RE: [Dan.Oscarsson@kiconsulting.se: Comments on NFSv4 rfc3010bis- 05 draft]

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From: Noveck, Dave (Dave.Noveck@netapp.com)
Date: 01/27/03-08:20:51 AM Z


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From: "Noveck, Dave" <Dave.Noveck@netapp.com>
Subject: RE: [Dan.Oscarsson@kiconsulting.se: Comments on NFSv4 rfc3010bis- 05 draft] 
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 06:20:51 -0800

I'm OK with C *provisionally*.  Let me explain.  I think
one of the problems that we have had in this area is that
we are too quick to agree to some of this stuff, before we
understand the full implications.

I believe this what happened when the stringprep went in.  
You can argue (endlessly) whether this was a good idea or not
but I think it is clear that we did not really understand
the implications.  I think the reason was that most of us
find this stuff really complicated and unpleasant and we'd
rather just get it out of the way go on to talk about something 
else.

Let's not repeat our mistake and settle on something until 
we have done enough implementation work to be sure that we
are really OK with the implications in actual filesystems.

So one question that we need to examine is our old friend
linktext4.  Are we saying that a server MUST reject creation
of a symlink if it doesn't obey the rules of normalization 
form C, and if so, with what error?  If not, are we saying
that we should normalize to form C on readlink.  And of course
there is the issue of those existing symlinks on existing
filesystems, even those that are encoded in UTF-8.  If they
don't match form C, should we fail (what error), normalize to
C, or just the return the damn data?  Enquiring minds want to
know.



-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Rees [mailto:rees@umich.edu]
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 9:02 AM
To: nfsv4-wg@sunroof.eng.sun.com
Subject: Re: [Dan.Oscarsson@kiconsulting.se: Comments on NFSv4
rfc3010bis-05 draft] 


Form C sounds right to me.  Is there free sample normalization code
available somewhere?  How about for the other forms?


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