DOCUMENT:Q123878 31-JUL-2001 [sms] TITLE :Orphan Machine Inventory, Ghost Sites, and Domains PRODUCT :Microsoft Systems Management Server PROD/VER:winnt:1.0,1.1 OPER/SYS: KEYWORDS:kbnetwork kbDatabase kbInventory kbHMan smsinv smsdatabase smshierman ====================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information in this article applies to: - Microsoft Systems Management Server versions 1.0, 1.1 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SYMPTOMS ======== When you follow the process for adding or removing a domain or site from a Systems Management Server Primary Site, you may see warnings indicating that sites, addresses, or machines are inconsistent with the database. CAUSE ===== The following situations can cause these messages: - A client machine is moved from one primary site database to another primary site database. When this happens the "losing" site database is not informed. This constitutes an "orphan" machine, and since the possibility exists that the entire domain was moved to a new site, a warning may be issued. If you do not want the machine movement, you (as the administrator), can increase the FalseLogonThreshold parameter in the registry. Movement from a secondary site to a parent site does not cause a problem because the existing machine inventory is updated with a new site code/domain name. - A child site detaches or is otherwise removed (secondary site) from the current site. When this happens the machine inventory is left behind. This is similar to the following situation. - One or more of the current site's domains are removed using the Site Properties dialog. When this happens the machine inventory is left behind. Because the machine inventory is keyed to the Site/Domain combination, a warning appears when this combination is no longer valid. - Sites exist in the database which are not addressable (no sender address has been created). Also, when a site detaches, the parent's address to the child is automatically removed, but the inventory remains. RESOLUTION ========== To correct the database and prevent these message pop-ups, use a query to bring up a list of candidate machines to be manually deleted. The query dialog can be used to specify a particular site code, domain name, and so forth. In the case of site address messages, an address will need to be created, or the ghost site can be removed with the PREINST /DELSITE command (see the Admin documentation for the Site Hierarchy Manager command-line syntax). STATUS ====== Microsoft has confirmed this to be a problem in Systems Management Server versions 1.0 and 1.1. We are researching this problem and will post new information here in the Microsoft Knowledge Base as it becomes available. Additional query words: sms prodsms ====================================================================== Keywords : kbnetwork kbDatabase kbInventory kbHMan smsinv smsdatabase smshierman Technology : kbSMSSearch kbSMS100 kbSMS110 Version : winnt:1.0,1.1 ============================================================================= THE INFORMATION PROVIDED IN THE MICROSOFT KNOWLEDGE BASE IS PROVIDED "AS IS" WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND. MICROSOFT DISCLAIMS ALL WARRANTIES, EITHER EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. IN NO EVENT SHALL MICROSOFT CORPORATION OR ITS SUPPLIERS BE LIABLE FOR ANY DAMAGES WHATSOEVER INCLUDING DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, CONSEQUENTIAL, LOSS OF BUSINESS PROFITS OR SPECIAL DAMAGES, EVEN IF MICROSOFT CORPORATION OR ITS SUPPLIERS HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES. SOME STATES DO NOT ALLOW THE EXCLUSION OR LIMITATION OF LIABILITY FOR CONSEQUENTIAL OR INCIDENTAL DAMAGES SO THE FOREGOING LIMITATION MAY NOT APPLY. Copyright Microsoft Corporation 2001.